/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5031099
Obviously not, ngmi fag. Keep shitposting

>>5031114
I will draw

and

I will prove myself wrong

These threads enable people to cry more than practice

I don't respect people who use 3D to help with poses, backgrounds, etc. Too nice to say anything though.

>spent the last 3 months grinding perspective and forms throught various exercises because I wanted to draw hard surfaces stuff
>learn to create complex forms from imagination while drawing vehicules from reference
>Become more comfortable with drawing simplist mechs and vehicules
>forgot to draw humans during this period
>affraid by the idea of going throught 6 more months of studies in 2021 in order to create a decent character

Fuck

>>5031207

"I don't respect people who gimp themselves when doing exercises"

Lol do you draw with your pen between your teeth too?

Looking for a kind beg fellow to share notes with and keep accountable. Post discord if interested.

>>5031240
When I see a post like yours I remember all the people I've met on my art journey so far and how they've slowly lost interest in trying harder

Having my work stolen several times has made it impossible for me to trust anyone online. The only friend I have in real life is unavailable for at least the next year. It's lonely and frustrating, and I have no feedback to work with. I'm just hoping I can make it through this without unknowingly shitting up my art style.

>>5031099
I hate it when I have an idea for something, and then later I find out that an artist whose worse than me drew it already

>feeling bad about how shitty my art is
>browse 4chan all day

>>5031259
Genuinely curious, how does a digital copy of an art got 'stolen'? If you meant the ideas, every ideas posted online is fair game for reinterpretation imo

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FUCKING HATE HANDS

I feel like I've been in a huge slump for a while now. I don't feel like doing anything, no drawing, no games, no reading. I just waste my days doing nothing waiting for it to end and I don't know where I wanna go now. Any and all motivation has left me to do anything to improve or challenge myself or even have fun doing things. Since I have nothing really going for me or tying me down I feel like ending just to escape the cycle but I'm too much of a bitch for that.
Sorry for blog

>>5031492
shit bro that's me, stopped drawing a couple of months ago, can't get back

>all the good artists you know either went to art school or had a lot of support throughout their life
can a loser like me ever get good?

>>5031595
no, give up now

>>5031236
3D slave cope

>>5031595
probably not, but just b urself m8

>>5031595
same anon, lets get good and show eachother its possible

>>5031635
it just really stinks, the more interviews i hear, the more i talk to art friends about their lives
the more you realize how nothing in your life relates to someone who's actually a good artist

I'm so so happy I figured out drawing ergonomics. I'm literally working 12 hours a day now with no problems whatsoever. I made tons of threads here in the past months complaining about trigger finger, tendonitis, rsi, arm problems, but now its all gone. Fuck.

>>5031685
Is that your drawing? Nice

>>5031707
no, its not

>>5031709
pathetic

Painting hair is so fucking hard

>>5031709
Oh

>>5031709
Whats the point then?

>>5031711
>>5031717
>>5031757
:(

>>5031236
I feel sad for people who think this.

>>5031247
I don't remember them. They quit because they were weak.

>>5031486
just draw a box, and then another box the same size. then split the second box into 4 boxes, and then split those 4 boxes into 3 smaller boxes. it's easier to rotate them because you have those 4 boxes for reference. now go back and draw another 3 smaller boxes on your first box.
finally, to the side of your boxes, draw a hand, which will now feel painless in comparison.

>>5031482
I mean blatantly traced, and character designs lifted directly from my characters. The traces weren't even reinterpreted, they were the same images redrawn exactly and passed off as someone else's work. But you're right, anything I post online is up for grabs and there's nothing I can do about it, hence why I don't trust anyone online anymore. My vent wasn't that work was stolen, but that I don't have any friends I can trust

>>5031910
Are you the guy who thinks that japanese artist who drew nonon from kill la kill traced your work? Saw that thread a few months ago and the op got destroyed
If not I'm curious to see your work

>>5031914
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, I haven't been into anime in a decade. I'd post my work here but I have a retardedly distinct stylization and absolutely no desire to be recognized on 4chan. I just use /ic/ to post in vent threads and occasionally help anons if I can.

>>5031910
I think the rule of 'friends come and go, but for the precious few you should hold on' applies to both online and real life.
Pretty much one of the reasons we grinds for more friends, that trustworthy precious friend is a super rare SSS tier drop. Fuck even life is a gacha

>>5031949
I think I have a better chance at winning the lottery than I would at making a new trustworthy friend any time soon. Fuck it I might as well try, at least I can be lonely with a million dollars.

god i fucking hate learning digital, 90% of the time it just feels like im trying to fight the software trying to get it to do what I want it to do. its so fucking annoying, its like I spend more time dicking with layers and tool setting then actually drawing

>2015
I want to be a skilled and recognized artist.

>2020
I want to be a skilled and recognized artist.

>>5032030
>2015
Want to have fun and draw with friends
>2020
Fuck fun drawing and friends

>>5032002
thats probably because you are

>>5032002
When you feel that way, you should hide your layer menu and stick to one layer, use a small pen tool and the eraser, nothing else from there for a while

I can't stop loving her

>>5031136
I took it that i'm ngmi/have no potential so I have the mental freedom practice at my leisure.

>>5031136
Speak for yourself, I already embraced my inability to make it.

>>5032030
>2015
>have no skill but have skilled friends
>2020
>no skill nor friends

>>5031910
>But you're right, anything I post online is up for grabs and there's nothing I can do about it
Stop posting online like a cuck. You are nothing but content to the people around you, this is just how humanity is.

I come here for copy pastas

>>5032237
wrong board fag
try /b/

hate it when people put commissions on a pedestal

I hate digital art software so much

I've used CSP for a while now, and while I never really found the painting to be very good, the line art worked fine. On top of that the tapering and pressure curves seemed very weird with minimal variation but I just figured that was how everything worked.

So I tried Photoshop just now since I heard that painting in it is better, and voila, pressure works exactly as you'd expect it to with proper tapering and variation where I can go from a very thin line to a very thick one. Mixing colours and the brush engine seems better too.
However, the user interface and logic of Photoshop is absolutely awful. Do all of you photoshop users really put up with this shit? It's not like CSP is fantastic in that regard either, but even such a simple thing as rotating a canvas by a dew degrees using a wheel on my tablet simply doesn't work without going into a config file and editing it with a text editor. Yeah sure I can manually input "rotate 15 degrees clockwise" by typing it in, but it's such a hamfisted way of doing it. Alternatively I can select the rotation tool, but again it doesn't work with the wheel. Why is there no option to set a keyboard shortcut for rotating 15 degrees clockwise, and 15 degrees counter clockwise so that I can map those to whatever I feel like. There is only the 90 degree rotation.
There is also no info on where I can find the setting to rebind the function where I switch my brush to a transparent colour. Online just says "use the tilde key" but it doesn't work and I need to rebind it, yet I can't find it in the options.

