/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I hate coomers, but its the only easy way to get quick cash

>>4837323
lol
I wish I could even draw well enough to crank out some of that weirdo shit
It’s staying motivated while starting considering the frustration what is difficult

I'm pregnant.

>>4837369
eyy, congrats!

>>4837323
I feel the same way

>>4837310
I got suspended from FA. The message said "one more error and i gonna be perma-banned and all my shit deleted" i have like 200 watchers BTW, i can't comunicate with anyone until the suspention is finnish.

My first post to get into the thousands and its a fucking meme image.

>>4837416
What is a meme image? Is it something you drew?

>>4837369
Congrads, but Rip to all art gains if you cant offload the kid onto others.

whenever i hold a pen tablet i get negative gains

>>4837450
Literally just a half-assed edited image.

I want to draw coom art but I keep spending all day hoarding more material for reference and inspiration. I don't even know what I'd start with if I were to actually draw.

ive had a patreon for over 2 years and its doing insanely well now but i dont want to draw anymore i just want to play videogames.

Feels like it's impossible to take a break or everyone will leave.

>>4837510
I draw coom art and have been getting back into it since the summer and I have a similar problem.

I have ideas of who I want to draw, but I lack the motivation sometimes or spend more time than I should looking for the "right" ref pose to get the best results possible when I upload the finished piece to my Pixiv and my IG.

>>4837515
Just do the minimum and make something once a month, thats what I do.

there's this girl who mentioned that she found my art cool and now I've caught feelings for her and daydream about us becoming an item despite only being aquaintances, I wish getting compliments wasn't such a severe weakness

>>4837521
Anon, just be friends with benefits with her.

Plus, we live in a world with BILLIONS of women.

You'd get bored of the girl who complimented your art eventually anyhow and find yourself wanting to fuck another girl.

Don't publicly post your art works if you can't handle criticism. Thank you.

>feeling rusty, need something to warm up
>figure hey, I haven't used that line of action site in a while guess I could do some gestures
>load it up
>first picture is a half clothed kid doing karate I mean sure I guess, I sketch it
>next picture is a half clothed kid
>picture after that is a half clothed kid
>toddler wearing ballerina clothes after that
>keep flicking through
>3/5 of the pics are children
Hey did something uh, happen, to the line of action site that I'm not aware of?

>>4837497
>be artist on art board
>shoop shitty meme instead of drawing your own version
do i have to do everything myself?

>>4837310
Can I get that Usagi pic without "VENT" on it, please?

>>4837591
I wasnt home so I only had my phone to make an edit, and it seemed funnier at the time to make it look low effort. Also strangely enough a few, more popular artists ended up stealing it from me and reposting it. I guess its not too big of a deal since its just some low effort edit of a meme but god damn.

>>4837592
The OP cropped pic

>>4837616
And the full image

>>4837369
Congratulations. Hope your got someone to help you with the kid otherwise you gonna be taking a looooooooooong break assuming you even want to go back to doing art.

>>4837601
are you legit retarded?

>>4837628
Based ESL

>>4837510
You are never going to find the 'right ref' since you really have no idea what you want to do.

Your best bet would be to just draw what you have right now until you get good enough to just be able to know what you want to draw and are able to look for ref that's 'close enough' to help you out.

>>4837369
Sucks to be you.

This depression has killed me. Rather this reality had killed me. I am no longer me but a husky and wears something of what I think my face looks like. My soul is dead. And my daydreams are fragments. But I still want to create my own personal wonderland. A place to retreat to and be a source of my creativity. I let this depression keep me in a vegetated state for far to long, with no thoughts.
I can't seem to break the fears that is holding me back. But I've identify it as two fears. Fear of vulnerability. I'm too afraid of making a ass of myself. I don't want to be mock more then I already am. But if my corporeal being is trapped in this depressing reality, then I might as well have fun. I've been fighting off the fact that I need to accept that I'm eternally trapped in being a wage slave, to get screamed after and nothing but a series of failed relationships. Everyday it becomes more apparent. I need a wonderland to retreat to. I need to develop thicker skin, because some people get off to tearing others down. I want to feel unphased in exploring my wonderland, despite how cringey it may get. I rather it be my last thoughts then this miserable life.
Fear two, is the fear of realizing of how uncreative I am. I fear of realizing how many ideas have been influenced or straight up plagiarize. I should accept the fact no one is truly original. Even the greats where inspired by the people around them. But I fear the years of mindless consumption of media has damaged my ideas. I recognize when a idea was taken somewhere else and it loses all it's fun. I allow that too easily stop me in my daydreams. I need to accept that sometimes it won't be very original. Sometimes I can think of a creative spin to put on it and that'll be good enough.
I just want to create a wonderland, no matter how delusional it may seem. I'm not smart, I'm not attractive and I'll never be rich. I'll never go to space but I can in my mind.

It's late, I should sleep.

No one ever draws my fetish, this annoys me so much I have to do it my self. which is semi strange to me as it seems have some intrest into it, and it's not super strange or really disgusting

>>4837884
Have you tried cooking Anon? Learning to cook meals for myself, especially dishes I like from fast food (healthier because it's cooked at home) really got me to a point where I'm less hard on myself. Like teaching myself to feed myelf helped me at least.

Not saying I'm 100% not depressed now. I guess if I had to vent: I hate how my wrists hurt before bed. Like it keeps me up at night. Sometimes it's worse on days I don't even draw, so that just confuses me.

>>4837409
What you do?

>>4837310
I'm so sleepy aaahhhh

>>4837908
I do cook but it doesn't make me feel better. Neither does exercising, but I still like to try and run. Ive been told that I have clinical depression. But then at the time I lost my job and didn't see a reason to go back and it's been years.

>>4837924
Eh sorry bud no one can help you but yourself. Find something to spark you or go to a professional. I settled into a "norm" that's bearable after 10 years of wasting my life away so idk.

>>4837907
tells us the fetish

>>4837961
Second let's help this guy fill his folder

>>4837961
It's monster girls based of fish or other marine life, a good example would be the zora from breath of the wild, although i'm not THAT big into mermaids

I spend 99% of time just laying on bed

>>4838050
Get up and start exercising you lazy fuck

>>4837907
>>4838012
>No one ever draws my fetish
>It's monster girls based of fish or other marine life
What about Undyne?

>>4838052
calling someone lazy wont make them be productive

>>4838052
I can't there's a powerful immersive force tying me on the bed

>>4838068
Yes it will, my parents always called me a lazy sack of shit and after years of procrastinating and throwing away my life I realized how right they were

I downloaded paint tool sai 2 weeks ago and i still cant get around the program the brushes are not maneuvering the way i want it to. how can i get used to drawing on this program? im a bit frustrated with the sketching brushes

>>4838066
shes not very appealinging to me at all, also her teeth are too big

I remember there's other anons interested in CSP in few threads ago?
CSP is 50% now.
Time to buy it.

>>4837310
I hate how my circle has the participation trophy mentality which is ironic because half of them mock SJWs for the same reason.

>>4838077
Anon...

