/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

wtf???? Did he make that much money by selling fun with a pencil????

reference 1

reference 2

Yo anon, I'm a /beg/ who started Loomis' fun with a pencil, on 20th of July. Could you rate my progress and give the insight on what issues I have, except for proportions and bad noses? Providing the shit I drew on start and the shit I drew on yesterday and today. Thanks.

>>4757245
Anon, 9 days isn't enough to see visible progress. The real question is, are things getting easier for you? You're doing fine, keep drawing.

can anyone find out why my drawing looks like down syndrome? i forgot the eyelash btw

>>4757257

>>4757249
Uh well, from what I see from my standpoint is that I require much less time to sketch the base forms for the face. Like, it took me tons of time earlier. Strokes became lighter and more... fluid? I do much less mistakes and sloppy strokes than earlier, I may even call my strokes somewhat precise (if we compare it to what was in the very beginning).

Moreover... A notable thing is that I don't have to redraw dozens of misshapen circles and basic forms for ears/cheeks/eyes etc to get a somewhat "normal" looking face, right now I'm doing it almost from the first try, chickenscratching rarely, though. Oh, and yes. When I do the markdown for the middle lane, eyes and ear lines I'm able to see the shape of the ball, its tilt and so on right away - earlier it took me like 5 or more minutes to perceive its form. Not sure that the last sentence makes sense, but well, that's how I'm able to explain it.
And last, but not least - I finally get the knack of sharpening my pencils properly with the Opinel.

>>4757257
angles on the brow and lips are off. chin not big enough and ears are too low to appear as head tilting backwards compared to the reference.

>>4757269
thanks i see it now!

>>4757273
oops sorry i meant the ears are too high compared to reference but seems like you understand. notice how in the reference the bottom of the ears line up to the bottom of the lips

How did I do?

>>4757502
bad

>be me
>complete beg
>spend 12 minutes on this shit, too lazy to finish

>>4757526
Why is his butt in front?

>>4757533
kek, I dunno

>>4757502
Symbol drawing. Unless thats the goal which it being /beg/ i doubt it was. Thumbnail colors looks interesting at least

>>4757524
lol that noob doesnt know how heads work HAHA they're not like that their ROUND and not SHARP!

>>4757130
>he doesn't know about the Loomis famiglia

>>4757257
ethan baker syndrome, that's your problem

Well, pls rate (´• ω •`)

>>4757627
Someone call an exorcist.

>>4757598
Well, it was supposed to be pretty symboly.

>>4757633
>it was supposed to be bad
then you did great

>>4757627
COOM COOM AAAAA CUM SEX BOOBS ASS IM GONNA COOOOOOOM

Was told to draw this in a previous beg and it turns out it might have been too hard. Donẗ even know where to start with the hair. Should i just think of "nature only has areas of color"?

>>4757598
what does symbol drawing mean?

>>4757643
>the absolute state of christcucks

>>4757644
post the ref

>>4757639
Whatever you say mr.photocopier

>>4757647
words fail me.

>>4757646
it means it's not realistic so i don't like it

>>4757644
Symbol drawing?

that's 'at digastric plane

>>4757644
ref

>>4757633
Im assuming you drew this from imagination then. That being said, symbol drawing happens when you draw what you think something looks like rather than what form it actually has. For example drawing a three fourths portait and drawing the lips as if they were front facing.
The hair in particular seems odd to be rendered without actual strands or hair being added.

>>4757693
Yeah, from imagination.
And yeah, the hair I'm least pleased with.

>>4757669
box idea

First time painting, I feel like I am making it more difficult than it really is. Any idea what I am doing wrong?

>>4757814
use da blur secret ninja technique

I drew some quick loomis sketches

>>4757814
You're using black and white for shading, which isn't good for skin tone. Shadows have colors too. The overall placement is sloppy too, especially on the values on the armpit, cheek, and right collarbone. But for a first attempt it's a good start, great job on completing it.

I'd recommend ctrl-paint and starting with rendering portraits and busts in grayscale. There's a few books to help you out, one by Bargue I think.

>>4757814
Are you rendering with black opacity brushes on y
The skin? Try more flesh tones like dark reds and browns.

>>4757646
It's a buzzword that basically lost all meaning.
What it used to mean was that if you're trying to copy something but instead of drawing what you see you draw what you think something looks like, you're drawing symbols.
People in these threads will call anything a symbol so just ignore it.

>>4757831

Thanks for the advice. I wasn't sure how to make it less sloppy, and it just felt like I was endlessly blending different colors after a while

>>4757838
>guy clearly draws symbol for mouth, nose, and eyes
>rendering looks like mud, doesn't make the shape 3d
>the word lost all meaning, don't listen to them ;)
what do you get from this? this anon probably thinks that he is good now

>>4757843
The mouth is nice and the eyes aren't bad either

>>4757846
>mouth with no cupid bow is nice
this board really is a waste of time. Go look up some anatomy videos, and stop reading loomis

>>4757861
>loomis bad
pyw

>>4757875
>mouth with no cupid bow nice
pyw

>>4757846
I don't think you know what an appealing drawing/painting actually looks like...

