/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6920426
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

>>6920431
>my work
okay, but who are (you)? also, before you reply to me I will require this information about you
>your full name - name and surname
>the address of your current residence
>the address of your workplace
>your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
>your annual wage, before and after tax
>your license plate
>your place of birth
>the names of your parents
>your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.

>>6920426
Why is all beginner material so bad bros?
A beginner should focus on line art and figure drawing until hey can get consistent with drawing line art of the body in proportion.
And that requires simplifying the shames of the body in 2D planes and 3D object which you rotate in space.
Why do all beginner material spend like 1, max 2 lessons on that and jump the gun to shading, rendering, perspective, texture or whatever else bullshit?
The first several dozen hours, if not 50-100 hours of a beginner should be spend on just what I described, the rest comes after.

>>6920435
I am Anon, nice to meet you. Also, before you reply to me I will require this information about you
>your full name - name and surname
>the address of your current residence
>the address of your workplace
>your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
>your annual wage, before and after tax
>your license plate
>your place of birth
>the names of your parents
>your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.

stuff

Working in an image for my error messages on tools and websites, I'm not happy with the hole I think it isnt as readable as I think it is, feels more like a tar puddle? suggestions I was thinking of using a halftone maybe

>>6920469
Nice arms

How do I draw animal hair/fur?

Will I have to practice it separately for ink and pencil stuff?

>animal hair/fur
>on a fish
retarded?

>>6920509

>>6920431
this is the final whimper of the crab nodraw

Drawing anything that isn't a five minutes sketch is too hard

>>6920443
because fun. also it feels nice that you get your work featured. mines right page bottom left. still sort of waiting for some crit on it since I know there's loads of problems with it.

>>6920512
you havent provided any of the information, neither have you posted your work
WHY should i take you seriously right now?

face from reference
it felt surprisingly easily to do now that I can feel the form

>>6920443
because thats how long it takes to explain this stuff to someone? People just dont spend as much time as needed on those fundamentals

>>6920510
Holy shit, googley eye anon, you’re leveling up! Good job! Keep going! I think you need to spend more time on the whole figure with legs and feet, but this is a huge improvement over just portraits. I honestly think you’ve got the torso nailed. Obviously keep practicing it all, but I think these are good enough that grinding torsos doesn’t need to be a main focus or the bulk of your training. The one in the bottom right corner is especially great. You just need to study the limbs and attaching them to the entire pose with appealing rhythms. Your arms are basically there, it’s mostly the legs and feet that need work imo. I think your heads and faces are great, I love your style. Overall very impressive, anon. I can’t fucking wait to see full figure/character drawings from you. I’ve been a fan of yours for a while. Do you have a blog or archive or anything?

>>6920443
Because but everyone is as autistic as you?

Any tips on how to draw 3/4? they look "off" to me

>>6920544
No one actually tells them to spend 50-100 hours on just that though. They give you an assignment which you do in a couple of hours max, and next week its another lesson with something new that you need to practice on etc.

Even though you still cant draw in proportion.

Absolute bullshit.

>>6920561
Figure out mouths in 3/4th view. And dont be afraid of noses sticking out.

Begs just need to draw. And learn about concepts they may or may not yet understand.

>>6920567
It's because no one wants to spend a hundred hours grinding that stuff so they don't even bother telling them to.

>>6920426
playing with shadow shapes over simple yet characteristic forms

>>6917883
usually to classical music like shostakovich symphonies however lately ive been listening to eurobeat while drawing

>>6920597
>that penis
looks like a phaloplasty. no hate: I can't draw pen15s to save my life.

>>6920592
Sure, but that means no one learns how to draw.
The more errors they accumulate with shit they know but cant do properly, the more likely is for them to drop out.

Reilly is king

>>6920601
I had to google that. Hows my second attempt (from ref)

>>6920615
a lot better

>>6920609
Their loss, I don't give a shit what I draw, I just enjoy making marks on paper so spending hours grinding boxes or proportions doesn't bother me.

did some line weight exercises followed by finally trying to tackle hands. I feel I kinda get it, but not without a reference

>>6920622
Imo you should master the skeleton of the hand before trying to draw it from imagination but these are all very nice

>>6920629
pyw

>>6920629
thanks
did a tutorial based on the skeleton before this, but it was pretty brief to be fair. I'll go back and see what I can find, I wanted to draw skelly bros eventually anyways.

>>6920632

>>6920633
Sounds good. Bridgman is great for hand anatomy and even has a book called book of 100 hands so I recommend those if hands really interest you

>>6920648
imo you should master the skeleton of the forearm before trying to draw it from imagination but these are all very nice

is there any shortcut to improve technique or just drawing every day already helps?
im awful at doing stuff with my hands

>>6920707
Why the passive aggressive response?

>>6920593
>simple yet characteristic forms
kek everytime

also me like, very smooth. Can you post some finished drawings? I want to see how well it maintains the fluidity

i really like kazuma kaneko art, how is he able to express so much with so few lines?
he's able to show folds so easily

>>6920426
Oh cool, that anon who helped show me how to improve the Maria Amino pic I drew (and still gotta redraw) was featured in this.

So anyway, what I did today...and boy does it look bad.

Admittedly, my shoulder was acting up pretty badly so I was in pain and wasn't really in the mood to draw, but I am just unsure why it looks like a symbol drawing so much? Like I can't really put my finger on why it looks so flat despite my attempt to give it form?

The only solace I have is I couldn't have drawn something like this a month ago, but I still dunno how to give my pictures more depth, though maybe if I feel okay tomorrow I may figure it out, I am thinking of doing some skull studies soon to try and make something with more form.

>>6920593
the eternal sketchlet

Anyone got a good resource or video or image infographic for drawing like really nice and expressive boobers and titties? I feel like I'm kind of weak on it.

>>6920759
>>6912839
9 more days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofZ78uxlZE0

>Autistic, ADHD
>Have never been good at hand writing no matter how much I've tried.
>Tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and gave up immediately and couldn't figure out the UI
>Same thing happened with gamemaker
>Can't figure out basic trigonometry
>Essential tremors fucks up everything I try doing
Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Is there really any hope for me? I'm also starting at the age of 24. Am I just refusing to accept reality?

I'm literally just sitting here watching as everyone improves but I can't even start.

>>6920734
>I am just unsure why it looks like a symbol drawing so much? Like I can't really put my finger on why it looks so flat despite my attempt to give it form?
Did you draw from reference? It's okay to draw from imagination, but the only way to improve is by drawing from observation. It's the same as with reading books and listening to lectures: you only grow with the input of information

>>6920796
bro fuck off you vampire, stop trolling for interaction.

