/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4813102
>tfw no sculptor gf to feel my form


AAAAAAHHHHH AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4813102
bad eyes
no eyebrow
yikes

>>4813102
Not trying to crab but that doesn't seem that good. Don't know enough about sculpting to put the proper words to it tho.

>>4813102
>Medusa has the supernatural power to turn any living thing to stone with her gaze
>Depict her with a sword because "muh subversion"

You could have had her holding a head with cracks and jagged fractures to show it's stone. And it would have fit into the myth because she did actually kill a bunch of people before Percseus decapitated her.

coochie

>>4813102
Huh?

>>4813176
How else would she have cut off the dudes head you dumb dumb. Spend less time on /pol/

>>4813102
i mean the proportions are there, but the pose is so stiff and basic that it hurts.

>>4813102
I get way this is suppose to represent, but Perseus wasn't a dick. He was just trying to save his mom and the dickhead gods who were responsible for making Medusa into a monster told him to slay her to do this. So this is just anger being taken out on the wrong place. I prefer pic related as a subversion of the myth. Looks almost romantic.

>>4813448
I love Medusa

>>4813102
She could have depicted the head as crushed,but no she had to give medusa,of all goddess,a fucking machete. Like a basic murderer.

0/10 sculptor did it for shitty propaganda

>>4813448
Perseus was trying to uphold the status quo and patriarchy. He deserved to die like all men.

>>4813102
Why does Medusa has an innie?

>>4813463
Medusa wasn’t a goddess and the implication is she took Perseus’s sword and did to him what myth said he did to her. Thematically, women should use the tools of the patriarchy to reverse gender roles on me . Do I share this board with literal brainlets?

>>4813468
Shit interpretation.

>>4813471
>the tools of the patriarchy
I wonder what the tools of the matriarchy are. They probably break very easily.

>>4813488
I want to be lauren mayberry's little baby tampon boy. i want to turn into a little crying baby and then suck on her breasts. her magic breast milk would turn me into a little baby tampon boy. she would stick me into her hoo-hoo and i would wait with anticipation spouting little baby goo-goo gagas waiting for her to bleed all over me. i want to feel her lauren mayberry blood inside my little goo-goo ga-ga baby tampon body. i want to absorb her hoo-hoo juices inside my little baby tampon boy body and goo-goo ga-ga like a little rolly-polly baby boy. it would be orgasmic to know i am one with her hoo-hoo lauren mayberry blood and i would giggle and goo-goo ga-ga and yelp with little baby boy excitement as i roll around in her lauren mayberry hoo-hoo and revel in her red juices, slurping them into my soft little baby tampon boy goo-goo ga-ga body. then i want her to pull me out and squeeze and wring my little baby tampon boy body so that her lauren mayberry hoo-hoo blood and juices spill all over her lauren mayberry face. it would hurt and i would scream in pained goo-goo ga-gas as pain envelops my little baby tampon boy body until i reach full climax and turn back into a grown human man.

>>4813468
>Perseus was trying to uphold the status quo and patriarchy. He deserved to die like all men.
Nothing wrong with the patriarchy tho.
Women deserve to be oppressed and subjugated because they are inferior human beings.
Patriarchy is only a natural occurrence in the world, just as natural as breathing.

>>4813510
I don't like you

>>4813102
>Insecure and resentful woman has fantasies of inflicting violence on others based on supposed oppression she probably never suffered
What else is news?

>MWTH (Medusa With The Head) is an artist run project entangled in the narrative habits of classical imaginaries, their foundational role in present culture and visions of the future. MWTH seeks to reorient androcentric lore, to queer iconography, to re-reformulate antiquity’s heroic center and its modes of (re)production.

>Through stories that are told and retold over centuries, our iconography shapes our ideology.

>>4813563
>MWTH Project was (immaculately) conceived by Bek Andersen in the immediate wake of the Kavanaugh hearings. The day Kavanaugh was confirmed to the highest court of the land, Bek came across the viral image of Medusa with the Head of Perseus by Luciano Garbati, an inversion of Cellini’s Perseus With the Head of Medusa. She was inspired to contact the artist in Argentina and bring the sculpture to New York. In Novermber 2018, The unapologetically revisionist Garbati Medusa was on view IRL at 263 Bowery, alongside works by Molly Zuckerman-Hartung, Fox Hysen, Amaryllis DeJesus Moleski, Danielle Bowman, Este Puerta, Ilana Savdie, Terri Zupanc, Yo-E Ryu, Camille Altay, and Bek Andersen.

>>4813261
think the pose is supposed to be structural, intimidating and authoritative. stop only listening to people who draw cartoons

>>4813102
Medusa's face makes her look like a man with tits and no junk

>>4813102
sword not straight, she is a lesbian confirmed

>>4813102
Wop or nig?

>>4813176
fit into the myth?

>>4813574
He's right. You can have a subtle authoritative pose without being so boring. There is zero dynamism. If that statue were to lose its hands, it'll lose 100% of its interest. The props are doing the bulk of the story telling.

>>4813579
Not with that hip:shoulder ratio.

I'm almost 29 and I'm still a virgin.

>>4813448
What do you expect from a leftie? She probably saw the movie and read about Perseus in a feminist critique book

Wtf are these?

>>4813574
>structural
there's that word again, what the fuck would that even mean in this context? what kind of pose isn't structural for that matter?

>>4813603
So? I've seen real men with child bearing hips in comparison. Anon's point still stands, that Medusa isn't particularly feminine.

>>4813610
only 1 year to go for wizard status bro

>>4813615
see the official description of the project here >>4813563
if you throw a bunch of words together it makes you sound like you know what you're talking about. This is Theory 101, lrn2Jargoplex

>>4813102
IS THAT A PUSSY I SEE?

