/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

VERY IMPORTANT REMINDER: implying that you're over 18 of age to be on 4chan, if you're /beg/ as of right now you will NEVER make it

>USEFUL THREADS
Thread for reference photos:
>>4491852

Artbook thread:
>>4532724

Video Course thread:
>>4480117

Too good for a /beg/ and not good enough to be an /adv/ check out the intermediate thread:
>>4551064

Anime Thread:
>>4551180

Drawing/reference Studying General:
>>4547223

Non-digital thread:
>>4551406

i feel scared to post if arnie doesnt post the pasta....oh no no no

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this is my reference

>>4556411
And this is my drawing/study.

>>4556386
Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>if you are /beg/
Don't ever give advice.
You can relate and share your hardships with other /beg/s, but never give them advice.
If you MUST give advice, start the reply off with "I'm beg, but what worked for me is..."

>Before you post your work
1. Every person giving advice here expects for you to have at least read some of the sticky, and that you already know what you should be doing to improve.
In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are perfectly viable advice.
We expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
Sometimes literally the only good advice to give is to practice more and improve you technique.

2. DO NOT post your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. If you do post them then make sure to ask for SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", expect to get meme replies such as "Loomis".

Follow these simple rules and the generals will become much more productive for both the /beg/s and the people giving advice

>>4556414
legs and chest are out of proportion

>>4556414
learn construction first.

Threadly ref

>>4556419
I applied construction

How would I even go about writing this for my art history class?

>>4556422
no, you didn't that's why it looks flat.

You need to practice those stupid maniquins drawings.

>>4556423
google how to write an essay.

>>4556425
yes I applied construction, but I guess I do need more practice

>>4556428
try to practice foreshortening.

>>4556408
Based Bulgarian poster I've rarely seen animals mixed with the Loomis great concept

Resize your fucking drawings.

Thread is off to a fantastic start

I-I'm going to make it!

trying to stop symbol drawing

>>4556480
those are some dogshit refs

>>4556483
yea

Which body is the correct one, /ic/? I can't proceed without deciding.
2 is actually the first I drew, but I felt like the head was too big... though now it doesn't look that bad.

Just starting my journey, going through Key To Drawing on my way through the sticky. I've been getting distracted as hell though. As fun as it is, I'm outta motivation alot of the time or just wanna try drawing bodies (which I totally can't yet). Think I should just keep truckin' through Keys without even looking at other books, or should I get some anatomy in tandem with it?

>>4556423
>If you were a work of art- what type of art would you be?
A loli doujin.

>>4556489
left looks best but the face if fucked up and terrible in both

Practising my construction and anatomy.

>>4556494
Can't have that, her pretty face is supposed to be the focus. I'll work on it thanks

>>4556483
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
>>4556480
Keep going Anon if I had to pick one the first is the one that resembles the original the most

Thoughts? This came out better than I expected and I'm satisfied with the result for the most part, but I'm kinda scared to color it as I feel I will fuck it up.

>>4556501
based Kaneda it looks really good
maybe scan it so you can color it just incase you fuck it up
now draw a Tetsuo

>>4556492
You're drawing the lines you think are there rather than what's actually there. Look at your right (image left) at how the top eyelid overlaps the bottom on the far left. Your drawing shows it as just a completed oval. Try and feel the twisting and turning of various planes of your face, rather than drawing the contours and outlines of shapes.

So I did the picasso exercise, starting from absolute zero. How did I do?

>>4556508
Damn, I see what you mean. Then yeah, gonna stick with this book until I'm done with it.
Thanks for the critique, trying to get that volume and roundness down it tricky as hell to figure out so I'll keep at the eyes for a bit.

>>4556513
I'm /beg/ too, but I think this isn't supposed to be critiqued. It's an exercise to start getting rid of your symbol drawing. As long as it's recognizable, it should be good. Just keep going through the books. By the time you get any criticism fon this, other people have already moved on and improved much more.

First time drawing in years and first time using a drawing tablet wacom thing. What should i work on to improve? any specific exercises or things to practice would be appreciated.

>Trying to draw an appropiate head for a body
I feel like Dr. Frankenstein

>>4556513
>>4556570
I'm /beg/ but what worked for me was realizing that this was supposed to be an exercise on how to stop symbol drawing by forcing the rightside of your brain to draw this by doing it upside down.
As the actual critique goes well the result speaks by itself for you two guys and I don't mean it as an insult, there's still ways to go on how to stop symbol drawing. I personally like this image >>4556390 on how to consciously stop symbol drawing things.

>>4556489
My crit, take it or leave it. I try to stay faithful to the original.
1. Face too sharp, woman are soft creature.
2. People like curvy, fertile women.
Question: Am I chicken scratching?

