/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

posting again beacause old thread died lol

started drawing a couple days ago, going through the sticky.

Just wondering if these loomis heads are ok?

>>5158555
cinnamon roll

>>5158613
Two words, Line Confidence.

Don't go over your lines so much, you are adding tone and confusing the form which makes it look amateur. Notice how the gestures where you used less line restatements are the most appealing.

I could've done the arms and hands a little better, and shoes
Was fun though, I gotta thank my buddy for teaching me some stuff

>>5158635
LOOMIS

Any feedback and opinions on this sketch before I ink it? First time trying to draw full blown war moments.

holy shit we'll never make it

>>5158639
Yeah I still gotta perfect the stuff in his books, still not there yet lol

hahahahahahahaha

>>5158645
copy his heads and mannequins. Think about proportion and build from simple forms.

Pro tip: use a compass or coin to make circles if yours are lopsided

>>5158629
>bleach white skin
>pink nipples

>>5158650
I feel like I have the most trouble with proportions, even with books and guidance that always gets me when a hand is further out in perspective for example
I wish my brain could 110% wrap around the concept lmao

>>5158654
trace some photos, copy drawings, get out a ruler and measure things. It's a slog but unfortunately it's the only way really.

>>5158629
Do futas really... make a cutout on the front of their dress to stick dicc and balls through it?

>>5158629
This virgin meme that female humans have nipplevaginas needs to die

>>5158611
no, dont go down the loomis path.
Do this instead.
>Trace and copy artist you like to be
>copy their art
>understand why their art WORKS
>learn about how they use lines, colors and effects

The rest of the anatomy, perspective, bullshit about paying artists to "teach" you fundamentals can be thrown away.
You are not trying to be a teacher, you are trying to learn art.
So LEARN from art you like.
TRACE IT! You can do it!

>>5158663
crab/10

>>5158663
Smells strongly of crab bisque

>>5158666
checked
devil doesn't lie

>>5158666
Okay satan

>>5158667
Remember motherfuckers, artists who sell videos, brushes and shit about how to draw.
That is how they MAKE MORE money.
To become an artist, all you have to do is copy art you like! The old ways, the ways of the old masters!

>>5158671
>implying the old masters didn't understand anatomy, proportion, perspective
shit they even conducted their own dissections and experiments in that time

>>5158663
guy who drew akane here>>5158635
Sorry but you're wrong, you gotta understand why the artists made those choices in the first place and the only way to so is understanding reality (which in the anatomy department I know I'm slacking lol).
This is why in gonna go back into the swing of drawing more and following steps for studies.
Only trace real stuff to practice like>>5158659

Enough shitposting. Sketch this Chinese semen demon if you have nothing better ti do. Simple pose and some not to cgallenging drapery, just the right choice for /beg/s

>>5158676
Exactly! Any means necessary! And the best way for digital is???? TRACING!

Enough shitposting. Just ignore the obsessed tracing-autist and sketch this Chinese semen demon if you have nothing better to do. Simple pose and some not too challenging drapery, just the right choice for /beg/s

>>5158663
You need to go back to /asg/

>>5158688
I don't draw second class Japanese race

>>5158702
Ok, my Korean friend

Please point me to the best resource for perspective. I can do 2 point perspective with boxes and cubes but the second I apply it to people or environment my brain rewires itself to be retarded. Been struggling with it for a while and it sucks. Perspective made easy helped, but not really enough.
Also I notice I have a problem that when I make character in scenes they look like theyre floating there or just photoshopped in. Is that issue related to poor perspective?
Do I just need to keep grinding 2 point and ill get it eventually?

>>5158555

Send some references please, I will draw all of them

>>5158714
Get help

>>5158688
Drawing coom is top tier. Perfect way to make grinding a more enjoyable process.

>>5158631
Those are gestures, line confidence in gesture is for advanced gesture art only.

>>5158711
You need to think about weight and balance more. Draw a line from the head straight to the ground. Does it make sense the way they're balancing? No

>>5158714
the idea is very good

>>5158734
Actually, yes? Theyre leaning on spears. The gesture is well done, the right one is a bit stiff but thats really it. Perspective is the main issue here

>>5158717
>>5158739
It's a first draft. I usually just slap down something terrible and then later I'll redo it from scratch with refs on nice paper and with more consideration to composition. Gibme crits.

>>5158760
I meant get help for the urge to draw anthro guro. Which doesn't belong on this board by the way

>>5158765
>Complaing about guro on 4chan

>>5158771
Read the rules dumb newfag instead of trying too hard to fit in

>>5158773
>Cares about the rules
>calls me a newfag
Im not the guy who drew that either.

