/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

it's been a while since I've worked on studies of any kind, trying to get back into gestures. how do these look?

Retarded question but it's 5AM. I leave paper unattended in my home office and it always gets these weird grease stains. Literally turned to a fresh page yesterday afternoon, closed up the office and left everything alone until just now, it couldn't be food or drink. Cats maybe? Paper soaks up weird amount of moisture? Ceiling leaking?? Bruh

>>6397193
Are you asking on anonymous imageboard if you have cats or ceiling leaks?

>>6397195
Yes I'm going fucking insane. I've covered all the logical routes the only thing left is if some random person is like "oh yeah sometimes grease comes from the grease dimension and here's what I did." Literally I'll be drawing something, get up, leave for an hour, and come back to a spot. Wtaf. Windows tight, climate controlled, ceiling fine, no material in the area to drip, don't eat here. I mean like what am I missing?

>>6397193
Place it somewhere else and leave something else there. you should have the answer tommorow

>>6397135
I think those look great, tried myself but its difficult.

>>6397193
post hand

>>6397193
run your hand through your hair and over your face then press it on a piece of paper and post results

Originally ink on paper. Took a pic but it looked like crap. Put aside for awhile and recently thought to fool around with it in gimp. I don't know what I'm doing with gimp but looks a lot better than the photo and is a lot closer to my original. After Gimp it messed up some stuff like putting some black around the red where it shouldn't be but I figure I can figure out how to fix it later. I still need to fill the rest of the figure with red mostly and black if needed to give it form. Think of Aiden Hughes style, wasn't attempting to copy it just use it as a way to practice giving my drawings form with shading. I have no idea what I'm going to do with the background.

Is it worth trying to finish?

Not a digital guy but after playing with inkscape and gimp I gained appreciation that I could actually fix the parts that bug me.

>>6397193
Who else lives at your home? Is this the first time this has happened? Is it possible someone is using your home office PC to fap when you're not around and the "grease stains" are either lotion, lube, spunk, or something else? Mechanic that's fucking your wife likes to go fuck your your things in your office and getting motor oil on it? Is there anything special about YOUR PC that anyone would want to access it over others in the hosue?

Get a cheap 30 dollar hidden camera on amazon. Install a keylogger or something on your pc. Also place a different pad of paper there to make sure it's simply not something that has to do with that specific pad of paper.

>>6397193
>>6397295
Also just remembered, you should also check your browser history and stuff like that. Also what sites your browsers have saved passwords for. Also either remove or put a lock on your porn folders if you have it saved. If only a few know your password then it limits down who it could be unless that password is compromised.

I think what is most likely is someone in the house is jerking off to your porn or using your PC for porn and trying to make everything look untouched but didn't realize they got stuff on your paper. Or just using your PC for other stuff but this is the modern day version of looking at dads playboys in the closet.

>>6397259
>>6397248
Combed hair and rubbed face pretty hard and pressed a finger slap to the paper then waited to see if anything showed up. I can tell I have a normal amount of human skin oil, but even if I was greasy how do I leave clean paper and return to stained paper?
>>6397295
>>6397301
The only other person could possibly be my brother who is certainly greasy and coomy enough to leave behind residue but to the best of my observations he never leaves his room except to eat or work. I'll try a camera and just see if I can visually verify where these uniform blotches pop up at. If it were me you'd think all the books I read would be getting greased as well.

>>6397305
Also why/how does 4chan reinterpret rotation? Why lean left once and right the next time? Am I in the damn Truman Show? I need a break

>>6397305
>If it were me you'd think all the books I read would be getting greased as well.

Yeah it's funny because that might mean his reasons are more insidious if he isn't there for kink reasons.
Do you have a attractive partners past or present? Nudes of them would be on your pc. Or the shit could be trying to get bank info. Check the back of your PC for anything funky like a keylogger and figure out if its possible to scan for them if it's software based.

A random woman. Fucked up the eyes. Anything else?

>>6397437
think you straightened the angle compared to the reference, don't remember her having such a huge ear either

>>6397135
they're not bad, but I'd add some gesture to it

General thoughts on this sketch?

Hello beg. Yesterday i did only half of schedule so now i have to post twice or die.

>>6397564
i rate it as good!
>>6397515
guilty gear
>>6397437
I love the textures, i kneel
>>6397291
>is it worth to finish my shit?
Depends on billion possibilities but in general people who tend to finish whatever they are doing are more successful in life than the ones who dont :-)
>>6397135
as a guy who spend last 2 months grinding gestures from this very weird book course i will say this: they are stiff. But this opinion of mine can just be "professional" deformation.
>>6397193
post this on /x board. they are expert on cases like this
>>6397244
very goofy, i like it

>>6397632
No one ever told you about your terrible proportions, awful lines, awkward posing, horrid contrast??

>>6397128
The more I look on my work the more awful I feel, but I geniuely dislike drawing humens. Even just xeroing a concept art by sight-seing.

I tried to fix it

What is the Loomis of artificial intelligent art?

>>6397659
If you want to call that trying.

