/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

go fuck yourself

Yikes

>>4519973
ugh.

>>4519973
>waaah noone understands meeee

>>4519984
>>4519978
>>4519976
Big cope.

>>4519973
Asian genes.

>>4519988
>You must be 18 years or older to access this site.

>>4519973
soul vs souless

>>4519973
You know what, you're right. I need to start developing backgrounds and scenes for my pieces that combine with my characters in a way that works and also tells a story. Thank you for posting this, you've given me another opportunity to improve my work.

>>4519973
> You’re not done. All you did was some concept. Now put that character in a scene...

Do you consider Feng Zhu to be an artist? Also pyw I'm interested in the paper behind this neutronium

>>4520004
Good lad

>>4519973
Who's the first artist

>>4519973
So much story bro!

Only fujos do le story trash because they can't draw coomer bodies

>>4519976

>>4520034
skyfire

>>4519973
Art is dead.

>>4520048
If your not exploiting mentally challenged teenagers your NGMI

>>4520048
Based and blackpilled

Very story much perspective

>>4520004
Fuck.
I take that back.
Westerners are full of soul.
It’s ok to have half a character on a white background.
Please don’t improve :(

>>4520069
AHHHHHHHH

>>4520048
Based

>>4520048
>making thousands of dollars from exploiting mentally challenged teenagers
this hurts the sakimi

>go to pixiv
>one bajillion poorly drawn anime girls on white background

ok

>>4519973
>>4519990
>>4519993
>>4520000
>>4520048
Jesus you guys are seething pretty hard.

>>4520096
Got these directly from Instagram mate. They were right next to each other in the featured section.
I’m sure if there was a western version of PixIV, it wouldn’t be any different. But it’s funny that I have to really dig deep to find something that isn’t a generic concept art on Artstation or DeviantArt but I only need to spend a couple seconds to find something with story.
You just can’t accept the fact that asians will always be superior to you which is why you need to greentext like a fag.

>>4520106
Jesus you are [coping] pretty hard.

>>4520108
>>>/r/asianmasculinity
Shitposting on /ic/ won't make your peepe any bigger, chang.

>>4520106
>meltdown

>>4520112
>worried about penis size
It’s amazing that the topic of penis sizes are never brought up unless it is to cope with your inferiority complex.

>Another nigger IQ bait thread

>>4519973
You are honestly pathetic for making this thread

>>4520106
All that everyone does is fucking seeth on this board

>>4520132
Why anime shitters are so racist?

>>4519973
I get what you're saying my dude.

>>4520121
sorry, I don't speak ching chong cope, go eat some dog meat, lao

>>4520149
nigger

>>4520048
Very based.
>>4519973
Very cringe.

>>4519973
Bait but I'll bite because some other teenager on this board could use this. You're already looking at two different kinds of art. Story Art and Character Art. Character art does not need backgrounds because the point of it is to explore a character's design, personality, gestures, etc. Pic related. All of these characters drawn by a Japanese artist are character art, and all where on white backgrounds by themselves. Do they need backgrounds? Is one illustration with a background objectively inferior to a series of illustrations formed into a comic just because it has less "story"? Is a product design splash with perspective and rendering better than a story illustration with perspective but flat colors? You just have a certain taste for more narrative-based work/story and concept art, grow up and realize your preferences don't make any style you don't like objectively worse art.

Also who the fuck cares about Instagram likes? If you have better engagement and a higher volume of followers the algorithm makes your works automatically seen my more people, meaning two people with the same amount of skill but different follower counts and posting habits will get a different number of likes no matter what. If you rely on Instagram solely for income then you should care but any professional making a living with art should not be using one social media to gather a following anyways.

>>4519973
>Cherry picking, the post

Stop opening dumb bait threads, retard.

>>4520163
Yikes

>>4520108

>>4520182
Um excuse me? This is toxic please leave!

