/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

arte these threads worth my life spam?

What went wrong with your life such that you ended up being a disgusting weeaboo?

>>4633575
Parental abuse and being touch starved

really couldnt figure out what brushes to use to make it look like the left in csp or photoshop. Help would be appreciated

>>4633565
is this a female baldwin iv?

>>4633565
Good work! Love your lines. She is a robot or alien, or something else? Didn't see that character before

>>4633594
no no anon , that's not my work just wanted to post it as inspo

heres the artits but hes dead
https://twitter.com/HyerMeh

>>4633606
thats... thats too bad. thats really sad.

>>4633594
>>4633606
I found the pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/13646164

knew it was Baldwin iv of jerusalem
when you said he died, did you mean literally or did he just quit

>>4633615
>>4633620
wtf i didnt mean it for real, he or she just stopped posting on twitter for all i know

>>4633547
where can I find more character design sheets like these?

>>4633565
>>4633606
nice artist, I'm trying to color the version without the mask

>>4633786
not him but that one is from Lack's artbook
https://exhentai.org/g/1589798/3243fbd4fd/

>>4633575
No ambition, no goals. If I died to morrow my crowning achievement is being a no name, mediocre, wanna-be Chinese cartoon butt drawer. Do you think my ancestors would be proud?

>>4633583
Holy shit you have some good art. How long have you been drawing?

>>4633581
Same

>>4633919
I think I chose the colors poorly, maybe I'll try again tomorrow

>>4633581
I wasn't abused but touch starvation is spot on.

>>4633919
>>4634152
On preview it looks like she is facepalming.

>>4633919
>>4634152
I think you need to make the lips longer in the color version, the pink part, otherwise her mouth looks way too small. In the black and white version your brain fills in that detail itself.

>>4633575
Some say Im gay, others think its the autism. Personal opinion? I'm just based like that.

>>4634098
f...... fifteen years

>>4634337
Ganbare, boomer.

>>4633583
Looks like a normal pen brush to me

>>4633547
Don't copy anime, learn to draw from a reference first.

>>4634423
anime is a reference. checkmate

>>4633583
Try drawing on a bigger canvas, and cleaning up your lines more and some more confident strokes.

When you decrease the resolution of a big canvas some small mistakes could me lost but it requires generally clean work to begin with

>>4631462
here's the eye guide. the more i worked on it, the more it retarded and obvious it sounded. there's still more i could've expanded on, but this what you need to know.

>>4633919
what brushes are you using, anon?

>>4634635
some slightly obvious stuff, but good guide on underappreciated/underdiscussed part of eyes

>>4634635
That was actually extremely helpful anon thank you

>>4633560
you're not worth anything to anyone or anything.

I was thinking about creating a discord for the good people here who post studies and give constructive feedback. What do you guys think?

The only difference is that I'd ban retards trolling on sight and after getting like 10 or so people I'd close invitations.

I think it would be better this way because receiving bad crit or crit from people of a low skill level could be really misleading. So at the very least you'll be able to see the work from the guy who crits you. And meh, the intent is also to make friends and have good people pursuing the same goal to help each other and support each other, I know that even if we're bad, with diligent studies every day we can get better, so no matter your skill level, if you're a good person, you'll be welcome.

>>4634967
If jeanne anon and gmi anon entered I think it would be enough for me desu, I know both of them are good, hardworking individuals.

>>4634967
How good do the people need to be to join?

anyway, practice for today.
tried to move the head's angle and failed.

>>4634967
youve got a good head about it, so i think something like that could really help people and actually work.

>>4634967
I'd join

>>4634967
How many times have you said this now?

>>4635078
3 I think, but here is the link though.

https://discord.gg/TRaV2J

I'm thinking of maybe creating a text channel for each user to serve as their sketchbook too, but I don't know. Let's see if people join in we can discuss.

>>4635001
As I said, any skill level is good if you're a good person and dedicated. I'm not that good too and I have a bunch of things happening in my life right now, but I try to draw every day.

The only thing I won't tolerate is crabs and ill intentioned critiques. I also suggest for every critique to mix the good with the bad, so that people know what they did wrong, but also where they got right.

>>4633547
Guys, how the fuck I should draw head? I really appreciate if somebody in the /asg/ (hahaha) will give a piece of advice on how the fuck I should draw lower part of the head (checkbones, chin and shit). Even Loomis doesn't make it clear. Fuck this and fuck drawing.