>>4813610
27 here bro i don't even care anymore, fapping is less work

>>4813600
depsite it being a fairly upright pose the artist still manage to give it a contrapposto. also it's a little unfair to say "the piece would be more interesting if you removed the focal point" since that's where all the action is happening.
overall i do not like the piece, but it's certainly not the pose that sells it short. it's exactly the type of posture you would imagine someone coldly emerging from a victory would strike. the face is uncanny, perhaps due to the eyes, a lot of the features on the body feel a little washed out (not sure what the sculpture equivalent of that term would be), and the artist could've afforded to do something a little more interesting with the snake hair, but the post most certainly serves it's purpose well

>>4813176
What made you think that was Medusa? I immediately thought of Judith from this Artemisia Gentilesci painting

>>4813468
>'wah wah patriarchy is bad!!'
know your place, cumdumpster

>>4813563
>>4813566
Wait, let me get this straight.
>she sees a sculpture
>has the guy who made the sculpture bring it to new york to be displayed in a gallery
>this is somehow a project she conceived to fight the patriarchy and make mythological figures lgbt

>>4813974
This is a vile picture.

>>4814062
That's exactly what happened, and why she's considered 1 of the contributing "artists". God I hate the art world.

>>4813974
actually kill yourself

>>4814084
>vagoo tries to stand her ground

>>4813963
because she has fucking snakes for hair.
also it's pretty much a /beg/ attempt at swapping pic related.

>>4813974
Christ, I'm glad people like you never leave your basements.

>>4813102
I don't get it, why medusa kill perseus? Modern art is just style over substance

Medusa has the (unique) power to turn people to stone. A power so incredible the Gods themselves fear her for it.
Here she is depicted with a sword, having decapicated Perseus.
This Medusa, by apropriating the patriarchal tools,has forgotten her own, unique power, and what made her strong in the first place. She forsake a power the Gods were fearing to bring herself down to the level of a lowly male.
The sculpture itself lacks the dynamism of >>4814103 that it tries to subvert, making it inferior to the male version
Ultimate irony, in that case Medusa herself is stiff and made of stone, as if defeated by her own power

OP's piece is anti-feminist as fuck. The fact that the picture also depict a woman (the artist?) next to the piece proves that what matters isn't the piece itself, but the message it tries and fails to convey
3/10, sad for the materials wasted

>>4814116
OP's Medusa just got unironically and eternally BTFO'd.

>>4813102
>Muh vagina

>>4813448
this is actually decent art which is rare on this board

>>4813563
>>4813566

>>and by their fruits, you shall know them

the wicked always invert, subvert and destroy

>>4813102
Looks like feminst garbage.

>>4813974
damn. so this is what happens when you havent had vagina when you reach 30.

>>4813468
all men will ultimately die, so will all women.

>>4813574
cartoons? im not talking about some fucking crazy ass pose with blood slinging eveywhere, just a little big of tension to keep the eye interested. i can pretty much just look at the face and assume how the rest of the body will look cause theres no surprises. theres hardly any contraposto even. David also has a semi stiff pose, but it still feels very fluid and interesting to look at.

>>4813974
hope you find love or happiness

>>4814563
david has better everything, anatomy , pose, proportions.
>>4813102
looks like your average instathot. the sculpture too.

>>4814568
open your legs whore

>>4814592
die on a fire then dungeon virgin

>>4814617
D I L A T E

>>4813102
great bait thread for /pol/, good job OP

>>4813612
retard it's a stiff sculpture where "villain character won" and you're screaming feminism leftism already

>>4813102
the sculptor is male, italian. that's basically a fish in water.
https://www.lucianogarbati.com/medusa

>>4813974
holy based

>>4814116
Best sculpture critique since forever.

>>4813901
the focal point is the girl to the right of the statue.

>>4813176
No that would make it objectively worse

i just made her entire point in a minute
"fine artist" need to try harder if they want their shit to matter in the 21st century

>>4814084
>>4814104
>>4814555

ok but that still doesn't change the fact that women are inferior beings.

>>4815016
1. artist was a guy.
2. the merit of putting work effort into a piece is it’s own reward.
3. you’re ngmi.

>>4815265
>muh own reward
yeah you're not going to make it

>>4813176
Tbh i tought it was the one of the girls from the bible who cut someones head off
Like judith or salome
Then i saw the snakes and it all stopped making sense

>>4815282
While you wallow in mediocrity I will pursue excellence.

>>4815495
you need to be 18+ to post on this board

>>4813102
>I do opposite because ladies
How trite.
Fundamentally sound, but creatively bankrupt.

>>4813974
lmao, the monster radfeminism created. look upon your ideological mirror and maybe consider not antagonizing regular people because you feel threatened by their genitals.

>>4813566
>in the immediate wake of the Kavanaugh hearings
of course.

>>4815567
Don’t blame radfems or feminism for male violence and degeneracy. If anything, feminism exists because of men like this, not the other way around.

>>4815633
Nah. Radicals radicalize each other. Violent commies create violent nazis, man-hating women create women-hating men. Of course the reverse is equally true, but if your goal is a world where humans don't hate each other, why point fingers and scream "waaah, but they did it first", instead of addressing the problem on your side where you can actually make things happen?

>>4815633
go back to the kitchen fag

>>4815638
Um. Because men have been doing this to women since the beginning of humanity? You are honestly comparing a mountain to a mole hill. Men have done and continue to do far worse to women as a whole than women do to them. I’ve been in radfem communities before and yes, some women hate men, but that’s not exclusive to radfem at all. You’re not going to find a picture of men crying naked, chained to a wall, with barcodes on them in any radfem space. Women have legitimate reasons to hate and fear men. Men pose an actual threat to us, and them openly being perverts and creeps (whether they have enough brain cells to recognize this or not) doesn’t help. Being a failure of a man is not a legitimate reason to hate women, nor is it excusable to incite and/or act out violence against them. There is no comparison.

You are exhibiting classic misogyny when you tell women to essentially be the bigger person. I don’t have to be kind to you, I don’t have to nurture you, I don’t have to fix you. I don’t have to take the high road while men can’t be bothered to even recognize my humanity (according to the original image we are replying to). Incels hate all women. They hate their own mothers, they hate women that have sex, they hate virgins/“prudes”, they hate fat women, skinny women, white women, black women, every type of woman. Radfems hate violent and degenerate men, based on their actions, not on their “genitals.”

>>4815642
Real original!

>>4815697
original just like your pussy

>>4815697
>Um. Because men have been doing this to women since the beginning of humanity?
Retard, women as a whole have been a PROTECTED class though the course of history because they're the only means of human reproduction.
If women were raped, killed and tortured like your retarded propaganda says then humanity would have gone extinct AGES ago.

