/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4585075
first for are these threads worth me posting to?

>>4585080
I don't think anyone's learn a single thing from the start of these threads desu.

>>4585098
Don't be unfair. I improved my Japanese a little by reading/watching some of the materials.

hey lads, who wants a free red line?

>>4585120
redline this please
>>4585120

Obscure question
A few months ago I saw an (art)book on traditional japanese / chinese dresses / fashion manga styles, but I can't find it anymore

Essentially it was just a collection of reference images for stylized traditional dresses and character designs

anybody happen to know what I'm talking about

>>4585151
Well shit it was removed from pretty much all bookstores

I'm guessing it was just a collection of artwork they didn't have the rights for

>>4585080
The whole point of these threads basically just boils down to
>Get over your symbol drawings and do your loomis
>Then copy anime and copy anime and copy anime and copy anime and copy anime and copy anime and copy anime and copy anime
>Eventually you'll be ok
which is literally how art in general works

just came across arcsys artist streaming some illustrations for may, rachel, and es if you want to see some process stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm0Fv5WI03o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUqxk3MslU

I've been trying both exercises. The tips yesterday allowed me to capture the essence of a pose more easily. Still struggling with the grid exercises since I'm not accurate which in turn also affects my thumbnails (I either go too big from the get go or fail to fit everything within the square). The good thing is I'm having fun and feel like I'm improving my eye little by little with each attempt. Thanks again if you're reading this, I would also like to ask how to properly define the big angles of a piece at the start before beginning, since the pigtail girl was the only one with clearly defined angles.

Is this really that bad? >>4584882 I'm feeling pretty discouraged.

>>4585237
Yes, but that doesn't mean you should get discouraged, it means you need to draw more

>>4585237
Do not feel discouraged friend, I share your pain. Are you drawing from reference or imagination?

>>4585251
That was from my imagination. I was trying to do a contrapposto pose. I feel like just copying is too much in my comfort zone but obviously I still need to do it more.

the discord and /asg/ threads seem very quiet lately

Guys what is the brush you use for folds?

>Inb4 ThE bRUrSH wOnt dO iT fOR yOU

I know, but what I mean is that some artist have some amazing gradation, but the brush I use in csp doesn't seem to cut it and it's giving me a ugly blocky effect.

Any help?

>>4585258
I might not be the most qualified artist but since thread is very much silent I can offer some insights about contraposto, don't mind the terrible line quality, I'm trying to use pens more often to improve line confidence. The shoulder line and the waist line point different directions (not parallel) this makes one of the sides of the body compress and the other extend, the weight bearing leg should be on the compressed side otherwise the pose will be unnatural, regarding arms the most important part is that the elbow joint should be able to trace an arch from point where the ribs end, got that one from the Araki book, never be afraid to use as much references as possible.

>>4585397
I use the g-pen for everything, but I played with the settings a bit.
>ugly blocky effect.
Uh, turn up anti-aliasing? Draw in a bigger canvas?

>>4585075

>>4585408

>>4585408
Is this real Mikoyan art or own work with adopted style. If the second, you did a very good job

>>4585416
it's mikoyan, I could only wish to get anywhere remotely close to that

his style shares similarity with niku ringo's

>>4585421
I know. Big fan of both

>>4585425
I truly don't understand the obsession with nose hook but the rest makes up for it

I heard the "Sketching with manga style" is a good read, but the way the volumes were released has stuff thats more advanced in the initial ones, and beginner stuff in the later volumes.

>>4585397
I use a brush called 鉛筆R. It feels like a slightly modified rough pencil.

>>4585618
>feels like
It IS a modified rough pencil

Fucked around with some copics for fun, might draw the rest of this.

>>4585652
eye sizes are funky but looks good. i bought some a year ago and have barely touched them but i'll work on some today.

>>4585665
Yeah I fucked the eyes up a bit, the joys of freehanding with a pen, it was more an exercise in using copics, as I too have collected a few of them, and barely used them, I think the last time was this pic in early 2019:

Are these threads worth posting to

>>4585075
New Manga materials video, she dropped some black pills in it.

https://youtu.be/6-IsmyzaUPc

>>4586207
What are the black pills? I find her really difficult to listen to and watch because she just seems to shill her materials instead of drawing or teaching.

>>4586207
This is me. FUCK!

>>4586528
>>4586528
her entire titty shouldnt be visible within the shirt.
also clean up the lines and stabilize your line work, it'll make your art look much less /beg/ tier

hope this helps

instead of doing that sailor moon redraw I did this one. I think I learned something about shading hair. Followed some guide I found for the filters

>>4587206
whoops

>>4585412
>>4585416

this is the stuff that got deleted

Is it still possible to make it if you don't have some wacky online personality or draw flavor of the month stuff?