>>4635151
Yeah dude let us just give you fucking advice without posting your shit ass work too now fuck off to /vent/

Working on this sketch atm.

>>4634755
I used this watercolor brush here with some changes,
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1572119
most of the brushes I use are a variation of this one where I change the tip to tringular, round or square.
It’s from the Lack's tutorial on CSP site, obviously it’s not the same one he uses in the stream, but it’s the closest thing I’ve found since I think it’s absurd to pay 100 dollars for that brush

>>4634967
I liked the idea, this is the only place I found to post so another option seems to be interesting

>>4633547

>>4634967
Retard, there already exists an /asg/ discord
The OP keeps removing the link for obvious reasons.
You don't need filtering out of people anon. You need hard work, and guts!
https://discord.gg/JyRFE5

Should I recklessly throw money on expensive tablet or should I waste money on cheap tablet?

>>4633575
Nothing went wrong with my life, I was always like this. If I cease to draw or write, I will commit suicide.

>>4635349
kys tranny

>>4635349
ok

Well it was a study before it was porn

>>4633281
It's on exhentai bro.

>>4635371
GMI anon... how long until have you practiced to get this result? Also any tutorials for coloring?

>>4635086
thirteen people sounds scary... I dunno anon, I'd like to be a silent reader, can I just lurk in your server?

>>4635349
This discord is shit. DO NOT JOIN

>>4635349
wtf
discord god

>>4635371
>those knees
>that collarbone
>fingers
>that hair
>emotionless
>shading with black

back to loomis

>>4635378
I don't think that's gmi anon

>>4635477
why? what's the best guy's work look like in there?

>>4635486
gmi enough for me, ngl I'd coom to that.

>>4635486

I'm going to grab that Will Weston course, is that good for beg who want into animu?

>>4635500
no, just grind your fundies thats more than enough

>>4635378
As the other anon said im somebody else. atm im just mostly a color picking scrub. I been drawing for about 2.5 years

>>4635515
any good tutorials for coloring? I'm curious how you color the nipple.

>>4635520
Unfortunately that was mostly winging it. Can't really refer to a tutorial. I was just trying to get something similar to this picture

I guess since it's kinda related, I'll ask it here. Does anyone know how to uncensor doujin? Need to remove a lot of black bars that censoring dick and pussy. I guess I can do light redraw, but the screentones are hard to replicate.

How'd I do? Bear in mind this is my first attempt at "properly" shading and my first attempt at rendering hair at all.

>>4634635
Show me the flow in Asagi's eye from this character sheet because I can't see it please

How did I do?

>>4635624
you use the clone stamp/replace tool in photoshop to replace the screentones and then draw the lines over it

>>4635714
it's very good! A little hard to tell whats going on with the body with all those layers. but color should help fix that problem? Anyway i recommend trying to scan it to your computer make make some lineart out of it.

>>4635718
Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe I'll experimenting with screentones from CSP materials too.

>>4633547
I wanna lewd this.

>>4635714
the face reminds me of Oku-san's mangaka style. Pls don't make she too fat breh.

>>4635371
Why are you drawing like the earlier GBF art and not the later, improved ones?

>>4635766
I like the 2014-2016 GBF art way more than the current

>>4635086
Is it okay if I only post once a week or so? The idea is solid but I'm too lazy to draw every day.

>>4635356
Get a moderately priced one.

>>4635776
I know art is subjective and all, but I think the art style has objectively improved. See related picture,

>>4635803
And than this one.

>>4635714
i like it.

>>4635803
>>4635804
Objectively yeah. But there's something about the crust of old Granblue that I long for. But yeah I'm not trying to convert anyone or anything. Like what you like.

>>4635779
no problem, as long as you post something

>>4633547
been practicing face and hair. is it appealing?

We draw

>>4636700
You're focusing too much on the faces, specifically a front view with zero sense of perspective. In other words, your drawings are flat with no form. Unironically start drawing boxes, spheres, and cylindrical forms to understand how to convey these forms in space. Understand the importance of overlap and foreshortened forms that relate to the vanishing point. Pick up Perspective made easy by ernest norling and start studying, after you understand the concept of drawing in perspective apply basic forms with anatomical knowledge you may learn from figure drawing from the real life model.

>>4633565
Source/Blog?

>>4636709
That's too much damn work, I just wanna have fun.