>>6397643
NTA PYW YWNBAW

Another page

Just tried Bridgman. Why is it not recommended for beginners if you are meant to simply copy it like a monkey? I think it can be pretty good for people who stuggle with gestures and can't get how the flow works. Especially legs.

is it over for me? convince me not to give up entirely

>>6397851

>>6397854
I'M SORRY

>>6397855
>>6397851
Symbol drawn and chicken scratch. I hope you are brand new to drawing. Try reading keys to drawing and then fun with a pencil. Draw with your whole arm and not your wrist. You can still draw anime for fun but don't make it the primary thing you draw.

>>6397857
I've been studying Loomis, Vilppu, Huston, and Hampton like the /ic/ memes have said and tried drawing realistic stuff too. It's over. What's chicken scratch?

>>6397851
everyone has that stage, where you mentally over-exaggerate the features that you see. This happens with the curves you are drawing, they are way more curved than the actual picture. Later on, if you ever do colouring you will make the same mistake overexaggerating the values of your painting. I do appreciate that you gave a go at the hands and didn't just skip them. Keep it up :) What you are going through is part of the learning process.

>>6397851
just try again and again. where is your resolve?

>>6397861
thank u friend :3
>>6397862
i want to do fun comics :3

>>6397851
is this a meme or am i way too /beg/ to see what's wrong?

>>6397859
I'm assuming you are baiting but In case you aren't. You haven't actually been "studying" any of these people's books. Read "how to read a book" by Mortimer Adler and Charles doren. Seriously apply the lessons from that book into your art studies. You probably don't know how to learn properly/read a book properly.

>>6397873
that is definitely not the problem.......

>>6397866
The reason why you cannot see it is because you're mentally processing symbols, and since the symbols are the same, then you think they are similar enough.

As an example, the left shoulder in the ref is a corner, but in the drawing it is a curve. But since they both look like a shoulder then you might not pick it up when you are starting out. Apply this issue to every curve and corner and shape and you will be able to see what is wrong with the drawing

>>6397876
zamn

>>6397851
i drew this 4 u

>>6397883
thank u :)
helpful. kiss xo

Besides some misaligned angles and the small left hand I didn't correct early, pretty fun.
Took some liberties with colour, specifically the Gi.

Very happy with how this came out, feedback appreciated.

>>6397291
Finish it, its coming out good. I like the red and black shadow, be cool see how it looks doing the rest with that.

>>6397564
Nice, I really like the big centre character and right most character. I'm not keen on the other two characters simplified noses. Small middle characters body looks a bit weird as well his leg position is kind of hard to read. You should try inking this.

>>6397851
You got potential friend, just pay more attention to where your placing key features like the face and tits. Do a quick initial sketch and step back and check that its making sense before you get too far in to drawing details and stuff.

>>6397883
coincidentally i did this exact exercise yesterday with these drawings from yesterday and the day before, and they proved to me how overlaying your drawing can really help you understand why it doesn't look so similar to the reference. attempt 2 was done after i realized that my attempt 1 drawing was too small so i couldn't get the face details close enough for my satisfaction), attempt 2.5 was me taking the attempt 2 drawing and directly modifying it after knowing where i was wrong, and attempt 3, which was done fresh after knowing where i went wrong, was done after having spent hours on the one drawing and feeling burned out with that specific image and really not concentrating as well as the previous attempts. i know my attempt 2.5 is technically cheating since i figured out exactly what was wrong with it but it feels good having at least 1 drawing by my hand turn out very good. i also learned that the face in profile is not as easy as it would seem (draw any curve of the nose wrong and it noticeably changes the face). also happy with the non-head aspects of attempt 1 especially the values (except bright spots in the hair due to drawing them in negative with a pencil) so overall it was a 10/10 learning experience

>>6398115
also just realized i forgot the car door handle but i guess i won't get it perfect on the first time when i'm /beg/

>>6398115
>>6398118
Watch the angle of the cornea/iris. It's not as vertical as attempts 2.5-3 have it, attempt 2 was better. Anyway, if you're doing an accuracy study, overlaying the reference to check your work is not 'cheating'.

it's cheating

>>6398125
Forgot to mention the lateral lines were from the top and bottom of the ear. Your ear should be slightly higher.

Here's another example of the eye thing from someone else.

>>6398129
Tell that to Krenz.

Not overlaying to check for mistakes is a very good way to stay perma /beg/

I fart
I poop

>>6398149
A character

>>6398125

>>6398170
Brutal mog

Found motivation to draw a bit today. It has been several months since I last drew anything and I was trying to do faces back then. Dogsitting for my parents for a while so tried drawing a side table. My understanding is that the vanishing point is supposed to be at eye level vertically, but how do you find the vanishing point horizontally? I don't understand how to start when I'm trying to draw something from life.

>>6397891
Sick!

>>6398208
see the lines making the edges of the table faces? extend them towards the horizon until they intersect

crit please

also if anyone knows how to paint on a trackpad lmk

>>6397128
I bought this tablet. Now what? Where do I begin?