>>4838094
Thanks for the reminder senpai

>>4838174
i just bought it.
But the shortcut keys are completely different than Krita.
Fuck me.
Now i have to learn how to use it.
Any CSP pros can suggests tutorials/videos to watch for the tools and shortcut keys?

>>4838178
Reuben Lara has an extremely good yt vid on it. He even gives you designated times to pause and try things out

>>4837619
fuck i never wouldl've known this was a pic of her taking her shirt off wtf

>>4837619
why can't I draw elegant hands like this and instead end up with agonized monster claws

>>4838215
not really, she's crying but just holding the sides of her shirt for some reason at school, because some shit happen to darien.

>>4838178
Just configure the shortcuts the way they were in krita. It's in the file menu

>>4838012
I'm surprised this isn't more common, especially with the Zora princess from OoT and shit.

>>4838253
>Zora princess from OoT
Awkward kind of boner as a kid picking her up and throwing her in a slimy fish stomach.

>>4838253
yh me too, especially since I think the zora women from botw are so delectable

>>4837924
Being depressed in this shit world we've crafted is a completely rational response and you shouldn't feel bad about it. And yes, I mean the world even before recent events.

>>4838012
I'll draw your fetish anon, tell me what you want

>>4838276
something ass focused like in the reference,

also IF you are going to colour it could you make the zora woman a pale violet/light greyish instead of red?

daily reminder that art is not a life struggle and you're all whining children, get a job.

>>4838372
I have a job and I'm struggling. What now?

I know self diagnosing normies isn’t a meme, but is there a good way to tell if you might have mental issues without seeing a shrink.?

>>4838323
Sure, I'll respond in this thread or the next one. Not sure how complete it'll get but I need an excuse to draw today

>>4838372
>art is not a life struggle
It is when it's your livelihood

>>4837924
Maybe you should try to find someone to talk to?

i will not make it
good luck to all of you

>>4838094
Nice, i was waiting for the sale to get it.
Got the pro version just to be safe.

>trying to do some anatomy studies
>look up yoga
>look up tai chi
>this is really cool but they are wearing baggy clothes
>google naked tai chi
>porn
>porn
>more porn
wew thank you coomers

>>4838409
Based, thank you anon

>>4837369
F

>>4838446
I'm dragging you along with me whether you like it or not. We're both GMI.

>>4837310
>drawing: :)
>stop drawing: :(
what a conundrum

>joined a discord of some random artist 2 days ago off twitter
>sat there thinking to myself the artist seemed very familiar
>it dawned on me they used to post here on this board years ago

jeez, that's what I call stumbling upon someone who is making it

>>4838532
have any of their old draws fren?

everytime i try to draw fat girls i get too horny and it breaks my focus

>>4838462
Not the other anon, but you might like fan art for minette from skullgirls.

>>4839109
every canceled skullgirls character is so heartbreaking

>>4837547
I guess that's why people hardly recommend line of action

>>4837369
>pregnant
then I assume that you're at the height of your career and have a lot to offer to your futur child, congratz

>>4837310
some night i stay up cashing in my bad luck

>get a DM on instagram
>"hey anon I like these old pictures you made, can I buy the rights to use 3 of them for 100€"
>e-mail the pictures to the person, get free monies on Paypal instantly
>be next day
>one of your favorite musicians releases a song
>mfw your picture gets used in promo art for the song
>music news sources post about the song, also attaching your art
>you get credited by name on the musician's public posts
>strangers DMing you with congratulations

>>4839189
thas a win in my book

>>4839189

is that bad?

>>4839116
Indeed. Being able to make character designs as appealing as cancelled sg characters is one of my art goals

>>4839189
You might have fucked up by taking too little for them or not writing a proper contract but hopefully this leads to more work for you.

>>4837310
I CANT FEEL BOTH MY SHOULDERS
WHY CAN'T WE DRAW FOREVER

>>4839237
You're not a printer anon. Go live life

>>4839189
take this as a learning experience.

>>4839109
minette doesnt really appeal to me either, something to do with the fin/hair thing she has going on

Instead of being productive in any way for the past hour, I cyber stalked bitches I knew from high school, sifted through for decent photos, collected them and added them to a secret album on the internet for future wanking. Fuck I’m so sick in the head. I mean, I don’t really care about the moral implications of that, but I’m just frustrated

I can't seem to grasp any artistic concepts and I don't seem to improve. It feels like I can only generate garbage and when I consider the massive amount of years I absolutely wasted, I'm plagued by feeling like it is way too late to ever make it. Paired with the fact that I feel like this is what I've always wanted to do and having failed in every other aspect of my life, both what I have to do and what I want to do, I'm constantly tempted to just an hero and hope there's some infinite afterlife to work on.

I shouldn't have quit when I was 15, idk what the fuck I was thinking. It's really getting old how I cant do anything right and the one thing that used to bring catharsus now stresses me out existentially.

>>4839629
How old are you anon? And what is your goal with art- like what would be "making it" for you

>>4839645
While I would like to eventually have the ability to sell my art like my dad does, "making it" to me just means having something that makes me happy. Just being "good" at it, I guess, or at least somewhat proficient.

Honestly, making it to me is just becoming an artist. People try to pander and junk by telling me I already am by virtue of trying, but I don't buy it. Being an artist takes effort, passion, and dedication. My brand of the first doesn't matter, the second is dwindling, and the last one I've obviously fucked up by taking ~10 year break.

I'm 25. I understand it's young and, admittedly, it is. Humans live well into their eighties, after all. But if I see no improvement and I'm still at a loss after a few years, it stops being an issue of length of time and more if I just ruined the foundation completely.

Maybe I'm being dramatic, but I'm just so depressed and I have nobody I can confide in about this. It's just been festering for ages.

>>4839667
Put on some music, get a good drink, and go draw for an hour. Come back and tell us how you feel.

If you need a prompt, draw this: A sad gorilla in a small zoo.

>>4839671
I'll try, anon. The first thing that I thought of was sadpanda in a cage, so I might try that kind of thing.

Thanks for the suggestion, anon. It means more than you might think.

>>4839667
I can relate more than you'd think man. Having depression is bad enough on its own, but there is a very specific kind of awful frustration that comes with wanting to be a good artist too I think. You should take the other anon's suggestion, but I would also suggest watching this great video by mangamaterials. It touches on exactly the sort of feelings you're having.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs6Uf-pQ_58

I can't bring myself to draw coom for money, please help me convince myself to do it

Grrrrrrraaaaaaahhhhhh, I absolutely won’t give in, I absolutely won’t, I’m gonna coom real quick, go to bed, then tomorrow I’ll get back up and try even HARDER, I won’t let the idiots of this world leave me in the dust and laugh at me afterwards, I’m gonna claw my way to the top and show the world just what I’m MADE OF.

>>4839724
think of all the shiny things you can buy with the coom money

>>4839667
sack up you queen. nothing worth doing in life is ever instant, and its never over. you just get one degree better than you were yesterday, or a thousandth of a degree. just keep trying because that is better than decline and oblivion. if you have the ability to criticize yourself you will always find a flaw, and you can always make the conscious decision to do better next time. if you know what you're doing wrong you can correct it. people that get stuck into making the same mistakes are incapable of examining why they are mistakes. put on your big britches and be your own worst enemy, the suffering you inflict on yourself will pay off in the future if you don't cower from the truth.