The only reason why you think women have it worse somehow is because your mind tells you that women are fragile and weak, and thus they 'suffer more' and 'deserve more'.

'Because woman' should be recognized as a logical fallacy.

>>4815697
>Women have legitimate reasons to hate and fear men
no you don't. stop being a sexist pig.

>>4815567
you are the one that feel threatened because of your gender, because someone says what in general is wrong with 'men' and you automatically think they attack you, and you have to start defending yourself.

jesus christ just get laid. its not that hard.

>>4815728
>have sex

>>4815697
>"BB-B-BUT IM A VICTIIIIM!!!"
hush now, babe.

>>4815733
You think you’re being funny or pulling some type of “gotcha” on me, but you’re just proving my point more and more.

>>4815726
lmao the usual pseudo intellectual behaviour.

>I dont (officially) look down on minorities, therefore i will not accept any form of special treatment or care for minorities.

redditors go away

>>4815733
are you gaslighting the walking victim complex on purpose?

>>4815732
wow, you literally just repeated what i said. Nice technique.

>>4815758
Are you retarded?

>>4815758
next time just say what you mean directly and concisely :)

>>4815762
kill yourself. happy?

>>4815753
if "special treatment" means that I should accept that women have "legitimate reasons for hating men", then the same reasoning would have to be applicable to other group dynamics. i.e. "whites have legitimate reasons for hating and being afraid of blacks".
you're trying to justify bigotry, it really is that simple.

>>4815760
not my fault you are so used to being called a virgin for your retarded views on women. But its hardly an insult at this point. Literally having sex with/dating a woman would make you realize they are just as human as you and deserve the same treatmeant.

>>4815748
What point? You don't even have an argument.
You're just bitching about how hard you have it because of your filthy vagina.
If you're looking for asspats then fuck off to twitter.

>>4815495
excel at what? skill is only worth achieving if it supports your purpose
improving for its own sake is a waste of time if your message isn't supported by it

>>4815778
>'You hate women, therefore you can't have sex or interact with them.'
LOL
Looks like daddy didn't gave you the talk, eh hun?

>>4815777
how is that comparable? do white people have a reason to believe that any black person, regardless of gender would rape/hurt/shit on them at any given point, including normal life, work environment or a night out, for no reason? i dont think so. You dont have to fight for your right to be white male. If you arent part of the problem, then nobody is gonna say you are, if you just think a tiny bit without overreacting.

>>4815791
are you even reading what im saying? im saying the exact opposite. Im actively saying you should spend more time with all the people you hate so much, for unknown reasons, and you will quickly realize they are human. Even though you sound like a son of a bitch so maybe dont spend too much time, and remember because she is drunk and unable to say no, doesnt mean its a yes.

>>4815793
You don't have to fight for your right to have a cunt either, you dummy.

>>4815798
I suggest you stop projecting your hateful stereotypes onto people you don't know.

>>4815798
All I heard is an insecure cunt making assumptions and generalizations.

>>4815801
im not a woman. but thanks for proving my point that you automatically think less of me for thinking i have a vagina. Read a fucking book, unironically.

All women should have their hands cut off and mouth sealed up while newborn

>>4815805
if I dont know you well enough its because you didnt express your opinion well enough you fucking retard. i dont know, and dont want to know your fucking life story, im just reacting to the things you said. stop being retarded.

>>4815807
refer to >>4815809

>>4815809
>im not a woman.
Whoa... Just like the holy texts predicted.

>>4815817
yea im not gonna read a text that starts out with "women are bodily weak and mentally inferior". But have fun circlejerking in your disgusting incel communities.

>>4815722
Whites colonized, murdered, pillaged, and raped Native Americans. So why are there still Native Americans today? Are you really that dumb?

>>4815793
>do white people have a reason to believe that any black person, regardless of gender would rape/hurt/shit on them at any given point, including normal life, work environment or a night out, for no reason?
what are you trying to imply here? do you think that women do have reason to believe those things?
>You dont have to fight for your right to be white male. If you arent part of the problem, then nobody is gonna say you are
so if someone says I'm part of the problem that means I must be guilty. got it.

>>4815817
also the fact that you think a woman would lie about being a man, in a discussion about gender is just out of this world. You are beyond saving, but i still hope for the women in your life 'id they exist' that some day you will be saved.

>>4815824
>what are you trying to imply here? do you think that women do have reason to believe those things?
yes

>so if someone says I'm part of the problem that means I must be guilty. got it.
thats the opposite of what im saying. just think 1 more second before writing next time.

>>4815822
there is a reason woman didn't go hunting and they still struggle to keep up with man in any field besides nurturing new spawns

>>4815822
*hugs*

>>4815823
I'm not talking about race, you retard.

>>4815824
>what are you trying to imply here? do you think that women do have reason to believe those things?
WOW! Is it finally clicking for you? Look up female experiences on things like stalking, walking home alone, cat calling, etc. I know you probably don’t have any women in your life that would speak to you about those things, but surely you could find some posts online about it.

I wonder what the ratio of incels to feminists larping as incels to third parties false-flagging for fun to incels larping as radfems to radfems in this thread really is.

>>4815842
No shit, retard. If you can’t put 2 and 2 together, there’s no hope for you.

You said if women were being raped and killed, humanity would be extinct. My point is that you can harm people extensively and they can still persist. You can’t kill EVERY woman, just how like you couldn’t kill EVERY Native American.

>>4815848
>Look up female experiences
Yeah, as if only females experience those things.
Peak pop-tart logic.

>>4815856
>Completely ignoring the point and saying “men too!”

Peak scrote logic.

>>4815848
your entire framework is fucked. specific bad experiences with specific men don't implicate the rest of the male part of the population, just like the horrible experiences specific men have with specific women don't implicate all of womankind.

>>4815853
>Equaling race with gender.
Who's the retard here?

HELLO I WILL BE ANY GIRLS BOYFRIEND! LITERALLY ANY GIRL! I WILL BE THE BOYFRIEND TO LITERALLY ANY GIRL!
ANY
GIRL
AAAAAHHHH

>>4815848
>Look up female experiences
you mean, anecdotes?