Why does digital painting have to be this unintuitive and garbage. Maybe I'm just retarded, but it shouldn't be this tedious to set up.
FUCK

I just impulse purchased a Cintiq pro 24 because I believe if I did so, it would make me practice more. But I know it won't. I travel to comiket every year because I tell myself I'm doing it to learn from artists. But I never put any action into practicing. I want to be good at art but keep thinking I can throw money at problems rather than practice.

I fucked up and fed a cat that hangs around my apartment complex now he sits at my door every day at approx. 6 45 am and returns at 7pm and meows and makes so much god damn noise its annoying af.

He tries to come inside whenever I open the door, but I kick him back out because I dont want to get in trouble and violate my lease (No Pets Policy). I feel bad but at the same time I don't want this fucking cat to keep doing this shit every day.

I just dreamed I was on a date, then I woke up to the sad reality I live in, why even my dreams mock me, I couldn't even see her face so I could draw her later

>>5032498
Same, but not really a date, we were just hanging out a lot. The only times I've ever had a gf was in my dreams

>>5032387
Same mindset but things change when I got Samsung S7. Maybe because of the portability and the ease of drawing anywhere anytime made me draw more often; I also found that drawing on the sofa is very comfy. I drew more this month that an entire previous year

My main goal is to produce one porn loop per month and make 5k dollars on patreon and then act like I know nobody

>>5032415
If you're willing to spend money, motion activated air can works like charm. Harmless to the cat too.

fuuuck i finally realized ive been symbol drawing this whole time, that's why my shit lacked depth and volume and just looked straight up weird

aaaaa im happy

My best friend died three and a half years ago and I still have dreams about him. I just woke up from one where he saw my new art and said he liked it and I’m just so sad right now. I’m trying so hard to be someone he’d be proud of and I’m doing great in life but what am I even doing all this for? He’s not here.

>>5031099
Had a pretty terrible weekend art-wise. Been very unhappy with pretty much everything I did.
Last couple of weeks I've been trying to push myself to draw more and I'm happy with the results, but I think it caused me to slowly drift towards a quantity over quality mindset. Definitely need to rethink how do things a little.

>>5032415
Try to call some animal association to see if they can pick it up.

This is so tiresome. Perhaps my time management is shit, but it's really hard balancing between that fucking freelance and university. Plus concurrents are on the rise, cutting some thick part of the market. Now I face the option of either cutting my prices or git gud asap and hold my ground.
>And all this shit at the noon of finals week.
>And my laptop broke two days prior to this post.
>And muh tablet died off too.
All I have is a chink android tablet with free drawing software and semi-decent stylus. And no money.
And I started to fuck up everything about uh 'drawings'.
To sum up, I ended up being shoved up in the deepest ass ever in my entire life.

>>5032579
>>5032657
I just wanted to give him a full belly, but now he thinks I want to take care of him or something. I don't think he's a feral cat, looks like he used to have owners but they dumped him for whatever reason.

If I call animal control, then they are just going to euthanize him and I don't want that on my conscience .

>>5032698
>If I call animal control, then they are just going to euthanize him and I don't want that on my conscience .
Not animal control, more like a rescue association or some kind of volunteer thing. There are surely people like that in your area and they will come pick it up if you explain.

>>5031678
I'm poor as fuck and never gone to art school. Still happy with my art and involved in a few circles of creatives. That being said I wasn't around many other artists until I moved to a city and lived with art students.

If you are passionate enough (and have good taste) then being a loser won't stop you. All of your favorite artists were probably losers.

>Draw from your shoulder they said
>infraspinatus hurts after 4 hours of drawing

>Apply to a job to help with an art book, its just a few pages of illustrations to go with a sketchbook
>Get the job
>Job goes well enough, get another small job from same company
>It been printed a lot, its available at just about every Barnes and Noble, friends from 2000 miles away saw it at their bookstore and sent me pics
>Fast forward 6 months
>Other friend says they saw it at 5Below
>Check their website
>They've stopped advertising the book with my artwork
>Think they are rebranding it to not include it in there... I can't seem to find it anywhere on the web
>I assume all of them have ended up in the bargain bin somewhere


Ouch.
It was definitely not my best work, it was quite rushed.

>>5032791
post work

>>5032791
It was just a job to you
Go forth and create a book under your own terms

>>5032773
are you using a glove? You need to rest your hand on the surface and your hand can't glide properly without the artist's glove

>>5032791
Who cares? You got paid, it’s a job, you know you can make better work than that. What is the saying? Water off your back or whatever? Lots of people get their projects deprecated over the years. It’s ok and happens for lots of reasons. Onto the next project, anon!

>>5032687
A former classmate of mine was one of those that 'made it' before she even entered college. What she did was she cuts down her slots by half and on every final month of a semester she would stop freelancing entirely to focus on assignments. On sem breaks she goes full artist mode obviously. That was her routine all the way until graduation.

She got superior gears though; she carried around that expensive wacom mobile studio pro everywhere and the rig in her room was a beast

My oneitis won’t follow my art pages :(

>>5033251
dilate

>>5031685
What are the ergonomics that you figured out? Also pyw, please (read: non-threatening)

>>5031685
pyw (post your wrist)

having a desk day job ruined my standards for commissions, i refuse to work for less than $30 an hour now even though my work is mediocre

>>5033284
>>5033317
I don't want to post my work or my wrist, and I'm only doing 12 hr days because I'm cramming to build a portfolio, but the main ergonomics you want to pay attention to are:

1. Light grip
2. Draw with shoulder

I don't mean a moderate or medium grip. I mean light. Like, brush-pen type of a grip. There's a live video of yoh yoshinari drawing on a cintiq on youtube; check it out, he's barely tapping the screen and the color is coming out very dark grey or even black in some places. He's drawing with his wrist but that's because the screen he's working with is so small. For me, if I want to make a light mark with my pencil brush in csp, I hold the stylus far back away from the tip (around the midpoint) and I have to hold the stylus at an angle. If the marks you're making are the size of your palm you need to be drawing with your shoulder. Train yourself to do that consciously, it'll take a few days. Wear a glove like I said here >>5033048 so your hand can glide over the screen properly and you're not hovering over the surface and straining your shoulder. Obviously, sit up straight, don't bend your back or neck over too much. I'm not old so I don't have back problems yet, but for you, you might need to take some extra measures there.

>>5031099
>NSFW artist
>study woman figures
>cool, looks like an adult
>study anatomy
>cool, looks like an adult
>use references
>cool, looks like an adult
>having fun and draw from imagination
>young looking girl appears under my pen strokes
>what?
>try again
>same result
>force myself to adjust everything so it looks like an adult
>it breaks my flow
>my drawing now looks dull and lacks of life
>mfw

I am broke and drawing is supposed to be my only way out. I tried to solve this for months but I fear the universe wants to send me a message. A very unpleasant one in our time. And being a loli artist is a no go since it's illegal where I live. I could go SFW but I have no idea if there is money to get in that field. I don't have much time to make a decision. Things were already a mess before, I didn't need that.