>>4636709
>Unironically start drawing boxes, spheres, and cylindrical forms to understand how to convey these forms in space. Understand the importance of overlap and foreshortened forms that relate to the vanishing point. Pick up Perspective made easy by ernest norling and start studying
how long

>>4636709
but how

>>4636748
keep copying ぽてち

looks like I'll have to find a quicker way to draw shapes

>>4636764
If that's what it takes

>>4636768
you can't even draw circles or straight lines. stop using digital. pick up a pen and paper and practice that way. you need physical dexterity that you will not learn with a tablet.

>>4636780
Huh?? I thought you said to draw shapes now you expect this and that and that and this some high expectations there

>>4636783
>>>/ic/beg

>>4636786
this pisses me off

>>4636780
If you intend on using digital then you're going to have to spend a lot of time on it to adjust to it. Everything you build up in traditional will require re-learning on a tablet.

>>4636783
dont worry about them anon, they're crabs. you're doing fine

>>4636791
This "if you intend to use digital, don't learn traditional" line of though is nonsense. You should always learn the basics with traditional.

It's faster and easier to learn the skills in traditional. The adjustment of those skills to digital does not require a complete re-learning. That person doesn't look like they can draw in digital or traditional so pen and paper will be a huge improvement for their learning.

this really pisses me off imma go draw

>>4636801
Gmi

>>4636797
Exactly. Once you master traditionally then you can make one of the thousands of threads bitching about how digital feels nothing like traditional and you can no longer make a straight line. Then you will blindly follow some retards advice and spend two years doing drawbox digitally just to get back to square one.

>>4636791
WRONG
it took me about 2 weeks tops to adjust to using a tablet from traditional

>>4633606
his most liked drawing just have 35 likes, thats sad considering that a lot of shittier art easily gets more likes than this

>>4636783
>>4636768
Not that anon. I mean if you're just learning fundies and currently at the beginner phase, why not do both trad and digital? Personally I prefer to practice on paper and do finished works on digital.

Do whatever that feels comfortable for you. Decide on you own and not let ppl dictate your next step

>>4636969
Well you see anon, too many bottles of this wine we can't pronounce. Too many bowls of that green, no lucky charms. The maids come around too much; parents ain't around enough. Too many joyrides in daddy's jaguar, too many white lies and white lines. Super rich kids with nothing but loose ends. Super rich kids with nothing but fake friends.

>>4635629
Learn your beg fundies before finishing something.

>>4636700
Your hand is the wrong way, hurry up and make a new pose.
>>4636742
It'll take a day to get used to them, all you need to do is understand the concepts.

>>4637047
https://youtu.be/1s_O_IV18N0

>>4637047
can't I just copy your sketches I'll make sure to finish them since i have an idea of who I want to draw

>>4637057
No tools just rules, they're all yours buddy.

>>4637047
anon your advice are solid and good and all but why do you torture yourself with repeated sketches of headless torsos?

>>4637124
He's just a memer like nosebro and is too afraid to commit to anything beyond simple sketches due to fear of failure.

>>4637124
>advice are solid and good
Blind people could easily point out what's wrong.
And a 3 years old can easily call someone else to go back learning from the basics.
You probably have a toddler's brain if you think those advice are solid & good.

How do you paint the abs and chest area?

>>4637159
He was probably just giving you a compliment in order not to scare you off, so you don't ignore him. Now answer the question.

>>4637159
They seem generic but they're not wrong advice. I see misleading advise here all the time. Im not defending him I'm just confused at the advice vs his art output

>>4637124
Originally it was to learn the body enough, to understand how looks from most perspectives to draw it from imagination, but I keep failing at the same shit over and over again, so here I am. Still trying to figure out the puzzle.

>>4637170
Do you see me posting sketches?
I'm not that crazy guy.

>>4637178
The thing about being generic and not wrong, is that it most likely is just brainless advice that the artist already knows.
It doesn't helps.

It's like asking "Why am i not going towards this [Destination]??"
And someone answer "Well, you gotta keep driving, it ain't here."
instead of giving you the clear direction.

>>4637184
you're a scared little bitch who's afraid of trying and failing anything new

>>4637193
ah I suppose that's true

Can I get some critique? Trying to do both relatively flat chest along with big hips but I'm having a hard time matching both upper and lower sections of the body in a graceful manner. Thanks.

>>4637243
What do you think is wrong in your opinion? Can you point it out?

>>4637243
I dunno.

