/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Fuck the threadly reference guy here's a bunch of references for you to practice

>>4572707

>>4572726
Kek. Reminds me of this.

How do i get better at figure drawing when there are clothes?
I try doing construction but it ends up terrible, I'm better off just drawing the contours.

/INT/CELS OUT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR COMPETENT DRAWINGS. GO BACK TO YOUR SHITHOLE GENERAL.

This is a better thread but stop making beg threads just because the other one hits the bump limit. There's literally 3 threads active right now.

What app should I use on iPad Pro for drawing and colour weeb degenerate shit?

I already have photoshop (iOS and windows) and Affinity Photo (iOS) for other stuff.

Should I get Procreate? Or is there something better suited?

>>4572796
Check out affinity for ipad

>someone asks for help with gesture drawing
>"you gotta feel the flow bro!"
>"FEEL the form!"
>"no dude, if you have to ask then you're just not FEEELING IT!"
>"dude.... all you have to do is smoke psilocybin communicate with the gestural spirits of the esoteric machine elf realm to draw gesture! it's not that hard"
>"ngmi"

>>4572807
Check out Steve Huston's figure drawing book/videos. Both should be in the artbook thread. He has a very clear gesture -> structure way of drawing.

>>4572807
Yes, that's correct.

>>4572807
i relate anon, I can construct and do contours alright, but i cant FEEL the form like people say. It just looks stiff or a bunch of noodles

Worked a bit on my crab today, what do you guys think?

workin on cartoon butthole, how shitty is it :O

Which book is best for head and facial anatomy (also learning how to draw a skull) and is NOT Loomis?

>>4572800
I have affinity photo

>>4572800
I have Affinity Photo, Designer is for graphic design not drawing?

I've been putting off completing this 'cause I'm ass at drawing backgrounds, I'm also thinking of just redoing it since there's some paint bleeding from another drawing I made and it looks kinda fucky

>>4572844
Ok. You can draw in affinity photo

>>4572860
same here dude, just gotta trust yourself and try something new

Who has the best YouTube videos on learning the essentials?

>>4572713

I dont feel like drawing anymore bros.. should I not draw anymore

>>4572874
draw the picture u posted

>>4572874
That's up to man, why don't you enjoy it anymore?

>>4572874
Yes give up. Its okay if you give up.

today I will draw tomorrow

>>4572874
You should get to a point where anyone else would quit and you're not going to stop here
no

What's a good way to find more art that I can look at?

>>4572874
Draw anime girls. It's what makes one happiest

>>4572726
Good work, measure the facial features against eachother

>>4572819
Looks dope
I would say try and shade with a single light source

>>4572860
Nice keep it up

>>4572881
copying is so boring

>>4572882
feels like im never getting anywhere, I dont think I have any real passion for this, I just think people who draw are cool

>>4572883
true. but a part of me keeps thinking about it everytime I see art online

>>4572912
shia i...

>>4572950
>copying is so boring
>feels like I'm never getting anywhere
Well I think I found the problem.
Doing studies of things you see is how you learn. How else are you going to learn what things look like otherwise? Are you just gonna reinvent everything out of your own head?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ctcyjdq52kuyoke/Effective_Art_Study_Guide.pdf/file

how do i think in 3d?
i always seem to struggle with it

>>4572950
It's gonna sound a little harsh but a reason for drawing like that isn't going to carry you very far. If you truly don't enjoy drawing and don't have a passion for it I think you could better spend your time doing something that actually makes you happy.

>>4572958
no joke, draw some boxes and try to rotate them in your head before putting the lines down

>>4572768
That looks great except for the faces.

>>4572938
Cheers man, any advice or resources on the single light source shading? It's what I was going for I must have failed somewhere, could you point out the errors on the current piece?

>>4572967

>>4572713

>>4572969
Thanks man, could you point out any obvious mistakes on the crab? I wanted a light source coming from behind, top left (I think it's clearer on the mechanical arm).

>>4572830
I guess it's creative. I would have never thought of a dildo bazooka.

>>4572956
there was a time when I was doing a bunch of figure drawings but im burnt out

>>4572962
i wanna draw good but drawing bad feels bad.. sigh

>>4572990
you have to draw bad, to draw good

never forget that

did these gestures, each in 60s. thoughts?