>>5033558
I just draw loli with big boonks

Don’t get the wrong idea. I do it to protect myself and my image. I still hate every single one of you.

>>5033618
I love you anon.

I recently rejected an illustrator job for a game because I wasn't confident enough in my skills.
I've been thinking about it a lot.

I'm too fucking lazy to finish pieces reeeee

>>5033102
>Water off your back or whatever?
Dude there's no such saying lmao

>>5031099
I can’t stop thinking about the taste of wine

>>5033622
Shut up. I don't NEED you to love me

>>5033982
Deal with it

Y.. You baka

>>5033632
You just missed your chance to put your foot on the door. They actually expect you to be shit for the first month, no reasonable company actually expecting a stellar performance on the get go.

Trust me, you'll be thinking (and regretting) it for years to come

Watching Jeff Watts critique his students art ruined figure drawing for me, now I see imperfections in everything: my work, other people's work... ignorance is bliss.

>>5034064
>ignorance is bliss
Not really unless you’re fine with being bad

>>5033632
It's not too late. Send them a letter of apology and request a second chance. Explain that you were lacking sleeps by overworking and couldn't think straight at that time.

i cri ;_;

>start drawing
>stop after 45 minutes
>feel guilty
Yep.

>>5034073
That's not ignorance then, that's knowing you're bad.

What exactly do you find so fun about drawing? Why is making marks on a piece of paper so thrilling for so many people?

>>5034171
i don't know i just enjoy it, i don't thing that you need a specific reason to enjoy doing something, of course there are things that i don't enjoy in the process of drawing, but it's just my brain that demands me to do it.

>>5034171
>why do people like to make stuff? i just lie in bed all day and stare at the ceiling and it's great. be like me and have a vapid existence devoid of creativity and sense of purpose

i would be more polite, if your question wasn't so outright retarded and deliberately provocative

>>5034173
>>5034175
I don't know why I enjoy drawing either. But I know I like it. I'm just afraid I'll stop enjoying it someday and I just wanted some thoughts from other people why its fun. People don't find math fun. People don't find washing the dishes fun. So why should drawing be fun? You're not hanging out with friends or loved ones. You're not competing and winning a competition. Usually inherently fun things have a shared counterparts in the animal world. Pups like playing with each other. Bears wrestle each other. But animals don't make stuff for the sake of making stuff.

>>5034180
oh, sorry. from how you worded your question, it sounded like you were some random faggot who wandered here from /b/ and wanted to stir shit by asking stupid questions. i guess i can see how it isn't a stupid question, it was just phrased weird.

i guess i don't know why i like drawing. i like making things, i always have. when i make something and do a good job i feel a sense of accomplishment and pride that i did it well. the same thing applies to drawing, and it's one of the oldest forms of expression, there's so much rich history to it. i can't understand why anyone wouldn't want to draw and why they wouldn't find it fun. i suppose for people who never learned it, and all they know how to make are stick figures, i can see how it would be easy to get frustrated and feel like your time would be better spent doing something else, i've done that plenty of times with other things and even with drawing, but i suppose the people who get better are the ones who always gravitate back to it because of a feeling of being compelled to improve. you want to get better because it feels good to climb mountains, or beat your previous record for how fast you can run a mile. it's just a human thing to want to do things better than you did last time you tried.

also, there are people who think math is fun, they're just hard to find. you'd be much harder pressed to find someone who thinks washing dishes is fun because how do you improve at that? a lobotomite can wash dishes just as well as the best dish washer in the world, if you can hold a scrubber in your hand then you are already at peak dish washing performance. people hang out with friends and loved ones sometimes when they draw. just being next to someone you like being around, even if you're each doing your own thing, makes the loneliness go away.

>>5034180
>>5034197
you are competing, but you don't have to compete against someone else, you compete against yourself by doing it better this time than how you did it last time. you win at the competition against yourself when you see tangible improvement. why humans like to engage in such rich creative activities compared to other animals is the question of the ages and you can look at millennia of philosophers' works to see plenty of hypothesizing

I've been staring at my own drawing for several hours now, admiring how beautiful it is. Anybody else relate?

I just want to stop looking at art because of how jealous it makes me and how much it makes me wish that I could draw like other people, or how my own stuff will never be like the artists I obsess over. Whats the best way to get off the internet in a time of this pandemic? I just want to be in my own bubble with nothing else existing for a good while with no worry of what others are making, but I have online classes to deal with so the temptation to open a new tab and look at something online is too strong.

>>5034093
Tell almightybass to kill themselves

>>5034267
Instead of artificially trying to gimp yourself in a way you already know won't work, why not try to change your outlook instead?
People have this nu- notion that pride is some kind of reward or a motivator in and of itself. But this is nonsense. All that you can ever do guided by pride is negative. It's always a divisive mechanism between people, and it's always artificial. It can be a subtle difference between enjoyment and pride, but one is free, the other is slavery.
You can only do yourself, other people, and your art a favor by dropping it. (And just being happy with it in the now) That feeling of not being good enough is for pretentious catty fags. Let them keep it. You'll be better off.

>try to draw pic related
>somehow manage to have less SOUL and do worse than a guy who's almost like an outsider artist and probably draws his shit in like 10 minutes
The ride just never ends.

>>5034396
Maybe, but so what?

Came across this art account at random and this dude is venting for like a whole month 1/2 and he sounds eerily familiar and draws familiar to someone else I knew. I can feel the hurt from their posts, wasn't pleasant.

>>5031099
I found a money bill ($5 worth), it felt awful. wtf?! it was just there lying on the floor and people was passing by it without giving a fuck to it. it seemed to be a waste so I took. it is funny tho I find coins all the time and never felt anything taking it home. maybe it is because it was worth more. I hope never find another one ever again. also a guy asked me to buy something for him to eat, I went with him to a store to buy something, the woman in the store treated us so badly, it was like I was doing something wrong, they probably know him or something it felt awful too. why everything is bad? there is something wrong with my brain. I don't wanna leave home anymore. good thing I don't have a choice else I would totally be a hikikomori. when this pandemic is over I will start doing some active outside meet new people, maybe some drink and draw stuff or some martial arts hopefully this will do something.

>want to make Twitch to boost my work
>I'm extremely reserved and hate the thought of strangers "knowing" me

>>5034943
Same....same.

>>5034396
this looks cute anon.

>>5034943
wear a helmet and communicate in boops and beeps

>>5034943
>want my comics/art to be popular
>don't want to be known as a person
It is a difficult balance, I'm not even in it for money I just want to see lots of people enjoy my stuff
>>5034396
SOUL requires confidence. Not confidence in your abilities, but confidence that you genuinely love the subject you're drawing. Others with SOUL can tell when you really love the thing you're drawing, even if you've drawn it poorly. Children are the best at this, because they aren't bogged down by second guessing, they just fucking love tigers or whatever.

