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Can I get away with drawing straight shota on Twitter? Big artists like Wamu get away with it just fine.

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6913316

>>6913304
Onee-loli or kys

>> No.6913324

>>6913304
Please post more I need to judge what will be acceptable for twitter. Also need yours or whoever drew that pics blogs so I can inspect their work to make sure its good to go.

>> No.6913340

most of the times it's alright, but somtimes they do ban them, for example lewdicrousart was banned not so long ago, so it'd be better if you create a spare account and link it somewhere in your bio

>> No.6913341
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Straight shota is for degenerate filth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12689081/Ohio-social-worker-Payton-Shires-24-accused-having-sex-13-year-old-boy-counseling-wedding-planning-fianc-new-mother-backed-DEATH-PENALTY-pedophiles.html

>> No.6913347

>>6913304
What you can get away with depends on how much you care about what others think of you. In this particular case, yes, you can get almost always get away with shota art since nobody cares about pedophilia when it's directed toward males (depressing, innit). You could also get away with loli if you're okay with alienating a lot of westerners and potentially getting some random trannies' knickers in a twist.

>> No.6913366

>>6913304
Zoomers hate this kind of content but consume it anyways

>> No.6913624

>>6913304
If theres big twitter artists doing it then obviously yes you fuckin retard.

If you saw smaller unknown artists drawing it on twitter, would you then think its ok? no questions asked?

That alone shows you will fail.

>> No.6913629

>>6913347
I always assumed people accept straight shota cause most faggots that fap to drawings are 5'3 simps anyway. Basically shota shaped but theyre 35. That and you can play the "amazon" card.

Loli dont fly cause its based off little girls who dont fap to older hentai cause it's generally not in their wiring.

>> No.6913773

>>6913341
I wish I was that boy

>> No.6914122

>>6913304
how about, not being a pedophile instead?

>> No.6914159

>>6914122
This. You people are disgusting and Jesus will kill you to death and send you to Hell.

>> No.6914164

>>6914122
How does liking older/bigger women make you a pedo?
I self-insert as the shota, anon.

>> No.6914166

>>6913304
Only if you're really good

>> No.6914170

>>6914164
I'm convinced guys like that poster are mentally ill and feel repulsed when presented male x female pairings

>> No.6914171

>>6913347
Nobody cares about pedophelia period. Terribly low sentances unless they murder all oround the world, loli/ahota allowed, still no ban on ai generated realistic CP, people straight up openly lnowing and protectinf family members or the clergy molesting their own kids let alone others.
People don't think about tHe ChIlDrEn

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>>6913304
Did you pussy out on the last one or what?

>> No.6914509

>>6914171
Lmao
Pedophiles get linched in my country
>loli/shota allowed
Not really, unless you're in japan (where you can still buy actual CP fairly easily, gee I wonder where all the lolifags get their references)
It's the reason why you can't import loli or shota trash to the US without postal services getting up your ass.
>people straight up openly lnowing and protectinf family members
It's genetic at that point.
>the clergy molesting their own kids let alone others.
Blame the corrupted church.

>> No.6914531

>>6914509
Loli/shota is either allowed or in a grey legal area in most countries with absolute shitholes like canada, france and the uk being some of the exceptions.
(((Coincidentally))), all of those countries have some of the most degenerate, extremely lefty government that actively defends those mentally ill freaks going into schools and talking kids into taking hormones and all that bullshit
Go figure

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>>6914509
>in japan (where you can still buy actual CP fairly easily
you read that on BBC didnt you?

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>>6913304
pedophilia was invented to immoralize bride grooming and enable feminism
most of anti-pedo propaganda was made with "little girl suffers harm from mentally deranged middle aged gremlin looking man" narrative
people were not trained enough to respond with violence towards boy cp
you are probably fine

>> No.6914788

>>6913304
Yeah, you'll be fine

>> No.6914814

>>6913304
Learn Japanese and post it on misskey.

>> No.6914845

>>6913304
>Big artists like Wamu get away with it just fine
He doesn't post it outside of discord retard

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>>6913304
>Can I get away with drawing straight shota on Twitter? Big artists like Wamu get away with it just fine.
Just make a baraag and post there, retard
But if you want to go the twitter route, then it depends on how the shota is drawn
>Hyper/hung shit
>Making them look more like femboys are act like adults
>Inflate their hips/asses
>All characters are 18+
>Making sure their face is not shown or they're obscured most of the time
If you prefer drawing them more on model or with small dicks then kiss your account goodbye

>> No.6915152

>>6913304
I like that pic a lot. The kid has the perfect shota hairstyle where he's cute but also boyish. That's what I like for self-insert. Full dosclosure, that's not cope because I like /ss/ for self-insert puposes but I'll fully disclose that I love lolis as well for out-of-self--insertion purposes.

>> No.6915189

>>6913304
God, I love that blondie, the way the ponytail goes through the cap, the tight security uniform and how the black and white contrasts. And that adorable smug and blush are just priceless.
I fucking love cute blondies so much.

>> No.6915219

>>6913304
Holy shit, talk about only having one single piece of appealing art in your whole profile. If that artist drew more sudbued, cute /ss/ pics like that instead of typical coomer slobbering hypercock bullshit, he'd be worth following.

>> No.6915256

>>6914845
And it doesn't matter because his huge following of 300,000 on Twitter and Patreon will leak it anyways.

>> No.6915260

>>6913304
You can draw gay shota and say it's femboys and you'll get away with it
people don't even think about shotacon

>> No.6915263

>>6915256
Irrelevant.
He's not "getting away" with posting shota on twitter because he doesn't post it on twitter.
Wonder where he's been the past couple of months
Guess he's focusing on his sfw shit for now
https://twitter.com/saruwash

>> No.6915287

>>6915263
>He's not "getting away" with posting shota on twitter because he doesn't post it on twitter.
Doesn't matter to Twitterfags, they gunned for Ploxy's ass because he had a Baraag account.

>> No.6915301

>>6915287
Yeah but that doesn't matter at all if you just dont acknowledge the troons. They just move on to someone that will react.
Only thing to worry about it not getting your accounts banned

>> No.6915316

>>6913304
Pretend you're japanese

>> No.6915957

>>6913304
sauce? also, it depends. if you do stuff like this you can likely get away with it because nothing explicit. anything else and you better be a jap, cuz all western artists who break rules get caught. japs dont, likely because they only type words in their hieroglyphic talk instead and no one on woke twitter can find them on account of english only retardation

>> No.6919122

>>6913304
i get away with it just fine so far

>> No.6919135

>>6914509
Tourist, the person

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6919148

>>6913304
Pretty funny how you can have a thread like this with overall reasonable discussion at the current state of /ic/. Were OP talking about drawing lolicon on Twitter and you'd have the whole puritan squad storming in to derail the thread until it gets nuked to oblivion, as I've seen this happen before.
What gives?

>> No.6919151

>>6914509
lurk more

>> No.6919174

>>6919148
I love it when disgusting pedophiles try to make themselves out as victims and some kind of oppressed minority.

The reason is that lolicon is just digusting, it's consumed by disgusting incels like you. The supposed submissive party is a signficantly vulnerable group and the people consuming lolicon are inserting themselves either as someone literally molesting a fucking little girl or just jacking off to a pinup of a little girl, again a much more vulnerable party than a boy. None of which is true for SS. In SS people are always inserting as the boy (inherently not pedophilic, since the attraction is towards the woman) or they arent self inserting at all.

Also literally EVERY 12 year old boy has at some point fantasized about banging the hot teacher or something, and literally ZERO 12 year old girls have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo incel like you. Yet you insist that a hot girl banging a boy is the same as a little girl being molested by a subhuman like you.

I could go on and on about why you are subhuman but understanding why lolicon is infintely worse is reliant on being an actual functional human being and not an antisocial friendless incel porn addict.

>> No.6919175

>6919174
0/10 apply yourself

>> No.6919179

>>6919174
its kinda absurd that a person would need all his explained to them. like he actually needs an explanation as to why a kid fucking his hot teacher is different than a little girl being molested. genuinely shudder to imagine what kind of weird chomo creature you are responding to

>> No.6919183

>>6915263
>he's going the game dev route
Wamus gonna hit the wall really hard

>> No.6919186

>>6913304
He dont take commissions right?