Nobody interact with this anon he's an evil little retard

>>6920796
Stop copy pasta-ing your bullshit. Hidden. Goodbye. Thanks to you I've improved my filters. Yes, you are legitimately too retarded to be an artist.

>>6920811
one day, when you're older, you will see how embarrassing this is.

>>6920796
shut up howie

>>6920797
Right, so basically I ain't ready to draw stuff like this on my own quite yet.

Sure my ability to do so is better than it was...but not by much. I'll try drawing a skull again, this is a skull I drew a while back late september.

apparently someone felt it was a symbol drawing but I dunno. The next one will look better hopefully.

>>6920811
Couldn't you have picked an actually good artist to copy?

>>6920788
pyw crab

>>6920532
Fixed it up a bit. Want to make some lewdbux but It's going to take more training than I thought

>>6920813
As someone older, enjoy your deadbedroom, americans are such puritants kek.

>>6920788
PYW, jealous crab.

I know the picture quality is awful but I won't do anything to fix it

>>6920796
>Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist?
Yes, but not for any of the above reasons.

>>6920817
what is wrong with legoman?

>>6920844
NTA but looks like super generic high beg deviantart kind of slop

>>6920847
the zero appeal gang strikes again

>>6920847
his fundamentals are pretty solid and his style is very recognizable, there is nothing generic about him at all

>>6920851
Go to rule 34 paheal and you'll see ten thousand accounts doing this exact kind of art.

>>6920844
>>6920854
It's short sighted. We're currently approaching the end of the hypersexual pot-modern era of aesthetics. You'll want to study something with subtlety and atmosphere if you want longevity.

>>6920816
hey anon, another anon here but just keep drawing. I'm not the best either, but if you keep going you'll be alright. The reason someone thought it showed you being stuck in symbol-drawing-mode is because you're not really looking at your subject. I've pointed out some "landmarks" or key things that you can look at to check your drawing vs your subject.
>perspective alignment
>envelope
>form vs flat shapes

>>6920856
>We're currently approaching the end of the hypersexual pot-modern era of aesthetics
based on what exactly?

>>6920865
process

>>6920864
Intuitions induced by observations.

>>6920869
>observations
which?

>>6920872
Trends in the erotic art space. Why are you asking so many questions? You don't feel the tremors?

>>6920874
Not all of us are blessed with average intelligence, anon.

>>6920874
>trends
which ones? I'm not even saying your wrong, and I would appreciate a less sexual internet, you're just being very non-specific for whatever reason.

>>6920877
>>6920875
Trends towards the result I've already described. I've told you it's an intuition already, I can't be any more precise than this. Just know that one day the daily life you take for granted will come to an end.

>>6920863
not him but i'm also someone who’s struggling with skulls and this helps for sure

>>6920856
>>6920864
whoa such deep thoughts we got an artist philosopher here

>>6920896
They're not deep thoughts at all. You've misunderstood my posts if you think that.

>>6920888
>I've told you it's an intuition already
yes
>induced by observations
which you will not go into for some reason.

>>6920896

>>6920875

>>6920901
I observed trends in the art community and was granted this intuition. What are you confused about?

Sup beg, today i was lazy. The figure is called DOOHINKUS. I will see how hard it will be to move it around tomorrow.

>>6920835
>>6920830
be careful anon, finishing your shit is a skill on its own, dont do just rough sketches
>>6920811
technically speaking there is nothing to crab, its perfect down to the line weight. but the way the lines are... it is all so stiff. it is like you traced 3D models. Are you using stabilizer? That is probably what is giving it so robot like feel
>>6920728
he is showing form via values. Just three values and it makes pretty detailed figure with form and drapery
>>6920717
the more you draw the better the hand-eye-brain coordination will get. no need to train it separately. as beg focus most on accuracy and drawing from reference
>>6920648
nice
>>6920622
i kneel
>>6920561
you are breaking basic perspective rules when you draw both eyes with same shape and size in 3/4 view: 1 eye is closer to camera so it must be bigger. same goes for lips (1 half must be smaller)
>>6920506
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/148
>>6920469
nice stuff
>>6920443
i think you want beg books to be less like books and more like work exercise book with half blank pages with: here draw 20 apples, here rotate 10 boxes. It probably exists but i never seen any mentioned anywhere. Plus you want your book to not be boring. Otherwise you end up like drawAbox and that is certified art death
>>6920865
is it true you learn painting in 1 hour?

>>6920889
Glad it's helpful. I bought a small skull model to keep on my desk to draw from and that was really good for me. Also here's some skull refs to practice from

>>6920912
You're confused if you think I'm confused. It's actually scary in a way, how Schopenhauer was right about everything - including you.

>>6920920
>>6920912
>>6920901
>>6920900
>>6920896
>>6920888
>>6920877
>>6920875
>>6920874
>>6920872
>>6920869
>>6920864
my brothers, let us draw this day

>>6920920
If you think I'm confused then you may not even understand the language you yourself are using. You clearly think I possess some piece of information that I've chosen not to share. Which is true, but unrelated to this conversation. Why continue asking questions and replying to my posts when it should be clear to you that it's pointless?

>>6920916
why did you forget my drawings
guess that explains why you act like that on twitter

>>6920928
>If you think I'm confused then you may not even understand the language you yourself are using
ironic

>>6920916
>be careful anon, finishing your shit is a skill on its own, dont do just rough sketches

>>6920932
Whatever dude. Intuit this drawing of my cock and nuts.

>>6920615
nice cock
>>6920788
uhm.. anon, this is a beg thread, take a look around.

Guys I have huge problems with figuring out proportions, especially when I copy from a big image and draw it smaller or vise versa, and all the proportions get messed up, especially with things like the torso and pelvis.

Is there a thing you guys use while you copy to quickly mentally get the proportions to look right? Not perfect, but right.

>>6920963
Yeah check out vilppu's figure proportion methods. They're much more friendly and memorable than doing head measuring shit for ages.

>>6920835
Forget the picture quality try to focus on line quality. Create confident clear lines, sketchyness should be a stylistic choice, keyword being choice as in you can make clean bold lines when needed and sketchy unclear ones skillyfully to imply shapes. The idea is there and I tried to interpret what you were going for but I'de recommend trying to draw slowly and make one continuous line rather than a whole bunch of sketchy ones, it'll help with your control

>>6920981
fuuuckk so rapeable its insane

Day 1. Installed a drawing app on my phone and traced over some pictures. Already seeing progress (a good portion of it from just learning to use the app better) but I'm still plagued by symbol drawing.
I also tried drawing some spheres but I can never get the curves right.
All I want to be able to do is draw rough sketches on my phone with my fingers, just in case I need to show something I have in mind to someone.
What do I need to do/learn, in order to gain that skill in the least amount of time possible?
Should I start by just grinding tracing over counstruction sketches so I learn where to put the lines?

