/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4465833
Mechanical pencil or pencil? and why?

Is it a good thing or a bad thing to get featured as thr OP pic

>>4465833
Some figure studies

>>4465882
goddayum whos teaching you this

>>4465869
cant find a 8b lead for a mechanical thats for sure

Doin hamnds form memory - long way to go in terms of progress, but feeling better about hands than I did a year ago.

>>4465916
don't chicken scratch so much, stop hiding them mistakes

>>4465920
Fair, I oughta time these to cull that.

>>4465932
If you're going fast it'll probably just make you more sloppy. I've never found that going fast really helped me anyway.
You can go as slow as you want to, but also you should not chicken scratch and clearly express what you want to draw.

I'm pretty bad at drawing but I found a technique to draw a meh body from imagination

Can I get away with not inking?

Cintiqbux when?

>>4465940
I’ve tried it ( mainly in figure drawing sessions where the prof mandated it) and it can be a mixed bag, but it does cut down on scratching. I’ll mix it up a bit, but I will make a concerted effort to single stroke it.

Can someone give me the top 10 shortcuts for Krita every digital artist should know?

>>4465943
one can in general
but not you

painters throughout history just didn't ink of course, there's not a single line in a painting by hubert robert

>>4465950
Dang. How do I paint vs drawing?

>>4465882
How did you learn to draw like this anon ? u_u

>>4465961
sinix might not be the best source but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ

also look at bucci https://www.youtube.com/user/marcobucci/videos

>>4465833
next time post the new threads OP number in the previous thread

>>4465882
Another one

>>4465943
It's called painting my dude

Going through Loomis, am i GMI?

How do I get over the mental hurdle of actually shading and finishing my drawings?
Once I finish the first rendition of the lineart I lose all will to continue to work on it even though there are things I know I need to fix or improve.
Pic very much related, that's about how far I get with most drawings before I lose interest even though I should work more on it.

>>4466017
I figured. I’m having trouble figuring it out. It’s a different approach.

>>4465941
Beside of chicken scratching. Take arms and make them straight in your mind. You should see what you fucked.

>>4466032
You want to do something? Just do it lol, go through mental pain and achiev what you want fag.

>>4466032
focus on fixing this stage first then

look at that ear or that hand, by god anon

inking makes mistakes clearer, which is maybe what's daunting to you

>>4466052
>inking makes mistakes clearer, which is maybe what's daunting to you

Yeah that's definitely one of the reasons.
I also don't really know how to fix that hand, I knew it was wonky from the moment I finished it but despite a few attempts I didn't really know how to approach it even though I kind of know what's wrong with it.

>>4466046
I suppose I should have expected this answer, you are right of course.

>>4466021
I fucking hate those smug faces

So, am I suppose to draw shit until it become good one day?

>>4466080
also you have to draw shit that you aren't comfortable with. you can grind the same shit for years and that would be a waste of time and effort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiISiEzEc6A

WHY THE FUCK AM I STUDYING PERSPECTIVE

THIS PROFESSIONAL LEVEL ARTIST LITERALLY IS CHEATING BY USING SOME PHOTOSHOP SHIT AND USING REFERENCES

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4465882
>>4466013
what type of pencil are you using?

>>4466092
>>4466088
ngmi
>>4466080
yeah you gotta draw and analyze your mistakes brochacho

>>4466088
because "cheating" while practicing makes you lazy even though it can be useful while actually drawing something

How can I make my colors more vibrant?

>>4466133

>>4466088
This>>4466106
In reality she can barely draw better than>>4466080
She just knows how to use the tools available to her.

For professional work there's no such thing as cheating except straight up art theft, and still only cheating if you get caught AND there's negative impact or loss of career based on said "cheat".

As for personal work, I'd feel dead inside if I wasn't trying to improve my skill, to each there own I guess.

>>4466092
Some random school Hb pencil I found

>>4465887
>>4465963
I don't exactly know what you mean but I look at a lot of krenz kusharts sketches and try to use his forms on my studies

Head from imagination is it good ?