>> No.6919204

>>6919174
>The reason is that lolicon is just disgusting, it's consumed by disgusting incels like you.
Ad hominem. Claim disregarded.
>The supposed submissive party is a significantly vulnerable group.
Female children are no more vulnerable than male children. Both of them are weak as crap compared to any adult, so this is an empty statement that offers no support to your argument. Claim disregarded.
>Every 12 y/o boy has fantasized about banging the hot teacher. Literally zero 12 year old girls have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo incel like you.
Ignoring the obvious bandwagon fallacy, you clearly have never observed teen girls if you think none of them ever fantasize about being possessed by significantly older men. (Translated "disgusting crusty pedo incel like you" as "older man" since that's the best I could interpret of your inane gibberish.) Claim disregarded.
>Yet you insist that a hot girl banging a boy is the same as a little girl being molested by a subhuman like you.
No, it's not "hot girl banging a boy," it's "an adult woman raping a child" which is equally evil as if the sexes were swapped. Don't you dare try to sugar-coat your position. We can see right through it.
>I could go on and on about why-ACK!
Honestly, I'd love to see what else you can pull out your rot pocket. Be my guest.

>> No.6919207

>>6919174
What a deluded faggot. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
Young girls do have crushes on older guys, I used to hear them talk about it during school referring the younger teachers. Goes to show how "socially adapted" you are. Also you talk as if women didn't consume straight shota content themselves. Are they self inserting as the boys, too?
Much of the popular lolicon art nowadays doesn't even mention molesting or raping, it's all about the girl dominating the other party or at the very least, consenting. Even the source of the term 'loli', Nabokov's Lolita, has this detail weaved in the definition. The "abusive" powerplay you mention isn't even mandatory and is also perfectly appliable to adult female characters as well.
Keep up with the ad hominem, try to make up for your lack of argument

>> No.6919210

>>6919204
>>6919207
I'm gonna be honest it sounds like you're about to cry

>> No.6919212

>>6919174
>Also literally EVERY 12 year old boy has at some point fantasized about banging the hot teacher or something, and literally ZERO 12 year old girls have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo incel like you. Yet you insist that a hot girl banging a boy is the same as a little girl being molested by a subhuman like you.
You've never been around roasties, they love having a rape kink

>> No.6919216

>>6919186
Wamu does take commissions but only in his super secret Patreon discord

>> No.6919226

>>6919210
I'm already crying with laughter at how weak his (her? xir?) defense is, and I didn't even get to consent politics since I forgot.

>> No.6919232

>>6919226
I accept your concession, gonna go work on comms now and fuck my gf after while you sit here and talk about why you being a pedophile incel permabeg is actually based.

>> No.6919237

>>6919232
You forgot "chud" and "scrote." Come on, you can do better.

>> No.6919288

>>6919174
this reads just as
>it's okay when I do it
disgusting pedo roastie

>> No.6919360

>>6913304
kinda. You might get shit from some people but they care a lot less about adult woman on young boy than adult male on young girl.

Just like real life.

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6919377

>>6919174
This you?

>> No.6919384

>>6919174
This just reads like you;re coping over the fact you're a disgusting piece of shit, is shouta/lolli as bad as CP? Of course not , it's just a drawing and no child is actually being hurt or exploited,but don't try and pretend like what you're trying to draw isn't weird or shame worthy.

>> No.6919498

>>6914122
Can you stop being anti-semite?

>> No.6919556

>>6919174
My ex used to tell me about this chubby nerd teacher she had a crush on in middle school and she was an evil fucking cunt to him. She would say sexual things to him in front of other students just to fucking torment the guy and bend over in front of him "to pick stuff up" when they were alone. She mostly did it just for laffs and to be a bitch, but she said she actually wanted him to fuck her (which he likely never would have because he seemed like a pretty straight-laced dude). Defended that too even when she was in her 30s and said he should have done it.
Which was confusing because she was also extremely anti-loli artwork. (Though it might have been because she knew I like that shit and she was a surprisingly jealous of random things.)

>> No.6919796

>>6919377
This mindset is popular among men, woman=good man=bad, is basically their mindset. If you ever ask these type of homos to explain why one is okay but the other is terrible they often just end up saying how terrible men are.

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>>6919377
>>6919796
SS good because you (a grown man) insert yourself as the shota, you more or less go back in time when you were young.
Wanting to fuck older women is as natural as taking a shit and starts around puberty for males. If anything and in principle, SS is the most natural non-fetish there is.
Almost every male wanted to fuck their hot female teachers or their friend's hot mums.
The focus of the sexual stimulation, is the woman, the shota is an avatar of sorts.
The size difference also plays a role.

Loli bad because the dynamics are different. You mostly self insert as the male.
Little girls are to be protected and the urge to protect them should be an innate feeling to every man, and if you want to sexually taint little girls, there is something wrong with you as a man, hence it is proof that you are a failure in the very sense of the word and someone who would commit sexual acts upon girls that aren't sexually mature, is simply not natural and should be kept away from society, because they are a liability to the safety of our daughters.
Good enough age for a girl is around 15-16, where they reach sexual maturity. Any lower than that, it's just not right.
This isn't a -philia thing either, it's just as objective as there are two genders.

In principle; are both morally reprehensible actions if done irl? Yes, but not so much for younger male+older woman. Because a male, can father children as soon as he hits puberty (roughly 12-14 years of age) and they start getting concrete sexual fantasies around that age. Most males --instinctually-- know what sex is even sooner, because in the end we're all animals that act upon instincts.

In the end, it's all fantasy and fiction, but i am just explaining why one is considered worse than the other from the perspective of a male.

tldr
Straight shota is self insert as the shota.
Loli is self insert as the adult male.
>inb4 this and that
No.

>> No.6919858

>>6919850
Based fucking post

>> No.6919864

>>6919377
>>6919384
You had multiple people explain why exactly this is bad and an explanation is more than your kind deserves.

The only thing about human society that we can agree on across all parts of the political spectrum is that pedophiles deserve beatings. 1st and 3rd worlders alike understand this and revel in it. Leftists, people on the right, everyone. Facist, commie, democrat, EVERYONE wants to see your kind destroyed. You are lucky that you're even allowed to live and indulge this disgusting paraphilia of yours in your little concrete box.

I really urge you to bring this subject up with someone in real life, preferably a man with a daughter, and show him that meme. I'm sure you'll be able to win him over. Or he'll pound your face into the pavement I dunno.

>> No.6919875

>>6919850
You're not wrong that young boys fantasize about having sex with older women, maybe a teacher or a pornstar, but that doesn't mean boys aren't also attracted to their female coleagues on class. Puberty hitting both girls and boys and all that.
On your own line of thought, biologically speaking, why do adult guys "suddenly" stop being attracted to young girls? That doesn't make any sense, as a couple years ago you felt attraction towards both them and adults, and now you are obliged to remove one of the groups from your preferences. Biology can't explain that since it's purely social stigma. You're forced into supressing a natural instinct that you had just a few years ago.
Also, why 15-16 for girls only? This sounds like an arbitrary number you made up. Any boy or girl is sexually mature the moment puberty hits.

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>>6919850
I could attempt to make a pro-loli argument, but it seems impossible to do in any honest way.

I can understand liking "petite" women or women that aren't maximally endowed , but they usually have a degree of sexual maturity that it makes the difference from loli.

The urge to sexual arousal should have a basis with intent in procreation then it become reasonable.

As a man, wanting to stick your dick in what very much resembles a pre-pubescent child (i.e. that hasn't reached sexual maturity hence the intent becomes recreational), can only be reasoned as being a way of coping with a lack of masculinity because you have to sexually dominate the most vulnerable thing you can find, simply for mere carnal and psychological pleasure.


In more than a decade lurking in this shithole, i still have yet to read a single reasonable pro-loli argument without logical fallacies and bad faith arguments
>>6919875
No.
>biologically speaking, why do adult guys "suddenly" stop being attracted to young girls?
They were never physically attracted to young girls in the first place and because fertility is extremely crucial to the propagation of genes.
Teenage crushes are purely emotional.

