/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Fuck you Whitebox you drama queen.

>>4862176
fuck off back to your containment hole

>>4862184
Faggot

Hey, /alt. It's Whitebox here.

Things have been a bit rough for my family during the lockdowns. My father, my sister, and I were dealing with a lot of stress and chronic insomnia episodes as a result of the riots and my father's work situation. It took some friends of mine to help pull me out of a bad decision, based on some strange prediction inside my head. Words cannot describe how grateful I am to them during this difficult point in my life.

Thankfully things are starting to turn around for us.

One, my therapist has hired me to do two animations for $1,600 per month. His specialty is relaxation therapy, and helping people find ways to relax and sleep. We are finalizing the contract Tuesday.

Two, my father found a plan and he has a lot of people backing him to get the best possible deal.

Three, I'm currently negotiating a deal, where the head of the animation program has offered me a mentorship position, because they felt I was advanced enough to be an assistant. She's very fond of my work; we just haven't been able to find a deal on the courseload (to no surprise, much of it is general ed crap she believes I don't need.)

Things are starting to look up on my end.

I wish you guys at /ic all the best, and look forward to seeing you all grow as artists!

You can hit me up on Twitter, email, or my Discord if you ever want to talk.

-Jay

>>4862218
>getting your therapist to pay you not to kill yourself
you're still a fucking unbelievable faggot but that is pretty based

>>4862218
>Floyd almost rid us of WhiteBox
SO CLOOOOOOSE

>>4862218
Lmao all of /ic/ who criticized this man utterly btfod

>>4862218
lol i came into this thinking I was feeling bad, but this guy actually made it.

/ic/ just can't stop loosing.

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>>4862176
Just so ‘we’ are all on the same page, whitebox tried to make a new thread >>/ic/thread/S4862095 but it was too obvious that it was him, since he literally pulled the same twitter screen cap shit that he did when he made the last alt thread >>4854492

Then he proceeds to rotate his IP and make schizo shit posts to himself to get his name dropped in the first 5 posts for maximum visibility

Then pretends to actually reply as whitebox so he can post his copy pasta sob story

I must say that your shitposting art form is better than your actual art

>>4862218
>Things have been a bit rough for my family during the lockdowns. My father, my sister, and I were dealing with a lot of stress and chronic insomnia episodes as a result of the riots and my father's work situation. It took some friends of mine to help pull me out of a bad decision, based on some strange prediction inside my head. Words cannot describe how grateful I am to them during this difficult point in my life.
ABLOO BLOOO
I've had family fucking die of Covid. Fucking bitch, your therapist is only delaying the inevitable. You can't handle real life.

>>4862218
It's Saturday, delete your accounts already.

I wanted to see if there was a limit to how long i could make the legs. I think I can go longer

>>4862264
To make them this long, I think you really need a sublter taper. As is, these just look stretched.

>>4862264
Legs are starting to look a little out there, my man...

>>4862143
Yes it's the Don Bluth hair. I posted this in the sexy alt art but it's prob not as explicit as intended there so it's going here for crit.

reminder this thread isn't /beg/

>>4862331
I'm /beg/ging you to leave.

>>4862341
>leave for making the thread better
what did he mean by this

>>4862252
You’re schizophrenic

>>4862301
Blog?

>>4862264
Ink done, trying to make textures. I don’t know how to make koopas face look like its getting blown off. Any inking tips?

>>4862281
>taper
What do you mean by taper? Like top fatter than bottom? Upside down triangle?

>>4862289
I must try again

>>4862412
how long did it take you to develop your own style

>>4862412
LONG

>>4862301
i really like the hand's gesture, but it's a little too small and the construction feels off

>>4862218
Thank god im not American

>>4862218
not your blog faggot, curb the ego i dont give a shit about your life or art.

>>4862218
man, who fucking cares whitebox. The fuck outta here, attention whore

>>4862218
Please leave and never come back, whitebox.

>>4862259
I'm here friend. Had a very close family member lose to covid too.

>>4862301
you're free to post porn now since whitebitch is leaving

>>4862614
YES. Whitebox is gone post porn!

>>4862218
Please don't ever come back, you're like the hemorrhoid that refuses to go away and it reminds you it is there every time you take a shit or an ingrown toenail making your life miserable. Good riddance.

>>4862645
Based

>>4862218
Fuck off nobody cares. Shit like this should go in the vent thread yet you put it in here, as if anyone here gives a single shit about you. Good riddance. I hope you get covid too and get stuck with lifelong health issues.

>>4862412
>top fatter than bottom
Yeah. Yours goes from fat to thin too early, leaving a long portion of thinness. The curve of the lower leg should also be subtler here, because with it being this long, this thin, and so close to uniform thickness at the end, it reads as being too noodly.

>>4862705
Hey fisher

>>4862412
>I don’t know how to make koopas face look like its getting blown off.
I found that adding a zig-zag guide helps a lot with deforming something. Basically you draw a face or object sketch, then you put a guide - in this case you will want a sharp zig-zag like explosions in comics. And then you start deforming the face in accordance with this guide. Pull it where there are spikes, stretch and so on.

Also works for drawing how people look from under water - just put two different wavy lines on the sides.

