/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>Animation Thread Discord
https://discord.gg/KxKH48h

>>5192340
AHHH

>>5192340
Big fucking milkers

>>5192340
BOOBA

>>5192340
UGH UGNGNGNGN I HAVE TO MASTURBATE NOW!!!!!!111

>>5192340
Where/what should you recommend i start learning animation?
I’ve been thinking making short loop gifs for a start either sfw or nsfw.
Im also planning to buy the CSP (not the pro one), i’ve noticed theres also many tutorial videos in their home page for tools

>>5192340
MOMMY

>>5192565
Some would recommend you Animator's Survival Kit, indeed it is as good as people say. Also if you're learning CSP, you can search Naoki Yoshibe's book on /ic/archive (search his name). He teaches you how to make animation on CSP EX, also you can download the CSP materials he created from the site too. By the way, CSP Ex is cracked and you can find it on /ic/ archive as well. But if you want to support celsys, I recommend waiting until they have another big sale (maybe in March/April).

>>5192582
Very much appreciated, anon
Thank you for your words and time

I currently drawing on ipad with Apple Pencil and medibang paint, not sure if theres a cracked one for the csp for ipad

What’s the best place to get started learning how to make fight scenes?

Everybody should watch out to bump this thread. Animation is a lot of work so work is posted less frequently, and theres less people animating than just drawing illustrations. Also, most of us probably have this pinned so theres no way to tell when its about to die other than the amount of hours since the last post. I think around ~10 hrs is a good time to bump

>>5192598
Oh, you're on iPad? Then the materials from the book probably wouldn't work on mobile app, I use trial version on my S6 lite too so we're on the same boat. I kinda hate the idea of subscribing plan though. But still, maybe it's worth it if you don't have pc/laptop. Komugiko2000 even made his animation short movie and MVs on iPad.
https://youtu.be/c8Ia-1TTY1I

>>5192602
I would recommend getting a gengashuu so you could learn from it, like Yutaka Nakamura's animation work. Planning to buy it if once I got money.
But then again, you could grab materials for free from sakugabooru too, watching video and action movies for reference is also important. Lastly, maybe you should try posting your work on twitter as to catch the community's attention, from there you probably could get many friends from ZettaiAbsolute circle who can teach you more.

>>5192613
How much do Gengashuu tend to go for? Especially if I’m interested in Yutaka Nakamuras or Norio Matsumotos works?

>>5192684
Sadly, there is no Norio Matsumoto's gengashuu. But I'll try to remember if there's any gengashuu with Norio's KA in it.

Yutapon's gengashuu is around 41 USD + shipping. Amazon shipping cost is real bitch, even shipping to SEA cost me around 20 bucks alone before tax, which will cost me another extra 10 bucks, well at least they use DHL and it's extra fast, like 3-6 days to my place. But it's kinda understandable since Animestyle gengashuu is real thick. I have Mitsuo Iso's gengashuu volume 2, it's real thick and Yutapon's is even thicker. It's b4 size and about 3 cm thick. Plus it has two flipbooks, which is amazing. I have to buy from yahoo auction for Mitsuo Iso's gengashuu + flipbook, costed me like 70 usd, so yeah, I'm broke right now.

>>5192684
Also, mandarake is great place if you're looking for used stuff. The shipping cost is also cheaper and I didn't even get taxed. Bought FLCL gengashuu and Star Driver gengashuu from there, only costed me around 60 USD including shipping for two books. That's a steal desu.

>>5192340
it is a crime that it is not a perfect loop

almost looked past this thread because of the coomer OP, good to see it back up though

>>5192340
booba..

>>5192613
>>5192582
ilu

finally done with this, hakkero layouts took forever

>>5193174
Just so happen to be listening to this when I clicked on your animation.

>https://youtu.be/G3Bj0NSqR_U

>>5192340
BREASTS

>>5192340
OPPAIIII

Can anyone tell me how to make character looks consistent like this?
https://twitter.com/studio_sleepman/status/1358718287031332865?s=20

Do you go from rough LO -> revision (adding lineart) -> revision again (adding color) and so on? What I dread the most is if I can't adapt to new character design fast enough and keep it consistent.

>>5192607
Noted

/ic/ mods are so fucking lazy.

>>5193592
>implying /ic/ has any mods

>>5193592
People have to report rule breaking in order to get results.

bump
besides the obv stuff what are some basics that beginner animators should look out for
how does one animate faster AND smoother?

>>5193836
>smoother
more inbetweens and smear frames would be a start correct?

>>5193174
very moody

>>5193174
I just want you to know that I love this anon. Great work.

>>5193592
I don't know what you're talking about, they delete every wojak poster I report

anyone interested with pitching in some money to scan Yutaka Nakamura's gengashuu (or any gengashuu)?

