/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5232823
speaking of coom

>>5232824
Why do you never improve? Aren't you tired of creating shitty work

>>5232848
Cope, seethe, and dilate.

>>5232848
what does improvement look like to you? I wasn't as good a painter a year ago

tit

>>5232823
I love you Fisher

>>5232964
I want to grab that tit

I think I found a better way to paint fabric with a design on it, you paint the design first, then fill in the folds around it afterwards starting with the shadows

better to get colors like pencils, water color pencils, and markers in sets of 24 or sets of 36?

>>5232823
Is that a comfortable position to draw in?

>>5232823

>>5233446
idk it looks without shadows to me, quite flat and unconnected to the figure

What kind of paper is the artist for pic related using?

>>5233577
fucking sick anon love his attire

>>5234385
seems a bit ceased on top, so I assume its some thin sketchbook crap

those tumblr anime drawings are quite horrid

>>5232964
Nice. How long did it take?
>>5233577
Holy shit

Please critique my still life

>>5234962
>Nice. How long did it take?
I finished it in two days, I didn't count how many hours - ten maybe?

>>5234962
Boring, and the flowers look dead.

/beg/ here. How can I ink larger parts more uniform? Any critique and tips appreciated.

>>5234962
has nice paint application, values and I like the pop of saturation. needs a stronger composition and design.

>>5234976
>>5235015
They were dead and how do I make it look interesting?

>>5235343
composition, both color and the regular kind

>>5232824
>>5232850
>>5233446
your brushstrokes give her a skin disease man

>>5234962
Recommend you to tale your time. The strokes look hasty and you use the same brush, speed and attention for anything and everything. This does not give the material (copper and flower) it's own identity. Well the yellow flower has it but it's the wrong choice: Your paint is killing the flower. Too many random and lazy-curved strokes are seen. Some parts within the green are really nice!

>>5235343
Well, certain artists have historically painted dead flowers and rotting fruit in order to make their SL's say something about the time they live in, etc etc.
But why on earth would you paint some dead looking little weeds when you're not Caravaggio?
SL is all about teaching yourself new things; new ways of mixing colours, new compositions, new lighting concepts, how to paint the texture of every damn thing you every come across. So when you paint real live humans in the flesh you aren't fumbling around trying to mix a flesh tone, or the hair colour, or wasting time trying to work out how folds work, or how to paint fur on clothes (or animals), or the how to compress the millions of different patterns and values on that there candlestick or mirror, or window. Then you can progress to painting outside and you only have to contend with wind, flies, people talking to you, the sun going in and coming back out after you've tried to chase the effects and shadows, fruitlessly. But at least you know how to mix the colours, kind of, because you never really painted enough green things, or brown things, or blue things, indoors. And the clouds keep moving, and so do the sheep and cows.
Solve all that and then you're GMI.

(boob)

>>5232823
Has the inevitable shouting started yet?

>>5233577
Nice. Do you have more of your work posted anywhere?

I struggle with how to render big, flat-ish areas like the side of the skull. The jaw I also struggle with, but I like how the face-part came out in this.

I miss doing trad work, but it's all I do now for my classes and it's sucking the soul out of me.
I just want to draw cool stuff again, pic related is something I did for life drawing, not exactly my choice of subject if I'm honest.

>>5235643
this is significantly better than your paintings. Gaahhhh I wish you would blend better

>>5235872
the forehead is collapsed inward

>>5235906
I don’t see it :/

did this like 4 months ago for class. Tired of doing self-portraits.

>>5235958
don't worry, its a common error, and just a matter of paying attention to it. The cranium is surprisingly large, at least on most skulls. Nice rendering though.

>>5232848
ywnbaw

This is it. I’m gonna do it. I’m gonna fucking paint!

...when I wake up, since it’s 4 am. I just did the drawing. I’m doing the Watts gouache thing. How important is the mid value wash he says to start with? I don’t have a big flat brush, I don’t know if I should bother doing it with the round brush I have.

Anyway, wish me luck, I’m gonna post the shitty result when it’s done. I’m gonna be a big boy painter and have paintings that take up space and gather dust.

Also, I’m the Royal Talens guy from the last thread and I just noticed my paper block thing also calls gouache tempera

>>5236003
Not the OP but I thought you were referring to the forms implying concave rather than convex...

Anybody know any good resources for learning how to use alcohol markers?

>>5235643
Why is this dated 2025? I want answers brian

Starting to get into oil painting, for doing an underdrawing do you apply gesso to the canvas before or after the drawing?

>>5235985
>the man doesn't who draw

Tonight's bullshit.