>>4862218
wtf bros he made it

>>4862705
>when you become so degenerate you can just will the drawings into existence

>>4862761
faggot.

I really had a lot of fun painting this, but I can't post it on social media unless I give her a bra, a straw hat, and turn it into a beach scene with perhaps some muscular dude at the side to make it look like I didn't just care about drawing tits.
That way it'll be acceptable for my followers.

>>4863072
>>4860810

>>4862218

I saw you made an account on kiwifarms with the same handle you use everywhere. Kinda dumb bro. Anyway good luck with everything

>>4863088
I hate you

I know I have a lot to learn, especially in human anatomy, but I like to paint things with full BG. Advices are welcomed

>>4862218
Hey, I am glad things are looking up for you. Your last post had me worried.
Good luck on your future jobs. You made it!

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>>4862218
Didn't ask

>>4863094
Cry about it. This is /alt/, not /beg/.
You do not have an "alternative style" if you're still a beginner.

>>4863118
Pretty sure these threads have always been for showing off your anime drawings for fun instead of doing practices and looking for critique.

finally I can woof woof in peace

>>4862708
Someone’s grumpy

>>4862218
Who?

>>4863096
Make legs the same length. Also actually use perspective.

>>4862218
Im not reading all of this

>>4863183
tl;dr version: To all my haters who are permabeg, suck it because I made it.

>>4862705
>when you max out your ero-willpower
*Celestial hymns running on the background*

>>4863096
That's good, don't take the easy road. The colors work for me, pose legs might be a bit stiff and probably upper leg bend more to keep length somewhat more consistent between them. Try not to angle the feet exactly the same.
You could design the sword to be less medieval and more modern but depends on the setting I guess it fits with the background more, is kinda like a modern day character wormholed into a fantasy setting.

Half of my daily vfx, fucked the face and decided to make a gag for filler. I think is the mouth, but also the eyes... what a mess.

>>4863189
He only "made it" cause his therapist pitied him, and was afraid he was going to off himself.

>>4863388
>muh pride
I'd take that pity money without a second thought.

>>4863196
Done, fixed the face some.

>>4863096
Use a reference for the posture. The anatomy and posture are the worst part of the painting by far.

>>4863118
These threads are for cartooning or other stylized approaches to art.
It’s not a matter of having an “alternative” style, so much as it is doing something closer to a cartoon than reality.

oi

>>4862364
No, he's based and speaks the truth, kys whitebox.

>>4862218
nice blog post nigger

>>4863663
9/11 WAS HARD ON US ALL

>>4863101
No one cares white box, and everyone knows it's you.

>>4863972
He’s based on what, you stupid faggot? Type in proper English.

>>4863982
based on anonymous sources.

>>4863982
Based on facts and logic.

>>4863127
If you don't want critique, then go to /i/. This board is for people who want to improve.

>>4863735
And? Re-read the post you are responding to. If you are a beginner, you don't have a "style", you just don't know how to draw. Realism has nothing to do with it.

>>4864343
I think you're trying to put higher standards than usual on this thread, that's more appropriate for /draw/

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>>4862799
Thanks.

>>4864363
maybe stop posting here you stupid faggot.

>>4862412
The explosions were pretty fun. I really want to make the markers look pixely. Going to go another couple rounds.

>>4862416
Uhh idk, i think i have always drawn like this soooo 7yrs?

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>>4862712
I’m going to try it again. I like super long legs

>>4862762
Ah i was looking for traditional tricks, but I’ll give it a go

>>4863605
this is pretty cool looking

>>4864495
brap goals.

Here are my new anime clown OCs. They are homeless and smell extra bad.

>>4864359
If you consider not being a beginner to be a "high standard", then there's no helping you.

The work continues as always.

>>4864855

>>4864495
>Ah i was looking for traditional tricks, but I’ll give it a go
Erm, I was doing it traditionally, just at the pencil sketch stage. At inking stage it is too late.

>>4864996
You're an inspiration

>>4864858
your lettering is too small

>>4864495
I knew what this was when I saw the bare ink but told myself that I was just seeing things. Stupid fucking drawing.

>>4864363
>>4862761

Nice stuff, it’s rough but reads well. >>4862799 isn’t me

>>4862259
damn your a salty faggot. Maybe if you draw a couple more loomis heads you'll be able to make the best flavor of the month porn on twitter.

can I get at least a (you)

>>4864996
>sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff

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>>4862262
All these salty faggots and not a single one of you has posted your work. It is blogposting faggotry but this board try their absolute hardest to not draw and shit on the people who do draw.

>>4865227
Sure

>>4863096
An ambitious piece, good job! Even if stuff doesn't come out perfect the experience is invaluable.

>>4865227
This is good! But I'd like it better without that background, the seafom color don't really do it.


I didn't like this Link piece yesterday but I slept on it and now it looks ok.

>>4865247
i want link to beat me up

>>4864495
lol flaming watery ka-ka poopoo

>>4865247
the shadow shape on his ear makes it feel kind of thick and tube-y? if that makes sense

>>4865227
Yes. It's cute.