>>5192340
I really need to start storyboarding/planning out things when I animate.

>>5194124
I think it would look nicer if you move around his right shoulder and shift around his body too.

>>5193174
looks awesome dude

>>5194124
It’s nice, the torso and legs should turn around just after the head so slightly. It’ll give more weight to the motion

>>5194114
bump. Some gengashuu that I already have:
>Mitsuo Iso Animation Works 2
>Dennou Coil gengashuu
>FLCL gengashuu
>Star Driver gengashuu

There are also some rare secondhand gengashuu that I have been eyeing on but too expensive, like 8500 yen (around 82 USD) a piece. I wish I got doujin translation commission more so I can spend money without feeling guilty though. Oh, also there is secondhand book "sakuga no kihon" or "the basic of animation" too on my mandarake cart.

animating head first allows for a lot smoother shit

>>5195307
oh, forgot that I also have Tetsuya Takeuchi's SAO 2 gengashuu

https://twitter.com/Xenophoss/status/967660799761137664

You told me Asian jeans was a meme! This can't be happening! I'm in charge here!

>>5195399
https://twitter.com/mhdart89/status/1359350213614448642?s=19

Whiteybros... we lost. We kneel to PoC overlords.

>>5195399
>>5195428
Shut the fuck up gringo

>>5195661
Whiteybros...

This might be a long shot but does anyone have Imai Arifumi's Attack on Titan book?

>>5195923
The first book is sold out everywhere. I want to buy the second book but still waiting until I get new translation commissions. I kinda regret that I didn't buy it while they're still in stock.

>>5195879
we lost.

anyone here animating on non screen display tablet?

>>5192340
Sex

Thread ruined. I hate this board.

>>5196280
wacom bamboo here. i'm pretty sure most people on this board use a non screen graphics trablet

>>5196560
be the change

Even the animation threads are coom threads now.
fuck this board

why do you want me to be constantly horny :(

>>5197046
it's just a drawing, right?:)

>>5195329
Timing is real good, shits hard to do right proud of you babe. I think you could strengthen your posing a bit.

anyone making animation on android tablet's/iPad's CSP here?

>>5196280
huion q620m represent

>>5197023
fuck off to reddit then

Any software that lets me import photoshop files (or anything else) with the layers being converted to individual frames?
I hate drawing in programs i'm not used to, would rather just have something i can throw a file at to make it move

>>5197791
Just get an editing software if that’s what you want it do. I’m pretty sure you can animate with photoshop.

>>5194929
>>5194253
Yea thanks for the advice, might redo the whole thing except for the head turning animation.

>>5197791
just do it in photoshop you ape. make a timeline frame animation, all the layers should have propagate frame 1 turned on in the layer panel. first hide the layers you're going to use in frame 1 then toggle propagate off. basically anything on frame 1 you don't want to copy over to the other frames. you only have to do it for the layers you want to show from frame 1 so you dont have to worry about toggling propagate off on every layer, just the layers on the first frame.

>>5197804
>you can animate with photoshop.
you can, but it's a massive pain. I've tried it.

>>5197822
It really isn't but ok

>>5196280
Did my first paid gig on this bad boy.

>>5196668
>>5197631
>>5198221
oh, so I wasn't alone. I'm really considering to buy screen once I get better and get used to screen display (have s6 lite atm, but screen is a bit small). Also, what software do you use? Anyone using CSP? What does your workspace look like? I tried Yoshibe's workspace and Striving for Animation's workspace since it's the closer to industry standard.

/ic/, u proud?

>>5199479
POOPA

is there a western version of settei dreams with character references for cartoon characters?

>>5199607
Not sure but booru has a bit of western settei
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=settei+western+

Well, the folks at world animation discord (the one ran by ibcf and animegolem) probably have more stuff.

>>5199607
https://characterdesignreferences.com/art-of-animation

>>5199479
Yes

>>5199479
God damn the number of times i nutted to your wobbly asses.

is this work flow shit?
>make around 2-4 compleate drawings per shot as key frames
>do really shitty inbetweens till the timing and motion and feel right and finish those

>>5199479
Blog?

>>5193174
neat

https://streamable.com/9bmfi3
https://streamable.com/3b2uar
These are the last things I worked on, just been taking a break to work on other stuff

Anyone has street fighter sprites?

>>5193174
I'm in love with you

>>5195399
>>5195428
https://twitter.com/MitchJGonzales/status/1360389909362663427?s=19

whiteybros... we got too cocky.

Anyone know how to get Adobe Animate for free?

>>5202188
pirate it? I get my copy from here
https://www.bagas31.info/2019/10/adobe-character-animator-2020.html

I cant stop looking at OP booba

>>5201899
>Anyone has street fighter sprites?

