/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4587177
I can't fucking sketch digitally I despise it so the only use I have for my tablet is digital painting or coloring

I wish Iooked as good as Lucifer in that image

I need to stop pausing and eating snacks/drinking coffee/drinking alcohol every 30 minutes

>>4587177
I've been noticing symptoms that I'm pretty sure are adhd, and I fucking hope that's it because if not then I'm absolutely fucked cause I can't practice at all and then there'll be nothing real that makes me like this and I'm just dumb and bad

I need to stop hoarding books like a retard and actually draw.

I CANT GRAYSCALE TO COLOR AT ALL AHHHH

>>4587194
When I learned to paint, we used burnt sienna, ultramarine blue, and titanium white... the "delacroix" palette. Super flexible, try it

>>4587177
So I've spent a lot of time over the years practicing coloring but I don't think it suits my art style at all. My drawings only feel right to me when there's no color involved other than shades of black and white, it's always felt like that.

No matter how good my coloring could ever possibly get, it instantly makes me dislike my work because it feels untrue to me if that makes any sense. It feels fake and unlike me to use colors.

I guess what I'm looking for is an answer, if you can be an artist and do things your own way. Even if doing things your own way means never using colors again and sticking to a monochrome style.

Man, I'm regretting getting into graphics design. I just wanted to draw/game design and I'm thinking of what I can possibly use it for besides making ads or logos and shit

>>4587177
I can’t fucking concentrate On drawing for more than 20 minutes at a time

I wish that I loved drawing more politically correct and socially accepted things. But being about to materialize pic related is my goal for now. Even if I do get half-decent, I probably won't be able to show any of my finished work to close ones.

>>4587207
There are way more jobs for making logos and shit than there are for games. You may not like it as much, but graphic design is arguably more profitable.

>>4587202
Learn fundamentals. Yes that means painting and drawing fundamentals with color and different media. Your style is your DNA and it will always be there

i started having extreme seizures a while back and fuck sake man i WANT to draw but... i just end up staring at my work wondering what the hell has happened to me

it's made it so much worse that i'm stuck inside 24/7, constantly thinking about it

my skills are just vanishing, i'm drawing like im twelve again and every single fit makes it worse, like i'm shaking out my braincells and eventually i'll be some kind of talentless, unproductive vegetable

bullshit and shameful, my friends and family tell me it's okay, that it's okay to take a break and stop drawing till i "get better" but i don't feel like that. I feel like i have no excuses and that i should just be powering through

god dammit i hate myself

I takes me 5+ hours to draw a sketch of a naked character in a simple pose. That's not hyperbole. And what I do sketch is always a shittier version of what i see other artists capable of doing in 15 minutes. What rubs salt in the wound for me is seeing artists say "haha I'm so slow please forgive me" and they produce some immaculate beautiful colored rendered drawing in <2 hours. Meanwhile in the same time frame I am still using the lasso and transform tools on my construction model, trying to get proportions right before I can even think about drawing the body.

>>4587215
Mmhm. I practice fundamentals a lot using references from all different sources and I'll continue doing it like you suggested.

Also, the drawing I posted wasn't my own just in case that's why you brought it up. I used it as an example of drawings that I like. Same with pic related. These types of drawings are the ones I always grow attached to.

>>4587177
i'm a virgin coomer artist living in a 3rd worlder, i'll probably die alone

>>4587221
Nah I'm like you I don't like taking breaks but it's usually beneficial. Driving a car till it breaks isn't as efficient as driving a car and stopping to replace broken parts

>>4587242
pyw please, I'm curious

>>4587245
no, my images are google researchable

>>4587249
Why would that matter?

>>4587245
>>4587249
+ i made the mistake of using the same username for nsfw and sfw sites/forums, except social media but i wouldn't doubt someone tracing me through reddit to facebook

>>4587262
just post the cunny and the face

those are all I need

>>4587262
please

I fucking hate that I don't have any motivation to practice my art skills and actually do any drawings. I have a thousand ideas. I lay awake at night just thinking of cool shit I could draw, shit that's certainly beyond my skill level. But I never try. The ideas just keep piling up. I keep saying I'm gonna start a sketch book to practice fundies and shit, but I don't. I could be getting gains right now but here I am just wasting my time. It's seriously starting to make me wonder if maybe I'm depressed or some shit.

>>4587177
Anyone else feel the same where no matter what you do you just can't bring yourself to start a social media and post your art? Whenever you get complimented in a positive way you're so warped it honestly feels as if they're being sarcastic and making fun of you when it could legitimately be sincere. Honestly can't tell anymore.

>>4587177
I keep ping-ponging between different art styles. I can't settle.

>>4587236
Then work on that style. There's a lot to learn there.

>>4587227
That gets better as you improve. But you also need to practice getting quicker, so that you can't get quicker faster (that make sense?). Do a bunch of "class" type sessions. Go to line-of-action.com or croquis cafe on vimeo. Push yourself to do more during those 30 second, 1 minute, 2 minute sections. You'll improve, I promise.

>>4587236
Love the vibe
Break it down, u can do this in ur own style

Is drawing really a good way of expression and communication of ideas? I’ve been drawing almost daily since I can remember and it gives me great pleasure. But ever since I started to branch out into other ways of self expression when I was an early teen - music, writing, poetry etc. - I’ve found that artwork (on its own) fails to compete. I struggle to find a way to defend my only impressive talent, and why I’ve spent my life working on it, when I find other art forms to be far superior. To me it seems that nothing in the 21st century brings people together and provides the same primal, gut reaction that music or the written word does. And if there is such a thing, it’s certainly not /ic/‘s faggy anime shit. I’ll never stop drawing because of this, it’s just depressing.

>>4587322
Same here bruh ive been dancing for 14 years

>>4587301
>>4587318
Thanks for replying. That's all I needed to hear really. From a young age every adult was always telling me what it meant to be an 'artist', and how art is 'supposed' to look. It made me feel like the things I wanted to draw were wrong, and that the artists I looked up to should be ignored in favor of a more traditional style.

While it did help me learn the basic fundamentals, I'm past that stage now. Instead of trying to be someone I'm not, I'll just draw the things that I like without worrying about being conventional.

>>4587177
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>>4587349
Art's supposed 2 b fun yo. "Its all about the mileage, so get drawing" -an old landscape artist to me
Going thru a breakup so been drawing things that takes away the pain

>>4587243
kind of good to know I’m not alone in feeling this. It’s difficult to know when to stop...

I feel like I'm just throwing shit at the wall and none of that shit is even sticking. Drawing isn't fun, putting down so much as a line is a chore, even shitting out studies feels like I'm going nowhere because I'm good enough to know that I'm doing things wrong but not enough to actually do them right. I know it's a wall everyone hits while gaining mileage but I'm so fucking tired and frustrated right now.

>>4587382
Drawing is not supposed to be fun, if you're getting frustrated that means you are trying something new and out of a comfort zone which is where you want to be.

>>4587386
>Drawing is not supposed to be fun
>supposed to always be in pain
o-okay

>>4587391
Suck it up faggot.

>>4587401
suck up this *unzip*

I’ve got a friend who flexes on me every fucking day for being so very productive and talented, and I sit here and politely suck it up and tell her how great it is despite it being heinously obvious in being traced. Her colours are over saturated and her abuse of blending is heinous.

Yet she sits there and lectures me and writes me tutorials I never ask for and tells me “it’s just because I’m older, I have more experience!”

It makes me want to kms. I grin and bare it and just wind up getting angrier about it every time she spans me three more finished drawings in a night while I’m grafting to make myself better by nature. Grrrrr.

