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Anonymous Mon Jun 22 21:47:23 2020 No.4670974 [Reply] [Original]

I am tired of being a shitter and seeing crappy drawings all the time. I need to see real results instead of drifting through hundreds of shitty pictures just to get to slightly less shitty pictures. How should I train to see fast improvement? I don't care about burning out because I don't even feel the desire to draw anymore. What I mean by that is I lack aim and I know that I am not improving the way where I could be satisfied, so it's better to do less enjoyable, harder work with the promise of guaranteed success. It's either that or I just stop drawing altogether.

There's also the thing about drawing a lot of hours, I just simply can't at the moment. I've been living a sedentary lifestyle for my whole life and I can see my body being ruined by that, so I've started lifting and doing cardio a lot recently. I don't want to sit at the computer for 8 hours, damaging my eyes, my wrists and making myself weak, I have been doing that for too long now.

So I need to work in a way that I can draw for 4 hours a day and still progress, work smart not hard etc. and then spend the rest on physical exercise or just having a job. I don't want to give up on drawing even though it would be easier but at the same time I see that I am going nowhere with this and I have to function in a different way.
I made the thread again to adress this specific point since it's important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 21:49:45 2020 No.4670978 why it get delete?

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Anonymous Mon Jun 22 21:51:37 2020 No.4670980
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Someone posted a really fucking helpful reply here, you didn't have to delete the fucking thread.

Here's what I remember:
70% studies - 30% imaginative work
for advanced artists
80% studies - 20% imaginative work
for less advanced.

The more advanced you get the greater the percentage grows for imaginative work.

I was going to reply to you anon. Fuck.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about the percentage of studies to imaginative work that one should be doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 21:56:06 2020 No.4670987 >>4670980 Go to warosu and copy the post you're talking about and then paste it in here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 21:58:20 2020 No.4670993 >>4670987 I remembered it. I put the post in my comment. Just a little pissed at OP lol. Couldn't give him a (you)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:43:55 2020 No.4671052 File: 291 KB, 530x428, 2016 - 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I do not want to study.

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Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:07:19 2020 No.4671080
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>>4670980
> 70% studies - 30% imaginative work
for advanced artists
>80% studies - 20% imaginative work
for less advanced
How advanced is “advanced”? How would you rate this in terms of technical skill?

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Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:20:28 2020 No.4671108

>>4670980
Not OP, but I made an unconscious transition from studies to more imaginative drawings >>4631374

I was doing studies at the beginning because it was easy and I could turn my brain off, but I only recently tried to do more from reference since sometimes I want to make something that doesn’t exist. Just draw what you think is the most fun.

>>4670974
> I can draw for 4 hours a day
I used to draw for 3-4hrs a day 3-4 days a week for roughly 3-4 yrs. Took a break for a couple years, and now draw 5-6hrs a day 5-6 days a week. Enjoy the journey not the destination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:43:04 2020 No.4671133 >>4670974 The irony, posting OPM, made by an artist who didn't give a fuck about his skills and drew what he wanted because he enjoyed it. Just stop drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:59:00 2020 No.4671160 >>4671133 Yeah but it was a really talented mangaka who took it to another level, its the same guy from eyeshied21 i think

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:08:39 2020 No.4671168 File: 423 KB, 858x410, 1_IOMCSSedDjqU2Px-WAZ1Tw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4671160 His other manga got popular without murata.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:34:27 2020 No.4671198 >>4671080 Think of advanced as knowing all fundamentals and consistently able to self correct what you draw intuitively.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:51:36 2020 No.4671206 >>4671133 Realistically speaking there are very few people alive who would enjoy drawing something on the level of the original One Punch Man without being autistic and even then I am not sure if ONE isn't actually autistic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 01:01:24 2020 No.4671219 File: 38 KB, 600x340, d61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4671206 It's not that bad. He draws better than me.

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Anonymous Tue Jun 23 01:06:45 2020 No.4671224

>>4671080
If you have a problem with recalling things or just building stuff from imagination, then do more studies in the desired area. If I remember correctly, you should work on your flaws but the true test of your abilities is not when you draw things in isolation like arms, it's when you want to make a full-fledged illustration

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:29:15 2020 No.4672317 >>4671052 GMI

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 11:40:44 2020 No.4674293 >>4671168 this, the webcomic got a remake because it was too popular

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Anonymous Wed Jun 24 12:07:43 2020 No.4674343
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>Draw daily between 4 to 6 hours
>Do studies
>Do memory drawing
>Try to deconstruct other works and rotate
>Still fail miserably at everything and unable to improve at all
For some reason I'm so terrible that it trascends common and uncommon sense and the very nature of human learning, this shouldn't be possible yet here I am. I won't ever give up but I really want to stop being lost and stop being subhuman altogether.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 12:20:04 2020 No.4674364 >>4674343 Pyw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 14:35:40 2020 No.4674636 >>4674343 Either you are really bad or you haven't done it enough times. How many months have you been drawing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 14:52:16 2020 No.4674696 File: 21 KB, 622x114, tip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4670980

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Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:41:12 2020 No.4675960

I always progressed really well with what's been memed as "the shrimp method" because of one tutorial.
>draw from imagination
>compare it to ref
>redraw it from ref
I find that doing it from imagination first lets you realize what you do wrong better than blindly copying. But I'm not sure if that's the best method with less available time, depending on if your art takes long or not.