>Video Game Sprites and Gifs Collection
https://mega.nz/folder/D5MEDQRA#IVsQs-bxlwFCPN80PyluVA

>Street Fighter 3 sprites (zweifuss)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/xrxb552afj36ng1/Street_Fighter_3_sprites_%28zweifuss%29.zip/file

>Street Fighter 3 gifs (zweifuss)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hyy6xwjke1rzyum/Street_Fighter_3_gifs_%28zweifuss%29.zip/file

>Marvel vs. Capcom 2 sprites (aokmaniac13)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2lxepbij4vffyrz/Marvel_vs._Capcom_2_sprites_%28aokmaniac13%29.zip/file

>Marvel vs. Capcom 2 gifs (fightersgeneration)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/o7tag4ago844bhu/Marvel_vs._Capcom_2_gifs_%28fightersgeneration%29.zip/file

>Scott Pilgrim vs. the World The Game gifs (Paul Robertson)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/uwj5282nk4toeq3/

>The King of Fighters XIII sprites (aokmaniac13)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3maq19cfaeo3zb5/

>The King of Fighters XIII gifs (cardinalperception)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jsobeq6okwmaxkz/

>Guilty Gear XX sprites (Xenozip and Blip)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/d3d6y858dokb44c/

>Cuphead pencil test gifs (Jake Clark)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/yow0kz8d410rgku/

>Honeyview image viewer
https://en.bandisoft.com/honeyview/

>7GIF (frame-by-frame gif viewer)
http://www.xtreme-lab.net/7gif/en/index.html

>>5202341
I feel you, Fujii Shingo is really talented.
https://twitter.com/monsuun/status/1358570097044983811?s=20

Is there anywhere I can learn to animate stuff like this?

>>5203198
Animator's Survival Kit
Character Animation Crash Course

>>5201556
cringe and unfinished

Watched this on wednesday and it reminded me why I wanted to animate after feeling drained at my college
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4U9Ygtxh8
Remember to always recharge for your inspirations all you anonymouseses

>>5203326
Classic /ic/ response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RT_hNv4KOY&feature=youtu.be

I wanna get into nsfw animation but i still have a lot to learn

>>5203663
can't tell if it's the guy moving his hips or the girl, or perhaps both are doing it at the same time? that looks hurt though, I suggest it's just one persn thrusting while other stand still, either the guy or the girl, and make it slower when the dick goes balls deep.

>>5203580
nice

>>5203677
they're both moving their hips lol. thanks for the suggestion. This was actually after I made it slower lol, i guess i need to pay more attention to the speed in my stuff in general

>>5163263
>>5167594
>>5169854
Blogs?

why arent timing charts called spacing charts

>>5202579
>>Honeyview image viewer
can it view the other animated files frame by frame? 7GIF is limited to gif

>>5203918
I don't think there are any animated files in that collection other than gifs. If you're thinking of webms, PotPlayer has a frame step function.

>>5203979
>webms
yeah I was thinking of webm and webp
I'll take a look at potplayer, thank you

>>5204032
>I'll take a look at potplayer, thank you
D - previous frame
F - next frame

does anyone know where I can find more samples such as these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa-bsONhIBI

examples that shows the breakdown starting from the storyboard, to the layout then to the finished composed product

Masaaki Iwane's streaming right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uldAm_6XWs

>>5203912
tomato tomato, no one really cares, call it what you want, its the same idea

>>5204170
>kurisuta
based

>>5195923
you're still looking for that book bro?

>>5203912
it's a conspiracy

What's the cheapest way to "animate" something? the cheapest animation possible?
Is it that squash and stretch done in Adobe Effects I see in MnFClub, 2D porn and TigTone?
I'm a good artist, but animating takes too much time. I only need something that pretends to move and looks a little appealing.
What's a good way to automatically animate something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cHZz4-6aw

>>5204111
maybe not broken down to that degree but I know sakuga accounts on insta sometimes post the roughs next to the finished anim. As for full breakdowns I think you'd need to either dig deep or look for animators who work on popular shit that regularly post on youtube like guzzu or smth

>>5192340
I have a feeling I'm gonna get called an idiot and directed to one of the OP links but how do you properly sync audio with your anim? I vaguely remember something like flash letting you import audio and play it at the same time as the video but I haven't used flash since I was 12 and I'm using csp ex now so idk if audio importing is even something I can do

bumpu

Would a light table be a good investment? If so, what would be a good one to buy / invest in?

>>5204896
Richard Williams talked about something called an X-sheet. Maybe look into that?

>>5204973
ty but it looks like I'd need some way to sync audio with frames regardless. Tbh I might just use flash 2004, import audio, use an x-sheet to sync syllables with frames and then switch to CSP for the actual animating

>>5193174
Amazing Work Anon. Well done!!