>>4556580
Oh shit you've redrawn it, my bad.
Just forget this >>4556590 then.

gonna do upside down refs for like......a month

>>4556592
>>4556590
Holy, that's much more nicer anon, I was gonna complain that my redraw looks too aggressive and I didn't like ditching the original angle.
I'm taking that advice on softness
This is how it

what i use? only have gimp
no can make good brushes or dynamics
got too high last ngiht and did this relly quick

>>4556594
There's no need for you to act like a smartass over the upside down exercise sir, turn the reference upside down if you fail to recognize shapes on it and if you can't make a conscious effort of stopping yourself from symbol drawing

>>4556606
im not smartassing i legitimately just think i should grind downies for a long ass time to practice getting rid of symbols and drawing stuff to scale

I wonder if I inspired other anons to draw eyes.

Started from 0 five days ago. I'm following Keys to Drawing. On what can I improve? Am I symbol drawing somwhere?

Started from 0 five days ago. I'm following keys to drawing. How can I improve? Am I symbol drawing somewhere?

>>4556662
Ref

>>4556662
>>4556614
Every drawing involves symbols. Better artists just draw better symbols. Drawing symbols is obviously fine if the symbols look good. Stop being NGMIs obsessed with "not symbol drawing" and focus on making better looking drawings.

>>4556686
Okay. Does it look good tho? Where did I fuck up? I know a few places where it's shit, but every book talks about the importance of receiving criticism. What do you think?

>>4556689
Pretty good for 5 days. Nose is mostly good and you're showing 3 dimensionality with the barrel of the mouth. Eyes are well-placed but sloppily drawn. Get better paper.

>>4556686
Start your sentence by saying "I'm /beg/ but what I think is..."
You clearly have issues differentiating symbols from shapes

>>4556662
Not bad for 5 days. Don't focus so much on "gains" this early one - you're literally first week of Drawing 101. Relax. Give it a couple months, and don't start building artificial anxiety from the start - art is a "long haul' thing.
It's not bad as a beginning attempt. Keep at it. You can't accomplish much in 5 days. Keep practicing at seeing and learning to draw contour, learn proportions, and learn shading. You're on the right track here.
And, stop drawing on lined paper. Cheap copy paper is better than lined paper.

>>4556712
Are you preemptively moving goalposts or just retarded?

Symbols are not a problem. Badly-drawn symbols are a problem. Everything except hyperrealism is a simplification- a symbol- to represent the 3-D world on 2-D paper. When pro artists symbol-draw, nobody complains because their symbols actually look good.

>>4556726
Yikes, try this with a work of your own maybe? Why do you keep doing this? What is the crack you get from misleading people into believe this? Why is it so hard for you to understand that a symbol isn't the shape of an eye/head/torso/etc... it's not me who has a cognitive problem here buddy

>>4556709
>>4556722
Thank you. I will try to get rid of the "sloppy look", I'm still kind of uncomfortable drawing with the shoulder/elbow. I'll get better paper soon, probably next week, but for the time being, this notebook's all I have.

When and how often should I ask for critiques? Just when I get stuck/plateau, or earlier and more often than that?
Whenever I draw, I usually can see a bunch of stuff to improve upon, so I don't think I should ask for critique until I've solved it. And then I do solve it, but always find new things to work on.
I *am* getting better, so it *seems* like it's working, but are there any pitfalls I could run into by so rarely asking for critique?

>>4556389

>>4556496

>>4556597
dont get high, try out clip studio. you can get 3 month trial fo free nigga.

>>4556597
>only have gimp
use krita, it's libre

>>4556743
As often as you can handle.

Posted this at the end of last thread. Any more thoughts? Also to the other anon, what can i do about the lower midsection?

Nice to se actual /begs/ posting
>>4556842 except for you

I would have made this better if photoshop didn't place my lines with a 5 second delay, think my pc needs a restart.

>>4556662
You're still right at the beginning, don't be so concerned about things (including my crit), most importantly just focus on improving your line control and accuracy.
In other words just draw a lot.

>>4556686
>Every drawing involves symbols. Better artists just draw better symbols.
If everything is symbol-drawing then nothing is symbol-drawing because the distinction would become meaningless.
Sounds like you don't understand the intended meaning behind it because you're too concerned with the literal words.
>>4556726
Symbol-drawing as a beginner problem and intentional simplification and stylisation are so far apart in the conceptual universe that I do not understand how you conflate the two.
Go back to a book or video that talks about symbol-drawing and try to actually understand what they mean by that, instead of pretending that your literal preconception of the term accurately reflects it's meaning.

>>4556748
Seething /beg/

>>4556865
Ive been called /beg/ even still. I just find that we are all /beg/ till we make it.

Reposting from last thread

>>4556869
Thanks. I did not notice that mistake on the leftmost side of the left eye (right of the picture). I thought the "joining" of the upper and bottom eyelids would be better "translated" to the paper by shading rather than lines, but seeing how you did it, that makes a lot of sense. I will try to do some other drawing implementing your advice tomorrow.

