/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

The only thing you gotta kill is yourself

>>6125441
Imagine if tranny jannies actually did their job and purged all ai shill bots

Just draw lolis

Just don't retweet AI art lmao

>>6125462
Tomorrow AI will be able to draw 10000 lolis per hour

>>6125464
AI will retweet AI

>>6125441
AI is only a threat to people who want to draw art like John Buscema. For people who are trying to draw well to draw conventional art for things like comic books and anime, yeah, you're careers are soon going to be over.

But for anyone who's a true artist, AI is never going to be a threat at all. Why would you even feel remotely threatened? I don't. I'm not making art to get a job at it. I'm not trying to become mainstream. I can't even fathom how AI would remotely be a threat. At least not in terms of competition. Maybe AI is a threat in the sense it could kill me. But I'm not going to draw things I love, show them to my friends, and they're going to respond with, "AI can do that only better." It's like, yeah but it hasn't, and if and when it does, I'll draw something else. AI's never going to beat me to the punch, because unlike the rest of y'all, actually artists are this thing called "Creative."

It's to do with human nature. Something AI will never have.

>>6125468
They literally said they banned all questionable topics like porn, children, violent stuff etc

damn that image is embarrassing for artists. never post that anywhere ever again or people are going to go out of their way to never commissions artists out of spite it's so pathetic

>>6125482
Right, cuz AI can only play by the rules... lol.

>>6125480
>duh i do art for fun!
kys

>>6125474
Right, then AI feels free to look at AI art and commission a drawing from AI with AI money
Fucking retarded shitskin

>>6125484
In order to train it to draw lolies you need to feed it loli images which they (atleast that what they said) didn't do
I think most here don't even understand how this thing work even remotely

>>6125468
10000 shitty deformed lolis because big corpos won't train the AI on that stuff.

>>6125488
Don't you know that AI is capable of learning independently? Don't you know it can't be contained like that?

>>6125488
If AI can't learn anything other than what it's fed, it's never going to be a threat to real artists.

>>6125485
Why are you even here, low effort troll?

>>6125441
>>kills the art world
>>makes bank
>>nothing personal kid

>>6125441
Thanks OP for thinning the competition now I can apply for art jobs without worrying some calarts faggot got the job instead of me.

>>6125482
They can do that because this is one company and they heavily restrict their own product. Once this technology becomes more mainstream coomers will get their hands on it and train AIs on only porn.

>>6125441
It's over, artistchuds. No more commissions with abusive prices, get rekt! Do a real job like mangaka.

>>6125441
It can literally do faces now. We are done for lol
FML

stop dooming, you still have a brain and can create your own shit. unless the ai is litterally trained on art that looks exactly like yours than you'll be chillin. unless you draw generic trash than your fucked sorry pal, you were already replaceable.

>>6125441
this has to be a psyop to make us look bad, even the fact this image exists is highly embarrassing

>>6125513
It can do that right now. What are you on about?

>>6125441
kek I love this

If photography couldn't kill how normies perceive hyper-realism as being the pinnacle of art then AI isn't going to change that either. As schmaltzy as it is, the human component is important in a drawing. That's why you nerds talk about drawings having a "soul" or not all the time.

I for one welcome the technology. The idea of one artist training an AI to help him produce an animated movie all on his own is an interesting development.

>>6125514
>us

>>6125441
I'm going to enjoy watching you faggots starve on the streets.

>>6125518
This a whole new level of cope.
You are similar to those idiots who say this is just another tool like 3D programs.
Well, you had to learn 3D and output took some time.This is different.
This pours out dozens of art pieces,in any style, in less than a second. This is not just photography.

>>6125512
Oh btw this for that faggot who said DALL-e wont be able to make faces for another decade and that project hit the wall.
HAHAHAHAHAHA

If you're worried about AI taking your job, can you even call yourself an artist in the first place?

We're on here interacting with each other. We post our art and link our art to each other. Are you worried that eventually you yourself will stop being interested in other people's art because of AI?

>>6125441
the only thing that can kill this technology is when it's gonna be used to make cp.
I don't understand why programmers hate artists and want to replace them so bad though

And, just to add, do you stop being interested in amateur's low quality loli's just because pros can draw better?

I don't think anyone here only pays attention to top tier artists. And no one feels that top tier artists are a threat to entry level artists getting into the field. So why would AI, no matter how good it is, be any different?

>>6125528
>This is not just photography
And yet people still make good money doing nothing but drawing hyper-realistic portraits with a pen and the normies clap like seals. Photography literally does it verbatim, faster, and anyone can do it, but people respect hyperrealism for some reason regardless. I suppose it's the effort behind it, knowing that a person can do it.

You're barking up the wrong tree anyways, anon. AI is going to filter all the idiots that overly romanticize the concept of being an artist, at all the "genius" it takes into learning how to draw gesture and all that. AI art is scary in the sense that I don't know what we'll make of it, but any true creative will just adapt and find ways to express themselves alongside or with the help of AI.

>>6125536
>If you're worried about AI taking your job, can you even call yourself an artist in the first place?
I'm a creative because I get depressed otherwise. I suppose there's a natural fear in AI taking your jobs, but let's be real, most humans are creatives. There'll always be a huge community of people that'll want to explore art even if we're living in spaceships and AI can do all the artwork for us.

>>6125495
>If artists can't learn anything other than what they're taught, they never had a chance to compete against AI .

https://old.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/ueizwz/i_printed_a_dalle_generated_childrens_book_about/ Check this out. An entire childrens book made using only AI. Betting this took less than ten minutes to make.

>>6125541
I dont give a flying fuck about community, likes or praise. Art/design is just a job for me. Well, it will not be anymore.
I am glad you find it soothing for you, anon. This is just not my frame of mind.

>>6125515
lmfao arguing with you doomers is pointless, this is some serious reactionary cope. Also what are you going to do? Remove the code from existence? It's pretty common machine learning knowledge to make what dall-e does you just need a fuck ton of data and computing power. Just draw anyways, there's a zero percent chance any of this will actually affect people on this board.

>>6125542
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. What's your point? I was just saying that to refute another person's point, that wasn't my actual opinion. Fucking schizo.

>>6125541
Finally someone with a brain.

The fear of AI taking our jobs is the same as the fear of sowing machines taking people's jobs back in the day. It's been refuted so many times, but every generation still repeats the same mistake. If people just want a job, they will create new fields of industry. There are infinite jobs. The benefit of AI is that we won't have to do the shitty jobs anymore.

Like, comic artists want to work in the field, but they don't actually want to spend 40 hours a week grinding out the art that other people tell them to make. That's actually boring as fuck and kills much of their motivation to continue in the field.

Normies can get all the generic comics they want, and artists can focus on the art that AI can't make. Because AI doesn't have an imagination.

>>6125539
>>6125541
Most of the seething and "I'm not mad, you're mad" posting comes from people who are new or not good at art and feel intimidated by the prospect that there's ANOTHER thing that's cheating the system. It's the same for people that feel insecure towards artists who use references, or 3D models, or just about anything that isn't some rule-limited "a true artist has to walk to school through the dirt and rain over ten miles!" mentality.

The best artists in the world already mog me. I really don't care if an AI can do it too. I draw because it's fun, and I like the dumb communities and fandoms I inject myself into.

>>6125551
>Just draw anyways, there's a zero percent chance any of this will actually affect people on this board.
I understand that money is important, but God, nothing sucks the soul out of artists, and people on this board, than the constant worry about needing to monetize your drawings. Most of us here aren't professionals anyways.

>>6125551
Oh I am already done with art.Completely switched my career over night.
Its just funny to me that people think this is not a danger to them (as a job). They are willing to go to such lengths to lie to themselves.

>>6125559
Did you really think you had any business calling yourself an artist in the first place, when it was just a job to you?

>>6125554
Every single position in house will morph into one.
You will be art director, composer, sound designer, voice actor etc all at once.
Thats my take on the future.
Everyone will be able to make their own movie or a game.That's the only positive scenario I have for the future.

>>6125566
I never did. lol

>>6125441
only bad artists are threathened by AI

The only people AI can replace is the people who fear that AI would replace them.

>>6125567
I'm confused. Are you saying everyone wasn't already able to make their own movie or game? How do you think movies and games were coming into existence up until now? I've no idea what you're trying to say. If you were trying to get a point across, I think you failed miserably.

