/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4699267
no

>>4699267
>Stop making stuff people like

>>4699267
yeah: fat tits are the plebbest, more mainstream fetish ever. there should be more hot flat chested young girls in art

>>4699267
Man i wish these whores would shut the fuck up already, they don't even consume what they want to be changed and end up making everything worse for other women.

>>4699267
Slide thread.

>Written by Noah Bradley

Man, what a great punchline. This is hilarious, OP!

>>4699285
Right? It's always the ones who are the most vocal about how woke they are that turn out to be the worst.

No. Our creations our ours alone. We are simply holding women to the standards that they should be held to. We do not objectify them, for they already are objects, and should get off the Internet and wash the damn dishes.

Nice reveal at the end

CONTEXT:
the fag that wrote this is aggressive with persuing chicks,
admits it, loses MtG illustration job and banned from artstation, draws mostly souless impressionist landscapes, the few characters he does draw are mostly men, or a few 'perfect' women. didn't have a dog in the fight to begin with and is still a piece of shit.

>>4699267
Artists are visual thinkers. These people have dedicated their entire careers to coming up with the most interesting looking characters, props, shapes, compositions, etc. Moreover, the success of their product is literally measured by how appealing it is to the audience that consumes it. So can you really blame artists for trying to achieve maximum visual appeal?

In the same way that there's room for both sexualized pop music and underground indie math rock, I think that there's room for both Sakimichan's pin ups and Even Amundsen's wrinkly old grandmas.

Strongly disagree.

>>4699267
now thats ironic

>>4699299
Thanks for showing that they are not exaggerating

>>4699280
Are you retarded or do you just not know what male names are

When did he write this? Lmao

>>4699267
>Some guy virtue signalling about respecting women.
At this point it would be faster if these types just had Pre Registered Sex Offender under their names.

>>4699454
wow, what a faggy way to advertise your twitter account. you even deleted the tweet lmao

>>4699267
Lol who fucking cares, there's plenty of art, sci fi and otherwise, that portrays women more realistically. There are markets for both ends of the spectrum and everything in between. Completely irrelevant.

>>4699561

Nah bro, it's still up.

SJWs are so annoying that they made me stop hating impractical bikini armors.

Maybe it's all an inside job by coomers to swing the pendulum!

>>4699267
What do Americans have against boobs, literally no other piece of anatomy seem to trigger puritans and sjws alike like a fat rack.

>>4699298

Patton Oswalt can be annoying sometimes but for once he was completely correct.

>>4699267
im sure there are people already doing this, it just doesnt get attention because women suck and people prefer fake women.

>>4699454
Kek

>>4699454
lol, he turned into a punching bag, whatever he says he's already fucked, any retard can piggyback on him now

>>4699454
God the amount of cringe... you’re a fucking loser LMAO I took a minute to look at your account and you replying “nah” to petitions that you weren’t even tagged in is peak cringe. AND you’re a weeb? AND your art sucks? Pick a struggle

>>4699267
Yes, I agree.

>>4699267
>Noah Bradley
Opinion discarded

>>4699603

Yes.

>>4699267
>172 CLAPS

>>4699267
>best fantasy is based on reality

Fucking LMAO, kill this stupid simp.

>>4699267
>That kino punchline at the end

>>4699267
Not in the slightest.
>don't paint women
They're not real, they are not people, they are characters.
>women are rare in fantasy & sci-fi
Then make that which you want to see instead of judging and restricting expression.
>it's our fault
No, women themselves do it to themselves in real life every chance they get, a man doing it with a character once in a while is nothing compared to what women do in every day life.
>you can blame society
There is no BLAME, but if there were it would be on women, because they brougth that into society, when things were more run by men, character were expected to be more modest.
>let's be honest there's more variety in male body types than female
No there isn't men just don't pissy about being reminded that they are ugly or fat.
>we can do better than this
Do it yourself, just like anybody that agrees with you can and nothing is stopping them, this is an indirect call for censorship, where everybody that doesn't go along with these rules is going to get backlash, judgement and blacklisted, because it's been established that it's the right thing to do, so anybody that doesn't' do the right thing is in the wrong.
Nothing stops anyone from doing anything they want in art, so this letter is not about what people can do but what shouldn't do.
A list of things an artist shouldn't do creatively and not technically is just being a repressive censor.

>>4699267
Ew no. Women are some of the most disgusting creatures on earth. I despise what women look like and true beauty can only be captured by exaggerating through art. Men are barely and better. They can only get away with it irl because they have really nice jaws and shoulders and pecs alot of the time but other than that the human form is just fucking horrifically ugly.