>>4587427
Females bullying other females is so hot.

>>4587427
bitterness is not the way <3

>>4587368
I'm going to think with that mindset from now on, and have fun with it. I'll remember that quote too so if I ever fall into a slump, I'll just keep on drawing.

And thanks for sharing. Your work looks really good, I like your style a lot.
The last breakup made me not want to bother with people again for a really long time, but the worst moments in life can motivate you in unexpected ways. Things will get better. Hope you have a good week bro.

>>4587443
I’m don’t usually get so riled up about petty shit but damn, it’s nonstop...

I think I understand fairly well the long road to improve my image making, at least technically. But to plan, structure and create amazing and powerful stories feels like a mystery to me. I want to make comics, but the only way I write is by intuition, and for now, I'm not so sure I can trust it. If anyone has any recommendations of books and lessons for this, I'll be deeply grateful.

>>4587427
>>4587434

yuri power play when

>inb4 red alert

>>4587427
I kind of get this. Mostly because it feels like you’re wasting your time on someone.

All that time a person is sending you their shit artwork and asking your opinion, you could be spending that time doing better work instead of bending over backwards to kiss their ass. THAT’S what makes me rage with those people.

>>4587446
ayyy, keep workin at the passion

tfw no art gf to laugh with, cry with, draw our fetishes together with, and then plough my loins into.

I still don't understand fucking digital painting.
All I can do is lineart and flats. It drives me crazy.
Digital paint feels the exact same and I don't know how to do it.

>>4587386
>if you're getting frustrated that means you are
is this true

"Graphic Design is my passion" might be a meme but it really is something that I want to do, and that I feel pretty confident in, I know i'm not the best now but time and education will help me gain better skills, my only concern is weather or not i'll be able to find a job in todays world, where I can actually have fun doing what I love without selling my soul or get denied because some google bot can shit out something mediocre but still "passable". Idk what to do man...

>>4587177
>Finally have the funds to sign up for NMA, pay for that shit, fuck yeah
>Have free time today to dive into some videos and get those mad gains
>Set up all my shit, ready to get rolling
>Try to click on a course

>504 error, site is down for maintenance

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

>see great art
>try drawing something quickly as they do
>its shit
>try drawing same thing for hours
>its okay
damn it

>>4587634
chances are it's still shit bruh

>>4587634
Speed comes with practice, anon.

>>4587202
you don't have to use colors if you don't want. You're an artist, you can do whatever the fuck you want, it's not like there's any rules about it. That said, it would not hurt to try and use or learn about colors, just for the sake of doing so. Doesn't mean you'll ever have to use them in your personal work

Why is this thread allowed? Cringe

>>4587349
Awesome! Good luck anon. Also I wanted to add, /ic/ is also one of those places that might make you feel like your style is "bad" and that you should change. Calarts-style artists, for example, would have a bad time here even though the entire fucking world enjoys the style. Every online space will have its own tastes. You need to find a space where your taste aligns with that of the community.

>>4587202
they say artists that spend a long time drawing only in pencil have the hardest time adjusting to colour.

>>4587725
This is true, and everything I try on color is mind baffling.

I done

>>4587177
I know a talented artist who spiralled into a cycle of self-pity and depression because he's a fat virign, but he's neither willing to improve himself or change anything about himself but relies on pitty farming twitter for likes, so even his art suffers because all he does is ugly meme doodles for his newgrounds/4chan fanbase of cocksuckers. So at this point he's depressed, still a virgin, doesn't try to lose weigh AND his art is starting to suffer. He even refunded a lot of commissions he started and never finished because of his childish bitching and whinning. But he's the typ you couldn't directly tell this shit or else he'd freak out, because he prefers people stroking his ego, while he plays the suffering fat incel.
What do you do with a guy like that?

>>4587681
It's supposed to be the containment thread for venting and bullshit however /ic/ just vents all over the board anyways so it's useless

>>4588188
Directly tell him that shit. He acts this way because he's been babied.

>>4587427
I wish to see the traced artwork...

>>4587177
I'm frustrated because I feel like I have no place to share my art. I've been posting anonymously a few times on /ic/ and people generally liked my things, but for some reason I've never made a social media profile (other than the obligatory IRL facebook to keep in touch with friends from school, etc). I don't have a twitter for my art, nor a tumblr, nor a newgrounds and I don't know when's a good time to start?
I wouldn't go as far as calling it anxiety, but I'm incredibly lost as how to proceed and what to even write on twitter, because I fear any attempt to be funny or witty would immediately fire back and appear stiff... and I dont wanna be the dude with 100 drawings posted with zero likes. (I don't have any online friends, either and I don't really have the time to join any cliques)
How do you guys do it?

>>4587177
>Tfw no asian genes
>tfw can make it but it will take 3x longer than it takes asians
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

nothing makes me feel stupider than learning perspective. I'm juggling 3 different books because at some point my donkey brain kicks in and suddenly I can't learn anything beyond basic 2 point perspective.

>>4588416
Chances are you're trying to brute force something that is pretty easy to understand. Are you using loomis? His book on perspective is obtuse and dumb, almost like an intetional sabotage.
The only thing you gotta know with perspective is that things become more narrow towards a vanishing point.

>>4588427
I'm using Framed perspective, Perspective made Easy and Perspective Drawing Handbook for the most part.

I understand the very basic basics:

-eye level/horizon
-1 and two point perspective
- the idea of three point perspective.

but when it comes to constructing things out of perspectives(multiple vanishing points in 2 point perspective, measuring, tilted planes, etc) that's where everything is hazy.

Like, I was following Framed Perspective pretty well but then all of a sudden he starts making perspective grids but for the life of me, I can't find where he's mentioned it before hand so I don't know if it's something I should have picked up intuitively or the he forgot to explain it in the book.

So then I jumped over to perspective Made Easy, which, might be too basic and then How To Draw or the Perspective Drawing Handbook makes everything too complex.

Maybe I'ts because I''m trying to practice and understand the theory at the same time? idk. I'll try reading through the material at work today before practicing after work and see if that helps.

>>4588454
>Maybe I'ts because I''m trying to practice and understand the theory at the same time?
No that's fine.
You're overcomplicating things. It's important to know what you are trying to draw before you even get started, then you should also know if you need 2 point or 3 point perspective or even some fisheye thing.
Like do you look at the thing you're drawing from an eye level or are you above it or are you a dwarf? So that's your horizon line. Obviously everything above the horizon line will get smaller going up and if you look down everything will get smaller going down. There's also stuff like focal length, but you shouldn't be concerned about that now, since most artists ignore that anways, unless they're going for a specific look. So now that you've got your horizon every object will also get more narrow towards the horizon.
That's it.

how do you get started with color

I have 10+ hours of free time every day but I can't bring myself to dedicate even 2 of them to drawing

>>4587221
What do you mean by "extreme" anon?
No judgement, I have seizures too. Mine are non-epileptic and I understand how hard it is to get anything done despite that.

>>4587427
>apparently know her art is just traced shit
>still take her opinions seriously and personally
I don't get it.

>>4587221
>that pic and your post
I feel for you in a big way, but at least you've got a good sense of humor.

>>4588961
So dedicate 30 minutes. Then 60. Then 120.

Start small, work your way up. Looking at your free time as a resource you must "spend" efficiently is never going to work if you're trying to do it in massive chunks.

As a Latino I’m tired of being told to put more “passion” into my art. I’m sure the same retards offering this criticism would tell blacks to use more “soul” and Asians to, I don’t know, make it ricier? Fuck you, whitey, and your cliche ass bullshit. I hope you all get raped to death by a pack of feral niggers. And you can tell them to rape with more soul.