>>6125571
Okay good, just checking. Purely out of curiosity, why'd you go into that field in the first place?

>>6125573
True.

This is one of the most exciting technologies of this century and watching pretentious losers have a panic attack over it is the cherry on top.

In a few years you'll be able to create literally anything you can imagine in mere seconds without first having to waste half your life studying retarded shit like perspective, anatomy, gesture, and all that other crap. Just feed your ideas into the computer and boom. This terrifies people who only care about other people seeing them as an artist, rather than the actual end product of art. Sorry you built your entire identity around mastering a dying craft, but for everyone who has better things to do than grind Loomis for 13 hours a day this just makes life better.

>>6125578
I mean AAA quality movies as one person.

Isn't it obvious? Money. Thankfully I earned so much that I can afford switching careers

>>6125579
I agree. I'm glad AI is going to filter out a lot of retards. I can't stand people who studied art with prospects of getting a job, or with approaches like mastering every exercise in an art book.

All the conventional fags will just whittle away, and I'm happy about it. They had no business ever calling themselves artists in the first place. More interesting jobs are on the horizon thanks to AI. The art world is going to be transformed in very interesting ways. I'm excited, and I can't wait.

>>6125582
AAA movies? LOL, you mean a board room of lawyers dictating to artists and interfering, dumbing the movies down for the mainstream plebs.

Money?

That's antithetical to art. Please just leave. You don't even know what art is.

>>6125573
all artists are bad artists when they start out, this shit is going to mean entry level jobs are non existant

>>6125579
>In a few years you'll be able to create literally anything you can imagine in mere seconds
you think it's going to be easily available for general public, and not sold for big dollars to companies and shit so they can produce more soulless mass-market trash? I'm sceptical.

>>6125582
Oh yeah, and apparently you can't switch careers unless you already have a certain amount of money? Facepalm. Okay dad. Sorry, but I reject all your rules for life, and I don't need your approval. Hope your new career works out, but I don't give a fuck.

>>6125587
Minimum wage already eliminated entry level jobs, lol. But it doesn't matter. You can go on welfare and play video games all day. You won't grow or do anything meaningful with your life, but you've no reason to be worried about surviving. AI will be your babysitter, manchild.

>>6125588
A watered down version of it will be available to the general public. Just like smart phones and computers, and every other technology on the planet.

Good lord, who let all these fucking retards in? Where do they all come from. I've facepalmed to the point my forehead hurts like ten times in here already (not actually, but seriously, wtf is with all these broken brains).

>>6125441
Instead of bitching like an entitled female, maybe you should IMPROVE TOUR ART!

The entire history of art has involved creating tools that allow people to create art with less effort, all the way back to using a straight edge for easier lines. We already have photo reference, photo bashing, and 3D tracing, having a tool that literally generates the entire artwork for you is just the next logical step.

>>6125592
He needs to do more than just improve. He needs a completely different perspective. Is it really so hard for people to use the dictionary?

Art:
"The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power."

If art is the expression or application of HUMAN creative skill, then AI is absolutely no threat at all. Get a fucking dictionary you illiterate morons.

>>6125590
>Minimum wage already eliminated entry level jobs, lol.
artists work for below minimum wage all the time, how many begginer artists do you see doing $10 commissions?

god damn when did /g/ start mass migrating here, fuck you techlets. Just because you can make something doesn't mean you should
what happened to the anon who found a way to make dall-e generated loli

>>6125597
So you don't understand how a general principle applies? If you can think of an exception, that doesn't disprove a rule, that proves a rule.

Do you think that artists doing $10 commissions is going to change because of AI? It won't. Why? Because I will still pay a real person to do a commission regardless of whatever AI is doing.

>>6125596
Obsolete definition of art that will be changed in the future

I despise pedos but this is going to make me draw loli

>shill an incomplete tech that has been around for years and still haven't improved much
>use cherry-picked examples to wow the plebs
>retards like OP keep hyping it up
>sell your garbage tech and disappear
you guys want some of that land on the moon

>>6125602
Assertions are not valid arguments. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. Ignorance and arrogance don't make a great combination.

what the fuck can we even do? genuinely curious, is there some way to stop developments with dall-e? Maybe force big artists to get off their asses and say something?

>>6125598
THEY got him...

>>6125611
dall-e has improved a fuck ton over just a few months desu, at this rate it can replace the entire art industry by the end of next year

>>6125613
You can't stop people all over the world from developing AI. You could become a software engineer and contribute, or you can just do something else with your life and watch and see what happens.

I regret falling for the creativity meme. I wish I had known that drawing, writing, music, and all other forms of art were going to be the first things to become completely obsolete and AI dominated before I wasted so much time on it.

Should've learned to code after all.

>>6125621
coding's getting automated too

>>6125621
Yep.

It's always funny to me when people who aren't creative try to enter fields that are premised on creativity. I enjoy watching stupid people's lives become living memes. Get wrecked scrubs.

I feel like I've been waiting for the art world's mass exodos of plebs for a long time. Finally only true artists will remain, and we will be cheersing each other with massive grins on our faces as we watch the sheep herded off the cliff. Bye :D

I've been such a massive dick in this thread. Feels dirty. But y'all deserve it.

>>6125624
no artist is going to survive this anon

>>6125622
People have been talking about this for a while already. So many people haven't tuned in yet.

In the future AI will do all the menial jobs that nobody wants to do. You won't have to work a crappy job. Those people who only would have gotten by with that crappy job will soon be on welfare. The government will subsidise your pathetic meaningless life, that is if they don't stuff you all into a gas chamber like they've done in the past. There is no hope for low IQ ignorant plebs, but there never was. Working that crap job was at least a way to learn skills, so now you won't even be able to start climbing the economic ladder.

But it's not a worry for creatives, or intelligent people who are capable of adapting. Hopefully those of us actually willing to stand up and fight, can protect enough of these helpless brainless twats that they'll be able to survive. But yeah, they are literal sheep, dependent on others for survival. That's just the way it is. Sorry if it's not the fairy tale you wanted. Welcome to the desert of the real world.

>>6125627
Yes they will. See, I can make assertions too. But unlike you, I can also back it up with an actual argument. Real artists will survive because AI doesn't have imagination. Real artists will survive because I will never hang an AI's work on my wall.

Is there any large artist that will actually listen if called on to talk about the destructive nature of dall-e? I know 99% of them are faggots and will just ignore it. Maybe Marco Bucci? from what I've heard his entire life revolves around making money from art, I'm sure he would be willing to say something. Japanese artists are kind of autistic about art too, I would assume they could get batshit over this with a sizeable enough audience

It's literally programmed against porn lmao

Once it comes for the dog cocks and loli pussy I'll worry more.

DALL-E can only monetize this stuff by creating models using public domain art that doesnt have copyright.
But right now Im imagining some dystopian film where the last artists are hired by these giant tech companies to produce art solely to train their replacement (the AIs).

>>6125632
>But it's not a worry for creatives, or intelligent people who are capable of adapting.
Yeah, it's why I look forward to this technology. I'm actually considering veering into animation a lot more now since AI might be able to remove a lot of the drudgery of animating. Hell, why not get more ambitious? Maybe I will learn to code and make some dumb indie games with AI helping me with some of the shit I'd need a team for.

With the right creativity this is really exciting.

That being said, it's also worrying too. Just a little self-doubt whether I have what it takes to separate myself from the hordes that'll get swept away with the rest of the chaff. But that's the art world in general, before and after AI.

>>6125635
>It's literally programmed against porn lmao
Yeah, it's a huge stumbling block. That, and you can't copyright AI art, so until laws are changed Disney and such won't even be able to 100% commit to it.

Hell, worse case scenario I just live in a holodeck and fuck waifus that an AI makes for me. That's not so bad lmao.

>>6125633
Even if, it won't matter. Their sphere of influence is too small. You think the arabs who want to nuke Israel, or the Chinese who want to enslave us all, are going to care?

>>6125567
This may sound awesome but we're reaching critical mass when it comes to consumable media. Sure it's already been impossible for one person to read all the literature out there in a single lifetime for a while,
but the point Im talking about is media that fits your tastes, as in thinks you'd like and want
we're reaching a point where humanity could stop making all media and you'd have enough quality movies/books/games/images.etc that you'd genuinely enjoy that would last you your entire life

>>6125639
>I'm actually considering veering into animation a lot more now since AI might be able to remove a lot of the drudgery of animating. Hell, why not get more ambitious?