>>5204896
You can import audio into CSP, it's what I did for
>>5201556
No audio scrubbing but it's better than nothing

>>5205212
damn, I'll look at a tutorial then since I'm too stupid to figure out where the setting is lol. Thanks though, this helps

>>5199479
seriously tho, blog?

>>5205893
https://twitter.com/18DART1

>>5205898
thanks

going to buy Yutapon's incompleteness/miracle book and one extra gengashuu, what should I get? Rolling Girls gengashuu or Miru Tights gengashuu+settei (production materials)?

behold and cower, i have made my first animation.

now time to cope with the fact that i am too lazy fucking /ic/tard to make anything more than 2 second loop.

Just started posting my animations, please follow me ;_;

https://twitter.com/Applesnaxxx

>>5206565
the legs sorta pull attention from the tits since they both bounce for the exact same amount of time, plus the legs don't really have any proper slowdown so it kinda feels like they're on springs or something. This looks good tho, you're already better than like 90% of official hentai animation for understanding how gravity affects breasts lol

>>5206565
i think it looks great i hope you add more inbetweens my only issue is that dick bending downward

animation student here, working on stuff for fun inbetween college stuff

college is pushing us to find remote work experience. been getting radio silence from any of the smaller studios ive contacted, and a couple of "no" answers from others, because nobody wants to take students during a pandemic (remote or not). yall got any ideas for animation work placement? im lost

>>5198441
I use CSP, with whatever the default animation workspace is (timeline on bottom, layers on right, tools on left)

>>5207979
I finished my studies last year and have been applying since august. Nothing so far. only two studios seemed interested. In the end they turned me down because of covid. depending on where you are from you could also look for layout/editing work. life is a bitch.

>>5206565
Holy shit fucking ZONE followed me. Now I have to keep doing this.

>>5207979
>>5208694
I'm a neet and just started learning animation seriously, if you guys who went to animation school have a hard time finding jobs I seriously dread my future...

>>5208778
Godspeed brother. Don't let the pressure get to you.

>>5197023
Blame the coomsoomers wanting but coom. Illustrative coom, concept coom, animation coom, graphic design coom, etc. the whole nine yards of coom.

>>5208694
I might look into layout/ editing, thanks. Was really hoping for some animation work (even grunt work) just so I could add something to my resume/ portfolio but at this point I'm starting to not give a fuck. Best of luck with the job hunt my man

>>5208814
You'll be alright. The only reason I chose my college over others was because they boasted a really good hiring rate after graduation, plus a shit ton of industry connections (the quality of their teaching fluctuates wildly though). But currently, nobody is getting shit. It's nothing to do with education or skill- the current dip in employment is all down to the pandemic. Don't panic any more than you were previously panicking

bumping this

dumb question but how does an animator measure the length of a short before animating? lets say I want to animate something that is following the beats of music, how do I set up a big "canvas" that has all the key points with the music then start to animate on top of that?
or rather how do I know how much time my frames are taking, how to shorter or enlarger the time etc

>>5211090
The standard frame rate for animation is 24 frames per second.

>>5211090
I'm not sure exactly what your question is. If you're animating something exactly to music, your timing is determined almost entirely by the bpm of the song and when notes occur in the music.
For more complex actions, you can simply act it out yourself (or film yourself at 24fps) and count frames.
You can also scrub through the audio and mark down when accents/actions/keyframes should occur. Almost all your keyframes will be on downbeats.
For sync, animate dead-on to the music, and when you're done at the very end try shifting the visuals earlier than the music by one or two frames. Usually looks better.

For motion graphics/digital work that's not frame-by-frame and gets interpolated by After Effects, a dirty trick I like to use is to set the framerate to something "weird" that's a clean multiple of the bpm. The renderer will interp to 60fps at final export. e.g. drum and bass at 175 bpm -> 175/60 beats per seconds ->35 fps, 12 frames per beat. This has the benefit of no sync drift, and actions on 16th notes and triplets are very easy to time at 3/4 frames respectively.

>>5211090
I'm gonna assume whatever program you use has audio scrubbing, so just import the audio you want and boom, it'll not only show you how many frames the audio takes up but you'll also be able to just go through the audio and listen so you can create keys on beats.

>>5211090
> how do I set up a big "canvas" that has all the key points with the music then start to animate on top of that?
do you mean an animated storyboard?
most storyboarding specific software ive used in the past lets you drag the length of drawings to be shorter or longer, and import a background track. Pic related (not my work).
You can get a rough idea of the timing of your animation that way, just by eyeballing it. look into storyboarding software, or do your animated storyboard in your animation program, or do it the old fashioned way on paper and time those boards to music later with editing software.
then, import your animated storyboard video into your animation software. break it up into each shot by cutting up your animatic.
that way, youll be able to animate each shot in its own file, and when you stitch them all together again in the edit, the timing/ amount of frames will be the same as your animated storyboard.
Just make sure your storyboard is the same fps as your animation- dont export your storyboard at 25fps and try to animate at 24 fps because you'll fuck your timing

>>5211135
seconding this, this is all great. shifting the visuals a frame or two earlier is a great bit of advice especially.

