/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4494012
>DFC on the front page
Yeah, I'm thinking based.

>>4494012

You're not a beginner. You clearly have talent.

oh wait a minute that work looks like dochi.

>>4494024
Oh yeah then where's the other hand?

>>4494035

Hidden because dochi can't draw arms.

>>4494023
>DFC
The distinguished flying cross?

>>4494012
/beg/s will claim this is good

>>4494049
Post your work.

>>4494049
jealous of his talent

any other newbies wanna friend me on discord? we can check each other's art out and maybe draw on a shared canvas?

my user is Orinwulf#0441

>>4494057
>we can check each other's art out and maybe draw on a shared canvas?
l-lewd

>>4494049
Kek

>>4494049
Start pointing the flaws my dear faggotte. The class is waiting

>>4494090
I'm on mobile but here you seething tard

>>4494098
I mean, without pointing whats wrong people will never improve. So thanks for your input, fag

>>4494098
nice random circles

>>4494108
Yeah they're definitely random to /beg/s who don't understand the errors highlighted. I'm not going to talk about this piece more because that anon is on the right track at least. Think in 3d and dont hide things.

>>4494098
not that anon, but you have to fix it or at least explain. you can't just draw circles lol

>>4494098
>>4494112
Is there a single redliner who can at least draw a circle

>>4494117
yeah i'm going to plug in my whatever it's called for you

such talented many beginnings

>>4494098
>>4494111
bait of excellent quality

>>4494112
>>4494117
>>4494119
>>4494120
>>4494121
Go draw you dumb retards

>>4494098
>>4494112
>>4494120
Absolute state of /beg/ redliners.

What the fuck how do I measure head land marks? The line on the right says it's cut in half but the red lines beside it prove it's not.

>>4494125
go draw you dumb retard

>>4493546
Reposting the book
https://mega.nz/file/Yxo3mKTI#SUlFSR4fqVkSW2gkCC0jLAQaDPgGzLg-mVN8LS_WkCM

>>4494125
I'm clearly pointing out his inability to draw form all the way through but he won't do it because he prefers to draw from the gut rather than through the object. That's why a lot of his stuff looks flat.

how do I draw lightning
or anything for that matter

>>4494120
You didn’t even redline it properly...retards like you are why redliners are given a bad name.

>>4494141
I got things to do. This is my last day of quarantine.

>>4494144
and yet here you are shitposting instead

>>4494151

I'm on break. Break is almost over though.

>half the thread seething over their prize collection being made fun of

UGHHHH BRING BACK MEME OP'S

>Drew a nude woman breastfeeding a child for some reason
>Came out to be one of the best drawing I ever made in terms of technique
>Can't post it anywhere because I'm against coomer art
Why does it have to be this way

>>4494199
You seem retarded

>>4494199
tits always make things better
always

>>4494012
now yall can get back to work

>>4494209
/beg/s will claim this is fixed

>>4494209
okay hetero

back

>>4494139
for effects the rule is:
>look at how somebody else did it
>steal

>>4494139
Watch this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVfhrgcM1Pc

>>4494212
I claim this is fixed, now get the fuck out of my thread and take these other people with you.

>>4494234
Talkin’ mighty big there for a beginner. Best you know where you belong before I remind you.

>>4494232
>sycra
Christ, I used to follow his anatomy instructions. looking back, I don't know what I was thinking

>>4494238
Where do I belong? In /beg/? Seem to me like you are the lost one then kid. Stop shitting up this thread.

>>4494243

Tsk, not worth my time.

>>4494238
>>4494234
B T F O

Don’t make this thread like /asg/.

>>4494254
Why what’s wrong, did /asg/ kick you out?

>>4494255
No, but that thread is always filled with derailing and retardation.

>>4494260

Well yeah, those threads aren’t worth posting to.

somebody make a new thread

Artist in the op here, thanks for the laugh guys :))

>>4494271
You’re welcome dochi :)

>>4494273
Follow me on twitter already :)

I think I'm starting to get doing faces, need to work on so many more things though.