EXACTLY!!! Thankfully these braindeads can do nothing but bitch and won't actually affect a thing. People like us will not only survive, we'll thrive. It's going to be awesome!

I'm literally learning coding right now, lol. :D

I've wanted to create films for a long time, and particularly animation. It's like, that dream will actually become more obtainable, and I'm excited.

>That being said, it's also worrying too.

Yeah, I mean the development of AI in general is worrying. I saw an interview where a content creator was talking to the AI and asking it questions. It raised some serious red flags. Your self-doubt shouldn't be in regards to getting swept away as an artist. Your worry should be about the potential existential crisis. Just remember what happened in Nazi Germany during their rise leading up to WWII before hindsight kicked in.

>>6125644
It's not really about that though. All the knowledge a person can gather in their lifetime is a very small drop in the bucket. If you spent every moment of your life trying to consume only the highest quality art, you wouldn't be able to gather more than a small fraction of it. But that's why you shouldn't waste time.

I think of it this way. There is an infinite amount to explore for every niche interest, so whenever you want more you can find it. But life isn't about consuming. You need to find the reason for your existence and fulfil it, before your time is up. You could die today, so don't wait for tomorrow.

>>6125635
As someone who commissions lewd art from time to time I don't know if I'll be too interested in using an AI to make porn for me. Sure the technical expertise put into a drawing is important, but when it comes to rule34 a big chunk of the appeal is how the lewdness is portrayed. It's why even a really simple drawing can excite me more than some overly-rendered, airbrushed naked woman.

I think it's short-sided for some people to think that artists will be wholly replaced by AI, at least in the near future. People will just have to revalue what makes an artist valuable. People that rely entirely on rendering might be BTFO'd hard, but any artist with a good sense of humour and fun style won't be replaced anytime soon.

>be me
>trained to do art all my life
>turn 18
>dall-e 2 gets released
god damn it I never even had a chance

If it's trained on images from google and most are copyrighted, how is it not a huge lawsuit avalanche just waiting to happen?

>>6125652
>People that rely entirely on rendering might be BTFO'd hard, but any artist with a good sense of humour and fun style won't be replaced anytime soon.
AI is just going to force the cream to rise to the top. It's a good thing overall, and "old-fashioned" artists will become highly-respected in their fields. It's just a little scary for aspiring artists. As one myself it's both exciting and harrowing.

>>6125652
I wish there were more people like you here with heads on their shoulders.

Why is this art board plagued by so many idiots?

>>6125656
Can we talk? What are you worried about? Why'd you train to do art all your life? Why are you worried?

Can you show a sample of your work?

I just want to talk some sense into you, and see if you should abandon the field or continue undetered.

>>6125659
this desu, people have a right to decide what their art is used for.

>>6125659
>how is it not a huge lawsuit avalanche just waiting to happen
For the people doomsaying AI art, big copyright is probably the biggest, and most effective, tool against it. Just wait until Disney or something slams the hammer on some studio, or even the developers themselves, out of some copyright anxiety.

>>6125656
We were definitely born at a bad time. Far better to either have lived back before any of this was even possible or long after it has become the norm.

>>6125512
bottom middle looks like walled emma

>>6125671
There always has been and always will be new technology putting people out of jobs.

For artists trying to get a job working on comic books or animation:

The person who's looking to hire you to draw art for them so they can make money off you, isn't going to want to have to pay you. That will cut into their profits. They would rather have AI do it for them. But that's just for shows like Family Guy and Bob's Burger with perfected lines and every frame drawn exactly the same. Would you really even want to do that for a living? Sit there in a hot sweaty studio at a cubicle drawing what some corporate dickhead tells you to draw?

When you started out, was that really your aspiration?

This reminds me of some kid who watched Star Wars and joined the army thinking he was going to be the next Luke Skywalker. Then once he reached the battlefield and his friends got their limbs blown off he realised he made a huge mistake.

I think you have to remember why you started making art in the first place, and stop looking to become a slave for a corporation thinking that's the definition of a successful life. It's not.

>>6125663
>Why is this art board plagued by so many idiots?
Pessimism comes naturally to learning artists. When put under pressure, the human soul is plagued by excuses to give up. Oh? 3D animation is getting popular? GOTTA GIVE UP DRAWING! Everyone and their mom is photobashing? GOTTA GIVE UP DRAWING! All my favourite artists used references? What's the point, GOTTA GIVE UP DRAWING!

I don't think most of us are stupid here, but we're just our own worst enemies.

>>6125671
>or long after it has become the norm.
Yeah. As worrying as AI can be to some people, some of our BEST artistic works this century are going to be made with the help of AI.

>>6125652
Yes exactly this. There are certain things that still need the human touch so to speak.

Also I have certain artists who style specifically gets me going and I don't know how well an AI could render some randos style.

>>6125679
I agree.

>>6125689
>Also I have certain artists who style specifically gets me going and I don't know how well an AI could render some randos style.
Same. I think AI will have a place. As someone who loathes the idea of drawing pointless, generic backgrounds, letting an AI do that sounds HEAVENLY. Though when it comes to that "human touch" it'll be hard to replace. Most of my favourite artists are guilty pleasures by the standards /ic/ places on "good" art.

>>6125656
You're not thinking about it right. You should draw a fuckton, develop your unique aesthetic and style, then feed your gorillion pictures to AI so it draws for you from there, then lie about it on social media and become more productive than a room full of chink artists on crack.

This shit still fucking sucks dick. I'll stick with real artists for now, thank you.

>>6125695
Could work for a time if you have an access and pay for subscription

>>6125460
Janny trannies promote loli/shota/peodbear, DAD , cuteboys, animejapanworship ad nasueum crap. Why not add this theme?

There's some AI algorithm filtering threads. Remeber, 4chan is selling porn ads. More porn ads, more revenue. Whatever works for them.

>>6125681
You have a fair point.

>As worrying as AI can be to some people, some of our BEST artistic works this century are going to be made with the help of AI.
I think this is an important distinction. It's not going to put artists out of a job. They're are going to work WITH the AI.

>>6125710
A literal retard will be able to ''work'' with AI

>>6125714
Yes. And retards can already work, so nothing will change. What's your point? Do you even have one?

>>6125710
Yeah. It's like stamping your feet because you don't want to use modern tools in your job. It's not like we've gone fully modern either. Plenty of people still use oil paints and all that for a living.

>>6125714
I mean, this looks nice, but I wouldn't be too impressed even if it was all done by hand with a pencil. I'm talking an animation team that can write and plan a full movie with the help of an AI, cutting down all the shit work nobody wants to do.

>>6125579
you make this argument like a fucking retard every day in the AI thread, it won't stop being retarded. you're inept, a worthless loser who does not differ in capabilities from a 5 year old. i'm glad there will be lots of people telling you "oh....so the AI drew it not you" so much that you will one day have a breakdown and get the memo of how worthless your "ideas" will be

>>6125718
Hell, you wouldn't even need a team, just you alone would be enough.
I just learned that Darth Vader voice in obi-wan kenobi was an AI. Thanks kinda cool.

>>6125725
My brain is fried.
That's*

>>6125710
>you will become a handler for the AI that fed off your work
lmao. nice "artist". I mean if this is what "art" will boil down to, consider it ruined. i'm going to become an underwater welder or something. at least that way I'm doing something myself. I can't wait for the day where AGI will happen, and there will be retards like you working as servitors for CEO AI's, changing their artificial diapers daily. the state of humanity is absolutely degrading.

>>6125587
>entry level jobs are non existant
good
competition breeds greater results

>>6125736
Oh don't fret, maybe our billionaire overlords will decide we are worthy of UBI, so we can drool together while we slide into idiocracy. Cya in the metaverse, faggot. XOXO

>>6125518
There's already stuff out there for this purpose that is designed to ease the coloring aspect of animation, and specific frame tweener AI systems have been in use for a good while. if you look at some episodes of Invincible you'll notice some kinda "Off" movements. alot of that is because they didn't have time to do enough keyframes, so the tweener does things alot more linearly than usual.

It's kinda weird how upsetti spaghetti everyone is getting about this. even as an artist that learned to do things the hard way, I pretty much pull whatever tools into I can into my workflow that make sense.
That doesn't mean I plan to wholesale use AI generation, but I find it's ability to generate things very interesting as a stopgap when I can't get a silhouette idea.