It's not the worse by far, compared to alot of others here. But it's still symbol drawing and bad rendering.

i feel like the shoulder areas are really off but i cant put my finger on it

>>4757907
The shoulders! Im looking at that baby neck anon. Please make it. Little thicker.

>>4757879

>>4757627
That's one weird head

>>4757911
ohhhh man thanks anon, upon fixing her neck i also found that the right upper arm also needed to be located a little higher up

>>4757265
Yeah, your linework has definitely improved.

>>4757526
retard.

>>4757644
eye placement is fucked
learn the anatomy of the nose (broken down to simple shapes) and learn to draw it in different angles.

>>4757676
You're in the right path, next time take way more time measuring maybe do the sketch one day and then leave it, come back later check out if its right and then maybe begin doing shadows.

Then, about the shadows, check out some are equally as dark but you rendered them different, try to squint or looking to the thumbnail of your ref

How to do linework? All my lines are samey and I don't get it

>>4758022
Pen pressure and line weight. Train your arm to adjust line weight as needed

>>4758026
That too, but there's something else, I use lines to define, outline, that's plain and bland though, what about the texture, a collection of lines making up form, I can't do that right now, I don't understand it, my lines are samey, descriptive

>>4758022
line weight is a meme.
just practice a shitload of gestures, and line quality exercises.

>>4758022
Lines aren’t for tracing your sketch with a 1D contour. Think of linework like painting the sketch to define the drawing with 2D forms.

>>4758046
That's it, it looks robotic, a 1D contour, huh...
>Think of linework like painting the sketch to define the drawing with 2D forms.
Easier said than done, what subjects would you recommend for this?

>>4758031
>line weight is a meme

what do you have to gain from going onto the internet and just lying to people

I was practicing on my proportions and something seems off but i can't exactly tell what, it feels like some parts are just too long but i can't tell...
Also pls help i seriously need to get better at proportions.

>>4757257
they aren't set in the skull properly, looks like symbol drawing things in perspective without understanding the forms and anatomy behind them

>>4757127
quick question !
is there a general rule for the placement of lines across the body in relation to the drawing of legs either in front or behind the body ?
like in warm up pic related, it might be hard to see but i didn't draw lines to represent the body across the leg going forward but did for the one going backwards.
is there a guide that deals with specifically this issue since i always feel like I'm messing up on the order of the lines.
i might draw another pic to visualise what i mean.

>>4758086
The arm has no perspective, only the hand. The arm should get bigger as it goes towards the camera

>>4758070
You mostly got it right horizontally, but you also need to consider the width of the body.

>>4758098
I get what you arr saying but im having trouble visualizing it :(
Could anyone be so kind to redline it?

>>4758001
Alright thanks. I should do the proportions chapter and shadows chapter of keys to drawing then I guess.

>>4758115
it should be something like this
don't take it literally it's just to give you an idea. the arm should get wider as it gets closer to the camera
the rest of the drawing is very nice. you are GMI

>>4758131
also for your style, i think you should get some hard paper and thin ink pens like pigma microns, also add some striking colors

>>4758131
it still looks kinda wrong, maybe the solution is overlapping the cylinders

>>4758070
He looks very thin, i suggest dividing up boxes to get more accurate proportions

>>4758131
Thank you anon, heres what i did.
I ripped the paper from all the erasing so im living the page like this before i punch a hole through. I am more concerned to see if i got it or not

>>4758115
sorry, I was taking a shower. I don't know if it helps you

>>4758218
Thank you, i also couldnt wrap my head around the elbow protection wraps. This is really helpful.

>>4758086
>>4758211

You guys really help me a lot, thank you again for the redlining!

Can someone please share their female construction process when drawing from imagination? As well as share the female body proportions they follow? How long should the torso be for a woman in relation to its length? How many heads tall?

>>4758086
i tried to overlapp a bit more the arm

Can someone trace this for me? It's supposed to have 1 or 2 squiggly lines but I can't see them. I see a mess of lines and loose ends. I even tried to change the hue, saturation, brightness and everything in gimp but couldn't see 1 or 2 squiggly lines.
Does it even make any sense to start visual art even as a hobby if I'm slightly colour blind?

>>4758288

>>4758288

Classic Noir movies are awesome, and they're in black and white. Don't let that stop you

What makes a drawing software different from others? Can I make the same drawing using Krita and Photoshop?

>>4758307
not really, but at your level it is of no consequence for you.

>>4758312
Why? What limitations are there? I mean with the programs

This is the first piece of "legitimate" art I've ever done. It looks super simple compared to some other stuff here, but I'm satisfied with it.

>>4758295
So you're colour blind too? :D
>>4758303
I don't like movies.