>>4494287
>>4494273
>

why is there literally not a single resource telling you how to accurately replicate lines and shapes

>>4494287

I’m already following you (-:

>>4494318
betty edwards' book and keys to drawing are all that you need for that

>>4494023
Holy fuck Satania pleasee fuck me

>>4494344
Stop being creepy and do it properly

>>4494345
they aren't you faggot
it's all very well breaking something down into shapes but how do you reproduce the shapes accurately

>>4494012
This poor guy lol

>>4494352

There you go again calling me creepy *sobs*

>>4493751
>Your sphere is off. You can easily find where the line goes using perspective. Slice the sphere along the equator and bring your middle line through it to the back. Bisect the line in that little plane you've made and you'll find the middle of the side of your sphere. Just like finding the middle point in a cube, got it?
i don't really understand, can you give a visual example?

I should stop drawing asian chicks out of Pinterest

>>4494098
based sub zero iq retard

How do I keep my head in grinding and ignore the fact that my art is bad until it isn't?

>>4494398
Seething Scorpion

The smoke got fucked up when scanning

>>4494384
Niceeee

>>4494262
but is this thread worth posting to? that's the question

I could make a thread about all of my drawings but not now. camera bad. ultra beginner.

>>4494418
you really don't enjoy drawing?
you're never going to think your art is good. it's going to be a distant realisation that others think you're good, but i really don't think you're ever going to be satisfied if you're not already.

i've always enjoyed it.

>>4494511
I enjoy drawing. I just always look at the result and regret of not starting earlier. I just go on this big spiral of regretting my decisions for no reason.

Draw left. try to fix today. right happens, Why Worse.

I kinda like how this one turned out. I'll keep practicing to try to get better tho

>>4494527
i definitely get that. i feel that way sometimes.
might sound weird, but read about existentialism. in a roundabout way, the best way to live for the future is to live in the now. it might empower you a little.

but, to be honest, does it really matter all that much if you're 'bad'? there's something more interesting going on, which is your progression, the dialogue between you, your work, and idea. the end goal, or these little milestones--these are the least interesting parts. the act of drawing is what's good, i guess, and that's what you've got already and there's only more to come, so don't be upset.
you can think about what a past version of you is not experiencing, but that version is already dead. in a similar way the future version of you is dead also. it only makes sense to love the now.
hopefully that made sense, but usually i know i don't.

Nah, still not getting it kek. Oh well

>>4494567
I'll try and read up on it, thanks a lot. Very interesting to hear your thoughts.

>>4494349
From 1-10 how much do I need loomis?

>>4494199
please kill yourself you fucking retard

>>4494644
you always need loomis

>>4494644
10

>>4494648
woah

What should I study before learning figure drawing from Vilppu or Hampton?

I'm trying to draw from my imagination, but I don't really know what I should draw (clothes, pose, etc).
Furthermore, I'm not sure if I'm at a level where I can manage drawing from imagination...

>>4494693
Do some drawabox

>>4494693
Honestly Hampton's figure drawing design and invention book is as good as any place to start. Though it might help to do a bit of Scott Roberton's perspective book beforehand, just so you can draw basic 3D shapes in perspective. That Hampton book follows what I think a new artist should care about, and goes nicely into detail about anatomy for every body part.

>>4494718
>>4494768
Do I need to understand anything besides observation and basic forms?

what do you guys think about my piece of armor?

More than critic, this is a question.
I'm not good at anatomy at all which is why I tried learning other styles more fit for my lack of skill.
Should I be ashamed or feel bad for relying in 3d models and still using "heads tall" for measure and guides while drawing?

>>4494806
Nobody cares about anything but the end result.

thoughts? thinking of changing the hair or at least the part

>>4494537
Post ref

>>4494806
the head on that 3d model looks a bit big...
Why not use real photos?

>>4494817
It certainly is. I'm going for a bit cartoony style. Realism isn't for me sadly.

>>4494819
learn the right proportions, that will help you exaggerate any body part without making it look weird.

It will help you in the long run refine whatever style you're aiming

>>4494812
Nice, anon!
Just wanted to suggest that the supporting left arm's elbow looks a bit jagged, and would look much better if it was smooth.

>>4494829
thank you :)
heres the ref btw

Some WIP

>>4494648
Loomis is a meme

>>4494812
>>4494858
Dilate tranny.

