/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

pee pee

>>5142780
dude wtf

>>5142721
Posemaniacs is officially dead. Fuck is there any way to use it again? It was my favorite site for figure drawing.

>>5142788
works on my machine

>>5142796
Click on an actual pose dude.

>>5142788
pose-trainer.com/en/

>>5142802
install flash then

Yo, /beg/ experimenting with mixing and matching different techniques for life drawing to figure out what works for me. Anyone got more to add besides: (taking measurements, angle sighting, triangulation, checking alignments, using negative space, enveloping)?

>>5142806
Flash is dead

>>5142804
This seems like a good substitute anon thank you

Do those boobas look good? (I don't really read books or watch tutorials, I just watch boobas)

>>5142818
You have never seen bobs

>>5142818
honestly just study artist does there breast

>>5142820
>he says, on 4chan of all places

am i gmi?

>>5142867
The apple is missing its cellulite

I drew this today...what do you all think?

>>5142873
i cant into texture at the moment, too bigbrain for me

I took another step forward

What's the biggest issue, what would you change?

any tips on going from a sketch to a final drawing, I dont really know what to do with this sketch rn (also some advice on how to make lineart look nice would be appreciate )

>>5142721
ITT a bunch of people that are clearly above /beg/ level flexing on actual beginners

>>5142993

>>5142993
I should have filpped the canvas earlier cus this looks like shit, I'll redo this and then post it again

>>5143002
Like who?

How fast should my line strokes be, really?

>>5143002
Who will crit the /beg/ stuff without people who aren't total shit ?
learning not to give up while everybody else flexes on you constantly is probably more important than learning how to draw circles

>>5142978
Excellent use of lines.

After like 3 days trying to understand the design of that armor (I SWEAR ALPHAMON HAS A DIFFERENT ARMOR AND HEAD IN EVERY PIC not even the creators are sure of his design)
I was finally close to getting the lineart ready....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRH0a6ubvE

but I'm motivated as hell after listening to that song and looking at that dynamic art so I can't just do a "standing front pose", I'll try to make him more dynamic even if I barely understand gemotry. Good luck anon from the future.

Proportions are all fucked, but the rendering turned out nice enough, I guess. Spend way too much time on it.

>>5143207
covered in oil

today I started doing gesture poses, still not really feeling it, tried to follow what the proko man says
pic is 30 second poses, I'm doing it right?
also I fucking hated the poses and the muscle thingy in pose-trainer.com/en/, is there another site for more human poses that isnt dead?
>>5142884
what is even going on?

>>5142978
Have an edit. Don't be lazy while hatching. It requires some work, but it makes such a big difference.

>>5143209
Yeah, that was the point. I thought I would have some fun.

>>5143218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtVUHgJqQk
Give yourself more time per pose if you feel like you're not learning what you should be learning.

>>5143034
Your lines should be smooth and precise. Speed is a consequence, not something you should be thinking actively.

i can't draw anything

>>5143207
She got the windows logo on her abdomen lmao.

>>5143241
is that you 5 month?

How did you learn to sight angles? I've been following Eviston's course but I just can't do it, and looking at other videos didn't help. Triangulation seems super useful but I can't find a way to accurately transfer angles to the page.

>>5143263
practice makes perfect

>>5143218
it's going ok, how are you

Should I practice figure with a pen or pencil? Does it even matter?

do you guys know a book like Fun with a Pencil but sort of a painting style? or any book about painting that is dumb down like Fun with a Pencil. I understand the definition of tone, color, hue, saturation, and all that stuff but only in dictionary. I can't fucking apply them at all.

>>5142899
Bad Picture Guy; is that you? Back at it again, I see.

>>5142721
did this recently anything I should fix ?

>>5142993
Bump - improvment addition

>>5143207
The oil sheen is okay, I mean look at Masumune Shirow. But watch out for pillow shading.

gestures

>>5143313
make your lines cleaner next time

>>5143331
Thank you. I’ll keep that in mind next time I try this

>Draw a face
Soul but flawed
>Draw it again
Less flawed but completely soulless
Which one should I use?

>>5143333
Use a pencil, think constantly on what you're aiming for, then repeat the same pose over and over again til you see an improvement or at least you're aware of the mistakes you're making.

>>5142818
Close bobs and vegana

>>5143334
alright thanks

>>5143344
stop thinking in memes

>>5143344
The third option.
Now try to "hand draw it" without much care, like the first time, but it'll end up soulful AND less flawed since you learned from the first correction you did.
Honestly it's the way to go.
>1st sketch SOUL = Flawed
>2nd sketch rigid, flawless and soulless
>Use what you learned in the 2nd lineart to produce a slightly flawed but good looking piece

Yep

tried some character design

>>5143397
and yes i know just a hat isnt a design lol but gotta start somewhere

>>5143331
"Pillow shading" is same as in "Dynamic anatomy"?

>>5143416
Yeah the cover of that book feature the muscular dude is a good example. Here's the best explanation image I could find on Google.

>>5142788
Posemaniacs has a non-flash version that still works here: posemaniacs.com/blog/sp/thirtyseconds

experimenting with gel pens. sorry for reposting from trad but it seems like that thread is more for paintings

>>5143346
shit advice

how to

Does anyone have an anatomy guideline/method that uses a box for the torso, instead of the usual egg? I find it easier when the drawing has a tricky perspective

Thanks

>>5142867
Running through the exercises on fun with a pencil. Took me 4 hours to get this far but the construction techniques are starting to make sense. Loomis says to draw your own face instead of his but when I do I have no idea what to do line art wise with the face (the dick nose in the top row being an example) am I just an npc with no imagination or is this normal

what do you think is the worse thing in this?