I guess you could give me feedback if you wanted to

>>4572807
>>"dude.... all you have to do is smoke psilocybin communicate with the gestural spirits of the esoteric machine elf realm to draw gesture! it's not that hard"
gtfo duncan

>>4573009
Looks like a great success.
The ones where she's standing, don't forget about her center of gravity. Especially the bottom left one, she's gonna tip over.

>>4572984
Erm I'm kind of not a person who this initiated conversation. But while no Arnold around I could say you need to tighten screws on this claw, my lines is more like thinking process rather than solution. And if light on top and behind you basically need to shade whole crab lol (what if your crab is a box? ). maybe some occlusion shadows.other than that.

>>4573035
Thanks man

>>4572726
was always a fan of the woll smoth meme

>>4573035
hm only now I released this axis is where claw attached to arm nor where blades come from. but you still need to sort out it more clear, because currently you have some Escher stuff going on

>>4572713

>>4572950
>file.png
Don’t give up cunnysouier, getting good in art takes years even with talent, you need to constantly draw everyday, do studies, make finish artwork and evaluate it or from other people. Your only job right now as a beginning artist is to show up and draw everyday.

Second portrait ever, kind of boring, I prefer drawing /an/ but a beg must learn everything

>>4573115
I really wonder how I got over my own case of symbol drawing.

>>4573115
Do you not use guidelines when constructing the head?

How do I emulate this coloration style in CSP?

I suspect there must be several research papers written about this perception phenomenon,
Maybe it way it is way it compressed when .stored in a brain memory or some post processing glitch. but literally everyone doing this and seems to be no reason to do it because they do not observe anything like that in reality.
eyes on top of head, mouth at very bottom and everything in between is a nose. And person did not see what is interesting how much it do not describe reality.

>>4573122
does it show that badly? She kinda looks like a camel lel

>>4573137
It does, the eyes and brow are too high uo and the mouth is too low. The chin is also too thin so it makes her look like a goat.
Also when shading don't be afraid of drawing in darker shadows, shading everything so light makes the drawing look muddled

>>4573137
The problem isn't your lack of guidelines, the problem is your lack of everything. It's not like using guidelines would instantly make you better. You have to know where to put the guidelines in the first place after all. Overlay your drawing on the reference and see how far off you were on even just getting the basic shapes and their placement right.

>>4573130
low value contrast high saturation contrast.

>>4572703
How the FUCK do I color skin?!

>>4572950
>true. but a part of me keeps thinking about it everytime I see art online

Draw only when you get this feeling? Don't sweat the rest of it or "learning" or Loomis or so..

Draw when you get the inspiration? I think that way you'll be happier about this. You aren't aiming for GMI right? Just don't sweat it.

As far as I see, you made a soulful drawing in just a few minutes. I'm beg too so I just speak from my own soul. But Your drawing depicts how you feel and I can sense it. That is something I appreciate and I think most art consumers also do.

>>4573151
google any tutorial for rady solution.
but more generally it is sss, hue and saturation variation/ reflectivity aspect is nice too

>>4572719

>>4573115
was there a ref? draw from life more, and take note where features generally are in relation to each other. youll likely find a pattern.
apologies for shitty mouse drawing.

I'm feeling the gains gesture is granting me. Is gesture truly the endgame?

>>4572950
>copying is so boring
try adding colour to spice it up.

To any one who feels like they're not understanding what people mean by feeling "flow" (because admittedly it does sound esoteric), try to just spend 30 min doing 1 minute gesture drawings on as many sheets as you need. You don't have to make them detailed. What you should focus on is just the line of action. You can sometimes think of this as the spine, but this isn't always the case. You might've heard this before, but this is extremely important to help your drawings feel less stiff. During the gesture stage you don't have to really make the anatomy accurate, just make sure the proportions feel right. You could do this as a warm up. This isn't the only way to practice, but it can help you figure out what kinds of poses you have trouble with and why. Learning the anatomy goes hand in hand with this too, but this is a good place to start if you have no idea how to do anatomy.

Welp, I tried again, I'm disgusted by the mouth. Time to grind faces. I hate that Proko guy, I find him insufferable, what would you guys recommend? I know there's the sticky, but there are various books for faces.

>>4573144
thanks man. I tried again adding some lines and trying to measure how many eyes the nose and the forehead were.
>>4573146
Pls no bully
>>4573216
Yes, on the draw this thread. Thanks man, that pic is helpful, I suppose I just need to learn some anatomy of the face. And of everything to be honest.

>>4573246
Post your reference. Also where's the back of her head?