>>4556890
I feel that the bold blacks of the hair and facial hair are too jarring for the softness of the shading you implimented. Id say either go with bolder shading, or make the hair not so black if that makes sense

Well I tried the homophobe waifu >>4556748 instead the of thread ref >>4556421 because I don't have the skill to pull it of. How should I continue from here?

>>4556842
Is this supposed to be a coomer trying to kill chad and virgin?

>>4556896
I does make a lot of sense, I drew the hair, eyebrows and beard while doing the lineart. Any tips as regards drawing hairy parts in general? Especially via digital media?

>>4556897
The fact that you don't have the skill to pull it off is precisely the reason why you should try it. That's the whole point of practicing.

>>4556900
Im glad you caught it. Yeah it is lol

>>4556896
Also any comments on the shading itself? First time doing it, I had to invent the one on the left side ear.

maybe It's just me but he feels asymmetrical

>>4556908
Thanks man, here is the ref I used if you wanna have a look at it.

>>4556897
nice anon, keep it up.

>>4556386
Done some loomis and will continue the rest. Super beginner btw.

>>4556912
A good first step anon

>>4556912
You make me want to draw some chibi old men.

>>4556590
Thanks a lot for the redraw again anon, I swear that's how she usually looks like in my imagination but my mind wasn't working right on that first drawing today, I guess I was trying to be realistic with long faces or something.
Now it's on the right track

>>4556901
>>4556906
Sorry friend still trying to learn those myself. But oddly you are pretty good at getting the general flow of the hair. Your shading is pretty good too. As unhelpful as it may sound, id say just practice and see what becomes of it.

more loomies

reposting this from last thread while i work on something else.

when i am drawing i keep telling myself im drawing too slow and being too careful but when i try to speed things up my brain starts to tell me i am missing finer details and drawing too impatient.

is this imposter syndrome? i get the feeling im artificially boosting the quality of my art by taking more time than i usually would. does anyone else get the same feeling? it has to be a common feeling right?

>>4556934
Well cheers for that anon-friend. I wish you good travel on your journey to making it.

>>4556937
Hi I'm /beg/ and this doesn't feel like /beg/ my man, I'd say you're doing pretty good!

>>4556941
Likewise!

>>4556496
I'm not super clued in on anatomy but I think at this angle you would start to see the dorsal muscles on the back

>>4556950
also can you post reference

>>4556933
Glad I could be of help :)

should i be reading norling's book on perspective while doing loomis?

>>4556937
Not /beg/

>>4556944
An interesting concept. I would say the thing that stands out to me other than to practice is the hands. A suggestion would be to have her walk on her knuckles like a gorilla or with flat palms but not the way you put it.

>>4556937
>is this imposter syndrome?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome

Being able to slow down is a skill, stop worrying.

>>4556961
Yes I agree with that. The reference I used wasn't even for knuckle walking. so im a bit of a dummy

>>4556909
Well now I at least see why It happened. It fine then I suppose.

>>4556958
Try it out, maybe you'll learn even more if you combine both

>>4556968
Really? Would you mind pointing it out?

I think I'm not seeing the shapes correctly on the reference, I desaturated it to work in grayscale but I had some trouble differentiating them on the lighter transitions.

Still struggling to figure out how to draw on a tablet.
Is there a way to rotate the canvas that isn't horribly time consuming?

>>4556982
Looks like you're using krita, Hold down ctrl and use your pen to turn. 5 resets the canvas orientation, 4 is rotate left and 6 is right.

>>4556997
I mean Shift not Ctrl.

Are Proko's courses worth it?

>>4556945
>>4556959
i know theres an intermediate general but it seems pointless since the difference between the two is so minuscule

>>4556962
youre right, my time spent worrying should be time spent on drawing instead thanks

>>4557015
Are you gonna pay for them? Theres a bunch of free books/videos from the masters that /ic/ has an abundance of

>>4557021
the main problem is that the difference between /beg/ and /int/ is mostly subjective past a certain point.

>>4557021
Based, I'd rather this guy stay in /beg/ desu.

I've drawn a lot but I'm still /beg/-tier when it comes to drawing without reference. I need a better gameplan.

>>4557022
Of course not, there are mega links. I mean, are they worth the effort?

>>4557044
I agree someone came with a pretty good idea of fixing this whole fiasco but I doubt it will ever be implemented

>>4556421
Really enjoyed it. Too bad about the awkward hand :/

>>4557075
The spear will cause some serious bleed with all the pixels there. Have the same problem with pixelation.

Would you recommend getting a posing doll for drawing? What's a good one to get?

>>4557099
Just use your imagination.