>>4466160
Yes, keep going

>>4466160
gmi

sketch guys

>>4466254
1) that's not just a sketch you obviously put some time into it 2) study more torsos anon

>>4466032
Okay update, I tried to fix the hand, I think it's slightly better now but still fucked.
Does the shading make sense at all? I know parts of it clearly don't so I need to keep working.

>>4466256
A what point is it no longer a sketch?

>>4466256
sorry man I just said it so that people dont think that I consider this finished
then again I dont know how to move past this point
though this did take me 20 minutes

>>4466284
Start by cleaning those messy ass lines, don't be dumb.

>>4466271
that's going somewhere; it's not 10/10 good but it reads somewhat okay

watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw

>>4466274

mm i'd say at the point where it's obviously starting to get polished and not just used as an idea place

plenty of people call various things "doodles" and "sketches" when they're obviously putting in a whole lot of time and effort into polishing them as their own pieces, so they could appear effortless

>>4466284
dw, it's more about not lying to yourself; it's best to admit you're not moving beyond a point because then you know what your limit is

maybe you should also watch some marco bucci i linked, but also just draw more you're going somewhere, just trust the process

>>4466254
there is something very unnatural about the colors but I can't put my finger on it

>>4466160
theres a lot of mistakes the major ones are the jaw maxilar idk if that hows called, the ear is way too fucking in the back , the neck is either in a complete different angle or is her head clipping in to his neck and the mouth is a bit too high and the angle should be tilted a tad more down.also his jaw looks like a potato

now maybe this is just me but i swear that his head is in a complete different angle from his face or viceversa, the side of his head looks more like a view of the actual face but rotated more to the left and the top of his head it looks like is way more rotated counterclockwise than his face that's my impression.

how can i blend the colors on photoshop and also on csp ?

>>4466365
and here is also an another study i did someone on a previous thread told it's too foggy...

What is a good guide for drawing plants like trees
>lol go outside and look at trees
Cant leave house because of virus

>>4466426
drawabox + reference photos of trees

does anyone have any diagrams showing a gradual increase in fat around the body. I mainly need to know how fat distributes but have only found extremes like pic related

>>4466436
try the book it's taken from?

Any good car rendering tutorials? I'm pretty confident with my drawing and designs but I fucking suck at light and shadow and shiny materials.

>>4466254
>>4466254
Not your best dude. Proportions are all over the place. Left tit looks strange. Ass way too big compared to waist. Hands huge, left arm looks very strange. Rib cage looks bizarre. It's like you are copying and pasting from images of people from different perspectives.

>>4466133
I don't know but her head is way too small and her stubbly arm pit is disgusting.

Is this kind of grid drawing beneficial? should I do a pretty decent study with this method?

>>4466586
Yes and yes. Keys to Drawing isn't named such for nothing.
>>4466549
Scott Robertson's Youtube videos, anything from him really

there's a lot of problems with this one but the first one is i don't spend enough time planning and constructing the drawing at the beginning so the features are weirdly placed. time to work on that

after rewatching dead leaves, im filled with motivation again. how do i keep it?

>>4466636
intentionally drawing grotesque to cover up the holes in your knowledge so you can just call style isn't very cash money anon

>>4466645
back to redd*t newfag

thanks for the critiques on the previous one btw i alwys apretiate

>>4466604
>>4466586
I was told grid drawing was cheating and gave you no gains wtf

>>4466708
only if you want to be a copyfag

>>4466714
whats a copyfag

>>4466665
>>4466717

>>4466665

nice cope

Help me /ic/, i can only draw base on real life, i can't tap into my imagination no matter how hard i try and i can't determine my own art style

>>4466717
Some term a beginner that likes to give misadvice came up with.

>>4466741
>>4466720

>>4466737
My two recent sketch

>>4466743
grow up, teen.