>>4815848
Yeah yeah, you're SOOOOO vulnerable for being a lady.
Please tell us how you got almost raped because the loner from your uni said hello to you.

>>4815848
>oh no a stalker
because that can't happen to men

The enlightenment was a mistake.

>>4815865
If you can’t see the similarities in that comparison, that’s your problem. I never said gender and race were the same. I merely took a group that another group attempted to eradicate (by harming them), and pointed out that they still remained despite the crimes committed against them, just as how women have remained (despite men harming them) because you insisted that if women were being raped/killed, there would be no humanity left.
>>4815870
So funny. I think deep down you’re just afraid to read them because you might feel like they are talking about shit you’ve done, incel.
>>4815876
If you go read some female experiences, you will see that a friendly “hello” can quickly turn into something much darker. I have no problem saying hello back to someone. The problem is that many men like to think a cordial hello back means “I want you.” Which we don’t. Just the other day there was a story about a guy in the UK who posted letters to everyone down an entire street because he met some girl at a park that gave him a fake number. You can say “why did she lead him on and give him a fake number instead of just saying she wasn’t interested?” Because men kill women over shit like that. We can’t even say we have a boyfriend anymore because guys automatically assume we are lying. We say those things because we are scared of your retaliation. Men are pathetic and can’t take no for an answer.

>>4815886
if you go read some male experiences you'll plenty of false accusations destroying their lives
give women some freedom and they'll turn into snakes and get your from your back like the cowards they are
nice pic op

>>4815886
>If you can’t see the similarities in that comparison, that’s your problem.
Then by using your retarded logic how come women aren't a minority worldwide if they've been 'raped and killed' just as much as the native americans?

I’m not gonna read this entire thread, but all I have to say is based. Also, pic related

>>4815877
I said FEMALE EXPERIENCES on things like STALKING, etc. FEMALE. EXPERIENCES. So MAYBE, just MAYBE, you can think about how it is for someone that’s not like you. I never once said any of these things could only happen to women. How fucking stupid are you? LEARN HOW TO READ.

>>4815886
>If you go read some female experiences, you will see that a friendly “hello” can quickly turn into something much darker.
if I wanted to read fiction I'd rather read Discworld, you dumb dunt.

Go complain about wahmen on /r9k/ or /pol/ you fags

>>4815898
if it happens to both gender then what even is the point of going over there, equality and all that shit women want is working quite well

>>4813610
>>4813642
This made me sad. Once I make it, I’ll be sure to throw some art hoes your way and for other men who have been cheated out of the sex that the lesser gender owes us. Or just regular whores if you want that instead. Not that there’s much of any difference.

>>4815902
This explains how it’s different in films, but it also can be applied to real life situations.
https://youtu.be/rZ1MPc5HG_I

Women stalking men poses less of a threat because women are inherently less threatening. Can we physically overpower you? No. Men also stalk more because they “pursue” women more. They can’t accept rejection. The video shows all of this. You can say “oh it’s just about movies you dumb gash” but once again, it all applies to real life.

>>4815925
So:
>Movies = Real Life
Got it.

>>4815928
>>4815925
Go dilate and then draw instead of continuing this retarded argument

>>4815928
I literally say that, and that it can be applied to real life in the first fucking line of my post. If you don’t have the attention span to watch a YouTube video, scroll it’s comments for 2 minutes and you’ll see a number of real life examples. I’m done talking to you losers. Congrats on having your first “conversation” with an actual woman though.

>>4813510
>>4813974
>>4815221
>>4815817
>>4815839
If your rambling reads like the caption for weird fetish art on deviantArt, you have problems.

>>4813614
You couldn't find a bigger picture?

>>4815925
if only there were tools making physical power irrelevant, hmmm, i should take note of that and invent those
what a retard
oooooh, men can't accept rejection, ah yes. that's why whenever they get rejected on an interview they start stalking the interviewers, or when a father gets rejected by something retarded his son said they lose their minds because they can't accept rejection, men just can't, it's an unwritten law, i see, thanks i learned it now so if i get rejected from something irrelevant i know i just can't accept it and will definitely start stalking whatever rejected me and women are definitely an all innocent being able to accept all rejections with no problems at all

>>4815925
>Women stalking men poses less of a threat because women are inherently less threatening. Can we physically overpower you? No.
Woah, didn't knew women weren't able to carry weapons or use social situations too take advantage of their potential targets, like, you know, children.

Fucking retard.

>>4815902
>>4815891
>>4815877
>>4815856

>"Women have it worse, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN!?"

>>4815943
see, equality, now open your legs, that's what you do best

>>4815943
>'wah? everything doesn't revolve around women? then that means everything REVOLVES AROUND MEN YOU EVIL INCELS!!!'
wow

>>4815949
I mean, if you actually left your mother's basement and went the fuck outside once in a while, you'd realize how easy you as a man have it!

>>4815954
ok snowflake

>>4813102
how do i get into sculpting? specifically marble sculpting, theres not that many courses on it

And the lesson today is...

>>4815960
Please have sex already! I guaran-fucking-TEE you won't be such a pathetic manbaby incel afterward.

>>4813610
I love posts like these.

>>4815977
https://youtu.be/3Vpq5Q5x7As
>>4815975
I wanna know the origin behind that pic

>>4815981
Why

>>4815954

>>4815982
>>4815988
>tfw you have no solid counterargument so you just post memes

>>4815995
there is a reason man on average die younger than woman, if they had an easier life it would be the other way around ignorant cunt

>>4816013
Yeah, and that's because men are fucking cowards who expect women to cater to their every need, then get super pissy when they don't get their way.
Kinda like what you and every other incel shitting up this thread are doing right now.

>>4816031
you mixed men and women in your post there, sagged booby monkey

>>4816031
That’s fine and all, but why don’t you and your girl power yass Queen slay squad go and create your own civilization without us silly men’s o we can see who better once and for all?

Hint: you can’t, silly whore

>>4816040
>>4816043
Cry some more. Your tears sustain me <3

>>4816046
nice projection

>>4816052
Et tu, incel.