>>4589158
>be more passionate
>WHATCHU MEAN THIS CUZ I MAXICAN AINT IT FUCK U RACIS ASS CRACKAS

this is why nobody takes you seriously

>>4589001
>Non-epileptic
Relateable, anon. Mine started because I took a bad reaction to some painkiller my doctor prescribed me. Fucked me up in the head and now I have seizures that last up to one and a half hours, have given me mini-strokes, and make me grind my teeth unil they literally crack and start chipping. That said, they've gotten easier to handle. In six months the longest one i've had has been 30 minutes long. Not bad.

>>4589139
Thanks man, if you don't laugh you cry tho.

>wake up
>smoke and coca cola as breakfast
>enter /ic/
>respond "cope" to as many posts as I can
>post on /beg/
>receive no critique
>go to sleep, crying

>>4589210
seethe

tired of being a beginner faggot, doing stupid 2-3 hour drawing days when I'm a lazy teenage fuck who could do 6-8 hour days easy if I actually cared

I cant feel the form unless I take psychedelics. After I take some drugs I feel like I can almost see the form right on the screen and just draw it out. I can look at drawings and see exactly what is wrong with them but when I’m sober ... it’s gone. Why?????????? Fuck.

>>4587177
Not like anyone cares, but I got another art job rejection. I keep trying, keep hoping against hope. These people even raised my hopes up before cutting me down with a rejection in the end.

I just feel like such a failure.

>>4589607
Wasn't supposed to be, soldier on and get yourself out there! You're gonna make it.

>>4588382
anon, I'm asian and I can only draw at snail pace, law of average and whatnot still applies to us, keep practicing and you'll become faster

my talented art boyfriend and I broke up again

>>4589634
did you manage to suck some of that talent out of him? let that sparkles rub off a little on you? savor the fruit of his knowledge a little?

>>4589632
Thanks. You're right. Some days hitting your head against the wall just hurts harder than usual.
I appreciate the word of encouragement, anon.

>>4589639
He kinda shunned me on social media *sniff* but I saved high res images of his art *sniff* and all I can do now is watch him post in the beg threads *sniffle* *blow* he didn’t say he loves bee back wasaaah

>>4589633
Thanks asianbro, I will keep trying my hardest!

>>4589536
pyw, im honestly really curious to see what the difference looks like. This sounds really interesting

>>4589669
ripperino my dude

don't worry, you can git gud yourself if you put in the work

>>4589815
I guess so T_T

*sniff*

>>4587201
Not him and sorry it's unrelated to venting but can you explain further?
I see a lot of artists doing the greyscale with some sort of the colors you mentioned, how does it work?
for exemple pic related used some desaturated orange in his value mapping

>>4589992
but people say not to shade with grey

>>4590000
he'll use overlay later to shift the hue

>>4590004
uhmm so you need a different shading layer for each color ?
if you shift the hue shading for dark red every shadow will be red no?

>>4589923
stay strong anon, you will get through this

I struggle drawing from ref/life. I can't seem to get a better grasp of 'drawing what I see' but all the books/videos that talk about it have a shitty round-about way of saying nothing of value. I really wish somebody could point me to some solid advice how to improve.

I'm convinced that drawing well is for other people. A hundred times a day I see someone's art on twitter and go "wow, i sure wish i could do that", but no matter how much I practice I'll only ever be able to create garbage.

What's the point of drawing if I'll always enjoy other people's art but only ever hate my own? Why not leave it to people who actually know what the fuck they're doing?

>>4590000
Nice quads.

Don't shade with grey generally refers to not mixing grey/black into colors when you're shading, or for digital paint not just going up and down the slider. Something like the tutorial makes it so that you're seeing the values rather than getting colors involved before you even know where the light is coming from. It makes more sense when you're actually doing it in practice I think.

For a long time drawing was something not very pleasant to me, something I did just to keep my skills. This becasuse everytime I started to draw all sort of questions would pop into my head. Like why was I drawing, why would I bother painting something non meaningful and for no one to see, etc. Eventually, those questions ruined my mood and made the process tedious and frustrating. For a long time I thought those concerns about the art's metaphysics were legit, until I decided to ignore them. Then, those thoughts would come stronger and stronger in my head, throwing all sort of arguments with the sole motive of convincing me to stop drawing. I realized that I actually had the same kind of thoughts not just in art, but for everything I pretended to do, like if those voices were trying to prevent me from failing or something. I think they were probably the product of my insecurities, insecurities that then I would try to silence with the aproval of other people online. So I continued to ignore them and just started to fucking draw, whitout asking myself why, just drawing with the mind in blank. From the moment I did this drawing became fun, so fun that I started to draw everyday. But then like if the fucking universe were also involved to fuck me from doing any fucking shit my pen got broken and I couldn't finish this fucking shit and I can't buy another pen because they don't fucking sell them anymore and wasting all my money in a new tablet in these times doesn't sound like a good idea and I'm fucking mad and sad but happy too because I realized that I was my biggest enemy and that I can stop sabotaging myself if I ignore my inner voices.

Anyways I wanted to share this because I have read other people here having the same troubles when it comes to draw, maybe they were suffering the same I was suffering.

>>4590265
what kind of tablet is it?

>>4589747
Yeh man, I wish you the best

>>4589992
The girl looks like she's gonna cut off my balls in my sleep

>>4590158
You're not copying, you're interpreting. You're building the form with charcoal, paint, what have you, on the canvas, and sometimes even how it interacts with light.
From real life it's there, from photo u have to extrapolate the information from a flat plane to build ur picture
You're a human that can create, not a printer, not a camera.

>>4587391
you can't spell paint without, pain...

>>4587322
>Is drawing really a good way of expression and communication of ideas?
It absolutely is. I gave up on writing in order to pursue art as a storytelling medium because art is vastly superior. Images, be they art or motion picture or just pictures, tell a story far, far faster than the written word ever can, and tell a much, much more precise story than music ever can.

I tallied up the time it takes to watch a good movie or tv series versus the time is takes to read the book(s) it's based on, and watching a movie was anywhere from 50% to 90% faster, depending on whether it was a singular book or a long series. Music can be used to tell stories, but they're primarily about the emotions the music evokes, and the story is just a blurry framework for that. If you want to tell a cohesive, detailed story in a digestible amount of time that wont leave the audience bored, the best medium for that is art, be it with tv, movies, comics, manga, cartoons, anime, or even visual novels. You get to incorporate elements of writing and music into your story too, so you can basically get the best of all worlds this way. Art is literally the best, most expressive, most efficient, and most popular storytelling medium there is, period, end of story.

TL;DR A picture tells a thousand words.

I ghosted someone for a very silly reason. I got very tempted to contact them again a couple of times, but I felt it was too late for that and immediately regretted it. It pains me too because they were the only one I could talk to. I guess I'm OK with moving on and pretending nothing happened though

>>4589210
can't think of anything more based

>>4590597
don't do that
speak your truth
if it falls apart then it will, no worries

>>4589210
based ic artist gmi

>be me
>can't draw hentai for shit
>browsing shitty korean board
>retarded teen ager pissing me off
>post rendered stuff
>he shut down mouth
> grinding scott robertson for fun
>looks like ass but it's fun

lol why there's so many coward lmao

>>4590747
>his focus is hentai
Cummbrains should be exterminated en masse

posting here has utterly shot my confidence.