>>4573270
haha fuck if I know about the back of the head anon, I guess shes as much of a brainlet as I am. I love this type of bullying guys, people on instagram were too positive and I knew it couldnt be good. Thanks really

>>4573246
>I know there's the sticky, but there are various books for faces.
Since you're a beginning why not read book one on the list?

>>4573276
>bullying
I eouldnt say that's what I'm doing but OK. Basically you're going to draw this face two more times. Take an entire hour to do the next one. Start by measuring everything before you draw it. Pay attention to the boring spaces (forehead, back of head, distance from ear to the rest of whatever. Basically don't an eye, ear, nose, etc, draw what's actually there.

Then after you've spent a literal hour drawing this one you're gonna draw a 4th one in 10 minutes keeping in mind everything from the 1 hour version. See you soon! And god bless

>>4573246
There we go, that's a lot better. No more goat-woman.
The shading looks a lot nicer too, though the hair is still kind of iffy

>>4573293
I was just joking man, I truly appreciate the help. I'll work on this beautiful woman for an hour!
>>4573294
Thanks man, maybe I should draw furries after all

>>4572807
Artists are good at drawing. They're very rarely good at much else. Such as explaining. When you draw 10,000 models in 10,000 poses, you train your brain like a neural network AI. When artists talk about feeling the form, it just means their brain at a very low level is able to process what goes where for whatever it is they are drawing.

>>4573306
I'm actually serious when I say an hour. Seriously that's the way

>>4573244
Good post. Thanks man.

>>4573098
>>4573008
thanks guys, i think ill just take a break for a bit.
>>4573158
i just want to be able to draw cool things. Thats my GMI

>>4573308
Yes, that wasnt me lmao, some anon downloaded the pic and warped it to make it more close the OGPic

>>4573246
Sorry, I wasn't trying to bulli you. I know how hard it is, I'm a /beg/ too. I just think it's more beneficial to you and actually more comforting overall to understand just how far your drawing was from the ref, and that the way to fix your drawings is to slowly improve your skills and decrease that gap. That way you won't fall into a trap like "oh, someone on /ic/ told me that if I just used construction or if I just thought in 3D then I would do better, I'm trying to do that so why aren't I doing better". It's a long process with many many steps, you can't just fix "that one thing" you were missing and suddenly it's great.

It's gotten so far in the thread without the arnold post, we need our boy.

>>4573322
Not the Anon you're replying to but
> "oh, someone on /ic/ told me that if I just used construction or if I just thought in 3D then I would do better, I'm trying to do that so why aren't I doing better". It's a long process with many many steps, you can't just fix "that one thing" you were missing and suddenly it's great.

Very true for me as /beg/, I have undeveloped skills in 100 different areas. I know when I draw I do a million things wrong. I pick one thing I want to focus on per sketch. But the whole time I know i'm fucking up everything else. And when I post I get told by /int/s "lmao just do construction". Th-thanks.

>>4572874
here i tried, kill me please. this was my 1st digital

>>4573364
obviously have a lot to learn but feel pretty accomplished from that, would that be considered a study or did i fuck everything up

does anyone here use ipad and know anything about when the device lags, or buffers while painting. pre annoying

>>4573405
>he fell for the ipad meme
oh nonono

Torso studies, i'm trying to draw them in different angles to get used thinking in 3d.

I think I'm wasting my time. I have all day to draw but I feel like I accomplish nothing. Dont get me wrong, I draw for hours on end but I dont know what to study, what to practice or what to do really.
I just do random things like copy hands, do figure drawings, do a couple of regular drawings, copy some artist.
Like I have no plan or anything.
What should I be doing? I have literally all day to draw but I dont know what to spend my time on.

What would be the best use of my time?

>>4573467
goaaaaaaaaaaaaals!!!!!!!

>>4573467
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ctcyjdq52kuyoke/Effective_Art_Study_Guide.pdf/file

>>4573487
Didnt know this was a thing. Thank you.

>>4573467
beginners who are overly fixated on "how to best use their time" don't make it very far into a time-investment/skill-based hobby. at the beginner stage you should be mostly preoccupied with having fun. you're in this for the long haul. despite the memes to that /ic/ is full of bad artists, /ic/'s demographic skews to the intermediate/advanced levels. at that level, studies are necessary to improve but as a beginner you should focus on making drawing a fun and enjoyable recreational activity.

yes i am telling you "just draw"

>>4573506
I've been "just drawing" for 2 years with little to show for it. I'm still a beginner after so long.