>it's social stigma.
No.
>Any boy or girl is sexually mature the moment puberty hits.
No.

>> No.6919885

>>6919850
I'm too afraid to explain this to people who I feel will just be super obtuse. Maybe I should reconsider doing some /ss/ stuff eventually...

>> No.6919893

>>6919884
How are my arguments bad faith? You couldn't refute a single thing I said
Why is a young boy wanting to have sex with an adult female the "correct behavior" compared to wanting to have sex with a girl of his age or younger? I had fantasies over both
A monosyllabic answer is not a counter argument

>> No.6919899

>>6919893
You're swaying off objectivity and trying to build a narrative about how
>its just social stigma
>why is this correct behavior
With the intent of implying that sexual attraction towards fertile/mature women is a "social construct", hence already low key trying to justify what you're arguing for, without making any actual sound and reasonable arguments, thus it is bad faith.
>but me
Can you observe and judge yourself objectively?
>it's not a counter argument
It is though when the other is arguing in bad faith.
Why do expect others to debate you when all you'll be doing is trying to "win the argument"?

All your "arguments" are automatically refuted if you're full of shit and can't be objective.

>> No.6919912

>>6919850
What even is morality anymore. For most of human history marriage to children has never been much to raise eyebrows at. For most of human history, shitting on people for people to masturbate to it would have been repulsive. Transforming little kids' bodies would have been lynchworthy. Children being addicted to pornography and being handed devices that let them find it easily, or drawing porn of animals would have outraged parents. Gays would have been murdered on sight if they tried to do the shit they do at their parades.
And I'm supposed to think wanting a relationship with a little girl is suddenly immoral when society doesn't even actually care about morality? Ridiculous.

>> No.6919913

>>6919912
>uhhh.... internet bad therefore a pasty incel freak like me should molest your 8 year old daughter

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>>6919912
>And I'm supposed to think wanting a relationship with a little girl is suddenly immoral
this has to be a troll post.

>> No.6919923

>>6919899
You're the one appealing to fallacies, retard. You're trying to discard reasonable arguments with moralism.
You're saying your 10 year old self didn't feel any sort of attraction to your 10 year old colleagues, therefore, anyone who did feel is wrong.
My argument stands: current adult males who might have been attracted to a coeval of their young selves at some point of their lives and are forced to let go of said feeling due to social pressure

>> No.6919929

>>6919923
A 10 year old boy having a crush on a 10 year old girl is different than a pasty disgusting incel wanting to molest a 10 year old girl.

10 year olds seldom even feel sexual attraction, it's as innocent as it gets at that age. And you, an actual deranged freak, want to say that your porn-addiction borne lust for little girls is the same as a kid having a crush on another kid.

This is why you're an incel unironically. You are a failure of a man in the most abject sense.

>> No.6919933

>muh self-insert as shota
Sounds like mommy issues and low test to me
>not wanting to pin the woman down and fuck her silly
come on now

>> No.6919935

>>6919929
Never once I mentioned molesting anyone, this started as a conversation about works of fiction that you kept bringing to the real world post after post. I stated where the attraction to young girls might come from and that's it, I never encouraged acting upon it
You're just a hypocrite piece of shit that can't even defend his points without appealing to insults every couple of lines and still tries to have the whole thread approving of your blatant double standards
And you use reddit's spacing

>> No.6919939

>>6919933
the latter is not mutually exclusive with being a shota

>> No.6919940

>>6919935
I can call you out for being a pussyfree virgin who will die alone while also explaining why you are morally and logically abhorrent which is what I've done. If someone says "the sky is blue, fucker" that doesn't mean the sky is purple because he called you a mean word.

Also I find it humorous that someone who literally wants to molest people's children is so thin skinned and weak lmao.

"waaah waaah the internet people are calling me mean things, i just want to permanently traumatize and destroy somebody's 10 year old daughter its no big deal waah why do people have this double standard!!! ;_______:"
t. you and the other pedos ITT

>> No.6919941

>>6919940
>Also I find it humorous that someone who literally wants to molest people's children is so thin skinned and weak lmao.
crocodile tears. also actually it isnt at all surprising that the person who chooses little girls as the object of his sexual attraction is a spineless worm.

>> No.6919943

>>6919939
It's rare, tho. Otherwise it would be normal guy and amazoness of sorts.

>> No.6919944

>shotachads
>want to fuck a hot mature woman
>lolivirgins
>want to molest little girls

how is this even an argument you fucktards

>> No.6919945

>>6919940
>explaining (...) and logically
Oh you sure did. Your monosyllabes were packed with reasoning
If you want to take the conversation to this tone, how can you even ask for no "bad faith arguments"? You failed to give a proper answer so all you have left is throwing names. Help yourself

>> No.6919946

shota is fine, only loli is forbidden. people post shota porn her all the time and the mods do nothing

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6919923
>explaining things as unbiased as possible and based on nature
>"ur doing fallacies. ME like little girls, what now? no argument? lmao checkmate. morals bad. emotional attraction = physical attraction. double checkmate bigot. Liking sexual mature women is a social structure! triple checkmate!"
Told you, no point in arguing with these irrational porn addicts, they just want to validate their fetish and go as far as questioning nature.

>> No.6919950

>6919945
>does nothing but bad faith arguments and is irrational
>DEBATE ME EVEN THOUGH I AM BEING IRRATIONAL
You can tell he got mentally stuck at 14

>> No.6919951

>>6919945
You have multiple posts ITT explaining why you and your ilk need to be exterminated:

>>6919850
>>6919174


Yet you just ignore every single point that is raised and say "uh you have no argument!! see guys? wanting to molest a little girl is totally normal and its the pedohaters that are crazy!!" The best part is that if you ever dare to let anyone in on your disgusting paraphilia you will be ostracized at best and beaten to near death at worst because pedohate is such a natural and universal thing. Good luck explaining how not wanting to rape little girls is a social construct to literally anyone in real life.

My absolute favorite is the larping as an innocent victim when you are the scum of all societies worldwide. "waah im such a victim.. its so unfair that people arent okay with me wanting to molest their kids ;____;". You literally want to destroy people's lives but the moment someone calls you a faggot or incel you become a sensitive little snowflake lmao.

>> No.6919952

>people dont want a pasty disgusting incel molesting their daughter... guys this is literally 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6919954

>>6919951
This was my original post >>6919148
And the answer you gave with >>6919174 was
>The reason is that lolicon is just digusting
Which sums up your overall points afterwards. Basically "rules for thee but not for me". Impeccable rhetoric indeed

>> No.6919955

>>6919954
Because your argument isn't "both are bad", your argument is "uhh actually me wanting to rape kids is the same".

If you were to condemn both then I guess I would agree with you since I'm neither into SS or lolicon. The thing is, you're just doing a not so subtle attempt to make molesting little girls sound normal because you are the scum of the earth.

also
>oh you insulted me at the start of your post therefore its okay to rape kids

I explained that SS implies attraction to women and that lolicon implies attraction to little girls, but you ignore this because you are indeed a braindead porn addicted degenerate. So did the other person ITT with a functioning brain. By the way he didn't even insult you and you STILL ignored his post because it doesn't fit your childrape agenda. Either way I'm happy that you will die alone in your little concrete box because you and all pedos are essentially lepers that everyone avoids at best.

Porn really fried your incel virgin brain.

>> No.6919957

>>6919954
I hope this works when your future cellmate decides to strangle you with your own shoelaces once you end up in jail btw.
Maybe you can bring up these same arguments to him while he's strangling you lmao. "noo you dont understand, bad things happen therefore there's nothing wrong with wanting to do bad things to children!!"

>> No.6919958

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YawI85U7QtA
Mandatory watching for pedocels

>> No.6919960
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>> No.6919965

>>6919955
Whatever, I'm not gonna stop drawing lolicon because of your tantums. I wanted to know why a thread about shotacon can exist with minimum shitposting but when it's about loli it lives for half an hour before getting pruned and your explanation was just a roundabout way of saying "I like loli less than ss therefore you can't have a thread"

>> No.6919968
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6919968

>sees thread about ss art
>aw sweet
>Opens thread
>post after post discussion about lolicon
Man.