>>4637270
Regarding problems on the overall torso question one is the ass line. The line over there is all over the place as I don't know how to fit it properly in the pose or if it should even show. The other is around where the hip ends and the legs as the connection around that area with the vagina seems missing and hard to define properly at the moment.

>>4637282
This is helpful. Thanks!

>>4637282
>losing that fatty thighs
This is crime

>>4637243
Look up anatomy for sculptors, they explain what makes up the curves in women. Most of the fatty pads are located in the legs towards the sides and the butt.

Practice for today.
Tried to fix the angled face and it now looks more normal.

>>4637047
Remember to always do the opposite this fag says

>>4637361
stop adding philtrum on it

r8

>>4637499
Very good, obviously.
With cleaner lineart it's pretty much what you'd see in a Manga

>>4637499
left 7/10, right 4/10

>>4637499
breddy good on the left. with the addition of the right it brings it down a lot. stiff and really flat because no hardly any overlap and head on. the head on the stick is really poorly placed, it's behind the left girl but there's no clue for the depth compared to the girl on the right so it kills any consistent sense of depth in the image. they're standing a little crooked and don't look like they're on the same ground plane.

What does the artist mean when they say "build the mouth shape around the teeth?"

>>4637641
He means that he likes draws teeth first, then draws the mouth, similar to how some people prefer drawing a skull then putting all the muscles and other details on top of it.

>>4637656
I can see that, but how exactly is the mouth built around the form of the teeth?
I know there's a sort of sphere around the lips, but that doesn't account for the sides of the mouth when they open.

>>4637641
it's easier to wrap clothes on a body as opposed to drawing clothes first then fitting a body into them

>>4637184
What parts do you keep failing at?

>>4638196
Forearm and lower legs in perspective, looked at every reference under the sun.

>>4637495
sure.
here's how it looks like.
I just add it to help me visualize the area below the nose and the upper lips.
So i can see what is wrong easier like in the "before" drawing.
And the "after" drawing still looks weird...

But i'm probably just leave it and continue drawing other angle's head first.
Not gonna fix small errors until then.

>>4637660
If you don't get it, then don't bother.
Everyone have their own different understanding.
Choose one that helps you to understand drawings better.

I think I've done this construction before but it wasn't good enough and now I stopped but now I'm trying to do it again

>>4638216
Have you drawn regular people or have you always done anime?
The courses on regular people always have something on doing feet and arms.
I don't know if you were just being sketchy, but your guys have kankles lol.
They have no shape and your elbows are too low.
I'm doing portraits right now but I'll move on to figures in a few days, hopefully i can bring something back that might help you

>>4638362
It's not construction if you just throw some lines in a circle. Maybe it's done differently in manga but the lines are supposed to curve over the head shape

>>4637184
because you need to leave your comfort zone

the more i draw the more coming to these threads is so funny to me, it's like none of you here understand what actual effort looks like. i hope there are actually a whole bunch of lurkers putting in at least 4 hours every day and constantly pushing yourself to do stuff you can't do and actually following the guide in the OP. otherwise this thread is irredeemable

>>4638393
Show us true progress anon
Pyw please

>>4638383
That's why we must continue to draw

>>4638393
I draw a lot but I wouldn't consider the thread funny. Some people are actually putting considerable effort and even trying new things but being lost in this journey often with no guidance is not a nice feeling and I cant find any sort of joy about making fun of other people in this situation as I was myself on it and Im constantly back in it again constantly the more I draw.

>>4638393
>4 hours a day
Sorry we are not all neet like you.

>>4638433
Neet here. I came get 4 hours in.
Much of my time is spent trying to figure it what I'm suppose to do

>>4638435
I can't* get 4 hours in. Sry I'm on mobile

>>4638433
jobs got made illegal recently due to the 'rona, what excuse do you have?
anyway, if you have a job, wake up early and do your practice before you go to work instead of after you get home. so if your work is at 9am wake up at 4am and do a good 4 hours of practice. you will have more focus, energy, and not feel lazy and like slacking off. the only people who can't get 4 hours in per day are idiots. you're not... an idiot, are you anon?

>>4638432
most of the people here make it glaringly obvious they draw for 30 minutes a day then give up. not my fault and yes i enjoy pointing it out because it's really funny that this mentality of putting in a tiny bit of effort before complaining about the technique online is now the predominant one

gonna go draw my waifu

>>4638456
Fuck yea bro, do it

>>4638448
Yeah, how about not sleep at all and get even more hours?
Dumbass.
This is the cue for me to realize you're just a fucking idiot blowing smoke out of his dumb retarded ass

>>4638451
And what's wrong with people that wanted to do a little practice everyday?
It's not a race you know?
And I still don't see you posting your work yet.
PYW!!