>>4587177
>Wow! *big twitter account* just followed me! *screenshot of being mutuals*

How the FUCK do you color. I've spend so much time trying to teach myself how to draw, and now that I'm finally satisfied with my "style" I've plugged in my tablet and I've realized. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO FUCKING COLOR. I don't even know how to CHOOSE the right colors! When I'm using a colorpick/eyedropper tool everything ends up so fucking mudy, but when I do it myself shit is either too pale or too saturated. And no fucking tutorial I could find even tackles this issue, they just talk about values and smudging which is all great and good but nobody talks about how the FUCK you choose the right colors in the first place. I feel like a fucking brainlet. I don't know wtf to do. The moment I sit down to color/paint I feel so fucking stressed.

HOW DO I GET A FOLLOWING I SEE PEOPLE WITH LIKE 15 POSTS AND 300 FOLLOWERS HOW THE FUCK DID THEY DO THAT WHAT AM I DOING WRONG

>>4590979
>they just talk about values
>myself shit is either too pale or too saturated.
dude.

>>4587211
based and guropilled

Realized I'm too retarded to write a webcomic cause I don't know jack shit about writing. I just spent all my time drawing boxes and trying to git gud

>>4587183

>>4590979
Color is value + hue + saturation. You need to learn value first before you tackle the rest. If your shit doesn't look right, you don't understand value and need to go back to it before you try again.

When you master value, read Gurney's color and light. It will all make sense then.

>pretend on social media that I do nothing but play video games
>actually grinding art

>>4591252
Isn’t this what Japanese do? They play and post gacha caps all day then at random at the end of the day post a fully fleshed out picture.

>>4590778
Dont worry 4chan is toxic like that
Dont take ic seriously
Got good critiques here if u can wade thru seething and crabbing

>>4591174
Keep writing. It's hard, that's why only a handful of good writers exists in the sea of vice thots

>>4591273
and what is the endgame of that?

>>4591363
Shitpost all day on Twitter then post something that takes days for the average dick to make in 10 years. Flexing really

>>4587177
Lack of inspiration bothers me so much right now, way more than it did a few years ago. I just can't get involved in any of that, it's just fucking pictures on a screen, I feel absolutely nothing, I don't want to imitate any of that, I don't want to express things with pictures, the process itself isn't enjoyable, I just don't fucking care about art in general. I also got a stable gig a couple of months back for the first time and I just don't give a shit, I could flip burgers just as well

Pee

>>4591363
To post shit like this to impress normalfags

>>4590597
Better to talk and explain yourself. Worst case scenario there's conflict and a falling out and you don't speak anymore which is... Exactly where you're at now.

>>4590778
Same dude, same. Posted a pic on /beg/ weeks ago. Got crabbed on by half the thread.

>>4590336
My goal isn't to draw/paint hyperrealistically, I just would like to accurately represent what I see in life/photos for the sake of improving/learning.

I'm learning to draw or trying to fit enough, sometimes I fail because of me, sometimes because of pain and my fear of it.
But how will I one day be recognized, I have great ideas for art, it's about making them and showing it to the world, I think I've got a good enough taste and sense to make amazing stuff, I see what goes popular, will I ever be recognized?

>>4591189
AND HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LEARN VALUE

Been drawing/studying/grinding for 4 years and to this day i just have no more than 5 mediocre drawings on pixiv and a fuckton of sorta cute sketches scattered. The most i've ranked with commissions have been 30$.

Whenever I want to draw something my mind just goes blank no matter how many references i slap together in pureref.

>>4591606
Yeah /beg/ has gotten a lot more vicious lately. Sometimes posts will get nothing but "Lol" and image reacts.
Someone pointed out recently that it's probably related to subject matter. Bad anime is more likely to get shat on than even the most deformed realistic portrait or bowl of fruit.
Even the worst of the worst can still get helpful encouraging advice sometimes though. It's largely luck of the draw with who happens to be online to see your post that day.

>>4590778
>>4591606
>>4592204
Imagine being this much of a literal sobbing babby

>>4592271
Post your work so we can critique it. :^)

>>4587177
I can't balance coding and art.
They both take up a shit ton of time, but i like them both.
If i choose coding I'm in for a relatively safe ride.
but if i choose art, then I'll have more fun, but there's no guarantee I'll live a comfortable life.

>>4592271
PYW so you can join the club.

>>4592613
>He didn't post his work
>"N-no, pyw instead!"
Oof you crabs are all confident until someone wants to see you draw huh

>>4592613
I wrote this. This is mine >>4591455
>>4592633
PYW

>>4587177
I've studying how to draw faces and the planes and all that shit. It's actually really fun and I enjoy it alot.
But Now I can barely produce any finished work. I just sketch loomis heads all day and I have no want to draw what I want. When I have an idea and I start to sketch it out I start to think, "shouldn't you practicing?"

I'm in this endless loop of drawing the fucking planes of the head.

>>4592734
Jesus christ, You have to stop immidiately it's time to produce whatever kind of shit don't become a sketchmaster

>>4587211

god same dude... I love incest so fucking much...

but I have 4 siblings, 8 sets of aunts and uncles, and both my parents are alive. If any of my family ever found out that the main thing I enjoy doing is drawing incredibly graphic incest... god. I think I'd get killed.


I have absolutely zero feelings towards them IRL or even as a concept but shit dog, people can't differentiate fantasy from reality.

>>4593142
Will they execute you in an erotic way?

>be Me
>dunning kruger'd
>learning speed x5
>drawing whatever kind shit


I think it's out of control

>>4592692

>>4593187
At least you have the ballz. I respect that.

I haven't drawn anything in a few weeks and I should just give up because I can't draw for shit

All i have is drawing, i love drawing, it's the only fun thing i do, but i fucking hate art and everything surrounding it.
Especially the people.

>>4593493
I'm the exact same way, it feels like I'm trapped. I used to love drawing, but the pressure i've placed on myself trying to be successful has made me hate my art, my community, and myself. I want to quit, but it's the only thing I have going for me as a human being

>>4587382
>>4587382
it's not getting better

>>4587177
I've been shirking most of my responsibilities and ignoring relationships to get those sweet sweet art gains every day. Feels good man. But it's really annoying at the same time. My friends and family are almost all very clingy people that want to call a welfare check in on me because I don't respond to them for 24 hours. I'd understand if I didn't text back or call anyone for a few weeks maybe but this is ridiculous.

Thinking of cutting all ties and becoming a hermit so I can get my gains in peace.

>>4592734
i'm the same way but with floating human figures. it helps me to remind myself that what we're doing when we draw loomis heads and naked floating figures is just a parlour trick and nothing more. Real artists create content, like sorcerers and conjurors, they make lasting impressions on people. We are not performers of mere tricks like magicians are. Alan moore made some inpsiring remarks on the matter of art as magick that might be interesting, but it is a bit unrelated to your issues.

>Don't care about art fame or clout
>Don't care about making money with my art
>Just want to get better to draw things for myself
>Draw and do studies, every single day, every chance I get when I'm not working
>Isn't even a chore, it's more like a compulsive behaviour
>Still bad
>Can't see my own progress
>Still struggle with everything
>Still bad

>>4593831
>Trapped
That's how i feel, too.
It's difficult to explain but i really don't know how to get acknowledged for what i am/draw without selling out thus not being who i am.
Nobody gives a shit about others but they're all about selling themselves.

I will probably never quit drawing but thinking about how i will never reach anything beyond "a hobby" for things outside of my control is demoralizing.

>>4593493
art can be rebellion. you dont have to do with what theyre all doing, like their work, or go to the same institutions.