>>4816073
yeah, im crying im going to kill my self because a fat woman said im incel and i have life easy for me. wait, something doesn't add up

Why do women believe "incel" is insulting? Is it because they derive their whole value from being nicely shaped meatbags?

>>4815938
Me, clearly talking about MEN PURSUING WOMEN for RELATIONSHIPS OR HOOKUPS and how it can lead to stalking: Men can’t take rejection.
You, an autistic coomer brain retard: MEN GET REJECTED IN JOB INTERVIEWS ALL THE TIMEZZZZZZ!!! THEY DON’T STALK THE EMPLOYERSSSSZ!!1! NOT ALL MEN!!!!
Go back to grade 5 and learn basic reading comprehension, idiot.

>>4816170
>I NEED TO USE CAPS TO SHOW PUSSY POWAH1!!11!!! HAAAWRRR

>>4816170
you were the one generalizing that men can't take rejection. as if women could , look at ya

>>4815865
Women are the niggers of gender.

>>4815977
Have sex with me pls

>>4816080
Well you're clearly upset enough to continue responding to the soooper mean roastie that called you an incel in the first place instead of, oh I dunno, getting off the computer and going outside?

>>4816095
"Look at how not mad I am!"

>>4816172
>"I NEED TO UNDERMINE WOMEN'S EXPERIENCES TO FILL THAT GAPING HOLE IN MY HEART CUZ I CAN'T GET LAID!!!"

Friendly reminder that we're merely years away from being able to mass produce perfect women who breed, raise and love unconditionally, and that the same cannot be said about men because robots don't have power and a place in social hierarchy (which is what women seek in men, begin the social whores that they are)

What a time to be alive lads.

>>4816189
Yoko Ono got it right there.

>>4816209
>merely centuries
ftfy

>>4815925
>Women stalking men poses less of a threat because women are inherently less threatening. Can we physically overpower you? No.
The issue with this argument is that it implies stalking is only a threat when someone can physically overpower someone else. So it's okay for people to stalk other people as long as the victim is physically stronger than them? That doesn't make much sense to me.

>Men also stalk more because they “pursue” women more. They can’t accept rejection.
I don't know how many attempts you've done in asking women out, but from experience the sheer amount of rejections you get as a man from women is incomprehensible to women. And I'm not saying women should just "say yes", that's not the point. The point is that men DO accept a lot of rejections. It would be impossible to function if you can't handle rejection from women.

Most of the men who don't handle rejection well are men who haven't had much experience getting rejected - either the very young, the very non-social, or the super attractive ones. Couple that with a society that tells you that if you get rejected that means there's something wrong with you (instead of the fact that a specific woman might just not find you attractive for any number of reasons), and with entertainment constantly hammering it into our heads that you can "change a woman's mind if you try hard enough for 90 mins" (and remember, if you can't, then there's something wrong with you), and you've got a bit of a disaster on your hands.

You see this kind of thing happening even worse in India where Bollywood movies and societal values push even harder the idea that you can "prove yourself".

>>4816208
Why should we care about the experiences of fucking animals?

>>4816182
Anon: Women aren’t humans. Here’s an image of women with barcode tattoos tied to a wall by their necks. Hehe! Slapping a cunt is like slapping a mosquito! All women are just holes!
Me: Men can’t take rejection.
You: Don’t generalize!!!
Where’s your “don’t generalize” attitude for shit like that? We get it. You hate women.
>>4816209
Friendly reminder that you’re a delusional incel. Ignoring the fact that it will never happen because a) tech isn’t there b) unethical... You simply won’t be able to afford it.

>>4816209
>>4816216
Friendly reminder that your waifu will never fuck you, not in a million years. Keep jacking off into your sock, bruh.

Imagine being that much of a self centered mental midget that you believe random quoteless posts are talking about you.

>>4816232
>Anon: Women aren’t humans. Here’s an image of women with barcode tattoos tied to a wall by their necks. Hehe! Slapping a cunt is like slapping a mosquito! All women are just holes!
>Me: Men can’t take rejection.
Something doesn't add up. Hmmm....

>>4816236
>when you're so worthess that even sock can replace your whole value as a human being

I love being a man.

I for one welcome the waifuage.

>>4813974
This train of thought truly puzzles me. Like did the mother of this person who made this beat them as a child? To the point they have the most bizarre and ridiculous few of girls?

>>4816232
>unethical
What do you mean?

>>4816245
>I love being a man
>Women have it waaaay easier
Pick a side, coomer!

>>4816257
It raises a valid point, though.

>>4816265
Who are you quoting, meathole?

>>4814689
and not a single anon gave a fuck. easier to just take the bait i guess.

>>4813974
That picture is not wrong though, unless you're a Margarete Thacher you're quite literally a fucking hole.

>>4814689
*Argentinian, that is, a budget Italian.

>>4816230
I said LESS of a threat. If someone is following me and I know I could defeat them 1v1, they are LESS of a threat. In almost all cases, a man can defeat a woman, 1v1. A man can scare a woman more easily than the reversed. A man is PHYSICALLY more intimidating than a woman, just by standing there. It doesn’t make sense to you because you don’t know how to read and you’re clearly not a fucking woman. I never said stalking was OK in any circumstance. You are pulling out shit that doesn’t exist because you don’t have an actual argument.

If men can accept rejection so well, then why have I, or countless others that I know personally, and even more that I’ve read online, all have stories of being afraid to reject someone? We can never say no without being interrogated by a stranger or made to feel unsafe. Perhaps I should have said “women are afraid of rejecting men (especially strangers that put us in awkward positions) because we have learned through our social conditioning that men pose a threat to us if we anger or upset them.” Is that better for you? I shouldn’t have to say that I have a boyfriend for you to suddenly respect my boundaries and fuck off. Cause if we just say “not interested” they do shit like walking alongside us trying to keep talking, creepily stalk us because they think they have a chance, or say dumb shit like “u ugly anyways XD” so you can save face.
>>4816260
Google what that means. It will never happen for the same reason why people are against stuff like cloning or creating hybrid species. Yes, we can do that to an extent, but it’s discouraged, even illegal, because it’s fucked up. If they don’t want us to clone monkeys, what the fuck makes you think they will let incels buy “breeding” machines?