>>5143523
wheres the body

>>5143523
Why did you use black lines for the blush? I've never seen anime do that. It's parallel red lines or red blush circles, not both, and certainly no black. Looks like a tire rolled over her face.

>>5143523
definitly the blush

>>5143532
whoa... not him but definitely gonna do that now.

>>5143450
Think before putting lines down. What does that hatching convey? Were you trying to show volume? Texture? Or were you just hatching and hoping it looks pretty?
Think. You already have the patience to (cross-)hatch on an uniform manner, you just need to put in the mental work. You've got this.

>>5143498
Fun with a pencil being recommended to beginners is monumental bullshit. Read perspective made easy and watch Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching.

>>5143344
>soul
can you describe more precisely what you like about it? if not you should analyse it more.

>>5143523
Looks like She's been hit with a bat across the face...

I need help with watercolor, how to make it look appealing and solid and not like rainbow vomit
>>5143561
It's stiff but is able to communicate something, the expression from the reference and this is guilty because it's heavy stylization borrowed from someone else, by trying to copy their style on the first attempt I like the face, it might not be as accurate to their way of doing things as others but it has personality, personality born out again, looking both stiff and expressive at the same time, real clutch

>>5143530
I will get there!

>>5143532
>>5143533
dawn you are right, no idea why I did this.

>>5143568
I assume it is about the black lines too?

>>5143450
Someone just gave me an excellent critique and then deleted their post. Whoever it was, thank you. I’m going to draw this centipede again with only ink to focus on intentional hatching and linework

>>5142867
Really nice. One thing I notice right away is the bottom of the bottle isn't quite round enough, and it's throwing off the perspective.

>>5142721
what happened right here but the rest of the work is shit?

>>5143344
>>5143583
>whining and expecting magical cure-all advice
ngmi

>>5143629
rest of the work work

>>5143630
>>5143344
>>5143583
>nonsensical whiny rambling
>expecting magical cure-all advice
ngmi

Please pardon the mess for now, but I want to get your opinion on something. In regards to composition, is it OK if the gun gets cut off by the frame? It's a long flintlock pistol and it's a bit difficult to keep it in the canvas

>>5142884
Skitzo doodles make you feel like a modern artist but make you look like a modern autist.

>>5143207
She’s got radiation sickness and a tellytubbie screen on her belly

>>5143313
Contrast and saturation are fucked, the character is literally blending with the background

Am I still a beginner or Int?

>>5143642
>is it OK if the gun gets cut off by the frame?
why would that be a problem?

>>5143659
yes

>>5143659
Where is shreks fat monster dong?
/beg/ because no monster dong

>>5143659
really tho, I would say int, but it could be a fluke because the drawing is so simple.

>>5143666
based gay satan!

>>5143523
Definitely the overbearing, inexplicably black blush.
Some other issues;
-Fringe is merged with hair on the rest of her head creating a flat impression.
-Mouth looks fucky, look at more references even if it has a "middling" effect on your style (better to be like everyone else and good than unique but subpar)
-Bad line work in general (chin too pointy, neck and shoulders look western cartoon not anime).
The eyes are fairly outstanding though. No complaints there. I hope you didn't just trace those and do the rest yourself...

>>5143673
Not that anon, but what do you mean by "neck and shoulders look western cartoon not anime"? What makes them look cartoony vs anime?

>>5143696
Anime necks are usually straighter than that while the transition to the shoulders is more gradual. He has little sharp corners similar to the point of the chin.

dropped loomis and went to Hampton. going page by page, next is leg and hands..

>>5143723
Me in the middle with my bat about to bash the fash

>>5143498
>am I just an npc with no imagination or is this normal
You just need to throw yourself into art with an intimate passion like some of the artists you admire. I know that's pretty vague advice but your journey will become more clear as you keep moving forward and learning what you need to study to improve.

No but seriously, how do I use watercolor? I want strong solid colors not rainbow vomit

I crabbed for like 2 months, so i decided to sketch this, please critique

>>5143745
yoo can I get the source photo, an insta name, anything?

Perspective seems a bit off, I think it's just the way the parts of her body are connected. Her belly drops lower than you drew, the crease on her thigh above her knee, things like that are slightly off which throw the perspective off.

What was I suppose to learn when drawing fabric?

and watercolor is so hard, test pages were inconclusive
on the other hand I think I get keys to drawing

>>5143765
See how much you improve when you go practice instead of thinking of the next way to post your stupid avatar and whine for attention? Good job.

>>5143766
Those are doodles, do you like this one? >>5143742

>>5143767
No, it looks rushed.

>>5143763
a good grasp of anatomy first desu, after that cloth will make more sense as it wraps around the body

>>5143771
It isn't finished, but rushed, many iterations trying to get a flow right, the idea is to do it as a fashion designer would, oh they are monsters at it, no detail on a person, all lines are a single one and vibrant colors, clothing is all that matters.
Any advice then?
Red dress
RED!
https://youtu.be/Zlot0i3Zykw
Can you give me something to draw? Pretty please

Am I still /beg/?

>>5143781
I would need to see if she's actually that ugly or if you screwed it up.

>>5143763
aside from actually learning how to draw the fabric itself, it forces you think about the shapes in 3D space and how they interact with each other. Really understanding *what* you're drawing rather than just throwing down some lines like you did on the right figure. The left figure's cloth looks a lot better.