>>4587285
it's possible to make it if you can draw, the more you can draw the less you have to do the former, just be an obscure talent charging more per piece

>>4587210
I would be honored if you did. But I'm a bad artist so I don't see why you would.

>>4587296
I only save drawings here to post later in cringe threads.

I wish i could i say i didn't try, but i did.

How do you guys draw eyes?
Mines look either too tall or too wide and idk what to do.

>gotten pretty good at constructing loomis heads free-form
>completely break down when trying to use loomis' method to copy reference anime heads

go on without me, I'm not gonna make it

>>4587327
Watch mikeymegamega's head tutorials and pay attention to the way he constructs heads, that's what worked for me

>>4587333
I have no problem constructing anime heads from imagination

But I'm trying to study existing art, so when I use that method I get a fine looking head but it's wayyy off from what I'm trying to copy

i really liked that pinnochioP ghost miku so i drew her

>>4587321
If you try you will GMI

>>4587308
Would still be an improvement. I'm on that bitter spot where everything gets ignored.

>>4587346
this is nice

>>4587346
why does everything you make look unfinished

>>4587417
probably the rendering and the lack of detail in the lines. i want to go for this graphic painting style but it's a little weird to make work sometimes, i've thought about adding a couple soft edges in very select situations in the future

>>4587417
Looks pretty finished to me. Finished works don't have to be "clean"

>>4587417
it's the weird pillow shading

Does learning figure drawing help with draw animu characters?

copy more anime

>>4587708
i think so

>>4587736
lol, i merged her arm with her legs. need to slow down

>>4587736
please do a full scan of the mongoloid furry creature in the middle

>>4587778
don't speak about my wife in that manner

how do i draw like tkmiz

>Start improving a little on the exercise
>Actually begin to understand what's wrong with my eye measurements
>Reducing grid
>Improving on measuring angles
Its the little things. But I feel like I've improved a little these past days. Gonna keep at it. Thanks GMI anon.

>>4587210
Nigga this is a fuckin image board, get that "artists property" shit out of here.

>>4587814
For people using clip studio, you can use the built-in grid and adjust grid settings to make them more fine/smaller. also snap brushes to the grid. i was using this for my kanji practice but also drawing
https://youtu.be/f_kkvWbl9f8?t=120

a quick study i do sometimes for warmup is block out the shape, try to draw it, then turn the grid on to check what parts i got wrong at the end. you can start noticing patterns in places you over or underexaggerate. i don't focus on meticulous copy, just roughly getting in shapes, mileage, and playing with lines. low risk fun and adjusting back into digital.

I use CSP as well. I was struggling for this with for some time as using grid to perfectly subdivide whatever I throw at it proved to be quite inconvinient and drawing the lines even with snap to ruler added extra hassle for smaller subdivisions. What I ended up doing for grids is.
>File > Preferences > Layer/Frame > Set frame border gutters to 0 px. You only need to do this once
>Grab whatever picture you want
>Make new Frame Border Folder layer
>Layer > Ruler Frame > Divide Frame Border Equally
>Now you can set any sort of vertical and horizontal divisions that will match perfectly whatever picture you want. Set divide folder to do not change
>Turn this grid into a raster layer. duplicate. extend the canvas
Turned most of these steps into an auto action. Apparently there used to be a tool for doing this directly in rulers but its gone in newer versions.

i-is turning the paper for horizontal lines illegal

>>4587909
No rules. Just tools. Turns out most artists depending on their dominant hand have a much easier way doing lines in a specific direction. Everyone rotates the paper or canvas, its perfectly normal

>>4587889
I remember something like that but I don't need it enough. If I need lines I add a horizontal and vertical ruler and draw them myself. I really wish there was an option for holding shift and having it do vertical/horizontal like in Photoshop. I never use the shift functionality that CSP has for connecting two points. My next thing to learn is probably the 3D figure viewer or go back to my previous life of 3D and use blender instead.

>>4587909
You're supposed to turn the paper to make it easiest to do the lines you can. Everyone has a natural geometry that makes it easiest to do the straightest lines or ellipses. Usually it's like 30-45 degrees and it's easier to draw away from you versus towards your body.

>>4587323
And no one answered my question.

>>4587323
>>4587938
If this is the case its probably more related of your eyes being on the wrong proportion related to the head. Can you provide an example?

>>4587909
yes the paper police will arrest you

>>4587339
The point of a study isn't to create an exact copy, it's to gain an understanding of how that artist works and to learn something. Doesn't matter if the end result looks good or not as long as you accomplished that.