>>5235530
I realised that i try to rush through them. I'll keep that in mind,thank you anon.
>>5235617
I never really looked at it that way. Always thought still life was just something you painted to get an end result in itself. I'll solve all that and make it thank you

>>5236586
I typed all that out, but I do paint and sell lots of still lives. They are an end in themselves as you can use them to experiment, once you have learn to solve all the other problems, which takes years in itself (or forever, more realistically).

>>5236077
Yes, that's how I read it too

>>5236003
Thanks for taking the time to redline it for me, I def see the problem now.
I'll go back and fix it when I have the time and post my progress.

>>5236003
that's not how most skulls look like
especially male skulls will be a lil pointy on top
the forehead is not flat like this but has a pretty clear slope
women forehead are kinda flatter like what you drew

Also, pretty much every shape of skull is acceptable and exists out there

butterfly

now that I've done two of these watercolor things, I am tired from how similar they are
maybe in the future I'll do some frogs or arrange some still life

>>5237170
Looks great. What medium do you usually work with?

This is oil pastels on A3 paper

>>5237195
I use water based paints, haven't tried anything else besides pastels (but I have the soft ones I think, they're very dusty and it's hard to be precise with them)

>>5236634
Blog? Would love to learn from you

>>5236003
I tried lifting the forehead a bit. Better or still too low? I think it might still be too low lol.

I also redid the hatching on the side of the skull and on the jaw, tried smudging some.
It’s difficult to get the values/rendering right, it’s a balancing act of what details to render and where to put contrast and where not to, based on multiple considerations that interplay. Like how do I deal with a receding are like the inside of the socket? Or the side of the skull, how detailed should the hatching be seeing as its an area that’s farther away and out of focus? And should I render all the teeth individually or only bring out certain ones, and if so which ones?

There’s also something about the proportions that feel off to me, the features seem misaligned somehow, but I can’t put my finger on it. :/

>>5237219
These are pretty good

>>5237219
Oh god is Jimmy back?

>>5237659
I think the forehead looks really good now. There are some crazy variations to skulls, like the other anon said, but learning to approach the average skull is a good idea and thats what you were able to do.

As for rendering, it looks really good to me. I don't know if I'll be of much help for you with this.

>>5233571
no

anyone have a “how to mix paint on the palette for absolute certified retards” type guide? I keep contaminating everything and I feel like I’m wasting paint if I have to clean the brush every time I reach into the pure pigments

>>5239084
thinking about wasting paint is pretty much a 100% guarantee for fucking up. when you paint wet into wet you really have to load your brush up with paint, then only do a couple of strokes, or else you start making mud. So youre basically squeezing as much paint into your paper towel as putting on the canvas.

>>5239084

What medium are you using? The solution to this problem is largely paint in tubes plus a palette knife for easy separation. Id est: you place the the paint down in a well on your palette, then use the palette knife to nab a piece of paint like a dab of butter and place it in your mixing area. Then you wipe off the palette knife and use the brush.
You still need to clean brush and knife, but you get less muddy pigments this way.

>>5236156
I’m not messing with you, I promise. Go to ehentai and search for copic. Lots of good books, all image based so you don’t need to know Japanese to get it.

>>5237609

how should i choose color pencils types and brands? there's so many its confusing

>>5240295
Eugh... what is with those brush strokes? Looking at them is like experiencing a seizure.

>>5240818
yeah... I don't really like that one. I did an underpainting of blue for it and painted on top of it and it was still kind of wet, so it muddied up a lot of the color. The reference was pretty much all blue anyways but MEH i don't really like it

posted this in /beg/ as well. gouache paint, only started painting 2 months ago so i don't know what i'm doing. shit on me

face

>>5235643
where do you meet your busty models and how do you get them to pose for you?

>>5240295
unlike most of your paintings the thumbnail doesn't look like anything

>>5240947
He lives with his mom, those are his moms tits and vag that he is always painting.

>>5240867
Eyes are a little wonky, but this looks cool. I'd buy it anyway.

>>5240951
Brian confirmed Gigachad?

>>5240965
i agree. the right eye especially looks wonky to me. thanks anon

>>5232823
Gonna clean this up a bit before I post it. Thoughts?

>>5234987
bigger hat, smaller eyes. and inking? well you can use marker but be cautionus it can get out of hand.

>>5237692
Thaks dude.

>>5240947
onlyfans

puddle is ass, but im happy w everything else

anyone here selling small pieces?
do people buy small (say B5 and smaller) works?
do gouache and watercolor on paper or board have demand, or is it just oil and canvas?