>>4699752
Faggot detected

>>4699831
Either that or a seething f*moid. You can never tell with this board anymore.

It depends entirely on the tone/setting of each character, if you're going for gritty realism probably have some variety, if it's not then you can get more fantasy with it. 2B would look out of place in cod, but her design is fine for nier. But of course you can draw hot girls if you want.

>>4699267
I agree that variety in female characters is lacking.
Not as a statement. As a missed opportunity.

>>4699454
Noah Bradley is kind of cringe, you are peak god cringe. I love how virtue signaling losers are lower than dirt in your opinion but you constantly virtue signal for conservative talking points.

anti-SJW cliché

>written by Noah Bradley

>>4699267
Didn't read. I paint them like I want.

I just know one thing: If I draw them without butts and boobs I will be cancelled for pedo leanings.

Did he really get banned from artstation? wew

>>4699267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc

>>4700080

Bro I've just been running around on Twitter throwing shade at randoms it's fun as fuck lol especially with all the shit going down in States

>>4699267
Conflicted. On one hand, drama is against the rules. On the other, this is hilarious to read.

He literally isn't wrong, though? Like, if you "fucking love women" so much... actually look at one!
Just because he had some skeletons in his closet doesn't mean we should disregard everything he says altogether. Or maybe you're just salty he struck a nerve because "art" like this is all you're capable of.

>>4701356
Bruh, I just want to draw loli. But foids sperg at that shit even harder. So at this point, I just draw big tiddie bimbos out of pure spite. They want to put chains on my neck and wrists and stop me from drawing my true love, then that’s the consequence.

>>4699573
This is pretty good. Who's the artist?

>>4699573
Because the women either lack the rack or they ha e a waist bigger then their rack.
>You need to find me attractive,because I do t want to put in the effort to be attractive

That same of dfc could be said. Then there's a chance of being screeched at for being a "pedo" or "in denial of being gay"


Long story short cows hate being reminded theyre cows and no one wants to do them.

>>4701356
Sure. "Character design is good" isn't really a controversial statement on its own. He's just framing it as some grand political gesture, and being condescending as fuck about it. And a massive hypocrite too, of course.
If this is something you actually want to promote, you'll have to make a better argument than him. Shouldn't be hard.

>>4701356
Bold of you to assume that just because we draw appealing women that we actually love women. We like how we think they look and what the top 10% look, not how they actually look nor what they think.

>>4701480
Based

>>4699285

>Written by Noah Bradley

I didn't even read it because the first paragraph was too insufferable so I missed that. Fucking hilarious.

>>4701356
Hot damn. Blog?

>>4701356
>He literally isn't wrong, though? Like, if you "fucking love women" so much... actually look at one!

Stfu you silly jackass. Nobody wants to look at ugly women in paintings. Frazetta was a better artist than you or Noah will ever be, and he already settled this argument.

>>4701507
Well, he also painted his female figures with cellulite and tummies that weren't perfectly flat. In theory the "were are her organs" crowd should love him

>>4699267
>written by noah
Oh no no no, he tried it
Hahahhahahahaha

>>4699631
Based

>>4701485
is this real?!

Nature generates enough abysmal looking people. Man generates abysmal looking tools and infrastructure that are an eyesore but useful.

A stop sign is not beautiful. Traffic is not beautiful. Disease, data, mathematics, school, the news, 99% of life is not beautiful.

Taking a shit is not beautiful. In fact it is quite the opposite, the lurched posture, the exiting of the excrement, the excrement itself, the smell, the color, all of this suggests "usefulness". It is useful to exude excrement. Sort of rolls of the tongue, no?

Instead of trying to convince you what is beautiful, and the what is beautiful is quite worth it, (I would argue it is both opiate and meaning giver to the intellectual) I am going to elaborate on that excrement analogy. 4chan doesn't deserve beauty, it deserves excrement.

Now let us shuffle and sort through the very pearls of excrement: The seven sins. What exactly is a sin? No I’m not going to preach about how your “soul” or the afterlife, I’m talking extremely specifically about the sin of poor taste that can darken any millionaire, any success story, any person, any (you). All sin is, is the grotesque, vile, putrid, horrifying, ugly, shit, cum, blood, bodily urges insisting that it is somehow more than what it is. That in its usefulness, there lies a strange “beauty”. To suggest that something mundane created exactly for its usefulness is somehow beautiful (an iPhone, a toilet, pipes, traffic lights etc) is an example of your basic plebeian observation.