>>5143763
>>5143786
Wasn't sure about the bottom half of the right one was being absolute retard on that one, I'll just practice more regardless thanks for the comments anon

Here's what I feel I need
>actual structure, unsure if I'm 3D anything
>Values
VALUES
>Loomis
Help, how to improve faces?

>>5143745

The problem is you don't understand the structure so you're just drawing flat shapes/outlines. You need to learn construction and anatomy so you can simplify the body into volumes. Having the volumes overlap creates the illusion of depth.

Here's a shitty sketch

Can’t focus.

It’s be nice to finish something. Am I chicken scratching again?

I don't know what I'm doing HAHAHAHAHAH
How can I even attempt to draw a body?
>>5143742
Asking again, can someone tell me how to take this >>5143742 and paint it like this >>5143776

>>5143781
Yes but you're getting better. The left eye isn't quite positioned correctly, and the nose isn't centered on the face. Hold the sketchbook up in front of a mirror and you'll see it immediately.

>>5143218
You've simplified waay too much. Don't draw stick figures like that, and keep the proportions of the individual limbs in mind. The groin marks the halfway point in height for a human.

Here's an example of how Hampton does his gestures. It probably isn't the gold standard, but it's a good thing to shoot for as a beginner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q93lxtoVLJw

Fuck it, I need to improve at bodies and I rarely draw them so here, how to improve here? I want to work on my comic and designs already, I can count the bodies I've drawn in both hands.
>>5143825
>>5143742
>>5143765
>>5143852
>>5140792
>>5141282
Considering some of the things we posted here as of lately, should I really look for another hobby?

>>5143895
Is there hope for improvement? I now, I need to learn construction and shading, VALUES
but how? what should I do? CANT afford to waste more time

>>5143898
If you actually improve but you're just gonna do stuff like this, don't bother.

>>5143899
album cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErEylSua46I
So is there any hope or not?

is using gravure stuff as reference a good thing ?
hair is real hard to draw

Well shit, turns out that limbs are hard.

I can't picture volumes at all, so I guess I'll learn a bit of rendering to help with them before turning back to lineart. Even when I get something clean, it's usually from drawing 50 different lines and picking the one that looks best.

each of these took five minutes, from ref.

>>5142808
No, what you've listed is more than enough for accurate drawing.

>>5143723
Learn how shoulders work my friend

>>5143930
These are really good.

>>5143930
Proko? How long have you been doing gesture?

>>5143930
You're on the right track. A bit rough here and there but some of the simplified forms show a lot of GMI potential.

>>5142721
How do I find the motivation to keep going, and not get distracted?

>>5143957
have you ever touched a real breast?

How do people even manage to vary line weight midstroke?

>>5143983
Brush pen is one way. See pic.
A dip pen or a fountain pen is another way.

>>5143983
digitally, well just press harder

How am I doing?

>>5144013

>>5143955
ask yourself why you draw

>>5142721
Holy fuck that's my drawing lmao
I'm the face of /beg/, not sure if I should be proud or sad
If anyone is wondering why this one hasn't changed it's because I scrapped it

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5143424
god bless you anon

I made this character last night mostly as an early draft for later. Are there any particularly egregious mistakes I made?

how do i into outfits

>>5144049
The proportions of the face look good.
Ear could be a bit taller? I think if you lower the bottom of the ear a bit.
His neck looks really veiny, not sure if that's fabric or what

>>5144056
Thank you, I'll lower the ear a bit and see how it goes.
>His neck looks really veiny, not sure if that's fabric or what
I made it purposefully veiny but you're right, it looks kinda weird

>>5143997
But it seems like you'd sacrifice speed and smoothness if you're trying to do that in the middle of a stroke.

used ref for frogs, faces from imagination, do the face construction generally look ok or any advice on how to improve?

>>5144140
If you’re going for a cutesy simple style I’d suggest mixing up the facial traits, like giving some characters different eyes and noses of different shapes
You could also benefit from some Asaro head practices

>>5144166
want to draw tomoko, but yea it would probably be good to learn to draw more eyes as they vary wildly in the manga, as well as different characters to get new perspectives

I barely figured out how to draw a head and face (barely hair)

How the fuck am I supposed to go from this to being able to draw bodies, and then different motion/gestures?

It seems like an insurmountable task for a faggot like me

>>5144204
NGMI

>>5144140
>faces from imagination
Anon, stop reading Watamote all day if Tomoko is the only thing you can imagine. Go watch some Jojo or something

>>5144115
Not really, you get used to it. changing the brush or tablet response curve to non-linear models kinda helps with smoothness too, and some software does it for you. I think Krita has some sort of rolling average function on pressure but I never bothered to figure out how to set it up.

>>5144140
Did you construct the heads Loomis-style, or were they on the fly? They look nice in a storyboard-y way.

>>5143457
Not my problem you don't know how to apply it

>>5144221
watamote was the reason I started drawing desu
>>5144226
timelapse for a rough example, generally prefer to abuse ctrl z, though the line in the middle of her face is to remind me of how the profile looks to make her more 3d

>>5144241
And actually I'll take a sec to explain it to you.

What you're doing in the drawing is just drawing without thinking of what it's your main goal at the moment, and it shows up.

It seems like you're trying gesture but at the same time anatomy, and proportions, and you're failing in everything, aim for only one and focus, in my opinion you should start with proportions and avoid the other ones because it's going to be overwhelming for you.

Also yes, use a fucking pencil, erase your mistakes and think what to do to fix them.