>>6398305
I can't tell if her jacket is covering the left and right of her waist or if she's actually that thin

>>6398358
;)

>>6398326
the sticky silly

>>6397632

>tfw no /beg/ aggie

>>6398326
>weeb shit
That tablet is cursed

>>6398421
tell me what the worst part of this set is, and ill redo it

What is the preferred type of pen to draw highlights with
Gel pen is a little hard to control

i always loved the art on the wsg threads full of my favourite metal music with soulful heads of damage and pain, i hope i get to draw good enough so some anon will choose my picture for their metal song

>>6397128
Haha someone used my drawing for the thread
As i said i hate it because i wasn't used to the zooming of tablets so i put so many autistic tiny details which cant be seen there, and then i got mad and left it unfinished
From now on i will try to limit zooming as much as possible, gotta keep looking at the full picture to realize what is necessary and what is not
In the meantime i have kept doing taco's tutorials to get better at anatomy, i 100% want to complete them before new year

Is my art kind of shit when you take in considerations my age btw? I'm 21 and I feel like my art is still high school level. Planning to first get good at single illustrations and subject matters like vehicles and NSFW art first, then consider comics as an afterthought for when I am good enough.

I feel like I hit a ceiling and am just getting worse
>>6398642
holy fuck bro, in my /beg/ eyes this is soulful and awesome as fuck and your cross hatching looks perfect. I'm 22 and I wish my creations were this lively.

>>6398642
This looks really nice
Btw are you Italian?

>>6398421
>>6398422
The feet.

>>6398097
Looks cool but it's missing somewhere with more detail to pull the eye toward.

>>6398150
Is she made of wood or something? all those extra lines look like wrinkles/Stretch marks

Just starting to practice perspective. It feels like each line after the first is a mistake but it ends up coming out correct. Hoping it feels better with practice.

>>6398760

I didn't draw two days in a row, am I ngmi?

>>6398779
>going online to tell people that you didn't draw instead of...drawing

>>6398785
I drawed today THOUGH, I didn't draw yesterday and the day before that.

Doing more taco tutorials
I tried to eyeball the proportions and draw the circles after the legs

Hello beg, the skill curve got suddenly very steep and i am getting filtered hard. This shit shows lacks of my 3D capabilities! What is this doing in a BEG book?

>>6398797
PYW
>>6398642
Hello zoomer, i am boomer (31). Your drawing is okay for real for real no cap
>>6398421
Yeah seconding the other anon, the feet is easily the worst
>>6398381
lmao
>>6398326
now you will have to do the unthinkable: to install krita on it and start drawing. Drawing is easily the worst part of drawing. Also why did you get one with screen? They are super expensive and not really ergonomic.
>>6398305
You got lazy with the clothes folds on her sleeves. Dont be like that. Finish your shit! Otherwise its very soulful and nice
>>6398097
I like it. Very dirty and colorful
>>6397891
Pick up sharpie or permanent marker and start adding thick outlines to your stuff. It will level up your line skills and if you will apply the outline with consideration to form or lighting (aka only on some lines) you will also level up your form feeling
>>6397659
to me it seems you cannot decide what art style you want to achieve. As first step try to determine if you want outlines to be visible or not. Half assing it like this is weird
>>6397643
>proportions
yeah, i never end up being precise enough and frankly most of the time it doesnt even matter
>lines
i dont give a shit about line quality at the moment, i think i will end up as painter anyway since its the only medium which doesnt inflict as much pain while i draw
>posing
i am using real life references. if the reference is awkward so be it
>contrast
??

>>6398785
I haven’t drawn for almost a year now. I posted a drawing when I first came here and was told “NGMI” so I gave up.

>>6398874
Fuck you you fucking nigger I hope you die and then rot in hell along with the retards and the Jews!

>>6398892
Why are you on /ic/

>>6398907
Why’re you here?

>>6398642
>>6398654

Don’t worry about your age and keep going. I‘m 36 and I wish I did‘t stop drawing when I was 21 (36 now). So many wasted years.

front butt

trying to find an opinion about if i should do the background fully black to make the shading that i'll be doing pop or rather just hand draw the whole background and cross hatch the shit out of it.

>>6398874
For some decent studies in muscles and dynamic poses i'd recommend looking at Peter Paul Rubens his paintings and etchings. It'll help you rely less on straight lines in your smaller sketches. Try to emphasize some roundness to the body even when it is not showing enough, it helps to give volume to sketch.

Even when you're going to paint you need to make good groundwork. And that starts with sketching well. Maybe try to lesten on the chicken scratching on the small sketches. Good to see that the larger detailed ones don't suffer from it though.

are there any good observation/proportion exercises that don't involve spending hours on a drawing? i feel that i'm getting better with each drawing but a few hours into a piece i realize that a few parts aren't proportional and i don't want to erase an hour's work to fix everything

Todays random doodle. Trying to learn more about face planes and values.

>>6398911
Why’re you here?

>>6398953
if you're practicing proportions you shouldn't be spending more than a minute on your drawings, just focus on the forms and the relationships between them

>>6398971
ah ok. i guess i'll try doing some quick sketches of random poses then probably take a pic of them and see how close they are to the actual proportions

>>6398874
Because when I get into a hobby I go all out I don’t need krita I got clip studio paint

>>6398957
try using less dense pencils. a 4B will do you good to get an extra darker shade in there. Otherwise nice deconstruction and study. Maybe go for some more characteristic faces next, old people are good example. right now the faces all come from the mathematic study of drawing but the chaotic asymmetry of a weathered face helps with constructing the more human facial inconsistencies that we have.

