/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4551064

>>4551166
Lmao got me

>>4551166
I can't be.

>>4551166
You son of a bitch

Weirdest process I've done so far

>>4551439
Zoinks

Imaginary Pepe dance

>>4551439
You undoubtedly have ability with a pencil but you need to understand perspective and anatomy much better. Its weightless as if they're floating in space.

I had to de saturate everything, I honestly don't know how to paint like at all. I also didn't bother trying to do the linework so that may have also affected things.

I am leaving this place. I will. Ya hear me?

sketch from last night

>>4551064
Arent these threads a bit redundant
There's always been a draw thread so who thought this would be a good idea make another pointless general

>>4552183
except /draw/ is half /beg/s being told that they dont belong in /draw/

I liked that one guys idea of generals related to subject matter instead of skill. sooner or later the /int/ thread will be flooded with shitposting and complaints about skill level, it always happens. it also seems redundant because there’s not enough “advanced” art in /draw/ for there to be a need to fill the gap.

what do you guys think of /fig/, /bg/, and of course a porn containment thread? we already have /alt/ for cartoons and a regular animation thread. a still life general would be cool too.

Going to move onto something else now, thanks for all the crits anons.

>>4552183
I think if the two end up conflated then it's not really a big deal but I agree there's not really a difference so it's kind of pointless.

>>4552382
creating arbitrary containment threads for various subjects seems like an even worse idea.

>>4552532
they don’t have to be arbitrary. we could consolidate it down to maybe 3 or 4 broad threads. /fig/ for figure drawing, /bg/ for backgrounds and landscapes, and a porn thread for containment and maybe a still life drawing thread would be the most helpful for beginners. I just think if you’re trying to learn to draw landscapes you won’t find “intermediate everything” or “beginner everything” full of mostly deviantart ocs as useful. same for whatever else.

didnt see a draw thread.
posting here.

pls excuse the chromatic aberration, I want the ilya fanbase.

>>4552856
Not one edge is readable. It's literally all just blur. Clean your edges (at least some of them) and tone down the chromatic aberration (by like 80%).

>>4552791
I would change up the tree placement so it's not so repetitive, but otherwise it's really nice

I was away for a bit. Is this the new draw thread?

>>4552856
Stop using blurry effect and chromatic aberration to hide your mistakes.
Her right shoulder is detached from the torso.
Left hand pose is awkward.
Nose and mouth are weird..
And as the other anon said, clean your edges.

>>4552856
Wait, i recognize this "style"

>>4552519
This is a really awesome design but it looks to me like he’s floating/leaning forward

What do you guys think?

>>4553659
Thanks, yeah I think my underlying gesture/ perspective was a little off throughout the whole process so I'm going to work on that. Be to much work to change all that now without altering the whole and I've already spent too long on it.

>>4553747
honestly there is nothing wrong with reworking a piece completely. it only makes you stronger to let go of something you've spent ages polishing.

>>4553795
very true. when you spend hours on something it can be hard to stop noodling on tiny details. It's actually very freeing to just grab a giant brush and knock it around/repaint huge parts.

>>4553708
Come back to /beg/ baby, we miss you

>>4552157
Underrated post.

>>4553952
Oh fuck you

>>4553953

>>4551439
I can't tell if this is digital or trad

>>4553939
blog? i love the dimension to this

>>4553939
Dat subsurface scattering

Here goes another attempt at posting in the /int/ thread before it dies again.

>>4552183
Any thread where people actually post their work is welcome. Even if it's redundant, having another draw thread is better than having more exceedingly redundant east vs west or asian talent threads

>>4553747
the only things you really need to fix are his legs and feet, if you have photoshop or something similar it shouldn’t be too difficult. but I get the feeling of wanting to move on from it

>>4552791
The grass on the bottom left bank and the tree tops in the top left should be just as detailed as your river or the right bank, It kinda looks unfinished. And the bottom of those blades of grass should blend into the shorter grass beneath it or something. It is very nice tho!

o baby there are so many ways to cheat, but I think number 3 produced the best results

>>4553171
>>4554040

thanks for the feed back.

>>4554078

>>4554207

>>4553958
Digital, thanks

>>4551439
What is this face meant to convey

>>4554217
That's really cool looking, do you have a blog?

like this face

Legs too short, Head somewhat dislocated, and I can't figure out what's bothering me about the shoulders.

>>4553941
What exactly makes it unworthy of/int/ in your opinion? Lack of polish?

What's wrong with my girl?