Recently started playing around with colored pencils. Any tips on how to apply the correct amount of pressure how you want? I feel like I can do it but sometimes the pallet doesn't come out as I want to. I would also like to learn how I can color darker shades without breaking my pencils or sheet.

do you ink part with intricate design like pattern on dress or tiara?

Whenever I try to study my mind inevitably wanders to some random bullshit and I can't stop thinking about it, and it ultimately leads to me not absorbing any information from studying, be it readong or drawing
I don't think I have ADD but this happens constantly and it's really frustrating and I have no idea how to just focus

>>5144293
listening to music kind of helps me

Is this worth coloring?

>>5144299
Got any recommendations? Most of the music I like is lyrical which I imagine would only exacerbate the problem.

>>5144271
holy shit bro loosen that grip i can see how hard you pushed that pencil into the paper. try using a technical pencil to loosen that grip

>>5144303
yes it looks pretty good not my style but i can see you understand how fforms work villppu would be proud

>>5144303
Tiny noodle arms

>>5144311
>>5144318
Thanks for the tips

>>5144303
Yes.

>>5144303
the bands around her chest have zero impact on her body, it just looks like you drew lines on her torso

why does it look shit

>>5144364
resized version

How do I train myself to see volumetrically

>>5144364
too busy watching anime streamsluts instead of studying

>>5144308
Yeah, I know I press too hard but I don't know how else to achieve uniformity. Even when layering I tend to basically stab the paper at the end.

>>5144378
but what to study

>>5143470
Seconding this question. Is there a drawing manual or artist's channel that uses boxes for whole figure at regular base, instead of three Vilppu pages?

>>5144251
I didn't draw that, I'm just calling your advice shit.

>>5143939
can you redline it. i dont understand

>>5144383
japanese so you can learn straight from the source.

>>5144366
Where is the nose but unironically. Eyes feel too low. Skin color makes her look like a cancer patient. Oddly enough it feels 3D but in like, a shitty PS2 shaded kind of way. Also work on your hands. Check that the eyes are actually looking in the same direction. It's kind of ok overall but the little things tend to add up

>>5144303
Fuck yes. Go for it

>>5144364
This is the most I can do without redrawing major portions of it. I'll run down by some of the reasons it looked off
This is gonna sound mean, please bare with me, this is in the right direction, you just need to keep going.
>no eyebrows
>no irises
>no reflection in the eyes
>gray for eyes and mouth is perfect plain gray (often not the case) and too dark
>dead too desaturated colors
>weird spot shading on the hands
>weird inflated brow
>no hair after the brow, giving the shape
>really long neck
>weirdly shaped hood
>the lines for the mouth and the neck should be more subtle and well thought out, otherwise they are intrusive and will ruin the work
Everything else is fine, these are decent hands, arms, and torso. I don't think you are beg, you obviously understand the fundamentals, you passed that hurdle, you just need to keep drawing.

>>5144366
I'd say
>straight lines on arms instead of curves
>left hand's fingers too big and at weird angle
>left shoulder probably too high
>giant neck
>no nose
>sweatshirt should be baggy around the chest too

along with all kind of stuff I'm too /beg/ to notice

>>5144303
There's some shit to nitpick, but overall, def worth coloring. Put on yur Nikes.

>>5144303
Would. Also do it

>>5144413
>>5144432
>>5144438
thanks for advices. i still do think i am beg at least in especially terms of colors and values, and your advice just confirmed that for me. i'll keep drawing desu

>>5144330
>>5144345
>>5144423
>>5144441
>>5144442
Thanks for the input, everyone. I'll try to fix what I can, digitally when I scan it in.

>>5144445
beg is just an /ic/ tag in order to keep people who still need to learn fundies in one place. It has no real meaning, art is vast and filled with many fields to be good at, instead of thinking you are this or that just keep pushing yourself forward. properly evaluating your individual skills is more important than fitting a title.

>>5144445
I agree with >>5144453
Godspeed on improving, anon

>>5143673
I will try implement it in my next drawing, thanks anon.

I didn't trace the eye, just followed the reference sheet.

not sure if this is too /beg/-tier so apologies
does kistler elaborate on cast shadows in later chapters? obviously theyre not supposed to be gradient, just not sure how exactly to make them properly.

>>5144539
Rub your thumb on the paper to smooth it a bit

>>5143895
No replies huh? Very well /beg/ I won't let this one slide

>>5144634
meds

>>5142721
Rate my art anons

daily cowboy doodle

>>5144645
Come on, is there any hope of improvement? How?

>>5142721
first time trying to do something like this

I am back /beg/
I cant make it in the real world, back to training.

>>5143761
>>5143831
ok thanks, trying clean lines always throws me off, need to take some steps back, heres the original pic no idea where its from

>>5144734
wtf are that dudes legs

>>5144749
you mean my drawing or the reference?

>>5144013
>>5144015
Thumbnail looks good, actual pic doesn't.

>>5144783
any advice on how to do better?

Finally started massage therapy school and we have to learn the parts of the skeleton

can't wait to show off my power level (fall flat on my face) of vilppu knowledge by drawing a skull on the board in front of my korean senpai and all the azn qt3.14's and correctly labeling all the parts !!!

>>5144757
the ref

>>5144539
If you have an outline for your shadow, they're supposed to fade out to that point but not past it. Your shadow diffuses from its origin (your box) because you have extra light that comes in from the outside. Your lines define the farthest your shadow can go.
Listen to >>5144571 and use your thumb to smooth the shadow out so it looks more natural

>>5143460
draw more taimanin

>>5144790
do this on a photo pls

>>5144790
do artists really need to know all these shits just to draw a head?