>>4557050
Have you drawn a lot of studies of the things you want to draw from imagination? Are they GOOD studies where you faithfully recreated the thing by breaking it down into basic shapes, or are they so-so studies that you know aren't as accurate as they could be yet?

>>4557101
I have none

>>4557107
Why posting this again pal ?

>>4557119
Now is your chance to practice.

>>4556982
Alright so to draw anything in digital you need to use both opacity and size pressure.
All the dumb youtube tutorials i've seen they just say that brushes don't matter just use the hard round, which is all just complete bullshit.
>but everything in that image is garbage
Yes it is but it's because i'm bad and not the brush this time. Also i switched to photoshop not sure if krita is just bad or something but i'm going with this for now.

>>4557161
lol shut up

>Tfw the CHARACTER GROWTH finally hits you
MY WAIFU IS REAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHE'S FINALLY HERE.
KICK SOME BUTT, ASTRA

>>4557184
Good attempt anon.

>>4557184
>tfw will never experience this feel
G-good for you

>>4557135
Nobody critique it

>>4557161
do not get all anxious. You will need some weeks to get used to it.
"in digital" you can use all kind of settings depending on what is needed. Most of the time I prefer to use either size or opacity
size+opacity - sort of like a pencil or ball-pen
just size - is sort of like ink
just opacity - is sort of like paint.
shape and softness of brush tip is additional matter and hard round is what recommended to use for reasons.
t. /beg

>>4557189
You got 2 crits. Check again.

>>4557197
Oh. Okay.

>>4556421
Gave it a 10min quick ref job. Not my best but getting the feeling for it again. Didn't draw the face because I always get too caught up in those and wanted to focus on the figure.

>>4556897
I trust that you have enough skill to attempt the other ref. Go for it anon.

haha

another one of Proko's exercises. This time tracing

>>4557184
THE INVOCATION IS COMPLETE.

if only you knew how bad things really are

One day i'll prove that programmers can draw, just you wait /beg/

decided to do a sketch from a Mike Tyson match. I was planning on posting just the sketch without colour since it better captured the motion but my dumb ass forgot to use a different layer, so this is what you get.

should i just stop worrying if my drawing looks good? it constantly brings me down and makes me sad

>>4557321
You got the gestures wrong but I suppose you did it on purpose to make the action more readable.
I like it bro.

>>4557340
Close but not quite. No one here expects you to draw something good, we're beginners BUT your drawing should improve as you go on.
As you draw, look for little things you feel wrong, erase and correct. At least you should know that your drawing was better than what it started as, that's improvement.

not an "artist" but like copying araki while i listen to podcasts and i always have problems with the sizing of facial features

>>4557364
pic for post

>>4557021
/beg/ and /int/ both have a lot of /int/ and higher level artists doing critiques. But the point of /beg/, which should be obvious if you're not a total retard, is in the /beg/ thread, /int/ and higher level artists are supposed to offer advice/critique to help the /beg/s. But usually what happens on /beg/ is the occasional ACTUAL /beg/ tier artist makes a post in between a dozen /int/ level drawings from artists desperate for attention who are too much of pussies to participate in a thread where their skills are middling comparatively. Because posting their /int/ level art in a weight class where it belongs is too much for their fragile egos, so they'd rather play in the kiddie pool and mog the beginners.

Colors I like,
everything else I don't know,
is it

wall is the best

>>4557398
find me some intposters here in beg then

>>4557350
Yeah I only used the pic as inspiration. However I'm still struggling with light values, I would be happy If someone can drop some hints for that, also my anatomy is not really on point yet.

>>4557408
Different anon, this >>4556937 absolutely doesn't belong in /beg/, and the post the guy made feels like humble-bragging that has nothing to do with the thread's subject

>>4557321
I think you should find better ref. The image is blurry and the dark skin blends to the background.

>>4557416
but you people talk like it's big part of it. not one guy come to the board posed one picture he very proud of and that is.

How do I get past the disconnect I feel with a tablet? I just can’t place my pen on the screen

>>4557416
that's maybe one out of twelve needed for a "dozen"

yeah they slip through the cracks, but not nearly as much as people try to frame it

>>4557421
watch some ctrl paint free vids

>>4557424
Is that YouTube or a site?

>>4557425
both, it's a dude

his website's better organised tho
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library

watch the freebies

>>4557421
Draw more.