>>6398736
Yes

>>6398240
Nice arms, what reference are you using?

>>6397128
Kaiman is so cute
I wanna feed him gyoza.

>>6397650
>0 comments
Today's work
Watercolor crayons and fineliner

Why did my drawing set I bought off Amazon come with 4 erasers?

my color and rendering skills are shit, first finished piece I've done in a while to be honest, still enjoyed makin' it though

>>6399232
You underestimate the usefulness of many erasers youngling.

>>6399258
Why are there blueprints for a fucking jet? Are they glowies?

>>6397549
yours have a lot more movement than mine. thanks for sharing your take, anon

>>6399280
mechanic and trainee, my thought process was that they just hung up a blueprint that they liked

>>6399304
I see I see
Anyways, very soulful

>>6399322
thanks anon :)

Which should I focus the most on between perspective and figure drawing if my goal is professional character art with an organic sense of form and foreshortening/camera angles to it? Of course I am grinding both, but judging by my current art skills I feel like I go all on figure drawing.

>>6399219
and I managed to do 2nd work today:
I did try the same reference as anon >>6397851
cute morpeko.

I got long covid again and hans are shaking like crazy.

Why are there 3 stickies?

I share a general with meme flu believers
>>6399463
you only need the one, who knows

i drew the upside down picasso's igor strawinsky like sticky said. should i post him upside down (how was i looking at him when i was drawing ) or in right direction?

>>6399470
I hope you get it and die

>>6399470
I don't agree with you about it being a meme, also I think it's more of the vax complication, as my covid was very mild compared to my family but give a crit instead of politics, please.

>>6399471
Post it in the right direction.

>>6399482
>>6399471
Here it. Drawn with a pencil in a notebook.

Starting draw a box. When are you supposed to do move on from a section's homework? Just do whatever is listed and continue on, or is there some standard of quality you should meet before moving on. Here's an example of my superimposed lines.

>>6399537
Fuck

>>6399414
>>character art
you answered your own question dear anon

I took a stab at the poses, feel free to ignore it

lasso fill tool is fun

>>6398962
The same reason you’re here. Unless it involves drawing. Not that.

Someone pointed out that I was fucking up perspective the other day, so I decided to try an exercise in foreshortening, constructed from imagination, no reference.
I had under an hour to draw, and then I had to go back to work, so it's not as good as I would like, the right arm is still off for sure and I had to rush to finish.
I think I might try this again with more time, and maybe use a reference if I can find one. I chose the salute pose because it's specific and figuring it out (at least as well as I did) was a fun challenge.

hey I've bought this drawing tablet, is it enough to get started?

ran out of time so it could've used some more tidying but i think this is my best work so far (also the longest to draw). looking at the grayscale version of my reference i see i messed up a bunch of values but i'm not too bummed since apparently a light skin tone comes out noticeably darker in grayscale

Are there any resources talking about value/texture with pencil/pen and ink? I find this has been my biggest struggles with sketches

>>6399760
Just hit YouTube. What are you looking for, specifically? I might point you on the right direction.

>>6399680
rope AInigger

>>6399537
>>6399540
Just keep going, adding as much as you're willing to draw every day. If you don't perfect a section then start from that section again next session and you'll eventually rep it out.

>>6399765
Might not explain it the best so my bad, but mainly how to pick out values from subjects and how to render them. I find it really difficult to pick out value unless they are clear shadows or I don't know how to analyze a given texture and transfer that over

I'm trying to remember, I saw a video on this. I can't find it, but this will probably get you started.
https://youtu.be/LrHfrncvODQ

>>6399783
>>6399804
Duh forgot to reply

>>6399751
this is very cute anon

>>6399751
nice meguka

I've been practicing gesture daily for the last couple months but I'm worried I still am not 'getting' it or doing it right. I know gesture drawing is more about loosely capturing the essence and feel of the form, I might be thinking about it too hard. Is it a good idea to keep up the daily practice?

Any tips? Ignore the strand of hair

>>6399872
You aren't doing it correct. Watch vilppus lectures and read the first half of his manual

>>6399876
The repetition of those two shapes on his brow draws a lot of focus.

>>6399888
You mean the yellow strokes above and below them or the brows themselves?

>>6399872
gesture drawing is a beg trap, it's better to get good at other things related to gesture and then come back to it.

>>6399921
Above.

>>6398760
try using a ruler for the extensions and drawing the regular lines as carefully as you can freehand

You messed with me,now I messed you all.
Do you fucking like the game?

>>6399959
these are much better anon, keep going
watch out for stuff like knees and ankles, try to simplify them like you did in the top two pics

Some figure practice

>>6397128
Can I claim it as my own and post it? What's the general consensus? It's my character, my composition and ideas but absolutely polished and taken beyond my limits, I fell in love with this version, the AI understood it

>>6399922
like anatomy and perspective?