>have fun drawing
>post work expecting praise
>get called beg
>get upset
>try drawing again
>slowly start to feel good again
>finish art
>about to post again
>remember being called beg
>don't post
>don't draw for 3 days
>decide to try and start something
>sketch phase is no longer fun
>struggle to the lining phase
>takes half of a day
>try to lay down flats
>check thread im going to post to and see someone better than me being called beg
>have meltdown and delete drawing
>don't draw for 3 more days
>no longer finish anything
>still don't upload any drawings though
>constantly deleting art even if it took hours to make

>>5033272
I’m a guy

>>5035618
Oh looks its me.

>>5035618
only the strong make it

>>5035618
Lol /beg/

I think I've been shadowbanned on twitter, my tweets don't show up in hashtags using incoginto.

>>5035803
wtf I just tweeted a test tweet, it showed up, when I upload the image, it does'nt show up wtf.

>>5035618

hey man, fuck the crabs. I believe in you. It's not about their thoughts, you know? Only your enjoyment. Just remember that you let them in, and you can just as easily push them out again.

You should draw more, I am going to as well!

>>5035803
>>5035813
WTF!! I uploaded test images, they work fine, when I upload just this image, it doesn't show up at all.

>>5035830
well, fuck my life.

>>5035848
The exact same thing happened to me a 2 months back and I complained about the exact same thing in this very thread.

It's twitter's AI probably thinking your image is porn or something. It'll do the same thing if you upload it on another account and mark your account instant shadowbanned until you remove the image.

>>5035939
But the funny thing is I'm not exactly sure what triggers it because Japanese artists upload loli porn and I don't see their accounts getting hit with this. So really, who knows.

>>5035941
maybe because of hashtags spam? I did 5 hashtags, is it considered spam? also, I just made sure, not only images, every tweet is shadow banned, I can see it for five seconds then it disappears.

>>5036041
I think this image that triggered the ban? it is a shitty doodle sketch which has a lot of errors. I don,t get it.

>>5036050
this image >>5033576

>>5036050
Idk, Twitter is on some bs. Don’t tweet for 48 hours and your account will be fine.
>>5033576
Meanwhile

>>5036062
Could you post the link to this drawing (the one in your post), please?

>>5036067
@saito_aoba

I hate fan art, watch someone stream a DnD game, see people make fan art, i make it out of boredom and jealousy, streamer give me a compliment.
Now I make them every week. Desperate for approval.

>>5036439
Jesus crackhead, get your life in order. Go clean your room.

>>5035618
>have fun drawing
>post work expecting praise
>don't
>draw again
>about to post again
>remember last time
>reevaluate my drawing with a more critical eye and improve it, and improve myself in the process
the system works.

>>5033576
I think you should learn how to draw proper shapes and forms first.

The best way to get anything is to not need it

>>5036569
What is exactly proper shapes and forms? you mean the jaggy lines? or the fucked up prespective?

>>5036676
or maybe anotomy problems? I can now definitely see those, at first, I think the sketch had a not bad form, but it was lost after adding details.

>>5031099
>years ago having lots of fun, drew probably 6+ hours a day everyday filling up books and had hundreds of ideas drawing was my fucking destiny I never felt more purpose
>nowadays I'm leagues better and can probably draw anything with ease but I just feel no drive or desire so nothing happens anymore and my brain feels like it's turned off

I actually have no fucking clue what happened and I honestly feel fucked up over it. I just want to feel drive again.

why does no one talk about the business side of art?

I have nothing against it really but I hate seeing so much genshin and vtubers art. I don't really like to be that guy that hates thing that's popular but genshin really makes me feel a certain type of way when I see 99% of the same shit. Vtubers I feel like it's too much of them going around and I even like a handful.

>>5036676
>>5036685
Google primitive shapes/forms, and organic shapes/forms.

gotta fill all this crap out and waste 5 hours today to keep getting my neetbucks

>>5036792
Stop posting that picture.

>>5036873
Blow me faggot

>>5036876
sure, unzip please

>>5036876
anon is clearly at second mastery according to the examples, it has nothing left to offer him.

>>5036915
Blind. Look up the drawings he posted on the /doodles/ threads.

>>5036792
hmm, thank you anon, I will try to research a bit, also, the picture is cool, it is giving me excitement to draw more seriously

>>5036917

Being an artist made me even less desirable to the girl I liked, it's been 4 years since I got rejected, I can't get over this. She's getting married, probably pregnant now. I hope I'm built tougher I keep bringing this up on random it's all in my mind I can't take it anymore, someone make this end. I hope someone robs and shot me point blank tomorrow. I'm sorry this is annoying and gay.

Where is the real vent thread?

Sometimes I wonder if I might actually be a tiny bit mentally ill, but I don’t think so, I think it’s just a reaction to the world around me.

My artistic efforts are heading I the direction I want them to, but I don’t want to develop a following of normies or be restricted to drawing stuff that others deem acceptable. If only freedom were real.

Being an artist made me even less desirable to the girl I liked, it's been 4 years since I got rejected, I can't get over this. She's getting married, probably pregnant now. I hope I'm built tougher I keep bringing this up on random it's all in my mind I can't take it anymore, someone make this end. I hope someone robs and shot me point blank tomorrow. I'm sorry this is annoying and gay.

Holy shit, why is clothing so fucking boring and how do people obsess over this shit. I'm overwhelmed by apathy when it comes time to put clothes on a figure.
Do i just take the seifuku pill and never look back?

Is it me or is the price of ramen in the US going up? Now some stores are taking them out of the packs and charging for individual packets. I used to be able to go to wal-mart and buy a whole bulk for $1.50.

>>5037261
>Being an artist made me even less desirable to the girl I liked
Normies go full retard if you are an artist and will treat you like a leper unless you're an art director or a big deal like that.
They hate what I normally make but they go "I would really like a painting for my office" obviously meaning a generic thing that would look good in a normie office. They know I can make a normal painting because I make studies, but I will not make you a generic painting if you hate my regular work and you insult me directly or indirectly. I always gift non-art gifts to these people and gift landscapes and other studies to people who at least show some interest or consideration for my life choices.
Hysterical period rage SIL threw a passive aggressive tantrum because I gifted a range of markers to the kids for xmas and she implied she doesn't want them to grow up to attached to drawing as if I were trying to influence them that way.
Sometimes I wish I were famous just so I could gift random 8000$ paintings to elderly neighbors who bring me cake and watch them seethe, but I'm not petty enough.

>>5037323
wait nvm I forgot costco exists

>>5037323
Don't tell me you buy the basic bitch standard garbage. Love yourself and at least go for things with a bit of flavor, that tiny bit of extra joy will go a long way to motivating you.

I noticed the more I draw and slowly improve, the more I'm made fun of because people always expect high quality despite me saying I'm a beginner through and through. I already know I need to work on many things and it's an incredibly deep rabbit hole non artists don't understand. They think flaws are something that can be ironed out if the artist notices it's there when it doesn't work that way. I need to understand the concept to improve it or I just flail and fail redrawing or repainting it 10 times.
Then there's wanting to express my ideas and not being able to do so because I lack the skill, that one hurts a lot. It makes me feel bad for trying

>>5037401

Yeah I always have been buying the cheap maruchan brand. I'll get this instead.