>> No.6919969

I'm just amazed you faggots keep yelling at each other. stop bein mad over pictures on the internet. also anyone using incel unironically can be automatically disregarded.

>> No.6919970

>>6919965
>"I like loli less than ss therefore you can't have a thread"
That is exactly right. And you will continue toiling in obscurity where you belong, until somebody doxxes you and makes sure everyone in your life is aware that you're a pedophile.

>> No.6919974
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>>6919954
Yo, remember when i explained things, basing my statements and observations on natural proceedings of why the human apes seek out fertile women to propagate the species and that is why girls who aren't sexually mature cannot be considered for sexual acts by a sane individual because sex at its core, radically even; is the act of which one spreads his genes, therefore the choice of wanting to have sex is seeded in the instinct of wanting to pass on his genes but you were all like "liking fertile women is a social construct", therefore you tried to argue against facts and objective observation that no sane and honest individual would argue against with themselves as the focus of the argument, merely because you don't feel heckin valid about your fetish not being as normalized as you'd like and seeing anyone that doesn't validate it as an instant enemy that must be dealt with with dishonesty as long as you can win the argument?

Like, my dearest ****fag, i don't give a shit if you like loli, i was just explaining shit.

>> No.6919978

>>6919965
that anon (justifiedly) wants you dead, but the other guy calmly explained why your fetish is a crime against humanity and you ignored him too. you're just a seething emotionally fragile pedocel kek

>> No.6919980

>6919970
nta but keep malding about drawings

>> No.6919981

>>6919980
Uhhhh I'd rather be "malding" than doxxed and outed as a pedophile which is what will happen to you and everyone of your ilk eventually.

>> No.6919983

>>6919981
you're just fishing for (You)s and samefagging, keep at it tho.

>> No.6919985

>you must be mad at drawings
ngl kinda cringe

would this work on real people?
>"NO TYRONE STOP RAPING ME ITS JUST DRAWING Y U MAD AND SEETHIN-- GLUG GLUG GLUG"
well honestly, i think i might have described your other fetish

>> No.6919990
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6919990

I mean, you're the one projecting your gay bbc rape fetish and can't differentiate drawings from real life.

>> No.6920031

>>6919850
Least schizo pedo

>> No.6920169

>>6913304
Ss is pure fantasy. Women dont actualy rape little boys by offering to let them fuck. They rape by abusing power imbalances of caregiver relationships and doing humiliating penis inspections and anal probing.

>> No.6920179

>>6919174
>Also literally EVERY 12 year old girl has at some point fantasized about being banged by the hot teacher or something, and literally ZERO 12 year old boys have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo roastie like you. Yet you insist that a hot guy banging a girl is the same as a little boy being molested by a subhuman like you.

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>>6920179
>anon tries inverting the roles
>ends up not making any sense
>only shows that he doesn't know how female attraction works
>he doesn't know that 12 year old girls are literally repulsed by anyone that even breathes and isn't their crush
tbqh fampai, i doubt that even if pedophilia was legalized, you'd manage to get a gf

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6920487

Sage and delete this pedophile thread, janitor.

>> No.6920489
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Deranged thread

>> No.6920494

>>6919174
>disgusting pedophiles try to make themselves out as victims and some kind of oppressed minority.
why is this extremely common? They turn into fedoras the minute you suggest their shit is fucked up.

>> No.6920497

>>6920489
Why are you posting a pic of the average loli shitter?

>> No.6920505

>>6920497
that makes no sense at all. all troons are lefties and lefties are the ones who seethe the most over loli

>> No.6920600

>>6914509
You can buy the Made in Abyss manga at bookstores in the US and on Amazon

>> No.6920640

>>6919174
>None of which is true for SS. In SS people are always inserting as the boy (inherently not pedophilic

Absolute delusional cope.

>> No.6920642

>>6919864
Why is it that leftist retards always, without fail, bring up some variation of "tell this to someone IRL and he'd knock your lights out, heh heh" as if that does anything but weaken their arguments? They really are incapable of formulating anything but emotional drivel.

>> No.6920695

>>6919377
You know, I find this image particularly endearing in a workaround way, as well find this whole argument about loli vs shota to be quite silly.

I take that men are more laid back and welcoming about cases of sexual abuse from adult women to underage boys, I can hear a lot of people saying
>where were these freak women when I was his age?!
But then they are presented with the opposite scenario and they are filled with this unyielding disgust and even anger, wholly rejecting the idea underage girls cant be romantically/sexually involved with adult men.

And I think this isnt so morally wrong coming from men because we've built a world with this mentality being part of our human nature. It's a matter of millennia-long history of human behavior that has shaped us to believe female lust is beautiful, and male lust is savage; our ability to relate also comes into play when shaping this mindset. Even if you try to go against it, it is still sorta there within you.
I also think this doesnt quite apply to women the same way, as their nature works differently than ours and on top of finding men lust towards children beyond inacceptable, they find it equally wrong for women to lust over children due to their natural motherliness being a mayor pillar on their nature.

Also, whenever I see this image, I picture two scenarios
>A father of a boy seeing his child being teased by a woman and telling his child that it's completely okay, even if it isnt.
>A father of a girl seeing his child being teased by a man and the father running at 300km/h to utterly decimate the man with his bare hands.
It's kind of sweet to feel such a fierce sense protection from fathers when it comes to this kind of scenarios.

>> No.6920697

NAMBLA thread.

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>>6920695
>also
Considering this is /ic/, a place nobody likes to read and would rather make strawmen of arguments regardless of their nature for the sake of winning an internet fight. I will state:
>The aforementioned post is merely a comment on human psychology on the topic of children-adult relationships and how gender nature can affect our judgement on certain scenarios
>I do not consume, nor condone loli/shota* works in any way unless it's not inherently sexual in any capacity
>*despite the aforementioned, I dont find any particular issues with straight shota
>CP is absolutely terrible, naturally, but I dont think loli/shota is CP.
>Liking loli/shota works make you a weirdo at most, but I personally dont care because it's all fiction
>If you take this fantasy out of the realm of fiction and lust over real children, you are a pedophile and deserve to rot in a cell for the rest of your life
>If you take this fantasy out of the realm of fiction and lose your shit over people liking loli/shota, you are also a pedophile and deserve to rot in a cell of the rest of your life.

>> No.6921338

>>6914258
I genuinely don't understand the thought process behind making repeat threads. Do they even participate in the threads they make?

>> No.6921475

>>6919174
>>6919204
>>6919207
>>6919288
>>6919377
>>6919864
>>6920642
>>6919951
>>6919954
>>6919955
>>6920201
>>6920494
>>6920640
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism

>> No.6921520

>>6919796
it's different because men and women are not the same, why is that hard to understand
those two situations are not equivalent

>> No.6921590

>>6920497
Pedo trannies projecting.

>> No.6921672

>>6919174
>>6919179
>and literally ZERO 12 year old girls have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo incel like you.
Nice try normalfag. Nine year old girls record themselves stripping and post it on the internet.
>>6919850
>SS good because you (a grown man) insert yourself as the shota, you more or less go back in time when you were young.
>Loli bad because the dynamics are different. You mostly self insert as the male.
They're both fetishes retard. There's no moral judgment to it.
>Because a male, can father children as soon as he hits puberty (roughly 12-14 years of age) and they start getting concrete sexual fantasies around that age.
A 12 year old boy getting a woman pregnant is a bad idea.
>>6919941
Sexual attraction isn't a choice retard.

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>>6919183
Ironic because that's how Noill fell into irrelevancy as well. Better to fade away than getting cancelled by Twitter trannies, I suppose.

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>>6921672
>another one of those posts
No.

>> No.6921709

>>6913347
Getting away with it in this case just means not getting banned, I dont care if it alienates people

>> No.6921711

>>6919174
Imagine being against loli shota on 4chan
everything goes in art

>> No.6922375

>>6921672
>Nine year old girls record themselves stripping and post it on the internet.
You talk as if that shit is okay.
>>6921711
4chan isn't a monolith. I've been on this site for over ten years, and the cognitive dissonance on display seeing you fags normalize pedophilia. One minute it isn't, then the next you claim it's a safe haven for actual pedos and grooming victims to cope. Like you're terrified to find out what's been buried between the gaps for it would shake your fucking worldview apart.