>>4466737
>>4466744
resize, we're not going to look at a 12 megapixel image

I'm somewhat newfag but for me too grid copy seems redundant and as good as misaligned copy. like maybe you internalize some features maybe but you need ability to align them on a face not on detached grid. Maybe when they didn't have scanners it was beneficial and for self esteem.

>>4466619
bogged

>>4466708
it's not cheating, it helps you learn how to replicate/copy with accuracy

you're just not going to produce any of your own work with it

>>4466708
it isnt cheating unlike using references

>when it finally clicks and you genuinely feel the form for the first time
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4466780
You can grid anything lol it doesnt have to be someone elses work

>>4466825
and still wouldn't be is own work

woooo

i tried redoing the 2hu is it still as shitty as last time?

using grids is for when you can't copy with your eyes. if you can do it without a grid, do it without a grid.

Lil sketch, what do you guys think of his position?

>>4466830
No weird flashlight effect ver.

>>4466844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding

>>4466828
So if I grid something thats never been drawn then its still not my work?

I colored two smut sketches on abother board
Ignoring the fact that its porn can someone critique the coloring on both? Im new to shading and dont always get the light correct. Just let me know if there are glaring problems. Thanks guys

>>4466859
And 2 I opted for sharper lines

>>4466858
ctrl-c ctrl-v doesn't make an original work, it makes a copy of the original file oneechan

>>4466861
My b

>>4466863
Im gonna grid your mom

Short-stack drawing I did last week. What do you think anons?

More 30 second beans.

>>4466844
lights is done by painting lights and shadows from this source not by colored cones. It will be much more convincing.

experimenting with hatching.

experimenting with hatching.

>>4466902
Noice

has anyone here used eaton's course on portraiture?
i feel like his method for constructing the skull is flawed. it feels heavily inconsistent and doesnt really seem to make sense in three dimensions. maybe i should just keep going at it?

any tips on the colors?

Okay /ic/, I have created a plan for my coronavirus weekend since I don't have the distraction of work.
I'm taking advice from this post in the previous thread.
TL;DR:
1. simple still lives of apples, oranges, cylindrical objects. x5 (spend hour or two on each)
2. landscape studies, from images x5 (spend hour or two on each)
3. pick up books:
-anatomy for the artist
-charles bargue book of lithographs for drawing
-art models companion disks on amazon
print a bunch (or photoshop) and copy using a grid
4.do above steps and post, get critiqued, and rinse & repeat with different still lifes and models.

Does anyone have anything else to add to this?

rough loomis heads

When I'm studying values can I turn the reference image to grayscale? Do you recommend it?

First one inked.

Since there is no Porn thread, can I get critique of this one?

>>4467014
Pretty solid. Try to keep in mind the relativity of color, that a red or a brown in shadow isn't as warm as it is in light. In this image, the shadow hues are the same temperature as the light, making everything seem very flat. Try tipping the hue of the shadowed background towards blue. It'll make the character pop and provide nice visual clarity.

>>4467060
the dude's waist is fucking long

>>4467065
What else?

>short of breath while lying down
>sneezing and phlegm
fukc man why did it had to be now, I wanted to make it...

rip me 1996-2020
never made it.

bye beg

Second

>>4467050
don't, all colours have their inherent value and you'll never be able to replace that

>>4467086
youll fucking get better anon i believe in you fuck off with that doom gloom

>>4467088
damn i've never seen those loomis heads done so... sexy

Did the main shit in draw-a-box
Can I just continue copying until I'm confident and learn how to use my software quicker?
Drawing is fun but lessons like proko aren't making me eager to draw.

>>4467106
It would probably be good to do those and also mix in stuff that you like to draw! i don't see any harm in that. then as you're doing the stuff you'll make connections and learn something.

I guess you gotta treat those lessons like they're actual classes, and in your off time is the time where you can do stuff u like to do

>>4467061
If you point yellow light on white ball in a red room will you make shadow of this light tint blue?

drew these today desu

some of today's gestures

>>4467151
>shadow
it would be darker red

>>4467161
so where is blue come in his bathroom?