>>5037416
Good, be good to yourself. When you make it in art, you'll easily make up the extra cents you paid for a tastier meal.

>>5037416
you won't regret it, those are fantastic for what they are

>>5037416
how many packets is that?

>>5037461
on the box

>>5037461
6 bowls

I've been putting off drawing the things I should draw and drawing coom instead. I have an unfinished art-trade and a refsheet to complete, how do I stop being such a useless lazy piece of shit?

>check analytics
>profile views in the thousands
>don't tweet anything for a month

This isn't normal and I'm either under surveillance or twitter has malfunctioned. Either way, it still seems I have pet stalkers because those numbers don't add up. I know what to do now.

>>5037832
This is 2 day in the month btw...I checked all 5 of my accounts and it's under 10 profile views while 1 has over 2000 so I know something is up.

I dont like drawing girls at all. It's all i fucking draw because people only give a shit about drawings of girls but they're so fucking boring. if you are a girl I'm sorry your shit is boring if i'm not beating my dick there is absolutely nothing interesting about your body. People have all these canned speeches about "oh the female form is the pinnacle of beauty" it's not it's so fucking dumpy and stupid looking. I'm sick of it. I just wanna spend all day drawing nature and cool animals like gators but people dont fucking pay for drawings of gators.

>>5038039
draw gaia then

>>5038039
>people dont fucking pay for drawings of gators.
take the furry coom pill bruh

>>5038180

>>5038039
Ahahaha you drew those nike sneaker gators? Damn I forgot to save that lol.

>>5035618
>have fun drawing
>post work expecting praise
>post it in a small general on /vg/
>nobody calls me beg
>get praised even though I'm a deviantart-level shitter who's too bad even for /beg/
>continue to draw

>>5037208
The real vent thread was the frens we made all along.

>>5037546
Here's my personal little trick. To avoid drawing coom, I bring my laptop and tablet to a public place like a restaurant or library and work there the entire day

I really fucking hate the fact that I wasted my teenage years with art rather than literally anything else.

I don't even like drawing anymore, but I still do it anyway because i've already sunk so many hrs into this hobby already and Im struggling to learn anything else.

>>5038939
I am you but worse, you even developed a productive skill, I wasted my adolescence playing video games.

>>5038942
>art
>a productive skill
Its only productive if you are good enough to monetize it, which I am not.

After 10 yrs of self teaching myself art, im still a /beg/ tier in skill. Which is why I realize it was such a waste of my valuable free time.

I can't waste any more years of my life pursuing this dream of becoming a good artist. Theres just too many other factors in my life that make it impossible.

Wish I would have focused more on my schooling or literally anything else. I was such a dumb kid.

>>5038947
post your art anon I'm also in your shoes but I wished I had kept drawing instead of wasting my teenage years away doing nothing.

>>5038958
>post your art
Nope. What would posting my art change? Other than give crabs something to shtipost about

I can't take this feeling anymore, someone feed me a shotgun barrel.

>Still at it and practicing regularly after 2 years
>Still shit
>I'm either bad or mediocre at everything
>I don't know what to do or what course to follow at this point, I have tried the most popular choices with little success
>Nothing clicks ever
Help

>>5038966
10 years, whether you deem it as a waste or not you've spent a decade developing and polishing this skill; mind as well show the fruits of your labor. I on the other hand, am a literal beg as I started back up not too long ago. There's no way in hell you're worse than me.

>>5038939
I experienced the same thing with learning Japanese: I told myself that I was in it for the reward, but really (at least halfway through my full time of learning it) I was learning it because I had already put so much time and money into it. The sunk cost fallacy is just that: a fallacy. I won’t tell you what to do anon, and ultimately I can’t control your decision anyways, but maybe it would be best to quit. With me and Japanese, I was hindered by my ego, and didn’t want to accept that to some extent I had wasted a decent portion of my life, but eventually through soul-searching and reading I grew to the point where I could let go of my enough and accept the reality that I wasted a decent portion of my life; and in that moment I decided to quit. It was actually very euphoric moment.

You seem like you have a sober understanding of your true feelings, but maybe it would be best to make sure your thoughts aren’t being obstructed in some way. This can unfortunately be a cope though, since you say you don’t want to give up drawing because you’re caught in the sunk cost fallacy, so try not to kid yourself here. One important question to you might be: do you want to look back at your life 5+ years from now and be upset that you’ve wasted even more time doing something you don’t even like? — I hope you figure it out anon.

>>5038983
lol sucks to be you. Fortunately, art is not rocket science. All the knowledge you need to distill art into it's most basic principles has already likely been exposed to you; it's just a matter of you putting it together. Consider the function and meaning of art, and the illusion a drawing creates vs the reality of what it actually is. Godspeed anon.

>>5039006
>art is not rocket science
You are right, it isn't. The principles of science and engineering in rocketry make sense, art doesn't for the most part.

I really, really, really hate working in engineering.
It's like a constant, expensive, nightmare.
Wish I could draw more.

>>5039011
>sense
You don't know shit about it, I'm convinced some stuff is designed by aliens
>>5038983
If you like art keep at it.
Drawing is like math, studying theory gives you context but practice should take 95% of your time.
Also, as time passes certain bits magically become easier/automatic.

>>5038991
yeah i needed to read something like this.
Fuck it, im done with wasting my life like this. Starting tomorrow, i'm going to put up all my art supplies and my tablet on ebay and focus on more important shit like getting in shape and studying for my Sec+. It's time to move on and accept ill never be a good artist. Just never had the talent for it.

>>5039031
The only reason I keep doing it is because deep down I enjoy it and is truly what I want to do, however when I see the absolute lack of results of my constant efforts when reality kicks in and I feel miserable.

I do have a well paid job as well and I also wish I could dedicate more time to art, I hope one day I'm able to quit and do art instead but this is just a pipe dream at the moment, I'm the textbook definition of don't quit your day job.

So all things given I'm stuck in a misery loop.

>gitting gud is just patience
>clearly not the same patience you'd have for waiting for a package to arrive or dough to rise, so that makes it persistence
>unlike working out, it's rarely just one series/set of repetitive motions, (e.g protracting/retracting muscles) and instead of a relaxing endocannabinoid rush after finishing a set it's embarrassment over making a wonky product followed by flashbacks of being mercilessly criticized and stomped on with absolutely no support nor encouragement from anyone

>>5038714
From my experience, so long as an artist is above the initial "looks like literal child doodles" phase of art, anons in other boards really apreciate a bit of drawfagging even if its /beg/ tier. Speaking from experience as someone who drawfags on /co/ and /v/ at times.