>>4554381
Proportions of the face seem wrong, lighting is inconsistent (one leg is lighted from one side, the other from a different side), this strong hue shift in the shaded area suggest ambient lighting, but it's dark for it to be the case. Other parts are a matter of stylistic choices.

>>4554404
oh, thanks!

>>4553795
>>4554020
>>4553939

Thanks for the kind advice anons, yeah it's more a case of just wanting to move on to something else and learning something new more than wanting to fix it rn.

>>4553939
This is really nice anon. link to your work?

>>4554327
me 2

1/2

>>4554502
2/2

i just want to learn to do like really polished stuff, this is as far as I go, I want to learn to polish because I'm stuck with a bunch of unfinished stuff. I can't seem to do anything good when blending with opacity, it always ends up flat, blurry and messy.


What'd you guys recommend me to learn to get things to a more polished state? Like real smooth and finished stuff.

how long do you think it would take for a complete /beg/ to be able to start posting in here?

>>4554510
>>4554502
That's a great way to start out a study, good job with those.
I would recommend pushing the values for the torso a little more, especially darker tones. The contrast is a bit low. I know it's probably due to a reference you are using, but regardless you should make a study go beyond what you see on the ref.
The reason your art turns out blurry as you say, is probably cause in the process you tend to lose really sharp edges that should stay strong even on the more polished version of the study.
Could you provide an example of a more polished work you are not satisfied with?

>>4554510
>doing value study
>on a white bg
Kek

>>4554528
Around 100 hours would be enough to draw from life realistically enough to impress people and fit in here: it takes only 20 hours to finish all exercises from Keys to Drawing and the rest is enough to get confident with your choosen medium.

>>4554583
>he cant tell its not white
NGMI

>>4554585
thanks bro, i love you

>>4554596
<3
Just keep in mind that you'll probably still suck at drawing from imagination, so not every of your drawings will fit in here.

Can you guys help me? Can you guys give me a good schedule that isn't so hard to do everyday. I have this weird schedule of drawing the whole day while taking 5 minute breaks but it's still burns me out every now and then. Can you guys recommend me a better schedule that doesn't kill my motivation and keeps it consistent. I do realism portraits and currently studying in Watts Atelier. Great school, I highly recommend.

>>4554502
>>4554510
its >>4554575 again.
maybe you can find something useful in the initial polish i did
I would recommend keeping initial block in on a separate layer you can always go back to when to check if you didnt screw anything up in the process.
Experiment with different brush sizes for soft brushes and mix up different approaches to find what fits best

I did this for Djamila's draw this in your style mini competition but since I wasn't able to finish it on time, I couldn't join. It was a good practice but I'm a little sad of losing a good chance to shill myself without feeling like an asshole. I feel like I should've made some areas more prominent and maybe sharpen the image a bit but I'm too lazy to go back to it now.

I did this for Djamila's draw this in your style mini competition but since I wasn't able to finish it on time, I couldn't join. It was a good practice but I'm a little sad of losing a good chance to shill myself without feeling like an asshole. I feel like I should've made some areas more prominent and maybe sharpen the image a bit but I'm too lazy to go back to it now.

>>4552382
I like more the idea of having one general where everyone is allowed to post anything

>>4554324
It's a toddler I didn't want to give him a face, I even wanted him to have his face full of bread pieces or something similar. Toddlers don't have a big range of emotions when it comes to being neutral, they don't have nothing to show a reaction for, almost don't even think about it it's like when you grab a baby cat and it doesn't know how to react because it doesn't have experience doing so.

Sorry for the example, don't put me in a watchlist I just got it from google

>>4554326
https://www.instagram.com/nicodicodingo/
Also have a Twitter and FB page with the same name

>>4552053
Funny how I started drawing because an arrogant bastard at school challenged me at a drawing contest. He won. And then I surpassed him. I guess my motivation to improve more stems from the enjoyment I felt from surpassing that bastard.
Anyhow. I want your opinion on the perspective. I know the face got screwed up a little.

>>4554815
im a terrible noob but you should put more whites in the eyes or the person looks sick/dead imo

>>4551911
Pretty solid, thought this was a photograph from the thumbnail

>>4554575
>>4554649
hey anon thank you for the advice!, I'll apply the techniques you gave me next time.

>>4554815
Why so washed out? Looks to me like a missed opportunity to push some saturation that would add a lot of life to the drawing.

>>4552382
>of course a porn containment thread
Fuck off already

>>4555448
are you /salt/y you artlets have to be quarantined like caged monkeys?