If you really want to learn how to draw like a specific artist, do lots of quick studies of their work and compare your versions to the pieces you're trying to study and think about what you can do differently next time to get a closer match. Then experiment with different approaches until you get something more accurate.

Hey mates, does anyone want to give any advice for the two drawings before I start cleaning them up?

>>4588072

>>4588072
that it looks like tumblr art and not anime at all

>>4588072
>>4588074
Its the first pose from reference?

>>4588079
Helpful.

>>4588086
Thank you

>>4588097
You are welcome. I was asking because the 2 legs seems to have different thickness

>trying to study an artist who intentionally uses wrong perspective

It's like trying to read out loud the actual color of the font in pic related

https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

Why doesn't he mention the words "perspective", "construction", or "Loomis" anywhere in this interview?

>>4588946
because 99% of others youtubers don't either

>>4588946
All their videos starts with construction and the animator guy, which is the better artist in that channel will mention perspective every now and then, nice try though, anon.

>>4589011
I don't get what you're saying. He was asked multiple questions about how he practiced in school, what he practices now, etc, and he answered them. Why didn't he mention any time he spent fundies grinding? He did mention drawing quick poses of models, maybe you'd count that as fundies grinding.

>>4589025
tldr about what he practiced in school and what he practices now?

>>4589020
>All their videos starts with construction
Example? Which channel are you talking about specifically?

>>4589031
Draw life models, copy your favorite artists, fill up a thousand sheets a year, "when drawing from imagination just try to draw what is in your head and you will get better over time", that's about it.

>>4589032
The channel that uploaded this video, check their videos on pro vs noob or their timelapses ones if you want to skip their talking

>>4589041
he knows about perspective, if he learned without any fundies then props to him. but big doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2XkrD_0BCg

>>4589039
>Draw life models, copy your favorite artists, fill up a thousand sheets a year,(...)
Nothing says he didn't apply constructions or perspective on his drawing. And considering how all of their other drawings starts with constructions proves that he had to learn art fundies in the past.

>>4589049
So why did he not talk about fundies books when he was talking about how he learned, but he did mention copying other artists?

>>4589063
I don't know, ask him.

>>4589063
he might not even have used a book, but be taught by someone with fundie knowledge, like a professor or another artist using him as assistant for, i don't know, screen toning?

Does that effective art study guide actually work? I'd like to see progress from someone who's followed it.

>>4589258
find asukafag's posts

>>4589275
Do they use a name or am I just going to be spending hours scrolling through the archive on a blind hunt?

>>4589281
spend hours on /beg/ and maybe /asg/ too

>>4589289
Sounds awful. I think I'll just draw instead.

>>4589311
Nobody has noticeably improved from /ic/ in years anyway.

>>4589316
Fair enough. Thank you, I'll be going now.

>>4589316
Projecting your own failure again, anon?

>>4589412
Show me one person from /ic/ that has remotely improved. You can't. Tehmeh doesn't count.

>>4589412
You're saying you have actually improved? If so, pyw.

>>4589445
I think I improved a bit since Jan 2019

>>4589468
can't tell which side is before and after. only retards put the after on the left

>>4589480
I'm not sure what makes you post this way, but my point is that there are people who improve here if they're trying to do so

>>4589491
we live in a society

Thoughts?

>>4589761
she looks like she's constipated

>>4589468
bird a cute!

I would like to think I've improved. But I don't see it despite drawing constantly
>tfw already wasted my company lunch by drawing instead but still bad

>>4590103
pyw

>>4590104
I just attempted to copy the girl on the OP of the /sqt/ just now and then tried to rotate it.

>>4590140
Not him but you'll do well in time, dont worry

>>4589766
Lol thanks but I guess I don't understand why?

>>4589761
I'd lose the lines under the eyes indicating bags. The shading you've already got should indicate bags well enough, the lines just make her look old. Less can be more sometimes.
Also you should work on drawing necks/collarbones, in particular making them look more three dimensional - that way you can have the strand of hair falling over her body more naturally. Look at how artists you like deal with the neck area.

>>4590209
I think it's bags and the grin man

just looks like someone who's had enough of some unpleasant and reoccurring events, kudo on the finish work and rendering

>>4590192
I do worry, a lot. I think I started somewhere within the nd of 2018 and everyone who started there or after that is way better than me. Granted I had to stop for 6 months in order to move to another country and get a job but I don't think that's a valid excuse. I've a terrible creeping fear of being incapable of making it whatsoever for reasons that I ignore and are beyond my control.