>>5039145
>post art, not loomis studies, actual personal work
>"you are very good anon, excellent technique"
>"very impressive, have my complimentations"
>someone else posts tumblr OC with hands in pockets and rainbow colors
>This is amazing, I love this character!
>(All right, I'm missing "appeal")
>someone posts a 1:1 study of a potato
>Wow this is so inspiring, love to see your work!
whyyyyyyyyyyyy

I'm not getting any better, at all. In fact I'm getting worse, 6+ months of drawing a couple hours every day, a dozen sketchbooks, three books, and three video courses later and while my understanding of fundamentals is much better on a conscious level, my baseline hasn't changed one bit.

Maybe starting in my mid 20s was a mistake and my neuroplasticity is gone.

>>5039249
Being familiar with a subject =/= understanding it.
I think you didn't practice those subjects correctly.

My drawings are soulless

>>5038970
You'll feel much better if you stop eating weapon barrels

>>5039327
Because you're not having fun. No love for your piece. Cut down your comm slots a bit and draw something you like

>>5035618
>have fun drawing
>post shit drawings expecting crabs shitposting
>crabs shitpost the drawing
>"yup"
>goes to draw again, and the cycle continues.

Isn’t it enough to be good at something because you love it and practice it all the time? Why all this pressure to monetize? I only want to draw for me. No one tells people good at baking to open up a cupcake store or start taking wedding cake orders.

>>5039680
NGMI

>>5039249
i don't believe anything you said.

>>5039680
>Why all this pressuer to monetize?
Not to be facetious here, but partly because people want to make a living making art. Also though, I think it's partly due to the bubbles within which people live: for some people, maybe most, most of the artists they know made/make money doing art. So, naturally, it seems self-evident that they should follow suit. I'm sure there are still more reasons though.

Cant get my anti-depressants because of covid, I wanna kill myself.

>>5039716
My healthcare provider mails my meds (antivirals for hsv1)

>>5039680
Money's just a way to keep track of the score of how many people you can serve with your work. If you're treating it like a sport, then naturally you want to compete.

I wouldn't say baking and being artist are comparable jobs. Bakers can follow the same recipes and they are not asked to do anything more than replicate them.
If that's how you see art then you're not cut out for it.

>>5039718

ah, thats nice, my country doesnt do that, I feel on the edge, everything is gray and nothing brings me joy, friends are working and busy abroad and discord became my main socializing ''if you can call it that'' way, I just feel tired from it, just tired, I am going to turn one year older quite soon, just thinking of about it makes me want to die, I wasted half a year because of covid. fuck.

>>5039759
I do not know your struggle but if it helps at all, we all wasted some or all of 2020 because of covid. Even the people who are thriving on the outside aren’t all perfect right now.

>t. Lost weight, doubled salary, got back into art, picked up eating disorder and caffeine addiction

You will push through. I believe in you. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this.

i want an art gf so badly bros, not an ARTSY gf, one who actually draws and wants to get better.

>>5039795
I think there was a thread of someone trying to find an artsy bf, check it out.

>>5031099

>>5039788
>tfw had a nice internship in the beggining of the year
>was finally starting to socialize more with people irl
>few months later covid happens
>all of that goes into the trash
>back to my depressed stuck at home self
From being happy to suicidal in the span of a year, talk about a wild ride.

>>5039795
you think you do but you actually don't

>>5039680
If you don't get money, not only do you not get money, but you also have no proof that your art is good. You're basically just drawing and getting nothing out of it at all, not even a sense of self-improvement or superiority. Maybe it works for you, but that's pretty rare.

>>5035803
ayyyyy. my shadowban is gone it seems, I think it was temporary, shits weird.

I keep stopping myself from writing huge blogposts but never posting them ITT. I don't know why I just won't use a blog.

>>5031099
Yes

I knew my hunch was right, my account was being shared by agents of chaos. I've been under surveillance for quite some time.

Unfortunately for them*, I will stay in hiding for a few years.

>>5040263
take your meds

>>5040272

my healthcare provider does not ship me it

>>5038947
>Its only productive if you are good enough to monetize it, which I am not.
I mean that's every skill, if anything art has one of the lowest ceilings for earning cash even after the downfall of webcomics, if you draw like a child you can still learn how use nice colors and composition and all that shit, the guy that plays music badly can't do anything other than just keep playing and hope that he improves, he also cannot slap his shitty guitar strokes on a mug or t-shirt and sell it like you can with a drawing
>After 10 yrs of self teaching myself art, im still a /beg/ tier in skill. Which is why I realize it was such a waste of my valuable free time.
Do you mean actually trying or the "i have been drawing for X decades!!!!!!111!!!" when they mean they used to scribble during school as a kid?

>>5039680
Putting in a lot of work on something and wanting something in return is the core of it. For me it's not really about making a career out of it, but knowing others enjoy things I've really put a lot of heart into. The money is secondary to the meaning behind it of "I'm worth it." Of course, this board in particular has a weird culture around being an autistic art version of /biz/, people overanalyzing and trying to min/max profits in something that is ultimately unpredictable and uncontrollable.

It's similar to the problem of hollywood ruining movie franchises by trying to milk the story, creating unnecessary sequel after sequel, because in business you want a steady and constant growth, but that's incompatible with creativity, thus said movies often become poorly received with each new sequel. Creativity is a series of peaks and troughs, wholly unpredictable trends based on the subjective preference of the "audience." Some things that started 20 years ago only got popular in recent times, and some things that just now started instantly took off. You can try to analyze and pick apart the mechanisms of networking and make a futile attempt to math out a formula, try to understand the psychology like a manipulative mastermind, but all it'll do is serve to frustrate you as your concrete theories of success are smashed over and over.

It's not the seeking of compensation that's bad, it's obsessing over it, to the point one completely forgets why they started drawing in the first place, and the quality of their work drops as a result, usually becoming the same copy/paste of whatever style is status quo. It'll rot you from the inside-out, not just in your art, but in who you are as a person. Just draw what you want, what you love, and let your desire to improve be out of this love for it; the world already has enough liars in it.

>>5040284
Smoke some weed

This is all i could muster after telling myself I would spend all day drawing today .

>be bimbo tranny man
>feels like i'll never make it drawing naked bimbos with wonky faces
>feelsbad.exe
>discover Alfonso Azpiri
..so you're saying there's a chance...

why is it so hard to force myself to draw or paint when i get home after work. all i want to do is the usual time waste shit i do, shitposting with friends online in our group chat, watching youtube videos, etc. i usually go to bed at 12 and i'm done eating dinner and showering at around 7, leaving me 5 hours of free time after work to draw, but instead i just sit around wasting time until 9 or 10 and my time is wasted. it's even worse on weekends when i have two entire days to spend drawing and i just sit around with my thumb up my ass doing nothing productive.

am I the asshole for giving my father the cold shoulder when he insults me in his native language thinking I can't understand

>>5040537
you're both assholes lol, like father like son

>>5040541
or daughter? them? it ?

>>5040403
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5031099
I cant feel the form some people can just free draw a body like its nothing but I have to sit there and slowly draw everything perfect.