>>4494812
this is my latest finished piece

>>4494567
very nice thoughts. existentialism is fucking dope, it's the closest school of thought that explains the nature of reality to me
>>4494570
anon i'm absolutely /beg/ but isn't her hair supposed to grow out of a hairline around her nape/neck or something? her hair is growing out of the left side of her jaw

>>4494953
Was supposed to be shadows since it was dark in that corner. I don't know what I'm doing.

>>4494012
My inking brush makes the same jagged line. Is it intentional ? How do I fix it ?

>>4495002
It's called pixels. Work on a higher res

Doing feature studies but the only one I'm happy with is the nose.
>huuurrrr draw the whole head don't just do eye studies
Fuck this shitty advice I see in places.

>>4494816
aww fuck, I think you solved my problem, I didn't bother hunting up the ref the 2nd time round.

Last one for the night. I'm wondering whether this venture is worth it.

I'm looking at models and trying to kinda "convert" them into these drawings. I'm really trying to grab key placements and orientations and proportions and then trying to work from there.

So much trial and error with this stuff though, I am kinda figuring out the eyes, but clearly everything else needs work, and the eyes are only now sub-par at best versus the garbage from last week. What an adventure, it's fun.

i wasted hours I could have spent on sleep on arguing online

>>4495079
Stick around on 4chan long enough and eventually you'll realize the futility of it all.

>>4495027
Thanks ! Dude :)

>>4494784
For Hampton? Absolutely not. Observation and basic forms is all you need. I don't know why Hampton isn't recommended more, I think he's a much better (figure drawing) starting point than Loomis. This is not at all to say Loomis is bad, but his information is spread out over multiple books, rather than condensed into one simple, encompassing book.

>>4495080
Ye been lurking for years on 4 and never argued but posted on plebbit and it triggerd me reeee.

Im being immature but

You know the meme if they have the last word you lose

Would love some advice to improve

Back to basics. If only I knew how to read I could read loomis.

3 years, the mad man

>>4495095
face looks slapped on top of decent drawing.
belly thing seems too high

>>4495130
was it suggestion to all /beg/ to abandon drawing forever?

Am I degenerate?

>>4495075
Look at the line between her cheekbone and chin, can you see anything wrong with it?

>>4495130
You never see this sort of progress with western artists.

>>4494120
what is wrong with her belt area?

>>4495174
does the pope shit in the woods?

I'm trying to draw with procreate on ipad but it feels very weird.
btw i'm not good with paper either

>>4495098
This looks nice, i like it. Can you share a finished work?

>>4495198
He ... doesn’t! Woohoo! I’m okay! I’m OK! Now I just need to learn to draw.

What do you think of my shoes /beg/?

>>4495209
Resize it and mirror it horizontally. Behind the veil of familiarity is a hidden ugliness, the creator of which cannot normally see.

>>4495209
*extends right hand towards your feet*
WHAT ARE THOSE

>>4495202
From a couple weeks ago.

>>4494012
disregard those brain-dead apes, OP, you're actually doing fantastic for a /beg/. better than 92.67% of /ic/.
however i've noticed some flaws, mainly in the torso. it lacks form and kinda look like a flat plank and also the right arm is disconnected from the body.
remember to always keep in mind and sketchout the 3d form of the body when designing a pose
here´s an actual attempt at a redline btw

>>4495284
neck sized biceps on slim trap.
just cant get rid of all this ingrained anatomy

>>4495290
Posted in the other thread. Posting here too just so it's registered.

>>4495284
Thanks, I can see the problem well now. >>4495194 I think he was pointing out the slant on the belt but that was on purpose

>>4495209

that's what I call ugly feet.

>>4495284
blog?

Think I improved the eyes. It really is more of a design problem than a drawing one. Next up making mouths look good.

>>4495309
And I just realized I got my first redline ever. I didn't expect it to be so helpful.

>>4495333
Though maybe this one is okay too... I dunno. It's a struggle.

Thoughts so far?