>>5241814
i like this a lot

>>5242349
no I don’t, stop larping as me

>>5241784
painting some bullshit

i painted a cloud

watch phantom of the paradise right now

>>5232976
<3

>>5242718
I fucking love clouds anon good job

>>5241814
I really like how you defined things without using contour lines. Great work!

>>5242833
thanks, i did a nautical kind of landscape with another cloud

Probably where I’ll leave this

>>5232823
I've never bought watercolor tubes, but I found a pack of 20 Winsor and Newton tubes for $35. Is this a good palette to start with?

PW5 Chinese White
PY175 Lemon Yellow Hue
PY97/65 Cadmium Yellow Hue
PY83/PO43 Cadmium Orange Hue
PR254/188 Cadmium Red Deep Hue
PR206 Alizarin Crimson Hue
PV19 Permanent Rose
PV19 Purple Lake
PV23 Dioxazine Purple
PB29 Ultramarine
PB27 Prussian Blue
PB15 Cerulean Blue Hue
PB15/PG7 Turquoise
PY175/PG7 Emerald
PG7 Viridian Hue
PG7/PY139/PB15 Hooker's Green Light
PY142 Yellow Ochre
PR101 Burnt Sienna
PBr7/PY42 Burnt Umber
PBk6 Lamp Black

Just discovered this board tonight

Is there a market for dumb edgy acrylics or should i just bite the bullet and get into oils and landscapes or something
Acrylics is nice to vent with though

>>5243501
W&N are excellent.
Too many colours. What are you painting? Landscapes, portraits?
Most things you can try a triad such PR206, PB29, and Cad yellow hue in your set.
Many things can be painted with just a dark warm and cold, such as burnt sienna and ultramarine. For a lot of practice try just those colours if you are new to watercolour.

Get some W&N artist sable brushes, round size 4, and a larger brush for washes such as Prolene round size 8 or 10. Two decent brushes will do a lot of the work to start with.

every time i finish a painting i get overwhelmingly depressed for a few days

>>5240867
SOUL

>>5244011
never finish anything then

>>5242718
looks really good

>>5244011
I would too.

>>5244175

>>5244628
please. no more muddy colors.

>>5243540
oils are far more beautiful and provide a type of texture to your pieces that you won't get with acrylic. acrylic is good for practicing though

>>5243737
>What are you painting? Landscapes, portraits?
why not both?

>>5243501
sounds good to me anon. really has all you would need

What should I know before using acrylic?

>>5244930
preferably use it as a stepping stone to oil. if you get stuck on acrylic your pieces will look like shite

>>5243501
>hue
>hue
>hue
>hue
>probably something like 8ml cotmans
just buy a limited palette of real pigment

>>5245182
how much canvas was this, anon?
was this a study?

>>5244906
Well, a person painting people portraits indoors probably won't need emerald green, but might need black.

>>5245231
Its on a 16 by 20 canvas board, and yeah! I did it for an oil painting class

just purchased this Oil on Board for $89

>>5234976
Pic related
>>5234962
Love the texture, looks great, unlike the crabs here I know how much non film photos desaturate oil paint.

>>5246471
Oh well.
>>5246489
Wow, you got me.

>>5245805
Was it acrylic? I know it can be hard to make it look good cause I fucking hate acrylic

I painted a rear end

>>5248199
bra-vo mr cumfart

>>5248199
The Francisco de Goya of ass. They’re gonna find your house after you die and all the walls will be covered in ass and titty paintings

India ink, water, pen. how'd I do

>>5248219
interesting, kind of confusing abstraction though, it seems kind of homoerotic which usually is unintentional by an artist (at least it is when I do it)

boobs

>>5248420
Actually getting worse, is this the desired end result?

>>5248430
Yeah pretty much, for these at least. I change my style a lot week to week

>>5248433
Your art is very visually unappealing, but not in a thought provoking way

>>5240867
Pretty good anon, I suggest you only paint in black and white with limited values. Gouache are pretty good for that. Master values.

>>5243010
Hey anon Why don't you use transparent darks? And why not use a big brush.

>>5248477
i want to emphasize the flatness of images, while maintaining form following brushstrokes (among other things)

>>5236003
Can you redline this skull

>>5248477
also big brushes are just kind of boring...

i want to use color pencils to color my characters, which color pencils would be my best bet

>>5248475
yes I'm going to do some value studies in b/w to figure my shit out. gouache is hard and i'm retarded

>>5232824
that looks fucking great
>>5232848
what the fuck is wrong with you? calm down

>>5248481
Try using more more saturated colours in shadows which are very close to the value of light side to make it look flat. No hate but the muddy Color look is very unappealing. Some of your art where it's toned down is very pretty

Project for an etching, im thinking of making the nearest figure sit on her knees, what do you think bros

Still life composition studies

>>5241814
You inspired by Booth?