>>4593982
I'm lucky enough that the things I enjoy drawing also happen to be marketable, but that kinda makes it impossible to tell when I'm being genuine about what I want to be doing. i feel like a sellout even when I'm doing what I enjoy, just because other people happen to like it. I'm taking advantage of that fact to earn a living, but it's put me in a place where I feel like I can't truly express myself or branch out without risking all my success. just earlier today I tried doing something a little different just for fun, and one of my friends said it was the worst thing I had drawn in years

>>4593876
It's hard 2see ur own progress bud, but it's there. Trust

>>4593982
>>4594103
Every1 can cook but not every1 wants to be a Michelin chef. Yeah the skill would b cool to have, the aesthetics of livin in a french village being the best chef within 500 miles is cool... but the reality of the hot busy restaurant kitchen is not for everyone, it's fucking hell even for the toughest and most passionate.

I think it's the same with art. A lot of ppl here wanna be a dope artist and make some money but at the end of the day, if u dont make money, do u quit? Do u quit taking it seriously? Do u stop giving it energy because it does not give u the money u want? What about all the other shit it does for you?

4chan niggers typically think a lot about consequences and think logically a to b. Shit doesnt work that way. Art, if pursued with soul and heart, leads you to places you wouldnt believe. Keep drawing (but dont b bitter)

Holy fuck I can't draw sexy girls. Being a homosexual guy I don't even want to either if I'm being honest but its something I should be able to do if I ever want to be a competent artist. I think maybe it will be impossible for me, I don't find them attractive, when I try to draw them it's as boring as drawing a rock. Like I'm sure if I try i can make it accurate and without errors but i will never be able to get the feeling right. Eh maybe i will stop trying and draw exclusively guys.

>>4594137
art is getting me the money I want and I still fucking hate it, because I know that being popular doesn't automatically mean you're skilled. I'm complete garbage compared to plenty of other people in my community, so when people say they like my work I know it's only because of the way I pander to them.

how on earth do you pursue art with seriousness and conviction while also not caring about success?

>>4594197
So u are getting the money and popularity that u want, but not being fulfilled? What kind of success makes u fulfilled?... and I cant answer that for u.

My own definition of success in art rn:
>am I moving in the direction of finishing the 100 paintings I gave myself?
>am I learning 1 small thing each day?

Granted, I have a part time blue collar job so I do not worry about tryna be popular or make my art into a meal ticket

Anyways happy chasing anon, u can do it

>>4594014
True that but i wish it were that simple.
>>4594103
I don't think i could ever be at peace with that. Just the feeling of being afraid to make not even a mistake, but something different for a change and risk losing all at once, would be too much.
Makes me think it's not even worth the headache.
>>4594137
It goes way beyond than just money or fame, for me it has to do with the "essence" of being someone who expresses himself through what i do.

>>4594245
You're on your way my friend. Keep chiseling your marble until you become gods instrument of expression

>>4587177
i was that kid that always drew mediocre anime and normies treated me like a god for drawing beyond stick figures, so i thought i was talented
i'm 20 now and got super frustrated that my art had stagnated, there are 15 yr olds on tumblr drawing leagues better than me just in their silly marvel fanart
during quarantine i've started visiting /ic/ to improve, doing loomis, studies, etc and i'm realizing i actually know nothing about art. it's tough because being the artsy nerd was a big part of my persona, it's tough to swallow.
but i'm glad i have a sense of reality now and everyday i'm very excited to check /ic/ and do my studies and actually improve

>>4594261
Keep going bro

>>4587177
I can't stop clicking in every fuckin random youtube video, I'm going one after another aaaaaaaaaaaaah

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
how the dick is do i fill in transparency in gimp
i've ever only did it once and didn't jot down the instruction

i give up on art. i havent drawn anything for a week now. id rather play vidya and do mindless things.. sigh im too lazy

>>4594406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2UdO4xbfsA

>>4594261
>i was that kid that always drew mediocre anime and normies treated me like a god for drawing beyond stick figures, so i thought i was talented
Same shit, bro. The only difference i drew not anime, just cartoonish shit. Jesus, it's so painful when you open your eyes. To me it was so painful also because i always thought that i can draw and that's kinda my thing, ya know, something that's define you, the most important thing about you.
Well, shit.

>>4594497
That's the opposite, I want to color in transparency, resulting from a canvas resize.

>>4594495
>sigh

fuck off zoomer

>>4594557
>fuck off zoomer

fuck you boomer

>>4587179
Same, I hope it's because I use a screenless tablet. I have felt like this for 5 years.

I've begun to obsess over every new art-related purchase I make online because I cant physically examine them in the real world.
Every new tool I want to buy is a chore because I have to winnow through fake news on amazon, paid shills on YouTube, and Chinese fakery in the blogosphere to find actual, LEGITIMATE reviews of art supplies. Its made worse by the fact that companies often send reviewers better versions of the products than they sell at the retail level.
I have no idea who is lying to me anymore. Its horrible.
It didnt used to be like this.

I want to share my art but I only draw personal fetish bs so it's too embarrassing. What's the point then? I mean, it's fun and helps when I'm horny, but then I end up with a drawing I'd never post anywhere, meanwhile my friends show me their works all the time and post it on social media too... I'm one jealous pussy, dammit

why is posting art on the internet such a god damn mother fuck shit pain in the fucking ass I crammed out a piece so I could post at the right time of day then spent 20 minutes cropping images to squares then exporting then saving to mobile because instagram won't let you post more than one image from anything other than fucking mobile only for image compression to nuke the final product into oblivion and my engagement to tank anyway because I neglected my social media for other duties. And that was just for instagram. holy shit what a fucking chore I'm not even fucking around when I say I could have spent all that time drawing why can't it come to me as easily as those 17 year olds on tumblr who just brap out whatever art and get 30 gorillion notes

>>4594230
honestly I would gladly settle for just having fun with art again, but I have no idea how to do that. At least not without risking my income.

I'm insanely hard on myself for not being as good as the people I look up to because maybe if I were I would actually be happy with myself. But I know that isn't really true. It probably isn't possible to live up to the standards I've set for myself, and even if I did, I'd still probably hate my work. My skill level isn't the real issue, my relationship with art is

>>4595781
So stop using instagram then? Are you retarded or something?

>slowly built up the fucking courage to pick up the pen for the first time in a year
>draw gestures for 40 or so minutes
>wrist suddenly hurts like never before
Why is it doing this to me? Why is that literally every part of my body is fighting against me drawing? My brain gives me headaches, then tells me my life is worthless, convinces me that I don't even deserve to try and tries to make me kill myself, my stomach sends me to the bathroom for a fucking hour by the thought of drawing, then my whole body feels frozen like I was facing some life threatening danger, and when I defeat them all, there is always something else.

>>4587177
I hit myself in the head too many times playing videogames and I think I've suffered brain damage as a result. I lose attention and forget things way too quickly.

>>4595792
Maybe ur relationship with urself is unhealthy haha

TWELVE FUCKING HOURS A DAY FOR THE LAST THREE FUCKING WEEKS, SITTING IN FRONT OF MY TABLET AND I HAVE DRAWN NOTHING
If it's a fucking another art block I'm going to kill myself by bashing my head against a fucking wall, I just came out of a fucking four months art block, I don't need it to happen again!

My favorite artist makes good youtube videos but they're all fucking Japanese and autotranslate is shit

>>4596115
MAKE IT STOP. HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP AND JUST DRAW FOR TWELVE HOURS A DAY

>>4596115
lol

I just need to draw something that gets a bunch of anons interested all at once. I just need that one time and then I'll know I'm ready, and I'll be able to move on. I just don't know what it could be though.