>>4865262
yeah Isee it, I draw weird thick elf ears

>>4865227
take a layer & go over the top of this and construct the forms as simple 3d shapes. specifically, making her dress & cape recede in perspective properly would be incredibly simple to do and make her not feel so flat. the design itself is cute (maybe a less default facial expression would be good though, an emotion besides resting moe-face would make her way more memorable) it just needs little tweaks here and there to becone very good.

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>>4865227
oh and i guess sense i've been thinking about this a lot too with my own drawings, here's a good example
>https://e-hentai.org/s/fe9af1c484/1431842-1
even when nishigori is doing something moe as fuck like this, every girl has a distinct expression & mannerisms. even when they smile, they don't smile exactly the same way
little details like that make all the difference

>>4865274
What do you mean by "cape recede in perspective properly", I'm not very smart sorry.
>>4865283
>:c

>>4865283
>sense

>>4865226
>your

i tried hard round brush

>>4865703
'Hard' refers to the hardness setting, which is the edge of the brush. It does not mean painting with 100% opacity.

it's hard to resist the urge to polish a rough sketch, even when i know im going to line over it soon.
also, does anyone have some decent mouth&teeth tutorials? i'm having a hard time bridging the gap between studies and stylized teefs

>>4865227
cute!

>>4865748
>i'm having a hard time bridging the gap between studies and stylized teefs
I don't quite understand what you're looking for. Like Stylization tuts for mouff? Maybe try cartooning books.

>>4864996
blog?

>>4865638
pyw.

>>4865876
Will my work help you learn how to speak English?

>>4865897
>Missing a common punctuation on a shitpost is not being able to speak english
pyw before you kill yourself.

>>4865901
>a common punctuation
>on a shitpost
Hello ESL.

Ladies, ladies, stop fighting.

>>4865923
Are you going to post your work faggot?

>>4865994
Are you going to learn English?

>>4866012
If you want more (You)s all you need to do is ask.

>>4864495
Fuck it, i can’t stop. I’m just going to go with it. Legs better? I fattened the thighs so I could make them longer. I tried tapering, but it didn’t have the right aesthetic. Maybe i need to make the hips wider too?

>>4864945
Gotcha

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>>4865251
It is what it is

>>4866180
Please I'm begging you work on your faces. They all look like anorexic grey aliens. Soulless and ugly as fuck

>>4866188
No, he's perfect. Shut the fuck up, crab.

>>4866180
Show her butthole pls

>>4866188
kinda tru

>>4866188

Mate, they don't look like ayys. I'm not the biggest fan of his style, but they sure as hell ain't ayys.

>>4866180
Yep. Legs look better.

If you want to get some fun with the effects, explosions, water and the like consider checking out Elemental Magic. It's 2 books by an animator on how to draw different special effects.

>>4864552
Thanks. Cool is what I'm going after!

More vfx. Not so great today, near fist from bottom looks iffy.

>>4866180
These legs are much better. As far as the taper, I think you're overthinking it, because you did taper them better here.
The point is just to have a subtle transition from thick to thin, and this one does that much better, and you don't have the noodle leg issue so much.
Also, I might caution against posting these farting ones to social media. Between this and the amputee ones you may get pigeonholed as a fetish artist.

>>4866013
Is that a no?

>>4866310
Oh this is nice

>>4866180
Bro...do you do these as a joke, or do you get off this kind of stuff? If it's a joke, it'd be a shame seeing you pigeonholed as a fetishfag like the other anon said. Once you're in, you can't get out.

>>4866310
i really like these anon.
have you ever read elemental magic? even if you only care about animu effects i think it's got a lot of really valuable knowledge on effects drawing.
i think you could also push the candle guy a bit more and it'd just make his swings feel that much more forceful

>>4866329
pyw first retard.

I'm a /beg/ but I'm going to ask here because /beg/ never answers my questions

How would I do something like pic related in color? Normally I would only draw in black and white, but I started screwing around with my pencil and using it to add a third tone, and I like the way it looks. How would I achieve the same effect with color though?

>>4866180
I messed up the goomba thats getting btfo. I was doing teh distortion grid, but then i over inked it. I guess I have to draw this again...

>>4866188
It’s on the todo list. if i don’t practice faces regularly, they get pretty shitty

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>>4866326
Thanks will do

>>4866513
I find the drawings silly and endearing. But I’ve noticed a lot of nsfw people following me. It breaks my heart... seems like everything is a fetish now a days.

>>4866218
Sigh...

why'd you retards give that attention seeker a (You)?

>>4866655
Just use three colors of varying lightness. Could do black + medium color + white. Or black + medium color + lighter color. Or you could even make the darkest shadow a neutral medium gray and slide the others up along the value scale. Or all three could be colors of any values of your choosing. As long as the values are different enough you can pick whatever you want and it'll read.

>>4866573
As funny as it is to make an ESL insecure, I'm not going to keep doing this with you all thread. Bye dipshit.

>>4866676
What are you talking about?
Say what you mean, you catty bitch.

>>4866688
You literally repeated the same thing over and over again like a fucking bot. Kill yourself.

>>4866696
you know exactly who, dyke

>>4866676
...(You) ;)

>>4866704
No I don't, you spastic.