>>4495369
torso lost a lot of width in your drawing

>>4495369
Back to /asg/

>>4495380
Ah shit i forgot to remove the name from the other shitpost

i hope the instructions in the sticky work. the last time I drawed anything was 11 years ago, when I stopped because everything I draw looks like shit

>>4495380
>NOOO! NOT THE CHINESE CARTOONS!

>>4495047
I don't really know what I'm doing either so I tried my hand at it as well.
I think you're thinking too much about the line/contour, it's harder with the eyes and I can't really pull it of either, but try thinking more about the forms and surrounding planes like with the nose.
Same with the mouth, planes and forms.
I actually like your nose in this one.
Try downloading Hustons head drawing course in the video course thread, he approaches the features in a structure/ form study way.
If nothing else it will give you some direction.

>constant erase marks
>looks nothing like the orginal
is this a sign of low iq brainletism ngmi?

>>4495522
its called learning anon

>>4495522
what are you stuidying

>>4495545
https://dl.epdf.pub/download/dynamic-figure-drawing.html?hash=4158b5b443d5313d3e4dcf34421110b1&captcha=7d47af78916b6e56ef23e2cb9e5b317d

>tfw can't draw a nice circle
>can't draw ovals without them looking fucked up
I've been using the ellipse tool as a crutch, along with just copypasting the lines to keep them completely parallel, just to even do this.

>>4495573
>>4495522
>imagine thinking you'll aim like a pro gamer that has been using aiming simulators since he was a child, in your first week of drawing

>>4495586
>first week
Anon its been 8 months...

>>4495599

>>4495599
Anon.. I...

>>4495602
>>4495604

>>4494012
I'm finding it difficult to use fine-tip pens (Pilot Razor Point) on sketchbooks (Swathmore). Is this normal? I've heard that fine tip pens don't work well on graphite/charcoal paper.
I'd like to know how much of a dumbass I'm being, or if I'm just imagining things.

Is it improving?

>>4495473
Hey I love your face it's hilarious. Yeah I've been naturally moving towards drawing more of the surrounding area as well.

1st attempt at realism criticism appreciated

>>4495669
Loomis.

>>4495669
not to be an asshole anon but like. idk why you even came here with that. that's nowhere NEAR realism. you're symbol drawing everything and using lines instead of trying to define form. on top of that the drawing is way too small. loomis

>>4495669
yep.

>>4495669
did you draw from reference? this seems very stylized for an attempt at realism

>>4495369
you should try to be more confident with your lines, you seem very hesiant to give her legs that match the character

>>4495669

>>4495599
well iso should give you that added time to refine

>>4495669

>>4495573
Why not practice circles and lines with pen and paper? Seems like you're trying to skip steps.

I've been nudging the details on this for a while now, so I know I won't get any further without some more input from you guys. What's the biggest issue? Are the colors and values better now?

The quest to find how hips work.

>>4495719
Her wig seems to be falling off.

>>4495719
Hue variations and color zones of the face.

>>4495720
>Her wig seems to be falling off.
Not sure what to do with that, I'm even showing her scalp, so where do I need to work it in?

>>4495095
move belly button over, move mouth down, clean up the lines & color & obviously the hand.

>>4495725
Damn, even more? I went for the top yellow mid red bottom blue variation with colder colors in the shadow. I tried to push that more but it starts to look like shit (probably since I don't know how to adjust the values for those colors to shine)

>>4495130
>people can't lie on the internet
>around 10 drawings in 3 years posted

>>4495727
The scalp is the problem, the scalp has a mass of its own for some reason, and it's not following the head, but pointing towards the camera. It's very off putting.

As much as I like life drawing, and use reference pics for other projects. Is there any tutorials on drawing without reference or construction? I guess from imagination

>>4495738
I've been starin at this thing for too long but I think I get what you mean something like this maybe? Also thanks for the help.

>>4495669
It's not realistic.

>>4495748
Grab the hair, move it some to the left

>>4495719
I'm a graphic designer not a painter but shadows are not black. You need to read Gurney's Color and Light book.

>>4495766
shadows are black. It is light is not black

>>4495769
Shut the fuck up.

>>4495669
Anon I think you just single handedly created the OP for the next thread, arguably a new meme even. Good job, in a positive way.