>>5144818
are you stupid?

>>5144790
>mfw rolling into the art discussion knowing all the bone and muscle names thanks to eaton sama

the waves are easily the hardest

>>5144025
I picked it because it was something that looked overtly /BEG/ while still looking
like it was heading down the right path in terms of studying fundamentals and
improving in general.

I'm sad to know you scrapped it anon.

>>5143761
Lindsay Capuano?

I'm pretty sure I fucked up the head/face but otherwise how'd I do

>>5144880
Wow, thanks for that. Also it's not completely scrapped I guess, I decided to go a different path with the video course I'm doing
I'm gonna watch the videos to get a feel for what I should be looking at then use a reference to try and draw it out so I figured it would be better to start from scratch. I'll post an updated one probably after I wake up

>>5144818

i dont think you need to know ALL the bones and their names, definitely the more you know the easier it is to figure out the planes

>>5144801

here is what was given to me

>mfw actually having fun
>with a pencil

over the new years my moms friends 3 daughters used my cintiq and drew some pictures, id like to dump those doodles now

heres a fox

>>5144985

unicorn

>>5144985
>>5144988

girl

thats it

>>5144945
what did you block out
better not be something unfun you did with your pencil...

>>5144990
something that's for private eyes ONLY

Wish my art was consistently good

>>5144013
>>5144015
same dude that made these.
Is this a good sketch? Did I manage to give it volume?

>>5144380
If the colours don't look very vibrant when you're not pressing down really hard, then it's likely because you have shit pencils.

Complete /beg/ first time drawing.

>>5144988
SOUL

>>5145040
gmi

drew this today for /v/.
Been taking a break for a few weeks now so drawing again feels awkward like I forgot everything or something

And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright.
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine.
>>5143895
/BEG/ I NEED YOUR HELP

after making boxes and learning about perspective, should I go to shading, gesture, or anatomy? I'm confused on the pathway to making it.

>>5145088
all at the same time, they need to exist harmoniously

/Beg/ I'm once again asking FOR A REVIEW AND FURTHER INSTRUCTION
>ignoring me won't make me leave, I'll just the module I used on another board, you don't want to meet him
>>5145085
And into my garden stole.
When the night had veiled the pole;
In the morning glad I see,
My foe outstretchd beneath the tree.

Ah! then at times I drooping sit,
And spend many an anxious hour,
Nor in my book can I take delight,
Nor sit in learnings bower,
Worn thro' with the dreary shower.

How can the bird that is born for joy,
Sit in a cage and sing.
How can a child when fears annoy.
But droop his tender wing.
And forget his youthful spring.

>>5145099
Huehuehue
Cope dilate

I don't feel like drawing now since my ass is still sore from the butt plug

>>5145108
He. Where thou dwellest, in what grove,
Tell me Fair One, tell me Love;
Where thou thy charming nest dost build,
O thou pride of every field!
She. Yonder stands a lonely tree,
There I live and mourn for thee;
Morning drinks my silent tear,
And evening winds my sorrow bear.

>>5145105
Ah! then at times I drooping sit,
My ass was blissfully drooling with shit,
And spend I diapers many,
Because mommy's should have them all,
If there are any,
Nor jannie would approach me,
As my wee wee would need a plea,
Worn thro' with the dreary shower.

How can the autist who is born for joy,
Sit in a cage and shit himself,oh mommy's boy?
How can he?
But droop a poop upon his tendies.
'Cause they're nor crispy, nor from Wendy's.

>>5145111
just put it back in,

>>5145113
He. Or she? Who shalt dilate?
This ain't a serious debate. But answer me, oh lonely friend.
Because I shall not recommend crave the pooping of thy whooping daily.
I ain't no Bailey, and I see, where of dwellest your holes lie.
And that's no lie. I saw it, like a rotting carcass of a mighty ship, who's mighty spine was cracked like a wip.
Now, let me cum on your lip.
Wouldn't you have a sip?

>>5144890
>>5144880
Not much of a nap but here I am
This is what I ended up with after reevaluating how I wanted to do the video course. The main 3/4 view skeleton is the one I used reference for, mostly for proportions. I think it looks... Ok?
If anybody has any critiques please let me know. This is mostly just referencing things I'm supposed to learn later in the course but it's also pretty much my first time trying to draw people related things

>>5145122
>>5145133

>>5145122
>>5145133
Blake would certainly be astonished reading this, rolling in his grave

>>5145122
>>5145133

>>5144886
I like it. coloring is a bit messy.

How the Chimney-sweeper's cry
Every blackning Church appalls;
And the hapless Soldier's sigh
Runs in blood down Palace walls.

But most thro' midnight streets I hear
How the youthful Harlot's curse
Blasts the new-born Infant's tear,
And blights with plagues the Marriage hearse.

>>5145170
take up poetry instead of art

these threads have an awful ratio of beg to beghelpers.
i think everyone fucked off to discord.

>>5145170
How the sausagy surprise sweeps the chimney of... whom?
Of course a cuck would apply,
And even cease without fight, just to pass by!
But he would only pretend,
Because a wigor is not something he could comprehend,
And thus his chimney would be swept to the bitter end,
As no one can withstand a mighty lance, rammed through the browny palace.

He screams, he shouts, he makes a fuss,
He brags, he cries, he even squeals!

But most thro' midnight streets I hear
How the youthful nigger
Blasts the fresh-new semen from his Infant rear,
And blights with plagues of cuckold's arse.