Any tips on pricing art for commercial use? I've been commissioned to do 7 peices for a client but I havent set up strict prices. The last peice I did for them I charged £150 which was one large scale image this is roughly 7 smaller things. How should I price things? The style is similar to newspaper comic strips

>>4557398
ive always shown my drawings to my peers and critique circles who are mostly much better than me. getting rid of ego was the 1st trick to learn in art. and based on my experience i legitimately felt that the "weight class" difference between /beg/ and /int/ is redundant

the skill difference is about 1-2 months i'd say. as in, on the 1st day of a program you'd meet people from both pools but by the end of a semester the curve flattens out significantly.

but i am sorry for giving you this impression and i will not post any future stuff

>>4557416
my concerns for my efficiency vs quality control were and still are quite real. i don't understand how it is off topic to the drawing process. in fact i am more surprised that it is a topic that does not come up more often in threads.
anyway like i mentioned to the other anon, sorry for being retarded i fell for the pyw meme

>>4557467
Wrong thread buddy

>>4557398
>ACTUAL /beg/ tier artist makes a post in between a dozen /int/ level drawings from artists desperate

this is just how /beg/ level work looks like. Create personal /day0/ thread if you feel attacked so much.

>>4557421
is your tablet in front of you or to the side?

>>4557475
which is the right one?

>>4557485
People usually make their own threads when talking about commissions. Generally if you're not asking for critique on a specific work of art then you can make your own thread. The generals are so that all the 100+ drawings that get posted here every day don't clutter up the board with individual threads.

where did i go wrong

>>4557478
Do you not see the connection between all the blogposts in this thread where /beg/ artists admit they've been drawing for 4+ months and yet they refuse to post their artwork, how that correlates with the deluge of /int/ tier art in the /beg/ thread? Very few people in /beg/ are day1/week 1 artists. Most have been drawing for a few months but are too intimidated by the /int/s to post. The fact you are pushing back so hard against what is so plainly happening and retarded, means you're likely just another /int/ too scared to participate in their weight class

>>4557507
You made a oval

>>4557534
I don't know where you're getting any of this from.
A lot of people are still complete shit after four months and barely distinguishable from day0s. It's not like, oh you've been drawing for X amount of time, now you're /int/. People generally seem to agree that the /beg/ phase can last for years.
Maybe you can do some decent looking studies at 4 months, but your original work will still be shit. Again the name of the thread is /beg/ and not /day0/ and trying to further subdivide up /beg/ into more skill classes is pointless.

>>4557534
> all the blogposts in this thread where /beg/ artists admit they've been drawing for 4+ months and yet they refuse to post their artwork too intimidated by the /int/s to post

show me two
> you're likely just another /int/ too scared
you got me.

>>4557534
Its pointless to post day 0 work, since the critique is always "draw more". Only once you've put some sweat in is more specific criticism useful.

exercise in colour value. I always think my brain automatically assumes that things are brighter than they are

>>4557507
If you aren't drawing from reference, you should.

this sux

>>4557428
Do you think watching this and reading KTD will improve my drawing skills?

>>4557571
here's the same picture after some corrections. Crazy how much black stands out even in a dark image like this

>>4557575
what's up with the blurry eyes?

>>4557534

So what you're saying is that /int/ is filled with /beg/s, which makes others think that legitimate /int/ material is only /beg/ tier?

>>4557571
Pick a neutral canvas color/tone instead next time, white is no bueno.

Seeing the hands as one shape is easier said than done. Should I colour it now?

>>4557576
i never got anything out of the left side of the brain or keys to drawing books. you just gotta realise that you're not drawing what you see and that it's your job to fix it, and the books become meaningless; they're meant to teach normies about symbol drawing and how your eyes lie. i started with erik olson's perspective course

>>4557580
There's /beg/ work here that's better than the art in a lot of crappy "how to draw" books. 4chan skews towards high standards for everything, like on /fit/ you're dyel until you can rep 1/2/3/4 pl8 even though most normies would be extremely impressed with less.

>>4557579
resize tool

>>4557589
does she have six fingers or is that a misplaced thumb?

>>4557595

I don't think there's anything wrong with 4chan having high standards in any XYZ subject, but I just can't get over why everyone here feels like unless you're in essentially the Greek pantheon in said subject, you're lower than the lowest of worms and grubs.

Like, c'mon people, god damn. No wonder I keep seeing what I genuinely consider /int/ work being posted perpetually in /beg/.

>>4557602
You mean her right (our left) hand? It's a misplaced thumb, I assumed her the tip of her thumb would have peaked out from the outline of her index finger.

>>4557589
I think feet is better. hands still awkward.
I cant draw hands so can't help.
like why fingers on other hand is curling, hand must just hang or fist be placed on top of side thing/ try take this pose yourself

>>4557620
>curling
hm it's not a word. but I hope you get what I was trying to say

>>4557626
I do. I suppose curled fingers would make the pose look rigid since I had to force my own fingers to curl when recreating that position.

>>4557629
If I roll myself in a fetal position would that be considered curling?

Hi beg, heres my drawing and my ref

>>4557630
I'm fairly sure curling's a sport involving broomsticks on ice.

why do i have exams I just want to draaaaww

>>4557575
I'm proud of you Anon, you finally got out of your confort zone and drew something with a different pose

>>4557605
I think you're just very new and you're very impressed by anything that shows a basic understanding of perspective and form.
There's plenty of work in /int/ and other threads that is not /beg/ and also not part of the "Greek pantheon". Most of the work posted in /beg/ belongs in /beg/ and is not even at that intermediate level. There's absolutely nothing unreasonable about our standards for people who are aiming to be pro artists. Sorry if you can't see that.