>>4638469
you obviously go to sleep earlier you fucking mentally stunted faggot

>>4638474
>And what's wrong with people that wanted to do a little practice everyday?
what about them?

>>4638432
>being lost in this journey often with no guidance
I don't want to be a mega shill but seeing other people's studies on dad helped me figure out what to study.
I was directionless and beat myself up for not getting something after a few tries. But really, you have to do pages of pages of studies and experimentations until something clicks and feels easier for you. No shortcuts

>>4638456
Where's she from? She's cute.

>>4638550
dad and las are a garbage community circlejerk for literal underage teenagers and mental teenagers. there's no helpful critique or feedback, you have to be part of the jerk for amyone to interact with you, there's a really fake sense of positivity, all the art styles are nothing like how i want to draw, and they're just as much if not more blind leading the blind. there's also a very uncomfortable hero worship throughout and a ton of retarded sadposters. they generally have awful taste in art with a lot of then obviously coming from tumblr

>>4638550
I just checked the thread. I only saw ONE person actually posting his work among 170 posts and most of them seem to be focused in some kind of retarded drama. Am I missing something?

>>4638623
That's literally it, petty drama. The thread is a place for them to be fucking women shit talking each other and gossip about people in their community anonymously. It's completely unrelated to /ic/, worse than a general on /vg/. It shouldn't be allowed but we have no mods here.

>>4638615
>>4638636
based big dimes dad working these jabronis into a seething, sputtering shoot

>>4635482
Well I added an emote since it was bugging me too

>>4638673
Also the non porn angle

>>4638623
https://dad.gallery/submissions
thread is p shit right now. It's just shitpost and general site and challenge discussions. Just breeze through the submission link for any studies you find interesting or hang around the lascord if you want

>>4637047
you're gmi anon

>>4638744
>Registration has temporarily been closed.
Fuck off with your secret club circlejerk shit

>>4638673
wrap the eyes around the head like a napkin or piece of paper around a cup. the face has no depth or hint of perspective

>>4638725
>the non porn angle
What did he mean by this.
Also
>sees a list of problems
>only changes the face

>>4638753
Right I forgot that it's temp closed for a while. You don't have to join if you want tho Im just sharing my frustrations at art prior to joining dad >4638550

What the fuck bros! I was in the middle of photocopying when I started constructing and I nearly had a heart attack! Good thing I caught myself and just continued copying what I see.

How do you guys keep yourself from constructing floating Loomis heads by accident? I wish I never read Loomis, its like a god damn curse. Fucking fundies, right?

>>4638762
Just meant the tilted camera.
I read the list but it feels like at that point I should just make something new and keep in mind these points. Its just that adding an emote is fast and easy so might as well.

what is the process to drawing eyes?, do I have to draw an outline for them, or just do them all in a couple of strokes with the right brush?
I can kinda do the right shape for different eyes but they always look samey or boring. Im not sure if I should outline them, use brushes with lower opacity, stuff like that. Trying to go for that 80s and 90s aesthetic too.

>>4638377
i can't stand this newfags

>>4638815
epic story bro

>>4638817
Lmao calling camera tilt the porn angle

>>4638851
In English please

>>4638317
If the head is turned at an angle such that the right ear becomes invisible, then the right eye should be smaller, since it's farther away (pic related). It is also a good idea to "connect" the innermost part of the brow to the bridge of the nose, it helps to show depth.

I would show it better but am tradfag and don't feel like taking pictures rn.

I'm getting the hang of it now imma copy mangamaterials along with ぽてち and read loomis more carefully to apply anime heads to it since I can see it now but I'll have to work on drawing the head at different angles first

>>4639011
That's the spirit!

>>4639011
not even close to anime
>>>/ic/beg

How do you draw anime water

>>4639018
stop it

Trying studying face proportions from reference, should I do some on my own too at the same time?

>>4638947
>"connect" the innermost part of the brow to the bridge of the nose,
?

>>4639103
>should I do some on my own too at the same time?
Why don't people bother speaking in a coherent way anymore?

>>4639011
>mangamaterials
Is this a phrase or a specific book or something else?
I've seen it being used a few times already

>>4639125
Does google not exist where you are?

