/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4992103
How would one draw two anime girls kissing in profile when their noses keep getting in the way without having to tilt the head?

>>4992116
Noses will squish. Or one of them is upside down

I've only been drawing the top half of the character or just portraits. How do I come up with interesting poses for each character instead of this?

>>4992297
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
even if you don't do the figure drawing sessions, this might be a source of inspiration

>>4992297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1nxf5KQ2Js

Any demonstration on fucking hair?
Short hair, long hair, frizzle, cuts, etc.

How the fuck people get this shit? I just want to stop drawing spikey/sonic fucking hair

>>4992970
Look at real hair and simplify it, break it into forms and construct it as you would a figure. Just because it lacks physical mass doesn’t mean it lacks volume generally and should therefore be constructed out of primitives like anything else. You could even apply the same logic to smoke or clouds. Look at real hair

anybody knows how to bind that alt + right click brush resize shortcut from photoshop to one of the buttons in the xp-pen pencil? it either allows me to bind a click or a combination of keys
i know it's lazy as fuck but my dumbass brain keeps pressing ctrl instead and i always end up moving the layer

Am I supposed to "feel the form" when doing gesture or just draw movement lines in a 3D space and add the form later? Or should I just not think in 3D at all and exaggerate lines from observation?

>>4993185
you should focus on fundies, feeling the form comes later after you get fundies at a natural way of drawing

>>4993185
Feeling the form is the same as riding a bicycle without thinking of how you do it without messing up, it comes with practice

>>4993205
>>4993207
I can kinda feel the form when drawing from imagination (construction) or copying, I just don't know what to do with gesture. Some materials look like cartoony stick figures while others look like full figure sketches.

I'm wondering if the ones that look like full figures are because the artists are so used to it that they don't even bother drawing the stick figure before adding the form.

how does one continue to "finish" a piece knowing its not good?

>>4993253
Don't keep working on it as is. Back-pedal and fix your mistakes. You might have to re-draw the whole thing but you'll learn a lot more that way

>>4992103
what kind of brushes should i use if i want to start inking comics?
I'm getting round point brushes with synthetic hairs. Is that ok?

How do I overcome the fear of posting art that's not good enough by my standards? The shit I create now is better than anything I did last year yet I post much less often than I used to

>>4993185
>>4993223
Nevermind, I understand it better after watching Vilppu.

>>4993441
Starting inking off with brushes?
What a brave boy.

Synthethic brushes are fine with the premium ones being taklon.

Will paypal ever freeze an account if someone told me off for drawing nsfw although I only sell sfw while my nsfw drawing is just a hobby?

got a very legal™ version of photoshop but i accidentally deleted a brush folder. is it safe for me to click the "get more brush" option in order to get that brush folder back?

>>4993667
You are comparing your present self to someone that doesn't exist yet. That always ends in disappointment.

>>4993889
You can freely use all the photoshop online features, at least on the m0nkrus version. Like neural filters, cloud storage etc. I think the uncia version may have issues, though.

>>4993924
alright thanks bb

what's the best way to approach knowing my art sucks but doing a comic anyway?
i'm perfectly comfortable with admitting it sucks, but i can't find a way of saying "yeah, it sucks, that's just something we're stuck with" that doesn't either sound too complacent or too irony poisoned

>>4993964
draw "relatable" comics

>>4993964
To overcome the complacency problem, maybe you can temper the admission that it sucks with a reassurance that you will try to improve, and that despite the lackluster art you'll still try your best to make a worthwhile comic.

how does one approach making a piece that doesn't feel like a waste of time working on?

>>4994089
this question is actually somehow too stupid for the stupid questions thread

make something you want to make. get better so you can express your ideas more faithfully. figure out why you feel like you're wasting your time in the first place and then address that

>>4994091
i wanted to draw my characters, test how i've improved, try out a new method of coloring them in a new program, try to improve my line work
but its not really anything new from what i've drawn. it might look better than previous drawing, but not by much and its still essentially the same

i guess i've learned some things but overall it feels like its not enough

>>4994114
there's just so much i want to do it feels like anything small or "comforting" is just a waste of time, its a crime against my ambition

>>4994114
The nature of improvement is glacial and iterative, there are very few big victories to be had (moments like ahhh, I finally understand perspective, ahh I'm finally starting to understand what it means to feel the form, etc.) aside from these, your daily improvement will be small. To not acknowledge these small victories is silly, but to expect paradigm shifts with every piece is delusion. I think you need to be more realistic with yourself and accept that it will be slow. Be happy with the small improvements, because this is how enormous improvements are made over time, and why mileage and experience and muh 10,000 hours are important. Keep going and have faith. The biggest crime against your ambition is to break down and stop completely because progress seems slow.

>>4994131
And to add to this, even the big victories are just houses built out of bit part victories. More often it's like the things you have been studying are finally clicking into place, rather than some revelation out of the blue. Consistent small victories are king in long term growth

>>4994131
i think I need to be more ambitious but when i am i just realize there's stuff i don't know how to draw and i need study that
like i don't know how to draw this muscle right
then i see other people's art and realize that the drawing ends up not looking "dynamic" enough and I just want to throw it out
then i know i need to learn to draw this pose in a more dynamic way

like if I really want to improve I should be more ambitious but know how to be so, and not waste my time on things that were to lite

>>4994139
But what's confusing about that? Being ambitious naturally means acknowledging you have a long way to go. The solution is to get on with it and reward yourself for making progress, not to spin your wheels and get angry about potentials and hypotheticals.