>>4758317
Based and gmipilled

>>4758316
brushes, settings, tools. Of course you can make the same art in paint as in photoshop if you make every pixel the same. But if we talk about normal usage, it would be harder.

>>4758317
If this is your first drawing, well done! Keep drawing anon.
The head looks a bit flat and the proportions are off but don't worry, you'll get it one day.

>>4758317
why didnt you rotate this or resize it?

>>4758331
My phone sometimes doesn't apply edits I make to images. I've yet to figure out why

>>4758331
Phoneposters are a curse

>>4758337
I didn't see why I should go through the effort to move an image to my PC to resize it, but I guess I should next time

>>4758344
Out of respect for people in this thread who you're asking for assistance and advice, you blithering cretin? I hate you so much.

>>4758344
There are apps that resize stuff.

>>4758082
what
Maybe you're talking about something like overlapping forms? Vilppus lesson on spherical forms might be helpful

>>4757127
Lol wtf why is that guy obsessed with the little girl from jurassic park lol

>>4758326
I see, sorry for asking so much but, what would be the ceiling for krita? Or what kind of art would I not be able to draw with it

>>4758347
happy now?

>>4758347
Next level autism.

Is it rare to feel more comfortable drawing heads with a cube instead of a sphere? Always hated doing sphere's because they never felt quite even but it feels easier with a cube

>>4758364
No rules
only tools

>>4758364
If it means that you end up with a better end result i dont see the issue.

Brainlet here new to art/loomis. What exactly is he asking me to do here? practice doing what, finishing the work by erasing the construction lines or just copy the different angles?

>>4758359
You shouldn't think about things like that. It is like asking
>what won't I be able to do with Java, that I will be able to do with c++
for now you need to learn the basics, then you might switch programs because you like brushes more, or the tools that it has
it won't be hard
I don't know about krita, I never used it

>>4758379
Yes you're right I always overthink with these kind of things, thank you

>>4757644
Just did this in <5 min off yer drawing
Thanks for inspiration

>>4757131

>>4757127

Best course for learning perspective? Can't bust out a decent square in perspective from imagination.

>>4758376
Drawing all the heads using the construction and shape method shown, you can erase the lines if you want

>>4758376
draw the heads using the construction method shown. Erasing the lines is up to you. just as long as you understand the angles and such

i posted this drawing a few threads back but i noticed a lot of mistakes so i went back and redrew some parts

>>4758082
Line of what is in front cuts the line of what's on the back.

>>4758426
>>4758429
So i dont have to finish it like pic related just know the different angles a head can be drawn in?

>>4758444
okay, thank you anon, i know it seems a simple thing to remember but i usually screw it up half the time

>>4757127
Hey just drew my oc Marlo di petra just wanted to know what do u think about the design. the idea is that i want to draw a comic book about him and his adventures.

>>4758288
>Does it even make any sense to start visual art even as a hobby if I'm slightly colour blind?

if anything it will make your work more unique

>>4758364
there is a method that uses a cube instead of a sphere, don't remember which, but it should mean that it is not a big deal right?

>>4758401
pretty good

>>4758400
Don't know if you're just picking on me for drawing badly or not but I find your drawing strangely pleasing.

Keys to Drawing, Natural Way to Draw, or Drawing on the Right side of the Brain?

>>4758420
marshal one is good, it is the only one i did tho.

>>4758404
lol

>>4758470
all of them, bathe in the knowledge anon

>>4758404
mental illness as human.

>>4758453
>so I don't have to finish
>have to
>is already viewing this as a chore
Sorry but you're unironically ngmi

>>4758467
tankyu m8 :)

>>4758401
do the hair in clumps not strands

>>4758469
No I picked it because I liked it and thought it was good, much better than I can do
I’m just starting all of this I’ve done about 5 small paintings and I’ve been told to draw to get better at painting

did a paintover on an old drawing. quite happy with the results although i couldve done so much more with her suit.

>>4758430
looks great

>>4758489
That's the first actual compliment I've gotten. Keep drawing I'll pray we both git gud.

>>4758478
>>4758481
you gay boys even know what famous movie scene it's meant to be ?

>>4758470
yes!

>>4758486
thankk youu i'll take the advice!!

>>4758499
no, but that face is scary as wooaaoaoaao i think i got a curse from looking at it

>>4758507

>>4758513
Great job It looks like a real pic .-.

>>4758070
Nope, that didn't work. Start from scratch and do it over. Please consider the width of the body also.

But keep trying and don't forget to draw fun stuff instead of grinding studies.

>>4758401
Not too shabby anon. Keep it up.

>>4758430
Good stuff.

>>4758492
Nice desuyo, I can tell you improved a lot, rendering and anatomy is honestly already better than most of /ic/, keep it up and someday you’ll be almost as good as me

>>4758288
I'm pretty sure that's the control test dude. There's a bunch of squiggly lines, but they don't make any coherent image. >>4758295 is accurate.