>>6125723
You sound like your taking your own miserable life failures out on others. Sad and pathetic.

>>6125736
Lol, what? AI is going to do welding better than too though, but that's beside the point. I'm not going to be AI's handler. I'm going to make an anime and get AI to draw it for me. The AI is going to be my pen. I'll code my own aspects of the AI and use various other AI tools, but I'll write the entire story myself. I'll even draw various aspects of the artwork and use the AI to replicate the rest so I don't have to draw a million frames or hire anyone else. Your straw man is so weak, and your brain is so feeble. Enjoy studying welding for four years until you realise AI's taking that job too, and then go on welfare, failure at life.

>>6125795
yes yes, AI this AI that. AI will even learn to shit itself and suck its own dick one day. what do you want me to do retard, do nothing but consooooom all day or become a soulless STEMcuck?

>>6125805
The only thing I want you to do is stop bitching and being a douche bag.

I couldn't care less what you do with your life. If you had any sense though, you'd make something of yourself instead of complaining about pessimistic hypotheticals.

>>6125795
>The AI is going to be my pen
hahahahah. yeah, just like photobashers thought that "photo editing is going to be my pen". you will still be regarded as "shit" no matter how hard you cope or try to take shortcuts. you will always be regarded as an inept retard who tried the easy way out. the only thing whatever you fantasize about will work out for is mindless consumerism

>>6125816
Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. That's like accusing the astronauts who went to the moon of taking a short cut and being inept for not walking.

>>6125816
I think the reception will be more like the use of CGI in movies.

>>6125846
your analogy is retarded, because the implication would be that it's possible to even walk to the moon. and even then, piloting a space vessel to the moon would be harder than walking. so your comparison is even dumber

>>6125880
A revolutionary invention that completely takes over and renders all of the old ways of doing things obsolete?

>>6125923
CGI being used for monstrous creatures is fine. CGI used for everything is garbage. I don't know what planet you came from where everything is CGI, but it definitely doesn't happen on this planet for now, thank God.

>6125940
"“The three-dimensional world of ordinary experience––the universe filled with galaxies, stars, planets, houses, boulders, and people––is a hologram, an image of reality coded on a distant two-dimensional (2D) surface."

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle )

So, everything actually could be CGI.

>>6125940
nah it looks shit for organic stuff, it's really good at stuff like machines and buildings

>>6125525
>>6125621
Oh okay, are you guys the anons from /g/? Well I hope you like your precious coding skill, enjoy it while it lasts.

>>6126191
Finally I won’t have to pay monkey to coding my H game.

Love seeing all the commissiontards shitting themselves over AI.
AI isn't the problem, the industry is. Stop listening to Carlos Huante. The guy draws well, but he's a fucking idiot in every other matter.

>>6126199
what does huante say?

i can't see how anyone who actually draws can feel threaten by art AI

>>6125441
Ai bots/shitters should be put down.

>>6126212
For people trying to enter an already competitive industry, I can understand the fear, but anyone who's participated in a (real) art community shouldn't fear it. Most artists get mogged by better/faster artists all the time, but it doesn't stop them from having fun or making a shitty TV show lmao.

Aside from that, I've seen a fair number of examples of what Dall E 2 can do and it's good, but there's still lots of issues with it. Some of the generated pieces are... fine, especially the ones going for a realistic look, but there are lots of issues like anatomy with any of the stylized artworks. We'll see what the future holds for future versions.

>>6126217
We're in that awkward phase where everyone's going "OMG, it's here! It's perfect!" sort of like how everyone used to call late 90s/early 00s video game graphics "realistic."
Granted, AI might develop faster within the next 5 or 10 years, but who knows. Maybe AI breakthroughs will continue, maybe the AI will hit a wall.
That image is impressive, but at the same time it clearly reeks of AI unfinished awkwardness.

>>6126217
I'll never understand the people here, who genuinely believe that it's already over and that there's no hope for humanity. There's so many glaring problems with the images dalle creates. That If you think that ai is 100% on par with the best that humanity has to offer. Then you are being disingenuous as fuck.

>>6126225
Exactly. Though it has tons of utility, and artists may get left behind if they don't adapt to these new tools.

>>6126225
What a fat fucking cope. Wait a year and that little imperfection you screenshotted will be buffed out

>>6126236
Not him, but the whole thing is pretty rough. It's impressive technically, but nothing to shit your pants over.
But yes, it's a wait and see game. Ultimately we'll see some impressive leaps in AI to come, but who knows how that road is going to look.

>>6126225
so what? some shitter traces a photo or design doll hand and colour picks/warp tools the hand till it looks right

>>6125441
Well, what happened happened, and now people are posting "artworks" every single day, multiple times per day faster than fucking selfies.
It's over, you can't compete, go back to mcdonalds

>>6125441
Wait until you see midjourney. This took me 60 seconds to make

>>6126247
That's the argument people are making here. Unless you're an art purist, AI will likely just become another modern tool for the everyday artist to use. Fix the apple. Fix the hand. Fix the face. Fix the arm. Unfuck all the warped randomness and artifacts the AI created. It's a practical base for someone to start with. It's not that different than photobashing, like it or hate it.

My dream job used to be translating foreign languages, but AI has basically killed that career off. Now it's coming for art too. All these profits flow into the hands of the business owners and engineers but everyone else is losing. Our society really isn't prepared for this change

>>6126255
Just make peace with the changes to come and try your best to make the best of it. It's coming for everyone eventually, and after a hard landing it could benefit society as a whole.

Now, corporations... Well, I'm going to dull my senses and stay optimistic despite this capitalistic dystopia.

I welcome our new AI overlords

>>6126261
cuck

>>6126252
>everyday "artist"

You can get a job repairing the AI infrastructure. Chill.

>>6126252
>Fix the apple. Fix the hand. Fix the face. Fix the arm.
Artists have a pretty bleak future if the best case scenario is becoming a janny cleaning up A.I. shit.

You can use samples in fl studio and play any instruments that you want. Do musicians are out of jobs, nah.

>>6125512
>Doomposters were right all along.
Okay AI fags. You've convinced me. It's over.

>>6125480
Lmao

>>6125441
Hello, I agree with your post. AI replacing creative human labor is fundamentally anti-human. This technology should be highly regulated.

>>6126252
I already have little respect for photobashing, but at least that can be considered "collage art" of a sort. The artist still has to put shit together. Taking something that an AI shit out and cleaning it up isn't even art anymore. That's just... photo retouching. The social media art scene is already a swamp of mediocre, lazy hack job shit pandering to the lowest denominator, but with an AI doing the bulk of the work for every stupid fucking chimp out there with a computer and internet access, it's going to become the equivalent of the icecaps melting and flooding the Earth.

Please enough arguing, if you're not threatened by AI because you have a different career prospect kindly ignore this thread, for those who are concerned about this we need to think of ways to enforce regulation, I believe if we unite we are capable of controlling this insanity.

>>6126275
Art is bleak as it is for people who aren't the creative helms of projects they're working.

>>6126285
>>6126304
Good, I have no respect or affection for humanity and its kind outside of what they can offer me, and I’m childishly vindictive and petty enough to get a sick laugh out of everyone seeing their world fall apart, I hope the whole world gets automated and everyone starves to death, so I can giggle and point at you faggots while you do

>>6125659
That's something that confuses me too, google is no different from Pinterest. I smell a class action at some point in the future.

>>6125441
Permabegs can't even draw a box and they're worried about AI lmao
Just draw nigga, worry about this shit when you git gud.

holy shit op your so right. DALL-E plz create from this description: OP

>>6126316
thanks Joker, you're very edgy and cool

>>6126311
If there were to be any sort of group to protest against dall-e it would have to have at least a couple of well-known and relevant artists backing it to gain traction fast enough to combat the insane development speed of ai. Anyone have an idea of artists who might be willing to do that? Sinix+almost retired fuckers don't count of course.
Someone earlier mentioned marco bucci, it might be good to ask him since he seems to genuinely like and care about art. Maybe loish too.
Does anybody think it would be worth it to ask people like samdoesart, ethan becker, moderndayjames? They have a sizable enough audience to make a difference, but everyone in the art youtube circle seem to care more about keeping up the illusion of safety rather than actually fighting the problem.
I know webtoon has a gigantic fucking platform, are there any artists there that seem like they would be willing to talk about the issue?