If your task is too light it should be obvious. If you're not struggling, if you're not finding new questions to ask or new problems to resolve, your task is too light. But there's no point in trying to take on the world all at once. How do you eat an elephant? Measured consistent progress

Partly it sounds like you have some very anime ideas about the importance of ambition, but ambition is nice and easy to talk about. What's important is how you're gonna deal with the slow and endless path to your goal

>>4992103
I suck at construction, I have been practicing anatomy and got good at it but it didn't translate at all to construction. I nottice I'm good at it but take too long so I started practicing sketching but my sketch's suck and they keep getting worse so I went back to drawing slowly and detailed but it's not helping me accomplish what I want
I asked a professional painter but he foods me he doesn't do construction and his best advice was to stare at something for a while then draw it using my imagination. It was fun, I suck at it but I don't think it's helping much either
The only thing that actually helped is to draw an invite sketch of what I have in mind then store it for a day without looking at it and then redraw it and do the same one or two times and at the end it comes out looking kind of what I wanted but his is a horrible process as it takes days and it doesn't work if I wait less time
I'm not sure what I wanted to ask, I'm too stupid to even know my question, I guess is what I currently do going to get better? Am I going to need less time between redrawing? Is it going to work? Should I keep a bunch of sketches in a drawing in order to keep busy and not loose time? That would suck too because I get the urge to draw something and I don't want to just forget about it because I already have a backlog of ugly sketches to work on

This has probably already been asked, but does anyone have any tips or resources on how to draw short/male hair?
I can draw long/feminine hair well enough, but whenever I draw short/masculine hair, it always comes out weird looking.

>>4994190
Chances are you don't understand the hairline or the structure of hair.

>>4992103
why did you faggots let the /COOMER/ general die?

why can't i "just draw" anymore?

Is there a structured approach to learn drawing, I get overwhelmed most of the time, by the sheer amount of resources. I'd like a curriculum I can follow.

>>4994616
yes, people say just draw, but practically everything has a structured approach to how its drawn, sometimes its different for each, but there's basically a way to draw everything

but basically start with big shapes for everything.

>>4994842
but basically do this, but basically do that, shut up! You're getting me more overwhelmed with these answers, it's stupid questions thread not stupid answers, answer me properly!

>>4994851
figure drawing - GCAT
Gesture, Constructure, Anatomy, Tone

>>4994856
This is too much! I'm so overwhelmed by this information! It doesn't even have color yet! AAGGHH!! I quit!

>>4994616
Assuming that you have read the sticky and know what the fundamentals are, unironically create your own curriculum and have several resources for each topic.

>how to hold a pencil
>observational drawing
>line discipline
>basic perspective
>human proportions
>feeling forms
>gesture
>constructive anatomy
etc.

how to I make pop-ups in photoshop appear on my tablet instead of my main monitor?

>>4992970
>Any demonstration on fucking hair?
yeah, look up rebirth

>>4994616
How about eat this load of ass?
>perspective
>anatomy
>rendering
>color
>value
>gesture
>composition
And many more! Each of them it’s a rabbit hole of it self and will take hundreds of hours of studying and thousands of hours of drawing/practice before mastery, isn’t art fun?

>>4995270
I could probably list more autistic shit like color temperature and proportions or even shape design!

>>4995043
>>4995270
>>4995271
AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH, this is too overwhelming! AAAGGHHH too much AAAAAGGGHH!! why can't someone answer briefly??!!

>>4995299
Vilppu Drawing Manual. Follow it like a course and cycle through it multiple times, copying all the drawings and doing drawings on your own. It gives you one fundamental at a time.

Does drawing figures can make me better at portraits?
I'm ok with faces but when it comes to the full figure I suck,but I wanna make my own characters so I need to get comfortable with it.

>>4995321
technically you can do more than just portraits if you learn to do the full figure anon

>us artist
>everyone who follows me on instagram is from anywhere but the US

I appreciate the follows, but foreigners are pretty useless when it comes to eventually selling prints and other merch down the road due to high shipping fees. How can I gain more Americans specifically?

what's your process for doing a finished painting in colour? I find it hard to think in values and colours simultaneously, so I used to draw first in b&w and then in colour, but lately I stopped doing this because I didn't want the colours to look so muddy. How do you do it anon?

>>4995299
just draw

>>4995370
literally just draw whats trending like holoshit

>>4993253
If you know it's not good why are you finishing it? Learn to let it go and bin it. Trying to finish it is just wasting time polishing a turd.

>>4995796
idk i just hate having nothing but sketches, and its hard for me to want to finish anything sometimes
i suppose its good i'm learning to draw before trying to render, but sometimes i get jealous of people who have "finished work" no matter their level.

maybe they wasted their time, but they have something to show

>want to draw a webcomic
>can't draw my ideas properly
>stopped to get better at art
>still can't draw my webcomic ideas
How are you supposed to get better at this?
How can people just draw whatever idea that comes in their mind without hesitating that it won't look good?

Whats a crab and what is crab-chan?