>>4573520
but did you have fun/enjoy it?

>>4573533
I guess, but I'd have more fun if I was a decent artist.

>>4573487
>trace a drawing then copy the original using construction
I never thought of this before. I feel like this will help a lot.

are ya winning son?

Another cube.

Crab boy here, keeping you posted on the progress. I feel it's coming along quite nicely, I might be done with the sketching here and start coloring it soon.

Alright so I figured out the age old question of how to get motivated to draw, or at least for myself (it's just dopamine detox), but now I'm stuck with the question of WHAT to draw. I've got the motivation down, but where do I find the inspiration?

>>4573293
>>4573322
Stop bullying /beg/s please they are here to learn not to get shat on

>>4573562
im jelly good job fren

>>4573520
Assuming you have spent 2 years of consistently "just drawing" with even the most basic intention to improve, you should be at a point where you "know what you don't know" and you can read academic material and follow along the lessons outlined for you. You should have a rough understanding of what you are missing and, knowing how to navigate /ic/ and its archives, you should roughly know where you can start looking for resources to help yourself develop in those areas. You also should by now have cultivated a series of artists you admire and would like to replicate their style. These two should compound, you should have goals and you should know what the path to those goals should look like.

I say this as a beg symbol drawing loser so, apologies to Arnie

>>4573506
biggest crab advice possible

>>4573593
looking slick bro, for real.

I'm pretty sure this is fucked in 9209 different ways, but somehow can't figure it out on my own

Any advice?

here's the ref

>>4573653
Looks like she's looking through the scope with her eye closed

>>4573644
>don't burn yourself with gratuitous art studies as a beginner, take things slow and learn to enjoy drawing
>crab advice
ok

>>4573653
you need to study proportions argentinefag.

>>4573664
>it's either this extreme or that extreme
>what is moderation
Why do you love seeing people nmi?

>>4573651
Well that does make me feel pretty warm inside, thanks man.

>>4573623
Thanks. I spent a lot of time on it (mainly remeasuring and redrawing).

My first digital painting Is complete, I know very little about color theory but I want to improve. Any critiques with this piece? What should I study starting from here? What would you improve?

>>4573366
Well at least your rendering is better than mine.

>>4573668
I WILL THANK YOU FATHER

>>4573715
Push your values more, don't be afraid.

>>4573710
pyw in order to have a proper rendering battle

>>4573707
Do the following
1. Milk should be leaking out more than spurting unless they're being squeezed, pay attention that the milk conforms to the breast properly
2. Same problem a lot of people here have: lack of parietal bone
3. Add highlights

That's what you can improve without a whole redraw. For your next version do a Loomis head so that the eyes don't look so fucked. Seriously eyes and the sexual focal point are the only two things that matter in any ero art. Look at all the hacks that make it

>>4573715
Move the left (right) eye down so its in line. Position the hair things properly
Don't do tumble red nose

>>4573732
Cute!

Is it true if I just keep gesture drawing and copying figures for years that one day I’ll be able to draw a pose from imagination and it won’t look like shit? Am I falling for the copying meme?

>>4573722
Here's something I did around december of last year (I fell for the just draw meme during that time), I don't have any recent ones because after that my tablet died and I went over 3 months without touching a tablet.

>>4573756
learn to construct and you'll be able to draw a pose soon instead of years from now.

>>4573772
>learn to construct
Please don’t say loomis. There’s gotta be another way to learn constructing

>>4573756
read hampton

>>4573715
>>4573723

I changed

>>4573821
Looking much better, can't believe you improved so fast

>>4573776
unironically proko

>>4572873
>>4572974
Digging it my dudes

>>4573707
I tried to increase the quality and the contrast, and It somehow looks better but not really closer to the painting style of >>4573130
What default brushes in CSP are the ideal to get something closer to that style? Is something like that even possible in Digital?

How much of keys to drawing should I complete? Is it all beneficial or should I move on after the first chapter

>>4573772
pyw

>>4573756
Have you considered taking some poses and memorizing how to draw them? And then you'd be able to draw variations on them easier from imagination?

>>4573890
Very nice. Got any tips for reference drawing?

>>4573756
drawing from imagination is glorified symbol drawing from your visual répertoire

Started studying the features of the face and I still suck at it just as in every other aspect of drawing, but who knows... maybe we are gonna make it someday

>>4574139
don't draw the line between the teeth and more importantly since your facial features are all over the place start by using grids. Draw a circle on a paper and start drawing her face using this, each time you draw a line check the reference.