>>4839733
Yeah but it feels wrong, I need moral reassurance

>>4839787
Why does it bother you? There are much more morally wrong ways to make money besides drawing furry diaper fetish commissions

>>4839787
you are helping your fellow man anon. we are all floating on a rock hurtling through space at speeds that you cannot comprehend. drawing some contours on a piece of paper and uploading it for dosh is nothing but a speck on the speck of a rock hurtling through infinite space.
also merry Christmas and Jesus loves you

Learning CorelDraw on a PC after switching over from Illustrator / Mac setup. Jesus titty-fucking Christ, it's like I have to re-learn everything from how to draw line nodes, were the damn tool I need is located at, to keyboard shortcuts.

Oh, I'll get it eventually...but nothing frustrates me more than knowing WHAT I want to draw but unable to find the HOW I make that happen.
Anyhow, my little bitch for the week.
Perservere friends.

I don't even want to make it or do art for a living. By next year, I'll have graduated from college and moved on with my life.

I literally just want to be able to draw my OCs and make a story with them. I don't care about fame, fortune, or twitter clout. Twitter is more toxic than /ic/ and that's saying a lot. I just like seeing my ideas come to life. I have all the creativity and none of the skill to make it real. At least not yet

>>4839845
take the sunibee pill anon

>>4839724
>>4839787
You have to think about whether it's even worth it in the long run.
Sure, coombux can be a lot if you go sociopathic mode and start spam-- marketing your shit day and night everywhere in the hopes that some kid who doesn't know any better starts spreading your work to their peers.
Coomers are also fickle beings. The moment you don't upload when you were supposed to, they're gone. Most of them are gonna jerk off real quick and fuck off.
You have to constantly keep them fed and entertained. It's more like babysitting a bunch of autistic retards over the internet with the occasional drawing but you have to also paywall your shit pretty because they're addicts and free shit is better than paying for it, if you think about it.
Also be aware that even underage kids will see your work and follow you and you can't do anything about it.
High morality and coom doesn't do together.
Get a regular job, if you want money that bad.

>>4839848
Literally who is that?

>>4838215
She just got dumped by her boyfriend and broke down crying in a phone booth. It's pretty sad in context

I'm tired of this tiny 10 inch intuos but big tablets with screens are ungodly expensive and I'm a poorfag.

Should I just spend 100 or so bucks on a bigger tablet without a display

>>4838215
She's trying to hug herself and grab onto something to squeeze harder.

>>4837310
I can't tell if my client is intentionally or unintentionally giving me backhanded compliments every step of the way.
Maybe I'm sensitive, but I post here, so I can usually tell the difference between vitriol and constructive criticism.

I FUCKING HATE IT. I dont want to grind but I want to make it. PLS tell me I can keep making pieces and make it eventually. Th-thats how you make it right? By not stopping?

>>4840015
You have to draw a ton but you have to treat drawing like math. You gotta to understand algebra before calculus, and calculus before statistics. Understanding means doing problems over and over again until you can solve the question without looking at the book.

Keep making pieces but look back on earlier work and make sure you're actually improving. If you begin to stagnate but the fundamentals are solid, try something new.

I have chronic fatigue and after drawing for two hours I'm in pain and need a nap. I wish I could just grind nonstop. I want to get better but I'm always so fucking tired.

>>4840039
Take a nap until you are bored of sleeping

Also you could be depressed

>Art school
I know I'd thrive in an art school, but I can't afford the education at my age.

I'm teaching myself through video courses, but I'm leisurely going through them. Barely any progress is made through self teaching and it's frustrating.

>No community
My friend, who is an art student, avoids me when I ask him for advice, but will immediately rip into my work if I ask for a critique. I have a feeling he doesn't want me to surpass him? I can control my lines much better than he can, and my figures have gesture while his are stiff and awkward. Every time I post my progress, he will post a completed illustration on the same day I do. It's kind of weird

>>4840039
Could be vitamin deficiency. Take some multivitamins everyday and be sure to take a 30 minute walk when you can each day to build up your stamina.

>>4839925
Might be worth it, but you’ll only know once you’ve tried. I suggest trying out a used one first and if you like it, use it until it breaks and buy a brand new one.

>>4840039
I had this, seemed to be a combination of deficiencies and prediabetes, it started to disappear the moment I removed sugar, most glycemic carbs and started intermittent fasting to burn out visceral fat, a whole bucket of lard is gone from my organs now, a few more from all over the body.

>>4840262
I know someone like that. Drop him lol. He'll probably stalk you a bit but yeah.

>>4840052
I have treatment resistant depression so I guess that doesn't help. It's a combination of issues really

>>4840293
Yeah I'm trying to take vitamins regularly to keep my health up as much as possible. I take short walks and try to keep my stamina decent but I should maybe try for a bit longer. I'm just scared if I go too far i might get sick

>>4840299
I thought this might be the case but I'm not prediabetic and somehow I'm mostly healthy. I already do intermittent fasting and have for a long time.

Just wish i werent always exhausted

My fucking coffee machine won’t use all the water in the tank and I have to keep pushing it on and off for it to deplete. Do I need to buy a new unit?

>enjoy drawing in high school
>friend picks up art
>he sucks
>laugh in his face
>he gets discouraged and stops drawing
>also stops complimenting my work
>years later
>stopped drawing myself because without his encouragement and compliments, i felt lost
>look him up again
>he picked up drawing again at the start of the pandemic just for something to do
>went from drawing absolute garbage to gestures better than mine ever were
>his actual art is still not amazing, but it's clear that it's from discomfort and hesitation rather than a lack of knowledge of anatomy/perspective
>e-stalk his art twitter for a bit
>consider reaching out
>find tweet
>"A long time ago someone laughed in my face and I stopped drawing. I decided to pick it up again and every time I find myself getting discouraged, I imagine his stupid face and it makes me mad enough to keep going."
>feel like shit now because it's obvious that he's going to surpass me in not years, but months

>Start drawing
>It's the best thing I could possibly do and all those logotherapy lessons really worked
>Finish a drawing and post it/stop drawing for a bit
>I dont wanna draw again in my life I already did the work and you already got your cute vchuba go away

why is this the way that it is

>>4840426
spite is the best gmi fuel anon, you've given him an incredible gift

>>4840454
i don't give a fuck about him. i'm mad that i drew for literally years and he's already better than me after... what, pandemic started march-ish for north america, sooo

seven months

seven fucking months.

i'm gonna fucking kill myself i swear.

>>4840457
You sound like a cunt anon. Maybe if you fix your attitude you can catch up to him

>>4840479
Anon! We don't use that kind of language here, apologize to your classmate.

>>4840457
And don’t kill yourself.

>>4837310

I'm at peace with my suck. I can just ride it out until my parents are dead and I can off myself.