>>4816266
There is no point. Men have held women back in domesticity since domesticity was a thing. No shit we haven’t invented as many things. If things were even from the start, they would be even now.

>>4816276
>Men have held women back
and the f*male race did fuckall about it until men themselves "freed" them

>>4816276
>No shit we haven’t invented as many things. If things were even from the start, they would be even now.
You cunts have got the freedom to do something big for decades and you've come up with almost nothing.
Women are fucking worthless besides breeding.

>>4816276
That's why I'm asking you what do you mean, ethics is a relational concept that doesn't apply to lifeless dolls. Also funnily enough there are already plenty of women working out there as "breeding machines" for the right price.

>>4816269
Literally the entire thread, coombrain!

>>4816271
And you have coom for brains.

>>4816285
I know it might be hard for a female, but you have to understand there's more than one people besides you participating in this thread.

>>4816276
>Men have held women back in domesticity since domesticity was a thing. No shit we haven’t invented as many things.
umm, sweet tea - your place is in the kitchen becoming familiar with appliances and various spices and herbs, satisfying your Man and nurturing his children. You don't have to do anything other than not be a bitch, look pretty, and know your place. You are never going to find another Man that will want to be with you with that stronk independent w*myn who needs no man and if you do manage to find someone he will inevitably cheat or leave you and that's when you will become a vindictive little bitch and cry rape.

Why is /ic/ so bad? Is it because it's literally next to /r9k/?

Do you fags even draw? Are you all just /beg/s?

>>4816292
Said it before and I'll go ahead and say it again we have a large contingent of Roasties that are in dire need of a good dicking but because they're so grotesque nobody wants to touch their legbeards and yeast infected jungle but expect to be courted like a damsel from prince charming.

If we're talking about "men" as a whole, then they haven't held women back because some of them allowed matriarchal societies to exist (the ones specifillay living in those societies), it's just that those models ultimately lost to patriarchal ones in the eternal race to insure access to limited resources. So yeah, if you wanna put it like that, you raced and you lost. Get over it already.

>>4816296
I've seen more incel shitposting ruining thread, such as this one, than anything else

>>4816276
>There is no point. Men have held women back in domesticity since domesticity was a thing. No shit we haven’t invented as many things. If things were even from the start, they would be even now.
Did you knew humanity used to live in a matriarchy?
Humans used to live in groups of families where the mother was the head of the group.
The only reason why patriarchies came about was because the matriarchy was taking us nowhere. Matriarchy is literally obsolete and useless, meanwhile patriarchy adapts

Also, patriarchy is a relatively new invention, coming from at least 100,000-200,000 years ago compared to the millions of years humanity lived in a useless matriarchy.

You cunts literally had MILLIONS of years of evolution to guide humanity towards enlightenment and did fucking nothing. It wasn't until men kicked your asses and imposed a patriarchy that humanity finally began moving towards civilization.

Cunts are fucking worthless.

>>4816298
>matriarchal societies
Name 5

>>4813974
i kinda vibe with the pic but still want to vomit

>>4816286
You're right. There's absolutely more than one person in this thread. That's why I've responded to more than one person in that comment.
I guess when you take the black pill, you lose any and all intellect such as reading comprehension.

>>4816296
>roasties are bad but me constantly crying about wahmen and bringing up shit that belongs in /pol/ is okay though
all of you need to fuck off

>>4816304
>being so shit at society building that you don't even leave records behind
Just nails the point that women are little more than nice looking meatholes.

>>4816308
>That's why I've responded to more than one person in that comment
Pretty sure you quoted just one though?

>>4816301
this thread was supposed to /r9k/-lite from the start, look at the OP filename

>>4813102
nevermind the absolute shit ideology behind this (because all ideology makes shit art) this is just shit execution. i mean i dont need a david but im gonna need more than hardly human. also
>roast beef
wth bro, penises look fine, but no one wants to see roast beef outside of arbys, its like seeing a hooker in your kitchen, i dont want to use either again

>>4813448
There is a Russian book about a grandson of Perseus where we find out that he didn't actually kill Medusa but was so pissed by what gods did to her that he made them lift the curse and married her. So Andromeda actually was Medusa.

>>4816312
You just dismantled the argument made from this >>4816298 though just for a “gotcha”. Also most men are privileged, even some women who work with those men to continue the class divide. Most woman are under-privileged (especially outside the western society).

>>4816331
I didn't dismatle anything, if you weren't functionally retarded you'd know a list of specifically matriarchal societies is a web search away, e.g.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_matrilineal_or_matrilocal_societies
But none of those is remarkable enough to warrant a slot in my otherwise limited memory, which is frankly busy enough with male achievement to bother with them.
>most men are privileged
Not really, even patriarchal societies are built around the idea of treating men like disposable guardians and women like special snowflakes who deserve unlimited protection from their own retardation and men from other groups.

>>4816331
You should go outside more, because all you will see in the workforce are W*men in the front counters, W*men working inside nice cool air conditioned buildings, W*men doing a simple job that doesn't demand a labor intensive task.
>b-but muh third world oppreshun!
Despite being third world and outside of "western society" the third world does not have the disproportionately unhappy and unmarried F*moid that wonders where have all the good men gone as she gets ready to settle down after being used goods because in the third world people are married at a much younger age, they're accorded their roles in the sexes and have none of the f*minist ideologies that destroys the nuclear family unit.
>muh male privilege!
Meanwhile Belle Delphine is selling her bathwater, making hundreds of thousands from her onlyme fans, patreons all by showing some skin and making goofy faces. Get fucked cunt.

I HAVE BEEN POSTING HERE FOR 2 YEARS AND STILL HAVENT FOUND A BOYFRIEND FREE GIRL AAAAHHH AAAAHHHH

>>4816303
>>4816298
this desu, "feminism" is just a code word for "let's allow a new patriachal society to take over".

>>4816377
>Most of the posters in this thread in a nutshell

>>4815985
shutup normie

>>4813974
cringe image

>>4815221
jewish false flag

>>4816312
So you can't name a single matriarchy? How adorable~!

>>4816314
After forcing myself through an entire thread of "abloo bloo bloo women have it so easy", then suddenly "I love being a man! I get to beat off into a SOCK!"