>>4574070
his words, not mine https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI8GDFj5BQCQrSHITFebzkA/videos

>>4574118
What is wrong with symbol drawing if you have the ability to make those symbols appealing? Everyone keeps using the term as if it automatically makes them an expert.

>>4574139
and if the circle is too complicated use this grid

>>4574173
If you know how to properly use symbols on your drawings and keep it appealing then good. But /beg/ can't use them properly nor they know what exactly the parts of the symbol symbolizes in the human body. You can legit draw a :) in the face and make it good/cute/sell-able or fail miserably because you don't know perspective, form of the face so you don't know where to put those symbols making it a .ˑ) instead. Plus, it's lazy and will hurt you in the future by limiting what you can do with the symbols you have.

I really like krita

tfw regressing

>>4574180
>he uses the grid

>>4574198
nigga I don't I'm just making it easier for the other anon whose eyes clearly fail at noticing proportions. The grid is just to train your eye.

>>4574196
you cant regress from zero anon

>>4574216
-1

tfw can't stop jerking off to proko models

>>4574196
you're the fucker making those comics aren't you

>>4574219
find obese models to fix it

i tried to do the #100 challenge

>>4574221
>>4574219
ask your mom for poses

>>4574224
#48 is missing the back of the head, or not, never know these days.

>>4574228
yeah i think you're right

>>4574224
>instagram meme faces
I don't say this often, but you are never GMI.

>>4574236
it's just practice at the end of the day,I think I improved a lot from the 1st ones

>>4574245
You're GMI but /ic/ will never knowledge instagram/tumblr artists as legit, with a good reason.

>>4574259
Thanks anon! I thought it was a pintorest challenge I don't know I just saw a video on it on youtube and thought it would be a good idea to stick to someone's premade library because if I look for someone to draw I usually end up wasting a lot of time and choose the same type of chick over and over.

>>4574151
pyw

>>4574198
>he doesn't use grid
Your work must be literal shit

>>4574219
Haha memes so fun

>>4574280
I'm the one posting the numbered faces, if it's a frontal view I usually start with a circle.I don't draw it on the reference itself tho.

>>4572712
Is my construction correct?

>>4574303
where is footi

>>4574306
Ain't gonna lie, can't really tell what the foot is in that photo.

Is there actually anything wrong with doing drawabox stuff digitally?

>>4574216
why are you so crabby anon

>>4574313
don't waste your time with fartabox.

>>4574318
Is it not actually valuable? What is a better option instead?

>>4574311
>>4574303
look up image of birbs and how their footi tends to stick out, then apply the knowledge to complete the missing information from the reference.
as for the construction, try to find the center line of the face and the body, vertical ones.

>>4574303
>>4574324
Thanks anon, here's an update, I'll add the foot soon.

>>4574320
Pick any of the educational books recommended in the sticky and stick with it.

As for improving line quality: https://youtu.be/eaif0PpNMas
Practice this daily or atleast a few times a week.

>>4574320
loomis, what type of question is that on /ic/?

>>4574320
Don't listen to this retard, do drawabox but do it traditionally as the author suggests

>>4574303
>>4574328

Only time I've ever "doodled" and it came out comprehensible, so I'll take it.

More WIP, eyes are a bit better, something bugs me still, kinda think it's the eye farther away being a bit off angle or something.

Gonna take a 30 minute break and if anyone can tell me what's up that'd be nice. After that it's time to move on to 2B-4B and that shit can't be fixed anymore.

Literally started yesterday and I'm the most /beg/ of fucking /beg/s first time I've tried drawing. Tried to draw picassos Stravinsky upside down. This is what I ended up with.

>>4574377
We all have to start somewhere.

>>4574373
>comprehensible

>>4574374
Reference

Important to note, I'm going for likeness over exactness, with more a focus on proportions, construction and lighting. If it looks ok on paper, then that's fine with me.

>>4574377
Yeah man you got to start somewhere. Just don't get burned out and try and enjoy it, draw something you like next.

very heavily referenced

>>4574391
pls make her face more animuh

>>4574409
He won't. He never will.

Help me /ic/... I don't know what a measuring point is and how I would be able to use it. I don't think it's covered in "Perspective made easy" either... Does anyone know what the heck it is?

Loomis uses it at the end of his "fun with a pencil" book...

I want to learn...