>>5145212
Can I get a link?

Last chance before activation
>>5143895

>>5145208
I'm quoting Blake anon.
>>5145218
You fell for the module my friend, if you refuse to help me or give me a review and answer, further instruction then I'm afraid we'll keep using it

>>5142721
I’m already on page 90-something and I feel like I haven’t learned anything new. Am I not using this book as a resource right?

>>5145212
>>5145222
Once there was a tranny, beloved by CNBC.
In it's eternal wisdom the tranny cut off her crusty girl micropenis,
Sewing the head back to the dirty unwashed crotch, thus making itself a clit.
Making use of plastic pizza knife tranny split the flesh open,
Soon after stuffing there mummified hotdog from the crusty stained mountains of trash.
The vagoo dripped with goo,
And thus tranny defied god and created an abomination in the face of itself to the earth and all the people.

>>5145227
> you fell for the module
I'm pretty sure the module is the reason people don't want to help you in the first place dude

>>5145288
I can make the module stop posting the things the module stops but only if you give us further instruction

>>5145230
drawing a ton of cubes like most books tell you to is the kind of practice that is anything but useless, but feels like it anyway.
Try drawing mechs or sketching people to check if you're getting it

>>5145297
idc desu I come here once every couple of months to get some advice. Chances are that you'll be gone when I come back here.

>>5145316
The module "killed" two generals already, went endemic, believe me I don't want him to post here but you got to help me out

?????????????????
thanks

>>5145319
also this

>>5145319
and this

>decide doing fundies is boring
>try some request on a drawthread
>get sad

well, back to fundies I guess. does anyone still have the link to the mega folder full of books and videos people were posting last week ?

Why is /beg/ telling me to look for another hobby? I've seen people post way worse and they don't get that

>>5145318
doubt I could help you anyway. And how is anyone supposed to help you if you don't say what you need help with in the first place?

>>5145344
just give up you're only shitting up the thread

>>5144734
That man is deformed

>>5144734
It looks pretty good. You choose a feminine model so obviously he has skinny legs and a fem built but otherwise it's good

>>5145366
lol I'm guessing it's the pose, looks very uncomfortable

>>5145338
Here is the link
https://mega.nz/folder/gZ0iwSLB#8rPfYlho_alFZ1Nj3Rq6Bw

>>5145416
thanks

>>5145423
Also it is good to do some other drawing beside studying, it helps you learn what you need to focus on.

>>5145422
Those clothes are extremely flat. I recommend pic related

>>5145484
...is that?

>>5145490

I started doing light and shadow stuff
is this okay?
also how to know if have my screen with too low or too high brightness?
>>5144749
>>5145366
kek
>>5144874
yeah, keep it up!
>>5144993
oh wow
>>5144988
fun

Any good resourced on (anime) hair?
Specifically when it's hanging in an unusual way.
Pic related is the best I can come up with and that's with a very easy hairstyle.

>>5145521
FTFY protip gravity goes down

V
V
V

>>5145527
Thanks, I'll remember it.
Problem is that I don't want to only draw spikes and their deformation is much harder to handle.
Straight down the middle is easy, but what if you have straight bangs? They wouldn't just directly point down, would they?

>>5145365
Not at all sweetheart, again, seen way worse and you're not telling them to quit or change hobbies, I'm staying for as long as it takes

>>5145535
*non spike deformation is much harder to handle

>>5145521
> any good resource on anime hair?
Anime/manga probably. Just copy that shit. Everyone does the same thing anyway so no one is gonna complain about it

>>5145539
I'm assuming it's one or two crabs who pick a random person whose art they recognize and try to bully them.
The same thing happened to some other guy a few weeks back.
Honestly, my advice is only post here to ask questions of general nature or finished work for feedback, but leave after you post and look at the feedback it the next day. Don't browse this thread or board while drawing, it'll just hinder you.

>>5145535
I personally hate spikes of hair drawn like that. Not saying it’s wrong but I think hair looks better drawn as an actual form. Hair doesn’t look, feel or work like banana peels. I’d skip doing spikes altogether and learn to draw hair as a form rather than spiky style. I think it makes it look amateurish because so many Uberbegs draw hair that way. Not just dissing you personally. The face looks cool.

Think about it more like sculpting than drawing, draw a block the shape of the hair and carve it out

>>5145543
Well, still not quitting, I just want to know how to improve my bodies and gesture right now
>>5143895

>>5145539
it’s because your foidspeak has outed you as a female I’m not joking

>>5145551
that's bs

>>5145541
I was thinking about a book or video. The pin2d video about hair regions helped me immensely, but I don't think they have anything about non-upright heads.
>>5145545
I don't actually draw spikes, this was just a last ditch desperation effort of getting anything resembling hair on that head.
I usually put in the base shapes as guides and then draw the hair like pic related.
Is that wrong?
How do I think about it as sculpting?
I feel like the actual shape of hair will most of the time, have a round/droplet form, at least for short styles and the difference would lie in how the strands of hair overlap.

>>5145543
He's definitely not gonna take your advice and he's been doing it for 4 months

>>5144881
thank

>>5145557
But I draw what people tell me to draw, use the resources they mention I just get mad when they dont work
5 months, do you think we are doing alright for 5 months?

>>5145570
Who's your goal artist?
Analyse his drawings with loomis.
Copy him.
Don't waste your damn time posting in this thread. It's literally wasted life you won't ever get back.