>>4557638
Your exams will end in a month at the latest, use your desire to draw as motivation for you to study for your exams.

>>4557630
You'd be curled up, you'd not be doing curling.

>>4557419
It's a video that I just Pause at random times and sketch

I'm using Krita to draw but is that good? I've got Photoshop and I've heard it's one of the best soft wares to draw on... Which software do you recommenced?

>>4557398
Could you post some /int/ examples, since I've seen a lot of people there, who already have a grasp on the fundies, get sent to /beg/

>>4557405
Looks pretty tight all around. Now remove the lineart and finish painting to the end.

>>4557672
Krita is good. Photoshop is better, of course, but Krita is good enough for digital painting in my /beg/ opinion. I would say that if you intend to work as a professional you should go with Photoshop but if you just want to draw for fun you can choose either one.

>>4557672
Whichever makes you draw.

>>4557676
>>4557677
Alright, Guess I'll continue to draw on Krita for a week then test out Photoshop for the week after that.

>>4557633
Legs are tiny, study proportions

Did I make it /beg/? Can I finally post in /int/?

>>4557687
yes
5 more heads and you'll be /pro/

>>4557633
Try again. This time before you draw, hold up your pencil to the refrence and look at the angle they're standing at. Pay more attention to the curves of the legs.

>>4557589
Should I give up and try another pose? This looks awful and nothing seems to be working. Something isn't working here.

>>4557687
Ears are very high

>>4557690
I knew it, thanks anon, you did it again

>>4557546
Care to elaborate?

>>4557692
I think the perspective it messing with you.

>>4557695
As your initial head shape, which made the head too wide in the end.

>>4557692
That's not what a hand looks like and her wrist looks like it's broken/made of rubber with no bones.
It should be easy to take a pic of your arm in this position to study.

>>4557697
I see it, the end of the sleeves are not in the same angle as the arm itself, so it's giving me the impression that I should draw the hands at the same angle as the sleeve ends.

>>4557693
true, now that you mention it I see it. I went for a bit of an angle on the head which fucked with me in the end. Any other noteworthy thing you wanna add? Always grateful for the critique.

>>4557676
>Now remove the lineart
but I trying this thing anime people do.
unsuccessfully of course

>>4557705
I mean the whole piece, not just the arm.

>>4557712
>but I trying this thing anime people do.
which thing

>>4557687
You know how to draw the individual parts but you have no idea how to put them all together.

>>4557719
lines thing

>>4557731
Thanks! You really think the individual parts are not terrible?

And you're right, I suck at construction. Any tips or resources to get better? Or just draw?

>>4557715
I figured my high school knowledge of vanishing points wouldn't work on anything that doesn't have hard straight edges.

>>4557763
Only just noticed I forgot the base of the seat.

>>4557719
oh -- I now see, I refer wrong post. I was thinking about to say something about krita and ink to post was left in message box

>>4557763
>sausage limbs

>>4557740
Just study where the main landmarks of the face should be placed such as the brow ridge, button of nose, ears, center of eyes. All of these are related to eachother in their position. The more landmarks you know the less room for error there can be.

im writing a manga comic where a girl gets drugged and raped horribly in most of her holes and i needed an ugly man to play the part of the penis - this is my design so far, thoughts?

>>4557792
Unbelievably fucking based

>>4557789
I do use Loomis but I never seem to get it right when I'm drawing from imagination, it only really helps when I'm using reference.

>>4556386
this is something I've made days ago

I would call myself an INT but I post this one here because yesterday I finally got to the 100 day of Drawing daily and could only celebrate with a 20 min drawing. Grinding on drawing and studying at the same time is hard, most of the time I have work to do

PD: WENA SILVIO, love the colors bro, won't reply directly to your drawing so you're more prone to getting good critique but still love the way you distributed the colors and shaded with them at the same time! oh, and also Guacamole nigga penis

>>4557673
>Could you post some /int/ examples,
>>>4549506

Yeah totally /beg/ right? It's totally not an intermediate artist posting unfinished sketches to fish for compliments

Fuck /int/ shitters, imagine being in the middle of a masters in math and you show up to a pre-calc algebra class, its just stupid and gay

>>4557828
how the hell do you keep up to 100 days?

>>4557836
pyw

Is Keys To Drawing good?

>>4557846
pyw

i cant draw humans for shit

>>4557855
good things niggers arnt human

>>4557854
pyw

>>4557836
I'd rather see someone really good post than the constant posting of symbol drawings.
There should be a thread for those people, maybe it could be stickied and have a bunch of resources for people who haven't the slightest idea on how to draw.