>>4574409
I don't wanna draw anime

>>4573757
Unironically cute and soulpilled

>>4574391
I like your faces. Gives me those anime/realistic vibes that I like.

What's your reference?

Tips? I want to be popular coomer artist when i grow up.

>>4574429
This is pretty good, keep on drawing lad. Try looking into shadows and lighting.

>>4574427
thanks and also I wanna say taht I am constantly looking for new things and changing and trying none of my style is final or I don't think that all critiques are wrong I often regret posting cause I can see that something is wrong or ugly

well anyway one thing I did here was change my brush settings so that I can do more subtle strokes like I would with a real pencil

>>4574374
You got it pretty good. If there are any needed adjustments they are very minor.
Her left eye might be too almond shaped making look a bit off. Tried to give it a better shape but I think the difference is minor.

>>4574415
if you mean page 117 it's this

>>4574391
Your anatomy is much better now that you're using a ref.

>>4574438
I'm referring to page 98. The very first page he talks about perspective.

"All measuring points of perpendicular planes will fall in a perpendicular line through VP of those planes."

I don't understand.

>>4574435
you really improved the face from the ref, kudos

>>4573776
Yes Loomis. This is the way,.

>>4572703
Tried to draw a normal pencil perspective test and some Blacksad too.
Thoughts? Critique?

>>4574450
REEEEE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO READ 7 DIFFERENT BOOKS TO BE ABLE TO DRAW

>>4574434
Thank you anon. I will look for shadow and lighting for sure.

>>4574464
just get marshalls video course on perspective

please....

>>4574500
realatable

>>4574500
>tfw passed multivariable calclus with an A but still don't understand two point perspective

>>4574506
>he doesnt draw in chad 5 point perspective

>>4574450
measure point isn't required, but is nice to get some things accurate
here are some easy to understand sample in practice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIyEhwC0i8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErX-ulekeYw

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOaIDS7sEl8

these will be enough to get you through the book

I need fucking help anons.

I've put a lot of effort while in quarantine on learninig anatomy and properly constructing proportions. I'm really satisfied with everything I've learned except faces.

I've tried loomis, I've tried proko, and I'm still struggling.

Pic related were drawings from photos on sketchdaily. Any critique will be helpful, as I am well past the point of frustration.

>>4574527
those first two videos don't explain anything though. I don't actually understand what those are.... I read about the horizon line and eye level and vanishing points, and I know what those are but I don't understand the purpose of a measuring point or why I would need or want one and how I would go about making it....

I have a feeling it's a ways away from me learning it though so I'll just read up on Scott robertson's book in the meme time...

>>4574530
sorry to tell you but its going to take years of constant practice.

>>4574530
draw 3/4 angled faces, frontal isn't going to look good for realistic faces if you don't know how to shade or omit details.

>>4574548
i'm asking for critique, not for apologies. Kick my ass if you have to I just want to get better at this.

>>4574303
>>4574328
>>4574372
>Is my construction correct?
For the most part yes, although I would've used a whole cylinder shape for the body.
I wouldn't worry so much about the talon like that one retard who was nitpicking about it since the body covers it for the most part.
I would have love to see your work stay truth to the original because that big straw kind of gives me CWC vibes. Good effort overall Anon, you should look forward to work on you circular shapes

>>4574530
You did the best on the left guy in the middle row but everything else looks almost symbol drawn
Try hampton but idk if it will help you if the others didnt.

>>4572726

>>4574560
i think the reason why the mid left guy looks better than the rest is because his face was so angular it was basically broken up into planes already.

I'll try hampton, thank you for the suggestion.

>>4574563
every time I draw anime I think about this image

>>4573057
I'm curious to know what kind of construction did you used for this if any. Baseball-Chan certainly looks thiccer and the upper body seems highly inconsistent compared to the lower. Good Effort though, If you struggle drawing hands consider drawing them as a single unit and then try to add the details for every finger.

>>4574566
It's a good motivation in order to avoid symbol drawing

>>4574590
I wish it was enough motivation to keep me from symbol drawing... Instead it keeps me from 100% symbol drawing, so I only 90% symbol draw

>>4574429
study boob anatomy you dWeeb

>>4574593
You can avoid symbol drawing 100% but if your skill doesn't match the ability you need in order to draw what you're drawing it still going to look off. Take that 90% as a positive and keep improving each time you draw

When drawing a head that's fairly realistic (not hyper) do you mash numerous photo references of different people together? I know a real woman I like to draw but there's not a lot of pictures of her online. Should I draw from imagination to fill in the blanks to draw her from different angles and with different expressions? (for instance if there's not a good image of her frowning from a certain angle, just draw what I imagine it would look like?) Or use refs of different people as a basis/guideline and alter them to look more like her?