>>4865748
so much for """quick""" doodle
oh well. i drew today.

>>4865802
cartooning books sounds like a good idea- ill take a peek

>>4866666
Wow
The brapfag reveal ends in absolutely cursed digits

>>4866728
>fishnet shirt under uniform
what a slut.
the patellas look a little wonky desu. i like what you're trying to do with them but do it better

>>4866758
It's a man. Diavolo's right hand man

>>4866856
boys can be sluts anon. also now that i look at it again , the eyebrows are kind of too close together and floating a little

>>4866728
>>4866856
Wait, this is supposed to be Doppio?
None of his defining characteristics come out here at all.
It's difficult to keep a resemblance while changing both the style and costume of a character, so you have to think carefully about what changes you can make and still keep it readable. For instance, if you want to give him a new costume give it some element in common with the original that identifies it as a variation. There's also easier things like making sure the facial features and expressions are reminiscent of the original. Specifically, the freckles aren't prominent enough, the face is too rounded and soft, the expression is too cheerful, and the eyes aren't lifeless enough. Look at pictures of Doppio, he looks crazed and out of it. The original design has deep orbits, wide open eyes, constricted pupils, and a thousand yard stare. Making the pupils smaller and making him more wall-eyed would help with that a lot. The defining characteristics of the hair are also obscured by the hat and the angle.

Also, in regards to the drawing itself, the pose is a little strange. The arms appear to be angled forward as if resting in the front pocket of a hoodie, but you have them behind the body. Given your apparent grasp of the fundamentals I doubt this is the case, but the pose really comes off as hand-hiding. And how is the pole being held? Where it is, it looks like it should be resting between his arm and body, but it's behind him.

>>4866747
The perspective is a little distracting for me here. I get that you're going for a middle ages look, but it looks like you're applying too much of a modern understanding of perspective while also not doing enough for it to be believable.

The pentacles in particular are too correct for the perspective of the rest of the image. In the middle ages they would be more inclined to draw flat circles than ellipses in perspective.

>>4866856
Dont discriminate. We can be sluts too.

>>4866999
boisluts matter

>>4866666
I like how the background came out. I want to try a few more things for BG colors

>>4866753
>brapfag
I’m sad that i have a new nickname.

>>4867069
used to like your art

>>4867069

>>4867069
>the best trad artist on /ic/ is a brapfag
ohno bros we got too cocky

>>4867122
yeah not even close.

>>4867069
>sad i have a new nickname
How? Youre unironically a brap retard, there's no way around it

>>4867069
You made baby Jesus cry

>>4867069
interesting work as always, however, I cannot sanction this buffoonery.
>>4866524
very nice so far. it would be nice to see the neck extended upward a little more, rather than kept so close to the shoulders.

>>4865232
I thought you're leaving whitebox

>>4866999
based boislut

>>4867069
BRRAAAAAAAAAAAPAPAPAPPAAAAHSHHSHHHAHAAAPPPPPPPEERERERREREAAHHHHHHHHSSHHIIAAAPPPPP

>>4867069
That thing has no muscle on its ass. It looks like two eggs.

>>4865232
>Abloobloobloo, I'm gonna leave forever, please pay attention to me
>Actually, I changed my mind. How dare you not praise me for staying
woof woof please go

trying to get the perspective down before I get any further

Probably will do more with this tomorrow. The jeans are making me nervous

>>4867426
it does look pretty wobbly around the knees

>>4864996
AHH please blog

>>4867344
>>4867344
Based schizo posters.

still studying how to colour, also i should make more efforts to draw a bg

>>4866728
Blog?

>>4867426
i love this shit. please finish it

>>4867980
professorsugoi on the twitter

>>4867004
amen

>>4866954
the outfit is kind of a joke that got out of hand. i've never seen the season this boy is from, i only know that a friend of mine really likes him. they also like the way i draw cutesy things, so i went from there. apologies to any devout jojo fans.
(said friend really helped to re-ignite my love for drawing, so i got carried away with the details. i wanted to give this art alot of effort, as i cherish this friend greatly, and all they've done for me)

i appreciate the anatomy crit though. especially this bit, because i didn't even notice
>arms angled forward, but also behind the body

>>4867946
Fix the hands pls. Also the skin is too saturated fir my taste

tfw your art gets no replies

>>4868281
Careful what you wish for

Guess it turned out ok, I always want a lineless look but cave and go back to lines in the end. Need study jeans one day though.
>>4868097
Thanks. I really liked your drawing too (the pink guy).

>>4868325
>Need study jeans one day though.
Why not today?

>>4868328
Soon for sure. I've been studying various things for months and just kind of exhausted with it, want to start finishing more things.

>>4868337
Oh yeah, you definitely need to keep a balance of study and personal work so you don't get burned out.

>>4868281
If you're not asukafag or tableguy you're probably getting no replies.