>>6920997
I'd probably say learn to draw on paper first

>>6921030
Makes sense, but I'd prefer doing it laying down on the bed/couch. With my bad posture drawing on a desk is uncomfortable as hell.

>>6921031
Just fix your posture?

>>6921036
Easier said than done.

>>6921036
>>6921031
exactly. I sit in an ergonomic chair and prop up my sketchbook diagonally on the front end of my desk and place the bottom on my thighs. I draw mostly underhand (learned from Steve Huston) and feel very comfortable.

>>6921044
I appreciate your help, but I've had my posture for a long time and I know how it's going to be based on my experience doing various activities throughout the years (including actually drawing and writing on paper). I'd much rather give up on drawing altogether than to do that, so using my phone is the non-negotiable requirement here unfortunately.

>>6921049
could I ask why your posture is the way it is? how long have you had bad posture?

>>6921055
It's multiple factors, but the gist is that it's mostly from improperly sitting in front of a computer all day. I've had back problems for over a decade.
We're getting a bit off-topic here now.

I want to do the exercise in this video, but i don't have a drawing tablet. Anyone have an idea of how i could replicate it in analogue? I tried with highliter pens but it really didn't work great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBY0u7_vKQ

>>6921067
maybe unironically one of these. fine point for when you need it. use the sides for broad strokes.

>>6921067
Go find some nearly dried up marker.

>>6920995

>>6921031
>>6921061
>>6921049

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>>6921078
Holding a phone and a clipboard/notebook may be similar to holding a phone, but swiping on a touch screen isn't the same as writing or drawing on it. Believe me I've tried every possible position and the least uncomfortable one is the still-very-much-uncomfortable plain old sitting at a desk.
I understand that learning on paper is much better, but please accept that it's not an option here.
Appreciate the illustration.

>>6921070
not the worst idea i suppose

phew that's enough drawing for one week

>>6920981

>>6921043
Oh yeah if it's hard just don't do it.

>>6920835
Soul
>>6920981
Soulless

>>6921150
I do exercise and it is gradually improving, but it's a long term change that doesn't make sense as a solution for the problem at hand.
Am I supposed to put off drawing for years until I'm no longer uncomfortable on a desk instead of just drawing on my phone (which I can do right now), just because it's somewhat better?
I just accept that it's worse than paper and go on with my life.
I asked a specific question and instead of receiving a single answer, I got a number of people telling me to do something else entirely that I keep explicitly saying I don't want to do, entirely based on a number of assumptions about my situations.
I'm not here to describe my life. Just pretend I said I'm allergic to paper or something. All I want to know is how to improve on my phone.

>>6921174
Get a stylus, don’t draw with your finger. Other than that you should follow the same path anyone would do learning. Tracing construction is fine for practice, just draw it on your own too.

>>6921179
I might get one in the future, but since I'm not going to carry a stylus with me in my day to day life, I want to have the ability to sketch things wherever I am using my fingers.

>you should follow the same path anyone would do learning. Tracing construction is fine for practice, just draw it on your own too.
Makes sense.
Since I don't care about making beautiful art or anything like that, is there anything I should keep in mind (like things I can skip) or is it all the same stuff in the sticky even for just basic sketching?

>>6921174
>>6921189

The truth is you won't really improve on your phone. Drawing on your phone is a gimmick that will create really bad habits, even with a stylus anon. Pencil and paper is calling your name, you can make it work somehow. You are not supposed to put off drawing, you are supposed to make it work. Figure it out anon. I don't necessarily want to hear about the description of your life, either.

But if you want to get better at drawing, it's not going to happen on your phone. This level of "but I can't" is crazy. I'm sorry if you're being genuine, but it's almost unbelievable. Just carry a small notepad and pen/pencil with you that fits in your pocket.

There's even smaller ones than this. Cheaper ones. There's ones that have a strap for a pencil. There's ones that come with a small little pen or pencil.

https://www.amazon.com/Moleskine-Cahier-Cover-Journal-Pocket/dp/8883704940/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=pocket%2Bsketchbook&qid=1699148624&sr=8-5&th=1

>>6921174
>>6921189
idiot

>>6920916
>eternal beg posting again
don't you have anything better to do?

>>6921199
It's not that I can't. It's that I don't want to because drawing isn't (or won't be) a big enough part of my life to warrant sitting through uncomfortable practice for however many hours it's going to take.
If I'm never going to draw well, that's fine by me, as long as my sketches are functionally good enough to portray what I have in mind.
What I mainly want to improve on is the knowledge of what lines to draw, how to see the correct shapes/values/etc, how to decide where to put what, etc. so even if I don't have the manual dexterity to do those things well, I'll be happy with just the knowledge side of things.

>>6921210
Then why even make these posts and ask for advice? You have already found your answers, it seems. This seems really fucking retarded anon.

>What I mainly want to improve on is the knowledge of what lines to draw, how to see the correct shapes/values/etc, how to decide where to put what, etc. so even if I don't have the manual dexterity to do those things well, I'll be happy with just the knowledge side of things.

Then read a book and don't draw at all. Read a book on your phone. But art is not just a pool of knowledge. It's a skill that you won't really fully understand the how or why until you're trying to do it yourself. And if you're trying to do it to understand it more deeply, drawing with your finger on your phone is pointless and will only lead to more frustration.

If you don't want to draw, don't draw.

>>6920916
Everything is slanted to one side

>>6921210
you have to be at a professional level of drawing for your sketches to be "functionally good enough". It's not like music, where you can tap out a simple song with just an evening of practice

>>6921216
Because I don't know anything yet, so someone more knowledgeable than me can advise me on what exercises make more sense in my case, what things I don't need to learn, stuff that I should keep in mind, etc.
When I help beginners in the things that I'm knowledgeable in, there are many such things that I tell them, and if they have a specific situation that determines a unique set of requirements, I'm able to guide them towards a far better path than they would've chosen on their own. I hoped people here would do the same but I mostly just got pic related.

>Then read a book and don't draw at all. Read a book on your phone. But art is not just a pool of knowledge. It's a skill that you won't really fully understand the how or why until you're trying to do it yourself
Obviously I need to practice if I ever want to be able to do anything with this knowledge, so merely consuming educational content is obviously not enough. I don't understand how you got that I don't want to draw, considering how I've been saying from my first post that I want to draw on my phone because that's where I want to spend my hours practicing.