>>4573821
When will you finish something asukafag? All you do is unfinished shit and floating loomis heads.

>>4574500
what's the deal with this infantalizing shit that zoomers always do?All this shit with headpats and frens and pretending to be a child. Is this the most fucked generation to ever exist?

>>4574611
Post pics because it's hard for me to imagine multiple portraits with too many missing features.

Trying werewolf there wolf not swear wolf.

>>4574527
Great clips, bad music

>>4574623
that's what happens when all the middle class kids with a tablet grow up in a bubble called political correctness

here is reference from the old thread >>4571073

i got lazy with ears and neck

>>4574640
where are his big furry orbs and fat sheath

>>4574429
grind more feet

>>4574490
wtff i like this style a lot i'm stealing it

typhatena be like

>>4574660
You got lazy with all the features bud, I'm sad to say.
You need to study head proportions and anatomy.

>>4574743

>>4574774
Very cute anon

>>4574776
you address wrong post author is a bit higher

>>4574762
Very cute anon

So what's so passive aggressive?

decided i need to go back to the basics and do value landscapes without painting

Should my stablization be sub-5 and just do as many flowing lines as possible

>>4572768
By knowing how the form affects the drapers and how the form folds.
By knowing form and "feeling" it, you have to do alot of gesture drawing. Perspective will help you too, to understand depth.

The most important part is to raw a lot of gestures (nakes ones) so you can see how the body-parts interact together.
The most crucial parts which will show folds are body-parts which can move and rotate, e.g. like the leg.

There are tutorial too and book for folds.
If you want them to draw believable you have to keep always the movement in mind and if the figure is running , so to have the natural counterpart in your drawing too, at this point it would be the Gegenwind.

Hope this helps.

>/int/ artist posts in /beg/
>"NICE!" "blog?" "love your shit dude. so good." "excellent work" "would you like a redline and a backrub sir?"

I'm new to digital art.
Like completely new.
What software should i use?

>>4574861
photoshop

>>4574828
NICE! Do you have a blog?

love your shit dude. so good

>>4574664
excellent work

>>4574660
would you like a redline and a backrub sir?

>>4574861
procreate on IPAD

>>4574861
For me it's Illustrator

>>4574855
why are ppl making fun of this post

>>4574865
>>4574883
>>4574889
pic related

>>4574861
Krita

>>4574774
how to learn cute anime girls

ug uf

>>4574891
low tier /int/s salty because its true and they post here to farm you's

Watching an online course and the homework is 2 hours worth of "cafe drawing"

the fuck is cafe drawing? I'm ESL. Help. Does it mean like quick sketches or what?

>>4572703
took some advice from last thread. trying to get into comicbooks industry so hope i'm learning properly

>>4572707

babbys first towergril

tried a portrait of a dude, ended up making him a bit derpy. oh well.

>>4572713
Sausage dog version of a human. Lmao

>>4574000
Glad to see you ignored everything I wrote. Why even ask for help lmao

how do i not get carpal tunnel, my elbow has to be higher than my desk???

>>4574907
Is this your render anon?

>>4574877
checked and thanks but sadly i dont

>>4573018
I like it but the head feels too big

when do we get to draw fun stuff

instead of anime this is what i'm doodling. fuck

>>4574461
Anybody?

>>4574196
It looks much better now that you are using this construction method, the proportions are better too. Try getting inspiration from artists you like.

>>4574937
Pretty much, yeah. Like going to a cafe and just sketching the people you see

How the FUCK do you shade with a pencil? This has always been the most intimidating thing for me about drawing because I can't even begin to comrehend how to do this. When I try it myself I've no idea what I'm doing and it looks nothing like it's supposed to.

>>4575162
smush it with a piece of paper or your thumb.

>>4575117
You got booboo on your head

Draw

>>4574196
kek its g(r)ay sketch kun

>>4575162
By applying different pressure points to the pencil depending the darker/lighter of the value

Haha, Soft & Wet

>>4575187
That's not helpful in the slightest, you might as well say "just drag a pencil across the paper" when someone asks how to learn to draw.