>>6400109
>soul / soulless

>>6400109
Yours is better in my opinion. The AI one is polished, sure, but yours is raw and truthful

>>6400109
>>6400157
And I say this as a computer science major working in AI btw. I don't even say this in an artfag cope way

>>6400109
The style is not even the same, I dont understand why you would be satisfied by it.

>>6400109
>Turn a somewhat soulful drawing into generic tranime shit
kek

i draw with a mouse and have no idea what im doing

>>6400201
>have no idea what im doing
you're drawing with a mouse

>>6398999
Thank you anon, will try.

>>6399258
I think you have good sense of color and composition. Just need to work on lighting to incorporate those key elements more into the scenery. Otherwise good work!

>>6397128
no tools only rules

If I am left handed, should I force myself to draw with my right hand? I mean I use my right hand for my computer mouse.

>>6400221
morpho muscled bodies

Is there hope for me yet?

>>6400218
Consider getting some tools because these are not great

>>6400248
Always.
But resize your images please.

>>6400248
>>6400258
Easiest fix is the teeth, also some symetry issue's.

>>6400258
Is it too small?
Drawing in sketchbook on samsung galaxy s6 lite, with 2000x1200 pixels.

>>6400260
Too big,I didn't need the full resolution to see the big issue's

>>6400259
Yeah, I'm pretty new to this.
Here's the picture I used as reference.
I can see a lot of mistakes, but I just wanted to finish it, and then try to correct the mustakes next time.

>>6400109
Both look AI

cried again today because i cant get anything right i just want to create things but im stuck trying to learn and not going anywhere everything i make looks bad

>>6400265
Yeah often it's good to move on to another piece instead of working on the same thing endlessly.

>>6400270
you have to activate soul.exe

>>6400273
Shit+memes =/= soul

>>6397193
I figured it out. The table "sweats," the insane weather going from 20s to 60s -ish just makes the table excrete oil or collect dew or something. Left it overnight and came back to see the film of condensate this morning. Amazing. Glass top time I guess?

>>6397128
well this turned out to be better than I thought but I still got proportion a bit wrong, what do you anons think?

>>6400290
Nose?

>>6400295
it's there, it's just because of the lighting it is obscured, other than that what would you criticize?

please give me your thoughts

>>6400299
hands are a bit weird but coloring and lighting is pretty good, also nice lappy

>>6400299
proportions are off and you changed the sword design

>>6400301
Thanks I'll see what I can do about the hands

>>6400306
Thanks you for the reply. mind me asking what proportions in particular look off? and yeah the swords def aren't right I'll add the right details down the line

>>6400290
What is that thing on her left knee? Did she hurt herself?

>>6400320
I based the design of blacknight from arknights, i kept the knee piece because it looked cool

Im not a good artist and haven’t been drawing for a long time,but the pic turned out better than I expected, I guess.
Btw I’d love to perform few requests but I’m new here and can’t find a board or thread where I can find requests. Can anyone help the newfag?

>>6400299
Too many layers will just confuse you.

>>6400314
Well she looks like a child and anatomy in general is off, left arm to forearm ratio, jelly right arm, right leg attachment. Take it to >>6392115 redline anon will be able to show you

>>6397128
i wanna dip my toes on digital art but I have no idea where to start, how Tony's layers vectors and coloring.

First attempt at backgrounds. What can be improved apart from the face?

How do you turn a picture B&W in CSP to check for values?

>>6400598
right click a layer>adjustment>gradient map

>>6400338
That looks very good. There's drawthreads on other boards and /i/ too but they're not really suited for what you've posted. I imagine /wg/ would be super interested in stuff like these, but it would be the first time I've seen anyone make a thread for drawing requests there.

>>6400605
Are there really no other options if you have a lot of layers? Photoshop does it so easily

>>6400614
>Layer>New Correction Layer> H/S/L
>put saturation to 0
>hide/unhide layer whenever you want
:)

>>6400350
I always learn new skills by throwing myself at them and failing over and over again until I'm better. If you have an iPad I would check out procreate, and if you have a drawing tablet for your PC I would check out Krita since it's free, and if you ever find the features lacking in Krita as you explore move up to Photoshop or CSP.

You will figure your layers, vector graphics, et cetera as you explore, but pick one topic and I can give you my general understanding

>>6400623
I'm gonna try this later and if it doesn't work I'm going to come back slightly annoyed

>>6400629
it works you have to put that layer on top of every other layer though

>>6400631
Alright thanks dude I'll check it out later

>>6400623
This way you will not get true B&W. Better put pure white layer on top and change the mode to "color".

Draw a box day 2. I think I kinda understand the speed I ought to be going to still be somewhat accurate but still making "confident" lines. Hopefully I will ready to move on to ellipses by the end of the week.