>>4638673
>>4638725
>when westerners try to draw anime

>>4635349
>retard
yikes opinion discarded

These threads are the definition of mean spirited. Later faggots

I'm trying to draw a neet girl who's plain and not overly feminine, I think I made the jaw too angular and the legs too stocky but I've seen other artists do similar with better effect. Is there anything you can recommend for future attempts to yield a better result?

Haven't drawn much the last week, been kinda stressed but this one's still p embarrassing lmao

>>4639223
She looks like a cross dressing English boy.

Give her a female body even if she isn't suppose to be sexy it's still a girl

>>4639231
Trace where the ears are coming out of his head. They shouldn't be so high up
Fix that and the nose and your good for the most part

>>4639267
Yeah you're right, I noticed the ears but was too lazy to move everything around to fix it.
I still feel like it otherwise has that flat and boring look that a lot of begginer digital artists have, I just can't tell exactly why

>>4639304
Unironically it's perspective
The nose is too far back
And the mouth it's a bit off too
Try drawing a vertical center line and placing things in their right place

>>4639223
I dig it. In my opinion adding more femenine curves to make it look more femenine as the other poster suggested would do the trick. I would also add more line weight all around the countours of the figure as well as clean up the hands and the end of the legs. Also check the other artists you mentioned and see what is off compared to them. Good job nonetheless.

>>4639141
>yikes discarded
opinion retarded

>>4638947
Practice for today.
Tried to fix the angle again.
The angle looks more correct now compared to the previous one.
But screwed up the face feature badly so now they don't look like the same person.,..

>>4639382
Do you draw 10 minutes a day? ngmi

>>4639388
that took me 1 hour to draw.
post your work now.

>>4639396
I will, but not for a lowly beg such as yourself.

>>4639399
shitposter as expected.
I'm just gonna ignore you.

>>4639409
Ok, beg. Stay bad

>>4639264
yeh I'll try making a more feminine sketch and build on top of it, thanks anon.

>>4639349
thanks for the critique anon, I'm messing with my outline contours at the moment and having some good results.

>>4639382
Definitely good improvement anon, but you should definitely decrease her Jaw size and put her mouth higher. Feel the space between your lips and your nose, it's not that big.
Also feel behind your Jawline / under your ears, there's still a part of the neck that would be visible in this position.

Do I have to draw perfect circles for Loomis heads?

>>4633547
How do anime/manga style faces work in 3D form? Are they purely shape design? Whenever 3D adaptions of manga are produced it's usually the faces that look worst in motion.
I'm an ex-anime-gone-realist and sometimes attempt anime style face and it fucks with me because the design process is different.

>>4639499
>How do anime manga style faces work in 3D Form
Like a normal face but in Anime Manga style? I'm not quite sure what kind of answer you're expecting from anyone here.
Just because you can draw one thing doesn't mean you can draw another. Anime is its own beast, you have to practice that independently to realism.

Is there a reference book for anime hairstyles or is learning how to do them all cultural osmosis?

>>4639599
you really cant draw fucking hair? just draw hanks wrapping the head how hard is that,

How do i make this look more japanese?

>>4639784
Thinner lines, especially on the hands. Those thick lines around the fingers look bothersome.

>>4639794
I was playing around with line weight and read that things that are closer, where lines converge or parts in the shade have thicker lines.
I'll make them thinner overall thanks.

>>4639451
>>4639499
>>4639784
Cmon now

>>4639802
Well I suppose that's true, but it doesn't really work in the Image

>>4639803
what?

>>4639809
I think Anon is pointing out they're nonsense questions

>>4639794
>>4639802
>>4639805
>>4639784
Okay hopefully this looks better.
I added a ton of lineweight to begin with because I'm told that my drawings look flat and line weight was meant to remedy that.

>>4639830
Lineweight can probably convey depth a bit better than just normal lines, but if you look at Mangaka (For example Horikoshi or Isayama) they don't really use line weight, but others (Like Gotouge) uses line weight.
There isn't really a certain trait that an artwork needs to have to "look" Japanese, the only qualifier seems to be "Anime/Manga", but even then styles can vary drastically.
I think the major thing differenciating Comics from Manga is that in Manga the human shape is drastically changed. Face and Body are simplistic, Eyes are larger than normal.
The environment seems to be a bit less important, because if you look at SnK or KNY the environment is sometimes just parallel lines and sometimes it's very detailed.

tl;dr
Just learn Japanese and no westerner will be able to tell you're not Japanese desu

>>4639125
She's some Mangaka who had a pixivbox which had tutorials in English on how to draw anime related techniques but however last year she got backlash from the Twitter crowd since one of her tutorials talked about using chicken scratch as a bad habit and instead to use longer strokes like a professional which went against people's "muh style" so ever since that happened she doesn't translate her tutorials anymore but she does make videos about them which are more efficient depending on your preferences or not

>>4639906
What they're a girl?
I thought the voice over was somebody that they hired.