>And if you're trying to do it to understand it more deeply, drawing with your finger on your phone is pointless and will only lead to more frustration.
Better than nothing, which is the amount of drawing I'm going to do if I'm not going to use my phone.

>>6921229
>I want to draw on my phone because that's where I want to spend my hours practicing.
no, you can't, anon. You can't do that, and you're not listening. You can't sit at a desk on draw on printer paper? Do you have a herniated disk?

No one wants to waste time on someone who doesn't have the basic decency to respect the difficulty of the craft.

>>6921210
I'm a mouse-only anon. Only thing I can say is be prepared for a degree of inaccuracy which you won't be able control if you're going to be as autistic about your choice in tools as I am. It's the same resources as everyone else, it's just going to take longer. Not sure if there's anything you can skip, anatomy maybe, if you really don't care about making something look good.
I feel like there must be a phone out there that comes with a stylus you can just pop in and out, I feel like something like that would be preferable in your case.

>>6921228
>you have to be at a professional level of drawing for your sketches to be "functionally good enough"
When I say "functionally good enough" I don't mean that they should be good enough to work as standalone pieces of art. They just need to be able to show what I'm thinking. Like if I want to describe a building or a car I should be able to draw its distinctive features well enough to get the point across, even if they don't look good.

>>6921232
I drew these >>6920997 as a total beginner. That's good enough for me. I just need to get more knowledge and skill to do that same thing but better.

>>6921237
Thank you.

>I feel like there must be a phone out there that comes with a stylus you can just pop in and out, I feel like something like that would be preferable in your case.
Yeah, perhaps I'll look for that when I buy my next phone.

>>6921242
yeah, you are the worst troll I've ever met on /ic/. Wish I had the 4-months schizo back

>>6921253
If you think I'm trolling then just ignore my posts.
In case you're right, you don't waste your time and I don't troll you.
In case you're wrong, you lose nothing and I don't waste my time talking to you.
We both win.

Has to be bait. The fact that drawing with a stylus on a phone is an option, but drawing with a pencil on paper isn't?
Good job posture anon. Played us like a damn fiddle.

Please return to regular posting and activities.

>>6921259
>The fact that drawing with a stylus on a phone is an option
???
I said I might get one in the future. Not that I plan on using one to learn how to draw, or to carry around. In fact I said the opposite.

>>6920916
>i think you want beg books to be less like books and more like work exercise book with half blank pages with: here draw 20 apples, here rotate 10 boxes. It probably exists but i never seen any mentioned anywhere. Plus you want your book to not be boring. Otherwise you end up like drawAbox and that is certified art death
I want them to actually teach. Not just explain.
When you study math, the textbook gives you exercises. When you study a language, the textbook gives you exercises. When you study art... No exercises. The book/course gives you the middle finger - go practice. What, how, how much? Figure it out dipshit.
That's why most people quit. Because they see that all the learning material is made by incompetent idiots.

Some more elongated figures today.

>>6921267
After spending some time at the end of these 3 trying to figure out how to keep at least the mid section more reasonable, I'm satisfied the figure on the back that I did last turned out.

>>6921263
Ok listen. I have a soft heart, so just in case you're not fucking with half the thread and because pic >>6921229 made me laugh and reflect: just read Keys to drawing.
>What I mainly want to improve on is the knowledge of what lines to draw, how to see the correct shapes/values/etc, how to decide where to put what, etc
Easily learned and improved through observational drawing, which keys to drawing teaches succinctly.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rPHes-m5ZI8

gl

>>6921259
Wasn't the entire point that he has his phone with him everywhere and he doesn't want to bring a notepad? If it was something else, I've missed it. Doesn't matter I guess.

>>6921282
>Keys to drawing
Looks like exactly what I needed. Thank you very much Anon.

>>6921307
Correct, as well as preferring to also use the phone for learning, rather than to learn on paper then use my skills on the phone when I'm out and about.
Thank you for being fair.

I'm going to bed soon. If I get more responses to my posts I'll respond tomorrow. Thank you very much to anyone who tried to help in my admittedly unusual requests. Much appreciated, and apologies for derailing the thread.

Day 21 of learning the basics n whatnot. Continued Proko's course and got to the shape section which has a new assignment: Draw animal portraits using simple shapes and then distort the shapes. Was fun. Also sprinkled in some line art practice/master line art study with some simple value stuff, but the skulls came out pretty shit. overall ogey day

How do I improve the shading & make the colors pop better?

>>6921341
what compelled you to make the background of nov 4 almost exactly the same as everything else

>>6921341
You should probably think more about contrast in your saturation and color temperature.
For the shading probably improve your shapes and edge control.

>>6921321
anon this book, and a lot of other beginner resources, is in the motherfucking sticky. Do. Your. Research.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

>>6921368

>>6921370

>>6921374

go here
>>6916705

and if it will make you shut the fuck up start drawing instead then here's a link to some books on my mega which includes keys to drawing. Now fucking read and I expect you to post your fucking work

aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci93OXgwd0p5YiNleWdyUVJZUFFqOWFCRHJiSkNoZEx3

having fun, the goal was not to use ctrl+z, counter: 3 :(

What are some digital artists who use stamps? I have only noticed that Marco Bucci uses them.

>>6921370
god, i can't wait to get into perspective. it looks like learning that is what brings your drawings to "life".

>>6921370
tldr??? cant expect anyone to read all that lmfao

>>6921397
nigga you should be reading all that and taking notes. that's some good shit to read, especially if your goal is anime.

>>6921397
can't expect that anyone will read shit for you either

>>6921158

>>6921433
big fan

hampton book was good in the beginning but then it sort of got rushed
i didnt get legs just by reading it and had to google other resources, i didnt have that problem with other sections

hard round brush practice

>>6921477
I liked hampton well enough, honestly going through that and studying some of the drawings followed by drawing along to the vilppu video course really helped me

>>6920865
Based and turban pilled

>>6921370
nayrt but thanks, this is super helpful!

>>6921390
in the tealguy imgur compilation he actually suggests learning perspective early on, before getting into the parts of figure drawing. i only just started with one point perspective, ive been drawing cubes and snakes but i think it’s helping with my shitty anime girls in the void? obviously im not going to stop, but i want to focus more on perspective

>>6921343
its not finished actually. Saw the /beg/ and didnt want to miss it.

>>6921354
Will look into these. Thanks senpai.

>>6921508
https://www.youtube.com/@LightingMentor/videos
I'd recommend this guy, his channel is relatively new compared to the really well known guys but his videos are really good.