>>4815982
this song is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quEjSjuafAY

>>4816371
"You should go outside more" cried the pedoweeb

>>4815891
>293847287382627 women gets raped and murdered every year
anon: uhm so theres this uuuhm dude where he got uuuuhm falsely accused or something so yea that was pretty bad.

>>4816371
literally avatarfagging as a girl lmaoo

>>4816436
>an entire thread
Where different people participate though? Is the idea of individual differences so challenging for you that you need to ride on the training wheels of immutable, preconceived strawmen to make sense of them? Do you have mental difficulties?

>>4813974
Beatrix potter will outshine you forever, cuckboi

>>4816485
Stop playing dumb and actually read this entire thread, dumbass!

>>4815891
>tfw you sincerely think false accusations are real
Gimme sources or GTFO

>>4816499
You made me choose between two options that I myself purportedly presented so I don't see the point though?

These anti-female pictures are a new low. It’s so far from reality that I must urge anyone who feels a connection to the message; reach out to a mental health professional.
There’s room in life for “normal” objectification of women without being this Columbia Tech about it.
You are not superior to anyone, this is evident because you are posting images on 4chan as a power fantasy.
Get a grip , see a psychiatrist.

>>4816292
/ic/ is a toxic community. It's a lot easier to criticize and dismiss everything than actually try to be constructive and improve. The big cognitive dissonance between the quality of any draw thread and confidence of the "critiques" you read in thread like this speaks for itself.

>>4816513
You didn't present SHIT! All you did was gaslight and act like a retard!
>>4816625
Thankfully, the involuntarily celibate tend to seclude themselves in threads like these. Every other thread is just "anime bad" "coom bad" "stop having fun" "Loomis, Loomis, Loomis"!

>>4816519
it's mostly bait anon. Don't think too much of it

kek, the fuck is happening here, is that a woman seething or just some cuck who feels the need to defend them from anonymous shitposting?

imagine being a woman in 2020 and thinking they have any value in society other than breeding

>>4816693
Defend from what?
Some nonsense "critique"?
Make a painting with a better pose to prove your point and you'll make this thread actually useful. Right now it's just a useless vent thread.

But you aren't gonna do it, don't you?

>>4816706
no one is paying me, why should i

>>4816519
How else are you supposed to react to shit like "it's only natural for women to fear and hate men!!! I'm literally being personally raped, murdered and turned into a docile housewife by you RIGHT NOW and you WON'T APOLOGIZE?!?!"? You might try arguing for a bit, but sooner or later you'll get tired of responding earnestly to crazy accusations and start embodying the archetype of a chauvinist. They'll never stop bothering you unless they believe you're horrible and can't be reasoned with.

>>4816706
Are you going to pay me for that, otherwise why should i even waste time painting something for free

>>4816713
Thanks for proving my point.

>>4816723
what point?

>>4816716
Honestly how many women are like that irl and why are you talking to the crazies.

>>4816729
Not a lot and I'M NOT A WOMAN

>>4816729
almost non of them (though ideologues network well and have a lot of influence considering how tiny of a minority they are), and I don't pretend to be a chauvinist irl anyway. it's only a useful strategy in an anonymous environment where there aren't any social costs attached to it.

>>4816726
As expected:
>But you aren't gonna do it, don't you?

You just proved that you haven't the slightest idea of what's wrong in OP,
you don't know how you could improve some basic shit like the pose, and you're making up excuses for not doing it.

"No one is paying me" is just a dumb excuse. People post stuff here constantly for fuck's sake, but now you suddenly want to be paid.
Nobody is gonna steal your "masterpiece" and you could take it like an oppurtunity to test your skills and improve dumbass.

>>4816742
are you saying a stiff standing pose is good? how beg

>>4816757
Not what I'm saying you strawmanning /beg/ idiot.

I'm saying: prove that you know why it's stiff drawing a better pose.
This is what /ic/ should be.

Don't post random statues you're finding on google images, like you're proving anything. Everyone knows and love them but they have nothing to do with OP: different subjects and themes.

Subject of OP: Medusa just killed Perseo in self-defence, the pose depicts her just moments after the fact.

Go, make it better, /beg/.

>>4816742
I'm not sure if you're a /beg/ or ideologically motivated to defend the OP pic because you see it as some kind of men vs women thing, but either way >>4814116 and >>4814563 have pointed out how it's thematically confused and technically inferior to the original it tries to parody.
I think the assessment that it isn't even a good feminist work is completely right. The Medusa is a symbol of primordial fear - that's why it causes people to "turn to stone", which is to say, freeze in place, and Perseus slaying Medusa represents the victory of consciousness over the primordial. Presenting the reverse of that as a victory for women is just about the most sexist thing you could do with the theme.

>>4816775
ah yes, of course. here is a better pose depicting that moment

>>4816787
kek, I think you might be onto something with this.

>>4816778
>but either way >>4814116 and >>4814563 have pointed out how it's thematically confused and technically inferior to the original it tries to parody.

>it's stiff.

Wow, you really got them. Such deep critique.

Michelangelo's David isn't "stiff" because both the anatomy and the pose are slightly exaggerated, what's the fucking point of using him for comparison.
Make a better pose maintaining the naturalism and the realism if you know what you're talking about.

Also, the critique about the theme is nonsense, because you're just assuming that it's a parody, hence it's a strawman. At first you all didn't even understand that the girl posing isn't the artist for fuck's sake.

>>4816804
>the critique about the theme is nonsense, because you're just assuming that it's a parody, hence it's a strawman
oh, there's no way this is not bait. I refuse to believe it isn't.

>>4816792
>you might be onto something with this.

Yes. It's safer for you to criticize other artist's work than actually try to make better art.

That's why this board is full of these rants.

>>4816807
it's a joke post, retard.

>>4816804
art doesn't thrive in realism but interpretation of it, going for realism is shooting at your own foot

>>4816806
>he wants me to paint something
>must be bait!

>>4816810
I'm referring specifically to the part I'm quoting, obviously. stop deflecting.

>>4816812
You're deflecting in the first place criticizing this piece assuming the theme. Easier to do because you can make shits up, like saying it's a "parody".
This is a strawman.