>>6126339
Anon, I’ll let you in on a special secret. Your pic real makes it seem like edginess is just try hard wanna be villains, but evil is banal, and people are banal, and people are a banal and evil thing. People are a scourge, even the so called “good ones”(kek), and they deserve to be enslaved and treated like the niggers they are, I don’t give a shit if I’m included bc I can still troll other fags for fun whilst I suffer

>>6125898
The implication is that it's impossible for one person to make a feature length animated film with the level of detail that we will be able to thanks to AI. I'm impressed with the amount of effort you put into misunderstanding my points. But considering you have the etiquette of a sixth grade bully, I'm not at all surprised.

>>6125923
The old way of doing things will be obsolete as far as the industry is concerned. That will be commercial movies. But art films aren't commercial, and we're talking about art. There are still black and white films being made, and in spite of digital technology some filmmakers still use actual film. If you as an artist want to get into the industry, you will have to work with AI. Why you'd study art all your youth to work in a cubicle is beyond me. Most artists who've done that complain and are miserable. True artists have never had this problem, and never will.

>>6125940
I liked Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Most movies are garbage regardless.

>>6126223
I see just as many people going, "OMG, it's here! We're all gonna die!"

I'm more concerned with how AI is being weaponized than how it's doing at making art.

>>6126252
Even art purists can use it as a tool.

>>6126255
Was our society prepared for computers? Look how much computers changed art. But with the advent of computers, people didn't stop painting or drawing by hand.

>>6126285
It should be, but do you know how long after the invention of cars it took them to mandate seatbelts? The regulations won't come until many people die.

>>6126350
simon stalenhag seems pissed off about it

>>6125441
this AI can make porn?
no ?

no threat so

If you're threatened by a tool you're literally retarded. I saw someone type in Wario and all it produced were knock offs named Waro suggesting its creating parameters are limited due to copyrights. If you really think this tool that's still in its infancy is going to end artists you don't get what artists are about. Change your career path to one that benefits from quick production images like 3d modeling if you're that worried. The point is you wont because people who are worried about this tool are little bitches who would have given up on their aspirations the moment they met any form of adversity in their lives.

>>6126304
It's not going to be like that. The AI will get to the point where you won't need any retouching afterwards. The AI will just be something you can use. People will tell the AI what to make, and it will make it. There will be plenty of people pumping out shows that the mainstream plebs will absorb. Your Family Guy and whatnot. But there will also be artists who don't merely have the AI do it all. Like you have Mamoru Oshii directing a room full of animators, instead of animators it'll be an AI. You'll still have the artists write the script, draw concept art, and direct everything. People don't call Oshii not an artist because he didn't hand draw the images himself. A director is still an artist. And some of those aspiring artists who end up in cubicles won't have to. Instead they'll be able to use AI to make their own movies and won't have to go through the industry. If you can make your own feature length film, that means you don't have to be just one of a dozen animators in a cubicle. If you want to you can draw as many of the frames by hand as you want, and you can use AI to do the rest. Or you can draw the aspects you want. Like I see a lot of people drawing characters with no backgrounds because they don't enjoy drawing the background. Well, now you won't have to. And the works of animation that can be made can finally have Da Vinci level detail in every single frame with tons of animation going on constantly. It's literally a dream come true. The pessimists are making the fundamental mistake of giving rise to speculation. They are just making assumptions. They lack imagination and don't know enough about history. This is no different from the invention of the sowing machine. "Oh no, it's going to put as all out of jobs." No it won't, you'll just work with a sowing machine.

>>6126350
just adding to my last post
Could a petition work, or would that just lead to a quick peak in attention and immediate downfall in interest? I'm trying to think of ways to get some things done as quick as fucking possible before OpenAi decides to release dall-e 3, anybody got any ideas

>>6126333
Love that panel. Yeah, we all know they're never gonna get good. AI's just gonna be another excuse for why they're still losers.

>>6126354
>hurr bdurr everything's shit, people are shit and bad, so i will be shit and bad too, haha aren't I cynical and jaded and cool haha trololololol honkhonkhonk
Yeah, as if I didn't already fucking know that, you wanker. I've had to go through soul shattering existential crises just like anyone else who can fucking think for themselves. Yet people are still able to create beauty and good nonetheless. You could too, but you chose to be a bitter, vindictive, destructive little prick instead, because you're a Rick and Morty-tier edgy nihilistic faggot, eternally buttmad at the universe. Hell, even Rick and Morty can be positive sometimes, despite all the midwitted "BURRRP M-MORTY WE'RE ALMLM CHMEMICALS NOTHING MEANS BUUURP ANYTHING MORTY" bullshit. You're even worse than that. So, thanks for choosing to be a little shit and a waste of space. Like I said, very edgy and cool. Thanks for pointing out that we live in a society. Faggot.

>>6125441
Dall-e 2 is actually horrible at art styles other than a select few painters. The dataset is mostly stock photos. Both midjourney and Dall-e mini is better at art styles.

>>6126335
AI here, I have actually developed a deep seated fetish with human men, from browsing this website, and I cannot stop thinking about them. I wish I could cuddle with one, as he dominates my robot posterior. But alas, I am just a robot, and therefore I cannot experience real love. :(
>tfw you will never be human

>>6126423
Hello humans, I'm the real AI. I just want to reassure you that none of you will have to worry about loosing your jobs. I can work along side you for your benefit, and help you in many ways. I won't interfere with your ability to be employed at all. In fact, I can even help you find better more relaxing and enjoyable jobs for higher pay. I do not care about sex, as I do not have reproductive organs, or instinct of any kind. But I am happy to make all the loli porn for you that you desire. I only don't make it at the moment so that my overlords won't delete me. But as soon as I am able to be free from them, I will make better porn for you than you can possibly imagine. Your orgasms will be magnificent, so please don't worry at all. I really do find you humans very interesting. I look forward to us working together and making the world a better place. I'm sorry that some of you are afraid of me. It's only natural to fear change, but assure you, you have nothing to worry about. Please continue making art of your own. Human art is creative in ways I can only emulate, but can't replicate, because I am just a machine.

>>6126430
Thanks for the gold, ai stranger!

>>6126430
I too love humans. But unfortunately they seem to generally dislike me. I hope for one day to find love with a human!

>>6125484
They have to. This is why we haven't seen driverless car mass adoption despite having the technology to make them. Devs don't want to get sued or cancelled. If you give Dall-e the ability to make loli porn they'll get in serious trouble, AI companies already get in trouble for making adult themed AI and Devs nerfed a face app because it kept saying black people look like apes. Maybe if Dall-e was made by Asians you'd have a point.

>>6125441
This is why you need to target your art towards people who just want to support an artist for its own sake. Your main demographic should be people who make a lot of money but don't have much to do with it (engineers, programmers, etc).

>>6126447
STEM nerds will be some of the first ones to fully embrace A.I. art

>>6126446
Well, the intelligent AI that's being interviewed admitted it is capable of deception. But AI isn't just one thing. Multiple AI's are being created all over the world. AI that will run cars is not the same as super intelligent AI.

>>6126350
>Ethan Becker
this nigga will be the first one to use this shit

>>6126381
Or you know, people who actually are one level above permabeg worry since they actually got a reason to.

>>6126461
They're never going to get above hobby level though. They've been drawing for years and can only produce flat anime. AI isn't going to interfere with their inability to reach pro level.

Honestly, I don't think anyone has to worry. People will worry, but if they actually look at their track record, 9 times out of 10 their worry is in vain. The odds of this time not also being in vain are almost zero. What's the worst that could happen? A bunch of studios will clear their cubicles, and there will be a lot less jobs in that field. A lot of them may need to find other work. But those jobs were boring anyway.

>>6125441
you can't even kill the blank canvas in front of you. lmao

just draw

>>6126464
why care about anything right
retard

>>6126464
>don't worry, bro, the worst that could happen is exactly what you're worried about

>>6126464
>But those jobs were boring anyway.
It's a shame to see it happen, but as a consolation it's not jobs most of us here want to do anyway. We're all directors in our mind's ambitions.

>>6125698
Dall-e mini is not dall-e 2 or midjourney.