>>4992103
I need to make some 2d pictures look animated and 3d-ish. What good software is out there for that? I know there's adobe after effects for that but surely there must be something else out there

can depression actually stop you from becoming an artist?
i though all artists were depressed

>>4995768
I work straight with color after the sketch stage.
Sketch > local color on a layer below the sketch > rough rendering on a layer between the other two > final rendering and touch-ups on a layer above everything else
If I'm doing something difficult or fragile, I'll make a new layer. If I need to liquify, I'll flatten the layers, liquify, then go back to painting on a new layer on top of that.
If I just need to move or resize something I'll usually just copy merged, paste, and touch-up any remnants of the image before the transformation.
I only name layers and use masks if I want to do something complicated and/or precise.
If you want to do commissions or illustration, you'll need to be more organized than that, but for fine art, I like to keep up the flow as much as possible.

>>4996869
Depression makes it very difficult to begin things, due to a lack of motivation. Depressed people are often reclusive, which means they have more time to dedicate to art, and self-critical, which makes it easier to see your own flaws and improve them, but aside from that it is only a hindrance

>>4996877
i feel like i shouldn't even bother finishing things

what medium is easiest on the wrist to get good?

>>4996983
Charcoal on large news print on an easel.

>>4996983
Charcoal on large news print on an easel using an overhand grip.

>>4996983
charcoal for value and form studies, any trad painting for color, digital if tablet is at least medium size and you don't overuse wrist

>>4997002
i try to use tablet more because i want to make clean things but it hurts my wrist the most
maybe its to small though. whats a medium tab supposed to be

Why do painters are sometimes bad at drawing?
Isn't painting harder to do?

>>4997010
Pressing hard on your stylus stresses the wrist more than flicking it around does. If you're not constantly dropping your pen on accident you're not holding it lightly enough.

>>4997050
Ski jumping might be harder than painting but that doesn't mean people who can paint can also ski jump.

How do you get this "grainy" kinda feel to illustrations? Is it just a texture on some weird blend mode and somewhat low opacity?

>>4997198
noise filter

is the stretching paper and his setup absolutely necessary?

>>4997050
Painting is more akin to sculpting, you just add and add and cutaway and add. Drawing is a lot more challenging in a “put it down right first time” kind of way. But painting poses a whole different bunch of challenges that ultimately make it the more complicated of the two in my opinion

when trying to do the sphere to start heads, at least using the loomis method, how important is it for the sphere to be perfectly even? I can't consistently pound out "perfect" circles but I can do them somewhat alright. They aren't super lopsided but when i put the vertical and horizontal lines, one corner ends up being shorter than the others usually

>>4996873
thanks for the reply! this is very helpuful

>>4997398
if you read the book you should know you dont need a perfect sphere, but i guess you're too idiot to figure out how to open a pdf file

>>4996481
from what ive learned from my time doing art is that it just takes a lot of fkin practice, unironically. as an example, while i'm still ass at drawing hands and feet, i've become able to draw the torso, abdomen, legs and arms, neck and head for the most part without any kind of reference, it just kind of naturally makes sense hwo these things fit together in my drawings. my guess is that after doing these over and over and over my brain, without me even understanding it completely, is able to interpret whether something looks off just from pattern recognition. hope that helps in some way, i dont know the real answer after alll

>>4997410
When i get to the less cartoonish heads, the spheres are perfect. When I look at video tutorials, the spheres are perfect.

are there any sites out there that you can use to learn gesture? so like you set it at 30 seconds or 1min or whatever and it changes after the set time?

>>4997414
post them

Is there a way to make the transform tool faster in CSP?

>>4997421
line of faction and quick poses are the two most used sites.

>>4997597
Short answer is no, sometimes ensuring more cache improves performance
File>Preference>Performance
but usually only in case if you don't have enough/are using too much ram.

Just curious, what resolution are you drawing at and what are your specs?

>>4997929
4000x4000

>>4997997
I'm setupmogging you

>>4992103
>help
>help
>help
>me
>me
>me
How should I approach studying?
I would like some general pointers as well, things you've found out that worked for you and did not work for you.

What is the fastest way to gain skill? I feel like I'm improving at an exponential rate, however the improvement rate is still below the "target" improvement rate I want (need) to reach.

I have a lot of trouble finishing works, can I get some help/experience with this from fellow anons?

How do I need to behave on social media as to not upset anyone? I seem to upset people quite fast and easily. I don't want to create angry mobs, so what are the things I should *not* say or do on social media?

>>4997997
Looks fair.
My own convertible has 8 gigs of ram with little issue (though its an i7) but users have reported upgrading from 8 gigs of ram solved their issue.

Lets wait to see what >>4997997 finds out and if he finds increasing the ram helps, I think your model can be upgraded to a max of 16gb.

how do i make a face look female? i'd post my work but i've never saved anything out of disapointment

what can I do to get better at drawing if my ability to self reflect is extremely hampered or is it even really possible?

>>4998036
compare female skills to male skulls

>>4998015
look at shadows instead of lines, study landmarks of a subject, start with big shapes

i already think you're nothing but a user so figure out the rest yourself

>>4998015
Read the sticky.

if I cut off my hand and get a hand transplant of chad artists hand will I get their muscle memory and therefor be a chad artist?