>>4862468
Nice arms check the proportions when you stick them on bodies

>>4862704
Cute nerd snek

>>4863169
You spend too much time on the face, the body looks lazy. Next time you can jsut crop at the top of the shoulders for a quick win. Or you can spend more time on the whole bust

>>4864678
They don’t look very clown like or homeless / dirty

>>4867411
It doesn’t have to be super precise with the head counts. Just get the general feel right and go with it. Foot too big. The profile shot has the foot only slightly above ground. The ball looks like it is floating int he perspective shot

>>4868281
Hope i got you bro

>>4867069
I just figured out that I can cram more vertical drawing into the paper if I dutch angle the viewpoint. Going to try the explosions again.

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>>4867329
I’m going to regret responding to these, but it’s just a fart joke. Like from elementary school cartoons when Dexter has a stomach ache and he farts and blows the TV through the wall. Does nobody make poop or fart jokes anymore in 2020? Is humor from the 90s now just fetish shit?

>>4867336
My butts are pretty lame. It’s hard to find muscular butts flexing without traveling too far down the rabbit hole.

>>4868375
Or whitebox who is quit, but then not quit, then posts blog without anyone asking, then samefags to his own posts to suck his own dick, then posts wip #590438206042

>>4868410
lol watch him wait for the new thread then post another blog about his life

>>4868396
bowser was fun to ink, coloring in a bit, i fucked the anatomy but maybe i can hide it with flashy colors

>>4868695
Your inks are groovy, and I know it's no joke to get good at real inks. Great job.

>>4868695
Is she gonna braap Bowser to death too?

>>4867069
wats in her crotch? her hand?

luv it as always tablegod

>>4868695
why are jellyfags hating?
looks dope my dude

>>4868836
brap sucker

tablebrap

>>4866747

>>4868695
One day i would like to make backgrounds of any color... I think if I do like a dozen more BGs i can make something kind of cool

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>>4868710
Thanks! It was a good ink this time no regrets.

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>>4868737
You can pretend like he farted and his stomach blew up

>>4868831
ya she’s pulling down her pants

>>4869643
Looks like you're going back to adventure shit. Your Bulma stuff was cool, even made me back to read the actual DB manga.

I'm about to commit to this with lines, is there anything I should fix before then?

>>4869893
fat schnoz

>>4869893
It's-a me, Mario!

>>4869904
Looks more like Jackie Chan

>>4869904
>>4869896

How's this?

>>4869918
Make the nose smaller. You can either have anime proportions or realistic ones but you need to decide which one and move/size the facial features accordingly.

>>4869922
I get that a lot and I'm still generally struggling to find a balance of proportions in my work.

Is this small enough? Also should I just scrap this nose and go for the tiny 'L' shape that's more common?

>>4869929
Oop I messed up and forgot the image

>>4869930
>>4869929
The way you're trying to draw the nose is fine its the size thats throwing me off. I think you're closer with this one, somethings kind of funny about her expression though i can't really put my finger on it

>>4869329
Cool stuff anon

>>4865103
Thanks I knew it wasn’t you someone just hates me lol

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>>4869893
This is the reason everyone hate westerners trying to make "muh anime just added tumblr nose and realism". You guys are just completely disregard the anime style rules and just forcibly make them more masculine, more disproportionate and thus much much uglier.

Stop this and never try again you blind cunt.

>>4870214
I don't even like the style but I enjoy seeing how much it triggers animefags.

>>4870214
Dude I just draw whatever I want for fun, idk about any of that other shit you're talking about. I never had any kind of formal training and obviously I watch western and eastern cartoons so what I draw will look like a mix of both. That will not change, I promise you, but im willing to make changes if I think they look nice. Not to mention, the rules of anime aren't at all static. Look at jojo, look at berserk. Both from successful Japanese artists that everyone would consider anime. Sure you can not like my style-- which I totally get, Im not a professional, but then you look a little silly going on about muh pure anime style when there are hundreds of styles under the umbrella of anime that treat facial features differently. In conclusion, suck my dick.

Anyway

>>4869936
I get you, I've been sliding the nose and mouth around for a while and it doesn't feel quite right yet. Is there anything you would suggest for pushing the emotion further? Thank you for your time btw

>>4870214

>anime style rules

no rules
only tools

>>4870214
>>4869930
that's not really the problem.
here are the issues:
>mouth and nose are misplaced. they aren't in the center of the face and they don't line up with the nose bridge you already drew either
>the lips are very ...unique. i figure you were trying to draw normal looking lips so this is probably bad.
>the nose is the kind of button-nose that only babies and small children have imo. it will never look good on a developed face.

>>4870260
Good points, ill apply it when I wake up
As far as noses, should I simplify or lean into more anatomically correct here?

>>4870276
it's up to you. it's a stylistic choice.

>>4869643
I feel like your BGs are a little too close in value to your foreground. And they are also pretty busy with all the effects.

just learned i should not be exporting as .png for twitter...

>>4870962
ok wtf why did the color desaturate when i posted this?

>>4871491

trying new shit

Practicing hair rendering

>>4870962
Stop hiding your hands/arms, adding a cute hand gesture would make the right side pose a lot more lively.

Ir seem everyone just draws anime, makes sense since this is 4chan, but anime faces all look the same in my opinion very dull.

>>4871768
Post something different instead of bitching, then.