>> No.6922380

>>6922375
ok tourist

>> No.6922442

>>6922380
OK pedo
>>6913340
It's going to get a lot more common.

>> No.6922458

>>6922442
aren't you busy clogging the FBI's tipping line with worthless accusations?

>> No.6922473

Let me just blow everybody's minds real quick.

Women don't just coerce boys into having sex with them, they coerce girls into having sex with them too! So now what? Is milf x loli still wrong because it contains loli or is it perfectly okay because it's being done by a woman?

Can a woman not manipulate kids into doing things that they don't want to? Why does morality suddenly change when it's a woman when coercion, manipulation, abusing one's position of power in a relationship is not gender exclusive.

Why do we assume that all little boys enjoy sex? Has anyone actually considered that not every little boy fantasies about sex and may not even like it? Does one boy enjoying sex with a teacher justify other cases where the boy was coerced into sex and didn't enjoy it?

You guys are so caught up in your fetishization of straight shota you don't even realize that not every little boy is going to want sex, and your romanticized idea of the woman in question being hot is clouding your judgement. That's a fantasy, you have this idealization in your head where the boy must be enjoying it because you find the women attractive, when it doesn't consider the feelings of the child at all because you're too busy fantasizing over fucking the woman.

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>>6922473
Doesn't matter, Wamudraws is still going to have 300k followers.

>> No.6922491

>>6922480
I'm a loli and straight shota enjoyer so that's fine by me. I'm for both. I'm just calling out the hypocrisy I'm seeing.

>> No.6922508

>>6922473
>says this much and days nothing
You're forgetting the obvious that some don't care. Most will see either as pedophilia, regardless. Sure, it can be entertaining as fuck to see these factions go after each other, but for the rest? They're watching in preparation to start shooting fish in the barrel, figuratively speaking.

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>>6919174
>EVERY 12 year old boy has at some point fantasized about banging the hot teacher or something, and literally ZERO 12 year old girls have ever fantasized about being near a disgusting crusty pedo incel
what about hot handsome man? do 12 year old girls fantasize them?

>> No.6922541

Yjk that glowniggers are swarming on this thread ever since op put the /ss/ word on his post

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6922709

>>6922528
I've seen tween go on about Jotoro Jostar. It's a safe bet hot guys are on their radar.

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>>6922473
Why does everyone insist that fiction has to be perfectly coherent with and judged upon how it can be irl+morality ONLY when it's to make an argument against Straight Shota? But
>loli cannot be bad because fiction, its not real drawings stop saying bad things
>straight shota bad because... uhm real life and stuff and drawings are just like real people
On pure sexual gratification, leaving out any morality and social rules; loli is objectively bad, because you are "sexually attracted" to the little girl, which makes no natural or biological sense, no matter what kind of mental gymnastics anyone comes up with. And that is the critical issue.

Whereas the shota in ss is only tool to visually contrast the woman first and foremost. It is never about the shota himself.
You could have a midget or a small silhouette instead of a shota and it would change nothing.
Straight Shota is merely functional and a tag of which the genre can be recognized and classified with.

The only mind that is blown is your own.
What a god awful bait.

>> No.6923101

>>6923081
don't be disingenous, if straight shota wasn't about the power play around the little boy it wouldn't be called straight shota, it'd be called plain hentai. it would be the same as saying white male x black female porn was all about the female being hot instead of the raceplay implication
I enjoy both ss and lolicon and the whole thing that makes ss stand out from normal porn is "being desired by a grown woman who's supposed to watch over you". put a midget on the boy's place and the dynamic is ruined, the grown woman is not an authority anymore
why are people trying pull a holier than thou on fucking 4chan

>> No.6923143
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6923143

There is a severe lack of ss in this thread. Let's change that.

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>>6919174
>>6920494
>and some kind of oppressed minority.
>why is this extremely common?

You braindead morons. You absolute clowns.

Most governments illegalize lolicon.
Most people wish death on pedophiles.
Most companies permanently ban or fire you for displaying lolicon imagery or for discussing lolicon positively.

Can you guess the amount of outrage if any of these things ever happened to gays in 2023?
The fact that you think lolicons aren't oppressed is very ironic proof that they are absolutely oppressed.

Guess what, if gays can't choose to be gay, THEN PEDOPHILES CAN'T CHOOSE TO BE PEDOPHILES.

>> No.6923236

>>6919850
So loli is okay if the guy is hot and its drawn by a woman for women?.

>> No.6923260

It really feels like im on /trash/ again

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>>6923260
>entire thread of how true shota enthusiasts are oppressed because they couldn't find one good westie artist drawing micropenis shit
May as well be moved there

>> No.6923265

>>6914509
>unless you’re in japan
I thought they finally banned real-life stuff like a decade ago

>> No.6923269

>>6923265
>anti makes random shit up to support his point
many such instances.

>> No.6923271

>>6923269
I was literally just asking a question

>> No.6923280

>>6923271
And I was agreeing with you.

>> No.6923281

>>6923260
Because OP is actually a /trash/nigger
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/EHghsNN6EBswHruncnBj4w/

>> No.6923283

>>6923281
/acrg/ is still a thing??
Thought those losers went back to making separate random threads after all the schizo spam.

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>>6913304
>Can I get away with drawing straight shota on Twitter?
Considering there was a retard incident with some toddlerfag, not always.
Yes, they already shared it on their baraag/pixiv, stupid retard share it on twitter afterwards and still melting down over that.

>> No.6923289

>>6913304
By "get away with it", do you mean not getting banned or not getting hatemobbed?
The former is possible by cropping your art and linking it elsewhere.
The latter is possible by shutting the fuck up and staying out of drama.

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>>6923101
>"ss is about being desired by a grown woman"
>"wmbf is about raceplay"
No.

Why are people baiting 24/7 on fucking 4chan?

>> No.6923299

>>6923081
>loli is objectively bad, because you are "sexually attracted" to the little girl, which makes no natural or biological sense, no matter what kind of mental gymnastics anyone comes up with.
objection, being attracted to children may help incentivize bonding with said children earlier than other specimen of your tribe, meaning you are "reserving" a mate before anyone else is interested in them

>> No.6923303
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>>6923299
>by being attracted to children, you are reserving a mate
Being attracted to children is not natural. therefore your argument fails on objectivity and natural law.
>it incentivizes bonding
In such a case, that would be called grooming if you're "bonding" with the intent of making the child your "mate".

>> No.6923304

>>6923209
The difference between homosexuals and pedophiles is the lack of consent when it comes to the second.

>> No.6923313

>>6923303
>Being attracted to children is not natural. therefore your argument fails on objectivity and natural law.
The onus would be on you to explain how being attracted to children is not natural, as a state of mind, by virtue of being tied to human biology, must be natural.
>In such a case, that would be called grooming if you're "bonding" with the intent of making the child your "mate".
Yes, evolutionarily, grooming was a way for males to secure their bloodline.
Thank you for proving my point that there is an evolutionary purpose to it.

>>6923304
There is no consent involved between drawings, which is what is being argued, right now.
If you think that pedophiles shouldn't have sex with children, at the very least have basic human decency of allowing them to jerk it to drawings.
Sexual expression was such a big thing in the gay movement, yet it is all lost when it comes to a sexual minority that is okay to shit on.

>> No.6923314

>>6923303
NTA, but I could think of several reasons why primitive caveman would evolutionarily opt for going the grooming route if that's the hill you want to die on.

>> No.6923330

>>6923295
that's quite the counter argument
>interracial porn is not about races
>age difference hentai is not about age difference

>> No.6923331

>>6923260
>>6923281
Would you rather have threads about AI and /beg/s whining about their lack of Twitter followers instead?

>> No.6923336
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6923336

/ic/ board officially belongs to pedophiles

>> No.6923342

>>6923336
>suddenly

>> No.6923377

>>6923286
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when baraag gets purged. Also, didn't this shit get banned off Pixiv? Or only the monetization of it?