>>4639893
Okay so besides line weight how can I make my drawings not look flat?

>>4639936
by learning your fundies

>>4639936
>how do you learn xyz

I've learnt a whole foreign language and can't remember how, I can only critique. Study from reference or something, that's the correct thing to do 99% of the time anyway

>>4639138

>>4639964
Ok thanks

>>4639942
Fuck off loomisfag

>>4639979
t. talent believer

>>4639982

>>4639985
>>4639982

>>4639994
who is sam

>>4639996
ligma balls

>>4638909
suck my dick newfag

>>4639982
>he believes people are made equally

>>4639906
Is the stuff on yiff all hits stuff available or is there a better collection out there?
I tried checking resources and video thread but i didn't find it

>>4640224
There's a folder that has some of the tutorials in the mega link on /alt/ but I can also link you to more from exhentai
https://exhentai.org/g/1439988/6607c46407/

>>4639435
hmm... you're right.
Thanks for the input and actual good advice.
This is very very much appreciated.
Much more than those who just call others to grind loomis, or just spam NGMI like a retard.

>>4640350
Wow, it must have really gotten to you, begtard, and it's because it's true.

>>4640350
Not anime, focus on the fundamentals and go to /beg/

>>4640268
Thanks anon

>>4640350
I mean, there are obvious reasons for why some people say that, but a big part is probably also their ego.
I think you should draw more than just one sketch a day right now. Focus on one part like for example nose + eyes and draw that over and over from reference until you get good and get a sense for their form, then move onto nose mouth and then draw the whole face then the face plus hair and ears stuff like that, build up your skills.
Sure you can just dive in but I'm not sure if that's the most productive thing to do.

>>4640379
>>4640384
>f-fundamentals
Stfu, loomisfags, you retards are too busy drawing loomis heads and fundies that you can’t make any appealing artwork or have create a single finishe one. Fuck off

>>4640350

>>4640439
I think the big part is the shit posting culture this site have.
It's the easiest way to get free (you)s without having to put any thoughts into it.
Although I'm certainly not gonna feed the triggered trolls.
So, no (you)s for them.

I don't really have time to draw more than one a day.
And this is the pacing I found reasonable to keep me going.
Rather than being like some others that grind until they burn out, I will just keep my schedule.

>Focus on one part
That's actually good advice, but this is my thought, I wanted to draw out the faces with different angle first.
Which is inevitably gonna be wrong.
Only then I can see the mistakes I'm making.
That way, I can pay attention on what to take note of when learning.
Although I did wasted too much time grinding this angle out because kind anons been giving out good advice.
But I think I will just move along and finish all the angles first...
Then, I will learn the specific face features.
After that, I can draw another faces with different angles drawing.
To see how much I improved and what I learned.
Also what mistakes to take note of this time.

Here's my thought, don't worry about drawing it wrong.
Just keep drawing and slowly improve.
It's not a race, it's a marathon.

I know its very rough at this stage but is there anything I can do to make the placement of the right eye (viewer left) better?

Something about it is still not sitting right with me. No pun intended.

>>4640463
Wow, you can write some mini essay, but don’t have time to draw. You are a special kind of retard.

>>4640463

I didn't read that but here is advice just read loomis and just draw

>>4640456
anon.. you fell for the no fundies meme..

>>4640350
Hi. Just passing by but i hope this helps.

>>4640476
You're a fucking faggot, nigga. Guess who's getting no passes, nigga.

>>4640476
looks like that miku doll

>>4640495
SPOOKY MIKU BITCH

>>4640350

>>4640350
I think you understand it

>>4640503
so do i just copy this

>>4640476
Well, it doesn't help much because my skill level couldn't comprehend what you're doing.
But it's a good reference.
And a good comparison to see the difference in my skill levels.
Maybe it will be useful when I start learning to draw the face features.
Thanks so much for taking your time and efforts to help.
I will keep it until I can use it someday.
Cheers.