>>4557836

I don't think this is always the case, anon. The problem is that there seems to be people who go around to low or mid tier /int/s and tell them to go post in /beg/. Then these anons do so, and everyone gets mad at them for posting in /beg/.

>>4557859
pyw

>>4557865
i did before its in this thread

do we need a new general for people who can draw what they see well enough to fool the begs in this thread into thinking theyre good?

>>4557872
/probeg/

>>4557860

Absolute beginners need to read and follow the sticky more, but how are they supposed to get any feedback if they can't even post in /beg/? Humans routinely suck at objectively evaluating their own work.

>>4557836
That guy was an anomaly and not at all representative of the average /beg/ post.

Did another Xa study. I just wish things came more naturally to me.

>>4557836
its weird how you are some kind of reverse-crab constantly trying to shoo others out of your bucket instead of pulling them back in
the crabs of ic are evolving

>>4557842
Making things like left pic when I don't have time/feel uninspired and making things like right pic when I feel the opposite

>>4557893
How the fuck is telling someone that they're good crabbing? I swear you people do this on purpose.

>>4557902
Telling someone that they're good when they're not is a very common form of crabbing, to make them get complacent and stop trying as hard.

>>4557902

Anon, the guy you quoted literally used the word "reverse-crab." Like, the absolute opposite of crabbing.

>>4557905
i dont get it, when i show my friends a drawing they say its good how is that crabbing when its not even on /ic/

>>4557905
Telling someone that they're shit is also crabbing though, why don't you admit that every /beg/ is a crab?

>>4557897
nice
>>4557911
well... people who doesn't draw always say that

>>4557885
hello i consider myself beg but great work for a quick exercise.
somethings to note are that the shoulders are abit wide and the pose is abit off.
try to notice points and shapes in the negative space as well (such as how the referenced hair is very close to the hand on the right, arm on the left is closer to the hips, heel on the right being closer to the thigh and staff, etc etc)

overall very good and bonus points if you mixed your own colours and didnt use eyedrop tool

>>4557909
>the crabs of ic are evolving
They can't be crabs if they aren't crabbing.

>>4557902
how the fuck are you this bad at reading?

>>4557921

Thanks anon. Yeah, I need to work better on the relative spacing between objects (distance from hand to hair, etc.) as you mentioned. I did try to mix the colors in naturally as opposed to a flat copy-paste with the eye dropper tool, haha. People keep saying I'm good on coloring when I posted prior works, but I'm also trying to grind that too.

>>4557916
You are clearly a schizo and not worth talking to.
The average quality of the work posted in the /beg/ thread is /beg/ level. You can look at the work posted and see this. End of story.
This is why the /int/ thread is a terrible idea, it causes BOTH /beg/ and /int/ threads to be flooded with meaningless shitposting.

Here is the same drawing I posted earlier in the thread with the loomis skellington still in there. Anyone can comment where I went wrong? Do I just need to practice more?

I hope someone screenshots this thread.

>>4557954

Does this composition look attractive to you? I wanna make it kinda like a movie poster, but I can only think of making the canvas even taller

>>4557954
You misunderstood the thirds of the face. That's why your face is all stretched.

>>4557993
Damn, so useful. thanks anon.

>>4557954
>cock, doctor Freeman? Is it really cock fucking time again?

>>4557995
too much thins aligned in the middle

>>4557836
> Being asian and autistic
> Been lurking here for a year
> Finally decide to open myself
> Post a picture ask some simple questions for direction
> Get shit on
> Decide to lay low and post studies
> See people still bitching over a subpar picture
Fuck you. I can only draw several poses dude. The pose, the armor, and the background on the pic are very easy to draw. There are a lot of artists who draw frontal poses like that. Plus, I made a lot of anatomy and perspective mistakes. Why do you have to piss over a mediocre picture of mine ?
The coom artists that I learned from:
Nullghost, Anhes, Jiandou, Anthyutena, Jacketbear, Jiraiya, Marccus, Kfutaba, Dizdoosz, Mentaiko, Takeshi Matsu, and Tooboshoo .... I shit you not.
> My goal is drawing high quality porn for my self. Here's the Bulma layer for you to laugh at. Will I make it?

>>4558033
>mediocre
back to int

>>4558007
but if you draw your loomis guide over some actual faces like this one you will build the muscle memory to do it better next time.
or maybe loomis isnt your thing at all, there are other ways to draw the head that dont rely on a perfect circle.

>>4558033
(i think its a cool picture, its just kind of hilarious how beef cake it is among all these other random studies. please keep drawing)

>>4558046
Yeah, when I draw a face from reference I use loomis and it comes out not so bad (I'm >>4556890), so I'll take your advice I probably just need to practice it some more.