>>4840483
are you fucking roleplaying

Nothing I do is quite enough with art to go where I want to go, I feel that I am losing the good faith of others or am in danger of such I'm hoping to keep pushing through and through but I've never succeeded in my life, this matters to me so much to succeed now, I don't want to lose their faith I really dont. I keep finding myself in spots of negativity and mental imbalance in tears sometines I keep pushing it back since I know it's no good I really want to change it really hurts to be this way everyday and I know people are getting sick of me when I complain about it, I can't talk about it at all. I really want to collapse in someone's arms and draw the best I can

>>4840454
> spite is the best gmi fuel anon, you've given him an incredible gift
This is what I keep citing as evidence of my gmi, but no one ever believes me. I’ll show them though

>>4840426
Why did you laugh at him for sucking? You probably were never that great at drawing in the first place, good artists don’t crab on others work.

>>4840539

It's okay anon. Remember to take it easy.

I wasted my life. Everyone thought and was pushing me to be a great artist ever since I was a child. When I was a teenager I had a family, friends, and a girlfriend that supported me. Around the time I became an adult I stopped working on my art. I hated everything I made, and everything I used to make was objectively, without a doubt, shit. Not just technically but the subject matter was repulsive also. I became depressed from this and stopped pursuing art for most of my 20's. No longer have friends, no girlfriend, and my family is disappointed because I never did anything with art. I'm 30 now and they'll be dead soon so it's too late to try to make them proud. I fucked my life up and have to live with it for the rest of my life

>>4840588
Man, that sounds really devastating. But thankfully you're not that far off from the majority of people. Most folks just get a job they hate, a marriage that withers, kids that rebel, and lose their health and happiness along the way. Dreams never get fulfilled and they get left feeling stuck all the same.

It's not too late to try to make it. Justin Goby Fields, in a schoolism interview, said he was a pizza delivery boy for like 10 years until his 30's before he started grinding hard and made it. You could still find friends and a girl that might love you. Your parents will probably live for the next 10 years and see you turn your life around. Keep hope and don't give up.

>>4840571
Thank you

>>4840426
I hope you'll stay in /beg/ for the rest of your artistic life.

I’m stuck in a hole of mediocrity. My poses are boring and stiff, my line quality is not clean enough, painting is a pain in the ass, and I have little patience to work on a piece for more than 3-5 hours. People like my art, but I don’t think anyone thinks that it’s actually impressive.

>>4840426
post his twitter.

>>4837616
>>4837619
Requester here
Thanks!

>>4838323
Full Angewomon pic, please?

>>4840426
HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA OH MY GOD LOOK AT THIS FUCKING LOSER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>4840776
here you go anon

>>4837310
OHHHHHHHHH BEATRICEEEE HOW I WISH TO DRAW YOUR SMILE ONCE AGAIN

Aaaaaand got shadowbanned on Twitter again
really sucks being under 1k followers
all I did was post 2 drawings with 2 hashtags each (one nsfw)

>>4840803
Thanks!

>>4841076
Link to the pics?

>>4841116
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8M-7LXYAIwfF0?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAqiy0WsAA0ihS?format=jpg&name=medium

short story
>had some nsfw drawings on there
>noticed that im shadowbanned
>tried to find solutions
>essentially i found "just have more followers"
>2days ago deleted many pics some sfw, some nsfw
>unshadowbanned
>but... i still have 2 nsfw pics that i didnt remove
>yesterday and today post these 2
>shadowbanned again

>>4841130
Well, what can I say. Twitter is a shitshow all around.
I wish we could go back to the forum days.

>>4841076
Why does that happen?

>new roomie leaves his door open ALL THE FUCKING TIME

this bothers me so much and i don't even know why.
like oh okay now the whole house is your room? ok motherfucker.

I’m so sad today. Life is pain.

>>4841483
Haha

>>4841435
Ahh sorry bro im making some eggs xD

>>4841483
why?

>>4841130

You probably shouldn't use any hashtags until you get 1000 followers. Just use keywords and people will find you.

Once you reach 1k followers and your account is at least a year old twitter will treat you like royalty.

No one really gives feedback on /beg/ unless you’re an absolute beg in which case you’re told to read the sticky smdh

>>4837310
Realistically, how fucked would someone be if it came to light that they browsed 4chan and said shit like nigger and about hating trannies? Especially with the current political climate

>>4841517
You ignore the less than 1% and keep posting.

>>4841492
Both parents are suffering from terminal diseases and are deteriorating rapidly.

>>4841617
I'm sorry to hear than anon that's pretty fucked. stay strong.

getting frustrated with myself by constantly comparing myself with pros that have been drawing their entire lives. I’ve started drawing just this year and people tell me I’m gmi all the time with my gains but i still hate myself for never starting earlier. Im gonna be a pro one day folks. everyday i get closer.

>>4838462
Here you go anon, it's not great and I got burnt out on it midway but I did my best. I wish you luck in your zora porn pursuits.

>>4841628
Thanks.

>>4841637
Thank you so much anon!

Do you have any social media so I can follow

All my life since the 3rd grade, I’ve been told that I have a talent on art and storytelling. People keep saying I should have a comic or get work in the animation industry (which has been my endgoal). But I always doubt myself because I don’t have the money to afford a fucking tablet, all I have is a single phone that I draw all day on. I worry that I’m ngmi

>>4837369
But anon, boys can't get pregnant

>>4837369
lmfao get owned retard

>>4837705
this is how I see other people's babies.
my nephews are hella cute.

>>4839189
kinda based ngl

>>4839189
my man

Reading the webtoon "True Beauty" has been making me feel so down about my looks and lack of social life. Fuck, how do I become a pretty man?

Reminder that artistic ability is a talent that you’re born with. If you’re a normal person, you might aswell hang yourself. It’ll save you the pain of the reality that you’ll never be able to draw.

>>4841822
I am flattered, and sort of... I have an old hentai-foundry I abandoned 2 years ago that I plan to use again eventually, under the name SootDumpling. But there's only 3 drawings and I'm not certain when I'll post again. I've barely drawn the past couple years.

had the whole fucking day off today and wasted it shitposting

if I was going to waste time I might as well just watch some movies

How do I stop drawing slanted/crooked? I have to keep flipping my page or my drawings come out super angled even though it looks right before i flip.


Apparently this is a common thing among artists but nobody can tell me WHY it happens or HOW to correct it. Fuck. I feel like all my lines are off.

>>4841932
Only smooth brained re-re's that don't understand Fun with Pencil believe this

>>4841862
>draw all day despite not having much
this is gmi

got fed up with everything, sucking the life out of me.

deleted discord, socials, gave away my gaming shit, pc and changed my number, butchered my phone to only have the most basic fucking shit.

getting off this shit too after I finish downloading all these resources, and going to block nearly fucking everything on my internet where the only thing I can watch is nips drawing on YouTube.


I will not allow anything to get in my way anymore

>>4838050
bupropion xl 150mg did the trick for me, going to up the dosage soon.

I gave it some thought on art communities and why we join them. Back in the day of forums the Internet was slow and the information was dry. Concept art forums was the king and attracted aspiring artists everywhere, but why? Because it was the place to see rising artists get into the industry. You were in the same room breathing the same air as the pros. And the sketchbooks off promising individuals made others make their own sketchbooks.