>>4640503
Are the ears too small on this? Isn't the bottom of the nose supposed to be at equal height with the bottom of the ears?

>>4640473
I'll have to draw the old people heads. Let's do it.

>>4640070
found the weeb

>>4640508
You talk too damn much, are you yanderedev by chance?

>>4640511
Well you see, a king in his castle, a king on the hill. Wasting his time chasing cheap thrills.

>>4640501
How should I apply this into my drawing?
Anime usually just draw the outline of the neck, and ignore the details of the muscles.
I think I will learn more about necks later....

>>4640503
What do you mean?
What do I understand?

>>4640495
it has been a year since I've started to draw, my characters are stiff as fuck but I'm working on that.
Am I on the right path with a style like this?

Putting thoughts and efforts in attempts to communication is talk too much.
I will speak in a style that suit you then.

>>4640514
K.
No.

>>4640518

>>4640521
no

>>4640350
Do you really have to go with that haircut. It doesn't translate well if you wanna do anime style

>>4640532
Is this better?

>>4640537
The examples shown here look better, so yes

>>4640532
It looks better than bald head and i have learnt zero things from drawing hair yet.
Can you post some example of easy to draw hair that can still capture the head shape?
So I don't need to spend 10 minutes+ just to draw the hair.

>>4640542

would anyone happen to have a reference of a really skinny male? Like, comically or exaggeratedly skinny

>>4640508
Uh sorry, I'm also a beginner at drawing and my english sucks so I usually just post images instead of explaining or recommending loomis like everyone does.
But in general, just compare your original picture and the edit while trying to observe the differences and what I did, what can you do to make your drawing look better and what mistakes you have made. Then apply whatever you learn plus studying loomis/other books and artists in your next drawing.
Sorry if couldn't be more helpful.

>>4640545
I just need some basic easy one to draw.
Not one that gonna spend more time drawing the hair in details.

>>4640547
look for Berserk chapters pre-eclipse where Griffith is rescued

>>4640553
Quit being a chicken faggot and draw

>>4640542
>>4640553
I find anything with bangs look easier to draw. I'm not on my desktop at the moment I can give you any samples when I get back

>>4640464
The giant pupils are throwing off your eyeballs.
Draw the eyeball first then place the pupil/ iris. The pupil/iris part goes inside the eyelid

>>4640560
Thanks, very much appreciated.

>>4640464
Is it ok if I try a redline of this

>>4640571
You never ask for permission

>>4640576
ok, I just don't want to seem rude ._.

>>4640571
Op here. Please, by all means!

>>4640350
I'm on mobile so sry for the shaky lines.
1 The red line shows that the jaw comes out from the front of the ear the rest its the back if the skull and the neck coming outfrom behind the ear.
2 the blue line shows that your ears are being drawn from different positions. The top tip of the ear roughly lies at the brow line.
Doesn't matter if you follow the rule just keep your drawings consistent

>>4640606
Mother fucker the image

>>4640606
Also get rid of the Hitler mustache

>>4640350
>>4640606
Yes he's using 0 construction because he thinks loomis and fundies are a meme, have fun literally spoonfeeding this kid loomis/construction because he can't read a book for 15 minutes.

>>4635316
god damn son that looks great

>>4640350
Here's my attempt with some basic construction, not sure what your hair is doing, if it's supposed to be shaved on the sides or not.

>>4640505
Do you want this style? If yes, then yeah copy it and practice with this style and other angles.

ITT: bunch of inferior copy machine ngmi

>>4640663
>reeee you should only use loomis reeee

>>4640663
/thread

>>4640645
>>4640606

>>4640663
Pyw

>>4640713

>>4640715
Now I cry

I'll make the new one

>>4635664
?

>>4640751
I'll have study this more carefully thank you for showing me

>>4640503
I'm going to steal this to use for reference. I get too hung up on sketching shapes that I focus more on the sketch than the actual detail.

This makes it look cleaner on a step by step basis, thank you.

new thread
>>4640782
>>4640782
>>4640782

>>4640715
inferior copy machine ngmi

>>4640751
What do the red xs mean?
Isn't it suppose to have a direction?

>>4640715
>the hands
oh no no no

>>4635485
Go be a fucking crab somewhere else. I'm sure anons work is way better than anything you will ever produce in your entire life. Stay salty.

>>4640521
Lmao ur doing fine keep practicing

>>4635492
gmi

>>4640547
>really skinny male
>>4640556
>Griffith