>>5211099
So every second should have 24 frames? and then make enough frames to fill a minute, and so on, right?
>>5211135
Im aware of your advice but I just don't know how to keep track on time, say I want to make a 1 min short, do I start animating from scratch then see if I get the min mark? or there are tools to help you with that, digital animation btw

>>5211684
thank you! this is what I was asking for, what sofware is that?

bird shitpost I animated, please see >>>/wsg/3799415 for sound/the actual joke

>>5211719
Read the Animator's Survival Kit.

>>5211816
thanks

obligatory bump

>>5211723
This is Storyboard Pro. You can do the same with an ordinary animation program or editing software too, you don't necessarily need Storyboard Pro or any other fancy tool.

COMMISSION:

I am looking for someone to do a simple animation of an explosion of blood turning into this image. So it will all be in the same color. I would ideally like three of these (two more final blood images will be provided). The blood would be coming from a single source above the splat, you can imagine someone is standing there and then gets blown up, blood flies in all directions and splats onto the ground creating the image depicted in pic related.

Add me on discord: Tav#5667
Or provide me with some means with contacting you in your reply. But I might not check this thread before it's archived

>>5197023
welcome to the internet, anon.

Testing some background art style for my bun animations.

https://twitter.com/barkel_tom/status/1362239213014425605

Titan Eren vs Great Ape Vegeta

>>5214117
? so

>>5214120
kys

>>5214127
stay mad kid

>>5214153
kys

>>5214154
mad

>>5214161
stfu bitch

>>5214117
I really like how that animation is going, every little detail adds up so much; are you the artist, anon?

>>5192607
Shut up

>>5214117
Were you in the last thread anon? I think I remember somebody posting WIPs of something similar. Looks fantastic

I'm a quarter of the way through The Animator's Survival Kit and I'm still struggling with understanding how to apply the basic concepts. What resources do you guys recommend to help reinforce what I'm reading, and to be able to apply it practically?

>>5214416
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=8F6B98CAE38A32A3FBFE7666EA72D8F5

>>5214453
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look around for the files, as sadly, there's no one seeding it.

>>5214686
http://libgen.gs/ads.php?md5=8F6B98CAE38A32A3FBFE7666EA72D8F5

bumpu

I did this a while back based from yotsube's animation pdf. Are camera shakes done with just slightly shifting the canvas? or are there other ways to do it?

>>5214248
>>5214215
I don't think Tom Barkel browses this thread, also that anon who posted AoT wip was posting Warhammer titan and it was very rough, not in this scale.

>>5215998
This looks sick!

>>5216049
Oh yeah, thanks. I remembered something of a similar theme but wasnt sure

>>5215998
Love this, the way the character pulls forward with his shoulder and the sudden snap to the punch is really really nice. I feel like the pull back after the punch could be snappier, but its really solid
I've only ever done camera shakes by shifting the canvas/ camera but theres probably a way to do the same thing in after effects or some shit

>>5215998
thats cool.

>>5215998
>yotsube
What's this pdf?

What? Post more fetish porn? Ok, if you insist.

>>5215998
I like it

>>5216084
>>5216676
>>5217669
thanks!

>>5216535
ah that's what I've been doing too. I'm not too fully familiar with csp yet nor have I used AE but I was under the impression there's may be a ready filter fx for camera shake lol

>>5216790
I don't remember the full japanese title but it's something like Naoki yoshibe Works - Short Animation course CSP. I got it from the artbook threads. There's a page innit that I based the punching gif from

>>5216790
this is the cover

>>5217967
looks like it's no longer in the mega anymore. want to upload it to catbox or myairbridge?

>>5217991
it's on https://hunmer.github.io/List-of-drawing-tutorials/#
click the search bar and type アニメーション it should show up on the results

>>5216676
very chomp me like

>>5216790
Yotube, that's his nickname in twitter. His real name is Naoki Yoshibe, the one who made Jojo OP.

>Short Animation Making Course - Naoki Yoshibe works by Clip Studio Paint Pro/Ex (PDF, 69.2 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2m0bfciiywy3b0j/Animation_with_CLIP_STUDIO_PAINT_PRO_EX.pdf/file

Also you can download the materials in the book too. the password and guide can be found in the book. I made a simple guide before:
https://archived.moe/ic/thread/5102566/#q5147002

bird man?

https://motorpen.com/a/K1T7M

>>5218412

>Naoki Yoshibe sakuga animation video examples
http://www.mediafire.com/file/clbtw4h1lh5fgtp

>Naoki Yoshibe sakuga animation gif examples
http://www.mediafire.com/file/56ucg1qdro6cj8t

>7GIF (frame-by-frame gif viewer)
http://www.xtreme-lab.net/7gif/en/index.html

>>5218488
I did that, more people should use the site more.