@ZanmillerART on Instagram is a pedo

WIPin in the coco

Reading Robertson's rendering because I have giant problems with light values. Crosshatching looks like a faster way to study values than Photoshop which is laggy as hell. Won't my stylus worn out faster if I start drawing like that?
>>4555641
My friend, I recommend to abandon this piece and start doing more light value studies of cloth folds and humans from references, I know what your work will look like in the end because I just made the same mistake a couple of days ago
>>4551439
Looks nice but the holes in the grandpa's hand creep me out

>>4555698
I appreciate your view but this is itself a study from reference so I am going to complete it, and am totally prepared to repeatedly refine the drapery until I'm at least partially satisfied. unfortunately it's gonna have to wait a day as I just had a small commission come up but I'll post the finished version in whatever draw thread is going at the time.

I did a drapery study, the face could be better though

>>4555791
fuck

>>4555698

Thanks, They're polearm/pike holes

>>4556189
This is beginner tier not intermediate. Keep going though fren

>>4556189
Perspective and rendering work is definitely int, love the sitting dude, it's just that the method you use is kind of unusual so it's harder to critique it objetively. Keep going and you'll have something incredibly recognizable and pleasant, because I genuinely love your lines

I THINK i've finished it, not sure if I should render it properly or leave it like it is now

How do I shade with a pencil without it looking like shit?

>>4556254
I like this anon, maybe just darken the shaded areas. Tbh I've always hated pencil shading, this one looks nice

First time posting, hope file isn’t too big.

I always enjoy the sketching process, but as soon as I get to color I start hating everything and rush so I don’t have to look at it anymore.

>>4556512
kys coomer

>>4556512
Welcome home, coomer

>>4556254
>>4556276
Just started working on values and trying to figure out how to shade without causing graphite burnishing. Using anything harder than an HB instantly causes fucking reflective shit it's driving me insane. I'll just switch to pen and ink fuck pencils

>>4556247
Excellent pencil work, finish it!

>>4554898
Finished it. I want to do commissions. Should I?

Not quite done with this yet, where can I improve drawing wise?

>>4556247
Give some context, it looks like a grandad scolding his deformed grandson for getting caught smoking weed

>>4556903
try rotating your paper to more familiar and common orientations of the body parts. That way you wont have that much distortions.

>>4556917
It's the image that automatically rotated.

>>4556903
instead of drawing individual spots from the reference, try identifying "oh this is a muscle, ill draw a muscle on my paper now". you know - not drawing / shading what you see but what it is on the next level of abstraction

draw and shade more simplified, make lines either curved or straight, move away from middle-grounds and compromises and accuracy in a way. same for shading, dont worry about getting the gradient perfect, just kind of indicate where it starts, where it ends, and how sudden it changes

always always always draw faces and hands (and feet) if they are in the shot. it does not have to be detailed, just one quick line to indicate where they are, they give context to the rest of your drawing even if you dont focus on studying them in this particular picture

you are working pencil on paper with a potato cam, dont worry about getting values right or subtle. make the darks really dark, shade the whole page and erase out the light spots, make the picture as clear as possible even from a distance or with eyes half closed

not really what you can do better but an exercise that helped me alot when i was at your level, take any of your drawings, use it as a reference and copy it within 15 minutes. then copy it in 10 minutes, then 5.
they wont necessary look good but it will give you "a taste" on what you should focus on and what is unnecessary details.

keep working anon!

>>4556919
Well, if that's the case, then study the forms more. it helps to draw the contours of the solids that comprise the human body and it also lets you see where you distorted the drawing. Keep at it mate.

>>4554898
>>4556861
>I want to do commissions. Should I?
No. You are going to really struggle drawing what other people want. This drawing is awkward as hell.

Of all the problems, I want to most comment on your composition, lighting & value separation. The front of the figure that's facing us should be much more cast in shadow, so bring those values down, down, down. The dark values in the explosion are so overbearing & dominating over the figure - they should be pushed lighter by quite a bit. I've attached a very quick fix to illustrate this.

Also, not everything needs a gradient. You are straightup pillow shading elements of this piece. It's okay for some things to just be a flat color / value.

I'm not one to nitpick anatomy, but the figure is completely borked. Your execution of foreshortened perspective is very, very poorly done.

The composition is poorly planned. The whole thing just doesn't fit well together at all. Try thumb-nailing your piece next time - zoom out and block in large elements of the composition before going in further.

If you're going to use perfectly smooth digital brushes (ie. no texture brushed), consider overlaying some >subtle< textures over the piece. That perfectly smooth digital look just does not look good.