The worst part of the corona shit is that I can't just go to the art store and buy random little things I need. I literally have to wait over a week to get a kneaded eraser when normally I could just run to the store and buy a few for $1 each within 15 minutes

I cannot draw anything anymore without getting fucking pissed off and tearing through my page
it looks wrong i cant see the shapes i dont know what im doing ill never be good at this what the fuck
i guess i just fucking hate drawing and my stupid quest to find shit that i dont absolutely fucking loathe to make a career out of is dead and my life has to be shit because my brain is fucked and i can't just suck it up and work a job that i dislike a little without feeling like shit all the time god damn it

My lower back hurts so fucking bad and the more I try to correct my posture and do stretches, it just feels like it's getting worse. I just want to feel useful by drawing but even that's too much to ask at this point.

I'm not used to being angry so I'm having a hard time focusing after things have been tense at home. I don't even want to lift my pen.

>>4587177
I JUST AGH WHY WON'T MY FINGERS DRAW THE FUCKING THING IN MY HEAD FUCK AHHJ FUCK I'M ASS AT THIS UOLY SHIT I JUST WANT TO DRAW A BADASS ROBOT COWBOY FUCKIN BUT IT'S NEVER GOOD ENOUGH AND ERRGHSISOFSHRRBFI

I fucking hate drawing so fucking much holy shit. I'ma just keep crying and drawing stupid fucking thick lines and my fucking shit style.

Pic related is shit i did earlier. It doesn't fucking look how I want it, but the shits already fucking inked.

I'm a fucking lazy ass faggot cuck artist.

Eh. I'll get better. Probably. Fuck i will gmi some day bros. Then I'll make a bitchin comic with stupid levels of obsurd action.

My drawings look boring for me unless I put 20 overlays on it and color lineart

>>4595159
What do you even need. It's not like you try completely new technique every week. I probably could pick up my usual materials blindly, but for stuff like acrylics I don't even see much different between brands and could pick whatever.
>>4596276
Chill out. You have pretty cool style, but you should digest some reference. Only pants and hat (slightly) say cowboy, nothing says robot. Gun is neither revolver nor futuristic, shoes doesn't read well, the bandage gives mummy vibes, vest is also neither futuristic nor from western.
You need to be more analytical about your work, instead of getting all emotional. Treat it as problem solving

>>4587177
>post pic related in /beg/ several times hoping for feedback
>no one responds
am i really that bad bros?

>>4596359
Take a better picture for starters

>>4596365
wish i could, lost the original drawing though

>>4596074
yeah probably

I hate myself for not having some productive skill as a kid. I feel like not having naturally drawn since forever means i'm ngmi

>>4587177
I bought a Huion Kamvas and the niggas sent me a message saying they didn't have it in stock in my country anymore
Now i'm here waiting for 2 weeks for my fucking money back while the dollar goes down and i'm gonna receive less money than what i sent
fuck this gay earth, i just wanted to draw on the same screen i saw shit, i HATE using normal tablets and i feel 0 confidence in my lines outside of papel where i SEE SHIT
FUCK ME

Why did jjba became the reddit of the anime? I just saw one of those sailor moon redraws in le
"work of an enemy stand xDDDDD" style with 300k likes on twitter

>>4596330
What are you even talking about. Technique?
I'm trying to buy decent, mid-tier colored pencils, that primarily oil-based, without spending a small fortune.
And unfortunately, I dont think open stock from a handful of pro-brands will cut it.
Everywhere I turn, I am assailed with middle-aged housewives using pro-tier supplies on facile crafts like coloring books or Tumblr-tier rejects putting badly drawn anime girls on craft paper. Very few knowledgeable people weigh in on art-supplies online and even forums devoted to these supplies are severely out of date.
And whats worse, because these smoothbrains have saturated Youtube market, companies target their channels to cater exclusively to their horrible needs. Even going as far as to change their product descriptions with their asinine buzzwords.
Im about to fold and buy some asian knock-offs. Hell, it worked for alcohol markers. It should work for pencils.

> but for stuff like acrylics I don't even see much different between brands

You dont really paint that often, do you? There is definitely a difference between acyrlics. Even common gouache can be good or bad.

>>4595781

Its possible to post from a browser, if you use Chrome. It takes some fuckery to upload images that way, but Ive done it before.

>>4596129

Whats their channel? Ive been enjoying mangamaterials on youtube and I want to see some more similar content.

>Haven't drawn or practised in 2 weeks, and I don't want to
>Easily self-defeating when I'm not isolated and alone
>Can barely draw shapes and lines correctly

Gods, I am weak. What is your go-to confidence and skill booster when you are essentially at rock bottom? I was thinking of constructing a schedule and basically starting for the very beginning again. Any tips that you want to throw in, feel free.

>>4595781
use f12
if you're not incredibly stupid, you should be able to figure out yourself
dont forget to convert your pics to jpeg or else it won't upload

>>4596129
My favorite artist makes good youtube videos but they're all fucking Japanese and autotranslate doesn't even apply because they are over 4 hours long

>>4587227
Sketch more, and faster.

Something that helped me was getting an 24"x"18" pad of newsprint, a charcoal pencil, and grinding out 1-5 minute gestures until it was full.

Really helps you stop caring about the little failures.

>>4596754
Do you use any resources for gestures senpai?

>>4596757
Got all the memes, Proko's gesture videos are pretty good.

Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Micheal Hampton has a great section on it.

Get that giant pad, use Line of Action for figures, and draw for like ~30 minutes, maybe even 10 minutes to start. It's honestly mentally exhausting at first. Don't pause between gestures for more than it takes to flip over to a new page when needed. After your time is up, look back on your work and critique were you did well and where you failed.

Eventually, you'll start spotting gestures you're proud of.

>>4596554
Anime exposure does that. It's why anime only fags are the most insufferable groups - full with manchildren and weeaboos. Unfortunately, the other retards who determine the quality of work via the fan base ends up not watching JJBA either.

>>4589536
Maybe you can try to meditate/dissociate while looking at pics.

>>4592157
Read a book or a fanfic idk.

>Leave mosquito alive
>Mosquito bites hands over night
>Hands itch when drawing
Why Mr Mosquito

>>4597163
Same, but my mosquito bites me on my thighs. I don't even know how it gets down there at night.

>>4597163
Fucking sneaky bastards they are, I flood my room all day with poison only for them to eat me alive at night when I sleep.

>>4597163
Gotta feed the babbies my nigga

>>4594137
>It's hard 2see ur own progress bud, but it's there. Trust
I hate this fucking meme. If there was any progress I wouldn't be struggling with the very same things

I want to draw in the modern cal arts style but I don’t have the money to go there. And at 65 I’m too old to go to college again.

>>4597177
>>4597163
screen doors on every opening in your house
kill them viciously everytime you see them

>>4587177
Seeing bad artists try to red-line or fix slightly worse artists' work makes me cringe

>>4597163
Sorry to be autismo, but only female mosquitoes bite. Males are vegetarian.

cheap chinese tablet disconnect reconnect disconnect reconnect USB malfunction aaaAAAAA

serves me right

>>4597163
>mosquitoes bite him
NGMI

>>4596586
Ok you amerifats got too much choice and still complain. Just buy whatever's considered artist's grade and try it out, everyone has personal preferences anyway and they can vary greatly. Everyone has their things they are anal about, but I've seen a good drawing made with cheapest watercolor. Some shill won't tell you what is the most comfortable for you, you have to find your favorites in practice
>You dont really paint that often, do you? There is definitely a difference between acyrlics. Even common gouache can be good or bad.
I have different tubes from different brands and never felt much difference between ones supposedly good and the cheapest ones.