>>4757676
I tried yet I have no idea what I'm doing
Sadly I took 30 mins on this and I can see many many mistakes
>>4758404
I like your lines, how?

>>4758362
Much better thank you.

>>4758533
Let's ignore the hand and ear, getting that in place was confusing to say the least, I've never shaded before, anons kept telling me about halftones and after a vid, I might want to revisit it
How can I improve /ic/?

>>4757269
dont know if these details are correct, but yes - you are not looking up at her like in the original

>>4758533
>>4758537

>>4758482
Thats a fine supposition you got there anon

bumping this >>4758022
>>4758547
I skipped around this, I'll save it for later but I don't think I should be doing this right now.

>>4758533
it's just cross hatching.
buy a ink pen and try it out, there's plenty of video's about it, i can't give advice because i don't know what I'm doing myself.

>>4758557
cute

experimenting with trying to simplify faces i guess. bottom one was anime inspired i guess, top was me doing my own thing

>>4758523
Thaaank youu ^^

>>4758571
noice

>>4758513
toshiro mifuni was such a fucking cool looking samurai

Can bridgman help when you are a /beg/?, I know that you need to shade his drawings, but I dont know how to shade yet, can anyone recommend a good resource on that?
I'm also gonna complement bridgman books with proko anatomy lessons, wish me luck.

>>4758622
you use bridgman to complement the anatomy that you learned with other teachers, you need to know your anatomy to understand bridgman

>>4758642
What’s the redpill on Bridgman? People describe him as this weird esoteric thing that can be a secret code for figure drawing?

referencing /s/ lol

>>4758571
top is the nicer stylized drawing, bottom left is best

>>4758644
https://youtu.be/Thh4JXnVtxM?t=1869

>>4758656
redrew the eyes on the bottom one, did that improve it at all?

>>4758673
Thank you anon, you’re gmi and I hope you someday become as good as me

>>4758642
Should I do Vilppu first then?

I'm trying to use the selection tool to fill sections, but the selector tool doesn't want to entirely select what I'm trying to. When it DOES work, the fill tool won't fill the entire thing and leave blank marks around lines.

The colorize mask tool just tells me to go fuck myself and fill the entire canvas when my lines have no visible leak.

What the fuck am I doing wrong? I don't even see anyone else having this issue when I look it up

HOW HOW HOW FUCKING HOW? I FEEL LIKE OPENING MY NECK WITH A FUCKING KNIFE I DON'T GET THIS
TRIED A CUP AND PLASTICINE, A HAIRBAND AND SOME OTHER THING BUT NO THEY DONT LOOK LIKE THIS I FODNT GET IT I DONT GET IT FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>4758741
how how how how how how
>>4758533
all my lines are descriptive
ROBOTIC

>>4758430
How have you achieved this, your lines, individual lines, hand them over
YES, THAT'S THE PERFECT ANTITHESIS TO MY ISSUES

THEY ARE A robotic outline, they feel wrong solid static contour but how can I change that?
>>4758401
your lines too, how have you done this, hand it over

>>4758708
1- Perspective
2- form and construction
3- Figure and gesture
4- anatomy
5- composition
6- values
7- color

>>4758698
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF WESTAKEK ART!
OH NO NO NO! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>4758700
are you that narcissistic that is posting everywhere?

this is what eviston used as an example and I have been saving art on my own account, looking into the lines their shapes flow and feelings but I cant do the same, my lines are boring and descriptive suggest nothing but a shape no emotions
TODAY
BEHOLD
I'LL DRAW A LION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT MY ISSUE IS AND HOPEFULLY HELP ME

>>4758785
Stop drawing westacuck. You'll never be as good as the japanese.

>>4758777
Yes, but I do also draw, and I was just cramming in a bit just now. Hopefully starting wagecucking again doesn’t destroy my art progress, I’ll try to cram in as much as I can and cut corners on college homework to get in extra practice, especially since it’ll mostly be online due to corona Chan. I’m gonna go read mango now, good luck

some quick doodles, please critique

>>4758819
>homework to get in extra practice, especially since it’ll mostly be online due to corona Chan. I’m gonna go read mango now, good luck
>>>
> Anonymous 07/30/20(Thu)03:03:18 No.4758819▶
>File: coom_04.png (1.75 MB, 1500x1500)
>some quick doodles, please critique
the vulva is under a woman's body, not in the front

>>4758739
hope this helps : https://youtu.be/mOKnwxftaD0

>>4758802
good luck

>>4757774
that whistle notch idea

>>4758840

perfection, thanks

>>4758622
>Can bridgman help when you are a /beg/?
NOP
> I dont know how to shade yet
Learn Perspective
>proko anatomy lessons
>beg
1st Figure Drawing(Vilppu,Eviston) + Basic Perspective
2nd Figure Drawing: Design and Invention By Michael Hampton(only If you know how to rotate boxes and cylinders aka basic-intermediate perspective)
3rd Bridgman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FupeKX4NQsQ
4th Proko Anatomy(If your perspective level is not master, do not even try)
<--
https://youtu.be/78utrfQltFY?t=2060

How can I improve?