>>5218991
as online animation tools go i prefer to use this https://flipanim.com/beta

>>5218412
although this looks like a really useful book idk how to read moonrunes, how do I get any value out of this other than guessing what he means based on the pictures?

>>5219006
It has a lot more tools available, but I love how lightweight motorpen is, plus it works on my browser.

anyone using Animation Paper?

>>5220215
I like it but it's annoying you can't export to video yet.

WHERE CAN I FIND GOOD REFERENCES FOR WINGS FUCK

I have a winged humanoid character that needs to be animated, and I'm struggling hard to give my animator some good references for flapping/stretching of the wings.

>>5221647
I don't know your standards and this advice will probably not be helpful since it's so obvious that I can't believe you didn't.
But have you tried typing 'animator wing reference' into your image search engine?
Or 'animation fly cycle', or on youtube 'bird flying slow motion', or the many possible variations of key words?

Somebody crack TVPaint 11 already.

If I am building rigs in ToonBoom, do I need seperate rigs for each view or should all the views be in one rig?

>>5201556
I like how each beat of the dialogue has a distinct pose.

>>5202188
Pirate ToonBoom instead.

>>5203912
Spacing is the change between frames, timing is the number of frames. There can be more than one spacing within a given timing. This principle is where easing comes from.

>>5208814
I dreaded my future years before art school. Art school won't make it worse.

>>5222276
Thanks! I've been watching a lot of other people's animation and I'm thinking I can get away with doing it a bit less (as in holding poses for longer)
Doing it how I've been doing it runs the risk of overacting
Just something for me to try in the next project

>>5222306
Watch some clips of stage plays. That's the kind of acting you want to take inspiration from. Big dialogue delivery is a major part of good plays.

Was this ever scanned and shared before?

>>5222458
Yes, look up on
>>5218015
Or 13dl or exhentai

>>5222458
Nvm it's on sadpanda

>>5222525
Thanks m8 i just found a copy there too.

Do animators use a skeleton/mannequin abstraction to rough in the character model? I've been advised to do this in my class but when I look at Richard Williams and Eric Goldbergs books they either don't use them or they advise against using them because it makes the characters too rigid (something 3D has to actively avoid).

I assume professional animators draw their characters from every angle hundreds of times before they even animate them so they can get the construction and volume correct rather than rely on skeleton abstractions.

>>5222650
It doesnt have to be a specific manequin/skeleton design just any kind of shorthand way to draw the character. Draw them 100 times ans youll naturally develop a fast sketchy shorthand way to draw them.
That way you wont spend a long time drawing each frame during the rough stage where more than likely youll need to make changes, delete/add frames etc.

>>5222650
There's several approaches into doing the roughs. There's a vid about it by toniko pantoja. Choose what feels comfortable to you
https://youtu.be/EOb1BijMBjU
https://youtu.be/B2o8C_t8uYs

Does anyone have any resources or tips on how to animate drapery?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxvybbp8vxU&feature=youtu.be

>>5221844
for christ's sake, this
i think covid made them drop the physical dongle so maybe next release will be easier to crack

>>5223978
The drawing tools are much better than TVPaint 10's. They should just make it free. I don't know why they have to be such Jews about it.

>>5223985
yeah man all companies should make everything free, its not like they need money anyway lmao

>>5224031
Yes.

>>5223985
even just a reasonable price
haven't bought software in years but would buy this at ~$300, but $1500 is a joke

I hope I'm doing alright, this shit's hard

>>5224477
Pretty sick. How long did this take you?

>>5219073
The downloadable contents were p useful. There's a .clip file and gif of all the exercise from the book that you can pick apart and study from.
I believe the text from the pdf is selectable too in case you want to google translate some parts.

>>5224120
Very few people learn to draw, fewer learn to animate. The code monkeys who make this software do so at the behest of bean counters taking the lion's share. The select few who animate are the only one's the suits can squeeze before throwing the scraps to the people who do any actual work. That's why good animation software costs so damn much.

>>5224615
Two and a bit hours, I think

>>5218412
>made a simple guide before
ty so much, i hadn't seen this

I saw something I really liked and I just want to copy it and share it, but this feels wrong.

>>5225674

How do you match animation to sound? I’m having trouble estimating the frames I need and have till this point just been eyeballing it. Is there a way to go about it via traditional animation?

>>5226289
Take the length of the audio, multiply by 24fps, use a stopwatch to track when each major syllable is, match those syllables to frames. Sync to the syllables and give them the correct mouth shapes. Don'e be afraid to exaggerate if you are not lip syncing on ones or twos.