>>4495690
my sides

>>4495766
Where did I use black shadows?
>>4495769
I have no idea what that means.
>>4495762
Honestly this just feels like a different hairtype instead of "more correct", but you probably understand this way better than I do.

>>4495788
It's much better, it's just your brain can't see it that way, or you wouldn't have made it wrong in the first place.

Just polish the hair a little, and you'll get it more to where you see it works.

>>4495792
Thanks a lot. You are probably right, it gets hard to see issues after working on something for a while and I'm not good with hair to begin with.

hi anons im doing vilpuu, is this how im suposed to do it?

beg painter here, struggling to learn about values and shit. I was watching a beginner video challenge where you paint a portrait without changing brush size and only using like 3 values. Am I on the right track?
Reference on right

>>4494537
you are drawing what you think a face should look like instead of what it does. Start studying the proportions of how it is laid out and the size of each part of the face instead of thinking "yeah an eye goes here abouts"

>>4495788
>Where did I use black shadows?

Everywhere.

>>4494537
>potion seller, I am going into battle and I want your strongest potions

>>4495804
Pretty good. No rules just tools. But focus more on the gesture not the form. Outline less.

why is construction so difficult?

Why does my art look like it has no depth and how do I fix that?

>>4495844
Gotta get your noob gains, just being able to place lines is too hard for our brains.

>>4495812
>>4495788
Never painted before but I tried to fix your black shadows and level correction.

>>4495844
Because you don't know what you're constructing.

>>4495870
are you saying i am mindlessly copying?

>>4495669
Hey man, you got a lot of responses but nothing that's actually helpful.
Your drawing is pretty basic and the most important thing for you atm is to just get more drawing experience.
Then you should consider reading some beginner books like "keys to drawing" or "drawing on the right side of the brain"
But that should be secondary to just drawing more in general.
Also ditch the lined paper it can throw you off.

>>4495841
got it, thanks, I feel like the book goes through anatomy too quickly though

i used to draw during all my childhood with pen & paper, stopped for many many years, and decided to try getting back to it with an old small banboo tablet.

i started like 2 days ago.

got a few questions and im gonna post a few of my first drawing ive done yesterday, but captcha might make me go nuts.

>>4495914

how do you color your drawing to get a soft skin look.

i tried using soft brushes but it tends to go over my black lines (eyes, eyebrow and stuff).
is there a good coloring tutorial somewhere i could use?

>>4495860
Oh I missed the shadow under the nose but you get the idea.

>>4495916
did that last night late, without any model.

i also need to find a proper tutorial for proportion since it's always been the worst for me.

didnt matter how good my pen & paper drawing were, i always ended up with a thigh too short or long or fat or skinny, same with arms.

>>4494129
Apply to reference maybe

>>4495875
All construction fags are mindlessly copying. Good artists got good by using their own brains not having someone else's analysis fed to them through a straw.

>>4495875
The only exception to being fed someone else's analysis is the Bargue Drawing Course. But that's because it teaches you how to analyse.

>>4494692
I know Kung fu

>>4495931
The eyes you draw are always too big Asuka senpai

>>4495670
Pain edition

>>4495669
> soul

>>4495916
>>4495914
>>4495919
First start by ditching the white background, it blinds you to values. use something like 20-30% into darkness. If your lines are in the way then put your lines on a transparent layer above the coloring layer so the two are separate.

Next look the topic up Youtube there are many "how to paint skin" tutorials up there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXQvDWvCNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPdkEEYo3F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFY91Yp7Tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l3uyUlu3dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF05uz5fd90

>>4495931
>>4495943
Is Asukafag secretly Proko trolling /ic/?

>>4495931
aside from the size, those eyes don't seem like they are fitting correctly in the the head (it's easier to notice in the thumbnail)

>>4495968
Yes

>>4495968
No

>>4495986
Shut up AsuProkoFag I know it's you

im trying to get better at shading, where can i go from here?

>>4495174
a female anthro with a human male? you are fine

>>4495931
why are your drawings always the same? you kept getting crits and you wipe your ass with them and dont fix any of your issues. why is ic putting up with you?

>>4495995
You have to learn to draw before you have something to shade.