Here is the issue—it wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows back then. Most of the users there weren’t on the same level field as the users who had their parents wallet to be in an art school. So you weren’t going to make progress as fast as they were. It was also turning into a circlejerk among the industry pros. Before conceptart killed itself, they shilled massive black training videos and even a level up style training subscription that didn’t work out.

Now the Internet present day is faster, more information is out there and communication with pros aren’t as closely tied as it once was. Everyone can now form their own bubbles and instead of working together it’s more about shilling your own brand. The most important thing however is that the opportunity to get good is no longer restricted to the privileged gatekeepers.

But joining small communities on ic is going backwards. You’re not posting alongside industry pros, you’re not even showing progression and working with each other like back in the day of forums. It’s just crab this, Ngmi that. It’s working backwards because the video general is literally the missing component that we unfortunately did not have 15 years ago. Art communities are counterproductive if you’re not shilling yourself.

I'm insane according to the Far Cry 3 deifinition

>>4843058
Like you don’t have people like Elwell and crew checking in on you giving you proper advice. Anyone who reaches a semblance of skill leaves this place. Nobody sticks around to help the smaller guy. That sense of community died by 2010. Here I am thinking /ic/ could be greater. I’m a boomer stuck in my ways. Stuck in the past. But why wait for some fairy to come along and help me. I’m mentally stunted and stuck in time.

Alright, I’m gonna do what >>4842514 said. No /ic/ for me until I build up a personal streak of 180 days.

>Im a beg so I made a group of me and my also beg friends to support each other in our art journeys
>starts grinding fundies and starts to see gains too
>realize my friends arent as serious as me and that I cant relate to anyone
>my motivation disappeared and stopped grinding
>one of my friends starts grinding too
>he's GMI unlike me
>he can surpass me within months
>feel jealous but its ok, art isnt my planned career anyway
>I give him critiques and support
>I stopped drawing for a month or two
>see him make good art
>I get motivated to draw again
>I start drawing again but doesnt study fundies
>gets stuck with shitty animu drawings while he's grinding fundies
>so I start studying again
>I give him artbooks, videos, courses
>I give my full support
>he suddenly starts getting preachy about art
>tells me copying is bad, bridgeman is bad, forces me to watch vids, forces me to do shit, becomes a proko bitch, tells me studying manga artists is wrong, etc
>he starts re-inventing the wheel
>He judges my workflow even though I dont judge his because everyone has their own workflow that works for them
>tells him I just draw for fun and wanna draw comics to pass the time
>he's still acting like some sort of elitist
>I get pissed off
>Stopped giving him critiques and started to only give him complimenting
>he makes a shit drawing
>"Looks great bro"
>stopped interacting with the group for awhile and started to get serious because he makes me s e e t h e
>been doing my own stuff and found a workflow that "clicked"
>check on the group, see that the others are also just kissing his ass with compliments
>no one gives critique anymore ever since I left
>Tells me he's been grinding fundies for 5 hours everyday for almost two months now
>"Nice, can i see your latest artwork?"
>he shows me absolute fucking dogshit
>my friend who never even studied fundies is better than him
>...
>"Nice one bro, you're gonna make it. You're even better than me now."

I hope you stay beg :)

>>4837310
How the fuck do you 1 minute gesture drawings? Are they supposed to just be literal stick figures? Is there any trick or technique anyone that's good at these that they can offer?

>>4843127
You sound like an absolute fucking bitch. Fuck you for making me read this forced drama garbage.

>been using same 32 oz plastic container to hold paint water since like 2013
>dog sitting for cousin, move painting equipment there for a week
>forgot container when I moved back home
>it got recycled
rip in peace plastic bro.

I'm goin back to college next Monday. The dream is over bros.

>>4839787
Why do you think it's wrong? Do you have strong religious values and just see sex in general as something to be ashamed of or in that line of thinking? Or personal issues against masturbation or maybe specific fetishes or content?

We need to know more about your qualms before offering any kind of helpful advice on whether or not it's something you should or shouldn't do. Some people see absolutely nothing wrong with it so of course they'll see you as crazy and just giving up free money. Obviously there are different life perspectives here, so we need to help meet in a middle ground to understand better.

shit thread

>>4841517
you'd lose your job if you're staff somewhere. even mildly conservative opinions can get you blacklisted. crowdfunding isn't much of a buffer either these days because payment processors enforce social policy. but unless you were a tripfag, I don't see how anyone can pin anything on you. shit is fucked, hide your powerlevel.

>>4841617
fuck sorry dude.

>>4843127
you are a crippling jealous asshole with an ego that needs to be beat down. fuck you. you thought youre the best and gave advice and critique and as soon as someone else got better than you and did the same.. you couldnt bare it. you are a true, to the bone, ngmi. stay seething faggot

>>4841916
All a man has to do to look decent and presentable is to groom, brush his teeth, maintain a great posture, and have a decent haircut. Also, don’t have a beer belly. Also, wear collared shirts and if you have a beard trim it, don’t allow yourself to turn into a human mop.

>>4840426
Start drawing again so you both will be the ultimate rivals like in my favorite animes

>>4841862
Fuck, this hit me right in the feels. Try and save up for a used tablet. Doesn’t even have to be a screen tablet, just something that lets you stretch your art legs more.

>>4843130
"gesture" and "flow"
unfortunately there's no one way to do these things. it sounds like some stupid zen bullshit but you really do just have to feel it
don't focus on getting the outline of the figure, just focus on getting the energy of their pose and their movements. this means you should be able to discern the pose in some way, without actually just copying it down. you might make a few quick curved lines to represent a bent leg, for example, and illustrate a powerfully arching spine with an extreme v, and it's not gonna look exactly like you photocopied a person and shouldn't, but it should be easily recognizable as representing a person in a particular pose or movement. the one minute time limit is to force you to work on looking at a photo and abstract-ifying parts into something quick, maybe even messy, but comprehensible.

i'm still pretty /beg/ myself so other people feel free to correct me/call me a tard/etc but that has been my takeaway

>>4841517
100% fucked. The world outside of 4chan and small niche communities is different anon. I'm giving you advice even though I'm someone that thinks you should learn to be not racist and an asshole in general--hide your powerlevel. In real life you are an asshole and aren't protected by anonymity, unless you care that much about your right to be an asshole to others that you're okay with giving up jobs and connections.

i think my brain is broken and i can't make friends.
i barely ever even want to talk to people anymore or do anything besides drawing. i'm making good gains but it all just feels kind of pointless. like there's nothing to really work towards. doing that manga competition was the most it made sense to do anything in a long time and i really enjoyed that feeling but working in comics as a job? that seems fucking hellish. animation kind of feels the same way. art is the only thing i want to do but at the same time it feels like such a worthless way to live.
>>4841862
a used 450 mte is like 50 bucks dude.
just keep drawing & studying. anything you learn on paper or on your phone will transfer over to digital. i've probably learned more just drawing & animating on my ds than i have in photoshop

>>4843235
take your moral high ground and shove it up your ass. the language policing happening today has nothing to do with what the majority population feels is true or right. men aren't women, your social theory on race and sex is conspiracy theory, you are the irl asshole making people fear for their livelihoods.