>>4701599

Lust. Hentai. pornography, a means to an end, masturbation, a pull and a release. Mindy Tankers, a porn star I just made up, Knows why she’s there. We all know why she’s there. Is she there to be beautiful? Or to satisfy a need? There’s tasteful nudity, and there’s twenty dicks in your mouth. Which do I prefer? That depends. Is it 2am or 2pm?

Frankly, the degeneration of a sweet nice girl into an object pumped full of bodily fluid for money is a sad state of affairs. The life of a lust inducer is quite sad, and free from any glory or pride. I like to imagine my favorite porn star with her huge honkers and generous backside flossed by black lingerie peering into the night sky, staring at the moon, and wondering, “I wonder what my life would have been otherwise? Am I a victim of circumstance or was I always destined to be this way?” And in that quiet sad reflection, there i believe, lies a solemn and sad beauty.

Greed. Money is good, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. but a love of money in itself? is the paper currency itself beautiful? Is buying onions beautiful? is the flow and interconnection of macro economics beautiful? to be continued

>>4701604
>>4701599
Tldr

stop replying to bait threads

>>4699267
lolnope

>>4701507

Frazetta gets a pass because his male characters are just as exaggerated and extreme.

>>4701485
I cannot interpret this diagram.

>>4699267
didnt this fag get cancelled recently? is this his public penance ritual or some shit? PC cultists are fucking cringe

>>4699267
I don't listen to communist

>>4699267
>Not from the feminist angle but this is crass, vulgar and it looks like shit. Personally, I think small breasts like a B cup look more gracef-
>AHHHHH!!!! HE LIKES SMALL TITS!!!! SEIZE THIS DEGENERATE!
Fucking milk mafia, I swear

>>4701507
Frazetta's women looked actually good tho, they weren't oiled up anime thots with inflated balloons and a toddler head

>>4702110
No that's just a "male power fantasy"

>>4699267
I don't want to paint real people. I don't even LIKE real people. Let alone the female ones. I'm going to paint my ideals and I'm not going to give a shit about what other people say. If you tell me to stop, I'll do it even harder, and if you try to force me to stop, I'm going to start killing people until I get taken down.

>>4702239
>and if you try to force me to stop, I'm going to start killing people
you weeaboofaggots are already murdering my soul with your shit, please make it end

>>4702219

When are people going to accept that idealizing male and female bodies in the same way causes inherent differences in perception.

A rippling muscle-bound barbarian in a loincloth will be perceived as powerful and intimidating, but a woman in the same state will be perceived sexually. That's not the artist's fault. It's just human nature.

And if you try to sexualize a man in the same way you sexualize a woman, then it just looks gay.

>>4699573
bloggu?

>>4702249
That's from Yves Balak idiot

>>4699267
So Americans communists are forbidding people on the Internet to draw from imagination and instead draw characters that look like the average/ugly people you see in real life?

>>4702239
based
>>4702242
cope

Don't most comics have tranny women tho? Like most of these women don't even look feminine.

>>4702111
pads

How am I supposed to know how to paint women if they won't even look at me?

>>4702349
Anything that could be appealing to a straight dude s considered sexist and demeaning, whereas everything that's repulsive and butt ugly is considered "liberating" and empowering by them.
It's fucked six ways to Sunday and everyone is affected, American or not.

>All women have to be strong, powerful, independent, perfect and also not threatening to my own self image

>>4699285
I burst out laughing when I saw that

>>4699267
I agree about monotonous ideal and exchangeability, at least. It's especially apparent in the overrendered, slack jawed supermodels in chink and gook promo art. You keep having a feeling you've seen this character 500000 times before
>>4699277
Based but the author was against young girls so you two aren't in agreement either

>>4699484
Yikes! It’s very offensive for you to apply sexes to names, which are social constructs.

>And it's our fault. It's our fault for treating women like this.

>>4702247
That's why you just make the barbarian sexy with a nice looking face and not doing some angry/retarded snarl.
Make him look more like the men you see in romance novel covers and it'll convey a different message. It definitely is the artist's fault if they can only portray him as inherently intimidating.

>>4701599
>data, mathematics, school is not beautiful
You take that back you frikin frik

>You can paint Women. The way they are.
Caked in makeup?

>>4705044
And they call it a natural look lol
*hardly any

>>4705044
Yes

>>4701599
Actually there's extensive research that shows the "average" person of either gender is considered attractive.