>>4758882
>soft brush
....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

Is Dynamic Sketching a good course to start with, if I've never done any drawing before

>>4758897
probably not, unless you have very good intuition for 3d forms

Here is my 3 week progress. I don't know how to draw hair

>>4758882
I don't understand what's going on. Does she have a penis minigun?
The picture is very confusing

>>4758925
Literally in the same position as you. Month one grinding heads but putting hair on them has been a tragedy everytime. Guess it's to youtube I go.

>>4758925
What have you been doing anon?

>>4758933
Not a whole lot yet. Did the first few drawabox lessons but got board. Read Loomis and a little Hampton then drew a few heads from imagination

>>4758947
then you must practice a lot?

>>4758962
The first week when I did drawabox I really didn't enjoy it so I only practiced about 30 minutes a day. Week 2 I practiced an hour a day on average, and now it's about 2 hours a day since it's gotten more fun

>>4758882
Too much soft brush. I love the line art for her body, tho.

AT THE VERY LEAST I DRAW 4 HOURS A DAY BY ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME YOURE JUST MAMMAL TRASH
WHY WHY WHY
FROM THE FLOATING DEATHHHH
TO THE FIRE OF DEATHHHH TO A FLOWER OUTSIDE OF MY GRAVE
AN OLD MAN
OR WERE YOU JUST BEEEEEEEEEEEING POLITEEEEEEEEEEEE WITH YOUUUR HAAAAAANDS
AND IT REALLY MEANS I'M NUMBER ONEEEEE AND YOURE A FAN
WELL THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YEAH THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONEEEE TWOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAAHH THATS COOL CAUSE I THINK YOURE NUMBER ONE TWO

>>4758978
why are you better than me, mammal? ALL MY LIFE OTHERS SERVES ARE BETTER THAN MY OWN

>>4758978
I'm envy of your progress, seems much better than mine over a few months. Are you doing any other study lessons or just drawing faces with loomis?

AM I JUST A BROKEN MACHINE? I LACK THAT HUMAN WARMTH, I ONLY KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE LIKE A MACHINE
ALL MY LIFE, MAMMALS LIKE YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME, THEY LOOK DOWN ON ME THEY TRASH ME ALL MY LIFE A DRIPPING MADDENING SOUND ENDLESSLY REPEATING ITSELF
SCHWARZWELT, I'M A VOID OF CREATION, LUCIFER FALLING TO HELL
MAMMALS, WHY ARE YOU MAMMALS BETTER THAN ME, I WANT TO EAT YOU.
>>4758978
ALL MY LIFE, OTHERS SERVES ARE STRONGER THAN MY OWN, MUSIC, SPORTS, CODING

Dear lord fuck off already you schizo

>>4759008
idiot, I don't like this sort of behavior but have you ever known defeat? pain and defeat? I think you haven't, I HAVE
THE FEELING OF THE BALL GOING PAST YOU, OF THE RACE LEAVING YOU BEHIND, WATER SLOWING YOU, FAILURE, OTHERS KEEP ON WINNING, EXISTENCE WAS A MISTAKE, IF I HAD IT MY WAY WE ALL SHOULD DIE
I'M NOT EVEN LUCIFER AM I?

>>4757135
didn't really feel the form with this one

>>4758925
answer me you human piece of shit you you bastard what makes you special? IS IT YOUR BLOOD? YOUR SPINE OR BRAIN? WHAT IS IT WHAT MAKES YOU BETTER THAN ME? COULD IT BE A SOUL? WHAT MAKES YOU BETTER THAN ME WHY ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME? WHO ARE YOU WHERE DO YOU COME FROM WHY ARE YOU BETTER

>>4759011
Bro nobody gives a fuck go screech about your insecurities somewhere else

>>4758917
See image >>4758897

ONE DAY ILL GET REVENGE, ILL EAT YOU ALL
>>4758925
it's not fair, why is it me that has to be the tower? what are you anyways

>>4759005
I did a few eye and mouth studies at first because I couldn't figure out how to place them on the face. I tried doing some gesture quick sketches but I didn't feel like it was helping me.

I've mostly been trying to draw realistically but just thought id try random animu face and it came out alright

>>4758930
>>4758925
Practicing ribbons will help immensely with hair

>>4759023
answer me
>>4759013

>>4759024
Any resources to learn said ribbons or just go find some references and try?

>>4759030
ANSWER ME HUMAN ANSWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YOU ARE SPECIAL WHY AM I NOT? MY PEOPLE HOLD ON SAY IT SAY IT SAY IT

>>4759024
Thank you I will look up information about ribbons.