>> No.6923380

>>6923377
>when baraag gets purged
I don't think you understand how this works.

>> No.6923389

>>6913304
>this fbi honeypot account lets people comment their illegal fantasies all the time, why not me
um.

>> No.6923390

>>6923380
>implying there is only one way to skin a cat

>> No.6923423

>>6923377
It just got harder to search. Only 3D cg got a decent hit, and even then only for a short time.

>> No.6923448

>>6923423
>shadowbanned
>monetization ban still in effect
>only did it after they got caught allowing users to distribute CP by shuffling it in with thousands of A.I. generated images
So, not much longer until they cave to pressure.

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>>6923313
>The onus would be on you to explain how being attracted to children is not natural, as a state of mind, by virtue of being tied to human biology, must be natural.
Good thing i already did, multiple times
>>6919974
>>6919884
>>6919850
>grooming was an evolutionary trait
My brother in Christ, did you evolve from faggots?
It's on you to explain how mating with a sexually not-mature human makes any biological sense.
>"UGA UGA LETS MAKE CHILDREN WITH FEMALE THAT CANNOT CARRY CHILD AND CANNOT FEED CHILD."
>"YES OOG MAKE SENSE"
It's been a decade and i'm still waiting.
>>6923314
cool
I also quite enjoy reading sci-fi
>>6923330
>porn that has interracial elements HAS to be about racial play
>porn that has age difference HAS to be about the age difference
This says more about you, than what you're trying to make an argument for.
>debate me
Nah.

Loli still makes no biological sense, but psychologically, someone who is into loli, most likely seeks (sexual) control/dominance over others.
This thread is proof of that; just look at how the lolitards have to damage control any negative opinions and NEVER manage to not lie and deceive.
Simply said;
If it's natural, you'd explain and base your statements on something everyone can agree on and that is based on natural law and not constant non-sequiturs and then expect to be seriously debated.

Loliniggers truly have brain rot, which proves my point that they are human failures.

>> No.6923471

>>6923465
autism

>> No.6923473

>>6923465
pedophobes are mentally ill

>> No.6923476
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6923476

>debate me
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT FUCKING AUTISTIC PEDOPHOBE
cope and seethe, trannies

>> No.6923481

>>6923465
>Good thing i already did, multiple times
No, you didn't. You explained how not being attracted to children is the default state of a human male, which is true.
But something being abnormal does not mean it isn't natural (developing skin cancer may be "natural", even if it's rare).
It just means that there was no evolutionary pressure to sift out the "pedo gene".

>It's on you to explain how mating with a sexually not-mature human makes any biological sense.
The vast majority of pedophiles (90%?) are not exclusive pedophiles, they are "primary pedophiles", meaning they are still attracted to adults, to some extend.
For non-exclusive pedophiles, this opens up a strategy to bond with a very young partner before anyone else can, and have sex with them up to and including adulthood.

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>>6923481
>more non-sequiturs
>"Just because shitting diamonds is abnormal doesn't mean it isn't natural. It just means there was no evolutionary pressure to eat coal and evolve our digestive systems to pressurized it for millennia, therefore trying to procreate with a child that cannot bear or nurture offspring is completely reasonable."
okay, this made me laugh

You're missing a critical point though;
Fetishes are about psychology more than raw physiology. Any sexual thing that deviates from the natural order, is a fetish.

You niggers jerk off and consume porn 24/7 but never question why you jerk off to what you do.
>no you didn't explain
>proceeds to say this: "You explained how not being attracted to children is the default state of a human male, which is true."
Are you illiterate or is your brain seriously made of cum?

>but pedophiles
Ok, how is that relevant to the current conversation?

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>>6919174
>All these seething (you)s from Pabloids
Every time. Does no one know how to ignore shit they don't like? Wouldn't this post look worse off if no one gave it replies?

Think, pedos, think. Use your fucking brain matter for once.

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6923509

>>6923506
>Think, pedos, think. Use your fucking brain matter for once.
It's literally leaking from their ears

>> No.6923521

>>6923495
>>more non-sequiturs
It's not a non-sequitur, at all.
Nature is not just "one group of traits that beats every other group".
Rather, you can near-infinitely divide the groups into smaller groups, each person carrying a set of genetics that wasn't selected for, since it was "just good enough" to get by.
A good, but broad example for that is "ADHD".
There exists a hypothesis that, humans with ADHD are likely carrying the remnants of the "hunter" gene, which served as an ecological niche for intense activities.
As humans turned towards farming, brains wired for extensive activities (routines, repetitive tasks) were selected for.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_versus_farmer_hypothesis

Does this mean that having ADHD now is abnormal?
Well, it's abnormal in that most humans don't have ADHD, but it's not abnormal in that it is part of the development of an ecological niche (and the inverse of, as we moved away from farming), meaning it's by all means still natural.

>Any sexual thing that deviates from the natural order, is a fetish.
You are confusing evolutionary fitness with "natural order". Natural order is just the absent of sapient intermeddling (humans, obviously).

>Are you illiterate or is your brain seriously made of cum?
Please read the next sentence.
>"But something being abnormal does not mean it isn't natural"

>>but pedophiles
I have no idea which part of the text you're referring to, here, considering you gave up after the second sentence.

>> No.6923528

>>6919875
Because the teenager is cancerous and unlikable bastards. You only accept it when you're that age because only a fool would think some non pedo adult would wanna fuck your ass, so by the time you're an mature adult yourself you see the world through their lens the same way. Thinking like this actively proves you never matured past 16. A real man wants mature responsible adults. I don't get off to "prime budding titties" I get off to a women that can carry my fucking offspring while I'm out at work.

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>>6923521
>Natural order is just the absent of sapient intermeddling
At least you googled that correctly.

How does your semantic mental gymnastic argue in favor of attempting to procreate with a sexually immature human, which also implies that cannot give birth to and nurture offspring therefore it doesn't fall into the natural order of things?
You gonna make me wait another decade?
>not a non-sequitur
Buncha claims that are irrelevant to the discussion.
Or do you have your own subjective definition that no one but you agrees on and we need to respect or else we're "anti and phobes" and that definition magically makes you correct without actually needing to make any arguments based on reality?

>I have no idea which part of the text you're referring to
Nigga, you can't even keep track of the garbage you post? fuck me
>considering you gave up after the second sentence
Nah, you just filtered yourself.

>> No.6923553

>>6923537
>How does your semantic mental gymnastic argue in favor of attempting to procreate with a sexually immature human, which also implies that cannot give birth to and nurture offspring therefore it doesn't fall into the natural order of things?
I've given the reason, already.
Most pedophiles are still attracted to adults, meaning that they're playing the "long game" of grooming and mating both pre-and-post-pubescent.

>Or do you have your own subjective definition
The most commonly used definition that is applicable just means "it happens in nature".
Pedophilia happens in nature, therfore it is natural.

>Nigga, you can't even keep track of the garbage you post? fuck me
You flat out ignored 3/4s of my post and put in quotation something that I didn't even say (ctrl+f "but pedophiles").

>> No.6923562

>>6923553
>Most pedophiles are still attracted to adults, meaning that they're playing the "long game" of grooming and mating both pre-and-post-pubescent.
Very good since this proves my previous statement correct
>>6923465
>"... but psychologically, someone who is into loli, most likely seeks (sexual) control/dominance over others."
Grooming is a form of control and manipulation that would mostly manifest in unsociable and dangerous individuals; and such individuals, you don't want to have hanging around your own kids, therefore they are a liability to society, as also previously stated.>>6919850
>Pedophilia happens in nature, therefore it is natural.
Cool, now prove your irrational claim.
Modern human behavior doesn't count as nature. Hypersexual and hyperviolent apes don't either.
Prove it to be the norm that makes the rule, not an exception.

>You flat out ignored 3/4s of my post
Which were irrelevant and not worth taking notice and you should have known this yourself, but you keep proving me right the more you keep doing it.

>> No.6923568

>>6923562
>Grooming is a form of control and manipulation that would mostly manifest in unsociable and dangerous individuals;
Anon, we are talking about evolution, here.
Rape and dominance are literally the name of the game, before modern human sensibilities came into play (which you would argue is not natural).
>Hypersexual and hyperviolent apes don't either.
...because?
>Prove it to be the norm that makes the rule, not an exception.
I am not saying that it's common, I am saying that it happens in nature.