>>5158773
nigga theres a loli general up right now
you think the mods give a fuck???

>>5158781
This general doesn't allow porn too. And furry general doesn't allow guro. Lrn to read. You seem like an underage t.b.h.

>>5158765
i mean...we're on an art board, and i cant draw a guy with an elephant head and his intestines falling out? is that against the rules? ill delete it myself if it is. its not intended to be furry porn if thats what you're implying.

>>5158784
>This general doesn't allow porn too
Since fucking when

>>5158791
>>5158793
>1. Don't post nudity or too revealing works.
When in doubt, post a censored copy here and link to the original off-site (e.g. catbox, imgur, etc).

>2. **No Porn**.
>No, not the retarded "anything with a body in it is porn" standard or "I see her underwear, MODSSS!!!" Use common sense.

Yes, kindly delete yourself, retards

>>5158798
literally didn't even have genitalia in the picture. it was a political statement retard. a gutted elephant. hello?

>>5158801
Make this political statement ob /b/ then. Your intent doesn't make intestines not guro.

>>5158806
i thought guro meant porn. are you seriously telling me i can't draw blood and guts on ic?

>>5158829
Not giving you more (you)s or spoonfeeding you anymore, do your own research, lazy underage fag

what to do when i can't think of a pose to draw a person in? been drawing boxes for days

>>5158838
masturbate

any good resources for extensive explanations of perspective and how it works? trying to sketch out some basic scenes but i get completely stumped trying to add even a little depth.
i'm a complete beginner but i find it fascinating and want to learn more.

>>5158833
aka you're wrong and can't even answer a simple question. got it.

>>5158844
on the right side of the picture you have plenty of horizonal lines. the line connecting the back wall and ceiling, the top of the door, the horizonal lines coming toward us on a track or whatever that is. just trace all of those lines over to the left. those lines are either all parallel or all converging at a single point somewhere far off to the left of the picture. the lines on your window are pointing to somewhere much closer. dude just google 2 point perspective. my explanation is making it sound harder than it is.

>>5158871
>In actuality the "grotesqueness" implied in the term refers to things that are malformed, unnatural, or horrific.[1] Items that are pornographic and bloody are not necessarily ero guro, and vice versa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ero_guro

Mods agreed that this is guro, yet you're still screeching autistically. What a sore loser. Perhaps art is not for you? When you do art, you have to learn to accept criticism humbly, otherwise you turn into the 5 months schizo.

>>5158688

>>5158749
You can't lean on spears like that though. The left one would fall off and isn't actually holding shit, and the right one would need to support en entire weight with her right arm, that's not the kind of casual pose you make.
Those are poses for leaning on bar counters or other things firmly stuck in the ground.

>>5158711
have you tried working on the shadows a bit ? Right now it just looks like you made them by using the perspective tool on their outlines and filled it with grey. Shadows aren't uniform and usually not that sharp, they'd get blurry the further you move from the object

>>5158749
How about you grab a spear and try to lean on it like that. Let me know how it goes. Take a picture of yourself doing the reverse michael jackson stance, feet flat on the floor while you lean off to that weird angle against a spear. Please, make my day. Show me that the impossible is possible.

If you dont have a spear just grab a stick or rod of some kind. Report back after you bust your ass on the ground because it didnt work.

>>5158829
Guro = chopped up bodies, guts falling out due to disembowelment, any serious gore. Keep arguing with people, I am sure that will make you totally justified and the mods will be convinced to let you post that crap outside of /b/!

>mfw beginner art thread becomes an argument about leaning on fucking spears

>>5158898
nice effort, got to focus on the proportions

>>5158923
The first things people ever drew were people using spears, furries and women with asses larger than their heads.

All that stuff about perspective, anatomy, Mobile suit gundams and drapery was just to distract grug from crabbing on the Mesopotamian image rock

>>5158939
Hold on, so what you're telling me is that the spear is actually... the true essence of art? We need to forget all the fundies and focus on piercing through beg and straight to int via the path of the spear?

>>5158688
Why do I even bother

>>5158909
Ill admit the left pose was a bit hard and is not 100% accurate but not impossible. I guess Im fucking God or something

>>5158947
Who the hell do you think I am? My spear will be the one that pierces the heaven!

Posting from last thread, drawing bawls

>>5158947
Maybe it wasn't about the money, the gains, or the crabs.... maybe it was just about the spears we made along the way.

Help

>>5158611
you are literally on the first part and you are already asking for confirmation

>>5159030
Nice values, edges, and accuracy. You need to work out your shadows more and get into those textures. Just grab a simple textured brush and eraser, like chalk brush or something, and go for it. They are very subtle, have fun! Remember to go along the form

>>5159030
The shapes look like they are floating and not resting on the ground.