>>4843235
u mad ure not white bro?

>>4843285
ok sperg lol

>>4843285
>someone, please, think of all the poor assholes worried for their jobs ;_;
lmao

>>4843285
I bet you're someone that thinks getting banned in chat for shouting nigger is a grave injustice lmao.

Nobody cries for the class bully for getting suspended, you have the freedom to say what you want, but you aren't free from other people saying they don't like it and consequences of being a dick.

Cry more.

>>4843292
In my language saying nigger is more acceptable than saying black man.

>>4843288
>>4843291
>>4843292
none of you will ever pass. thinking people disagreeing with you is bullying is the hight of your delusions. even feminists from the 70's hate you.

>>4843296
>>4843294
cope

>>4843296
>anyone that defends x people means they're that same person

I never got this. Do some people genuinely have no concept of defending someone else just on the merit of it being the right thing to do and not because you have a personal stake in it?

Anyway continue to seethe and let trannies live rent free in your heads and pretend that you're the victims here for not being allowed to shit talk others for their personal choices or race or sex. I'm sure the day of the rope is coming any day now, and you'll finally get to gas the kikes that are the actual cause of your misfortunes instead of your own beta attitude towards life.

>>4843296
Continue seething with your buddies in /pol/ that have figured out the global jewish conspiracy.

>>4843296
ahahaha enjoy fucking your life up over a load of shit that'd never have personally affected you otherwise then.

So a tranny-obsessed /pol/ack and a /pol/tard-hating tranny walk into a loli thread...

>>4843294
Which language? Also you don't live in a bubble. Surely you're aware of how nigger was used as a slur describing black people all throughout the colonial era and for most of the 1900s in America, right? So clearly the word has deep roots in racism at this point for a large majority of people. The same reason that displaying a swastika was turned into a nazi logo by the Germans in the 1940s even though it originally was a symbol for peace in Buddhism. It sucks that it was co-opted but symbols and meanings change. It's autistic to think that just because it doesn't offend you personally, that others shouldn't be offended by it either.

>>4837323
Kill yourself you fucking Redditor.

>>4843309
Sticks and stones, you weak willed bitch.
Now fuck off to some other site.

I fucked a passed out girl at a Halloween party once because she was in an Azula costume

>>4843391
Based?

>>4843391
You mean you raped someone? Do you feel no guilt?

>>4843408
Definitely based rapist anon. Though it’s not rape because all women are objects and whores

>>4843337
??? It's nothing about being weak willed, it's understanding that words can lead to action that results in physical violence against others if an ideology goes too far. Saying nigger and racial slurs doesn't do anything in the moment, but convince enough people that it's fine and that black people or other people are lesser, and you end up with some finding it okay to cause harm without reason just due to the ideology of "well it's fine, they're not really human anyway."

It's basic understanding of what you say has a ripple effect. This is why racism is shut down, because otherwise you fucking end up with spergs actually going out and fucking people up for no reason.

You wouldn't argue against self defense I assume?

>>4843309
>muh words have power, muh words are offensive. Grow a thicker skin or go back to r*ddit.

>>4843414
No. Should I?

>>4843419
yes, they do. See the post above yours. Why do you disagree?

>>4843414
Better think twice before passing out at the party dressed into anime costume

>>4843180
Haha Haha Haha. This amuses me.

>>4843428
based retard blaming the victim

Even if she was completely naked and passed out in a room full of men, how is it anyone but the rapist's fault for going unga-bunga?

>>4843426
No they don’t. Words only have as much power over you as you give them. What do you care if some rando on the street called you a nigger? Do you choose to validate that insult by getting uppity over it, or do you just shrug it off and go about the rest of your day because you know it is ultimately you who gives it meaning and power.

>>4843432
Why would she be naked in a room full of men unless she was looking to get fucked?

>>4843432
>Even if she was completely naked and passed out in a room full of men, how is it anyone but the rapist's fault for going unga-bunga?
Oh? But if I walk out into niggerville in the middle of the night, drunk and wake up the next morning with my wallet missing, would you not say that’s my fault? The truth is, outside of them being physically overpowered by someone stronger without warning, everyone (including women) are responsible for their own safety. Based anon for taking advantage of a free lay

>>4843440
I legitimately hope you die choking on your own vomit

I feel like anyone screeching at society and calling conspiracy theories for the norm of calling out racism and sexism is just the end result of what happens when a rabid animal is backed into a corner instead of feeling comfortable going around and biting others with no consequence. I know it's probably a waste of time trying to convince them that they're in the wrong, because either way they're in the minority and can't help but lash out in anger that they can't just say and do anything they want and expect no repercussions. You're supposed to learn this as children. The tough guy attitude of "get tougher skin bitch", works until the vast majority get tired of their shit. The end result is the irony of the bully crying about unfairness instead of taking their own advice of getting tougher skin. Because it's not about that, it's about wanting the ability to say and do whatever you want to someone else, and when they can't do that, they cry harder than the people they call snowflakes.

It's the biggest projection in society, and it's hilarious.

>>4843438
Do you not understand what I said before about how if racist terms and thoughts become commonplace and accepted, you end up on the slippery slope where you have groups like the KKK escalating violence instead of just words because they feel justified and comfortable in a world where it's fine to say and think like that about others?

Or do you think that's fine?

>>4843456
Based speech anon

>>4843440
no, it's not your fault. It's the fault of the nigger that acted like a fucking nigger and took your wallet. You should have been smarter about your surroundings, but it would be dumb as fuck to put the blame on the crime on you in any way shape or form.

>>4843456
Nigger whore

>>4843466
That's right get it out, it is the vent thread after all.

>>4843456
>feel
>sexism
>racism
>in the wrong
>unfair
>minority
Literally how old are you? Your word choices and reasoning make you sound like a child or a hysterical woman. Nobody gives a rat’s ass about your moralizing. Just let people be people free to fail or succeed according to their own will.

>>4843460
>blah blah blah muh slippery slope fallacy
You are arguing from the point of view of “what ifs” and have literally no proof positive that these things will inevitably happen.

>>4843472
That's exactly my point anon. But the people that get pissed off about repercussions and the end result of failing, for acting against the current societal norms seem to not agree with this.

>>4843478
Yes, and you’re further along for knowing better. Focus on yourself and becoming an overall more complete individual since that’s the most that any of us can do.

>>4843477
based retard essentially saying racism doesn't exist and doesn't actually have any effect on the targets of it.

Continue being mad at society not accepting your autism for wanting the freedom to call people niggers and trannies, but at the same time expecting to be welcomed with open arms.

>>4843487
I agree. No idea why I got wrapped up in this, it's dumb and a waste of time on here of all places. I do generally believe that it's important to be what you preach to actually make the world the way you want it to be, so it may sound faggy but calling out injustice just so others know that not everyone thinks like them and to not feel too comfortable is part of how I live my life.

We all have our own ideologies about the world, and all anyone can do is live to try and shape it to whatever we think is right.