Any recommendations on good oil colors to get? I've started from a standard set of mostly prime colors, plus burnt sienna. Thinking of getting some Phtalo turqouise to complement my ultramarine and primary blue. What's a good red and yellow to get to complement primary ones?

>>5249824
What reds I use depend on what I'm painting.
I don't paint a lot of landscapes right now, but when I was, I'd use an earth red or two, but have ditched those for flowers and skin tones.
I use mostly cad red light, cad red, and carmine as a AC replacement. Will break out magenta for some flowers.
Yellows, apart from earths, cads, very very rarely Indian yellow, although it does get you fabulous green and turquoises with blues.

>>5249855
Ok, thanks. Cads seem generally to be more expensive, but I assume the reason is they are better.

>>5249979
Some people have opted to swap them out for 'eco' reasons these days, but their pigment is high and they are opaque, which is generally what you want unless you want to do glazing.
If you want to paint 'alla prima' rather than Old Master style with a dead layer etc, then opaque's are the most useful. But I keep earth colour which are transparent for the early stages, as they dry fast, and sometimes viridian. Viridian and transparent oxide red make a fantastic dark, good for flowers, landscapes and figure/portraits.

>>5250003
Makes sense. I'd probably go for a cad yellow and maybe a cad red, depending on the prize.

After some time doing the Watts gouache course, I am pretty sure I got the wrong brushes.
He recommended Robert Simmons synthetic brushes (only descriptor he gave is “short handle, brown with gold tip”) and said watercolor brushes are too nice and soft and you need something harder. I’m got some van gogh watercolor brushes since they were the only synthetics in the shop and were cheap, but I think I’m fighting the brush too much, his barely give on any stroke, mine feel like pentel brushpens.
I can’t find the Robert Simmons brushes anywhere, and I’m in Europe, are there any cheap(ish) brushes I should look for? I found 2 (two) of Robert Simmons brushes on Amazon, and that’s it.
I’d go to feel out the brushes, but the van goghs I got felt very firm too before I put them in water

Hungover as shit.

Hungover as shit

>>5250811
for gouache you could probably go for brushes designed for acrylic. dunno about watts but generally gouache doesnt have a lot of washes and is applied with only a touch of water to dampen the brush and help application.

>>5250832

>>5250880
It's just acrylic.

>>5250890

>>5250811
>After some time doing the Watts gouache course
>>5250880
>for gouache you could probably go for brushes designed for acrylic
>>5250896
>It's just acrylic.
The fuck are you on about? Anon said it's a Gouche course.

>>5250811
Just use synthetic brushes. They are firmer.

>>5234385
Who did you copy? (shiyashima who?) also nice work, anon

>>5248219
it's a nice style, keep it up

>>5249996
the lighting works really well
maybe clean up the brushstrokes and make everything less muddy looking

Tradbros, how have you chosen to study Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist?
Have you gone chapter by chapter, beginning with the skeleton and working your way through each section by chronological order? Or do you use the book as a reference guide whenever you're stuck on something? Which approach would you recommend to a /beg/ger with a decade's load of bad drawing habits?

Recent watercolor stuff

>>5251172

>>5251174
An ink thing I did as well

>>5251172
>>5251174
>>5251176

Very nice. The first two give me a Herge type-of feeling.

>>5235889
Nice. Well made and I like the angle

>>5249676
nice. love how they pop

>>5232823
Anyone know any good websites or YouTube channels to learn watercolor?

id like to get into watercolour

>>5250991
they don't hold water, so you're gonna get random splotches
but yeah, don't use one of those ultra soft sable brushes, go for something firmer

>>5251079
they don't hold water, so you're gonna get random splotches
but yeah, don't use one of those ultra soft sable brushes, go for something firmer

>>5251464
whatever you do, don't follow any of those retarded tutorial videos on youtube
you'll end up making soulless postcards

>>5251464
>>5251517
Guy I know sprays his canvas with a spray bottle of water. I think he does it for the backgrounds. Creates a nice washed out effect.

>>5248483
can I get a redline on this please
I think the jaw is too short

>>5251622
>>>/beg/

>>5248483
>the incel skull

Good morning, /ic/!

I have some soon that I wish to upload. Sadly it comes in a collection, so I will bake a new bread and break it ITT.

As always, my apologies, and Ca(na)r(r)y on the Day S(S)trong.

Regards,

>>5242718
I really like it man!

>>5242803
nice!