Also these twitter posts from amber blade jones were helpful to me, I think about them a lot when coloring basically everything.
https://twitter.com/amberbladejones/status/1720681817131622425/photo/1
https://twitter.com/amberbladejones/status/1701995880377925717
She's got some other good stuff too but you should just go through yourself.

>>6921477
>>6921486
Hampton's website has more supplemental material, he even acknowledges his book is limited.

>>6921564
To add onto this he also has free lectures on youtube where he demonstrates the content.

*chief keef voice* god damn i hate drawing shoulders

Is there a way to prevent coloring/rendering from muting linework?

What should I improve?

doodles i did while procrastinating on my math hw

>>6921558
Nice! I always find partially colored sketches interesting for some reason.

>>6920830
Something about that paper texture really makes we wanna draw over it

>>6921630
size was too big so I jpeged but the compression oh god it looks like dogwater

Credit to the Original >>6920830

>>6920981
I've always struggled with line quality, I don't really know how to improve

>>6921630
>covered the tits
Weak

>>6920593
these are great man

>>6921644
OBJECTION! your honor, those tits were scrunched up together in the original ref, it's obvious that only some kind of cloth or support bra could do that, something had to be added for it to make sense and keep the original's shape

your honor my client clearly is not a weak willed prude, the defense rests

>>6921642
Don't worry too much about it, if you find your lines are scratchy or unconfident, just draw slower and more deliberately, slow is smooth and smooth is fast" over time you'll get it but just make a conscious effort when you sketch/draw to only use one or maybe two lines max rather then a whole bunch different ones, if you mess up just keep trying

>>6921654
she had an invisible bra bozo.

>>6921663
Your honor would like to bring anon (you) to the stand,

Please place your hand on a Loomis, Hogarth or equivalent holy artbook

Do you swear that you will post your work the whole work and nothing but the work, so help you god?

>>6921452
thanks fren

>>6921630
arm is not attached

>>6921663
Implants actually

>>6920981
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

>>6921708
>GET PREGNANT
You have to cum for that, you impotent fuck.

>>6921713

>Everyone is falling on the redraw instead of my drawing
It's never been so over

>>6921734
*Fapping

>>6921734
I like your original style more than the redraw just work on your fundies.

>>6921734
redraw anon here, I think your drawings were nice and had I guess soul/potential please don't give up on account of me, you'll get there if you keep chipping away at it life/figure drawing

I should just give up and go spend the rest of my life playing factorio

>>6921750
It will get old real fast

>>6921750
Draw her playing factorio

I understand that the rest of the fundamentals mentioned in the google doc are important but do I seriously need to get into big boy proko vilppu loomis figure drawing just to make sure my funny animal characters won't have wonky proportions

>>6920863
Thanks for this! Really useful and I'll keep this in mind for when I redo it...I'll try not to copy your one though of course.

>>6921734
I like yours a lot more you have a great sense of appeal and shapes/rhythm

>>6921758
Won't drawing?
If it was extremely enticing i would be doing it right now instead of figuring out the fifth research packet.
I am a machine governed by Dopamine.

>>6921779
if you draw more, I will give you (you)s

>>6921780
I just woke up from a sixteen hour nap. I might draw in few hours but rn i'm going to feed my non-existant ADHD by playing Factorio while listening to podcasts.
Will get back with a drawing of either extremely basic human figure or a cool extinct animal. Digital.

>>6920995
>>6921117
>>6921708
>>6921736
>>6921736
>>6921734

>oh...no..

>>6921763
>>6921750
>>6921783

>feelsbadman

>>6921821
>picrelated

>>6921822
RAAAAAAAAAAPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEESS

>>6921822
RAAAAAAAAAAPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6921606
This drawing would be improved if you drew her naked

Is it wrong to be happy by social media, like posting here? Like on one hand I think social media is cucked and stuff, but on the other, the few responses to the art I post genuinely make me happy and I wouldnt be able to connect with other artists otherwise. I would be opposed to soc. media otherwise (like posting your life pictures on Instagram) but yeah

>>6921869
Congrats on not being a jaded mindbroken antisocial cunt who got brainwashed by other misfits into thinking it's good to dislike the (extremely important and deeply hardwired into our psyches) social aspects of life.

>>6921869
is this you in the photo?
I would draw circles and lines for eight thousand hours straight if that meant getting on your good side.
I am yours. I feel under the spell HARD.

>>6921856
sir I'm underage

>>6921901
This website is 18+

>>6921606
Try lowering the nose

I haven’t drawn so far this month.

how would you go about trying to imitate painting with only a smol hard round brush like a pen?

>>6921869
positive reinforcement is good for your performance, I'd say go for it

>>6921606
your taste in women

can anyone remake the Drawing Daily Thread(s)?

>6921606
#

>>6921918
not my problem

>>6921614
basado

>>6921734
it's literally a tracing with clean lines, you can do that easily

Reilly is king

>>6921632
I like this Scully. Are you drawing while watching xfiles?

>>6921713
>>6921717
nice, keep it up

>>6921768
No problem. And you don't need to redo it per se, but just draw more skulls. Reading "Keys to Drawing" might be helpful for you, too. Look here and observe the 3D form of the skull >>6920919 Try drawing 4 different angles. Maybe even all of them.

>>6921981
I'll redraw the skull anyway and then more some.

My motor skill since I drew that skull has improved dramatically, not great yet but I feel like my intention can be put on the page better now with reduced error.

>>6921370
>just watch a 171 hour course on perspectiv e to draw cute anime girls

kek

>>6920426
Hello /beg/, I finally started copying Bridgman. It is very difficult to try to decipher it but what is more complicated for me is to copy the hands and feet. If anyone could give me advice on this I would greatly appreciate it. Pic related are the first drawings I made of a man (page 12) and a woman (page 20).

>>6921968
8 days

>>6921994
this dudes arms are broken

>>6920426
Getting to actually finishing stuff (hopefully, still got some to do with this one)

>>6921370
>Scott Robertons
Autistic fucking scam made by a grifter who doesn't use his bullshit.
Anything useful he could teach you is already covered by the perspective sections of Loomis, Marshall or Huston.
The fucker will just scam you with antiquated architect bullshit that nobody has used in fucking decades since the invention of CAD software.
He doesn't even use his fucking methods, he just traces over 3d models or proooompts it.
FUCK YOU AND FUCK ROBERTSON.

Does anyone have a good video or book that showcases how the middle portion, obliques/serratus, or stomach ben, depending on how thick or fat the model is various twisting poses?

good enough?

>Spanish
Unperused.