>try to paint
>use lineart as guide
>ok it should be fine now
>remove lineart layer
>it all looks like a blob of colors
:(

>>4843498
Dumbass

>>4843511
Probably need to focus more on rendering. Also without lineart, you need to define the figure with values, otherwise everything will just look flat.

I just want to draw hot pics of my husbando because I want to increase his fanbase since hes one of the most hated characters, but in a very Italian painter-esque style like pic related. However when I get good enough to make art like this no one will even care about the series anymore, IK its very trivial but I am sad about it :(

>>4843525
Forgot pic

>>4843525
There's no problem, because he's your husbando and that's all that matters.
Also, good fanart doesn't really mean that people would like him more if he's a disliked character, sorry to disappoint.

Who is your husbando?

>>4843535
It's a Game of Thrones character, but that's all I can reveal.

>>4843542
Who joffrey, ramsey?

>>4843552
Nope.

>>4843528
>that pec
Is he okay?

>>4843511
paint on top of the line layer

i do not like being autistic :(

My finances are kinda tight right now, but I just want to buy all the new, shiny art supplies I see.
Reason tells me to wait and use the highest quality supplies so my pieces will last longer, but student in me just wants to use whatever, whenever so I can move on to better things.

You know what- that gives me an idea: I'm gonna to do a massive blitz with all of my crappiest art supplies, like shills do on Youtube. That way I feel justified for giving in to my shoppers impulse, later. 5,000 small trad pictures with $10 art supplies coming right up.

It bothers me how much this place affects my every day life. But I still keep coming back in hopes of learning and teaching others. I just wish we were more mature and less hateful here. I get it, its 4chan, but still... I wish we weren't acting like it's still 2008.

>>4843659
Go to twitter

>>4843659

This place is unironically worse off than 2008 in every conceivable way, anon.. And 2008 was demonstrably shittier than 2004 when 4chan was made.
Nothing gold can stay.
Personally, I'm gonna cut ties with this place in a month or two when I'm done spamming the trad and art dump threads.
Teaching and learning can only happen when people are already in the correct headspace for that kinda thing. /ic/ was never really that place.

>>4843659
I know how you feel- ironically 4chan wasn't as bad in 2008 before /pol/ and /r9k/ became what they are

>>4843659
Same, even though this place is a shithole filled with the most autistic bunch, I can’t stop browsing here. I’m addicted and it’s even affecting my art gains. All the time I spent browsing here, I could have spent it drawing or practicing. Typing all of this doesn’t help either.

>>4843670
I'm on there as well.

>>4843675
>>4843682
Yeah, I agree. I guess I'm thinking of 2008 /b/.

>>4843456
What the fuck does this have to do with art? Kill yourself you flighty bitch.

>>4843690
>I'm on there as well
Then fuck off and stay there.

>>4843659
>I just wish we were more mature and less hateful here
I just wish faggots would stop being insecure and miserable and throwing autistic fits every time they read a bad word or you happen to write more than one sentence in a post.
>he wrote more than one sentence; cringe schizo seethe
>he wrote one word: based based based

>I get it, its 4chan, but still... I wish we weren't acting like it's still 2008
It's the only platform that allows you to call someone out on their faggotry without having to fear getting cancelled
This board is either destined to become a hugbox or a crab bucket as long as the anons are autistic faggots who focus too much on the wrongs things to feel better about themselves and don't put being reasonable above all else.

I'm about to draw a le funny meme and I swear if it will get more likes than my 8 hour drawings I'll just fucking kill myself.

>>4837310
I don’t know how to enjoy making art anymore.

>>4843715
Anon, if only you knew how bad things really are.

>>4843703
I agree with you. There's a fine line between being a crab and legitimately calling someone out without fluff and bs while also keeping shit constructive.

I guess the non-constructive nature puts me off. I'm all for no filter call outs if they're legitimate and constructive. In fact, that's what drew me to ic in the first place.

>>4843746
>I guess the non-constructive nature puts me off. I'm all for no filter call outs if they're legitimate and constructive. In fact, that's what drew me to ic in the first place.
Yeah, same. I came here to grow as an artist by analyzing and trying to lend my eyes to others while trying to get better myself and not risk an aneurysm every time i interact with an anon.
The main problem with this board are the anons who can't keep their ego in check.
Too many narcissists and legit autistic people.
Most just dish out "critique" and "advice" so they can congratulate themselves on being "smart" yet they're biased, dishonest and narrow minded and they throw a fit whenever you don't suck their dicks for talking to you because you didn't validate their delusions.
I'm really hoping to leave this shithole.

I fucking hate backgrounds but when I see it done well I'm always so impressed. I just watch to be able to draw furniture and buildings and scenery but I can't! i need help!!
I completely fucking hate drawing still life

>Order drawing book
>Get Amazon package
>"Tear at Perforation to open"
>Too weak
Where are my fucking scissors

>>4843829
get your boyfriend to open it for you

i want a boyfriend

>>4843848
If you’re not pic related or hotter, then you don’t deserve one

>>4843851
then why do other people that arent pic related or hotter have one

>>4843855
Because we will fuck anything, but love is reserved for cuties like that, and chances are, they’ll ditch an uggo for a cutie first chance we get

>>4843861
*we’ll, goddamn

>>4843861
i can cook well does that help

>>4843855
“Attractive people” tend to have an ungodly shitty personality or the “bitches be crazy” kind.

>>4843868
I’m not gonna lie to you, no guy TRULY wants to be seen with an ugly girl, it’s a hit to his ego, but if you try hard enough you can probably find someone willing to settle. Altough you could just learn to maximize makeup, that takes you up like 3 or 4 points if used right

>>4843872
Uggo alert

>>4843872
while its true i've met some duechers that were hot, the most annoying and unbearable people i've had the misfortune of knowing, also just so happened to be really not good to look at as well.

>>4843881
>the most annoying and unbearable people i've had the misfortune of knowing, also just so happened to be really not good to look at as well.
You sure that wasn’t internal bias against their looks that made you judge that way? And perhaps a consistent string of negative judgements starting from childhood as a result of their appearance would add up and negatively affect their inner state over time, creating a vicious cycle?

>>4839925
im poor as fuck too, maybe we should just buy Huions

>>4843881
Well it can go both ways, anon. Non-attractive people just have it harder, since there more reasons why they can’t find a relationship than attractive ones. Being crazy or a terrible person are usually the main reasons why attractive ones can’t find a gf or bf.

>>4843872
crazy bussy is the best kind anon

>>4843888
no because I also have friends that are really sweet people that are butt fuckin ugly but I still love them with all my heart

>>4843909
Better man than me, I’m much too shallow for that. I try to befriend the “cool” kids since they can be useful, although I stay on good terms with everyone since it benefits me.