I know this sounds incredibly stupid or batshit insane, but. Do you guys ever pretend your asian so you'll make huge art gains? I'm white american and I have an alternate persona called "John Lee Kim" whos Korean american and I pretend i'm him sometimes, I don't think I have multiple personality disorder, I just want asian art gains like >>4591482 Is all. And the way I see it, if I really believe and fool myself into thinking i'm asian then maybe i'll make it sooner or later, or maybe i'm just crazy, probably both.

>haven't drawn in a week
>next drawing looks better than when I was drawing each day

>>4597923
I have mongol blood in me. Does this makes me asian?

>>4597928
Do you have black hair and slanty eyes? If so then most definitely.

>>4597932
Not really, I have light hair and blue eyes and my grandpa was blonde. However parents of my grandma were mongols.

>>4587177
I'm getting really lonely during quarantine and it's starting to affect my patience with doing art. Where do I find discord art gf?

>>4597923
hahaha holy fuck

>>4597923
I pretend I'm a mutt so I can have soul and freedom

>>4598066
Actually technically it's possible, it's called The Placebo Effect. The tl;dr is if you fool yourself into believing something for long enough it can come true. Obviously i'll never actually be asian (unless I get expensive plastic surgery). But in theory if I keep pretending everyday that i'm asian, then mentally it will come true. I'm already able to do 3-4 hours of art each day at minimum and 6-8 hours at maximum, so slowly I will reach asian discipline. Also in theory if I can develop an authentic "asian artstyle" and as long as I never do a face reveal then I can larp as an asian on social media and no one will be none the wiser. And if they ask why I can't speak moonrune i'll just say that I never got around to learning it, but that i'm korean american

Oh and I have also begun dying my hair black

https://youtu.be/udJ31KKXBKk

I just suck fucking bad at art and everything and I'm so ugly and lonely and it's just hard

>>4598128
yea, i'll believe i can flap my arms and fly, wish me luck

>>4591482
kek he literally wrote that he want to be praised

>>4597942
yeah man, sure, you are 5% asian, gj, now pyw

>>4597923
Jesus Christ anon

>Pirate updated photoshop so I can have the fancy new features like better content aware fill
>The version that was posted has a major bug on my operating system
>Cant find the newer version with it fixed
AHHH

>>4596591
https://youtu.be/yiRUFr6EFoQ
This guy.
Yea i saw her channel good shit with subtitles
>>4596745
4 hours youtube videos. So streams?

>>4598722
>>4596591
>>4596129
Cringe, you self-hating faggots realize there's english material on manga/anime too right? With artists just as good if not better. Going out of your way to find japs you don't understand is just a mark of hyper weaboo autism, end yourselves.

>>4598067
Hey I do this too!

>>4598504
>update photoshop
>it runs like shit

>>4598875
Lmao what like mark criley

>>4598875
>With artists just as good if not better
At least make your shitposts believable. Post a example so I can laugh.

>>4599070
>>4599064
Not better as in more accolades or better artistically, in terms of learning material obviously in a language you can understand would be inherently better you self loathing faggots.

>>4599080
Then they're not better.

Also all of thosr art books say the same shit (I spent time translating some books for myself and it's literally all the same aside from the forewords in there sometimes about the artists personal life bullshit). You can learn just fine from the pictures in a good anime anatomy book if you already have some background in anatomy anyways.

If you can't learn from diagrams and pictures you are mega /beg/ and don't need to be reading those books about stylization right now anyways.

>>4599086
Pyw

>>4599094
>He doesn't have a good response
>Resorts to "pyw"
AHAHAHAHAHAHA dumb crabby-kun! You just ousted yourself as a NGMI

I'm tired of blogposting.

Fucking hate beg ngmis who try to defend their inadequacy by showing pro artists that they think have a similar problem but actually don't. They can't even tell the difference between an artist that has a good grasp on the fundamentals and those who don't, so any reasonable argument will fall on deaf ears simply because they don't understand. Examples include that chicken scratching thread and that "post advices that are complete bull" thread from way back.

>>4599126
Also what the fuck is up with pyw? Just post your fucking work. You can point out if they don't have a good response along with your work anyway.

everyone tell to quit art, but no one tells how to qut art. everytime it feels like betrayal and I end up coming back, because what if I still can make it? I can't waste this chance, no matter how slim it is

>graduating from University in the midst of a global pandemic
>Can't find a fucking job because no one is fucking hiring anymore obviously
>For some reason after four years of my artistic drive being shot I finally wanted to start drawing again beginning a few weeks ago, probably in part due to this

Drawing used to be a large part of my identity before university (despite being shit at it) and it felt really bad to lose all motivation for it once I got to undergrad, felt like I had no energy to do anything but play video games after the shit I did every day. Feels good to finally want to improve at drawing again but I can't help but be sad about all the time and potential gains I've missed out on

>>4599188
don't quit art, quit this place and only use it for resources.

>>4599188
Hope is a bitch

It's so fucking difficult to know where I stand. I can draw from reference okay, my knowledge of anatomy is okay, my gesture drawings are okay, my knowledge of perspective is okay. Where to I go from here? I find it difficult to know exactly what to do when I sit in front of my computer to draw. Do I do more studies? Do I move on to painting or something? Environments? I don't even know if I should be leaving the /beg/ threads yet. It feels like I'm still not even decent but I don't know what to do now, I feel lost. It's almost like I feel frozen because "can't do any real drawings yet I still have to grind more fundies" but I feel borderline empty while doing them. I don't hate them but I can't make myself do personal work because Im scared it'll come out looking like shit because I haven't done enough grinding yet.

>>4599231
You have to do personal work to know what to study.

>Used to be really good at art, graduated from school, had mad gains, achieved a satisfactory level of skill
>Didn't draw for over a year because I was in an abusive relationship and they didn't like me spending time drawing instead of spending time on them
>Lost all of my hard earned gains
>Try to draw again but it's all shit, I forgot so much in only one year
>Art friends from school ask to see my recent work
>Never show them because I'm ashamed
>Meanwhile they're all doing well because they never stopped drawing

Kill me

I fucking hate how Twitter is the defacto standard for posting art and expecting anyone to see it. Fuck the faggots who use Twitter, and fuck the faggots who run Twitter and make it worse over time. Subumans, all of them.

I keep buying and buying and buying electronics and gizmos to try and fill some void of loneliness but it’s only slightly working. I would buy tons of art supplies that only seldom get used. I would buy expensive courses and never take them. I would start a tv show and leave it on hold even if it’s a really good show. I’m trying absolutely everything from killing myself. I even thought the problem was no sex so I bought some artificial pussy cups and it still wasn’t enough. I splurged on a $200 onahole for a better experience yesterday and even I’m having my doubts that will do anything.

I have random spurts of motivation then it goes away in a few hours. Then I was thinking perhaps I removed religion out of my life. Every time I tell myself to give god thanks a voice in my head keeps repeating “fuck god, fuck god, fuck god, he didn’t do this for you”. Maybe I’m being attacked by some SEEIA project or something. But at this point maybe it really is the dismissal of religion? I stopped saying my grace before I eat ever since I was somewhere in between 13 or 14. I stopped going to church much earlier. And every time we have a group prayer as a family I feel agony. I just don’t know anymore but I’ll try slowly praying/virtual church on sundays to see if that helps.

Woke up to no /anime study thread/ but don't have the op to make a new one.
Someone pls, I need the mega link full of tuts to practice aesthetic clothes folds.