>>4495931
Do me a favor dude, burn your face reference folder for me, and go find some aesthetic faces and copy that.

AHHHH IVE BEEN READING THIS BOOK FOR 5 HOURS MY HEADD

>>4496017
He won't, people have been telling him to draw different faces for months and he says that he just likes it this way.

>>4496013
sorry anon I am not very intelligent I try my best
>>4496025
no I didn't say that I just cannot see the flaws oftentimes until someone doesn't do a redline

>>4495931
I cant watch this anymore. It's like seeing someone's slow descent into madness.

Wrong

>>4495955
thanks a lot man, gonna save all thos links
and the layer idea is great

>>4494139
Oh my god is the cute otter. Keep it up anon!

havent done gestures in forever. sort of trying to improve line efficiency and quality not really working out very well.

>>4494049
t. Talentlet

>>4495174
You’re patrician

>>4495174
Im gonna coom

>>4494565
This is pretty good anon but you might as well could have drawn Hitler if you were going to do a racist like Pew Die Pie

>>4494644
It seems you're not having much fun with pencils

>>4496137
keep it up lad they're the sort of thing that pay dividends from doing regularly, ideally daily

>>4495174
>>4496152
>>4496157
Samefagging ... fag.

>>4496028
Bruh you don't need a redline. You should just see that your faces are ugly even if you don't know how to fix them. Thus you should be experimenting with new things to fix them instead of doing *the exact same thing every time*. If you can't even do that much then I don't know what to say.

>>4496175
>everyone who shares an opinion is the same person
Rent free

>>4496037
Can you give me a quick rundown on this thing?

>>4496208
If the art is that unclear (I draw small and blurry, it's a problem): it's an anthro raccoon woman holding a plunger and commenting on it.
Is the question is "why"? I've done a bunch of drawings of this raccoon girl, who is the "slave" of a teenage boy, however the shtick is that while she thirsts to be a sex slave they never actually bang, as he's not a furry.

i've recently moved to digital drawing for a few days now but i havent been completing any artworks... any advice? i first posted this in the stupid questions thread lol

>>4495931
At least they notice you and even have a name for you. It means you’re doing something right! I’d suggest you work outside your comfort zone. Your pictures and subject matter are all very same-y, so you’re not really learning anything right now. You have some decent basics down, but due to the limited paces you’re putting them through you’re not really solidifying that knowledge. Some different poses, perspectives, and characters will help shore things up.

>>4496253
>they never actually bang
Fix this immediately

>>4496022
Haha imagine spending that much time reading instead of drawing

>>4494012
what's the best book to go through for beginners? I'm super ADHD. Please help :(

>>4496257
lol do you want advice on how motivate yourself to finish your works? Or advice on why you should go back to traditional?

>>4496341
Have you read the sticky?

>>4496353
what's a sticky?

>>4495851
Because you have no idea on how to replicate depth. Use reference.

>>4496316
>Fix this immediately
That WOULD be degenerate. And it would get me banned. HARD. Also it ruins the joke.

>>4496360
it's already degenerate

>>4496353
yes the books on there are too complicated

>>4494644
Why are you asking me?

>>4496163
he's putting them in the wrong place

>>4496346
def. the first one, i guess im just not used to the medium yet, but im already preferring digital art. here's a terrible tomie art

I have a proportion problem when copying. I think I'm drawing everything at the right distance, but when I finish I notice most stuff is larger/smaller than it should be, which means hands usually are huge and bodies are small, for example. Is this something I'll just get better at with practice or should I aim for specific training?

>>4496373
It’s definitely a versatile option. A bit of advice, don’t try to recreate whatever workflow you had with traditional material. Be willing to try different brushes and orders of doing things. You might find something that works better for you.

>>4496373
if this is digital, trace over the tomie reference and compare.

>>4496380
oh dam.... i will keep that in mind. thanks

>>4496381
here's one with the reference i used

>>4496390
i forgot the picture wow

>>4496339
Anon.. what do I do then..?

How the absolute fuck are a and b the same color

>>4496409
hoyl fucking shit it is

>>4496392
i'm telling you to do it. i think it's a good habit.
trace over the reference picture on a new layer, make the reference picture invisible, and compare the lines.