>>5145553
It actually is I’m not joking

>>5143460
make a webcomic ,your drawing has personality,lack of technical skill becomes irrelevant when one has the gift of drawing soulfully,and tends to be solved with repetition that relies on imagination

>>5145553
No one says sweetheart except trannys, so you're either that or a condescending roastie

>>5143629
I dont understand your question anon but I suggest you spend time looking at other people's art,follow a lot of artists in twitter and stuff ,technique wise you are not really doing wrong but you need visual library and taste reps or your talent risks going to waste

>>5145586
i DON't know, I have something in MIND but im not brave enough to try IT
You SEE, akira alira guy, that looks cool
fashion magazines draw clothes like fucking cool and i love it, i want that for my oc designs but i cant draw them since i lack the skill or talent anon
help me please
>>5145629
pic related and a song for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWtfOHBF1_w

>>5143895
>need to improve at bodies and I rarely draw them
>rarely draw them
That's all you need to fix.Draw a lot of bodies from imagination and from reference,learn how they work and think of it a lot,compare your work to work that you like.It may take a month or a year,but its the only surefire way to improve.You'll do well.Also remember not to get stressed and take breaks if you feel like you're burning out.Quality of output goes downhill when one is not at one's best shape,take care of yourself,sleep well and dont push yourself too hard.Good luck.

>>5145633
Oh, you're a shizo. Carry on then.

>>5145637
But they told me to quit
>>5145595
>>5145611
>>5145614
>>5145618
sO what SHOULD i do? I dont understand
I dont want to quit but after 5 MONTHS of no improvement, what if theyre right?

>>5145642
I was angry with my friend;
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.

>>5145633
i wouldnt normally recommend this but do you have a discord you could post or some shit? maybe someone here would be willing to add you and listen to your schizo ramblings instead of you shitting up the general literally every thread

>>5145644
Fuck off you annoying cunt. Your drawing isn't that bad. It's your retarded personality and posting habits are. You were born to leddit.

>>5145665
And I waterd it in fears,
Night & morning with my tears:
And I sunned it with smiles,
And with soft deceitful wiles.
>>5145665
is there hope for improvement, 5 months anon
if I improve and can work on my comic then I fuck off, it's that simple

>>5145644
If people tell you to quit then you're getting crabbed.People can always get better.My opinion is that what you lack isn't skill,but taste.
Your stuff is ugly,but it's not because there's anything wrong with your eyes or hands,it's because you lack taste .Watch anime,cartoons,paintings,anything,and in great quantities,develop a sense of "This is what I like" and draw according to that.

>>5144052
You practice them.Your anatomy also needs more practice,but it's not too far from looking good.Get a better sense of form and anatomy ,it's all you're lacking to be the kind of guy that does well on twitter in my opinion

>>5145679
Point out the anatomy flaws. Surprised I even got a reply I was about to leave the thread

>>5145672
but 5 months, I dont im worth the crabbing, no one expects anything from me, right? So So SO I think that what if they're right, what if Im just wasting my time
I know what youre trying to say
I lack the "human" (god this mammal body is so gross) aspect and touch to drawings, Im too afraid to do something I like, I cant color them the way I like because I shouldnt use colors at all unless I learn values
I cant do bodies
>>5144052
OR SOMEthing liek this
I stop myself before finishing it since I know theyll be bad

>>5145687
You shouldnt think of what people expect of you,do things because you want to.If you dont like drawing or dont want to draw for yourself,then you are wasting your time.If you want to draw then you aren't.
Plus 5 months isn't as much as you think.You're too used to people that get good in no time,or that lie about how long it took them to get good.And if you're slower than the rest,that doesn't matter,what matters is that you get where you want to get,even if it takes you longer than it'd take others.

>>5145694
GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DRAW A TEST
SOMETHING TO SEE IF THERE'S HOPE FOR IMPROVEMENT, SOMETHING ANYTHING
ILL DO AS MANY AS IT TAKES TO GET IT RIGHT
or a single attempt to keep it pure
anything PLEASE

>>5145700
I think this website is taking a toll on your mental health.

>>5142884
I think you want to have an outlet for creativity but you haven't put in any effort to learn the fundamentals so you settle for abstract doodles and try to pass it off as "muy trippy art"

>>5145708
Give me something please,

>>5142899
her tit is the shape of a beach ball and its position implies it's either glued to her arm or rolling around the ribcage, but other than that nothing too offensive here, now finish it

>>5142993
A) Make this layer low opacity under another layer and B) learn the entire human sum of knowledge pertaining to art fundamentals and apply that over your sketch

Why are people still responding to schizo? He wont listen anyway.

>>5145700
Draw something you particularly have a hard time with. Idk try some hands or some difficult poses

>>5143207
her ribcage is melting, and where are her extremities?

>>5145732
I want to get better I try all the resources Im told to use
if they dont work i come to whine yes but i try them
>>5145735
So figure drawing with shading then? Fine
Would you care to set a time limit?

>>5145700
cringe

>>5145739
You're not "trying" these resources you fucking imbecile, you're taking one look at them and saying "it's too haaard" and trying to find someone with a magic spell that will make you instantly improve with zero effort. 95% of art is work, so if you can't stomach that just give up

>>5145743
FOR FOUR 4 MONTHS WE DID FUNDIES LIKE CRAZY, EVERY SINGLE DAY
FUNDIES AND MORE FUNDIES YET PROGRESS NEVER SHOWED UP
FOUR MONTHS ENTIRELY WASTED, MAKE BELIEF SKILL
TO WASTE ANOTHER HAS BEEN
DEVASTATING
RESOURCES HAVE BEEN TRIED AND WE CAN'T IMPROVE OR AM I JUST NOT SEEING IT?

alright bros i have tried multiple times, i have no idea how to go about shading something like this ship any pointers would be appreciated

>>5145743
can someone like me become GMI? I need to be amazing at this, i WANT it, I crave it, people praise work that's even worse than mine, yet I have no talent
call them GMI? tHEY only called me GMI once ONCE
isnt that telling you something?
Be HONEST with us, has there been improvement in 5 months? ignore my personality, talking about the drawings, can I improve?