>>4992103
should i break up with my girlfriend if i want to grind out for hours without distraction? she's too distracting.

does anyone know the name of that french femboy statue?

>>4998305
is it this?

>>4998305
maybe this?

>>4998264
No, but she should break up with you for being such a faggot.

Any tips on drawing with shoulder on a small tablet? I can only do small strokes.

>>4998641

Get beeeg tablet. Not smol tablet.

>>4998038

Start taking notes in a physical notebook/sketchbook. Highlight major terms, add definitions next to them. Research and youtube concepts you dont understand.
Write down solutions you find in your notebook/sketchbook.

>>4998264
Nah bro, use her as figure drawing

What fundies author teaches this kind of construction?

>>4998036

Dial back the length and prominence of the superciliar arch. A the angle of a womans jaw should be obtuse- a man's jaw (specifically the classic "Square" jaw) approaches 90 degrees, or is at the very least, more acute.
The length of the glabella should be longer- this widens the space of the eye sockets and makes a women's eyes bigger and rounder. Younger women and children typically have a larger frontal eminence on the forehead.
Avoid overstated the masseter or emphasizing the void between the zygomatic arch or the mandible, it makes women look gaunt and sickly- female faces have more fat in them, even into advanced age.

>>4998693
did you ever hear the tragedy of what's actually inside loomis' books? i thought not. it's not a story the crabs would tell you... it's an /ic/ legend:
>be loomis
>dark lord of art
>so powerful
>so wise
>could use hard round brush to enrage the /ic/ crabs and create sneed
>had such a knowledge of anatomy that he could even draw the parts we care about (benis and cunny) correctly
actually reading loomis is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

>>4998704
But that's definetly not loomis.

>>4998707
its loomis with a few added shapes

>>4998684
Does a bigger tablet make that much of a difference?

Is there à difference of comfort between an intuos and a cintiq beside the "hand eye-coordination" thing?

>>4999235
yes, screnless has better ergonomics

>>4999226
For people who are experienced it isn't much of a difference but for people who are not, it just exacerbates their existing issues.

There are a lot of caveats to using a small tablet, both for health reasons was well technique that smaller tablets should be avoided unless one has already developed good habits. When I'm lazy I actually prefer using a small tablet.

>>4999235
Intuos is more ergonomic and thus comfortable. Other comfort details is the display heat and, noise from the fans.

What are some legit online art contests to get some visibility? (if you want to be a concept artist, or character designer, costume designer, etc...)

>>4999245
Is there a big difference from Wacom Intuos CTL4100 and Wacom One DTC133W0A? There's the obvious of the latter being a screen tablet, but would that make a big difference in drawing speed or anything?

>>4999256
From an employers perspective Illustration annuals are still popular. International ones such as spectrum or national ones such as the Society of Illustrators.

What is getting traction though is browsing the winners of Artstations challengers, its shows people who can follow a brief in a timely fashion.

>>4999298
Sketching/linework tends to be faster on a display. For painting I would lean towards the intuos but overall not a big difference in speed.

However I do not recommend the Wacom One line.

>>4998125
>already think you're nothing but a user
user of what? drugs?

>>4992116
this is the basic kissing scheme, you can't kiss someone without tilting the head, drawing it you can just not indicate the head tilting, like i did lower right

>>4992302
but beware of this as well, study street photography, life situations, most of the models in these timed videos have stylized and dance poses which will imprint into your drawing memory. Not saying it's totally bad, just counter them with real life observation and photos.

>>4992970
Try this. First draw the head as a whole volume. Only then draw hair on top but as a volume. While i was starting art school we were taught like that. Always add hair last, as one big mass. Try to see the structure, not the surface.

>>4999312
thanks a lot man ily

what book is this from?

Any luck finding IRL live figure drawing sessions during a pandemic?

>>4998015
What are you doing to upset people?

>>5000000

>>4992103
I want to get to know more paintings of historical significance, how can I go about it? is there like a book or a site where I can start? I know so little about that I don't even know how to start.

>>4992297
creative illustration from loomis has a chapter on this.

>>4995260
kek

>>4993107
maybe AutoHotKey can help you, but I not sure, I don't draw digital

>>5000292

Unironically get you one of those "100 famous paintings" books, or "100 of the world's greatest artists" and browse through them until you see stuff you like. Then look online for more books about that specific artist/movement.

if i draw a comic trad in a3, scan the pages and import it into a project in CSP, and assume I want to print it off one day in what I assume would be at least a4. should my project file be set to a3 or a4 proportions?

What do people mean --exactly-- when they mention "learning your values?"

>>5001057
how to control it in your painting

what type of commissions have you guys had the best luck with? my little bro has cancer and i just want to raise some money with a side hustle. i think i could imitate just about any style except insanely good old masters obviously. i know that most people here would suggest porn which i guess i’d be willing to do if i could really make some money with it. i’ve never done commissions before so i’m not sure if it will be worth the trouble since i’ve got a busy schedule ahead of me on top of my day job. if i am going to do this, i'd just like some advice about whether there’s a specific fandom or style or subject matter that tends to pay well. if there’s a certain website or platform that commissioners use often with you guys i’d like to know more about that too. i’d like to avoid furry if possible but i imagine you guys will say that’s the real cash cow. naturally, if it’s apparent i’ll need to do depraved shit to make money i’d like to remain anonymous. if there’s a good path forward with sfw commissions i may not. anyway, thank you in advance and stay safe d/ic/ks.