>>6400639
Hmmm, do you really need to go at such a slow pace? Did someone tell you that you need to wait until you're done with lines to do ellipses? Circles? Squares? Why not make 100 shitty lines, 100 shitty circles, and 100 shitty ellipses every day until you can do them all perfectly? I'm sure you'll find that approach about equal to your current one but in less the time. Recall that line and curve confidence are basically the same thing but with slightly different shoulder movements, so there is some overlap in the skills

>>6400656
I could be doing ellipses as well, but it's not the difference between drawing 100 shitty lines vs drawing 100 shitty lines and 100 shitty ellipses, it's the difference between drawing 100 shitty lines vs 50 shitty lines and 50 shitty ellipses. I am only going to spend so much time a day drawing. Yesterday I did 4 pages of lines, 2 pages of 'ghosted' lines, and 4 pages of 'ghosted' planes. I will probably do similar today. Why not through anatomy into my attempts at drawing lines as well?

>>6400639
Dont forget to have fun too, if you just start grinding DAB exercises you’ll get burned out pretty quickly

>>6400668
Good on you for tackling the back anatomy anon, keep it up

>>6400679
You don't have to do 100 of each, but the principle remains. You don't have to agree with me but you could probably be drawing circles and ellipses as well. Jumping into anatomy studies would be a stretch (budum tss) but you could definitely start observational drawing as well if you tried

>>6400686
>Good on you for tackling the back anatomy anon, keep it up
<3

hey everyone just wanted to remind talk to DRAW BIG! you're drawing big enough already? draw it bigger. you will thank yourself later when you have to paint

>>6400793
>draw on tiny notepad pages
>draw so small details are hard to draw
>get a big sketchbook
>still draw small

>>6400794
It's a hard trap to break out of

>>6400579
not sure if this is a wip or a finished piece but the windows are currently 2 flat planes shape-wise. get some references on how those wood structures would look like in 3D.
the tulip in the foreground seems to have white light on it from below, instead try applying the warm sunlight fron the top right onto it, and on the comparatively very dark bush in the lower right corner.
i like the figure and the cat though, good job overall!

I really want to my boxer to look more menacing, but the head and face look way too friendly.

>>6400867
use shapes with angles

>>6400884
I did that. My shapes were petty much entirely rectangles, trapezes and pyramids.

Whoever it was in the past threads who told me to try cutting out and mounting this on a black background, thank you, I like this one much more this way.

>>6400867
You need to study a bit more, but let me put you on the right track. What is the essence of menacing? How do other artists achieve menacing characters? What does menacing look like in real life? It kinda seems to me like you decided to draw a boxer and obviously boxers should be menacing, but you didn't go into the piece thinking about all these things. If you want a piece to come out the way it is in your head, you must think about why it looks like that in your head if that makes sense. Not to be an ass and I'm really trying to help you here genuinely, but it also looks as though you need to spend some time doing the basics too if you really, truly wish to achieve what you're probably imagining. Hope that helps!

Hello beg, yesterday i decided to break out from the book schedules and speedrun to the end of the book. While grinding gestures is cool and dandy, there is a breaking point and i want to start other books as well before i die.

>>6400793
Luckily this isnt issue on digital where the canvas is somewhat infinite no matter what!
>>6400579
One of the advantages of artist compared to camera is that you can paint all objects in the scene with sharp focus. Sure, blurring something can enhance the picture, but IMHO blurring a beautiful flower which takes literally half of whole canvas is grand insult to the flower, to the composition and to the viewer. Either crop that whole pic or go and render it fully. Nice cat btw
>>6400338
i kneel. Draw threads are spread across whole 4chan but be aware that on boards like /v the thread will archive before you can actually finish painting it
>>6400299
Use some blending tool or brush with fuzzy / very soft edges for all the gradients. Pretty good!
>>6400270
PYW
>>6400248
SOUL! You are already beyond hope, there is certainty that you will make it
>>6400221
I only read 3 art books, but only ONE of them mentioned left vs right hands and it said very clearly left handed people have extra talent boost for art and that they should use left hand to draw. And unlike with writing, drawing with left hand doesnt even carry the typical drawback of writing (that you cannot clearly see what you are writing in left>right direction: you can simply draw from left to right)
>>6400050
nice thot
>>6400015
that vagina is symbol drawn and the proportions are mega off even for BEG standards. You need keys to drawing
>>6399258
SOUL i kneel. Too bad you didnt draw that blue schema as well. It is breaking the immersion since it doesnt follow the art style
>>6399219
cute kot
>>6398953
Have you tried gesture grind? You have ~minute per pose, sounds like what you are looking for

>>6400903
Yeah, I'm a beginner who lacks basics. That was just my assignment I got from my course to train basic shapes drawing. Other than that thanks for the answer. Guess I really didn't think about what menacing means or how to display it. Gonna look at some examples and keep practicing.

>>6400898
by shapes, people on here generally mean 3D shapes, not flat planes. bodies have volume, flat planes don't

>>6400911
Oh, okay thanks. So instead of flat planes I should draw 3d shapes even though I am trying to draw a 2d cartoon? character?

>>6400916
yep! stylized cartoon characters (and anime characters, too) usually are 3D shapes you have to visually "compress" onto a 2D medium like paper or a screen.

>>6400923
Okay I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up. Guess I'll have to practice drawing 3d as well then.