The background in particular is damning to the piece. Is that a wall? A building? What's that pillar going to the top? Is it supposed to be rectangular, or cylindrical (like a pipe)? The rendering of it all is just so incredibly bare bones, so basic that it heavily detracts from the overall piece. Do not let your backgrounds be total afterthoughts. It looks incredibly amateurish.

Overall, your skill level still seems very rudimentary. I would not consider doing commissions anytime soon. Though props for following through and making a finished piece - it is very important that you keep doing this.

>>4554209
Torso seems very long

>>4557573
pyw

>>4557573
I'd say go even darker on that armour. An explosion like that would be extremely bright

>>4557744
your work

I'll delve into color now, I'm currently just fucked as to how I'll do that and regretting the fact that I didn't go into it earlier while sketching it out

>>4556675
Very brave, I like it

>>4557754
Based.

>>4555408
I like washed out colors but I admit I'm not super happy with a color balance in this, I should've had more saturated areas to balance out the desaturated areas but that didn't really happen in this one and while I do get the point you're making, your edit is way over saturated and looks like an eyesore, no offence.

>>4556675
testing brightness

>>4557744
He literally gave good hearted and objective critique, even gave an example, cleaned up the drawing and wrote a motivational commentary. Maybe he said some Gordon Ramsayish things but still

>>4557843
I agree. But I'd still like to see his work or his blog to see more examples of what he was talking about.

Not every "pyw" is mean spirited or an attempt to discredit someone.

>>4557825
im gonna call bs on this. The edit that anon did did a really good job conveying actual emotion with color. But it's your painting anyways.

>>4557949
he maybe see things very differently on his monitor this is why.

>>4557825
>your edit is way over saturated and looks like an eyesore
There is something deeply wrong with your monitor if you think that >>4555408 is "way over saturated". Even >>4555408 is still what I would consider 'washed out'.

Don't know if I belong to /int/ already, but there's no draw thread around so I'll post this here.

Critiques will be appreciated. Or even people telling me to go back to /beg/

>>4558493
Cute. Blog?

>>4558513
/beg/ myself, but looks like she has a forehead tumor
is it from a reference or imagination
eyebrows also feel too high, and maybe the eyes as well
i like the background though. will be interested in seeing the finished piece

>>4558513
I think it could really benefit from improved lighting on the figure, especially considering the strong, obvious light source. Do this by better defining the planes of the face, shirt (which you sort of did already) & hair. Don't neglect the form of the hair - it is a 3D form just like the face with a front, side, back, etc.

Also, look up references of eyes from the side. Yours is currently off and I can't be assed to fix it for you.

Hello, this is my /int/ debut with a cat girl
The thing I had most trouble with was placement of her left nipple (female friend confirmed she could see her nipple between her arm like in the drawing when she did the pose in the mirror but it was still hard to pin down without a reference)

>>4557843
how is telling him hes too shit for commissions ""good hearted" in any way? There's entire oceans of absolute beg artists on twitter doing commissions just fine, and judging by this guys work he can probably handle himself fine out there.

discouraging him from doing comms just because this guy thinks his art looks "awkward" just seems crabby to me. So yea pyw

>>4558733
Well what the fuck were you expecting people to tell you? Your painting is shit. Take commissions if someones willing to pay, but next time post in /beg/.

>>4558731
based braphog

>>4558673
Stop drawing your nipples like red irritated pimples, its the most unflattering way that hentai artists draw nips

>>4558974
Now that you described it like that, I cant see those nipples the same

>>4558986
I mean I get the idea behind it, some draw them more unflattering than others. the Catgirl isn't the worst offender I've seen but I really think they should be drawn more flattering and true to life

>>4558974
>>4559036
hmm interesting take, could you provide an example of nipples you find more appealing

>>4558673
back to /beg/ with you

>>4558673
Why would you post this in int

>>4559089
Why not

>>4557832
its way too dark, doesn't read at all

>>4559078
Honestly, I have close to 0 coomer art saved, so I wouldn't really be able to give you a good example. but in the picture attached I think the nipples and breast are very appealing and the subtlety is very pleasing to the eyes.

>>4559078
Make a solid color areola with no lines and no texture. Make it about 3 inches in diameter in relation to the character. Blur the edge of the areola about mid way where the transition is still there but not razor sharp or blured to nothing. To create a slight puff to the areola keep the edge thats facing away from the viewer sharper than the edge facing the viewer. Add highlights to one side and shadow to the other...remember that the nipple is a separate shape from the more broad areola shape. Also stop painting on such a bright background its burning your and our eyes.

painting in SAI sucks cock but i cant get photoshop

any glaring problems with this head structurally?