>practice drawing as hard as I can, looks wonky and shit
>immediately be hit with flashbacks of all the worst jeering and criticism i've ever faced because of it
>it's worse because it sounds so authoritative and objectively right because it came from people who know better and makes me feel all the shittier for even trying
>I come back to it the next day and it looks decent or even good
why the fuck is this?

>>5040669
maybe you feel defiant against the people who are talking shit, so you convince yourself that your stuff looks better than it does because what do those assholes know, and why should you listen to people who put you down

>>5040669
Anal sex only hurts the first few times. Get fucked constanly and you'll start to enjoy it.

>>5039871
>possible related search for thumbnail
>happy
>possible related search for full size
>ugly
Google knows why /ic/tan is screaming

>>5040975

>>5039704
Oh my sweet, summer child.

>>5040403
Join us faggot >>5036970

>>5040541
>father is being atagonistic/passive aggressive
>son ignores him
>you're BOTH wrong !!!
retard

>>5040326
marijuana worsens symptoms of schizophrenia.

>>5041161
Take some acid

>>5040975
>>5040978
the AI is getting too powerful!

>>5041164
Im going to pour acid in your prostate

Thanks to my influences want to do too many things from illustration to toy design (vehicules and mechs)to comic books.
But I know that my lack of academic training (for characters and vehicules) is a huge factor in my NGMI-sm.
Nos sure drawing vehicules and mother man made object le mot an issue but for humans it's harder now.
And I live in a country where ateliers are pretty much centralized.

>>5041243
now is the time to pick your speciality and to hone your skills. You can't get good at everything. What do you want to be you?

>too old to start career
>too invested to keep it as a hobby
>mfw

I feel like a whore because my whole success comes from drawing a single thing

I wanted something to absorbe myself while drawing/working and just spent 200$ on some headphones that sound worse than my 35$ cheap bluetooth earbuds that i had before.

Never again bros.

>>5041662
are you using an amp with it? I spent 300 on a 598se open (they now go for 400 last I checked) and at first I wasn’t impressed but then I used the amp, let it burn, and it’s amazing, especially for movies and live performance songs.

But for anime songs and watching anime in general the closed back works best. But get an amp.

>>5041672
I haven't anon, in fact i'm pretty new to audio stuff. I got the q35 ii and as you i am really not impressed.

Can you recommend any amp in specific?

>>5041709
>Bose
Oh...and are those wireless?

I’m not an audiophile so try lurking /g/s headphone thread for better options. I personally use a Fiio amp I bought years ago for around 70 bucks I think.

I've been drawing tragic depressing things for years and every now and then I get carried away into an art conversation, but when I have to show my drawings I have to pick things from ages ago or random studies of normal things. I want to sink into the ground from the embarrassment and I wish I never started talking in the first place. I'm probably seen as a waste of space loony or maybe they think I draw hentai. I feel so isolated and alienated.

I want to create the next big hit series sensation and drown in fanart of my stuff that's even better than my own art. I want endless porn of my creations, fan squabbling and shippers. I want interviews and intrigue. I want people to fall in love with something I made, but all without ever revealing my identity.
I know it will never happen, and I'm fine with that. But I still want it.

>>5041765
Anon all you need to worry about is whether it's edgy tragic or regular tragic. People have been eating up art of Jesus' death for thousands of years. As long as your work has some aesthetic grace to it, and isn't just angsty venting on a canvas, the majority of people will be fine with it. You just have to have enough confidence in yourself to look them in the eye and say "yeah, it's sad, so what?"

>>5041734
Yes, they are wireless. I wouldn't say that the sound is so bad, only when the noise cancelation is turned off they sound extremely cheap and flat.

The thing is i didn't know noise cancellation did make me dizzy until today. I guess that's just stuff that happens.

fuck my internet provider, down speed barely going above 15KiB/s the last three days, forget about upload, fucking my work hard, i hope this post comes through, before that it was the internet dropping every hour for 5-10 minutes for no reason at all and this one has been happening for the last few months already and they do nothing to fix it besides charging for "support fees" whenever i call them and they come to do absolutely fucking nothing, worst thing is i won't be able to cancel this shit for quite some time unless i pay a whole lot to those shitbags, not even the captcha is loading, oh fucking hell

If you want a few high paying commissions fast just get checked for a few debilitating mental illness (to avoid any legal troubles if that's a thing) and make a post on a certain popular website stating the illness while posting some art and how happy you were when doing it and hope the post gets attention, if not then try again in 3 months, works better if you're tradfag

Even though I love art I feel like I miss a lot of things I want to learn

I can't trust myself to "do something on the side".
Last time I tried it was sculpting, and I spent 4 weeks in a haze modelling in Blender for 12 hours a day. I COULDN'T draw.

im pretty proud of my last piece but other people don't seem to like it as much and i can't see why that is

I hope you guys join my study group. People always talk about these things but when they arrive, they remain silent.

>>5040978
This is actually a based idea, is there a thread for it?

>>5041855
I always wanted to buy a Bose so I could hear nothing around me. But anyway I’m pretty sure the sound quality is nothing what you’ll get from a good pair of cans with an amp. You win some and you lose some for what you want to get out of it.

>>5042190
As the leader you need to plan this out. Write a checklist of topic/activity and understood the methods of breaking ices

Do I really need to draw shapes before drawing details? Artists on twitch don’t have to do that shit and their art is 10x better. They literally just use the pen tool and the lasso tool to do sketches

idk where to post this but I did a fuck ton of mushrooms a month ago to sort out mental issues unrelated to art but since then drawing has been fun again. i also find it a lot easier to absorb references and feel like I’m improving.

>>5042406
Yes, you need to draw basic forms

>>5042848
I wish I could say the same on NSI-189.

>>5042406
Are you a beginner? If you're a beginner, then there's a 100% chance you can't just go straight to doing that.

how do i kick my addictions so i can draw

>>5042972
Easy peasy. Just subtrict instead. Why didn't you think of that?

But really, try to extend the best and worst scenarios of the choices you make to their most logical extremes, and then grill yourself with that knowledge until it sticks. Every waking hour. Might help to concrete it for you if you write it too.

Hey guys, I want you to take this pic and think of it in terms of art.
Keep at it!

I got back into the groove of drawing, and I intended to just draw at the bare minimum, but now I wake up with a burning hatred to draw for an extra few hours.

>>5043236
>burning hatred
Where did the fun with a pencil touch you anon?

>>5043259

right here, mommy.
*shows empty sketchbook*

>>5043269
Don't @ me ever again.

:’(

I learned my lesson. Don't over pour coffee into your machine if you intend to make 1 cup or you'll die of a heart attack.

My mind played a dirty trick on me today.

I'd fallen into a rather deep sleep under ideal conditions, and I dreamt of taking an art class at my college. In the class were some people who I knew, one of which was this fancy, smug bastard that I once knew. He was one of the only people I'd ever met who'd come close to matching me in intelligence and worldliness. He was arguably one of the closest things I'd ever had to the concept of a 'friend'.