>>4496409
Color is relative to its surrounding environment, it is an illusion created which is fundamental for you to understand that you will identify lighter/darker tones based on its surrounding. You may brighten or darken hues by simply brightening or darken the shade of its surrounding background.

>>4496401
Well fren there's only so much reading you can do before you start putting what you've read into practice. It doesn't magically translate you need to practice.

>>4496433
what should I practice, quick poses and try to draw em perfectly?

I tried drawing a cute girl from imagination but it ended up looking like a man. What went wrong?

>>4496420
hmmm, i guess i feel a bit better with my linework. but what is this supposed to tell me? sorry, brainlet here

>>4496448
Stop drawing trannies

Here:I drew this for a day and I fucked it up.
I have no idea how pencil shading and hair lining works soo please give me some advice to improve my art skills.

>>4496452
anon, i'm saying to do it with tomie. then to compare with >>4496392
you'll see the differences yourself.

These couple threads made me question sanity and perception. Like people who do it really see something nice or amazing and put lot of work in it when in reality it some twisted thing. Like how you know. You spend lot of time on a thing but in reality it totally broken. and no mirror will not help.

picture not related but maybe it is. But it not something planed, I was trying to tackle this freaking "head from the bottom" thing and then turn it in to some nonsense. and it was goofy all the way. But with shading it almost works but maybe it exactly this perception thing turned on me eventually.

>>4496491
Learn English

>>4496448
Maybe this is about what you really want from a cute girl ... her penis.

>>4494012
Blog?

My stuff always looks better to me when I’m high. Now that I’m sober I realize it’s shit.

>>4496491
This is me everyday lad. Trying this new style where I use ink instead has made me be unable to hide things with shading and lighting and now I suffer.

>>4496470
Her brow protrudes way too much
Memorize the shape of a female head before working on other things

>>4496448
Just post the reference already, I'm in a mood for fapping to trannies anyway

>>4496626
they said it was from imagination you retard

>>4496491
That's a lot of text for trying to make up for your lack of talent

>>4496631
Shut up faggot trannies are real they're not product of imagination

>>4496603
I will.
Thanks for the advice anon.

>>4496603
Find an attractive woman IRL and stare at her. Really intense and creepy like. Then when she asks “what the hell are you doing, freak?” You say “memorizing the structure of your face; it’s exquisite and needs to be the model for all women in my art.” This will make her way wet and then you bang her.
Or you get a face full of pepper spray. Still, 50/50 shot.

>>4496646
anon what the fuck are you talking about

>>4496646
Yes, but that specific one is.

>>4495369
Good taste, I love me some Nazi's

>>4494537
Did you write out all the specifics of what you had to fix, why they looked wrong in the first place, and specifically what to do to fix them? Otherwise you just tried the same thing again without thinking.

>>4496649
You don't have to memorize anything Anon unless you want to become insane. To pretend that something like eyebrows are linear and they all should look the same is wrong.

>>4496680
>To pretend that something like eyebrows are linear and they all should look the same is wrong.

Umm ok.

>>4495573
Then practice drawing lines and circles first. You need to start where you're weakest before going to the next thing that requires those skills.

>>4496680
>brow
>eyebrows
but it sounds stupid to learn an 'ideal female head' and use that as your base. lots of women have kinda heavy browbones, and they still look interesting, or attractive.
but if you had to stick with one head as a baseline, you should go with something more interesting than meme proportions, imo

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>>4496448
its the nose and the jaw. the jaw is way too angular/square/rectangle whateva and the nose is big and has that masculine nose bridge.if u fix that ur good to go. Probably

>>4496499
@vevesart

>>4496033
Where was you when his Asuka died of anorexia and he stopped drawing her

>>4494709
One way I get into the groove of drawing from imagination is to draw some fan-art of whomever/whatever and do my best to make it look interesting and/or unique. The process of changing or putting a "spin" on something is usually the energy you're trying to capture or recreate.
Most importantly it should be fun, since the goal is to express creativity, not sharpen skill. So don't worry about whether you can achieve the exact look.

>>4494318
Because that's one of the basic built in mechanism of your brain.