>>4559133
>>4559159
I see what you mean. Thank you very much for this
>Also stop painting on such a bright background its burning your and our eyes.
haha well it was originally a white background until a changed it to light blue after I finished, what is the normal background color I should use?

>>4559435
Not that anon, but try a less saturated blue and maybe darken it a bit as well. You could also use a dark/medium gray too.

>>4559427
No, but the neck lacks structure.

dog head shape study. All I can say is, I could probably make It as a shitty prison tattoo artist

searching for a video where the artist insists that one of the easier ways to learn eye is to draw them as diamonds inside the socket. Saw it a few days ago and I can't find it anymore.

Also This pose is getting to me.

>>4557573
OP here. Fuck yeah this is the critique I want.
There's still hope for this board.

>>4557573
But if you can bother with it. I would like a redline on the anatomy. I want to see where I screwed up.

What needs fixing so far brehs?

>>4560128
Posted wrong version

>>4557573
Here's what I'm currently working on.
Also, I agree with>>4557744
>>4557884

Post work or blog or anything for that matter. I want to see how you do it.
I am gonna do commissions still. People who like my work will commission me. If they don't, then they should find someone who they deem better than me. I did not live to impress. Either way, I like making money while I train. Besides, the same people might commission me again if they see that I improved a lot more. This is the best time for me to do it.

>>4558673

Back to /beg/.

>>4560219
>>4560230

>>4560137
It's...very bizarre, but i kinda like it. I'd like to see more from you.

>>4558673
Guess you gotta grind Hampton some more before the /int/chads will accept you. Sorry buddy.

>ITT Beginners

>>4553939
>>4557761
>>4560284
These guys got the steez

>>4552053
>>4552519
>>4554815
>>4556247
These guys got potential steez but need more work.

Rest of yall need to go back to the basics big time.

>>4560329
Holy shit anon, you are a retard. I have seen few post in this thread that shouldnt actually post here, stop trying to gatekeep /int/ threads because it eventually turns into 300 replies of people arguing. You should give constructive critique instead of gatekeeping a underwater basket weaving forum

someone offered to pay me $100 for this to be done by tomorrow and I really need the money

someone offered to pay me $100 for this to be done by tomorrow and I really need the money, so I have the agreement in writing. This one isn’t a fun time.
(Reposted to fix orientation)

>>4560355
Straightening the photo sucks on an iphone. Forgive me, boys

>>4560329
Faggots like you should learn what does beginner mean. No, beginners don't draw for years

>>4560401
ok sami

>>4560355
Looks good, and definitely worth more than $100.

>>4560230
>>4560287
People on /beg/ can't even draw a cube so I don't see how my drawing is /beg/

>>4560473
Thank you!

>>4560355

Anon, you undersold yourself. I don't care for the piece in particular, but it's obviously way more than $100. You got to look out for yourself, man.

>>4560482

Just like there are degrees separating people in /beg/, /int/, and /pro/, there are low, mid, and high tier in each grouping. Just because you can draw boxes doesn't mean you're automatically qualified to jump to /int/. If that's the case, 75% of the posters who actually post their work on /ic/ should be in /int/.

>>4560488
I had a feeling, but I’ve never sold anything I’ve drawn before. I usually just do it for fun & I have no concept of value

>>4560490
Ok I agree with that but I also feel like I'm a little beyond just being able to draw a box. Could you point out what is particularly /beg/ about my drawing?

>>4560482
>People on /beg/ can't even draw a cube
can you?

>>4560495
I can but it seems like you can't? Not a very good redline bud

>>4560401
>beginners don't draw for years.
Ha ha.
Ha ha...

>>4560401
Someone post a pic of the same face "humans". You know the one

>>4560526
Holy fuck would you people stop using Sami in your dumb arguments like he proves anything.
He's clearly either a troll and/or a schizo. He proves nothing about art education in any way shape or form.

>>4560493

There are certain things to work on that catch my view. First, my main issue is that the lineart for the various portions of the body are inconsistent and don't match up with how the body part should look like. The right arm (the girl's left) in the drawing only resembles a quick/crude rendition of an upper arm, and there's fat sticking out near the shoulder that frankly should not be there on a person.

Your left arm (the girl's right) doesn't look right either. It's farther away and therefore should be smaller, but she doesn't seem to have any bicep muscle at all. Even if a girl is curvy, if she were to do that arm pose, there would still be some kind of indentation to demonstrate the bicep is being squeezed together - it's literally how the arm works.