>>4871731
>oink oink
pig nose

>>4871750
looks good, just add a face you big dummy, also watch out on the aliasing on the edges

>>4871770
pyw

>>4871793
>>4871770

>>4871786
why not

>>4870197
the silhouette is shiet, i wound't mind if your lines weren't this measy, but if you don't want to clean your shiet, at least make it readable

I think I'm gonna draw this again tomorrow, I only started putting ink on a brush yesterday

I think I fucked up representing the bend on her arm, now it just kinds looks too short. Looked good before I drew this hoody fug

>>4870965
probably because of web color profiles

>>4870260>>4870276
I sort of saw the same but to me it was the far away eye that I changed. Leaving this but not too sure honestly the original has personality even if it gets hate I feel it's laudable to do your own thing OP.

>>4866404
Thanks!
>>4866530
I have actually a couple of times over the years but my issue seems to be more about graphic design right now. The book is mostly about looking at forces like gravity/energy transfer and how they affect the fluids (like hot air with cold air, losing energy further away you go from the flashpoint source) and the advice of the book is mostly go look at real stuff, simplify and exaggerate. Anyways, you are right, I wish I could do candle was guy gesture better and also better anatomy on it.
>>4868325
Lot of personality! I like torso and face specially, I think pants could use not as much wobbling waves and some sharp breaks downwards thrown in between.
>>4869329
Indie game ready.
>>4871731
Colors are pleasing, upwards tipped nose I find tricky to make appealing but you should mark the planes somehow, else feels a bit snake snout.
>>4871750
Nice colors, you could sharpen some of the edge brakes between tones.
>>4871888
That's a tricky one I think it should go lower but honestly maybe it just need to come out more (bigger?).

I'm still working on this but wanted to ask, are the particles too much? I'm trying to add a sense of speed but I might be overcluttering. Suggestions appreciated.

>>4867411
>>4868383
thanks for the feedback, anon. Here's a little update. Might have to change the pose to make it look like she's stepping on a motorcycle helmet and not a floating ball.

>>4872252

here's another one. Trying to be more conscious of form in space.

>>4872252>>4872257
Those are good exercises to do, are you doing gesture studying alongside?

>>4872250
Update, still want to work on it but now might read better with shadows. Still unsure about particles.

asked this in the software thread but i'll ask here too:
anyone know the difference between the old manga studio and the current CSP? like how the versions correlate to each other, and whether there have been any major improvements in functionality or performance.

i'm still on an old pirated version of manga studio. it works perfectly fine but i'm still curious.

>>4867069
Is it just me or do the legs that you draw get longer with each and every drawing?

>>4862143

>>4873163
What webtoon is that pic from anon?

>>4868410
Why are you letting him live rent free in your head? Why the fuck are there so many mentally ill niggers that don't even draw on this board?

It has been a while

>>4873763
love the shape of the underside of the dress created by the ruffles.

>>4871800
not attractive.

>>4873763
dress in a completely different perspective than her

>>4869643
If they were mario sisters would their names be Maria and Lucia? M’s giving L a wet willy. I don’t think that is a fetish

At the very end i decided to dress her in a flapper outfit, but i wanted to keep the sneakers

>>4869699
Ah i need to finish that picture

>>4870923
Should i go darker with the BG? I’m having trouble picking low saturation markers.

>>4873201
Challenge accepted, i made these legs longer. At some point even I will find them too long.

>>4870962
>just learned i should not be exporting as .png for twitter...
why

>>4873869
it compresses them, the file and looks like shit when u upload it.
jpeg quality is preserved however

>>4868383
how the hell are you? just curious.

>>4873752
Amazing

Is it true that Asukafag and tumblr queen are dating now? I heard that is why they both stopped posting in alt

>>4873848
How so ? is there a way to fix it ?

>>4873947
I’m good

>>4867069
While the subject matter tickled my infantile sense of humour and the image is well drawn, I really think you should experiment with different body types.

You draw all your girls exactly the same and it's gotten quite boring and predictable.

>>4873978
>mfw when queen shows him her glorious armpits
not fucking fair bros

>>4874029
Do you think he draws portraits of her? Her face looks similar to asuka and is a little mannish like his usual “cute face” drawings

>>4873163
what's you blog anon, I really like the semi flat shading you're doing

>>4873855
>Should i go darker with the BG?
Depends on what is your BG and foreground but in case of explosions you can safely darken the BG a lot. Explosions are supposed to be bright and with how our eyes work they would automatically try to adjust making everything else look much darker.

>>4873564
Eh.. webtoon? None, it's something I do to explore vfx and color stuff.
>>4874146
Well I came around making up a Newgrounds account so here it goes. https://rotohail.newgrounds.com/
>>4873163
Changes, some fixing, moving onto another.

>>4874420
The hands blend too much, the colours and the constrast... well there'isnt much contrast, I'ts hard to tell when her hands or his start. If you don't want to change the base cokours try ading an overlay layer with an orange/blue on his hands or something idk

>>4874508
Oh! Many thanks, very good point I actually was wondering about that, tried to fix it by making his darker but yeah it still was a bit hard to read how about now?

