/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6396939
Yes.
Karl Kopinski mentioned that he studied from grays anatomy, a literal med school book

>>6396940
And still an int, lol.

>>6396939
Stay away from anatomy until you understand form.
If you can't reliably perceive the 3d form in a 2d space in general anatomy books will mean nothing to you and will be mostly a waste of time.
>>6396950
>crabbing on kopinski
/ic/ never change

Any anons got a pdf of this book?

>>6396939
urjust gonna end up playing fortnite or amongus later anyways, why ask?

>>6396939
The better I get, the more I realize that Hogarth-level anatomy is all you need. Just know the basic forms, and you're good

Extremely anatomy is only important for extremely realistic styles, aka, someone like Bougereau

choose books that do not have a beginner's drawing on the cover

>>6396939
You have to know what it looks like to be able to draw it

>>6396939
just draw sausages in doll dresses

>>6396939
If you're an absolute beginner anatomy for artists might be a bit too much. You should check out simplified forms first, it's much easier to understand.

>>6396939
Beginner?
Git gud at understanding 3D and perspective first. Otherwise shapes your body consists of will be incorrect, making the whole drawing look off. Then you'll think why your anatomy looks weird when it's not really the fault of anatomy but lack of basic knowledge how foreshortening and 3d shapes work.

you don't need to learn advanced anatomy, just study from life. combined with basic fundamentals like perspective and form, the human shape is just going to stick in your mind in the meantime and you won't even notice

>>6396950
post your work you stupid nigger

>>6396950
i find art crabs fascinating because unlike other learned skills it doesn't matter if you literally have thousands, if not millions of fans -- there's always some 89 lbs dork with scoliosis and pectus excavatum scribbling anime and trying to dis their success.

>>6396939

It depends on your ambition.

It has been a centuries long tradition among artists to study skeletons and cadavers. We don't really have to do that per se today, though I would recommend checking out a few dissection videos on youtube if you can stomach them - a bit more reality than some dude's pencils.

Anatomy shouldn't be the first thing you jump on, like the other guy said. When you start getting into figure drawing, make sure you learn a good system of whole-body proportions first.

You can get by quite a bit with using references as often as you can but many successful artists still study every bone and muscle from books and models - there's a huge power to it (and fun). It's also easier than ever, there are so many available resources today, books and articles, skull casts on Amazon, 3D models on sketchfab, you name it.

>do I gotta learn all that shit

The shapes of the skeleton and the muscles look extremely daunting at first, but there's a certain rhythm to everything that makes it all simpler once you learn it. All muscles work in conjunction and follow just a few key patterns. Plus, the body is symmetrical so you only need to know half of it.

You should also know where to place your priorities. The skull is really helpful to understand in detail - the ribcage and pelvis are hidden under layers and can be more simplified. The knee is useful to understand because it's very shallow, but the leg bones are hidden under layers and layers of fat and muscle. The same with muscles, arm muscles tend to be more defined than the stomach or the legs.

>>6396955
https://e-hentai.org/?f_ search= Morpho

>>6396939
>do you actually have to study anatomy at an autistic level to get good?
not really, in stonehouse anatomy's book he mentions that the body has thousands of muscles but only a few are studied by artists since they are big enough masses. You have to study muscles by thinking of 3d forms on top of a skeleton and for this you have to know how to draw and think in basic forms before you jump into anatomy.

A MEANS TO AN END
>Anatomy in the hands of the artist is merely an other instrument for making the figure articulate and clear. It is never to be thought of as an end in itself but only as a means to an end. It is quite possible for a student to acquire sufficient knowledge of anatomy through his knowledge of the figure without having made any special study of the subject or ever even having heard the word.
>The archaic Greeks knew little of anatomy and their figures are anatomically inaccurate, but they constitute great works of art. The knowledge of anatomy can become an interesting thing for itself without regard to art, but purely anatomical drawings of the figure are like the drawings a botanist without art training might make of flowers. They are good diagrams but are unimportant as far as art is concerned. The student who self-consciously displays his knowledge of anatomy on every occasion is apt to be as boring and as impotent as the kind of person who feels it necessary to parade his information on any other subject.
>Anatomy is the one study on which I do not advise students to concentrate in the beginning. Rather, approach it lightly and casually in the same way that you would make drawings during a telephone conversation. Think less of the anatomy than of the figure as you know it, fitting the anatomy into your knowledge of the figure even though your knowledge is not yet exactly correct. I have seen so often a lot of waste energy, disillusionment, and disappointment among students because nothing `works' in the beginning.
>It takes many drawings, many efforts, to relate the information in anatomy charts to what you know of the figure through your other experience with it. Therefore, it is better not to take the study too seriously at first or to devote too much time to it. But it should be continued and, if it is, the anatomy will become comprehensible and you will find yourself more interested, more serious about it, and more able to concentrate.

>>6396983
this
begs shouldn't worry about anatomy anyway, get the basics down first before worrying about specifics