How do people paint so fast?

>>5000213
Being autistic and getting dragged into politics too easily and self loathing.
But I think that I'm asking a redundant question; other than being autistic part.
But I can refrain from politics and self loathing on Twitter I guess.
It feels a bit like the normies are out there to ruin my life for some reason; like they just want me to suffer.

am I insane or where the hell is the sketchbook thread? are those not a thing anymore?
I remember there being threads where people would post their quick sketches and doodles, they were always great

>>4999335
of people
it makes me sick to help people to an extent
i didn't get much help, i know its the right thing to do to help people, but i can't stand people who won't figure shit out themsevles

>>5001295
big shapes
and it ends up looking good because they end up putting the focus on one area of interest

>>4993185
There is no "form" in gestural drawing. You're making simple lines to indication movement and expression.

Form is for more finished work, when you're working with actual forms. "Feeling the form" is yet another thing over-emphasized and poorly understood here, it simply means capturing an accurate feeling of the form, where it all flows correctly and exists in it's space as a unified form, not parts slapped together with poor transitions and borders.

>>4993253
That only comes with experience. Knowing when a piece is working or not is up to you, and most students struggle with this in the beginning.

Best advice - if you start feeling doubts, set it aside, start something else. Revisit the piece later, and decide if it's worth continuing.

This is one way a teacher helps, either helping you develop something so you don't fail, or giving you a nudge that it's failing.

This forum can help, by posting work and asking for advice.

The skill here is having a finished endpoint in your mind, and working towards that. That's also something you build towards, and why beginning courses start with simple objects, and you learn how to build towards a finished piece over time. Most beginners also work too far ahead their skills a lot of the time.

If you are feeling it's not good, then put it to the side. Your instincts are probably correct. A lot of art becomes instinctual with experience, yoy just don't have enough, so you question it, or try to plow past it. Start listening to your instincts, it's a skill/muscle that has to be trained along with everything else.

How many times should you redraw a line when using a reference?

>>4994190
Hair is hair. Doesn't matter if it's a dog, or man, or woman. Hair in masses has a shape, texture, and volume, and often a "grain' in terms of how the hair grows and falls.

You have an entire world of male hair to study. Actually study it - figure out male hair lines, texture, and the forms.

>>4994499
Fear, anxiety, procrastination. Little kids draw for hours because they have none.

It's all in your head.

Pick up a copy of Stephen Pressfield's "The War of Art", it's an easy read and covers this kind of thing.

>>4997198
Probably.

I usually put a 2-3% layer of noise over my final layers, in Overlay mode, to unify paintings. It breaks up the hard edges and unifies it all. I learned this doing photo editing, we'd modify old photos and digital shots, and we'd add film grain or sensor noise back in, because our edits were too 'clean".

>>5000292
The best overview book on art is Gombrich's "The Story Of Art". Pretty sure there's a link in the book thread. It's the most standard art history book used in college.

yo wtf why ic has porn ads now?

>>5002041
To filter out technologically inept Discord trannies.

>>5002005
As many times as it takes to get it right

>>4994499
read atomic habits

>>4994616
if you want structure; draw a box is a good start

>>4995370
>foreigners are pretty useless when it comes to eventually selling prints and other merch
not really, people who buy those shit are people with spare money to begin with. but you could also sell digital goods. or you can just become a "influencer", also the more follows you have the more follows you gain.

>>4996570
you

>>4996869
also I read that depression can make it harder to learn things. something about if you don't feel good doing it your brain will not remember how to do it.

>>4997398
if you really need a perfect circle

People always tell me to practice figure drawing but where do I get the figure drawing references?

>>5003280
vimeo search: croquis cafe
line-of-action dot com
quickposes dot com
/artbook/ thread OP has tons of reference books

or just images.google to find action poses that aren't models posing

>>5000712
what really matters is the resolution that you scan it in.

>>5003303
People tell me to quit, that im talentless
ive been drawing for 4 months now and is it true?
>>5003303

>>5003343
no they're crabs
keep drawing
study, draw what you want to draw, then go back to studying so you can fix your mistakes next time you'll draw what you want to draw
you won't feel any meaningful gains until a year later, when you look back at your old drawings
do it for you, because you love the process of drawing. not to please some fucking random anons

>>5003349
I dont care about them but it gets to me, i dont feel the spark of talent on my studies, i cant draw from imagination since im way too scared of failure to be able to do it on the daily
I grind my fundies daily, rarely miss them but theres no improvement and others on /beg/ are already better, im jealous, im angered

The sheer amount of resources and conflicting information here on what materials to use to study is stressing me out and causing me to spend all my time looking up resources and browsing around here instead of ever actually drawing.

I am mostly just interested in drawing anime girls but I want to get a decent grasp on the fundamentals. I just want to have a plan so I stop wasting me few hours of free time doing this. Am I missing out on anything if I use a combination of the Loomis textbooks and drawabox?

How do people usually plan comic pages?

>>5003352
>the spark of talent

good site for bones and skeleton reference?