>Which were irrelevant and not worth taking notice and you should have known this yourself,
No, not really.
Pedophiles being non-exclusive is central to my point, and I went on to explain how the evolutionary strategy may have worked, which is pretty much the entire topic of this thread chain.

>> No.6923572

>>6920713
I love that this, one of the few reasonable posts, gets ignored while the absolute brainlets are getting
all the attention. I have one disagreement, however, that either party deserves incarceration. No,they're
in desperate need of mental assistance which is unfortunately hard to obtain in most places. Seriously,
last time I tried going to a therapist the bitch took my cash then called social services afterwards. I'm
lucky those guys are so lazy or I'd be in a cell rn.

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>>6923568
>asked to prove his claims
>goes off on something else
>"no it happens, therefore the exception makes the rule"
Were you going to tell me about the Baboons, Anon?

lmao
>Pedophiles being non-exclusive is central to my point
Not mine.
>which is the topic
Nope.

Shit talk. Stop replying to me, Monkey.
>>6923572
That post is normie core fluff and lukewarm takes equivalent to a woman believing her own shit opinions are objective reality
>uuuuuhm i think
>uuuuhhhhm i believe
>proceeds to make a whole post justifying himself like some fucking politician a lá "pls don't cancel me"
Who the fuck does that except someone who doesn't even who what the fuck they're talking about but just talking for the sake of saying something.

It's all normie fluff therefore it got ignored even by the baiting shitposters because they knew they wouldn't get entertainment out of it

>> No.6923589

>>6923506
>>6923509
bumping your own replies?

>> No.6923593

>>6923587
>baiting shitposters
>you're not part of them

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>>6923589
>implying
yeah, anyone agreeing is the same person, Anon.
Go check under your furniture if they ayy lmaos have installed bugs that record you when you're masturbating.
The FBI is real btw
9/11 didn't happen
>>6923593
Unironically, no.
I am the trannies worst nightmare.

>> No.6923596

>>6923587
>>goes off on something else
I am not "going off on something else", I am literally directly answering points of your post.
Nor am I obligated to provide any proof, since you can't provide any proof that it isn't natural, which leaves us at an impasse.
I'd argue that any human psychological phenomenon shared by a significant part of the population is natural by default, but you'd object without providing an actual counter-argument, so I rest my case.
>>"no it happens, therefore the exception makes the rule"
I literally stated in the exact sentence you are falsely paraphrasing that we are not talking about commonality, then you go on to talk about commonality, anyway?
>Not mine.
Uhh, yes.
That's what a discussion is. I make an argument that you disagree with and vice versa.
Of course the point is not yours, silly.
>>which is the topic
>Nope.
It is totally on-topic, though? We literally argued about the evolutionary significance of pedophilia, before your brain shut that part of itself off and pretended that we didn't.

>> No.6923597

>>6923596
>still didn't prove anything
>DEBATE ME
Nah, pyw then i'll keep playing with you.

>> No.6923600

>>6923597
I don't particularly care about you.
I care about the pedophile who sees my posts as a strand of sanity in a world where they're openly mocked and shunned.

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>>6923600
okey this was epic

>> No.6923616

>>6923587
> ...equivalent to a woman believing her own shit opinions are objective reality
Ugh, don't remind me.
> It's all normie fluff therefore it got ignored even by the baiting shitposters because they knew they wouldn't get entertainment out of it
How are any of the shitposts here better? So far I've yet to see anything new outside the typical tribal warfare this discussion always yields. All we need now is a pedo that claims everyone else is brainwashed and an anti slinging death threats.

>> No.6923673

>>6923616
this and throw in that delta faggot pedo bitching how women drawing men is pedoshit for kicks in this /trash/ tier shitfest
my only takeaway from all this faggotry is that is that this autism should be locked behind other boards so we don't have to fucking deal with it

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>>6923572
>I love that this, one of the few reasonable posts, gets ignored while the absolute brainlets are getting
all the attention.
I think it's because of that, it's not entertaining as this whole """"discussion"""" is about throwing shit at each other instead of having a decent argument.
Take this guy >>/6923587 for instance, he has been slinging shit all over the thread but most likely skipped the post I made because it wasnt fun for him to poke... until you pointed it out and now he can shit on it for being boring, not for the arguments or the points stated, but because it's not fun. Im not even going to humor him because all he said is pretty much name-calling, ad hominem and response to tone, all at once.
The vast majority in this thread just want to win a dumb internet fight. It's pathetic.

>I have one disagreement, however, that either party deserves incarceration.
>No, they're in desperate need of mental assistance which is unfortunately hard to obtain in most places.
You know what? That's fair and I agree, I honestly never thought about that, before those people commit an actual crime, they could instead get the medical treatment they require and stop being potential threats. That said, once they got the crime done, Im not very sure any amount of medical assistance can help them get it over, I could be optimistic about *potential* criminals, but not *actual* criminals.

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>>6923759
That post wasn't reasonable, it was vapid and shallow and offered basically nothing but the poster's own brain dead opinions as if they mattered in the grand scheme of things instead of making an actual argument and arguing for something.
What did that post say?
>uuuuhm both are bad and people r mentally ill because oooeemmgee how can people like what i dont? fucking schizo strawman
>wow ic bad 4chan bad btw pls don't cancel me cp is terrible pls validate me
>proceeds to give more irrelevant opinions
>yoooo wtf why is everyone ignoring me wtf fucking shitposters stealing all the likes wtf i said the correct opinions™ wtf why are the shitflingers getting more (you)s than me WTF
>pls dont forget about me
That post oozes vapid cunt energy

Maybe you wanted a based? Maybe someone asking about your blog because you are soooo reasonable and intelligenter than the shitposters?
That's the impression of that post, hence why no one replied to it. It's intellectually more insulting that the usual bait and bad faith arguments the fags here do constantly.

>calling others pathetic
>while bitching about his post not getting any (you)s
My nigger, if shitflinging is all you see, you need to either gtfo back to twatter or lurk moar.

>> No.6923897

>>6919174
You're actually retarded. Eat a bullet

>> No.6923901

>>6921520
They are equivalent you absolute retarded faggot

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>>/6923842

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>>6923336
/ic/
/a/
/mlp/
/vp/
/jp/
sometimes /pol/
/b/ definitely
/fit/ (actual unironics)
/lgbt/ and /cm/ but they're the bad kind
/c/
/tv/ (apparently)

Really, most of the bigger or more interesting boards are full of pedophiles of varying degrees of irony. And there are people who think the pedos are the "infiltrators" and tourists.
No, nigger, this is a pedo site at heart.

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>>6923081
>>6923299
>>6923597
>claims pedophilia makes no natural or biological sense on account of sexual immaturity impeding child-birth
>anon counters by providing reasons why selecting a still immature mate would still make practical biological sense
>YOU CAN'T PROVE THEY DID THAT THOUGH
He doesn't need to. You're the one who made the hyperbolic claim that it made "no natural or biological sense", anon just showed that it does make sense in securing a genetic lineage. For whatever good that does either of you, considering how often psychopathic shit like rape shows up in the natural order and how the "critical issue" of this debate is apparently "My sexually related mental illness is more natural than yours."
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some gore to fap to.

>> No.6924233

>>6920201
I can attest to this as a biological female. I was actually surpirsed that men would actually fuck 95% of women (it's the other way around for us). I was actually completely taken aback that men just find vaginas and boobs inherently hot when we find pictures of dicks disgusting. This whole time before I turned 18 I thought men looked at me like I was a gross cootie having creature and they would only even consider having sex with girls who were a 10, so I never talked to boys out of fear.

>> No.6924261

>>6923901
you are ignoring reality of social fabric in favor of misguided delusional gender politics and you're the ONLY one suffering for it

men are not women
there's no reason society should arbitrarily treat them the same, and it thankfully never will

>> No.6924270

This entire thread makes me want to gas pedos

>> No.6924278

>>6924233
As an ugly bastard that got swarmed back in high school this confuses the hell out of me.