>>4558033
Yeah it looks superficially good but front poses aren't a big indicator of skill. Also sketches look way more dynamic than a real finished piece, so god knows how good would this still look once you reduce it to 1 lineart instead of 30.
Nah still really good but you can't leave /beg/ until you actually finish pieces and they look good, getting good at a few things is part of the process.
I'm saying this for the people shooing you away

>>4557472
Anon dont stop posting just because some crab told you to. Who cares if you post in /beg/? Sure you have /int/ level skills when it comes to drawing faces but you're probably lacking in other drawings that make you feel like you're in /beg/. Just do you

>>4558033
was this drawn from a reference?

>>4558075
Search rule34.paheal king_cold

>>4558081
>This guy

>>4557836
Hes also copying someones work anon, and its flaws have been also pointed out. The man's a /beg/inner wether you like it or not

>>4558042
Whats the point of dividing artists by their skill?

>>4557868
pyw

>>4558087

Hold on, simply having flaws can't be what makes someone a /beg/inner. Otherwise, what's the point of having /int/? Why do anons here talk about low, mid, and high tiers within each ranking?

>>4558033
t. beg

>>4558092
pyw

>>4558090

Because otherwise you have people literally saying that everyone who posts is a /beg/ if they aren't literally in a pro industry job making 6 figures, and that's just not true.

>>4558103
How is this any different from sending everyone who can draw a circle to /int/ and /alt/?

>>4558096
If the flaw stems from having zero knowledge of this principle or that principle then it's beg. If the flaw stems from still needing to work on a certain principle but they clearly understand and aware of its existence then that's int

>>4558090
the thread is supposed to be for studies, by people starting out, to get critique on what theyre doing right/wrong. what isnt a study would be better in the draw thread. i dont know what int is for.

Here's an idea, don't have any special threads for subjective tier levels. Everyone gets their own thread.

>>4558033
I tried to be nice and helpful >>4556590
. This is the last time I post here.

>>4558133
now ill never know why bulma was turned into a bird creature thing.

>>4558117
This is where you fail though. I'm a /beg/ but most of the time don't outright ASK for advice, I just post my pieces so you can enjoy them. This is a place to post even your smallest drawing to show that you're still trying

>>4558133
NO ANON PLEASE
Your redraw was way too helpful to help me create my perfect character, this place needs you please, don't listen to some guys trying to get rid of you with technicalities when others offer counter-arguments.
Getting good at drawing character lineart is just one step of the big scheme of drawing, just like some others become turbo-masters of color and rendering without knowing how to draw

we need just one separate /shizo/ thread for this agonized shitposter who littering /beg

>>4558133
pyw

>>4558142
>but most of the time don't outright ASK for advice
name of the board means everyone and their granny will critique what you post, no matter your intention.

>>4557897
The anatomy is completely fucked on the right even in stylized context.

>>4557954
You have no idea what Loomis is. You probably skipped all the text and only memorized the pictures in the book.

>>4558151
I mostly meant that posting in /beg/ for fun is allowed, whatever keeps us going forward.
As long as people still have much to learn they're beginners, so that guy good at sketching isn't necessarily /int/.
The fact that there are actual people who just started to take a pencil here shouldn't exclude those who are getting good, it's like the uber-begs ask the ones rising to just stay hiding in the shadows until one day they pop up in the bigger threads.

New

>>4558168 >>4558168 >>4558168

>>4558073
>>4558092
alright then heres an old one thats the complete opposite from the other drawing. as in its a stylized quick sketch with no reference.

>>4558179
Huh, I say you're on that line where you can post here for advice (though there's less than 5 anons who could give it), or post on the /int/ threads to see what happens.
Your drawings are definitely around the level of the things I see there, but I'm not sure if they'll give advice.
You're still a valuable asset for giving tips to the /beg/s here though

God damn this is exactly the kind of style that inspires me. Any tips for learning how to draw in this kind of style?

>>4557933
Hey there, I've finished another baphomet drawing. This one is inspired by a short smut story that I'm currently writing. I tried to make it as comfy as possible.

>>4558392
>>4557933
Uh, sorry I quoted you by mistake anon.

>>4558392
good stuff but u need to work on ur penors

Any suggestion on the inkwork? Critique?

>>4558481
I wish I had something nice to say...
What's mainly bothering is the chicken scratching, try to get nice flowy lines. Don't care about the line weight yet you can allways adjust it later. And then about line weight it's very inconsistent. Usually artist have a method about what they want achieve with line weight. In concept art for example the most common way to add line weight is thicker lines in shadow areas and AO. This would give the most readable image.

can somebody help me with me the pose and perspective?

Could anyone recommend some digital painting or color/value tutorials for an absolute beg? Preferably youtube tutorials. I know I shouldn't be polishing turds but I feel like working with something besides line art will help me understand volume better and I'm tired of having nothing I can call "finished" work.