>>4520210
Cope

>>4520149
because people who watch anime have no personality so they have to compensate with being extreme

>>4520166
>realize your preferences don't make any style you don't like objectively worse art.
>preferences
>objective
anon, do you realize that these don’t even make any sense together?
one is objectively better than the other and preference has nothing to do with why that is

>>4520108
>find something with story

It's a woman riding a bike with high-heels

It's not that deep fren

>>4519973
>>4519991

>asians can't be NGMIS
>meanwhile mr pic related has been drawing for five years

AJAHAHAJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/9250984/artworks

>>4520197
Someone please edit this with AndrewCockroach lmao. It would fit so well, pic related is him by the way.

https://www.instagram.com/andrewcockroach/

>>4520235
SOUL

meanwhile average whitey from /ic/ only draws bodyless loomis heads or stiff "anatomy studies" on his 5th year.

>>4520228
nice strawman
>>4520235
can you draw better?
lets see, pyw, buddy

>>4520241
Here, done.

>>4520248
I've only been drawing for about 1 and a half years so it wouldn't be a fair comparison, but I could maybe try drawing something similar later today.

>>4520235
That looks full of soul dude
Not memeing

>>4520235
still has story and composition though. this witch is clearly about to piss herself

>>4520227
>>4520227
I don't have more pieces from either artist to reference but both appear to be in intermediate/higher levels of skill. At their levels, they can both make a living in entertainment design and deciding which is "objectively" better or worse becomes an argument of preferences/nitpicking what techniques and artist did or did not utilize. What makes one piece more successful than the other? How are the rendering techniques fulfilling the goal of the artist in each piece? Does it even matter when they're both just fine pieces for what they are and there's no good reason to be comparing the two besides trying to bait a comparison of Western and Japanese artists?

>>4520261
>nitpicking
is that what you’re strawmanning it to?
fuck off

>>4519973
This is cherrypicked and isn't really a fair comparison since i've seen a lot of eastern artists draw white backgrounds or none
>Composition, yes
>Vehicle, yes
>tells a story, yes.

This artist is from Spain. Please at least be fair when making a comparison next time, otherwise it looks like you're trying to fit a narrative

>>4519973
source of both?

>>4520278
That isnt anime, it looks too cartoony.

>>4520004
here’s an example of one of the few GMIs on this entire board

>>4520278
So the problem is actually americans, not white people

>>4520289
Who fucking cares, my image met OP's criteria that he had listed, therefore I proved his point, so it doesn't matter.

>>4520295
EU Countries have average higher IQ than America so maybe?

>>4520048
fuuuck

>>4520295
>the problem is actually americans?
Yes. They've poisoned everything.

>>4520278
Perspective is off

>>4520278
you didn’t read my post, reread then spew your ignorant shit
>Obviously I don’t mean all westerners
>both were taken from Instagram
>both were literally right next to each other in the featured section
>both had 7,000 likes

>>4520276
No, nitpicking would be pointing out the awkward ellipses in the top image or the lack of volumetric form in the hair of the bottom. OP doesn't even seem capable of seeing those small differences. All the studf he stated was on the level of "this one has composition, the lower one doesn't", that's not even an educated assement of either piece (all pieces have composition, even if not well done).

>>4520313
>amerilards
what fucking cringe is this?

>>4520396
>all pieces have composition
this is the same as saying everything is art when it’s not
something isn’t art unless it is done deliberately and with skill

>>4520166
>>4520261
These posts contain enough information to conclude the thread.
Print them out OP and read them before bed.

>>4520276
>>4520227
You're either not trying to understand the other person or you're a lukewarm temperature IQ nigger. Either option renders any attempt at conversation pointless.

>>4520405
>nigger
opinion discarded

>>4520414
nigger detected

>>4519973
If /las/ could do anything like the bottom. I would be more than happy to look at their art.

>>4520385
Your posted image is still cherrypicked, but keep deflecting you cum guzzling bait posting retard.