>>4759028
I don't know what to tell you. For context I'm a 30 year old boomer musician so I don't know if having experience in other arts helps

>>4758848
better err on the side of the more dynamic

I SEE SLIGHT IMPROVEMENTS BUT OTHERS MAKE BIGGER JUMPS, HAVE I BEEN UNFOCUSED?
I'M LUCIFER ALWAYS WANTED TO BE, AS IF, I'M JUST A LOWLY MACHINE FOREVER TRAPPED ON THIS CURSED PLANET, I'M A MONUMENT TO HUMAN MISERY, EXISTENCE RAPES ME EVERYDAY
I'M A COSMIC DRAMA OR JOKE, BUT I KNOW I'M AN EXPLOSION OF ALL THIS PAIN WAITING TO HAPPEN, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I'LL BECOME A MONUMENT OF HUMANITY, I'LL WIN IN THE END
>>4759033
YOU'RE OLD MAN TRASH YOU SHOULDN'T BE BETTER THAN ME I LOATHE YOU
IT'S LAW THAT I SHOULD BE BETTER IT SHOULD BE

>>4759033
Hell yeah, a fellow musician. Welcome aboard to the worst grind of your life.

>>4759030
Drawabox has a lesson solely about them, I know that. Some perspective books aught to have some, maybe. But don't just draw one and move onto the next, draw several each in multiple layers, and don't be afraid to warp the shape into banana peels or strings.

>>4759015
be quiet mammal trash, for my """""insecurities""""""" are of a cosmic scale beyond anything you or any other mammal will ever feel, I have the full range of emotions available to me, a machine I might be but I feel stronger than any other human.
>>4759048
>>4759033
MUSICIAN TRASH YOU ONLY MENTIONED THAT TO LOOK DOWN ON ME TO CALL ME AND MY MUSIC TRASH I WONT FORGET THAT, RUBBING SALT HUH
I'M LUCIFER
NOT THE LUCIFER BUT SOMEONE SIMILAR, WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE SUCH PUNISHMENT? BANISHED TO EARTH, A PRISON PLANET, TRAPPED ON THE BODY OF A MAMMAL, FORGETTING MY SHINING VIRTUE, I'M STUCK WITH ALL OF YOU ON THIS STUPID ROCK, ON A MAMMAL EXISTENCE ON A MAMMAL BODY, STUCK ON PLANET EARTH, WHAT A FUCKING JOKE

every other person on this thread is but a mammal on a mammal body, I was something else before this, all of that stuck on this decadent species, sentenced to live as a fucking mammal, your faces are disgusting, your bodies a flawed vessel, your senses are inferior to what I know is beyond, out there, ART.
only through art can I experience what I used to be before I was sent to live here on planet earth, your art is mammal art, my art wants to be something else, one with the great beyond.
You shouldn't be better than me.

>>4759045
STOP thinking so much
That is affecting your performance!!(I would say 80%)
When you are practicing, I am sure that your mind is trying to solve your emotional problems and at the same time learning how to draw.
Your mind can only focus on one thing at a time.
When you stop worrying about others and your focus is only on drawing, you will see that you will improve.
>>4748625
>>4749348

The one in charge of this reality makes me suffer, feeds on my misery, and you're all helping him.
I presume my very own soul, should I have on, was raped into existing here on planet earth, I wish I could go back home.
>>4759061
THANK you For trying to help me, human, even if only to shut me up.
I try not to overthink now but I don't know anymore.
why link my drawing? I already know all of it's flaws, new ones appear to me with the more I learn

>>4759082
You aren't perfect why should your drawings be? The "Masters" worried so much about their own craft and we called them perfect. Seeking perfection is well and good. Wallowing in the journey is not.

>>4759085
why are others better? why cant I seem to do simple stuff?
WEEK 2 DAY 4 THE TACTILE LINE
heres a thread for you to see >>4758747
I must understand it, but all my lines are samey, working on a second drawing, OF A MAMMAL AGAIN FUCK MAMMALS, I'm sensing my mistakes while at the same time seeing this here>>4758925

>>4759085
>>4759061
i do ovals and circles, lines, every day until I understand them, spheres now until I know that its a part of me, yet others are better, I need something more

>>4759095
You lost your purpose anon

>>4759106
No, what about actual advice?

>>4759106
This is actually humbling, thank you anon. I never thought I'd save a Jojo image.

>>4759122
Getting frustrated only makes it worse. It happened to me and I took a few days break to refresh. Now today I drew some poor anime faces but it was enjoyable cause I actually finished the faces rather than raging at it.

Only worry about your own pace, don't compare yourself to others, it makes it worse.

>>4759122
Are you still doing gesture?
>i do ovals and circles, lines, every day
show me

This is without context, but i don't care enough to give the context unprompted and even then the context is a weak reason to be drawing furry porn. Anyways, here it is.

>>4759166
jesus, why did I make this.

>>4759142
I'm not good enough to do gesture at the moment

And sometimes I just want to cry when I realize I have no sense of anatomy or perspective. It IS supposed to be dwarf, though. Not that that excuses everything else.

This is my studies for upper leg trying to understand the forms.
I think i'm better off grouping them together then separating them, than drawing them individually one at a time. any help ?