>>5003888
Check out Scott McClouds Understanding comics

what is actually form and how do i feel it

>>5004157
3D shapes, and by developing your sense of form. The objective is to eventually be able to completely imagine a 3D object from any angle.

>>5003147
Depression does fuck with your memory, yes.
Memories are formed by having an emotional reaction to an event or piece of information, and people with depression have a harder time having emotional reactions to things.

>>5003359
anon, do anything, even if it is not the perfect path, which don't exist, it is better than doing nothing.

>>5004157
This is an old exercise we did in school. Relax and look at the room you are in. Now imagine that all the material things in your room don't have mass and the empty space in your room is actually solid. What shape is it? Ponder this, draw it and you are on your way to "feeling" form.

to what degree should my drawing board be? drawing on a flat surface is making my back hurt

What?

>>5004862
better stop drawing gramps

>>4999518
oh my fucking god im gonna oohh ahhh waaa cooo0000mm

>>4994089
Coomposition

>>5004862
perpendicular to your line of sight.

>>5004157

>>4995271
Imagine calling proportions autidtic shit, just wow

how do you find references for fantasy backgrounds, like for example an old egyptian town

>>5001987
Feeling the form= feeling it depth, volume

>>5004993
Photobash

how do you learn how to be creative again? i've been grinding for so long I don't think i know how to

can i get good at color/light/rendering without grinding still lifes (lives?)

they're so boring to me and I prefer to paint from a picture but i'll grind it if it helps a lot

>>5005257
You need a way to check your answers.
Otherwise you could be making mistakes, and just repeating those mistakes, and reinforcing those mistakes into a habit.

Don't make it into a grind but just do an hour still life once a week. Then go paint from a photograph of a beautiful scantily clad woman, then go do one from imagination, rinse and repeat.

Can anyone share the ref folder of this beautiful man?

Does anyone have that very long,huge picture that has art "skill levels"?or something like that

Anyone have a link to the Kyle T Webster brushes?
I don't have a Photoshop license as I use CSP, but I'd still like some of his oil paint brushes since I've heard that they are good, and the default CSP oil paint brush is basically just a textureless hard round.
I tried googling but didn't find any reliable links.

What did you put in your invoice for nsfw payments?

What's a better way to get mileage/practicing?
do many drawings in an hour letting things just click with each one or get as much information as I can from a couple of drawings in the same hour?

Is there a good...or any type of comic plug in for Photoshop? (Preferably not one on Adobe's website that makes you sign in)
Any type of comic effect materials I can use digitally? I'm looking for speedlines and how to do them digitally, its kind of oddly hard?

>>5006040
focus on specific areas, don't completely undermine other parts when you're drawing a body, but mark areas of interest and study
if you're drawing abs don't make it a render study, draw abs

That 1.5 tb vid course mega died. Any alternatives?

>>5006175
>if you're drawing abs don't make it a render study, draw abs
Thanks, this is good to have in mind, but my previous question still aplies to that.
Sometimes I feel like i'm taking too long for a single body part drawing, making me unsure if i'm getting enough mileage, so... do a lot of quick drawings and fix my mistakes one after another, or just relax and be careful?

which master should i study for brushwork?

>>5005511
This is the one right?

>>5006608
there are specific landmarks on the body that make it easy to "connect the dots" once you find them out
muscles have origins and inserctions

What painting program is good on linux besides krita.

>>5001817
Are you alright?

will grinding 40 quickposes a day help

>>5007613
did you feel the pose tho and how the lines indicate the flow of the figure or even weight?
no?
then it won't until you establish that.

>>5007615
I do draw the line of action but I don't know what you mean by feeling the weight

>>5007619
its just another way of saying "feel the form"

>>4998693
Can I get a real answer for this or should I make a dedicated thread in order to get non shitpost answers?

>>5007623
well yeah I do try to simplify the bodies down to 3d

>>5007629
then you're good to go. but do attention to the "weight" thing

How does her pose look straight but not stiff?

>>5007653
the babies are more eye catching than the mother

>>5007653
straight!=stiff

I want to learn to make smooth transitions between values like you see here but with using a pencil, any tips on how to do that?

>>5008547
start light to dark

to make it as a freelance artist , Should i sellout/pander or draw what i like and hope for the best?

How can I make poses more visually interesting?

Whats a good tool to rip new masters academy videos?

>>5007412
fuck no, nothing can fix me
i suffer from a bad life. all i can do is try to be better, but i only have myself

>been staring at my construction for a while
>have no idea what to do next
Do I make measuring marks? Just go ahead and add detail?

what the fuck is construction? breaking down shit in to basic shapes?

>>5009323
>>5009333
how old are you

>>5009336
old enough

>>5009338
yeah shut the fuck, how old are you

>>5009341
no

>>5009333
this is the dumb question thread retard, answer it

is it normal for a splint to make your hand feel almost worse at first?

How do you practice anatomy?

>>5009619
actually, figure drawing. First you draw the muscle diagrams and stuff, but after that its mainly figure drawing to beat it into your brain. Also, draw figures from imagination. that's equally important

>>5009459
idk which splint you're referring to, but I wear a carpal tunnel brace every night. Every morning, my wrist will feel incredibly sore. Also, please don't buy trigger finger splints from the internet. I bought one and wore it for 2 weeks straight, and I ended up developing "swan neck deformity" from keeping my finger too straight for too long.