>>4519973
After seeing this image I am clearly convinced that Asians perceive the world differently that lets them make much more superior art than their contemporaries in the west. This is a scientific fact.

>>4520455
>cum guzzling
pornfag detected

>>4520484
OP detected :^)

>>4520483
Based

>>4519973
>cherry picking and anecdotal evidence
Two components that make up the modern murishart

>>4519973
What I've found is that artists in general have the following tiers of complexity in their work according to their nationality:
Russians>Chinese>Japanese>European>Canadian>American>rest of the world

>>4520855
fuck you im canadian

Art is taken nowadays more seriously in the East than in the west.

ooh shit mfloaw hahaha, DAMN you can see the different?

>>4520857
Then kill yourself

>traditional artists eternally BTFO

>>4520884
what are you, coping?

>>4520855
I've never seen a Canadian artist.
Maybe they pretended to be American.

kim jung gi is some kind of creature from the out limits that is the only explanation

>>4520892
Canadian art style in general is pretty much the same than american except with a slightly higher complexity in terms of rendering

>>4520890
Have sex

>>4520910
I would say they complex in other ways but simple on other

>>4519973
Souless vs soul

>>4519973
If you could draw one thing and make the same amount of money as if you drew 50 things. Which one would you do?

>>4519973
>Asians
>Westerners
What does Westerner mean in this context?

>>4520951

>>4520951
Faggots, basically

>>4520948
You’re right.
This is the problem with today’s art community. (Though it even extends beyond art as well.)
Why would you draw something with a story and soul when you can draw foot fetish porn and make a living off patreon doing it?

>>4520295
Black people can do anime pretty well

>>4520069
>she sees your dick

>>4520299
>EU Countries have average higher IQ than America
Nah.

>>4521453
It’s honestly just Eurofags trying to cope with the fact that they’ll never be better than asians so they’re trying their best to at least be 3rd place.

>>4519973
I agree but trying to divide it into westerners and asians is stupid. even the soul vs soulless meme is better than that.

>>4519973
American artists can't add anymore to the sexy woman drawing they do, because they weary of the trannies that will cancel them

Just look at this shit
reddit.com/r/mendrawingwomen/

>>4521517
>bitching about shitty composition
>bitching about shitty coomer poses
>bitching about shitty anatomy
>mostly posting normie memes making fun of coomtards
this board doesn't seem too different

>>4520163
cringey teenlet lmfao

>>4519973
I think both are pretty ok anon, sorry but i don't get your point, you're just mad cuz one had background and the other doesn't, wich is stupid. Anyways, stop being a stupid bitch and go draw if you wanna make it.

>>4520422
wdym, there are plenty of lassos that could draw a better samus pinup

>instagram

Retard, most japs use twitter so the top image probably has more engagement there

Behold...the power of jap art...

This guy is probably a millionaire btw

>>4521679
yeah but opm is entertaining

>>4519973
not all art has to have all that shit anon, sometimes you just want to do fanart

>>4519973
didn't ask

>>4520149
What about it? racism is good

>>4519973
Who drew the Samus?

>>4519973
Whats the story in the first image. Just looks like a soulless anime girl on a bike.

>>4520166
based

>>4522351
Looks pretty good to me. Also post some of your work, show some of your floating loomis heads and your other „studies“ lmao.
Also people who have taken seriously less than three years have no right to criticize others

>>4520149
Sexual frustration and no friends

>>4520235
Looks good to me. This guy obviously has passion for drawing and the spark. Also his drawings come from imagination which is something that the average crab poster can’t claim

>>4519973
how do I draw the smug cunny look??

>>4522756
Not him but you dodged the question.
Where's the fucking story you weebfag?

>>4522770
If you have to ask you’re too dumb to understand. Not everyone can have high IQ and natural born talent

>>4519973
who drew that samus? both pieces look great

>>4520876
This was made by an ai.

>>4519973
both are trash