>>5159087
Thank you, Im gonna do some eggs and spheres to work on shadows. Once Im comfortable with those ill try texture
>>5159098
This is a continuous problem in all my pieces and I dont know why or how to fix it. Please help

>>5158611
Yeah, they're looking alright. keep at it, anon!

>>5159103
>Once Im comfortable with those ill try texture
When you get to that point, take a peek at Scott Robertson's book How to Render. It should help you with your texture problem. Try drawing a page of cylinders or spheres with different kinds of textures.

>>5159103
>This is a continuous problem in all my pieces and I dont know why or how to fix it. Please help
The shadows are too large between the objects and the table. Look at the reference and look at yours. Look closely. You've got a thick line of shadow where there should be a thin one.

>>5159117
Oh shit, you're right.
Thanks! Messy fix, but I'm gonna keep this in mind now for future stuff
>>5159114
Will do

>>5159030

>>5158947
Probably. Compare the 60s, when most entertainment had spears in it, to modern art standards which gave us Calarts and the kind of awful traced art we see in capeshit

>>5158983
Those poses are dumb as fuck and I don't know why you would voluntarily draw someone posing like that, but kudos for proving that anon wrong kek.

remember anon, the root of procrastination is not laziness is pain avoidance.

>>5159203
but my lower back hurts like a motherfucker...

>>5159194
I know theyre dumb, but I just wanna keep experimenting with everything. I could do a standard "at attention" or "at ease" pose with a spear but I've drawn that type of pose dozens of times. Why not try some crazy leaning stuff to practice weight and balance?

>>5158983
not that other guy but just because a pose is possible doesn't mean it's good. you look horribly uncomfortable and really unnatural in both of those example pictures. can you really imagine someone leisurely standing around like that?

>>5159239
Yes I know its dumb, but I learned a crap ton from drawing it and thats really what counts

>>5159225
treat your back and stop fucking your mom

My fictional british-like science fantasy kingdom with aesthetics influenced by Code Geass and OG Macross. Any feedback on the mecha design, art style and pretty much everything in general?

>>5158688
Fking hell, how do you even draw Asians??

>>5159276
i like it but i think the composition is kinda weak, but im beg so idk

>>5158688

So recently I've noticed a loss of motivation to draw. Not as in I'm bored by what I do, but it feels like my body is fighting with me everytime I want to draw, I.e I start to get sleepy, feel hungry, thirsty, so then I have to take another break and another break and so on. I also zone out a lot without realising. I draw everyday, and I strive to do at least 4 hours, but recently I've been barely scraping for 2.5-3. How do I fix this?

>>5158555

>>5159276
The mech looks too much like just a guy wearing armour I think. I'm not enough of a weeb to know about mech design but I think you're supposed to use more squares.

Can someone sanity check my proportions/perspective?

>>5159345
is drawing your only hobby? do something else for a day/couple days

>>5159354
shit example with less human parts to illustrate

>>5159360
Drawing is the only productive thing I do. And recently I had a massive drive to only exercise/learn and do less and less creative drawings. Could this monotony of only doing studies be the source of the problem?

>>5159357
Hands and legs are too small. I know you wanted to foreshorten them, which is great, but try to keep proportion. Also draw a line at the waist and compare the angle to the line at the collarbone. Keep drawing lines at different points to observe how the perspective is skewed. I'd suggest to try drawing box humans until you get the smell of it. Don't schizo too much over it, perspective is ovverrated

>>5159366
Ain't no problem with it looking like a suit of armor. Not that guy but blocky mecha designs are more of a Western trait.

>Draw a cartoon character with big eyes, but not the anime type of big eyes.
>Moronic masses: "Hey bro. I really like your anime art."

>>5159385
Nice blog, but who asked?

>>5159385
add the red nose bro

Where do I go from here /beg/?
Ref is from the TS blacked thread on /hr/

>>5159385
Cartoons have been looking like anime for years now, I'm not surprised.

also pyw in case they're right

How do you error check a gesture? what makes a gesture a good gesture?

Whats the difference between simplification and symbol drawing? Or is there not one

>>5158663
this is the worst advice i've ever heard

>>5159369
I've got a similar thing. I'mprocrastinating on my creative projects now, as soon as I open one now all I can think of is how everything as shit and that I ngmi. Even though there are people who've seen the wip and liked it. Perhaps coming here and trying to git gud instead of being an eternal /beg/ who Draws for FunTM was a mistake. I can definitely feel that the fun has died.