>>4590229
Are you the person that had problems with his tablet last thread? Are you FlanC20 on twitter?
I think you're doing just fine for the time you've been drawing.

>>4590219
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time!

>>4590220
Thanks for the laugh, looking at it and imagining it being the face after long day of stacking papers or something is hilarious. Also appreciate the input!

>>4590229
You can research real life anatomy on your off time when you don't feel like drawing, it'll really help you draw anime later imo, but anyhoo just keep drawing and don't worry about not seeing progress daily or seeing others progress whatever. What's most important is that you draw

is it ok if i do all of my studies and practice drawing on print paper?

>>4590235
I'm surprised and a bit spooked about someone being able to make that connection from paper drawings. Thank you for the kind words however.
>>4590239
Thank you for the tip. I already dedicate some time to practice from real non stylized anatomy and reference but having an anatomy book on the bedside sounds like a good idea as well.

>>4590296
The way you draw faces is just very recognizable.

could somebody help me with the perspective and placement of those ears, cause I'm pretty sure that my reference also got the right ear completely wrong

>>4590323
did you try loomis

>>4590237
It's not problem man, my salutations.

>>4590323
you have a bigger issue, which is the size and shape of the cranium, and the front of the face in relation, for example look at the space from the eyebrows to the top of the head on your copy, and the same space on the original, and additionally the gap between the edge of the face and the left eye
you need to do loomis like the other guy said, or huston. i recommend huston, there are videos in the video course thread where he shows how to construct the head using basic shapes

>>4590468
additionally, i recommend doing your copies on paper when you are at this level. there's a whole ton of reasons why, but basically you will improve faster, i don't know why but you will

>>4590279
printer / copy paper? yes

>>4588946
>interview with pianist
>why doesn't he mention "scales" "notes" or "middle C" anywhere in this interview?

>>4590468
I actually did (try to) use loomis, which is how I've ended up with the elongated face (I used 3rds for the eyebrows / nose / lip / chin) instead of the more cutesy and more compressed face of the original

Whenever I use loomis to copy existing art I usually get the proportions wrong during initial construction which then also fucks up the refinement phase

The gap at the eye I had already (kind of) fixed
I'll try working on paper though and see if that helps

Wow, simple shading is actually really easy if you just copy people and understand what they're doing. I wasn't expecting it to be so easy. The only hard part is getting the colour the way that you want (if it's not B&W). Too bad I can't really draw anything fully at the moment, but this will make face details and bodyparts look nicer.

>>4589443
Why doesn't Tehmeh count.
Also I think I remember a really good post by Tehmeh with improvement advice, does anyone have that saved?

>>4590480
If a musician played nothing but scales for hundreds of hours and they felt that this was critical to their improvement then I would damn well expect them to mention scales when someone asked them for advice.
So now the fundies conspiracy has two levels.
>artists don't draw out full constructions because they've done it so much that it's second nature
And
>if you ask an artist how to improve, they won't tell you about practicing fundies because it's just so obvious

>>4590468
Show how to apply Loomis to that ref

I've been in these threads for so long that I think I developed a fetish for deformed anime girls.

>>4591223
Never mind I found it.
Kinda not the advice I was expecting. I've swung back more towards believing in the power of studies over imagination recently. I do think it's important to do both though. And I agree with the line about drawing being mostly intuition.

>>4591225
From my experience it seems like every artist has different ways of doing things.
"fundies" are important, but the way that people learn and practice them is so different that you can't really rely on other people to figure it out for you.
Just find what works for you and run with it.
There are plenty of artists who have no clue about perspective whatsoever, they just learned perspective through copying so many other artists that it became second nature to them without knowing all the rules.
Does that mean that knowing the rules is wrong? No, it's just a different approach to the same concept.

>>4591244
I do acknowledge that that guy really did the full on perspective grid setup when he was drawing a background. Obviously perspective has been a valuable tool for him as far as backgrounds goes.

>>4591222
That's the biggest struggle. Unfortunately most of the people here on /ic/ didn't follow the basic advice of doing ctrl paint for digital. Anyone can renderfag but drawing (painting and linear drawing) is what takes years to master. It takes years of studies and experimenting, having eureka moments along the way. There's only guidance people can give, the rest you have to figure out for yourself.

The biggest trap noobs seem to fall into is trying to go straight to anime rendering which has a ton of filters and post processing after the fact before they even understand hard and soft round brushes. They don't understand why the artists do the things they do, they just copy. Starting with the basic Western methods like tiling and still life really trains your eye to see color and temperature shifts. You need to practice anime rendering but don't neglect the other styles and color theory because they all feed into your improvement.