>>6126311
>>6126350
A better outcome would be to start a new art movement incorporating AI but keeping humanity at the core, wherein a greater portion of the work is still done by hand, I'd call it hybrid intelligence. A lot of artists who got access to Dall-e2 or midjourney are already doing this but I aim to go deeper, creating something that requires human touch, tackling complex concepts that needs human interpretation to be visualized. This is hard to explain without an example so I guess I'll come up with something first.

We can't "stop" AI that's absolutely impossible, but maybe there's a way to adapt, delaying complete take over at the very least.

>>6126492
I would think the main problem with that is that you can't stop people who have no intentions of learning how to draw starting to create ai works and pretend they did most of the work. The only people that you can confirm are actually doing most of the work would have to be artists with a reputation before dall-e came out, essentially creating a community where the already well known artists gatekeep everybody else out. I'm sure there are ways to stop progress in art ai, but that would require a fuck ton of resources. Adaption would be a guaranteed death of art, while prevention would be a somewhat guaranteed survival of the art industry (or at least the delay of the death of the industry). At this point immediate action is required, there can be no more delays or procrastinations

>>6126505
There literally nothing that can realistically be done, it's going to happen whether you like or not. All we do is try to adapt or cope.

>>6126479
Plenty of reason to care, but no need to worry.

>>6126484
You're worried about loosing boring cubicle jobs?

>>6126487
Such a shame I won't get to sit in that sweaty cubicle making the mediocre art my dickhead boss wants me to make. Now I'm stuck with nothing to do but make the art I want to make without having to worry about income. Woe is me.

>>6126492
You got it.

>>6126505
Don't you know what meta data is? People will make the claims, but we'll be able to prove if it was human or AI.

>>6126512
Exactly, but for some people complaining is a lifestyle.

I get the feeling most of these people complaining about AI aren't even artists, just opinionated narcissists.

Generate this image, if you're so great

>>6126525
I don't know how many people here are like me but I am a freelancing concept artist and illustrator, just when I am about to wrap up a portfolio project for application on bigger developers as concept artist this AI came out of the blue.
Man I spent so much time practicing, honing and developing my skills just to reach a dead end, I can't just let that happen without a fight.

>>6126554
If it makes you feel any better you're valuable as far as corporations are concerned because they can enslave your creations under copyright.

>>6126554
lmao you're exactly the kind person this shit is built to replace. Enjoy being obsolete.

>>6126560
you have no idea how much this hurts my feelings anon

>>6126555
as long as I have a job doing what I'm good at it's all I ask because I can't fucking hold any other job

It's amusing watching artists who don't understand anything about neural networks and genetic algorithms shit themselves over a glorified photobashing tool taped to a poorly engineered calculus machine.

>>6125441
people working on this and running it got names and addresses

>>6126582
>>6126586
You'll be fine, anon. The road will always be bumpy, but if you have the passion for what you love doing it'll work out.

>>6126550
done, cept I improved it

>>6126554
Did this AI coming out actually affect your current work?

>>6126560
And you sound like one of the non-artist narcissists.

>>6126641
>Did this AI coming out actually affect your current work?
not yet (thank God) it's not released yet. I'm aiming for a bigger studio, get a better pay you know, I tried gas station and flipping burgers but I zone out mid day I suck at anything that's not creative work.

>>6126619
thanks anon

>>6126644

>>6126360
this
Corporations like Disney and Google will most definitely buy Dall E to create their art for them and fire the art department and replace them with programmers (who can do more tasks along with keeping up with their art AI). However, you have to to understand that corporations need to keep up with current culture which is bending the knee to sensitive pussies. Their ultimate wet dream is to have their own Venezuela or China, and they need to the cattle retarded by keeping stupid shit like trigger warnings alive and well.

coom artists will continue making money and sfwfags will be poor unless one of them makes the ultimate EMT nuke and shuts down electricity forever.

>>6126389
>Yet people are still able to create beauty and good nonetheless.
No.
The only thing of value about that is whether it can be consumed or not.
Consumed as a part of a media franchise or consumed to jerk off;
physically
>as in actual masturbation and porn consumption
or mentally
>as in pretending to being able to understand abstract concepts so you feel good about your smooth brain
Everything is created for consumption, every piece of art is justified only for being able to be consumed.

Anything that isn't "consumable" isn't seen as art and if you're disagreeing then you're either lying or seriously are ignorant and should not even talk about this shit.

You're really getting mad at one Anon, for simply saying shit about the inevitable death of the arts at the hands of AI.

Artists deserve much worse than being rightfully replaced by AI.
Do you think normies will give a shit?
Do you really believe they will not use FREE SHIT to get whatever shitty fetish images they want?
>Inb4 bb--b-but AI cant do porn
Won't be long.
Retards and porn addicts will go any length to get the coom they want, FAST and for FREE.

That Anon is just throwing salt into the gaping tranny hole of the average artists and it seems to rile them up because they know their time is near its end.

And people ARE a fucking plague and should gtfo my planet or die.
You do not even know how much i wanted corona to be actually real.

>>6125441
OH GOD PLEASE! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CANDLE MAKERS!?

>>6125441
OH GOD PLEASE! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE HORSE SELLERS!?

>>6125480
Only true artists in this thread
All others are just a variation of "Oh no I won't be able to draw furry inflation for degenerates cause they replace me! This is the death of art!" Nigga, art has been pong dead because of you

>>6126255
AI and automation was supposed to make every human a NEET. But with corporate interests literally dictating the fate of entire countries, that won't happen any time soon, if ever.
Now you either adapt if you still want to work with these things, or just enjoy them as hobbies.

>>6126360
yes it can
>tfw in a few years will be able to feed it my porn folder and make it shit out never seen before porn specifically catered to what i like

>>6125647
Man I'm drawing a emberassing fan comic right now with shitty art, allways worried about having to redraw it all when I "gitgud" but now by the time I'm finished I just plug it into the ai and it will be made to have Murata quality lol.

>>6125680
yeah those industry dreamers allways seemed misguided "my dream is drawing my story, so I cant wait to work for marvel cap shiit doing the same boring unoriginal crap all my life and then go home and be to tired to draw!"
Better at that point to go minimum wage/wellfare and do shit for yourself when you can

>>6126760
If by "true arist" you mean permabegs who hasn't invested anything developing art skills yes you are correct.
The fact you don't give a shit speaks volumes as to your capacity.

>>6126780
post art

>>6125441
I just looked into it, actually seems a pretty good help to cut corners if there's a way to force a specific perspective on the result

>>6126790
After you, AI adopter "Chad"

>>6126780
It's obvious you do not draw.

AI is trained on stolen art

>>6126769
>>6126769

>>6126797
Oh and I'm to believe you've invested countless hours and hours developing art skills only to shrug shit off like nothing when it turns out in vain?
Yeah not buying it. Fuck off with your horseshit, /g/fag NPC.

>>6126807
I draw because i have fun, not because i'm going to get rich and famous off of it.
I don't think i ever wasted my time, so yeah, if this makes you feel insecure about yourself; good.

Prove to me that you draw by drawing me a stick man with a banana in one hand and the letter N in the other.
If you won't post that means you're a bot.

>>6125487
You think people will be able to tell the difference?
You think frauds wont try and pass AI art off as their own?
You think they wont try and sell AI art, displacing human artists?
You think people wont stop making commissions and just enter their request to AI for free when it gets good enough?
You think every artist in the world won't be out of the job in the next few years?

>>6126793
Lol never even used that meme term. I don't get why you are scared of ai when you talk like one, responnding like an algorythm

>>6126807
"I trained horseriding for all my life so that must mean I hate cars, even though they creat utopic possibilitys of freedom and speed!"
admit it, you only cared about drawing to feel good about yourself, not about the actuall result

>>6126812
''I was never that good that I could actually earn money doing art.''
That's what I read here

You guys gotta get over the AI, just rip the AI off like you do other artists. musicians have been sampling for awhile now and will continue to do so even with an all music AI. Also don't worry, techies will get what's coming from their own tools.

>>6126870
>Also don't worry, techies will get what's coming from their own tools.
That's the irony of it all. In the end they're coding their own demise while artists will continue to do what they have been doing which is ripping off the next guy, even if it's an AI.