>>5009625
>night. Every morning, my wrist will feel incredibly sore
but has it made your wrisit feel better in the long run?

My ultimate plan B in life, admitting that I'll somehow get good enough to draw porn and live off massive amounts of patreon bucks creating coomer games or comics
How good of a plan is it? My life isn't going so well at the moment and the easy going wealthy future seems compromised
Not that I'm working my ass off, but still, how much of silly dream is it? Be brutally honest

>>4992103
Is there a 'ctrl + paint' for Krita or CSP?

>>4992970
https://youtu.be/88khFjZwkl0

Watched this today and found it pretty neat

When I posted my art here i noticed the image quality is blurry how do I fix the problem I'm using ibispaint in my really old ipad.

>>4992103
Can someone please link me the video resource thread if there is one?

What does a "finished piece" exactly mean? A fully rendered and detailed drawing or just whatever you can do applying all your current knowledge?

>>5010452
catalog

>>5010553
Finished just means you accomplished whatever you set out to do.
If you set out a goal to do a sketch with the intent to learn something from it, then it's finished even if it's just a sketch. If you set out to do a fully rendered painting complete with background and everything, then it's only finished when you hit that goal.

If you don't have a goal when you start a drawing then you either need to decide when something is finished yourself or just keep working on it forever until you can't bother with it any longer.

Hey, I'm /beg/ and just found a physical copy of pic related in a box while moving. Is it a good place to start? Seems like it has more break down than loomis for retards like me.

>>5010606
thanks, that clears things up for me.

>>5010705
I have this book, it's good but you should use a micron pen because his drawings are more for ink than pencil

>>5010742
Thanks for the... tip! Haha

is it me or is bridgman kinda fucked up when it comes to head perspective his shit seems just seems wrong

>>5011184
there will always be someone with a fucked up head that matches someone's drawing

>>5009640
not sure lol. The biggest difference was drawing with my shoulder (wear an artist glove so your hand can glide over the screen properly) and lowering my pen pressure sensitivity. Draw a ton of bicycles- you have to make very precise and long lines / big ellipses to do them well.

How can some pro artists get away with /beg/-tier drawings and not be drowned by endless emails and complaints?

>>5011649
some pro i followed once got a comment like that and he just said it was stylistic choices and not a lack of skill/fundies

>>5003280
When covid ends, your local uni: back in 2019, 10-15 bucks bought 3 hours of live nude model time.

>>4992103
When drawing a line or anything else, do you look at the end of the pen or ahead where you want to end the mark?

>>5011874
I look through to the world on the other side of the paper.

has anyone here ever gotten in trouble from ripping NMA stuff? i don't wanna save all this resources then the cops come and fuck me up.

I watched welcome to the NHK and I don’t ever want to be a neet

there's no way to preview/cycle through layer modes in clip studio paint right?

Should I concern myself with drawing from imagination? I just copy references, I don't have the skills to create pictures out of thin air, is this something that eventually happen?

>>5012237
scroll whell with cursor pointed at the dropdown

No nut month has not worked out for me very well so far.
Instead of watching porn for 20 minutes I end up reading Loli Ryona stuff for the plot for 6 hours straight.
How can I focus on drawing instead of wasting my time on degenerate trash this month?

>>5012380

how do i learn to draw musclegut futas?

Does anyone know the source of https://www.scribd.com/document/416082480/SPB-Type-2-pdf
It looks like a super pose book (or スーパー・ポーズブック if you prefer) but could you tell me which one specifically?

I'm scared to post a comic and draw stuff outside of my comfort zone

>>5013045
But that's the only way you can improve

idk how to make my art more appealing, i can grind out fundies all day but that doesnt make my style anymore appealing.

Do you think its the eyes or maybe my hair is too shaded compared to the rest of the body? anything helps

>>5013077
My main issue is with posting it online regularly.

>>5013088
appealing is such a loaded term because is it appealing for you, me, those nerds at cons or the general public?

really start stealing from what you like
and i mean pay attention to how they make not what they made

>>5013088
keep grinding and always apply the fundies you grind, anon. good luck!

How do I get over the fact my art will never be any good?

>>5013352
get good.

>>4992103
What program is this?

>>5013377
csp?

>>5013219
that looks good

I can't make conscious and decisive lines by shoulder drawing but I can't draw with my wrist either because I'm starting to feel carpal tunnel creeping in, what to do

>>5013219
hello bro. can you check my anatomy.

>>5013465
Draw bicycles. Precise long lines and big ellipses. You basically need to use your shoulder

>>5013352
anon, you matter

Can someone help me decipher this image.

I know it's showing how to clean up scans and I've made the pages but I'm just unsure what's being done on the actual pages.

Like is Layer 2 just being filled with white? Layer 3 with black?

>>5013543
Looks more like a proportion issue (too many heads to chest, too many heads from chest to stomach) and perspective problems of flattening that arise from unresolved issues of
>the body part needs to look right
>it can't because I made it too long

>>5013767
its been a year and my art still fucking sucks

>>5013814
Fill layer 2 with white, 3 with dark grey, 4 with light gray and set the blending of your layers to normal, color, color dodge, and burn

>>5013855
your progress mattesr

>>5013219
damn ok im digging the bod, thanks B

>>5013831
ah fuck youre right she looks horribly wrong proportion-wise. i really appreciate the feedback good sir.