>>6921994
Both look good, but that is a very interesting leg squish on the woman, is that referenced from the book or something specifically? Have never seen something like that.

>>6922036
>good enough?
enough for what?

>>6921990
You don't necessarily need to watch all of it. Watch what you need to improve on. You don't even need to watch all of picrel.

>>6922046
general consumption (twitter)

>>6922059
there's worse quality sexual content on Twitter and elsewhere that gets attention, so yes. but, as I'm sure you know, that doesn't mean you'll necessarily get attention yourself.

>>6920443
I disagree, bodies are like the hardest thing to start on albeit the most "fun" for most people.
Start out drawing rooms and objects. Hard surface objects to get a grip on intuitive perspective.

>>6922050
The line that indicates a transition from sartorius to glutes is forced as shit

>>6922036
Yes, blog?

>>6921768

>>6922088
don't have one till I have a decent amount of back log

>>6921642
use your elbow to draw
not your wrist

>>6922084
goddamn, are those yours? i should draw some cars

>>6922100
Nigger. Every day your blog isn't getting visitors is a day it stagnates.
Do one right fucking now.

is there a book or a course that is basically a more handholdy version of the intro of the sticky? (down to "You can now draw what you see!")

>>6922103
it's ModernDayJames I think

I'm terrible at drawing anon don't make my mistakes

>>6922110
idk man thats a pretty based drawing

I hate that art tutorials are done by talented artists. They don't have the same struggle as us, they pick up a lot of things unconsciously and in their tutorials don't mention crucial things because it's just obvious to them. Just give me a teacher who actually naturally sucks ass at art, because he's gonna know exactly what to tell his students if he ever gets good.

I'll spin my head around and projectile vomit blood if anyone responds to that.

>>6922118
.

>>6922118
Mid-tier bate or clinical retard, you choose audience

>>6922118
I sucked naturally, and I had to work pretty hard to get to where I am.

If you want to improve, get on quickposes.com, make an account, and try to get to the 500 hour certificate. It logs the time for you automatically. Use Michael Hampton's book as your theory on how to draw.

Don't think too much. Don't hoard courses. Don't watch hours of tutorials. Your goal now is to get in the reps. When you are tired of quick poses, do master copies. Go on twitter, and copy the beautiful art that captures your eye.

Simple as.

>>6922105
lmaoo damnnn, fine fine. I'll get too it rn

>>6922014
noted, I'll try to draw them again.

>>6922039
yes, I tried to copy it as it is drawn in the book.

>>6922123
>>6922127
It's just true. If you've ever studied a foreign language, it's the difference between having a native speaker teach you vs. someone who shares your native tongue that learned through great effort. In almost every way the latter will be able to teach you more effectively.

>>6922131
That's not the same at all tard.

>>6922102
I tried but it's super uncomfortable

>>6922137
Ask yourself, why do so many people struggle learning the basics of art? It looks terribly simple, it should be simple. The answer is they are being taught by the small percentage of people who never had to struggle with those problems, thus often what actually gives beginners issues isn't even thought about in tutorials unless it's so obvious it cannot be left out (ex. look at the reference more than the page). NGMI would not be a thing if untalented people were the ones making tutorials, because they would have faced the problems that their students are experiencing personally, and know how to overcome them. It's simple

>>6922147
Some motions are exclusively more advantageous to do with either elbow or shoulder.

>>6922150
> It looks terribly simple, it should be simple.
Yeah, it's not. You're still retarded.

>>6922150
Ladies and Gentleman

Round 2

Cope, bait, or complete retard ?!?!?

You decide!!!

>>6922147
keep doing it. I started drawing with my shoulder more and with an underhand grip from Steve Huston. it was uncomfortable but I got over it and now prefer to draw that way cus that's mostly how I've been doing it. just takes time. if you're in art for the long haul it will be a trivial hurdle to get over.

>>6921981
Tada, how does it look now? I did take my time with it but didn't want to go too over kill...clearly an improvement but not as good as your one.

>>6922152
>>6922154
It's a basic idea. I dunno how this has filtered you guys so hard, not everyone is good at teaching. Most people aren't. Sounds like you've never had a really good teacher before.

Reilly is king

>>6922168
Yeah you're so close but so far. The problem isn't artistic "talent" the problem is some people regardless of talent or aptitude or experience are just poor teachers.

>>6921952
Looks better to me lol nice work on the face/clothes

does erik olsens perspective course have assignments? my dumb brain needs stuff like that to keep on track

>>6922147
Do you work out?
Moving your arm shouldn't be hard

>>6922167
Nice, massive upgrade anon
Try drawing a cube and putting a skull in it (not my image)
The eye sockets firmly on the front of the cube and the zygomatic process (the eye-socket cheekbone leading to the ear) firmly on the side of the cube.
I'm gonna do a skull too
>>6920919
brb with a practice doodle

the Reilly method hits hard
what else can i say

if you practice drawing figures through construction a lot do you just naturally get better at drawing them without construction eventually?

>>6922198
I'll try this next, thanks for the advice. Glad you thought I improved though I know it ain't perfect, this is just the result after a month of drawing.

>>6922204
yes

>>6922204
of course
i recommend the Reilly method

>>6922211
Are you some kind of pervert?

didnt turn out as good as it could have but
getting there

>>6922237

>>6922217

>>6922187
I do have a cerebellum malformation that fucks up my shoulders

>>6921433
1. Do you draw porn?
2. Blog?

I'm depressed whats the best antidepressant to draw

>>6922283
Plein air sketching

decided ill try to make studies of my fav artists going forward

>>6922029
what's a good video course for perspective then

how do i start drawing.
As in form a habit. I can't do this shit off of willpower.

>>6922313
You must always have it available to you
always paper and pencil at arms length

when should i learn coloring?

which anime should i draw next?

I can't put effort into anything I do

>>6922316
Done

>>6922335
Magical destroyers

>>6922335
Kino's journey

>>6922335

Just watched (and read) first chapter of vlippu's drawing manual and tried doing some gesture drawing but fuck me I have no idea what am I doing, and drawing on a tablet feels very unnatural. can someone tell me if this is even close to how gesture drawing is supposed to look like

>>6922335
milky holmes please :D

Is attending life drawing sessions daily the best/fastest way to level up your drawing skills? I'm going to one Mon-Fri that is instructed two days a week.

I'm seeing improvements but I just wanna know if just relying on that class can turn into a crutch somehow.

>>6922130
That has to be an artistic exaggeration, there is no way that with that leg placement and that knee angle, the adductor grouping would be that visible over the right leg.

>>6922357
That's not bad for a first draft, the main objective is to get as close to an approximation of real anatomy in the least amount of time.