>>4590505
You may be using loomis wrong, don't use his proportions for realistic drawings to draw anime faces, tweak it to match an anime face by going over an anime face you like from someone, deconstruct its face then analyze its proportion using the loomis method of construction.

>>4591283
I will sound like a newfag, but I've never heard of Ctrl Paint before. Is it good/worthwhile?

>>4585110
baka ningen

>>4591283
>Unfortunately most of the people here on /ic/ didn't follow the basic advice of doing ctrl paint for digital.
I did. Discovered that my tooling plays against me at every turn and just went back to drawing because I'm making progress there, I can use paper and pencils which is pretty straightforward and there is still several things for me to improve. For some reason rendering its extremely hard for me, specially on digital, I must be king of the brainlets.
>tfw still cannot blend on CSP wthout becoming shit smear or pillow shading

>>4587814
that's a cool software

any recommendations if I'd want to pose something like this in a nice light setting

>>4591325
>that's a cool software
They are screenshots of a female head model on sketchfab pasted on CSP, specifically this model
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/female-head-realistic-base-mesh-3d-model-e26f1cc47bc248eabaab3a04c03f7240
The grid on CSP is applied using these steps
>>4587889

>>4591313
Yes, it's the basic theory of digital painting. It will get you up and running. It's in photoshop but the methods are universal. This other reply to me is from a retard though so don't listen to him.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library

sections 1) and the first few of 8) are really all digital painting is. everything else is applied knowledge of brush strokes, rendering, textures, and other techniques.

>>4591336
>This other reply to me is from a retard
Yes. I specifically stated so in my post. Ctrl Paint is a great resource if you're not a retard like me.

>>4591227
>>4590323

>>4591367
Oh shit

Anon here who posted the original deformed Holo, thanks a lot! Applying loomis to chinese cartoons wasn't super clear to me, so this really helps a lot

Are there many Manga artists who record their process? I find it really useful to watch.

>>4591479
loomis
akihito yoshitomi
yusuke murata
yoshikadu
pixiv sketch live

>>4591479
Manben

>>4585075
Where do I pirate this book? It's not in the archive.

>>4592091
nvm, found it elsewere

So do I go to /beg/ or stay here to begin my journey?

>>4592347
/beg/in

>>4592348
okay, guess I'll study loomis before going to anime.

see you guys in a decade.

we'll draw

>>4592355
Your stuff is cute!

>>4592347
No. Fuck beg. You won't get help there. Shit thread shouldn't even exist

>>4592363
I mean I just checked OP and read it and the second meme arrow states:
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.

So I clearly should learn construction, color theory, and "other fundamental concepts" before starting in my anime journey.

You guys don't have that because it will be just repeating the sticky anyways so...

>>4587736
oh wow, i remember you, this is a great improvement

>>4587736
Good job dude

>>4590229
I also started end of 2018 and you're as good or better than me. And I didn't have a 6 month break. So no, you're not the slowest.

why can't I draw anime

>>4592419
Not that guy. But could you post your work as well?

>>4592486
because no loomis

>>4592599
ok going back to loomos.

How do I draw more anime-like?
Should I?

Why'd the thread into /beg/ today

>>4593099
Don't bully. We all have to start somewhere. If you start gatekeeping threads for no good reason you are no better than graysketch tranny

>>4593099
I’m sorry for shitting up your thread.

>>4593099
Hopefully people realized that copying anime would send them backwards and these threads would eventually die.

>>4593116
What's wrong with copying if you're applying construction methods?

>>4593110
You best be sorry

>>4593118
If you're applying construction methods then by default you should be independent to draw in the style you want without having to copy.

>>4593121
I'm not that great at construction so I just try to overlay construction over the styles I like though.

>>4593130
>I apply constructions methods when I'm copying what's wrong with that?
>Oh by the way I know fuck all about constructions methods I just wing it by drawing over the original piece and "adding" construction lines uwu
Retard.

>>4593121
Just because you know you like a style doesn't mean you know exactly what goes into it or how to reproduce it. Constructing from reference is how you learn that.

>>4593147
Okay you got me, copying anime will definitely help you learn how to copy anime. May we see your latest piece where you didn't copy from anime, drew from imagination and used all the knowledge you gathered from referencing screenshots and your favorite coomer tier art?

Doing construction if you don't know japanese stylization will give you work similar to mikufag's. Copying will teach you the stylization which you can then apply with construction

>Most good artists recommend you get mileage first one way or another, literally just draw
>All good japanese artists openly state that they begun by copying their favorite artists
>If you don't know how to draw something, you literally have to copy from either a model or instructions until you internalize
>Drawing from imagination is basically either copying from your memory or imagination
>But you better not attempt copies because a shitposter on /asg/ said so
The only bad thing is copying exclusively without second guessing anything. If done properly with balanced studies learning to accurate copy something is literally half the battle and does so much for you.