>>5158663
>tracing
lmao. pyw so I can laugh some more please

WIP

>>5159285
you can tell the difference between japanese and chinese if you look hard enough. this is how you draw chinese

>>5159593
COOOOM

>>5158688

>>5158688

>>5159357
resize ur image

sorry for the bad photo, is it okay? i just finished this sketch

>>5159563
symbol drawing is when you draw what you think something should look like instead of what it does. One example is features on faces always appearing to face the viewer and not what the head points towards. Kinda like anime side mouths

>>5159767
it looks nice anon, no clue how the fuck are you gonna ink that

>>5159781
Thanks, I think ill leave it pencil maybe i'll try a different scene tomorrow, do u have any inking tips?

>>5159785
no anon

>>5159769
Thank you You explained it really well

what did you guys study today??

>>5159852
3 point perspective and some back muscles. Not much though, I spent most day trying to get a job.
At this rate I'll probably make more this year drawing furry diaper porn than doing what I actually got a degree in, fucking economy.

>>5159852
Tried working on Hampton but realized I need to do more boxes so I’m doing the 250 box challenge.

>>5159852
>he fell for the studying meme
you tryna be a medical student or an artist bro?

>>5159923
Pyw

This is just a simple practice sketch but how did I do?

>>5159927
read em and weep, loser

>>5159852
Nothing I watched tv. Good work though keep it up. I’d focus on hands entirely separately for now

>>5159929
first do you think you did? I’m just wondering what you’d say if you had to criticise it yourself

>>5159890
the 250 boxes burned me out so bad. failure to execute on the suggestion that guy has about spending half your time drawing for fun.

Related general /beg/oid issue: I tend to draw (or paint) exclusively for "practice" and never really make anything. I don't draw recreationally at this point and even absent-minded doodles look like scaled down perspective or shading exercises. Just feels like wasted time, as if by doing enough grinding I'll eventually get good enough that I can stop "practicing" and start "making art". But at the same time it feels like I've lost my creative impulse and don't know where to start without some kind of lesson or exercise structure.

>>5159050
Hard to believe somebody who just started drawing would pollute this thread with their disgraceful works.

>>5159927
>Pyw
Here it is >>5159412 nobody has critiqued me yet

>>5159948
I feel you. I just went back to it and my new boxes are god awful.

>>5158555
I’m not sure what it is but three point perspective boxes are my kryptonite. I think that I need another resource besides drawabox or I need to slow down because my previous ones weren’t even this bad. Anyone got any tips?

>>5159948
Have you tried actually planning a piece? It sounds so obvious but it’s the key. People have similar problems in a lot of creative fields. Like writing music, always jamming but never finishing songs. Think about something you want to draw,
Do some thumbnail sketches for composition then try to actually draw it to the best of your ability. Finish the drawing. Don’t criticise yourself until it’s finished. The final drawing is then a key for what you need to work on and you can go back to practicing

>>5159940
Well I don't think I got right Arm correct, and to me the pose feels off but I'm not quite sure

>>5159412
>>5159955
You should study some toning and highlight next. You are good enough to move on just need to fix some minor errors like the eye placement or the ear and neck size.

>>5159962
Are you doing it with an actual perspective grid? I don’t understand how people do a formulaic method wrong

>>5159977
I’m unsure as to how to use a perspective grid. The drawabox guy said to pretty much freehand these

>>5159962
Some new boxes. Starting to think I’m getting the hang of it

>>5159969
Yeah dude that’s what I’d say the right arm is a bit feeble and spaghettified. Keep at it man. The rib cage is too small and the waist is way small. I think body parts are a bit out of proportion so work on that. My advice would be layer it over a similar posed photo to see quite how off things are. Also work on heads and faces separately

>>5159984
hey draw my boxes for me

>>5159982
I’ve not done DAB but you need to understand what you’re trying to do to be able to execute it. That’s your problem. Put out 10 hours this week and watch marshall vandruffs perspective. You will understand things significantly better after. Good luck

how the fuck do i learn to paint
how do you know what colors to pick and all that
what's the best digital painting introduction course?

>>5159852
A crap ton of 2 point perspective, a bit 1 minute figures, still life of geometric shapes, along with some like half a dozen doodles.
Trying to iron out perspective mainly

>>5160000
I’ve heard a lot of good things about the course. I’ll check it out

>>5159970
nice, what about the overall shapes though? do they look realistic/organic to you? or is it something a little bit too square?

>>5159989
Sweet, thank you very much :)

>>5158561
i think you should work on your anatomy and gesture. it's stiff and not anatomical

>>5160021
I mean i could tell who it was but the shape of the face is a little off. Maybe the head is a little too big.