>>4575181
:(

>>4575185
Does everyone this board know Japanese?
I don't understand how often I see katakana images here

>>4575201
You're being ironic and a piece of shit over a legit advice. Don't be afraid of really push the pencil hard on the darkest value then you'll note the difference

>>4575201
>gets advice
>"waaaaah not helpful enough waaaah"
Why don't you go to facebook draw groups, theyre more your speed

Animal crossing villager sketch. How can I improve?

>>4575220
No, your advice is just worthless trash, when I do that it just looks like patches of light and dark grey without smooth transition between them

>>4575224
>gives "just draw"-tier advice
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO why don't they suck my dick like on reddit??

>>4575219
Because only Japan know how to good anime
So pictures with Japanese characters is more legit

Newest Thread

>>4575222 >>4575222 >>4575222

>>4575241
The only thing that's trash around here is your ability to shade you can't even take a simple advice on how to improve your shading.
If you can't understand such a simple concept then why ask in the first place

>>4575256
That's not even an advice, it's the most obvious fucking conclusion everyone naturally comes to when they try it out for the first time, but knowing that isn't gonna help you draw pic related

>>4575262
That's cross hatching for the most part and it's not smooth at all but the art it's pretty clean. You just have no clue what you're talking about kid

>>4575272
I was talking about shading in general, and yes it's looks smooth and realistic compared to what I can do. Again, your "advice" doesn't explain how it is done.

>>4574117
Hmm tips for reference drawing, that's pretty difficult in general without giving advice about a specific example, but I'll give it a try.

A lot of people approach drawing from reference like approaching a puzzle, starting with one area and going into full detail and then moving on to the next and so on and so forth.
It's a problem because in the end individual areas might look right, but as a whole they don't really fit together.
So try to consider the whole first, as in proportion relationship gesture and only go into detail once you're somewhat happy with that.
Of course you can run into the opposite problem too, that the drawing as a whole looks good but individual areas arn't exactly right, but it's a better mistake to make than the other way around.

Your approach should also be appropriate to the reference, the batting lady was very gestural and dynamic so it's a good idea to focus on that first. Whereas if you draw a car or a building or something your first focus should be perspective.
I know that sounds completely obvious but I see a lot of people who draw from reference purely rely on their observation without considering their approach first.

The most important thing is probably constantly measuring angles + distances.
I don't mean anally measuring to the last millimeter either, but rather getting things in the right ballpark.
Like if you imagine a vertical from the head down it roughly aligns with the foot that goes backwards.
Or if you imagine a vertical down from the hands they roughly align with the foot that comes forward.
Or getting the angle for the bat from handle to tip right.
Or imagining a diagonal from the head to the tip of the bat to judge if it's in the right place or not.
If you do that constantly it will eventually become second nature and your gut-feeling will actually become reliable

Great now I wrote too much and the Thread is about to die, so probably nobody will even read it.

I just started 3 weeks ago, where can I go from here? I dont know what im doing

>>4574919
Use less lines please. Clean up before you start painting.

>>4574965
Proportions are better. I suggest you use a ruler to measure if you get everything correctly. Might seem like a hassle and "creativity killer" bit it is necessary until you get a real good control of proportions.

>>4574988
Very flat values. Don't smudge all the shadows like that, almost every portrait has sharp shadows, look out for them.
>>4575009
Proportions are incorrect, failed I'm foreshortening. Keep up the practice though.
>>4574461
As I have suggested before you need to study normal muscle before moving on exaggerated muscles. Those are not how big muscles look like, you drawing them all in "c" symbols and it makes the figure look like a balloon.
>>4575234
Chicken scratching , use less and more confident lines.
Study anatomy of shoulders, neck, traps, and arms.
>>4575351
Learn where the features of the face are placed. Stop chicken scratching.
Resize your images.

>>4575351
>>4575590

what do you mean features of the face? like the placement of the eyes, nose, etc?

>>4575606
Yes.

Is loomis really the best place to start?

>>4575608
what else was wrong with it? other than the filesize and the misplaced features

Posting this here because I got no feedback in the /draw/ thread.

I've been trying to colour my crab. It's my first digital colour painting so I'm looking for advice, technique, whatever critique you feel like imparting.

Especially interested in how I could make the metallic part look metal.

>>4575623
Forgot pic

>>4575339
Thank you, anon.

>>4574894
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm very happy with Krita, more than Sai.

>>4572726
insteresting looking actually.

>>4574273
noice

Done, here's about a month.