>>4593236
Still waiting for someone to post their own piece that was made without copy and completely from imagination using what you learned from all that copying.

>>4593237

I'm gettin better at copying. Now if only I could copy a decent face...

>>4593249
>Pen
based

You people are fucking hopeless

>>4593254
Thanks anon

>>4592355
>>4592486
>>4592610
>>4593047
>>4593240
>>4593249
Go to /beg/.

>>4593262
>Go to /beg/.
no, i ain't /beg/ like you! i ain't /beg/! I AIN'T /BEEEEG/!!!

>>4593262
you wouldn't know /beg/ if it walked up and anally unbirthed you

No, no! I ain't /beg/ like you! I ain't /beg/! I ain't /beg/!! I AAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNN'T /BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGG/!!!!

how do I make my drawings less soulless

>>4593469
The key for true soul comes from drawing whatever your heart wishes, and it has 2 spectrums. On one side of the spectrum, kids (or terminal autists) just draw whatever the hell they want without caring about what the result might be, so the drawings are imparted with soul. On the other side you have artists that are versed in their craft well enough that the few conscious decisions they have to make is what they want to draw while all the rest is second nature. Everything inbetween is the valley of the soulless, where you find yourself unable to bring justice to your own vision and all your mental effort is spent trying to either overcome technical challenges or hiding mistakes which in turn removes the soul from the piece. The only thing left for us my friend is to traverse this dark valley, constantly seeking to refine our craft so we might be able to properly bring the soul of our inner worlds for the world to behold.

>>4593491
shit...

>>4593494
No such thing as easy answers. You play to win and you take your chances. The sooner you come to accept this the less time you will waste looking for non existent shortcuts.

>>4593236
I agree with everything you said and hate how few reasonable people there are in all my hobbies that get drowned out by bitter autists who can't do anything. Books I have literally tell students to start with tracing to get a feel for the parts they don't understand yet like planes of the face.

>>4593522
i play every day i was just wondering what i could do about it
not necessarily a shortcut

>anon1: NO YOU HAVE TO COPY
>anon2: NO YOU HAVE TO USE LOOMIS
How about you copy using loomis?

>>4593603
Good concept, but the face and proportions are a bit Tumblr. No offense

>>4593618
You and I brother. Might we both make it.

>>4593634
Hmm. I just trying to copy manga I like, and i want to find something between anime and real anatomy.

>>4593673
Anime uses real anatomy for the most part except for the head

>>4593685
Well, this is right, but I focus on works like Gyakusatsu Happiendo and Innocent Rouge.

>>4593706
Which are a lot of tracings over photos of real people. You have to know real anatomy before you can exaggerate it.

>>4593743
Ok thanks

Have you drawn today /asg/? Have you done your the very best you can?

>>4593343
based

>>4593318
>you wouldn't know /beg/ if it walked up and anally unbirthed you
/beg here. WTF is that supposed to even mean?

>>4593918
Don't think about it too hard just keep moving along

>>4593262
Beg told me to come back here. I'm starting to think everyone on /ic is a retarded nigger. Like, the kind that wouldn't even have been able to figure out how to pick cotton.

>>4593955
come here only when you get that anime style, go to beg

experts, this is anime style?

>>4593974
looks like something i'd see in a doujin. only thing that's bugging me is the eyes are too close together.

>>4593974
Yeah, looks like a popular style in hentai with milfs

>>4593974
When i draw face like this, people say - This is shit style, when i start draw difrrent, peoope tell me go on tumbler. Tell me please good anime artist who draw semi realistic anime faces. ( not a kuvshinov ) i cant taking anymore....

>>4593987
if ur not asian, ur not making anime but cartoons

NOOOOO
I DONT WANT TO DRAW WESTERN SHIT
I WANT TO DRAW ANIME

>>4593987
You probably can't separate yourself from your work and think it looks more anime than it does. There are a few people who've posted here that are the same way and don't take feedback.

>>4593961
Yeah well FUCK YOU you shit licking nigger. I hope the next golden shower your faggy ass receives is infused with acid and then your gay ass melts into a puddle of shit infused fleshy goo and a bunch of queer child molesting criminals get all up in that funk and have a good old time and you’re left crying in the corner while you have no ass and so you just constantly stream out shit and the sloppy remains of your ass are passed around in a jar and constantly violated by gay pedos.