>>5226289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8OAlOy6QNU

Aaron Blaise prefers to animate 2-4 frames ahead of the sound.

Is it ok to get into animation if you're not good and fundamentals? Not implying that I'm not trying to learn those.

Also is there any viable path in animation that's actually doable solo (ideally, making a bit of money)? Do you have any examples maybe?

What do you think is the best free beginner friendly animation software with rigging capacities?

>>5226820
>free
>beginner friendly
>rigging

You'll have to pick two of those three to look for.

>>5226942
How about "free" and "rigging" then?

>>5226963
Synfig Studio

is there money in making animated shorts? i know art shouldnt be about money but animation seems like it takes a long time for the end result.

>>5226820
anime studio

>>5226989
>i know art shouldnt be about money
If your major concern is making money then there are far more efficient means but if you are already interested in art then there is no reason you shouldn't focus on art in a way to make money.

The answer to you question is yes*
A lot of it seems to be marketing and catering to specific audiences.

>>5226330
I have never done dialogue, but when I do music I sync exactly to the beat by scrubbing, and only shift a few frames at the very end when the animation is complete - otherwise my brain goes all fuzzy trying to match an image to a frame delay.

>>5226989
>art shouldnt be about money
So your art has no value?

>>5227088
It isn't that the art doesn't have value, the idea is to find something rewarding about the act of creation. This doesn't exclude the possibility of monetary compensation, but instead supposes that art is able to serve a higher purpose.

>>5227088
you lack reading comprehension, just give up posting and dont come back. Please.

>>5227102
People pay for higher purposes.

>>5227155
If I gave up that easily I'd be a crab like you.

>>5227171
>is wrong
>says dumb thing
>makes a projection

okay dumb dumb

>>5227200
You sound crabby.

>>5227243
i sound like a crab because you cant read? based retard.

>>5227200
>>5227171
you're both smart cookies, now animate my homosapiens

>>5213988
>tiarawhy
Oi, you haven't been here in forever. How's the bonnie stuff progressing?

you arguing fags could at least bump the thread with animated content

what program is everyone using? what's the best free one? opentoonz?

>>5227370
here fag i animated this let me know how it looks i think something is off but idk what

>>5227457
looks fine to me gj

>>5227458
alright thanks i thought maybe something with the anatomy was off but i think i was just paranoid

>>5217669
Looks neat. Blog?

>>5222525
>13dl
Sorry, could you link to the site directly, please?

>>5193174
>layouts
I have done the same mistake, but layouts are actually one drawing of the start of the shot, for things like a really special cut theh would kove right to genga after doing the one frame. The idea, as I understand it now, is that layout helps flash out the composition from the board, and genga the animation, and if you try to guess away the motions in layouts it hurts the final result.
Sweet work either way

>>5200545
Very. Imagine the timing in your head and use notation to think about the motion beforehand. You will have enough tweaking even after that, but that woukd significantly reduce the hassle and let you create more complex things

>>5215998
I think Yen_BM has a lot of animating streams where he used camera shake.
https://www.youtube.com/user/0oBlademastero0

>>5227477
https://13dl.net/
It's just an aggregator site that mirror many books from internet, mainly japanese manga, ln, magazines, and books. Just search after effects, you could find many books there.

>>5219074
>motorpen
you can download webms now, try it out

>>5226172
anyone know if this is inspired by some Disney movie or something?

I'm not drawing for money only, but if I want to make some money out of animation online, is there any way to do it with 2D (if so, I suppose rigged is the wisest way to go?)?

>>5229076
make content for youtube

>>5227088
cucked by money.

>>5227171
>People pay for higher purposes.
yeah no

>>5229076
make fetish porn

>>5229063
No, it's from something live action, I don't remember the exact source but I wanna say it was a wrestling match
>>5226172
That being said, you did a good job copying the essential movements of the source video! Very pleasing to look at.

>>5229076
>>5229370
Unfortunately this. Create two completely separate online personas - one for fetish shit, one for your hobby art. If you get big enough they will eventually find out you have two accounts based on your style alone, but by that point you'll have dosh

>>5227866
thanks! I'll check that out

I found this sample AE camera shake as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGNcn6mlNs
His channel goes through the files of >>5222458 and explains each chapter

>>5227477
I found my copy here https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=artbook%24+after+effect

>>5224702
Roger, thanks anon

New Pixar trailer, 2nd movie under the new CCO Peter Doctor. After years of sequels/prequels and same artstyles, I like this. Looks like fusion of Jordi Lafebre and Marc Delafontaine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdAIBlPVe9s

>>5230446
i don't like it, the art style is a little different but its the same old pixar, tropes and everything.
that concept art is kind of neat though, those poses are very ghlibli/lupin 3rd.

>tfw no tvpaint or toon boom on ios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-epvGKqFKDM&ab_channel=DongChang

Any worthwhile animation programs on iOS that isn't RoughAnimator?