The third issue here is the hair. It doesn't look like an object with its own mass and gravity, it looks like it was quickly drawn on with a circle at the top. You should go and do some hair studies, look at hair, see how it works. Even if you're drawing an east asian person with long straight hair, it doesn't sit on the head completely flat like a piece of paper - there's always some bounce.

It's for this reason that I and others feel that your drawing is /beg/. You're not the lowest of /beg/ by any stretch of the imagination, but you still have further refinement and work to do.

>>4560541
Well I highly appreciate your detailed criticism, thank you much. One interesting thing, not that you're wrong, but about not seeing the bicep in her right arm: you would expect to, but I really did the pose and used myself as a reference to draw this and it really wasn't visible, my drawing is pretty accurate to the picture I took of myself (and I'm pretty much built like a girl). Again in theory you are correct but this is just a little discrepancy.
But now the question is would I get this kind of criticism from /beg/? Because if not then I feel that justifies me posting here instead. I would rather be bottom of the barrel /int/ than a highly skilled /beg/, you know what they say in surrounding yourself with people better than you if you want to improve.

>>4560519
what brush are you using for the outline
really like the flow of the hair

>>4560137
Perspective man, I have no idea whats going on with the background

>>4560519
watch the perspective of the lips and nose, they feel like they are in the wrong perspective in relation to the eye/ profile view

>>4560563

Advice from /beg/ is pretty consistent. You just need to specifically ask for assistance, not just post a picture with little to no commentary.

Blocked in the shadows. How does the light source feel? I want to nail it down before I add the darkest lights, midtones, highlights, and lightest shadows.

>>4560624
I just use the Real G-Pen in CSP Ex. After I lock in the flats, I usually do one or two rounds around the piece shaping everything up.

Currently looking for a good tool for softer pieces, myself.

>>4560657
>How does the light source feel?
Did not get it.
feels semi-random for me. Most likely my own shortcomings

>>4560355
That's a really cute painting of the typical American family

Posting here because I was told it's not /beg/ in the current thread. I adjusted it slightly to fit perspective, but otherwise not sure if they perspective is still off or not. Other than that any other critique

>>4560750
Haha thanks, but it’s just graphite on some paper I got sitting around

>>4551086
>>4551129
>>4551963
>>4553708
>>4554381
>>4554898
>>4555641
>>4556189
>>4558513
>>4558673
>>4560040
>>4560034
>>4560790
>>4560128
>>4559898

the bell of reality rings

all tagged belong in beg

>>4560828
That's why I always post in both

>>4560828
>didn't get (you)'d

I'm gonna make it

>>4560828
Pyw

>>4560828
>don't belong in /beg/ or /int/

>>4560828
cope

A thing

>>4560040
that's the proko one on the eye.
he focuses on drawing the eye socket first and then remember that eyes aren't circles

Laying out a comic page.

>>4560828
People like you are cancer. /ic/ was honestly better without this autistic division by skill level, when everyone posted in the draw thread and nobody had to read your autistic, entitled bickering.

>>4561054
I'm honestly okay with there being a draw thread for posting your finished works and a /beg/ thread for people looking for critique and improvement. I never liked the idea of /int/ because there's no clear definition on what's /int/ and what's /beg/ and it's fucking stupid.

>>4560948
they were memeing you, you belong in beg

>>4560948
they were memeing you, you belong here

>>4560959
Holy shit I really love this. You got a blog?

>>4561090
Thank you, right now I have a shitty tumblr that I'll post more finished stuff on soon since I'm working on portfolio pieces for college
https://the-sp00k.tumblr.com/

>>4561125
nta but you have legit potential, that TCM study was really nice. you also can do good graphical linework. your coom art is the worst, but thats probably for the best. keep going

>>4561125
Thanks anon. You really show a lot of promise and your style is so cool looking. Good luck on your portfolio.

>>4561130
>>4561138
Thank you anons... I recently had my portfolio rejected for one college so I'm working to step my game up. Here's hoping that I make it in next year :,)

>>4560657
can't tell light direction, left hand arm should continue lighted, triceps should have shadows, the hand palm should be completly on shadows, the right elbow should be hit by light, also the right heel, while the sword should have casted shadows from her legs, starting around the right asscheek

>>4560959
Simple execution but this is industry pro tier
The idea for some reason reminds me of those Jazz Jackrabbit 2 level art

>>4560959
wow BRO this is SO good you're like a PRO, BRO, i LOVE this SO

I've gotten out of a rut where I hated everything I made and now I can actually make stuff I sometimes like, how long does this last and how much until the next plateau

>>4561446
>how much until the next plateau
a month tops

>>4561515
>that face
lmao

>tried to draw a cute girl
>turns out to be basically myself in drag
Why does this keep happening. I'm not even a cute girll.