>>4594048
That's some hardcore kink.

I like anime

>>4594054
I bet you can’t even name one.

>>4594056
avatar the last airbender

>>4594067
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

>>4594056
wakfu

>>4594078

>>4594056
neon genesis evengelion

>>4594056
night shift nurses

>>4593987
how about doing what you like?

>>4593987
ur asukafag right? going on a drawing style crisis?

>>4594120
No, i this dude >>4593603
>>4594112
I think yes, it’s better to do so.

What happened to the thread?

>>4594148
No draw
May

>>4594150
I drawed and I was told to leave so fuck all you fuckers! I hope your thread crashes and burns like WTC 7.

>>4594152
no one wants a /pol/shitter like you anyway

>>4594155
dont cum on your drawing anon, we get it, she cute

>>4594152
let me see what you draw. I will not tell you to leave this thread.

>>4594155
>hotgluing your own drawings

>>4594170
https://twitter.com/gagaimo_man/status/1215281225767649280

>>4594155
Shut up, you filthy weeb, before I drop an agent orange atomic bomb on your gook ass!
>>4594167
I’m this guy >>4593047

>>4594170
It’s nice to know an artist enjoys his own work.

>>4594170
>own drawings

>>4594184
Your style looks moar like western.
I recommend you to watch books - https://mega.nz/folder/UcNG2AiT#jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw/folder/sddDyarD , and read manga to understand this anime. Do not become as depressed as I am.
Listen only to good criticism.
criticism is very important. from russia with love.

>>4594191
>sending your drawings to your friend so he can hotglue them and post pictures
That's some faggy shit son.

>>4594184
pointy chin, glossy eyes, thick eyelashes will make your drawing more anime

>>4594217
>>4594207
Thank you, anons. Some of you disgusting weebs are alright.

Do I have potential?

>>4593603
This is nice. Shame the thread is being filled with random garbage atm.

>>4594393
2009

>>4594393
post current year

>>4594393
>triangle mouth
Gonna make it.

>>4594425
I’m more impressed by the square shoulder. That’s some hardcore symbol drawing. Bordering on abstract, actually.

>>4594393
yes you have 11 years to get good

>>4594413
>>4594423
>>4594425
>>4594439
>>4594443
draw this girl in your (anime) style or I'll assume you are just as bad.

>>4594450
pay me, not taking commission for free

>>4594452
Damn you must be really up your ass to ask money for a 5 min sketch for a shitpost.

>>4594452
>Implying you're any good worth enough for a commission
toppest of keks

>>4594458
yes im, got no reason to do it if i dont want to nd for a stranger nonetheless

>>4594465
Alright we got it, you just suck.

>>4594467
yes, ur ego happy now?

>>4594450
It's no secret that these fags don't know how to draw. No point in trying to beat a dead horse.

I wish I knew how to draw :(
t. fag

>>4594450
This is my work.
>>4593047
It may not be anime, but it’s better than your shit from 11 years ago. Now show us something recent.

Are there any good manga character design tutorials that sin't whyt manga or just the default western "shapes n diversity" approach.

>>4594487
Have you checked the mega?

>>4594487
use this, beware virus so use linux, virtual machine or a real time av scan, and download any jap chinese how to book

>>4594450

>>4594510
http://fineartvn.blogspot.com/

>>4594450

>>4594510
>beware virus so use linux
Fuck off, /g/.

>>4594450
here, now you need to pay me $120 for my work

drew my daughter today

>>4594535
ok boomer

>>4594535
Cute daughter. Why does she looks like she found your spy camera?

>>4594548
haha

>>4594535
Why are you doubleposting in /alt and here? and kek that middle finger looks like a penis.

>>4594450
Best I could do on my phone.

What are some books/resources from the mega you'd personally recommend? I've decided I'll complete one each week since I'm stuck at home anyways.

>>4594535
Oh hi sweet

>>4585202
>no underdrawing
>no construction
>immediately drawing contours
How do people do this?

>>4594571
2cool4school

>>4594571
Talent. Unironically.

>>4594571
drawing 3/4 face for the 97513874 time

>>4594533
gmi

>>4594567
>>4594535
kek

>>4594561
Is double posting frowned upon in /ic?

>>4594712
i dunno why they suddenly started giving people shit for this, people do this all the time. i guess i haven't been on ic for a while so that makes sense
>>4594561
now that you mention it it does look a bit phallic, but i'm happy with the overall gesture of the hand so im fine with leaving that alone

>>4594712
Not that anon, but nothing wrong with double posting as long as it fits the thread topic. Its good to get multiples sources of feedback. But those fingers are pretty wonky

i forgot to draw

>>4594048
based

>>4593491
actually true wtf

>remember this cool ass fucking speedpaint of a cyberpunk city with anime girls
>Want to watch it again
>remember it was in japanese
>scrolling trough millions of fucking videos just to watch it again.