>>5145748
when you complete a drawing, do you analyse it for what is good and bad about it

FLAT COLORS LAID DOWN
WE RUNNIN' THIS, LET'S GO

>>5145744
Listen to me very carefully. If you keep drawing you will get better. This process takes years, not four fucking months. Stop bitching and spend all the free time you now have on drawing.

>More fun

>>5145745
Well where are the sources of light supposed to be coming from...?

>>5145739
A time limit? Depends on how much experience you have with the exercise. If you have no experience then do it without worrying about a time limit, if you feel somewhat experienced try it in 30 minutes, and if you feel cocky do it in 5 minutes. If you've only been drawing for 5 months I'd say you should try it without a time limit.

>>5145758
Anyone else think Loomis looked like one of these characters irl?

>>5145745
I'm sorry master, but I must go all out just this once.
RINNEBYAKUSHARINGAN NO JUTSU

>>5145748
Also stop with this GMI bullshit. It's a meme. Don't take it seriously. Everyone can make it, talent is a fucking myth. You need effort, consistency and time. Lots of all of those. Think a lot of all of those three, then think more than that, and you're gonna need even MORE to become a master. But most of all you need to enjoy yourself. If you don't have fun while drawing you're wasting your time, and I'm not saying this as some sort of reverse psychology bullshit, I really mean it, if you don't enjoy drawing then you shouldn't do it.

>>5145779
You know those freaky fetish images where Asuka transforms into a horse while Rei becomes her saddle? I had a nightmare about this, except instead of Reimu becoming a training bra or something, it was some poor man being foreverially Loomisized by Andrew Loomis.

>>5145775
the engines i suppose, i imagine there wouldn't be much light in space

>>5145840
Well if it's not close to a star then it should basically be a pitch-black silhouette, except for the engines, which would illuminate the plane theyre sitting on quite a bit, as well as the tips of the wings, where that light would reach as well. Also what's the blurry haze in the middle of the background? Does it need to exist? Does it add anything to your drawing? Should we even be able to see the cockpit and top of the ship from this angle since the back of the ship seems to be facing us at 90 degrees?

>>5145852
out of all the things I didn't think of the silhouette option
>blurry haze in the middle of the background
distant galaxy, space itself has a glow to it, though not as pronounced as long exposure cameras
>90 degrees
does it look that way? I was going more for 70-80 ish, but I see the issue

thanks
i would try this and post but its really late here

>>5143325
that's looking nice anon, good stuff!

>>5145877
Personally I would redo that white spot in the background and make it more closely resemble something more recognizable, whether you settle on a star or nebula or actual galactic formation, if not cut it altogether. And yes, the perfect circles on the back of the ship make it look like we're facing it dead-on, so if you were to lessen their degree a bit it would make more sense to be able to see the top of the ship

>>5145877
It's worth considering that space is the blackest black you could ever see if you were out there in the middle of it and not on a planet that is constantly lit by at least one nearby body at any given moment. You know how black it is outside when it's nighttime and the sky is completely covered by thick clouds? That's still relatively bright compared to being in the middle of space with no nearby light source at all

>>5145776
I can't do it, I'm only only going to fail
don't even remember what I wanted to draw, this is bullshit
I wish I had talent no but it's always me the one that gets shafted
fuck all the others

New Thread:

>>5145964
>>5145964
>>5145964

>>5145509
more

>>5144305
Try some ambient or synth music anon, it helps me focus lately

Not sure if the anon I was shilling it to is still around but does anyone want Creature Art Teacher's human anatomy course? I finally got it uploaded

>>5146037
sure post it

>>5146049
Posting in new thread

What's the absolute essential reading list?
What drills should I do every day like the box challenge?

>>5144650
Not bad but still to be polished, feels like theres a lack of consistency with the width of your lineart, some are way too thick IMO

>>5145671
And I waterd it in semen,
Night & morning cooking with mens tears:
And I did it with smiles,
And with soft deceitful wiles.

Hi guys. I have got an old Huion 610PRO. I've always drawn for leisure. Now, I want to draw in a more formal way, so I'm going to read and practice some books/guides. My question:

Should I use the tablet from beginning? Or should I first do that exercises with paper and pencil and after use the tablet?

>>5143925
I feel your pain

>>5143945
I don't think proko would post here

>>5143955
atomic habits

>>5143957
it looks like the fingers are cutting the meat

>>5144650
05/10 - it is almost good

>>5144945
>having fun with a pencil
did you stick it in your but? that is how it done right?

>>5145008
well, it is consistent

>>5145069
pretty ok, my only problem with it is how the arms fit in the jacket, it doesn't look like it is getting in to it. because the jacket dont conform to their shapes

>>5145319
youre wellcome

>>5142978
My example isn't perfect but your perspective seems to go off once you hit the tail, it looks like near the base it starts to veer left when the end suggests its hanging over.

I dont know if this is useful on tablet, but it's quite relaxing.

I think this is going better.

What about 1px brush without AA and opacity? I like how it's feel and look, but can it runs my learning process? Hard round isn't so cute.