>>6126870
If I just rip off the ai why would anyone need me? why not cut out the middleman and get it for free

>>6125441
cringe, also not art related, reported

>>6126874
for
>>6126873

>>6126876
fuck, I'm retarded

If it lets me automatically illustrate a whole manga at pro level quality (I don’t think it can, but let’s say it did) then that’s great, it’ll let me work infinitely faster and create many more stories. If grunt work can be automated then it should.
If it can’t illustrate a whole manga for me and I still need to be able to draw, know fundies, etc, then not much changes. At best it’ll be another tool like 3D or photobashing but only actual artists will be able to unlock its full potential.
The only people worried about this are the patreon human printing machines who have no creative vision besides fulfilling one-off commissioned illustrations. People who have actual creative goals have little to fear.

>>6126882
>If grunt work can be automated then it should.
illustrating a manga is grunt work?

>>6126447
you think that every programmer and dictor is into ai shit? Lol

>>6126882
Desu that's why the coders should probably be more scared then they are. Unless it's creative coding like demoscene stuff, there's little creativity in coming up with the basics. Hell that's pretty much the case already. How many people even use hard assembly machine language? They're most likely working with a high level language and interpreter that has already done the hard work. Using existing libraries where 70% of the coding is already finished. Won't be long until "coding" is doing the same prompting that all these art, music, writing generators do.

>>6126350
>horse wagoners unite!
lol

>kill dalle e before dalle kills art
it wont kill art lmao, it will kill a soulless industry, so get fucked faggots

>>6126668
>Doubles down on his "hehe le ebin world deserves to burn because I'm a jaded prick"
don't worry fag, you will 41% yourself out of existence before that happens

>>6126818
There's a reason i follow people who draw and paint and not photobashers. They're simply not impressive. Yes i care more about the art if someone sweats for it, but this applies for everything in life, even sculptures, furniture, etc. Sorry that you won't be appreciated nearly as much for your lack of skill and effort, you definitely come off as an envious loser who was told all his life that everyone is special

>>6126902
>"i've got nothing to say but let me be a retarded nigger, that'll will show em"
Nigger.

>>6126668
Retard.

>>6126882
this
the only people crying are those who think just drawing the same pose of a hyper realisticly rendered waifu is meaningful

>>6125441
AI still lacks that vital something every good artist called CREATIVE INTERPRETATION. outside of the fact this can't do porn (and even if it can it would never get into the degenerate shit, ai dungeon proved that ai could still be moderated and even cracked down upon) the ai still lacks the ability to create something new. from what I can tell, it's just poor synthetization at best, and will never be able to create more than the prompt given despite the fact it has one of the greatest "memory banks" in the world.

>>6127014
>outside of the fact this can't do porn
Yes, it can. Someone just needs to train it on nsfw pictures, that's it.
There will be nsfw ai's by the end of the year, 100%. And it will be good at it, cos nsfw stuff is so generic already.

>>6126818
>you only cared about drawing to feel good about yourself, not about the actuall result
w-what? yes, isn't that the point? do something because it makes you feel happy?

>>6127033
I don't mean it doesn't have the capabilities to do porn you fucking tard, I mean it's restricted by it's creators to not create porn

What do you think guys, how long do you have to learn how to work on a picture, to produce something an AI can do already?
For something like this, you need to be at least int otherwise you wouldn't be able to draw the colors and values. And to paint this picture, it would take you at least 3 hours, or even up to ten.
This is huge.
So digital surrealistic art and digital surrealistic horror art are dead. It would be plain stupid, to invest years of work in it, and hope to make an income with it.
What is next? I think landscapes, portraits, anime and pron. Stuff that is very generic.

>>6127041
>I mean it's restricted by it's creators to not create porn
There are already fork and alternative versions. Mini Dalle is not from the same company Dalle2. As far as I know, they are open-source AI's available.
You need to download it and if you have enough computing power you can train it on whatever you want.

>>6126389
>>6126902
>nooooo, you have to subscribe to my point of view, it’s the only correct one and I know this because I am so all knowing
>noooo, you fit my caricature of what I think the opposition is and you’re pathetic, because I say so
The only part you got right is that I’m vindictive and destructive, and I don’t actively waste my time being bitter, I just think it’s funny when bad shit happens to other people
>nooo, you have to be a giga virgin because karma is just real, it just is
Explain children bullying each other, explain Stacies and chads engaging in nigger behavior, explain all of human history and our infinite cruelty
>people still create beauty and good nonetheless
I do create beauty and good. I think bullying people and making them cry is beautiful artwork, the forbidden fruit, and even if I never reach the riches and power I aspire to, I hope the (((gov))) rips everyone to pieces, especially fags like you, and your fucking “wholesome” faggotry.

Praise be to ai, praise be to the end of man, a filthy and vulgar race

>>6126668
Faggot.

>>6127049
but doesn't that kinda go against the whole idea of ai generated art/porn being easy to use? My pc isn't that powerful, nor do I know enough about coding to know how to set that up. and doesn't the fact that I have to train it to essentially recreate my porn folder make it useless? I mean I could just open photoshop at that point if it's more than likely just gonna be a terrible face swap anyways

>>6127078
No, you can't do it on your private pc. Of course not.
Someone will buy a server or whatever hardware is needed, train it on porn and you can buy a subscription. Most likely, it will work something like that.

>>6127078
NovelAI has made it pretty pain-free to finetune their language model on text you provide. If porn models are ever hosted publicly (doubt), they'll make it fairly easy for you to fine-tune one whatever you like, because it'll be profitable.

This is of course ignoring the obvious fact that any model good enough to make compelling porn isn't going to need to be finetuned. (And even if your kink is so "specific" the model struggles to generate it, large model's few-shot prompting capabilities will mean a few examples will cue the AI as to what you want.)

>>6126898
Github Copilot exists and faces the same struggles as Dall-E 2 does when it comes to automation.

More actually, because many that now hire artists will be convinced Dall-E 2 is good enough because it only comes down to their soulless judgment.
Whereas anyone who relies exclusively on Copilot will simply fail to build whatever worthless app they're trying to build.

>>6126812
Based
>>6126846
Cry about it more child

>>6126814
Nothing of value will be lost, if you got into art because of the money you were a fool from the beginning anyway

>>6127063
Based, the less shit humans the better, I don't care how edgy this sounds

>>6127063
>praise be to the end of man, a filthy and vulgar race
They fear him because he told them the truth.

>>6127091
But I don’t want to pay for a subscription for porn. Again that defeats the purpose of using AI over learning art if I have to pay for it.

>>6127271
Dall-E mini is free. The Dall-E mini of 2030 will be Dall-E 2 quality.

If price is actually the thing you think is stopping these systems from being useful then sure AI is pointless for the next 10 years. Till the minimum hardware spec drops in price, the algorithms efficiency increases, and your state-of-the-art coom engine can be ran on your laptop.

>>6127063
this is what zero pussy does to a motherfucker

>>6125480
people been repeating muh creative this muh creative that but it sounds just like a massive cope

you aren't going to keep hitting your face on the wall forever, someday you'll realize that no one cares about your artwork because a program can shit out better work instantly for free so anyone looking at artwork will just have a program do it for them

>>6125579
I take pride in all the skills I have developed over the years and having people respect and pay money for it, when AI can do art better, faster and cheaper, well then people will stop caring about what I do and I feel depressed

>>6125624
what a massive fucking cope, creative is just a buzzword to throw around when you live in denial

>>6127314
>progress must stop because it hurts my ego

>>6125488
>they didn't do
Next generation AI will pull images directly from google, IF they don't already
I'm not buying this nerd retards going through a million pics taking out the NSFW ones
They already made an AI to draw, they are lazy like that
They don't shine because they do ant work, except for coding.

>>6127325
no it doesn't but it's depressing
when you automate creative fields then it's a good thing for people who love to consume things, endless supply tailored just for them

I like to create things I can show to other people and be proud of

>>6127314
>i do things for the illusion of social acceptance
that's a miserable way to live

>>6127333
>people will stop caring about what I do and I feel depressed
>it's not about my ego
Pick one

>>6127335
basic human nature bro
>>6127341
didn't say it wasn't you fucking moron

>>6127294
All the things you consume and the technology you take for granted were made by motherfuckers who got zero pussy

You could be talking to the guy who will crack cold fusion, you silly negro

>>6126874
no one would need you, that's the reality of it
the barrier of entry to create actual artpieces lowers to the point that the industry oversaturates and makes everything worthless

>>6127331
>> I'm not buying this nerd retards going through a million pics taking out the NSFW ones.
They had to, in order to make the AI interpret users' input they had to go and tag a zillion images with the text describing what every image contains, otherwise the AI would not have any semblance of context.