>>6400910
good luck brotha, sounds like you're on the path then

>>6400916
2D cartoons are still representing 3D shapes, just simplified. The 2D vs 3D meme doesn't mean that anime characters are supposed to actually exist in a 2D universe. To them, their world would seem very much 3D

I already asked this on the artbook thread but I thought I would ask this here as well.
Does anyone have this book anywhere, tried looking but got nothing.

Doing taco tutorials, im a bit behind my schedule so i will be drawing more this weekend
I like his anime-like style a lot even though im not a weeaboo

>>6400944
what's special about this one?

>>6399589
Yeah its something that you wouldnt expect to work, but somehow it lets your mind wander free and just let your hand move on its own, sometimes i tried drawing strictly using the lazo tool and it really makes some great gestures, reminiscent of the abstract art schizo threads

>>6401026
Thats great, whats the brush you used for shading?

>>6400950
Take it at your own pace my dude.
It's better to get all the information in and do it slower.

>>6401038
The marker detail brush in krita

>>6401055
Yeah i agree, i think it's the pressure about having wasted so much time without learning so i feel like i am supposed to work harder towards it
So not sure what to do really
I think i will keep grinding until i either finish the tutorials or i can't take it anymore, and then pause for a few days before trying out some human drawings from scratch to assess my progress and check if it's working

>>6401075
Iktf, give it your best shot and see where you land.
Not much more any of us can do really.
Good luck

I drew a skull what do y'all think

>>6401107
have you seen a skull before?

>>6401128
No

Buncha 1 min croquis figures

>>6401192

>>6401213
These are pretty good for one minute imo desu. Are you a /beg/?

kind of dissapointed with this because i was going for a more realistic look but it came out too cartoonish for my liking, it also looks nothing like the reference and i had a lot of trouble with the measurements.
please ignore the hair.
are there any tricks to measuring besides using your fingernails or some specialized tool?
this is still the best thing i have in my sketchbook so far, i've been doing some studies recently so i guess i am happy with my progress.
i understand that i have a lot to work on, where do you think i should start?

>>6401287
this is probably a better pic

>>6401287
>are there any tricks to measuring besides using your fingernails
wat

>>6398642
i am 26 and your drawing rapes anything i ever done

What are your thoughts on this?

>>6401340
I don't like smoking, but I like everything else

Wanted to practice cross contour lines with this. Fuck man, hope all this practice pays off.

>>6401349
what was your reference? i think you should learn about values after fundamentals of course.
learning about basic perspective should really help when it comes to contouring

>>6400118
yep

How many figures do you guys draw daily?

>>6401416
i draw once per month

>>6401416
6,000,000

>>6401349
Objects with no curves don't need contour lines, but if you are to draw them then they should on the same axis as the base and ceiling of the object, and they should go into the horizon.

In layman's terms, see the part of the house that faces you? Those "contour lines" are correct because they run across the house parallel to whatever horizons they are facing to the left and the right. Your ocean actually looks like it's the opposite coast because the horizon is actually about halfway up the lighthouse and the horizon you drew. The diagonal lines on the side of the house that's facing right should all be pointing to the horizon I just tried to describe

This probably won't make any sense in words unless youre as autistic as me but tl;dr what this guy said: >>6401375

I think I'm addicted to watching people draw instead of actually drawing.

>>6401416
what do you mean figures? like human figures then 0-20 depending on if i'm doing gesture exercises or not but if i'm doing a higher effort picture then 1

>>6401428
C'mon, that's a bit too high isn't it? I don't think anyone believes that...

Can I get some criticism?
how do I improve? I made this sketch in krita
https://files.catbox.moe/3kppii.png

>>6401485

Any advice welcome.

thoughts?

>>6401511
Octopus thoughts.
>>6401495
servant of punkass Melkor.

>>6401506
3d airbrush pillow shading on top of cardboard cutout. your priority seems to have been creating outlines of a flat shape, then slapping different geometry on top. the faces are also very symbol drawn. (why are their buttcheeks falling out of the panties?)
i'd recommend you to do some figure drawing, with mental emphasis on 3d shapes.
try to actually define a light source, and apply light and shadow accordingly. the contrast between those should be generally higher, value wise. hope that helps on the way forward.

>>6397128
Nma but someone help 'em out

>>6398336

>>6401511
Great style

>>6397128
thoughts?

>>6397128
thoughts?

>>6401551
very cool

>>6401582
thank you

I'm working on my torso anatomy right now and I'm having an especially tough time trying to draw the abs and the obliques areas, I've gone through a handful of books and a ton of videos but none of them really go into how to specifically draw these areas. Could someone give me a hand?

>>6400109
First of all, no you cannot. If you don't understand how these tools work, they are, for lack of a better explanation, just automatic photobashers. Every part of that image is comprised of who knows how many other peoples' work. If you looked hard enough you may very well find that exact same face somewhere, although it would be difficult since they're probably using an enormous dataset of images pulled from who knows where.
Secondly, although the generated image is really pretty and polished looking on the surface, every single bit of style, character, and movement that you put into your piece is gone. What's important in your art is YOU. Your voice, your soul. The AI stripped all of it away and left nothing behind.