>>5231217
ryoubi small tiddy

>working in flash for the first time
>want to do a little musical thing so importing audio
>have to lower the audio hrz or whatever so flash accepts it
>successfully import the song into flash
>song is slowed down like 60% for some reason
>reconvert multiple times, song either won't import to flash or if it does get in, is slowed down
what the fuck is going on, ive been googling like crazy and it seems like next to no one has had this issue

>>5231622
I beileve it's either the imported file's format being bad or you have to change it in the publishing options in the tabs

I had that issue many years ago but forgot exactly how I fixed it sense, but I'm aware to make the music at least not sound like midi files you have to change it in the publish options to MP3 or Raw. And I'd suggest importing Mp3s or OGGs files instead of wavs unless it's for short sound effects, which do the inveres, wavs instead of MP3s. Oggs for short sounds I don't know.

>>5231657
At this point I don't mind the music having shitty audio quality, as long as it actually plays at its proper speed. If I try to export the song (which is like 1 min 5 seconds) as an MP3 at 8000 Hz, it will give me an error that says I can't export it at that size and I'll need to up it to at least 32000 Hz, at which point it wont be accepted by Flash. It's either not getting in, or if it gets in, its slowed down and I have no idea why.
One newgrouds forum post from like 2012 said I should try raising the kbps in properties, but messing around in this menu hasn't actually changed anything either.

>>5231679
Damn, this looks different than how I remember it. Guess this version is newer than the version I used back in the day
I do remember another was was via right clicking on the audio file itself in the library but that might not work either if this didn't

My last suggestion would be to use something like Audacity to resave the music file again, as a Mp3 or Ogg file, which will "reformat" the file and likely make it work with Flash properly. At least these are all the things I did back when I still used the program. Sorry if it doesn't end up working for you though, as it's been so long ago I don't remember much how to fix the sounds in Flash.

But I do remember though is that "181.4" of the original indicates how fast the music will play in real time, basically is why it's playing nearly 2x as fast as normal as you said before. It has to say 100% of original to play at the intended speed.

I am very proud of this.
Traditional animation, digital ink and paint. Had to do all the coloring on the phone because my pc is in the shop

>>5232057
freaking kawaii anon. Good job

>>5232108
Thank you, friend!

>>5227368
Finally getting back into working on it this year, gonna actually put stuff out.

>>5231679
Hz -short for Hertz, is a measure of frequency in wavelengths per second. The higher the frequency, the faster it is. what you need to adjust is bitrate.

>>5231679
>>5233324
Hz is almost certainly the sampling rate, which is usually 44.1kHz for audio and 48kHz for audio tracks in video files.
I have no idea what is happening in his software but downsampling audio will have a drastic effect on quality because you cannot represent frequencies higher than half the sample rate in the resulting audio file.
At Anon's 5kHz audio file, no frequencies above 2.5kHz are present and speech will sound very muddy and muffled.

>>5234132
I totally forgot about sampling rate, you make a good point.

this is going to take an eternity to actually finish so i might aswell post what i got cooking, not sure if i should be wasting time animating shit for the fucking storyboard of all things but i will forget how it should flow eventually. Shame i cant upload with sound, as if this scribble wasnt confusing enough

>>5234263
fuck me what did i do to the bitrate, im not bothering to reencode it again maybe next time

>>5192340
where can i acquire more of this gif

>>5213726
since I'm noobs I can only recommend someone I know:
https://ko-fi.com/bagusseno/#buyCommissionModal

>>5234532
https://fujiishingo.fanbox.cc/
https://www.patreon.com/shingofujii

>>5234263
It is always better to be over prepared than under prepared. This is a nice storyboard sequence.

quick shitpost

>>5235817
inspired by

is it okay

>>5235868
sprite work for a game i did

>>5235869
>>5235868
>>5235866
>>5235817
neato

>>5235817
Arcs are good, work on pushing the exaggeration. Will give more weight to the character when he jumps down onto the trampoline.

my first stop motion, 6 fps. not sure where to post this other than /jp/

>>5206565
I don't follow pron artists, you would ruin my image. Get lost or become normal.

>>5236401
Looks good. I'd suggest investing a lighting set and making a background set that's not reflective, like your desk. Also, I think it'd move even better if you make her stumbles a bit, like she's trying not to fall backward and then passed out and fall forward instead. It adds more comedic feeling like Animist stop motion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-3Z5RWgjLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXU0ZVy9k28

bros.. I forgot how fun animation was

Yes im a faggot

>>5236401
really good!

>>5231217
Silly af

>>5234263
I enjoyed watching this. Didn't expect the old guy to win at first.

My first animation, done for a d&d prop in one of my campaigns

https://motorpen.com/a/P7LYA

i dk

Bumping