>>4874534
lighting, would be better ill say, you have a lot of light, no reason not to use it. also the green isn't reflecting anywhere, you could use that too

>>4874588
Hmm, yeah I could push the greens but not all lighting contributes equally, sun will overpower other lights quickly so they will only show in the shadows and if you add such a strong screen/overlay you get a metallic sheen feel now that I'm looking at it but thanks tho! I think what I would have to do is push the dark in places if else or add dark gradations. I'm still trying to figure out lighting overall.

>>4874534
All I can think of when looking at this is "SO LONG, GAY BOWSER!".

There are a number of issues that are making this image hard to read, and even a little tough to look at. As a matter of fact, I have actually come into this thread several times, opened it, thought for a moment about trying to give a critique, and then moved on, specifically because looking at it is too difficult. That may sound harsh, but let me explain:
1. The color contrast is poor. Zoom out from the image and squint your eyes- can you make anything out? The color scheme of each element individually is solid, but together, everything is just merging visually. The easiest fix may be to paint over the arms in the foreground, and the ground to give them more contrast. >>4874588 is a lot clearer, but the hands are still blending with her arms.
2. Those pose needs to be a lot more dynamic here. They're flying through the sky and apparently spinning, but the only things telling me that are the VFX and her hair. Despite all that motion, the figure looks almost like she's standing. Twist the torso, make it arc forward or back a bit, and stagger the leg position more. Look at how people move when they are swimming underwater. There needs to be more flow, more freedom of movement.
3. There is virtually no breathing room in this illustration. I would honestly double or even triple the canvas size here. Remember, they're flying, so you should be emphasizing the vast sky, the wide open plains underfoot. As is, everything is crammed in so tight that it's hard to even know where to look. You even have some visual tangents with the wings at the edge of the canvas. I get the sense looking at this that you made several drawing decision based on trying to fit elements in to your tight canvas.

All 3 of these issues combined are also having the effect of almost looking like she's just standing on the ground, and the fact that we don't see either of her feet just adds to that confusion.

cont.

>>4874689
Those are the biggest issues with the image, but there are a couple of smaller problems. The anatomy is a little strange and lopsided here. In particular, the breasts and lats are on crooked, and the girl's figure is just overall too masculine.
I'm also having a tough time seeing where the wings connect. The black branch of the wing mimics the shape of shoulder pad, and on her right it actually looks like the shoulder pad is slotted into the base of the wing.

>>4874689>>4874693
Didn't get the Bowser reference, sorry nintendo is not really something I've touched in decades.
I agree with the anatomy and other drawing issues, I need to brush up on all of that and do better forms. I'm fine with the tangents I may have for now, none jump at me as being overly troubling at showing space and tangents with the edge of frame don't bother me all that much. Cramped is totally fine, exactly what I wanted for this one. Pose I think I could had done better indeed, but also thought well if I go too crazy wouldn't it be too rough? Is more like teasing someone without putting them in danger.
Many thanks for the write up! Means a lot.

>>4874717
>Didn't get the Bowser reference
Just an old Mario 64 meme, don't worry about it.

>I'm fine with the tangents I may have for now
>Cramped is totally fine, exactly what I wanted for this one.
These may be fine for you, but I'm telling you as a viewer that they are hurting the piece. Remember, I came into this thread specifically to try to give someone critique, but the image actually discouraged me from looking at it long enough to do so, multiple times. And it's a pretty good painting! It's just that there are some major compositional issues at work here.

It may be better to take that advice into the next illustration, rather than pouring much more into this one, but I do think it would benefit you to at least expand the canvas and see what it would look like roughed out.

>but also thought well if I go too crazy wouldn't it be too rough? Is more like teasing someone without putting them in danger.
How do you mean? Are you saying you don't want the swinging/pulling to seem too violent? I don't think making the pose more dynamic would put you in any danger of that. The issue is selling the motion, and the pose needs to flow more to do this.

>>4874733
Well tangents if they don't create depth confusion all they do is create tension. Tension is fine for the angle I'm going for. I wanted to put emphasize on him being dragged so it's like your heart jumps out a bit, so visual tension adds to the sense of "wrongness" I would like you to feel since I can't use audio cues, only visually influence you.
Same for cramped, showing more sky or land or a bigger frame would throw away part of the tunnel vision you would get if that happened. When your heart races a bit because you get a jump scare your vision tunnels. I would like you to see it from his eyes at that moment when something "changes" you know, like when your heart skips a beat?
I understand you as a viewer might disliked it but I make those choices with a purpose (albeit the tangent ones are more a byproduct and not actually deliberate).

Well the pose could be better but so far what I got is head tilted as in inviting, or you know turning and grabbing someone like a "come with me" action? It's subtle I want you to see her kinda like teasing in a fun way without being too forceful. Is like an invite to play.
Their two perceptions are in conflict somewhat. She is having fun at his expense he is slightly worry as in, "let me go damn it this ain't funny". So that's what I tried to convey.

I'll do that tho, always carry advice onto the next but damn me if my issues don't pile up ha ha. Thanks again.