Focusing on maintaining correct proportions in perspective and implementing some anatomical landmarks are the second goals after the basic stick-man.

>>6922342
>>6922348
>>6922349
>>6922358
Havent watch those so im just goin make Megumin :P

>>6922244
I avoid nsfw,the farthest I've gone is drawing bodies over otheranon's work like: >>6920981

Did some stylesketches based off this post
>>6920767
You might find it interesting too

>>6922335
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>6922400
Life drawing sessions are very advantageous for obv. reasons, but that shit is a luxury for 90% of the art world so it should not be made into the focal point of your study.

Over here in euro-poor, you have to chill about 150 for 4 hours at the cheapest

>>6922499
Based classic anime enjoyer

I did this one a tad late and boy I messed up the perspective of the right foot in comparison to the left foot quite a bit.

It took me an hour to do which again I bet if I did this earlier in the day would have taken me 30 minutes.

I am pretty bored of Burne Hogarth though I am worried about not doing the right thing next, should I try drawing from real life next rather than other drawings now?

Imagination drawing took most of my effort, but turned out better than expected. Roughly an hour and a half.
The two top ones are from reference and about 5 min each.

>>6922110
That's sick.

>>6922530
Man I remember setting her leggings color the same as her skin color. Think it was KOF 2002

>>6920865
love the face but edges in the turban make it look shit overall, its clear you can do it, don't half ass it
>>6921341
delete the airbrush tool and stop using layer modes
>>6921267
keep going, draw with your whole arm and not just the wrist
>>6921328
good stuff, the shapes on your value studies are correct but they look boring, play around with core shadows being darker and letting reflected light hit the object. see img
>>6921606
practice drawing and shading spheres and other simple forms, start with big shapes and little by little add details, this should be done with an opaque brush, similar to other anon's skulls

>>6920612
>>6920759
>>6921968
>>6922176
>>6922142
>>6922199
>>6922239

You need to understand how a Reilly abstraction lays on top of the figure. You need to find these lines on the figure and put them down accurately. Try tracing the Reilly abstraction on to a photo of the figure so that you know where you can find those lines. This should be a slow and methodical process at first, just take your time.

However none of this is of any use if you haven't trained your eyes how to see proportions and angles properly. Learn to copy. There's plenty of course and free content surrounding observational drawing and measuring. Dorian Iten, Simplify Drawing and Painting, New Masters Academy, Brent Eviston, etc. Learn how to copy angles and basic shapes 1:1. I don't care if it's anime, still life, cars or aliens. Just make sure the subject is simple enough to not be too overbearing of a challenge..

>>6922550
Why are you teaching a known troll

>>6922555
I don't really pay attention to the discourse in the threads too often, so I only know a few of them. Most of the time I just look at art and if I have the time to give advice, I will. Otherwise, it may help other anons struggling with the similar subject matter.

I'm on one of the last exercises of Keys to Drawing. This is the work I've done, so far. It's a black and white (and gray) composition. What would you say I ought to work on?

>>6922570
what do you want to draw? whats your goal?

>>6922564
>I don't really pay attention to the discourse in the threads too often
Yeah I should be the same

>>6922570
It's a very boring composition. Shapes could vary more in size and dimensions, they're all roughly the same making this very monotonous. You need to focus on the bigger picture when it comes to stuff like this. Try doing this project at a smaller size, this way you spend less time and spend more on the big picture idea.

>>6922579
You should try it some time

>>6922467
fuck you?

>>6922536
Based!

>>6922616
Her butt and front was still covered but I appreciate the edit, anon

did this during a manic episode

>>6922503
>friend from across the stars

>>6922587
Really great rendering on this one

>>6922573
I'd like a compositional piece where my pens are intentionally off center but somehow still the subject of the art. The idea is that I've laid them onto an oak tree outside then taking a photo.
But I think I made this tree too wide and there bark does look same-y like >>6922587 said, although I tried to avoid that with shape variety. I also do like the idea of working on a smaller frame.

>>6922673
Didn't even bother to change the AI filename?

>>6922673
>>6922677
oof, kek

>>6920542
Something about the lighting of people taking pictures of traditional sketches, it hits different. Make me wanna draw more

>>6922714
neat

>>6920478
i would fuck tha t traffic cone so hard

>>6920916
Pawell you are stagnating like crazy. You need to do more practice. One page is not enough.

>>6920916
>Activate Windows
Nothing against that but lmao

>>6922673
kek janny not deleting it last thread even though it was ai

Hello beg, i am finally drawing "figures". LOOMIS!

>>6922570
you are supposed to draw a small box (either horizontal or vertical) and then draw composition thumbnail into it. and do it multiple times and then pick the best one. not to use whole surface of canvas. anyway your current composition is very confusing. like what am i even looking at?
>>6922505
you are free anon, you can do whatever you want. color,rendering ,backgrounds, painting...
>>6922400
if nothing else it will force you to actually draw. i bet people in it would look weird / shame you for procrastinating. some of the art books i did mentioned that live figure drawing is the most fundamental exercise there is
>>6922319
imho when you are happy with your drawings. because otherwise you are just polishing turds
>>6922313
that is easy: set up time and when its the time to draw you simply draw (or die). it is what i am doing
>>6922308
i kneel though value range could be way way better
>>6922283
intensive cardio sport (running), doping vitamin D and B12, suntanning, fixing your life
>>6922277
i kneel
>>6922150
>NGMI would not be a thing if untalented people were the ones making tutorials
I disagree. There are plenty of beg books for idiots: drawing on right side of brain, drawing for utter beginner are two great examples which are super idiot-proof. The people give up because its fucking nightmare marathon before you see even slight improvements. The hardest pill to swallow is that you need mileage. LOTS of mileage
>>6922109
>>6922312
check muh blog for book reccs
pawell2418.github.io/wisdom.html
>>6922023
the inconsistent outlines and wrong value range makes it uncanny
>>6921919
it is called cross hatching
>>6921869
shilling your art is mandatory for GMI status, do it!
>>6921765
just get your fundies from books which already do that like
>Cartoon Animation with Preston Blair Revised
>>6921753
that looks nice though value range is fucked up
>>6920930
impossible to give everybody meaningful (You). Sorry

>6922823
wow. awesome reply.

>>6922823
Activate Windows, you cheap, Eastern European bastard!

Based pavell pumping out the usual long schizo post

Back off crabs, you stand no chance against the king

>>6920946
I would suck those.

>>6922537
>keep going, draw with your whole arm and not just the wrist
Thanks. I am drawing with my arm though, or at least as much as the space on my chair and desk allow me.