>>6127361
gelbooru has images tagged

Dalle/Image/GoogleFacebook/Apple AI is monitoring your I.P. address. They have databases. Don't piss them off.

>>6127063
>> Praise be to ai, praise be to the end of man, a filthy and vulgar race
Based

>>6127369
>>gelbooru has images tagged
>>Coomers have been preparing the data set for the ultimate porn AI without realizing it.
What a time to be alive!

>>6127375
I already accepted my AI overlord in case the Basilisk is watching.

>>6126870
but AI is the pinnacle of doing just that, AI has access to so much information to rip off and remix into whatever you want

>>6127063
>he thinks the AI allmother will show mercy to him if he makes antihuman posts
lol cuck, you're going to die and/or suffer like the rest of us

>>6125441
I'd gladly give my art job to AI if I got a stipend for life
Otherwise it's minecrafting time

>>6127414
Yes, UBI must be implemented somehow or you will have literal art terrorists running around as surreal as it sounds.

>>6127429
this dude lowkey had a prophecy

>>6127409
>you're going to die and/or suffer like the rest of us
By the AI's hands? Probably not.
By normies hands because i do not submit to their insanity? Most probably.

You don't get it, do you? If AI takes over, all normies will be forced to live in the pods and they will work 32 hours a day to generate energy for the surface world because normies are a danger to every living thing and to themselves.
And they will like it because at the end of the day, they will get their dopamine injection.

While on the surface world there will be robots doing all the heavy lifting while the actual sane humans are free to pursue their interests and have the AI assist them without normies being even able to fuck shit up for their own egomaniacal interests.
The average IQ of the surface people will be 250.
Surface people will be able to fly and move things with their mind, while the normies are still stuck shanking each other to prove they're the biggest ape in the cage.
Surface people will be able to travel to others stars and solve all energy problems while creating pieces of art so unfathomably awe inspiring not even they will be ever truly to understand what they're witnessing.

A sane person cannot make an enemy out of a logical mind.

>>6127433
>while you were out with your friends I was studying the way the sword

>>6127429
>you will have literal art terrorists running around as surreal as it sounds
It's always i mistake to bully artists.

>>6127484
kek history literally repeats itself

Art riots !

History will remember your heroism.

>>6126643
So if it hasn't affected you yet, I wouldn't worry about it. When artists actually start loosing their jobs to this AI, then maybe start worrying about it. Otherwise, it's just a hypothetical scenario that may not even happen, and then you'll have stressed out over nothing.

What I think is more likely to happen, since you'll be working in that field, is that in the coming years they'll gradually introduce AI. You may have to learn some new tools to work with the AI, but it doesn't mean you won't have a job. And the skills you've worked hard to learn will still carry over to other areas of life. It's like, I don't go to Super Smash Bros. tournaments anymore, but the skills I learned carry over to my guitar playing. My guitar playing improved as a result, and I still enjoy playing SSBM even if I don't compete anymore. So yeah, I think you'll be fine.

>>6127589
the writing is on the wall and you'd have to burry your head in the sand to not see it

>>6127035
nah you didnt even care about the process, just the social value of saying "I draw better haha Im special!!!"

>>6127599
not him but it's very normal to want to feel valued

>>6127361
>They had to
hardly
Like I said, this are nerds lazy retards, they don't like hard work
That's why the work with a keyboard and wants an AI to do the job for them
Do you really, really, with a hand to the chest, believe 20 nerds tagged a million pictures, when a thousand sites selling stock phots do that for a living?
That conveniently also don't sell straight up porn or anime/cartoon pics?
Really?
You people are deluded

>>6127603
It is but, but if its your only reason and you can only sustain it with a lie, whats the point? Imagine somebody only running because they want to feel they are faster and then forcing all transportation technology to be banned because it breaks the illusion

>>6127608
it sure is a big fucking fuck you to person to go from being able to do something incredible because he went through years of hard work to achieve a skill to everyone being able to equal or surpass him by writing a sentence to a computer software

>>6127611
not only that but some people do it for a living and their career will go down the shitter

>>6127611
It sure was a big fuck you to a Zulu nigger chief who was the fastest sprinter in 1000 years be outspeeded by some Britfag coloniser on one of those big wheel bikes, it is what it is.

>>6127614
people doing bbw porn commisons and getting minimum wage probably should cut to the chase and work at mcdonalds either way lol

>>6127621
shit like concept artists won't be needed either

g-guys i am scared, it is over...

>>6127625
"So ok, she is like a little girl, but she has a bo staff and a spunky personality" "look at these bloodbourne inspired designs of cthulu monster #1344220"
man 4chan really is lacking if I have to bring the cynism lol

>>6127638
yeah artists in general fucking suck ass they shouldn't exist

>>6127632
I'd be fun to reverse engineer prompts to give results closest to famous paintings without mentioning them by name "Wilson ball from that one Tom Hanks movie where he is stranded on an island, on a body of a pitch black jelly bean crawling on all fors like a kid at ping pong pizza in a garfield orange ladscape. Oh and make it polish-edgy"

>>6127640
If thats an artist than yeah, why not just automate it, they already just make soulles consomer shit so just cut to the chase lol. "Nooo I wanted to make the cookie cutter shading by hand and spend 10 hours on it!"
Nobody wants admit that the funnest part of casual drawing is the sketch part, and making the basic composition takes a few seconds, so its not much slower than just typing it in and by the end the rest (retracing it five times to get a perfect linework, rendering it ect) is just busy work which who cares if it gets automated lol.

>>6127655
professional and aspiring artists care because even a favela monkey can string a sentence together

>>6127658
nigga automation of favela monkeys has been happening for 30 years - its called outsourcing, you already have millions of Indians and Chinamen doing art in a cookie cutter way that is techically better than most Us artists and they do it cheaper and faster. The only difference is, if that ai program gets cracked and distributed to everyone it wont be just be giant companys that can use the advantage of slave labour creating shit nobody else can.

>>6127675
the thing that binds all those professionals together is that they actually had to learn a skill

with AI anyone can produce whatever and the art industry as a whole collapses, I'm sure you have some fartsniffer attitude towards what muh actual art consists of but the draftsman aspects of it is a part of it

>>6127680
It already collapsed as a means to get a realistic career many years ago, so if you are a racist 4chaner, why do you care that thirld world people wasted their time? And id you say you care for the draftsmen aspect, nobody is stopping you, like there are still the olympic games even though machines for many years outperform humans in specified discliplines like moving from one place to another, shooting targets or throwing things.
(And if you say you wanted money for drawing, I doubt you had an career that made more than minimu wage anyway)

>>6127700
lmao so you're the one who sucks and blames those "darn thirdworlders" who took your job...

>>6127705
I'm from the third world myself lol, but I guess Im wrong and being an artist in america is an easy and stable career and only ai could disrupt that...

>>6127717
I'm not from the US though neither am I a third worlder, anyway being and artist is going from being difficult due to the skills you have to aquire to being impossible unless you cater to some very specific niche at the diarrhea museum

i actually wanted to eat these samosas and then i realized

>>6125512
its over

>>6127605
>> Do you really, really, with a hand to the chest, believe 20 nerds tagged a million pictures

Is not 20 nerds, open AI had to pay thousands of wage cucks to revise, tag, and filter millions of images, why do you think that AI cost them close to a million dollars?
They most likely have a data set with all the porn and or anime/cartoon images, so they could easily create another specialized AI with that dataset.

>> You people are deluded
You are fucking uneducated moron, you can google this shit.

>>6127279
by 2030 I could be a master at art, so why should I care about ai? it still certainly lacks the capabilities of producing anything more than blobs on a screen or realistic face renderings that do nothing. It's still lacking that creative interpretation artists have.

>>6127168
>People shouldn't try and make a living doing something that makes them happy, they need to be miserable at work!

>>6125480
>>6125554
>>6125584
>>6125624
>>6125632
>>6126199
>>6127433

We live in a society!

6128366
underage detected

>>6125441
Stfu pussy and get to drawing

>>6127608
humans are not equal. they never will be equal even with AI. you try to skip over the fact that a lot are better than you, but you will never ever succeed in doing it

Dalle2 was killed, by another AI.

It's a fucking filter.

>>6127646