It looks nice on the outside, but it's nothing but poison. Don't give in to the temptation or you'll end up being like those soulless automatons tracing and photobashing other people's work just to get little crumbs of recognition and acknowledgement on social media.

>>6401551
Looks amazing and the only thing I can think of is that the lighting looks a bit inconsistent. Judging by the left arm the light is coming directly from the left yet the back and right arm are illuminated when those surfaces look like they should be blocked.

My eyes are legitimately fucking terrible. I can't do cylinders or proportions at all

>>6401231

>>6401304
putting your nails on two points and comparing it with another two points and marking the area with a small scratch to achieve symmetry

>>6401656
i actually had trouble doing cylinder 'til a couple of days ago too, make sure that the line you place on the top circle goes IN the bottom circle, not on the line of the bottom circle.
does that make sense?

how do I get csp's fill tool to work properly with "fuzzy" brushes?

critique
what did i do wrong?

>>6401713
Focus on outlines over form.

Your priorities in gesture drawing are always action THEN volume THEN resemblance

>>6401715
Sorry i dont understand.
I should do the outline better?
I've always beet told to get gesture, anatomy and form right.
I didn't know anything about outline.
Did you mean silhouette?

>>6401715
>>6401722
or are you saying that they lack form and have too much focus on outlines?

>>6401715
is that gesture drawing?

>>6401705
How did you even come up with such a stupid idea?

>>6401729
He's an idiot, its obv figure.

>>6401765
Slimey amphibian thing, neat

>>6401765
:)

>>6401765
:)
>>6401810
:):)

>>6401266
Yes. And thank you.

>>6401761
This is my first time using a digital art program. I figured it would fill properly if I put a layer below the lines
So should I just never use these kinds of brushes for line art?

>>6401432
>>6401375
Here's the reference I used.
Thank you for your answers. Yeah, I haven't had the perspective lecture in my course yet. Will do that and maybe do another lighthouse. Hopefully the next one will turn out better.

>>6401910
> So should I just never use these kinds of brushes for line art?
It's better not to use fill tool instead.

>>6401551
The arms are too big

>>6401192
>>6401231
Really nice. Forearm looks too long though

>>6401700
I mean, it's just the alignment and proportion that's totally fucked. A mouse drawing, but still

>>6401655
Thanks. You're right about the light

>>6401581
i really like your dynamic lines, keep wprking on it, you have great potential

>>6401581
nice work

Whoever it was weeks ago who mentioned in response to my shakiness that they had shakiness as well and fixed it by addressing a magnesium deficiency, thank you my friend. Been about 10 days of supplements/daily vitamin things (Life Extension if anyone is interested) focusing on magnesium, and added calisthenics/yoga to limber up in addition to regular barbell /fit/ stuff and I'm fixed. Or at least fixed enough that my stylus doesn't tremble visibly.

Hello beg, try drawing on gray or brown canvas and report results.

>>6402251
you should do some deep and long evaluation of your existence if you needed BEG thread to point out your shitty diet causing you to be malnourished. You are failing at living anon!
>>6401765
xD
>>6401713
i dont see anything wrong
>>6401705
in GIMP you can go SELECTION>GROW and then SELECTION>FEATHERED EDGES and that kinda solves your problem. I dont doubt CSP has that as well, probably just under different names
>>6401608
damn actual artist visited the BEG thread. Your majesty, what brings you here? From thumbnail it looks awesome, from close up it needs more polish
>>6401551
INT
>>6401416
before i opened this damn book it was zero to ~3 at max
after i started this meme course it was 100, later 50, now the amount of daily gestures is down to mere 40 lmao
>>6401340
the line work is awkward. Decide if you want outline to be visible or not and COMMIT to the decision!
>>6401107
spooky
>>6401026
i kneel

Tried drawing for "fun". Tried starting drawing the borders between light and dark and going from there, but ended up more fucked than even when I try drawing without particular methodology.

>>6402378

>>6401340
Horseshit chicken scratching

>>6401625
besides morpho muscle anatomy for artists, this figure alone helped me a lot

the obliques go in an oblique direction towards the upper back, where they meet the serratus. the serratus go underneath and between each huh, "tube" coming from the obliques

>>6402298
>you needed BEG thread to point out your shitty diet causing you to be malnourished. You are failing at living anon
Ok so why is this forum any less valid than something else? Nobody knows everything, having a hobbyist conversation and mentioning something topical like "I have stability issues and am not sure why," to a group of people doing the same hobby and getting feedback from someone who likely experienced something similar is fine. Why wouldn't it be? That's literally how life works. Like how is it any more valid to idk, visit some nutritionist who is going to throw just as much random shit at the wall? At least talking to people who are likely similar will
likely yield actionable results, which it clearly did. You're retarded and bitter.

NEW THREAD
>>6402443
>>6402443
>>6402443

First time drawing in Krita with a tablet. Definitely turned out better than expected. Any tips for Krita?

>>6402378
>>6402382
please be trolling

>>6402434
i swear to god nobody on this website understands banter.

>>6401107
I drew a skull with a different reference pic what do y'all think

>>6401107
new skull, what do y'all think