>> No.6924284

>>6924261
NTA but I couldn't give less of a crap about social fabric or gender politics. An adult taking sexual advantage of a child is evil, and the criminal being a woman doesn't make it any less evil.

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>>6923389
Wamu wouldn't do that, he's a pure-blooded /v/tard and /ic/ user.

>> No.6924364

>>6923331
>Whataboutism
Rent free bitch

>> No.6924371

>>6921338
OP is a /trash/fag seeking drama and is likely seething over his shithole general's inaction and the infested trolling.

>> No.6924372

>>6915287
>they gunned for Ploxy's ass because he had a Baraag account.
I doubt that's the full story, his pixiv has been around as long as he sexualized Diives dumb ocs.

>> No.6924378

>>6924270
Really, this thread single handedly make shotafags look like stupid assholes

>> No.6924393

>>6924270
this but replace pedos with anti-pedos
god, I wish I could gas all of them

>> No.6924441

>>6913304
I wish this happened to me when i was 10yo

>> No.6924445

>>6924441
Genuinely, what on earth is wrong with you that you'd fantasize about children being sexually assaulted? Creep.

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>> No.6924503

>>6924441
I was already having sexual thoughts at 10, so, this, unironically.

>> No.6924514

>>6919174
this post really mindbroke the local pedotroons lmao

>> No.6924596

>>6924514
NTA but its amazing how they're all coming out as actual pedophiles now, after years of denying any links between lolicon and CP, and bitching about "pedophobes" and shit.

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>>6924214
here we go agen
>natural order and radically condensing a concept because wanting to procreate with a fertile female that can give birth and nurture offspring is the only thing that has kept the species going is now hyperbolic
>anon made a bunch of non-sequiturs and hollows claims that cannot be proven correctly or to be true
>uuuuuuhm so therefore he is correct and don't need to prove anything because i choose to believe him because "securing genetic lineage"
>which is just a roundabout excuse for grooming and not an actual reasonable and natural proceeding
>anon claims it happens even in nature
>anon could have had an argument if he actually substantiated his clearly outlandish claim without attempting to use classic trickery
>anon did everything but prove his claims
>yooooo wtf you can't ask people to prove their claims wtf you think you're better than me wtf fucking anti hater puritan your fetish is not better wtf
>member rape tho?
holy lmao

Planning and manipulating decades ahead to secure a mate when they're sexually mature, is not something natural.
If anything, it is even more reason to not allow these type of individuals to partake into society or let them spread their genes, since their proceedings are akin to a leech. a parasite or a virus than an actual human being.
It's deceiving and an undesirable trait for social/tribal harmony, because if you want to bring psychological proceedings and reasons into the matter, you have to include what made all this psychological progress possible.
Even then, how does it make sense?
>uuuuuhm attraction to children is ok because when they're emotionally and mentally underdeveloped i can "bond" with them and when they're 18 i can fuck em"
Nigga, that's more fucked up than actually liking little girls and does indeed show what kind of individual you are if that shit makes any "good sense" to you.

>> No.6924648 [DELETED] 

>>6924642
>>natural order and radically condensing a concept because wanting to procreate with a fertile female that can give birth and nurture offspring is the only thing that has kept the species going is now hyperbolic
and this is where you reveal you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. death by childbirth in adolescence is insane compared to when you're a proper adult. the human body is not meant for pregnancy in the teenage years.
if you at least just admitted you're a pedo i could respect that, but trying to make naturalistic fallacies just makes you sound stupid and desperate.

pyw

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>>6924648
>being this much of an illiterate nigger
>being this much of nigger you go reporting the post
i win

>> No.6924680

>Jannies go deleting actual discussions that have very much to do with an artistic niche but highly off topic ai threads and outright spam are allowed to thrive and prosper
this confirms that aijeets are also lolipedos

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>>6913304
>Can I get away with
usual westoid moralfagging aside, what prevents you from drawing it???
if you want money for it, use pixiv or subscribestar
the end

if you want social acceptability, draw mainstream shit like thiccwithaQ or Baalbuddy
don't interact with twiiter wackos and just draw what you want, what's wring with you????

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>>6924709
>draw mainstream shit like *thiccwithaQ
*Also draws underage characters, and many extreme kinks, and thought they can slip past that after their failed gotcha on twitter

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Such a shame this catfish negro couldn't resist on making twitter drama

I still do enjoy his artstyle nonetheless.

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>>6924885
>>6924887
>pornfag goes off on drama and sides with the majority
>he literally has a whole gallery of genshit (who are all underage), but aged up
bruh, these people

>> No.6924967

>>6922473
Two words:
Self-insert
They don't want it happening to others. Just themselves. Real life examples are irrelevant because it's a fantasy. No one wants to see actual women rape little kids. In the fantasy world, we can pretend the psychological harms of having sex at a young age is null in. No one wants that to *actually* happen in real life, or they're a retarded faggot.

>> No.6924981

>>6924445
Wishing he was the ten year old and wishing he was the one fucking the ten year old is not the same
He is not attracted to his own self as a child, he's attracted to the older woman. What really matters is the direct object of attraction, not the associated aspects

>> No.6925013

>>6924514
>>6924596
deluded

>> No.6925030

>>6924372
He does make animations of loli characters like Kanna from Dragon Maid

>> No.6925041
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>>6924936
Better than all the cope directed towards pic related, coomers are retarded

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>>6924967
>No one wants to see actual women rape little kids.
there's a market for everything and a sicko for every fetish

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6925435

>>6924887
>>6924885
Whatever, the point being:
Nobody cares if you don't engage them.
Decide if you want to draw what you draw for rather have (((twitter clout))) faggots.
Obviously you sluts want both, both too bad, pic one.

>> No.6926407

>>6925435
The few alternatives that permit such content have either banned monetization of it (Pixiv) or about to be a casualty in escalating geopolitical tensions due to their affiliation with Russians and the alt-right (SubscribeStar). Muskrat has made it no secret he wants to paywall, if not outright ban, porn off X/Twitter. I do understand why anons would not want to take that risk or become an outcast.

>> No.6926441

Female preds coping ITT

>> No.6926442

>>6925030
And did he post it on Twitter?

>> No.6926523

>>6926442
No, he did post something about lolis and that riled up the normie audience he attracted with his Genshin animations. It was to be found sooner or later.

>> No.6926685

>>6923304
there is only lack of consent because "them" say one of the parties CANT consent, what if I say "gay people are mentally ill, so they can't consent, so gay sex is Always rape" ? then is the exact same thing

>> No.6926740

double standards

>> No.6926746

Gas the fucking pedos.

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>>6926407
then draw them for fun under a diff name
or accept your fate
you are not owed a living

>> No.6926959

>>6926407
Fanbox only banned ai shit cause too realistic, not drawn
>Russians and the alt-right (SubscribeStar)
> ban, porn off X/Twitter
None of this happened, and may never will, you sure are a fucking coward whilst wanting to draw kids gettign fucked.
Put up or shut the fuck up, pathetic paedo.

>> No.6927042

>>6925431
That's why we shouldn't conflate those who just wants to enjoy fictional ss and those faggots that say "lucky kid" on a news article

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>>6926407
>about to be a casualty in escalating geopolitical tensions due to their affiliation with Russians and the alt-right (SubscribeStar).
Wut

>> No.6927266

>>6927265
Anon is 3 years behind.
There hasn't been anyone bitching about SubscribeStar housing a few chuds for years.

If you want to put it in a different perspective, Inkplasm and other left adjacent artists are on there too.

>> No.6927277

>>6926523
To get suspended from Twitter, you actually have to post something that breaks their rules.
They don't have rule for off-site behavior, like Patreon does, or a bunch of artists would have been off the site long time ago.

It's either he posted lolishit on Twitter long time ago (maybe before they officially banned it), or he said stupid shit that was reportable.

>> No.6927279

>>6925041
>Better than all the cope directed towards pic related
The fanart hungry grifter or the non-offending pedo? Can't really tell, I don't think anyone give a shit about Nuclear.

>> No.6927319

>>6924680
Considering all the rape happening in Palestine was there any doubt?

It's in their blood to violate and destroy.