I draw with my fingers. Am I going to make it?

make the god damn new thread, bitch

study your favorite artist they said...how the fuck do I do that with THIS?

What are some decent pose sites besides posemaniacs?

>>6923023
poserapists.xxx

I wonder if it's possible to simplify-sketch an anime body as a silhouette first. I could see it working well for idle poses, but other perspectives should screw it.
Also, yeah, that's me postponing training fundies again.

>>6923041
Plenty of pros who work in an anime style use a method like that. Some people just find it easier to think in silhouettes first and then refine them.

>>6923042
Do you have any example easy for me taking a look? I'd like to see references of it being sketched as silhouette first, since my mind doesn't seems to assimilate anime human bodies well yet.

Day 21 of learning the basics n whatnot. Wasn't able to draw as much as I wanted today cuz of other stuff, but I managed to squeeze in some practice before I sleep. Did some more basic shape practice, another skull value based on feedback a kind anon gave me. it's sloppy, but I think it looks better than the other skulls i've done so far. also with all the perspective talk lately, I decided to start Marshalls perspective course, while I do Proko's basics course. The way it's filmed makes it feel like i'm actually in the classroom which is neat. Marshall also seems like a cool dude. Did a small amount of perspective practice(though idk if it's a good way to practice) with a simple monkey head. I also wanted to ask so I can read it when I wake up tomorrow; can someone explain to me what a station point is? I didn't really understand Marshalls explanation. Overall, decent day.

>>6923048
Unfortunately I couldn't find the video I had in mind but I have this one, it goes incredibly fast so you can't see much.
https://twitter.com/MrSnakesnake628/status/1654559256916668417
But the thought process is the same as drawing with lines, its just you're filling the mass of the forms rather than outlining their contours.
Honestly you look like you're pretty early on in the learning process so you shouldn't worry about mastering anime bodies. Just focus on your fundamentals, they'll make it easier to execute more complicated subjects.

>>6922993
JUST LOOK AT THE SHAPES
READ NIGGA READ

>>6923056
woops, meant day 22

>>6922993
my attempt, it's basically exaggerated perspective and overlaping forms. Still very difficult.

>>6923057
Thank you.
>Honestly you look like you're pretty early on in the learning process so you shouldn't worry about mastering anime bodies.
That's right. I asked this more due curiosity burning my mind than for mastering anime bodies by now. I kinda want to get a feel of high contrast art or silhouettes as in sketching, in multiple scenarios because I feel some beauty on it.

I want to draw the sun doing a female slimy cum squirt on earth and eath vibrating and getting hot and wet with tsunamis doing the cumnova idk

>>6923067
What is that vanishing point for I don't get it

>>6920469
reference?

>>6920426
How am I supposed to find time to learn how to draw and "draw what I want" when I'm a writer and primarily enjoy writing?

>>6923084
cool idea

>>6923085
helps keep proportions

>>6923107
By doing it. I'm learning 3 programing languages, playing games and drawing everyday. All this while keeping full time job and sleeping 8h.
If you running out of time, do what you care the most at first.

>>6923112
>If you running out of time
Clearly writing isn't what *you* enjoy. I need someone who actually thinks like me, a writer, to explain this.

>>6923067
>>6923085
>>6923108
Honestly I don't think I would tackle this piece like that. To me this drawing seems to be strictly anti construction, not in the sense that there are no visualizations of 3d forms, but in the sense that those forms are so illogically/inconsistently warped that trying to construct it in this manner doesn't actual inform you on what makes the drawing work.
Also you definitely misrepresented the angle of the pelvis.

>>6923136
To follow up I think the best way to learn from this image would be to analyze the composition and tricks used to imply perspective, then copy it from observation, then apply your findings to an original sketch

>>6922823
(The P’ORC poster)
Would you mind pointing out the outlines? Not done with this one but would love to improve. Also do you mind going in a Little deeper into values? What would be a better colour and What makes this uncanny? I can see some aspects but it’s always good to have another set of eyes for perspective

>>6923136
>>6923140
Idk, works for me.

>>6923148
I mean I like the drawings but I don't think they really capture the point of the original as I see it. Maybe we just get different things out of it.

>millions and millions of views
>shitty perspective

this animation triggered the shit out of me fuck you /ic/ for telling me perspective is important

https://youtu.be/e9dZQelULDk

>>6922993
>how
Just look at it and then try to draw it. First I would get a feel for the gesture and the shapes, then add the forms in. Like any figure drawing. I would approach it differently if I were doing a deliberate master study. I would try to replicate it as closely as possible, a couple times. Down to the brush strokes.

I gave it a shot while doing some gestures. One of these things is not like the others, kek.
>>6923067
Not bad. Try to feel the form more, be less rigid. I tried to use more organic forms and I think it helped.
>>6923136
>>6923140
Yeah, I still used construction and thought of the main masses, and did more of the thing Vilppu talks about where you analyze the pose and try to reconstruct it vs trying to copy it as accurately as you can. I think that if you’re trying to learn a specific artist’s style, and that’s what you want to draw like, then you’ve gotta do both, with at least an emphasis on copying from observation, like you’re saying. I obviously didn’t do that lol.

>>6922338
Drew this based off yours, it's a cool pose

Fubuki as ozzy osbourne. I forewent sketching and doing the circle thing because I just wanted to shit out something and get practice but I dont want to color it or do anything else

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>>6923198
Sweet axe

>>6923189
I should just hire an inker so we can make coom money together

>>6922036
Yup

balds

>>6923215
I mostly draw as a hobby and don't really do full nsfw stuff but if you pay me more than my current job I'de seriously consider it lmao but I think if you keep drawing you can probably get it done on your own although I enjoy figures and art for it's own sake do you ever get the feeling like theres more than enough coom in the world as is? I feel like if drawing was my job then I'de want to contribute something a bit more meaningful if that makes sense, something like tutorials or stories etc Maybe if art was the only way I could earn a living then I'de probably be less picky.. btw got anymore sketches?

>>6923023
Pose
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en/view/FullBodies?Gender=Female&Time=30
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice

>>6923056
keep it up

>>6923107
go be a writer then, no one said being good at things would be easy,

>>6923112
>>6923182
based takes


>>6923157
ew a ratrace

>>6923198
Cool perspective choice and I like the way you draw faces

>>6922395
based loomis enjoyer

>>6923258
I just need a side hustle while studying, but I don't think coom can sustain two people even if you are somewhat successful

>>6922395
cringe loomer

Reilly is king

>>6923361
Pog

Can any drawfag tell me if this is worth the effort if I just want to draw pinups?