My first time trying anime style. Please destroy me.

>>4561694
what's wrong?

>>4560828
pyw

>>4560855
>>4560828
In ya go

>>4561757
try to do whatever the fuck she's doing with her mouth IRL, what expression is that even trying to convey? constipation?

>>4561800
why is she so short? isn't samus like 6'5 or something?

>>4561813
Shes getting fucked in the ass anon

>>4561866
no

>>4560948
If people tell you to post in neither then just post in both.
Issue solved.

>>4560790
I actually think it's nice, but the perspective is definitely off.
The general perspective of the head rotates to the left, yet the facial features don't conform to that and rotate to the right, facing the viewer.
Same thing is going on with the pit of the neck as far as I can tell, the shoulders imply that the torso is rotated to the left like the head, yet the pit of the neck is facing the viewer where the clavicle should be.

Pretty sure you went straight into painting, so my advice would be to do some drawings first where you really pay attention to where the centerline should be on forms in perspective.

The right eye is really bugging me, but I can't be bothered to redraw it another 10 times only to make it worse.
Also I really need to figure out how to shade hair.

it's like I'm missing something.

>>4556247
Dude, you have probably the most promising graphic work I've seen in a time. Like your work with textures and values . If you can, post a link to your blog please.
(Also bonus point for a mushroom grandfather)

Is it okay to lower resolution of my painting before posting it?
or is it bad habbit and I should refrain from doing it.

>>4556247
Your render game is top tier but the composition and general shapes/gesture/silhouette feel too loose and don't send a message

>>4558673
Sometimes when you have a lot of trouble to make something look right it's actually because a different part of the image is off. Breasts move and change their shape somewhat when the arm is raised, so the nipple on that side should actually be higher than the one that's visible above the other arm. You placed it level if not slightly lower instead so her breasts end up looking like they're significantly different sizes and levels of saggyness.

>>4558673
>>4562461
Oh and you forgot to give her eyebrows.

I decided not to add highlights and keep the colors matte. Of course, their suits aren't completely accurate. What do you think?

>>4561515
I recommend you practice a few different expression with the help of a mirror and a focus on the mouth/lips. I understand that the girl's expression here is somewhat stylized, but it doesn't look convincing because you don't quite understand how lips work and how their shape changes depending on the expression/rest of the mouth.

studies - any feedback?

>watching Disney concept artists work on new designs for a movie
>they literally start with just the final lines on blank paper without any sort of sketch or reference
>it looks fucking fantastic
How is this real

>>4562512
The faces are wonky but the suits are fantastic, the matte colors look good

>>4562750
They took the gritpill.

>>4562757
Redpill me on the gritpill

>>4561515

Anon, faces and lips don't work that way.

>>4562512
I think I’d like this more if Rei was turning her face away from the viewer, maybe in profile? I feel like eye contact with the viewer doesn’t match the body language of her pose.

learning to paint, please roast it I need to learn fast

>>4562750
>Disney concept artists work on new designs for a movie
sauce me hombre

>>4562830
>>4562552
Absolutely horrid edge control in these two. You're both using soft gradients & subtle strokes to define a lot of features, but then the edges of everything are razor sharp. >>4562552 in particular is bad. It looks like you drew the hair completely separately, then drag&dropped it onto the portrait.

>>4562950

https://youtu.be/KZ1tK__Tkgg

>>4562830
Based on the thumbnail I thought this was going to be a painting of an orc. I understand you're probably shifting the skintone towards yellow-green because of the green enviroment, but it doesn't read well as is. Try tinting the shadows green and have the highlights be influenced by the color of the lightsource, but keep the midtones more of a regular skin tone.
Also consider an outfit color that stands out more from the background. The mushroom vest design is really cool, so don't hide it.

>>4562978
I didn't see anything out of the ordinary there. Just variations on poses and expressions he's probably drawn a trillion times before. He's obviously a very good artist but he wasn't doing KJG shit or anything.

>>4560128
nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWBAwywBAuY

update

Redraw

Some faces from imagination

i miss game of thrones

>>4563216
sketched in a parking lot while waiting for doordash orders to pick up :')

>>4562552
don't know who these models are so I made some quick adjustments

>>4563184
/beg/

>>4563259
Forgot to adjust his a forehead head bit

>>4563131
/beg/

scene from a 70s italian xxx film

>>4563301
pyw and I'll tell you where you belong

also

>>4563221
/beg/

>>4560828
Ok, /beg.