>>5251674
try studying human proportions, the individual elements look good though

>>5251816
yeah I'm watching this Proko video on measuring now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

Seethe @ my friends superior drawing skills

>>5251830
while the rendering is photorealistic, the snout is pointing in a different direction that the top of the head

>>5251837
I knew you’d seethe

Actually can’t unsee this now. I’ve been waiting for the right picture of his to buy. Now I want leopard smush nose. Ty :)

>>5251837
>>5251842
Imagine spending 100 hours on something, only for it to be ruined because you can't do basic construction. This is why we do fundamentals instead of copying photos like an autist.

>>5251847
Who is this “we” you are talking about? Who else are you speaking on behalf of? And show me one of your “100 hour” works pls.

>>5251626
not very helpful

Phil hale studies

>>5251837
>>5251847
the absolute state of /ic/ “critique”

>>5251958
Are you blind? it's not an exact copy, the changes in values/shape/angles add up to it looking weird. Even if you trace, you need to have the ability to do that.

>>5251967
>t. beg
redline it

>>5251968
Why don’t you just watch the video of it being created?

Tbh the critique you intended as some kinda “gotcha” ended up being a massive compliment.

He didn’t trace. It was done free hand. I’ve watched him do many. He’s just actually kinda good at it.

>>5251977
did you quote the wrong post or are you an esl?

>>5251967
For what it’s worth, you are correct. You have a good eye.

I don’t blame the gif maker for thinking it’s a digital/traced. I think only someone with a trained eye would notice the details in why it’s not.

>>5251978
I’m so esl I don’t know what esl even is

And yeah, wrong person :( sorry

>>5251847
>>5251958
>>5251967
>>5251968
>>5251978

I’m too dumb/high to understand what you guys are even saying.

I’m not an artist. I don’t know your artist lingo. I was actually just super proud of my friend and wanted to show him off a bit. I’m sure you guys have friends who feel the same for you and your work.

If you were complimenting, thank you.
If you were criticising, thank you also.

Genuinely cannot distinguish. I think I am esl. Not esl, but 4chansl for sure.

>>5251977
I just looked at the videos on youtube.
Every single picture has a traced under drawing. The same as 99% of youtube artists/ all artists. I do it sometimes for speed, but I can paint without too. Don't make out your 'friend' is some genius, they're just average.

>>5252024
I don't get tracing, if I ever do something like that it's to mark down proportions, then I draw from reference within them. And even that's a sacrifice for speed, as a good understanding of what you're drawing and tweaking it to your liking is far superior.

>>5252034
Yes that's what I mean, I mark off a few key points to save on making adjustments.
I'm painting a 50x70 cm canvas now with figures outdoors, where I didn't, just went ahead and winged it, it just takes a little longer, but it depends on what I'm doing.

>>5252024
I’ve never seen him trace an original image once.

I’ve only ever seen him use boxes. Like a grid on his reference, a grid on his page. Does that.

Maybe you’ve seen him drawing over that image. But he’s never traced over an original image in all the years ive watched him make art.

Again, if that’s what you’re accusing him of, I take it as a massive compliment.

>>5252034
> I don’t get tracing

Then goes on to list all the times he traces.

>>5252070
jesus christ dude, you're clearly not his "friend" but the painter of dog abortions himself
take it easy

>>5252058
Show, don’t tell.

painted a quick portrait

>>5252078
mate, this is like the third time you’ve made an incorrect assumption. Pls just stop.

>>5251674
Proportions is the main thing that is off in this. The rendering is nice enough.

>>5252080
am I an impressionist yet?

>>5252080
are these live models? where do you find all these hot women to draw?

>>5252282
the impression you give me is that youre bad at painting so...yes?

>>5252320
He pays them on onlyfans.
Yes really.

>>5252329
to meet in person? Seems pointless if they're still on your computer screen.

>>5252372
Just on a screen.

>>5252329
>>5252372
>>5252411
>not realizing that brians sole aim in life is to try to pick up women by wearing a beret and a scarf and calling himself an artist

if you really believe he has the capacity to learn anything, youre new here

>>5252413
Well aware of that.

>>5252413
I mean... isn’t that what every dead famous artist did

>>5252413
I feel like I’m trying to go for the “Janitor That’s Secretly Talented” vibe.

Pastel portrait of my father, I really love pastels.

>>5251176
>>5251174
>>5251172
Lovely work! What's your process and materials? did you use a reference?

>>5251211
I agree!

almost done, note the paint around the sides etc gotta fix but the charactes and most of the background is done. Have I impored, any better than this, this was 4 months ago?

also what do you think of my metal textures? I know my female physique is off.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JUDmFZU