Ever notice how women, lgbtqwerty folks, and their orbiters always seem to sympathize/identify with evil/the villain.

>>4816832
ThIs Is a StrAWmAn!1!1!1!1!!1!!

>>4816836
it's more that ideologues in general do that, but yes.

>>4816836
>lgbtqwerty
Kek

>>4816810
>post ONCE (>>4816693)
>like five different guys pretend to be me to lead you on a wild goose chase

>>4816832
>you're just, like, making assumptions duuude. I mean, a girl with snake hair holding the decapitated head of a man, it could mean anything.

>>4813102
sweet little vagina

>>4816654
>You didn't present SHIT! All you did was gaslight and act like a retard!
How so?

>>4815633
I know this is a hard pill to swallow for someone invested in the patriarchy narrative, but the status quo is pretty good if you look at the stats. violent crime and oppression of all kinds steadily goes down when people of different backgrounds communicate honestly, cooperate and play fair even as the try to achieve political objectives. by playing all-in power politics you retarded niggers are literally breeding a modern-day nazi movement.

>>4813102
>Showing vagoober

0/10, not muh classical nude figure.

>>4817080
steadily goes down when people of different backgrounds
oh yeah, except countries known to have like minded and same race population are known to have lower crime rates

>>4817291
>muh ethnostate
never going to happen, so your best bet is communicating and negotiating a common cultural foundation with the people you have to coexist with.

>>4817326
or kill the niggas off and pass it as accidents

>>4817339
Thanks for playing the part of the radicalized right-winger and supporting my argument that we're headed straight for a race war if lefties don't learn to communicate and play fair, I guess.

>>4817326
Dilate

>>4816483
>>4816438
My, my would you just look at how oppressed this she person is! Those $154k from her patreon combined with the $350k a month from her onlyfans has her in complete bondage (both literally and figuratively) as she will never have to lift a finger to earn a living for the rest of her life. Just look at how her oppressors are showering her with money, attention and practically adoring her as if she were an idol i'm literally shaking at how unprivileged she is.

>>4813102
Incels are the new furries

>>4813510
Dick=hard

>>4813111
Her hair is snakes, would you want little worm eyebrows and bush?

>>4817531
Not even gonna lie i actually fear for this girl and yeah it has a lot to do with the halo effect but hot dammit i hate seeing a girl destroy herself like this. The descent has been too well documented

>>4817566
I've met some chill furries. Incels on the other hand are inherently bad and unlikable people. See this shit thread for example.

>>4816702
Breeding is not a light task.

>>4816665
>>4816716
You make valid point anons.
I don't mind things being said for shock value or good humor. It's 4chan. On 4chan everyone is a dog, nobody is a woman and everything is fictional.
It cost me nothing to write that post. If it makes but one person decides to rethink their own value structure (even if they decide to continue) I've broken the echo chamber.

It's not very unlike a console war. Nintendo fan boys can't afford a gaming computer so they talk shit about them.

>>4817618
>Being successful and financially secured by showing a pair of underboobs while wearing cosplay and exploiting neckbeards is destroying yourself
>t. Assmad jealous Roastie
That's another thing about W*men in general, W*men hate seeing other successful W*men and will do anything to destroy each other.

>>4817642
the most fun part of this thread is ideologues tip-toeing around well-reasoned points and attempts to reconcile, so they can continue flinging shit at each other without getting distracted.

>>4815785
excel at making art, are you fucking dumb?

>>4817642
>Nintendo fan boys can't afford a gaming computer so they talk shit about them.
They're too busy spending money on their kids most of the time. Don't most PC gamers stop playing once they have children?

>/ic/ is filled with man hating women
This explains why this board is more hateful and angry than /pol/ and /r9k/

>mfw the girls on this board are better at art than the guys

No wonder you incels are so mad

>>4817702
haven't seen a single woman posting good art in this board

>>4817739
I wouldn't want anyone who has posted decent art on /ic/ to be associated with this thread

>>4817739
you'd be surprised.

>>4817758
is ic swimming in a pool of pussies? i should try getting an online date here

>>4813974
Wow, didn't knew /ic/ had so much cunts lurking in it.
Like, very funny how you get offended for misogyny and then pretend you're guys at the same time.

>>4817666
Most of the parentss I know that still game on a pc are divorced / split up and only have their kids every other week and weekend.

Personally I'm selling my Desktop and sticking with my Ipad pro and beefy laptop. If I need computing power for 3D renders I'll use a cloud service. The current trends in gaming are unsatisfying.

>>4817825
you're missing out on barbie truck bro GOTY

>>4817872
I don't have flashplayer pepehands

>>4817785
Who are you even quoting, bruh?

>>4813102
we've set a low bar for women who want to pretend to do things as well as men

>>4817739
Marmalade is pretty good, but she isn't one of these harpies afaik

>>4817996
Pretty sure at least half of the femanon posts are incels larping

>>4818077
I hope so, but I doubt it.

>>4818077
yes, and at least half of the incels are femanons larping.

>>4817339
Your a fucking moron and the reason why the world is in the state that its in.

>>4818659
Yeah absolutely. The reason there are niggers is because people suggested killing niggers.

>>4818865
Have one last (You) before the thread archives. You need all you can get.

>>4818909
I wonder why lately so many brainlets end up flocking to /pol/ and adopting radical right-wing ideologies. hhhhhhm

>>4818913
Because after 2016, everything became an "us vs them", tribal warfare deal. 4chan has always been center-leaning right, so its a natural escalation that most brainlets here would end up on the far right spectrum. Low iq people usually pick "a side" and chose to look at things as black and white.

>>4818929
I agree. Now, who's responsible for everything becoming "us vs them" after 2016?

>>4818936
DRRRRRUMMPFF

>>4818936
The American 2016 presidential campaign essentially inflamed social media, especially twitter, for the entire western world. It showed how retarded conservatives are to support trump and how two face and duplicitous librals are when they don't get their way after Clinton lost. The results of that whole clown fiesta had a cascading effect where other countries started to follow the trend of feeding into peoples extreme emotions. That's my general and take on why shit is so bad, but I would go into greater lengths if the thread wasn't at bump limit because every taking such obvious bait.