>>4563265
fair enough.

>>4563290
>>4563259
Left is clearly Robert deniro, and you absolutely butchered his likeness way worse than the original. Never critique anyone again

>tfw breakthroughs come in your sleep and there is nothing you can do to incite them except for grind all day and hope they happen
Holy hell, I had times where I progressed more through rest in a week where I didn't draw anything than in week-long all-day binge grinding sessions.

>>4563481
can you tell why it belongs in /beg/? does my previous sketch belong in /beg/?

>>4562774
Apologies for the late response. Basically the gritpill means you self-discipline and grind fundies for many years to git gud. You tough-out the grind and get rewarded with gains. 'Grit' is a concept in work ethic that's been around for a while, but has only recently (past ~100+ years) been given a name and method. Hope this helped.

Trying to emulate and study Shiyoon Kim's Boomer Pete by redrawing his concept art and frames from the movie

>>4562418
נראה מגעיל אחי תעשה קצת נקיון

>>4563591
Robert Deniro?
I actually have never heard of that guy

>>4561866
she's around 5'11" - 6' without the suit, but the Samus in that drawing looks less than 5'6"

>>4554680
Really nice.

>>4563115
is my drawing shit?

>>4562405
Eyes look fine to me. Of course I dont have the reference.

>>4564152
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not Israeli and use Hebrew only as reference to "Infected Mushroom". What do you mean by "cleaning"?

>>4565159
Learn how to construct before trying to render, you can't put shadows on something that doesn't have planes. Go back to /beg/, grind boxes and anatomy, learn how to think in actual 3D . Also don't be lazy and count on the drapery to hide the fact your body parts don't connect, actually draw the body in full.

>>4564760
Ref was posted in a beg thread.
The right eye is a bit too wide, I'm sure there's more but that is what's most apparent to me.
Also looking at it with fresh eyes, the hatching on the mouth looks awful. Maybe theres something I could do to make it work digitally, but if there is it eludes me. Should have went with flat values, prbly wouldn't look that messy then.

>>4565159
That hairline is gonna give me nightmares, is that supposed to be bernie sanders?

>>4565159

>>4565362
kek

bros so mad itt :)

>>4565695
This might be the worst drawing in this entire thread. Just look at that hairline, ffs. Your sense of edge control is abysmal. There is absolutely no cohesiveness to anything you've drawn - it's like you're drawing every feature completely separate from one another instead of working on one, cohesive drawing.

No one's "mad" at you for making a bad drawing. I promise that no one here cares about you or your shitty work. Whether or not you change up your workflow is completely up to you, because whatever you're doing now is definitely not working.

>>4565738
you sound super mad bro, hows your work coming along? :)

>>4565848
Great polish on that dogshit anon!
Honestly do you look at this and not see how disfigured she is?

>>4565848
>>4565695

>>4565973
Everyone starts from 0 bro no reason to shit on him for it.
Shit on his awful drawings instead.

havent been here in a while

Working on this right now, some critique? Don’t know where to go next, maybe render the clothes a bit more

mess

>>4565848
>10 years for this
Y I K E S

x-post from towergrills thread. heres a dayelf wip

>>4562418 sameposter
did that yesterday

>>4562552
pretty good, although somehting looks off with the womans head, and her eyes... might want to try zooming out/flipping the canvas and you'll catch it

>>4560657
awesome hair & angle. where do u post?

>>4559427
the hair is making the head look flat. look up some tutorials. nice ambitious lighting tho. also the ear looks bizzare af. good start good start

First post here, spent 3h in this exercise. I'm trying to get better shading, any feedback is welcome. Done mostly with 4B and 6B.
And yeah, proportions are a bit off.

>>4566708
Here you go.

https://twitter.com/WhiteBox_Studio

>>4567090
It looks like you're drawing rather small. I understand that it might seem easier that way, but it's hard to draw accurately on such a small scale because if anything is even just slightly off it will change the appearance of the whole image. You have more leeway on a larger drawing. Drawing so small also automatically makes your rendering look rougher because the texture of the paper looks bigger and more notable on the figure.

Consider doing some studies of hands in different positions and from different angles next. Look up some methods for constructing hands. Try to understand their structure.

>>4566433

>>4568366
nice work - but some element can't be read well.... like the wings, many parts are "hard" to read.
Anyway nice pic :3

WIP

>>4560128
Updayyyyte