>>4593987
Sadge

Does anyone have some From Software Artbooks for download?

I don't like how this turned out

>>4595431
better than anything in this thread t b h. lol

>>4595431
Me neither desu

>>4595452
did you check the neck and collar bone placement?

>>4594535
Pretty soulful. What brushes do you use to blend without losing hard edges?

>>4595378
https://exhentai.org/?f_search=artbook%24+dark_souls
https://mega.nz/folder/BXJkjSKI#ef2mMsm1mkj2nf3amonPEA/folder/JPh1XAqA

>>4594450
Holy shit, I'm so fucking shitty, mine looks like a fucking tranny

>>4594512
good shit

>>4595526
you were meant to improve the drawing anon

>>4595575
It's been years since I last draw something, I'll start practicing every day from now on

>>4595472
Also the eye proportion is fucked up

>>4595482
i actually just use the basic hard round pressure size brush for 90 percent of the colors and an airbrush for the softer edges.
usually for the background i switch to CSP and use this pencil brush called SU-Cream Pencil.

>>4594450
I gave this one a shot as well. I failed.

>>4595431
eyes aren't level or looking in the same direction

>>4595749
the head's not so bad but it looks like she has one single mutant breast and someone just hit her shoulder in with a sledgehammer

>>4595797
>not so bad

>>4595797
You are right, but the head is also pretty bad as well

>>4595810
>>4595826
Do better before criticizing...

>>4595814
soul

>>4595814
>cirno
>9

>>4595840
I'm criticizing myself. It is pretty bad. The other poster is right since I kinda just made up whatever I didn't truly know when I was running out of time. Will try again later with more time after work.

>>4595850
yes it's the 9th drawing of cirno i've drawn this is the 10th

>>4595869
9. idiot

>>4595875
no need to act hostile friendo we're all here to draw

>>4595912
but cirno is an idiot.

>>4595915
that's you could have said now will you excuse me i have to draw shibuya rin

>>4595923
hope you post it.

>>4594535
Excellent work. Good to see at least one person here make an effort in drawing.

>>4595959

>>4595989
based, now draw Honda beating her with a bat

>>4595991
no they cannot beat her with the bat only sachikong gets it

>>4595999

>>4596024
When are you going to defeat Iggy?

Is a drawing tablet essential for a manga illustrator in this day and age?

>>4596030
when he stops being a jerkoff

and when we figure out how to use the loomis

>>4596042
I mean, if you want to go digital, then yeah, you will learn faster and translate your trad skills way more with a tablet over drawing with a mouse.

>>4596052
But is there still a place for traditional people who don't like digital?

>>4596063
well you'd have to buy a good scanner or a really good iphone to take pics. But at that point a 60 bucks tablet is just way better.

I still don't really see the point to trad other than if you are just dabbing into the hobby to see if you like it.

>>4596069
What's a good not so expensive tablet? And what programs do manga artists generally use?

>>4596096
I'm sorry anon, I went from a wacom CTH480S2 4 years ago to straight to a 600 bucks huion couple of weeks ago. The one I had is no longer being made and don't know the current market for screenless budget tablets.
I recommend you go for something less than 100 bucks.

For programs mangakas use clipstudio IIRC.

>>4596096
for non screen tablets: XP-PEN Deco Pro or any of the other chinese brand tablets are your friend.

screen tablets: avoid the cheap chinese brands like XP-Pen, get a used/refurbished Wacom (cintiq 16). If you want a 22 inch screen then Huion is your safest choice.
programs: Clip Studio Paint EX...also pirate Photoshop CC 2019 so that you can edit your work with more control

when do we get to draw like deep sea prisoner

>>4596218
Not him but what's wrong with xp-pen screen tablets?
I got an xp pen Artist 12 a week ago and it's doing fine.
My only problem was that my pirated versions of sai and csp were fucking up.
I bought a legit version and they worked fine.

>>4596042
it makes the assistants work way faster/easier
5 people can work on the same page at the same time no problem

>took a look at my very first ever cute anime girl portrait
>look at my latest anime girl portrait
>they're not that different

>>4597904
pyw

>>4597931
my very first anime style drawing

>>4597931
>>4597948
the study I'm currently working on

>>4597956
looks better to me keep grinding

>>4597956
That's good reference you have there

If only drawing anime was real...

>>4598068