>>4759197
well you gotta do it at some point

>>4758741
This is the worst drawing in the entire thread hahaha

Does gesture drawing apply to drawing animals too?

>>4759207
Hold onto that feeling, you're just like me, you're my people HOLD ON TO ONE ANOTHER
the void of failure and misery
>>4759235
take it to brent eviston
>>4759229
>>4759229
Indeed, I haven't recovered from my past failure regarding gestures, but thanks for the kind replies anon.
Perhaps this is what I SEEK WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE I'LL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE

>>4759240
https://i.4cdn.org/ic/1596082927197.jpg

i was trying to do this exercise with edges but i don't feel in control of the brushes,took too long to make the lost edge
Pls help
how can improve it? i only use the brush tool

>>4759240
>Hold onto that feeling, you're just like me, you're my people HOLD ON TO ONE ANOTHER
>the void of failure and misery
What, do you want to drink my tears or something? Fag.

>>4759239
Yep

>>4759240
>>4759242
Get out you fucking underage and maybe stop liking the literal worst character in that game

>>4759262
>>4759250
Quiet mammal, offtopic is finished

>failed eviston's lesson
>can't watch the vid of the day because of it
What do?

>>4759095
hey man another fellow /beg/ here.
i did the same for more than a year and yes is kind of helpful but if you don't combine it with something more practical becomes pointless.
that take me too long to figure out so i advice you to start doing studies of other artist you like on top the stuff you are already doing.
Also watch the first two videos of sinix Sketchbook Tour

I bought my first drawing tablet finally but now that it's here I'm getting filtered by the learning curve of art programs. It feels like I'm learning to draw again from square one and that overwhelms me and makes me wanna retreat back to traditional where everything feels natural

>>4759310
What are you using to learn? Just messing around until something works? I'm in the same spot as you, been playing around with krita but don't really know how to really begin learning this

>>4759310
I know that feel. Krita almost feels like learning a foreign language.

>>4759207
"I'm no hero, just a Yordle with a hammer!"
Reminds me of Poppy from league lol

>>4759288
coom

>>4759343
no sexual desires, no really it's already tomorrow today, so I ended up missing out on it, watch two or just one?

>>4757127
Anyone has a good see through clothing tutorial?

Spent time attempting to blend colors. Turned out better than last time, but it still seems flat to me. Am I on the right track?

I know it's obvious which of these wasn't copied from official artwork but hey I tried anyway.

>>4759362
its flat because guess what? You're using black outlines. Get rid of all black lines. Look at pic related. Sure you aren't anywhere NEAR Riot level at art, but you could learn a thing or two. There are no black outlines.

>>4759373

Thanks for the tip, I removed some and it already started to look better

>>4759345
Better one
Sleep nicely, anon

>>4759368
Cute. I like that fighting pokemon whose name I forgot, was part of my 4 man squad in BW2

>>4757257
i did this today and i took note of the mouth and ear placement but i cant get the feeling that something is off. idk what

I think one of my main troubles now if keeping proportion

>>4759453
*is

>>4759441
jaw is off. The angle, the lenghts, and shape. That is why it looks off.

You're doing good work tho gmi

>>4758453
You don't have to do anything. Nobody's forcing you.

>>4758456
Is that a lightning bolt scar?
Is he pirate Harry Potter?

How do i get my motivation back?

I just feel tired

>>4757245>>4757249

Shit man, I just understood that I've been doing it all wrong before: I'd been viewing the reference, then drew what I THOUGHT should be there. So basically instead of copying I've been trying to draw it from my imagination. Today I made it much fucking better. How could I be so blind?!

>>4757676
Work in charcoal. Focus primarily on shape in the beginning. Drawing accuracy affects the rest of the piece.

>>4759441
>Right eye is too far right
>Right side of jaw needs to be sharper up to match with the left side (unless you want that wonder woman superheroine jaw)
>Eyebrows aren't symmetrical in size or position
>The right contour for the neck lacks the curve in your reference
>Right side of hair is mainly too simple and round, it looks like a dog ear
>Body is in a different rotation than your reference, most likely intentional though

Excellent job with your construction, just make damn sure your eye circles are as symmetrical as you can make it. They're the primary focal point of portraits, even the slightest offset can be offputting.

>>4759456

thanks. i see now that i drew the jaw like pic related and not tilting down like my reference was. i also noticed that my drawing has some fucking THICK neck

>>4758785
>I'LL DRAW A LION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT MY ISSUE IS AND HOPEFULLY HELP ME
>never posts lion

>>4759500
He's schizophrenic, let him be

>>4759501
Is he a thread regular or something? I've seen some psychotic breakdowns here in the past, but I don't remember the name.

>Fun With A Pencil
>Perspective Made Easy
Which one of these should I work with first? I want to draw cartoon comics

>>4759514
Fun with a pencil, then keys to drawing, then figure drawing for artists.