>>4587377

Think of it like this bb. Draw 2 hours, break. Come back fresh, critique your work a bit, draw two hours. Repeat ad infinitum. Also, it helps to take a day’s break once a week. Your brain helps you learn a lot on the day you aren’t drawing - it’s like working out any muscle, most of the growth happens when you’re sleeping/not using it, after you’ve exerted it a good bit.

>>4593840

Don’t cut ties bb but do let them know that you’re usually away from your phone, family and friend ties are very important to maintain.

>>4599521
Go to the archive and copy paste it.

>>4599374
You have no purpose and u cling to a sort of purpose by making art, an act of creating that puts u closer 2 the creator

I don’t fucking know how to get my art OUT there and I don’t know how to get it in a gallery and none of my friends aren’t exactly in any gallery.

I did 2 online exhibitions recently before I graduated uni but I don’t have any clue on how to transition professionally. I don’t wanna be stuck in some dead end ad agency job forever

I'm terrified of making my own art blog because I don't want /ic/ to make threads about me in the future. I've been putting it off for so long.
I know it sounds stupid but whenever I see these anons making threads being cruel and tearing apart artists, I imagine myself as them and how awful I would feel.
I've been browsing this place for too long.

>>4599521
stop hating your glorious western culture for weaboo garbage.

>>4597923
I'm gonna start doing this
John Lee Kim is gonna make it bros

>>4598875
>good english material on manga/anime
Ok where I'm curious

I masturbated 4 times in 24 hours....

>>4600312
Get a hobby man

>>4600312
women fap 4 times in 24 hours too, but only once every three months

>>4599231
what do you LIKE to draw?

>>4600345
truth

>>4599710
fuck, thanks, i hadn't even thought about this but now it's a new fear

>>4600418
I mostly do like to do figure drawing but really I appreciate lots of forms of art - mechs, cars, environmental design, landscapes, creature design, etc - I'd love to be able to dip into all of these things because more than anything I want to be able to draw shit that looks cool to me, but I'm almost too afraid to even try because I know it'll look like shit. I don't know how to get started because I feel like I'm far past the dunning kruger peak mentally, but my skills haven't caught up yet so I hate everything I make and it makes me want to not even finish half the things I start. I can tell that it's handicapping my growth immensely

>>4600453
Everyone's art looks like shit in the beginning. Practice your fundies and you'll get there.

>>4597923
I feel like this is the thing where you would pretend you were a youtuber when you were a kid and commentate over what you were doing in your head so I can relate, still kinda strange tho

So I’ve finally paid to see a psychiatrist to get a formal diagnosis on ADD next Wednesday. I know I have it and it’s been fucking with my Art. Had I been diagnosed and medicated at 15 (when I first started drawing) I would’ve been an absolute God by now. (21). But it’s alright. Hopefully by Wednesday forward my life will change.

>>4599710
>>4600434

Look at it on the bright side. IF you are popular enough to get reposted by some crabs on /ic/, then by then you would’ve already established some Art friends and a community that will always be your support. You should already have a group of people that can hopefully be a replacement of this board if you’re at that level.

The only ones who get posted here and people who have made it.

>>4590430
You just summed up the reason why I draw perfectly in this one post. I will save it and reference it on occasion.

>>4591252
YOU SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT I USED YOUR COMPLACENCY AS MOTIVATION TO GRIND HARDER SO I CAN CALL MYSELF A HARD WORKER AND SURPASS YOU

>>4598128
Alter Egos are a powerful thing and are the foundation of all personal transformative practices.

>check newgrounds frontpage from time to time
>it's the same 10 fucking people getting posted every time
Are they paying for it or just sucking admins cocks?

I WANT TO DRAW BUT MY ART STILL SUCKS.

venting is for faggots, get back to drawing

>>4600653
They're the only 10 left on the site

>Draw one perfect eye
>Botch the entire rest of the drawing

If I had a dollar for every time this shit happened and shot me outta the sky from learning, I'd probably be able to get a decent meal.

>>4598128
the placebo effect is used to describe medicine not your mental illness coping mechanism jesus christ kill yourself larping retard

I wasted all my fucking day again doing literally nothing but fattening my already enormous assbags while browsing this shitty ass website and playing videogames I don't even enjoy and it's already 5am fucking kill me I'll just draw for a few hours now before I drop dead with tears in my eyes.

i want to make music and art but i feel like im so bad i can't even get started or show other people to get help on getting better

>>4600847
Nigga put the videogames down. Once you play games less it's incredilby easier to start doing other stuff, games take up the most time easily.

>>4600851
that's quite literally exactly what i've been doing for the past 2 months music and art, it's all a learning process anyway getting better at shit then you get quicker. it's fun

i feel like im ruining drawing for myself by having to pretend that i really care about making my art look conventionally good. im secretly autistic enough to enjoy all sorts of things that come off as really stupid to most people, but I can't act on that without losing all my friends and hating myself for being too lazy to make "Good Art" even when it isn't what i truly find enjoyable to make

I've discovered that cell-shading+airbrush gives me nice looking results that I personally enjoy. Process is quick too, I can shit out a fully colored drawing in like 10 minutes (which is great since i'm slightly colorblind). But, it all just feels extremely lazy? Like I see incredible Korean artists pump out beautiful life-like paintings that take them hours just to apply the base colors, and here I am doing pretty much the bare minimum. It really feels like i'm going down the wrong path, i'm doing what makes me comfortable instead of pushing the medium. I'll probably kill myself if my art looked exactly the same 5-10 years later.

>>4601120
I'll b ur friend

>>4601120
literally everyone you talk to online is going to be as autistic as you retard

>>4601196
i wouldn't say that, you seem pretty well-adjusted after all

I'm fine, I'm happy, I'm not hurt, I'm not lonely, it's not affecting me with art so there is nothing to worry about. I was being dramatic so really I am happy and there's nothing for me to feel like I should stop.

From my post earlier about church, I finally forced myself to sit through a session for about 45 minutes. The first 1 minute felt like a real chore and I just didn’t like the live pastor I clicked on, felt too fake. I then clicked on another pastor and it took me 5 minutes before I eased into it. The black pastors seem to be more “uplifting” than white pastors, just throwing that out there. Anyway, it wasn’t that bad and the topic was interesting and definitely changed my mood a bit so I’ll keep doing this every Sunday.

>>4598128
>But in theory if I keep pretending everyday that i'm asian, then mentally it will come true.
Seek help.

>>4601833
Laugh all you want, but there are undeniably some artists that could pull off "being asian" if they wanted to larp as an asian for some reason. Andrew Cockroach is one of them. He had me fooled until I saw his face.

Also, not saying that he larped as an asian by the way. I'm just saying if he wanted to, he could have pulled it off.

>>4587177
mfw sexy ig thot with 53k followers likes my drawing of her. ^^ feels good man

>>4601766
You are alone. You have no friends

why am i so fucking slow

>>4603448
lose some weight

As someone who has nearly died in industrial accidents, been held at gunpoint and even skiied off a fucking cliff I am really tired of reading stories about peoples bullshit first world problems.

No I dont fucking care that your job at starbucks is depressing, write some shit about caving in a billionaire pedophiles skull with a fucking bowling ball so you can steal some state secrets, yknow, INTERESTING SHIT.

>>4601766
Eat a gun barrel like its a dick. Except you probably dont own a gun cause youre a virgin. So go out for a walk instead. AND CLEAN YOUR FUCKiNG ROOM!

>>4596276
Hat needs to be bigger, thats literally all I would change.

I haven't drawn for two weeks now and I have no desire to pick up the pen