>>4843917
that will really lose its meaning as you become an adult.
just try to surround yourself with people that won't hurt you or add stress to your life. make sure you're finding people you can depend on that are honest. everything else - looks, popularity, wealth, social media clout - is a waste.
if you're looking for a career it is important to try and get connected with people in your field but that's kind of a different thing all together

just accidentally overwrote a file lads
hurts like a motherfucker but i'm gonna put my head down and redraw the whole thing again

i don't want to draw for fun anymore. i know it's bullshit when people say they have fun doing exercises but that's the case for me now. i can't have fun knowing the art i draw in my free time looks like shit. but if i do exercises, it won't look like shit. but if i don't apply those exercises, then it is a fruitless effort.

why does art have to be like this bros?

>>4843975
It was all practice for this next one you're about to draw anyway. You got this.

I can't create anything that's mine, like OCs and concepts and shit that people do. Everytime I try it ends up being really cringe it makes me want to piss shit and vomit and I delete it instantly just as I start

>>4844097
It's because you've been conditioned by miserable crabs to think of ocs as cringe.

>>4844097
it's not cringe, it's just you hate fun.

Posting now since it won’t bump up anymore and I don’t want people recognizing me:
I have this intense desire to see women in pain, they’re just so cute when they’re scared and squirming around, or even better, if they’re bitchy cunts who get the punishment they deserve. My favorite thing to do in gta is go on rampages on prostitures and strippers, I’ve gotten hard ones from that

>>4844163

>>4844163
have you tortured animals as a kid?

>>4843848
post armpits

>>4844191
No I don’t think so. I mean, I cut a lizards tail off but that was by accident, and I’m pretty sure they grow back anyway. I do remember this one time, I got this plastic baseball bat, and there were a lot of flies around, and I killed a bunch of them for fun, like I just timed it while they were flying around and swing really hard, then they would like dizzily fall to the ground, not sure how many actually died. I pricked a spider with a needle and watched it bleed out, and I think I drowned a fair number of bugs. But they were just bugs, I don’t think I ever hurt mammals, although I remember I stole an egg from a birds nest (technically my cousin did it and gave it to me) and I wanted to keep it as a pet, but it ended up cracking and dying. I did shoot a stray dog with a toy pellet gun, but that was it I think. Shit, you actually got me remembering a bunch of stuff I’d forgotten. I don’t think I’m a bad person though, I’ve never really “hurt” anyone I don’t think, physically or psychologically, unless you count my family but they’re always fucking me over and we’d all be better off if they minded their business and let me live my damn life without forcing so much shit on me.

>>4839667
1/3
I got interested in drawing around my teenage years, overall never managed to keep up practice for more than a few days, then take months long breaks with the last break lasting probably more than 2 years. I'm 26 now. The idea of being decent, comfortable with drawing just doesn't want to die, it's been hiding somewhere in the back of my head for a decade. I told myself that I'm an adult now and I'll take it seriously, but it turns out that drawing is hard (why I'm browsing vent in the first place) and studying artwork of professionals reveals how much more is there yet to learn. And as a life skill, drawing is a bad time investment. It doesn't merge at all with my existing skills. It won't pay for itself as well as eg. IT skills. I already have IT related job, knowledge of basics of programming and I'm comfortable working with it. My point is that I'm in position where learning IT related stuff yields much more potential return on time invested. For me learning drawing at profitable level (I mean good enough to receive commissions - seems to be a common criteria for being good) just isn't rational.

>>4844235
2/3
Surely, the most important thing in art is its immaterial reward, however when faced with reality of how much work it takes to put my ideas into reality it turns out these ideas are not that interesting, not original, they require lots of refining. When I start to weight these it turns out that I find nothing truly worth expressing in myself. Most, if not everything I would want to express was probably already drawn by someone, and they did it better (obviously, not the exact same thing, but probably something close enough). On a positive note, there will always be someone out there that will think that your art is great. Or you can believe such person exists. In his book, On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft, Stephen King wrote:

>Someone—I can’t remember who, for the life of me— once wrote that all novels are really letters aimed at one person. As it happens, I believe this. I think that every novelist has a single ideal reader; that at various points during the composition of a story, the writer is thinking, “I wonder what he/she will think when he/she reads this part?”

I'm mentioning this because I think the message here can be applied widely, and translates to any type of story, making something while having this ideal person in mind will probably make things easier, especially if you consider your best work inferior. But I'm digressing.

>>4844237
If I'm not mistaken it's my 2nd post on this board ever and I just happened to browse this thread in the right time to see your post, I wouldn’t be bothered to reply if I didn’t empathize. What I think (or I wish I was thinking) myself is that from my current position I don’t know whether it would be better to stop drawing completely and forget about it (though experience shows that a decade of negligence is not long enough) or accelerate it - learn to draw better, and from that position judge if I was right or not (I probably heard this advice here).

>But if I see no improvement and I'm still at a loss after a few years
If. All skills and subskills have different level rate and level cap. Whether drawing is a skill that requires luck (aka talent, natural aptitude, genetics - being born with right skillset is just luck imo) to get gud will eventually be derived by the art philosophers collective here. From my experience I believe there should be a point at which you start feeling comfortable and competent enough with most skills, drawing included, getting there is painful though. And if it turns out that drawing is one of these things that are always hard to do (example from praying: https://youtu.be/Smana2aJxkQ)) then hopefully it earns us some points in the afterlife.

Keep yourself well anon.

I've spent more time in my life looking at other people's discussions and creations of art on /ic/ and everywhere else. I think art is so cool but I don't really feel like I ever doing it myself so I barely draw, but I live through viewing others who have the passion for it. It's alright.

>>4844196
armpits

>>4844775
I've felt like this, too, for a long time because i thought i would never achieve anything, that i didn't deserve experiencing anything thus i told myself i should be happy for others and watch them.
>It's alright.
You know as well as i do that it's not.

>>4844797
too real.. fuck..

>>4844797
I guess I'm just waiting for that spark. I've tried drawing a bunch but I'd eventually burn out.

>>4844807
The "spark" won't ever happen by waiting for it.
>"I'll just start doing the thing when THE thing happens"
Anon, trust me. It won't.

>>4844809
can confirm. Not to be cheesy but it really is a leap of faith.

>>4844809
Fug.. I'm just being massive cope

>>4844811
It's alright. We all cope in one way or another but the sooner we get slapped awake, the better.
Now get out there and manifest your destiny, anon.

i know art is not an overnight process but holy shit i wish i just Got Good

it's demoralizing seeing so many people younger than me with amazing art. not because i think their art shouldn't be allowed to be good, but because it makes me realize i wasted my years when i could have been much better at this by now. i'm trying hard, doing daily studies and grinding, and i think it's going good, but fuck i just wanna not feel like i'm stumbling and i want this process to be faster and not "6 months of drawing boxes and beans and copying photos and maybe i'll be able to draw a half-decent body"

>>4845293
One day, you're going to be grateful for going through this struggle.

i just don't think i can improve

>>4844781

>current political discourse has gaslit you to the point where you unironically can't tell any more whether someone is saying crazy shit in earnest, to fit in with some imagined social norm, or to parody that belief or the group it's associated with
how do you anons deal with this?

>>4844163
seems fine, just don't idealize your fucked up fetishes and remember reality=/=fantasy.

>>4845790
>how do you deal with this?
Critical thinking. Get rid of your ego, beliefs, etcetera and only seek the absolute factual truth