>>5158611
Really fucking good for just 2 days. don't listen to angry, contrarian, and paranoid advice.

>>5160033
Interesting, I've never heard of a portrait with a head too big. what do you mean btw, should I draw smaller?

>>5160039
no I mean it is a little big if you are referencing TS head, I think her head is a little small than what you drew.

>>5160041
okay, I'm confused now. you first said the neck was too big but now the head should be smaller, so everything is too big? I dont get it, is the drawing too big? .
btw please answer my question about "shapes".

I don’t know why it looks bad :( I just spent 2 hours on it but it doesn’t look good. Is it the lack of proper shapes and no consistency? I wanna go for a American carton style. Think something on Cartoon Network :(. I’m not going to make it am I guys?

Any critiques for my yusuke?

is sighting by holding your pen out even worth doing for digital art? i feel like no one does it outside of tutorials

>>5160070
nope, just use parts of the drawing as landmarks

>>5158555

>>5160064
no both are big and should be smaller but only by a little bit. As for your shape is looks good not to blocky and has a good flow to it.

>>5160068
Looks really flat anon

>>5160078
based

My eyes and brain are fucked to the point where I can't properly gauge scale and tell if lines are truly parallel or at the correct angle. It's like a constant fucking optical illusion.

>>5160080
got you, so smaller head, much more smaller neck and shapes are just about right. thanks.

>>5160068
you need gesture anon

>>5160068
Are CN going for the genderqueer audience these days or what?

>>5160090
You had so much fun drawing the head on the bottom that I'm actually jealous.

Drawing on tablet looks like I have fucking parkinsons

>>5160099
here’s the original reference photo. try it out yourself ^^

>>5160095
You can always compare to your ref pic.

>>5160069
Gesture.
Your Josuke looks like a skelly, although I really enjoy the pose and the foreshortening even if the finger looks like huge penus.

>>5160074
is there any reason why it's fallen out of fashion? in my mind it was always associated with traditional painting on an easel but i never see any pro artists ever do it

>>5160111
you can check the picture yourself, it's on /hr/.
nothing I drew was made different from the reference besides the eyes because i really really liked the eyes from the rough sketch i made since they are more "almond" shape and i felt that's more characteristic of TS

>>5160125
C'mon man give me a proper penus along with that big black beast.

>>5160107
I might try but I won't be able to recapture that old man the way you did. Good job man.

>>5160137
wtf thats really nice of you ty anon

>>5158661
This. I mean you can even look at your own (male) nipples to see this.

>>5160090
Good shit Anon. Side profiles are one of my weaknesses and it’s nice seeing someone do them so well

>>5160139
tell me anon what course did you do for those heads

Is this a good pose?

>>5160159
Before attempting these heads I read up on loomis and the Proko “how to draw heads/faces series”. I don’t think I used loomis at all when drawing these, I just tried to keep things proportionate and create defined shapes. I started with the bigger shapes (like the silhouette of the head) and worked towards the smaller shapes. These are things I learned from Proko’s videos.

>>5160167
Did you ever study the skull? That helps me personally I’m just wondering

>>5160166
stiff as my dick and you need to fix the abs they are too low

>>5160166
No. The torso is completely fucked. The tits are shit as well.

>>5160168
Not really. I understand the structure of the browbone and eyesocket kinda but thats about it. I plan on studying bones and muscles next so I understand what I’m doing better.

>>5160166
the right leg is too short or the left leg is too large

>>5160175
How the fuck is that stiff you cunt

>>5160166

>>5160175
>>5160176
>>5160182
>>5160187
Thanks for the tips, though 75% of if is confusing.

Will try to correct what I can.

Any improvements?

Do people usually notice random shading and highlighting? pic related

>>5160217
That's a snowman melting if you want to know.

>>5160215
anon i am begging you to learn anatomy and perspective before you attempt this drawing again.
1) the weight of your lineart is inconsistent
2) the arm connects to the torso at the armpit for some reason
3) where is the other arm?
4) broken wrist
5) the head is too small

please just go back to learning the basics, specifically the proportions of the human body

>>5160215
Somewhat, I guess. I don't think the mega tits at all..
>>5160217
>>5160220
I mean, you can barely tell what's going on. It's a mess. So, maybe?

>>5160224
*I don't think the mega tits are helping you at all

>>5160215
Lose the tits. For real. Draw a flat chested babe so you can focus on the important thing. Postpone the horny spheres for when you are ready to tackle the squishy, gravity affected thing.

Also hand is hideous.