>>4872241
Aww hell, I'm only now seeing this edit
Thanks anon
I ended up moving the entire face lower to put it more into perspective and generally push the eyes closer to the nose to pucker the entire face a tiny bit more. Also I scooched the mouth and nose over
Still not done yet and I'm willing to move features around still if I messed it up

>>4874744
>Well tangents if they don't create depth confusion all they do is create tension
There's another effect that tangents at the edge of a canvas have specifically: confusion in regards to how much more there is of something. Based on the proportions of the rest of the wings, and having seen other similar designs in the past, I would assume that the top most long portions of the wing don't extend much past the canvas, correct? However, because this termination is so close to the edge of the canvas, the natural assumption is that they extend MUCH further. This is because when objects extend out of the canvas, without sufficient evidence for how much further out they terminate, the psychological effect is that they appear to extend infinitely. Try this out. Find a photo of a few farm animals in a field, perfectly contained within the border of the photo. Then I want you to crop the photo such that the left and right edges partially cut off one or more of the animals. This should give the impression that the handful of animals actually depicted are really part of a larger group of animals, with an indeterminate size.

>I wanted to put emphasize on him being dragged so it's like your heart jumps out a bit, so visual tension adds to the sense of "wrongness" I would like you to feel
In my opinion, this would be even clearer if you expand the canvas at the top and sides. If you leave it cropped in tight at the bottom, it would make that part of the composition read as his world, which would better illustrate the concept of being yanked out of one's comfort zone, into an overwhelming, vast, frightening, beautiful world.
Giving yourself more room would enable you to add some curvature to the horizon which would emphasize that even more.

>Well the pose could be better but so far what I got is head tilted as in inviting, or you know turning and grabbing someone like a "come with me" action?
No, that part is working fine, the head is the best part of the painting.

>>4865103
>>4862705
man fisher, why'd you go and delete your twitter again? tf

>>4865103
>>4862705
>>4875403
He's trying to be le cult artist.

>>4875413
forgot.
Once an artist gets a tiny bit more experimental, they always delete their stuff because wooo can't have everything in one place, gotta hide man. Gotta be more mysterious.

>>4874758
Ha, funny to imagine that actually, infinite wings. To me it works either way if a viewer decides they are long or short suits me fine for this. I'm not sure I would refer myself as tangents to cropping in or out things tho.
Well I'll try on another one to see if giving more space works or not, never hurts to check.
Alright, head works then.
>>4874756
That works just fine too! End results you got works for me.

Leaving something I'm doing as testing for a banner. Perspective is bonked on through the character on purpose to give a sense of surrealism and uneasiness, but I should fix the window.

>>4875764
This looks really good. You have a blog?

>>4873855
Why does this ink feel flat? I really tried to put a lot of soul into it, but it just didn’t come together. Maybe a bad sketch?

going to try some new stuff on this coloring

>>4874018
I’m on a skinny girl kick going to see how far it takes me

>>4874370
K I’ll try it

>>4876221
OH MY FUCKING GOD JUST FUCKING DRAW SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE AND NOT ANOTHER FUGLY CRACK WHORE LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER!!!! JUST DRAW SOMETHING ELSE F

I like using pixelated halftones, but I feel like it's more of a gimmick than a style. It's just so fun though.

>>4876221
fuck, what an obnoxious edgelord style.

>>4876221
ugly-ass skeletons aside; vary your line width according to the light source, in areas affected by ambient occlusion, and in places where it helps to describe form/texture. right now you're suffering from every 'how to draw lineart uwuwuwu' weeb tutorial on youtube by just varying the line width in random places.

>>4876275
>>4876243
Bitter faggots.

Damn this place is toxic, idk why I even came back to this website

>>4876320
>toxic
You're either a woman or a teen

>>4876320
go back to your containment redditard

menat sketch face cute?

thoughts?

>>4876389
Helping Hand?

>>4876284
No even them, but why are you pretending that he doesn't draw the same shit every day and hasn't stagnated hard? Just because he posts here doesn't magically make him any better than sakamichan or any of the other fags this board shits for being a one trick pony.

>>4876554
I'm not pretending shit, I'm just rightfully calling out bitter, vendetta posting faggots. Tableguy applies critique, draws what he likes, and doesn't act like a defensive faggot, unlike most people that post their art here. The real reason you're mad is because you're jealous, and that is obvious to any casual observer.
This is shameful behavior.

>>4876560
>Jealous
Not everyone wants to draw the shit he draws, your star struck faggot. And why are your panties in a twist over another artist getting criticized anyway? It's literally none of your business nigger.

>>4876284
What does it matter to you? It's what he likes. Critique his anatomy, composition or whatever, but the dude knows what he wants in art already.

>>4876554
>why are you pretending that he doesn't draw the same shit every day
What's wrong with that? He has a style, draws what he likes, and applies critique to his work while focusing on his own personal sense of aesthetic and taste in subject matter.

>>4876606
> And why are your panties in a twist over another artist getting criticized anyway? It's literally none of your business nigger.
Why are you getting your panties in a twist over some random artist?
Anyone can say whatever they want here, if you can crab on anons, other anons can call you a jealous bitter /beg/ too

>>4876606
Shut up faggot.
No one cares about your gay little vendetta.

Shut up niggers!

go my children goooo >>4876682

>>4876389
If I see it right she has very bad form with hips and shoulders going at an angle to each other. The jumping part kinda ok but her right boob is too low.

Tried this