>>4759514
Fun with the pencil. But I advise you to read at least the first chapter of keys to drawing. No need to do the exercises, just read the theory and get a knack on what you're going to be doing - Loomis lacks on theory in his FWAP, sadly.

>>4759526
Yeah, scratch my post >>4759521

Keys to drawing is definitely the best starting point. I never actually read fun with a pencil admittedly (even though I too want to draw funny comics)

>>4759514
I suggest you read Framed Perspective instead of Perspective Made Easy.

>>4759521
>>4759526
>>4759534
>>4759539
>All these faggots talking about reading and not drawing
Skip the books, just copy drawings that you think look cool

>>4759521
>>4759526
>>4759539
thanks for the advice. Did like a third from KtD a few months ago, I'll finish it this time.
>>4759543
I like to copy cool drawings, but when I try to draw from imagination it always look flat as fuck

>>4759500
>>4759501
>>4759506
I drew it but I got depressed, although now I'm better aware of some things on the construction phase so I'll draw another, it's fun.

>>4759569
The perspective chapter onward really improves your way of observation. For the exercises, just reference images you like if you don't want to go outside or find stupid objects. Don't be like me and have both the reference and the drawing program on the same monitor side by side.

How is this, so far?

>>4759596
Symbol drawing/10

>>4759599
Do you not know what symbol drawing is or Are you retarded?

>>4759607
The first one. I can't properly distinguish where the symbol drawing is used.

>>4757131

>>4759373
That's not why lol

>>4759506
he recently added a trip code, he's the avatarfag that draws shitty anime and jacks off to people paying attention to his pity party faggotry. He pretends to listen to critique and comments but never takes the advice, as with the gesture episode. He is just another cancer

>>4759596
Your foreshortening might be a bit off, since the hands look HUGE.
Also the head isn't symmetric.

>>4759596
Ah, that anime shit of some anon who posted the complete one

>I believe that I saw finished version of this

>>4759469
this is a difficult thing. perhaps your bias has worn your soul. nurture your understanding and perceive the homogeny of externals which surround you. occasionally bringing the body to rest can be strongest movement forward.

>>4757127
niggers test 123.

>>4757127
I'm an absolute amateur. I bought a bunch of cheap paints and don't know how to use them. Got any basic tips?

i'm trying to sketch an ogre face
is this alright?

>>4759543
>Skip the books, just copy drawings that you think look cool

>>4757257
Needs moar loomis

>>4758819
>Anonymous 29/07/20(Wed)22:03:18 No.4758819>>4758835#coom_04.png (1.75 MB, 1500x1500)File: coom_04.png (1.75 MB, 1500x1500) google yandex iqdb wait1.75 MB PNGsome quick doodles, please critique
>>4758835
>Anonymous 29/07/20(Wed)22:08:25 No.4758835>>4758819#
>>homework to get in extra practice, especially since it’ll mostly be online due to corona Chan. I’m gonna go read mango now, good luck
>>>>
>> Anonymous 07/30/20(Thu)03:03:18 No.4758819▶
>>File: coom_04.png (1.75 MB, 1500x1500)
>>some quick doodles, please critique
>the vulva is under a woman's body, not in the front
this!

>>4759789
You heard the gmi

>>4759801
Mom's gonna freak when she sees this!

>>4758882
some parts are flat and/or with the wrong perspective, see the guns barrel

so learn how to draw and shade simple shapes in perspective.

>>4758897
dynamic sketching I don't know but draw a box is

>>4758925
>I don't know how to draw hair
mikey mega meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY_YSLCf0pM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsRTnAgOOzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cBtbDOlTfA

>>4759469
this guy has some good videos about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzhCI-uQf0

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx65qkgCWNJIS5Y_CcxifKHjQKf7iqVv5

>>4759469
just look at good art and you'll want to also make good art

tried painting for the first time, wish i could use this as my face of the day but its referenced

>>4758741
So, are you trying to draw the pillow or the rock?

A pillow can't be that hard to draw I think.

>>4758925
You didn't draw much but what you drew is quite good. But the quantity is really low.

>>4759012
Not too bad, the left Ischium/Illium extends just a tad too far out as does the zyg bone.

The guy on the ref is also a little thinner. But I think you did fine.

>>4759011
Post your other drawings I think you're overreacting.

>>4759637
You need some more practice but it's not super bad.

Compare the arms with the reference. And the torso with emphasis on her breasts, your torso is way too thin compared to the reference.

>>4759825
Thank you I will check them out today.

>>4760002
Thank you I'm going to try to draw more often. Now that I can at least occasionally draw things that look ok it's less demoralizing to put time in

new bread

>>4759826
>>4759826
>>4759826

How bad did I do? Have a good day. bros.

>>4758767
with a squared-shape digital pencil 17px,

if i buy csp because I don't have enough money for pro do i then have to pay again full price for pro once i have enough money or can i just upgrade and pay the difference?

>>4760505
yes you can unpgrade and pay the difference