>>5160082
Yea it seems my work is just flat :( recommend any books to help with dimensions?

>>5160229
Michael Hampton is good for that. follow his insstructions carefully. don't skip or miss anything

what's a good website to do sketches without clothing involved? also is this okay? I feel like the chest line went to shit there

>>5160230
Thanks man! ill be back in a month with remasters to see if improved at all

>>5160224
I mean, it is supposed to be a mess I guess, I really hope it is not too much of a mess that no one understands anything.

>>5160224
>>5160226
>>5160228
Okay. Lose the chest.

But do you guys agree with the other guy's critique who just think the whole thing is horrible?

I'm simply trying to draw without using a reference and construction lines.

>>5160215
You're right but it's actually 100% of critical bullshit you recieved so far. You are better of learning by yourself than asking for advice for absolute beginners who will say "too big this", "too small that". Given your ability by the way you draw hands you're not a begginer, being able to draw a hand in that weird postion requires skill.
Critical thinking is not going to lead you nowhere, if you learn by yourself how to criticize your work in a practical way then you'll become a better artist.
The REAL questions you should ask yourself are "does the foreshortening look right?", "how does the contraposto work on the thigh?", "is this the right countour for the boobas", "are my vanishing points in the right place?" etc...

Did the pure countor line exercise from the "drawing on the right side" book, and made this. Am I fucking this up or is this how it should look?

>>5160238
whats the reference anon, was that suppose to be a gesture?

>>5160238
kek

>>5160237
Thanks. You are right about most of the critique.

I'm getting input on stuff, but I'm not being told how it's wrong. It's confusing me.

>>5160242
It was supposed to be the creases and wrinkles formed in the palm of my hand when I close it slightly. The book told me to look away from my paper, and for 5 minutes follow along the various creases with my eyes and draw what I saw as I went along.

>>5160222
Are you fucking retarded, dude?

>>5160253
name one thing i was wrong about :) you cant

>>5160237
>hand is good, ignore those anons.

How is he gonna think about vanishing points if the drawing doesn't seem to have perspective behind its thought process at all, fucker?
He needs to learn what he needs to learn befora drawing what he wants to draw.
The state of /beg/. Holy shit.

>>5160236
Also, please use reference and study real bodies to have an idea of how they work.
Maybe read and do the exercises of Cognitie Drawing by Jason Brubaker.

>>5160222
That person takes critique very badly, watch out

>>5160235
The panel on the right is fine. Middle I'm not sure what is, but it's fine otherwise. Left is just visually confusing. I don't know what I should be looking at.

>>5160255
Everything. That's why you're a fucking retard. The tits are literally the only thing wrong and even they aren't that bad.

>>5160258
Yeah just tell him again that the head is too small and the right leg is too big that's really gonna help him out to improve his art, clown.
State you're a beginner before giving advice to somebody else.

Uh-oh. What have I done? I just wanted some input...

I think i will never be good

>>5160265
Thank you, I will put it on my mind the next time.

>>5160272
??? You're doing just fine

>>5160266
wrong <3

>>5160274
just fine isn't enough for me

>>5160278
So you're being an attention whore saying ywn be good

>>5160272
I really like the the expressions in 2, 3 and 4. No idea what's going on in 5?

>>5160269
For the love of God, please ignore the HYPER critical dude. He's fuckin insane.

>>5160249
anon you had to draw the hand as well, you only did the details of it. like pic related with my shitty drawing of the exercise

DID
YOU
JUST
CRITIQUE MY WORK??

>>5158574
i think youre reaching too far. practice value and drawing lineart seperately.

clint explains this pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhZ6Up6rUc

/begs/ giving advice to /beg/ is a bad idea. And I'm kinda /beg/, but shit.

>>5160215
Anon, if it helps, I'm the one that gave input to the frog thot drawing anon and the sphere drawing anon on the previous thread. Also the one who drew this
>>5159754

Please know this anon >>5160266 is blatantly wrong.

Study real bodies. Read this >>5160260. Read the sticky.
Hardest task is going to be filtering useful info here. Good luck.

>>5160011
is that a kid or a dwarf?

>>5160279
Attention is what i want. I'm not drawing for myself, i mean i enjoy process a lot but i need people praise.
I want godlike skills and to be famous. I want to be better than everyone. Its feels like fantasy tho. I have no talent.

>>5160282
me either, i mean on5 i tired to do some shocked expression kek. Looks like dogshit.

I genuinely can't tell if the pose is even readable or if she just looks like an amputee

>>5160315
the hands have no impact on the skirt which makes it look awkward

>>5160315
the arms look flat

>>5160315
here's a better screenshot the other one was cut off oops

>>5160311
Halfling

>>5160317
>>5160321
Alright thanks, do the legs look ok?