What should I do after the 250 box challenge

I got an invite to cgpeers on another private tracker forum. Is cgpeers.to the right web address? Google shows cgpeers.com

>>5013543
hi anon. please take this with a grain of salt, I'm still learning anatomy as well. I'm not good at explaining, so just lay this over your original and see if you can make sense of it. good luck anon, hope this helps a little. p.s. the other reply isn't me

>>5014674
theyre both correct

>>5013465
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZWSQSSEjE

>>5013858
Thanks for spelling it out for me man.

will doing anatomy tracings help my sense of form for muscles?

how to get good at painting environments? I don't know where to start. Any good courses or books on environment painting?

>>5015116
>will understanding what something looks like help me draw it?
No way bro, just make stuff up as you go along. Pic related, it’s a figure drawing I did

are schoolism courses worth it 30 dollars a month or nah

>>5015106
>will understanding what something looks like help me draw it?
No way bro, just make stuff up as you go along. Pic related, it’s a figure drawing I did

>>5015142
come on dude

How did who ever made this draw good booba if they cant do a fucking box? Serious question

>>5015623
that's a fine box you crab.

"Don't get too technical with it"
- Glenn Vilppu

How do i get invited to some secret /ic/ server

>>5015655
>be a tranny
>be a crab in equal measure
>await your invite

why can't i draw anything good

why can't i draw anything good
im studying a lot but i feel even further away from drawing anything good

>>5015716
The more you learn, the more you realized you didn't know anything before. Your aesthetic sense and observational skills get better but your hands take a while to keep up. Apply your studies to your personal works and draw things that you have fun with, that works for me.

should i give up on making a webcomic since i can't write or draw backgrounds

>>5015738
i don't even know if its my hand that can't keep up, i just see that when i draw something there's more i need to study and i just nitpick myself more and more
i can't even bring myself to finish pieces and i just have sketches and i feel like drawing comforting things is a waste of my time
I feel like I've even lost my sense of creativity and confidence

Why most artist that use grayscale, color on a multiply layer, instead of a color layer?

>>5015824
>feel like drawing comforting things is a waste of my time
Well, if you're not having fun or enjoying it at all, that's the biggest waste of time in my opinion. Also, drawing things you enjoy and actually finishing a piece will bring more satisfaction and confidence than nitpicking half baked sketches and studies. You don't have to force yourself to only make good drawings, just draw first.

>>5015852
i want to draw dynamic characters in action, create epic fantasy shit in cool environments someday
my "comfort" drawings are just drawings that reinforce bad habits (no expressive faces, characters in boring poses, usually just the same characters looking flat)
when i try something different i just notice all the problems and i get to bad to crit for /beg/ responses. all this grinding is a waste since i can't even use it

>>5015852
i can't say i don't have fun creating, its just when i finish or stop i just realize everything wrong and realize i can't get to that perfection

>>5015808
>Writing
Robert McKee and Hirohiko Araki have books on writing. They're very good.

>Backgrounds
Perspective. It's easier than you think, anon. Give it a go.

>>5016018
I can draw the characters, but I just can't draw backgrounds like these

What would the purple lights inside the blue creature's mouth be? They look good but I can't identify a source

would it be a good idea to do anatomy studies with paint?
doing it in pencil and i feel like i get things to dark and end up making a mess

>>5016154
I just realized it's the tongue reflecting off of the shiny slime

>>5014823
>m.youtube

How to learn perspective?

how much art do you guys have saved on your computer

anyone else notice more and more stuff on google images is becoming webps

>>5015956
>>5015914
>i can't say i don't have fun creating, its just when i finish or stop i just realize everything wrong and realize i can't get to that perfection
Bad news, this feeling never truly goes away. And it's good, it lets you know what you have to work on next. For now, all that grinding isn't exactly a waste if you're learning something from it, but your learning would be a waste if you don't ever make any finished pieces. I would try working on finishing a few pieces first. You can do it, anon.

>>5016784
About 37-40 gigs

>>5016979
>And it's good, it lets you know what you have to work on next
the thing is... i already know what i need to work on
i "just drew" for so long and was just "blessed with knowledge" (that video mega) that i have a good idea of all my faults and there's a lot...

i still do some quick sketches of characters but i have such dissatisfaction with myself that i can't finish things

how do i grow the discipline to plan?

>>5017702
plan better rather

Is 25 to late

>>5017796
What else in your life that needs attention to make that excuse?

>>5015623
How do i color like this?

>>5018032
before i needed to focus on college (i wish i could have gone to art)
now that my survival needs have been meet, but also sorta been put on hold thanks to covid
my personal needs seem so big and unrealistic for me to truly reach

its weird, before i used to have the mentality i could have really started focusing on improving art later (as in now) but now i'm so stressed

>>5018177
Better late than never anon, might a well just start now. We got this anon in /beg/ who's probably older than you >>5014199

>>5018218
no we're the same age

is it cheating if i upscale my own art to make it look slightly better??

how do you guys do it with a full time job thats not related to art? can you actually get good