In my dream, we walked around campus and spoke extensively, talking the same way we would have back in high school, contempt for the ignorance and obtuse behaviour of the world around us. I of course took up much of the conversation since I'd grown a lot and had plenty to say. My heart felt lighter in that dream and I felt a little less alone.

When I awoke, I realized what had happened. What was even more surprising was that I felt a slight pang of something resembling loss. I didn't appreciate that.

I hadn't thought of the fool in forever, and I should have known he'd be too fancy and pretentious to go to my college, yet I was disappointed on my awakening.

Well at any rate, maybe someday soon I'll be as famous as I wanna be and I'll be rent free in others heads rather than the inverse.

>>5043426
fag

>>5043426
>I of course took up much of the conversation since I'd grown a lot and had plenty to say. My heart felt lighter in that dream and I felt a little less alone.
Has it dawned on you yet that others have completely different goals from you, even if one or two people match you in critical thinking?

>>5043426
Tl; dr

Should I take a break from drawing if I'm feeling burnt out? Would it help give me a fresh outlook when I return?

>>5043695
>Should I take a break from drawing if I'm feeling burnt out?
Yes

>Would it help give me a fresh outlook when I return?
Maybe

>>5031207
Nobody values your "respect". Your respect cannot be traded for goods and services, and you are not important enough that your respect has value in and of itself.

>>5031430
Dude. Everything has been drawn by someone at this point.

>>5031595
I have a friend who dropped out of college and who has no family to support him. Now he works on major television cartoons and is much better paid than me.

Lots of people with support networks wash out and fail. These circumstances do not guarantee outcomes.

>>5031227
Imagine how you'll feel 6 months from now when you still don't know how to draw a fucking human

I want to use a primarily pastel blue/pink/white color palette without it being a pride thing

>>5043426
Sounds homoerotic af

>>5031099
>Art senpai that you look up too used to draw their own ideas but now all they draw is the same v-tuber every day. Literally every other post is the SAME v-tuber. not a different one. the SAME ONE. It's like they're obsessed with them.

Time to unsub from them but other than that I like drawing. It feels good.

>>5044035
Oh no, a beg unsubs. How will anon ever recover?

I’m sure you’re really happy today, huh?

>>5044152
Been drawing at or above my ability to spot errors for the past month, today was another fun day of drawing.

>>5043438
>>5043953
I’m not gay but i get how it looks
>>5043448
>Has it dawned on you yet that others have completely different goals from you, even if one or two people match you in critical thinking?
I don’t get it? I don’t think most other people are even sentient if we’re being honest, let alone able to think critically, I don’t know what you were going for but I was just venting this minor inconvenience to my happiness. In other news, my artistic growth is on the right track :)

>>5044295
Heeeh...

>>5031099
im just really depressed. i really want friends, but its as if i have a certain standard otherwise i'll just keep being lonely. i can be nice and friendly to any other friendly person but if i feel like i cant be honest to them about everything or if they dont care about me then theyre not really a friend of mine but just someone i'll keep being nice to.

also i wanna get better at drawing btw thats all

>>5044479
Me too anon me too feels like shit for 3 weeks

I haven't drawn for 6 months and I want to get back to it but I honestly have no idea where to start

I was happy half the day yesterday then I became sad for no apparent reason at all. Thankfully I still managed to do something instead of nothing.

I'm scared to buy a new tablet

>>5045299
I'm never happy anymore. I thought people were exaggerating when they said that but no, I'm literally depressed all day from morning to evening.

>>5045228
Don't, I don't need competition.

Burnout and realization of how much talent determines has been weighing me down. Yesterday I barely even worked on my current project just stared at my phone hoping I would find something that would make my life less empty

Can there truly be dignity in the life of the less talented? Am I damned for challenging pre-determined limitations?

>>5045228
Play a video game for a few hours, draw your favorite character

why do I keep saying these mean things

>>5046379
because making it is a zero sum game bullying other anons is how you absorb their power.

>>5046117
>draw your favorite character
he'll probably find none unless he enjoys obnoxious faggots who talk like upper class Americans

I've only visited this board a few times and at least 80% is whiny faggots that will never get anywhere with art because they're too busy bitching about being a failure instead of creating art, the other 20% is probably critics that don't actually know anything about art or selling art.

>>5046406
And /a/ doesn't watch anime, /v/ doesn't play video games, /sci/ are dropouts, /pol/ just wants to see happenings, etc etc

>>5043426
You sound like a pretentious pseud but I feel you, I still have dreams of my highschool friends sometimes despite not talking to them or having friends for almost a decade now.

>>5036070
Thanks!

Today I broke down in front of my mother.
> I live in my own place.
> I work a full time job I hate.
> My girlfriend and I don't have sex.
>Both of us are becoming depressed and its causing us to argue over stupid stuff.

>I have about a 4 hour window between getting home from work and going to bed.
> It's usually "eat dinner, drink a beer, do some general cleaning or maintenance, and go to bed."
> I struggle with getting around to drawing in this window.
> I'm so exhausted by work and customer service that all I want to do when I get home is mindlessley play videogames and get drunk.
> My job barely pays enough for me to cover the bills and my student loan debts.
> I hate being at work, but I have to spend the majority of my waking life doing it.

My mom told me that I need to recognize that my art and comics will never net me an income and I need to use the skill to pursue graduate school, possibly in graphic design.

>It's all kinda funny because when she told me that, my first thought was that there's no way I could get a graphic design gig in this economy.
> Which then only reinforced my understanding that I will most likely never garnish a following or make any significant income from what I like to do.

> I've been trying. I have a website, ecommerce shop with shirts and tote bags I printed on, which was an absolute waste of money, and shortsighted as I did it before I even went live with the website.
> I have NO following. Who is going to buy my shit?
>I've released seven comics (+-20 pages each) over the last year


I know I'm cope or whatever but I think I'm just depressed. Maybe its winter.
I want to stop drinking. I don't even know why I'm posting this in this thread.
>I don't think I'm going to give up though. My friends like my art and I don't think they're lying to me.
>I have seen improvement over the year. A huge leap.

>Have lots of ideas
>Sit down to draw and forget all of them
>Get up to stretch/eat/sleep/whatever
>Repeat

What the FUCK.

>>5047558
Write 'em down numbnuts.

>>5047591
Oh, that's actually really smart. I have a bunch of notebooks I haven't even used once too. I...am ashamed that I never thought of this before. Thank you for saving my life.

I start a work from home job today, hopefully I survive it and it doesn't turn out to be a load of BS. I never, for as long as I live, ever want to work in a place with people again. I was unfortunately meant to be alone.

>>5031099
You will because you love it.

twitter needs to cool it with the suspensions

>>5047847
Just be a good goyim and you'll be fine

>>5047847
just post your art nobody cares what you have to say

>>5048812
It's not me, it's people I follow who vanish.

....I


I LOVE YOU !! !! !!!!!!!

VERY MUCHHHHHHHHHHHH

is this thread still alive? ? huh ??

huh....huh???? Oh okay Uhm, okay

*inhales*

AAAAAAAAI LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE

drawing