>>5160326
dont think they look bad but then again im on /beg/ for a reason

>>5160310
Thanks for the advice. Still confused about what exactly is wrong, though, besides the breasts.

I think what I've learned is that I'm not ready to draw without references. I guess.

>>5160326
No, rather what's the camera y position. You can't get an uspkirt unless it's under crotch position

>>5158555
Help. Oh God help.

>>5160326
there are no legs anon

Konbanwa /beg/ friends. I started looking into vilppu and Michael Hampton stuff
>>5160289
You should use a brush with opacity jitter and maybe a more red color for sketching , personally I think a hard black brush can get visually confusing

>>5160311
its ur mum

No one is bad as Gaston

>>5160337
i thought you already did vilppu and hamtpon

>>5159890
>box challenge
ngmi

>>5160350
silly

>>5160350
Only course I ever did was brent evistons figure drawing course so no

>>5160357
not even will weston??

>>5158688
I can't do it, I'm a coward, don't know what to do next

Am I polishing a turd, people? I should just abandon this, right?

>>5160361
Never heard of him

>>5160366
also i know this is you
>>5160354

>>5160367
No

>>5160337
like this but in red right? you have any tips for inking since you posted a nice drawing of yours.

>>5160370
why are you so hostile

>>5160337
how long?

>>5160375
Why are you so silly?

>>5160383
see i knew it was you

>>5160337
I think that her mandible is too small

>>5160371
Yeah like that , have pressure sensitivity on for the brush size too just to be sure. I say red because it helps you get the mentality that it’s only a sketch and you can make mistakes, also when it’s time to ink it’s far less visually confusing. For actually inking I think it just takes practice and be sure to have undo hot keyed because it’s very helpful to find that line you want, then just do quick strokes and keep working on new things
I noticed the sketches for the work I finish lately aren’t really a good example to show off, I started leaving them more unfixed and just try to fix what I can when inking
>>5160375
I’m not, don’t engage with me over nonsense every time I post here please

>>5158688
How's this shit so far?

>>5160413
how long have you been drawing?

>>5160398
>I’m not, don’t engage with me over nonsense every time I post here please
anyway i was gonna ask how do you go about stepping out of your comfort zone because i have a problem where every little thing i do will be not so good and result in being "silly" so i've been watching will weston's figure drawing classes to draw bodies more than usual heads

>>5160418
I've been drawing on and off since childhood. This is the first time i touch a pencil this year.
Why?

>>5158688
I started Gesture drawing yesterday so I just wanna make sure I'm getting it right
Forgive the attempt at drawing the body lines when I don't know jackshit of construction yet

>>5160421
It's over
I KNEW IT HAHAHAHAHAHHA TALENT IS REAL

>>5160364
The hips and thighs are weird as shit, but this is far from a turd. I would suggest you use a reference for that section.

>>5160419
Stepping out of your comfort zone is trying to draw something you believe will be difficult or maybe impossible for your current skills
You need to also look at art you like, try to copy it seriously and then ask yourself what is different between the two drawings. I’m not sure what your art goals are

>>5160430
to draw like you and more taimanin asagi

>>5160435
But I'm a beginner too, aim higher
Anyway I use a lot of real life reference for bodies so I guess start there. Asagi artist has been drawing fully bodied characters daily for probably over 25 years, so get to it if you want to be like that some day

>>5160447
thanks, i just have to get more comfortable drawing from references because usually i just draw from imagination and obviously it's kinda hindered my drawing process and i know for sure people are tired of me just drawin' body shots so i've been trying to find ways to draw better. I'll see what i can find for references. Though i don't really want to look at porno.

>>5160423
How's this talent?
Never been told that

>>5160398
thanks for the advice anon

Failed again, trying to copy art I like
>>5160447
>>5160435
aLLOw me to intrude for a second but i think the other human wants to fuck you
parasocial relationships or a compliment
>>5160457
It's talent, drawing is all talent

>>5160426
Thanks for the info. Is there a good app for poses, by any chance?

>>5160364

Can you post the reference you're using?

>>5160422
I dont know why it keeps posting it turned sideways. anyway im not too confident on what im doing I know for sure I messed up on the shoulder lines but is the rest of the lines good?

>>5160461
dont get crabbed, he's larping, like on /fit/ when people tell us we're ripped and we say "yeah i do some pushups sometimes haha"

>>5160461
Talent doesn't exist but it require some intelligence. To you talent may as well exist.

>>5160479
Took you some energy to come up with that, huh? Sweetheart, nothing you can tell me is going to compare with what I tell myself.

Haven't drawn in a while but taking a break helped a lot, this looks better than anything I made before and I'm quite happy with it.
Sure, I have no idea how to draw clothes. Or hands. But I'm very happy with the head and the the body, little as can be seen.

>>5160413
Eurofriend, look into Rosetta stone, you need it.

>>5160484
dumb tiny hat

man what the fuck was going on when the forearms were developed, its like you look at a diagram and then at an actual arm and you can't make heads or tails of it. its really quite frustrating

>>5160497
A fellow player? Maybe even from /gfg/?
I can't tell if it's a local meme or not. Anyway, tiny hats are cute.

>>5160488
I don't understand, is my English that bad?

>>5160534
Ignore him

>>5160534
How's the weather on Portugal?

How do I draw a clothed figure from reference? Pic related has been driving me fucking insane because I can't imagine how her ribcage and pelvis are under all that drapery.

Still can't even draw a head even with pen stabilization turned on, What do I do?

>>5160556
turn the stabilizer to 8 out of 100. then keep practicing.

>>5160558
Why 8 specifically?

Maybe I'm just a retard or Hampton's method of hands is overly convoluted and also useless
Guess I'll try Loomis

>>5160582
yeah I dont understand Hampton's hands either but as far as the rest goes I notice an improvement already

FUCK why is my rendering so UNNAPPEALING
I UNDERSTAND LIGHT, I GET FORM
BUT WHENEVER I PICK UP A BRUSH I GET MUDDY GARBAGE

whats a good way of telling the arm placement during Gesture sketch?

>>5160590
I think you’re rushing it anon, and the values are unclear, cool it with the fresnel on something not completely glossy, clean up your hard edges too and don’t be lazy with the ambient occlusion

I don't want to sound like 4months schizo but this pic (>>5160550) legitimately demoralized me. Is it normal to not be able to imagine how her form looks under the clothes after 9 months of drawing? I've done a lot of figure studies and I do okay with naked figures.

>>5160626
Are you using Hampton’s method?

>>5160640
I've never felt the need to use any specific method (up until now) because I did okay(ish) with naked figures. And I'm starting to realize that I basically know jack shit unless it's all laid bare in front of me.

i have to figure this out

>>5160626
Yes it's normal.

>>5160645
silly

>>5160647
instead of saying silly why don't you tell me some pointers i could fix

>>5158555
how fucked is this, i cant see it

>>5160660
Center the chin?

>>5160656
it's not even a draft or sketch

>>5160678
what about this stuff

>>5160660
mouth if not aligned, small weird angle
other than that not really much to say

>>5160692
silly

>>5160695
it's useless trying to communicate

>>5160692
why are you doing this on paint

>>5160697
what do you expect from boxes and head, silly?

>>5160699
what is something that you will consider not silly because im tired of it, tired of it all

>>5160702
go find some pose reference and draw

>>5160704
thanks

always find something nice from the japs
I already understand the spine deal but I was struggling with the arm placement

having fun with a pencilTM
how do i into getting eyes and noses looking alright and even? i'd imagine it's a bit easier on digital.

>>5160716
silly

>>5160716
guide line and experience.

>>5160716
try drawing on paper with lines if youre starting out, might help you center things

why does this hand look wrong, how to fix

>>5160717
why am i silly
>>5160718
you mean vertical lines at eye level to try and get eye width correct before marking anything down?
>>5160723
will probably try this out

>>5160725
i think the issue is the thumb, the last joint is foreshortened as if it's angled down holding the book in place, but the angle itself is off. not sure how to explain it well

>>5160789
>>5160789
>>5160789

>>5159852
>those hands
my sides

>>5160312
>but i need people praise.
> I want godlike skills and to be famous. I want to be better than everyone.

In the small, small chance this isn’t bait and you’re serious you’ve royally fucked up here. Art isn’t about fame, superiority, or whatever it’s about the process of creation and what makes you, you. Shit, imagine how worse art would be if people didn’t draw what they wanted to, and just drew whatever current thing was popular, we’d be in an Uncreative hell span.

>>5160078
Cringe and edgy crap that looks like it was scribbled by a 6 y.o., just like yesterday. I guess you're too dumb to read the googledoc and go through the resources there too, just like with the rules. Stick to guro... oh, wai, 'political statements', fag, then your crap would have some appeal at least for someone and you'll get the asspats you so desperately crave. It's plain to see you're not here to learn anything.

>>5160413
Easily the best attempt itt so far, you should have finished it

>>5160556
with time you get it