>>4466624
you can't. eventually it'll go away. it's up to you to keep drawing once the motivation fades

>>4467152
i don't care

>>4467166
then don't give me (You)s, nigger

>>4467155
Memory or really quick sketching?

>>4467174
more or less 1 minute per reference

recently developed tounge fetish

Took a break from learning fundamentals to try something fun. Thoughts?

>>4466133
This is epic

>>4467188
not enough fundamentals

>>4467181
Cool, keep practicing

>>4466692
Nice, ear is still fucked. I told you to study ears twice.

>>4466737
>3120x4160

>>4467057
Clean af anon

>>4467152
Good stuff, not beg tier tho so gtfo.

>>4467060
Draw or atleast thing through forms. His right arm is way off.

>>4467060
>>4467199
Ok, nvm i just noticed that its not his arm lol.

>>4466875
what is this from, proko?

>>4467201
villpu's book has them

>>4467200
Don't you see anything else wrong?

>>4467188
loomis

>>4467164
Color relativity. Not make it blue, adjust the hue to the left/blue edge slightly to provide color contrast and visual interest.

https://purplepwny.com/blog/color_relativity_color_theory_beyond_the_wheel.html

Not really a beginner topic, but >>4467014 is just about over that category anyway.

values are off but just tried to get the shapes down atleast

>>4466604
But every drawing in keys of drawing looks like a messy pile of pubic hair.

>>4467171
i'll give you whatever the fuck I want you stupid bitch shut the fuck up

>>4466737
You can look at the cat, try to see it as 3D volumes, and then go to your paper and try to draw it. Compare, refine your mental conception of those volumes, draw again. Draw in many different poses this way, first based on life, but as soon as you get a feel for it, start imagining the pose, but still comparing your result with life.

Basically trying to see the cat as 3D volumes and then trying to draw that from memory, and comparing. It’ll make it obvious to yourself which aspects of the cat you haven’t paid proper attention to to be able to remember it

>>4466708
if anything, the danger is that the gains are too visible and seductive. it makes it easy to get impressed wows out of normalfags without learning to think three dimensionally, or even think at all.
it's good learning tool as far as it goes. line for line, tone for tone, 2d to 2d copying teaches you a great deal about using your eyes and hands.

>>4467188
needs flames

>always get aroused when drawing girls
How do I stop being such a coomer

>>4466858
Don’t listen to these ngmis... Simply copying from reference or life will teach you many things. Grid is just a way to make it more manageable. Should eventually be ditched

im gonna do 420 2min gesture drawings

Hey guys, any tips on how to make this picture cuter? I would really appreciate it.

I see a lot of people who use pencils their line art on digital pieces but I use pens. Is there a reason to use one over the other?

Pic related it's a quick character pose study.

the girl in the foreground is awful, should have left her out.

Why can't I draw straight even when drawing from my shoulder? When I try it always veers off to the side and or is wobbly.

>>4467335
because your shoulder is a ball joint, not a rail.

>>4466088
She could never work this way if she didn't study the real thing. Anyone who knows the first thing about perspective can see that she has mastered it a long ass time ago.

>>4467182
>tongue fetish

>>4467086
see you tomorrow!

>>4466844
This is stunning

>>4467342
What should I do differently if I want to draw horizontal or vertical lines?

>>4466133
Getting more vibrant colors can only be done if you consciously use use them while working. Things I can suggest:

1) Make a Palette before work.
If you haven't done so plan and check your colors first before you start adding details or rendering and use the palette for picking colors and stick to them. That your base colors should be fine.

2) Since we have digital tech try tonal correction, adjust saturation and luminosity. You can even do this after you are finished with the rendering.
On the overprint I started by +10 Saturation and +10 Luminosity.

3) Check your screen settings, maybe your screen has too high saturation by default that distorts your observation. Maybe you have a software on that auto dims the screen based on the time of day (and speaking of).

4) Keep the time of day and other light s in your environment in mind, like it or not the light around you in the room will constantly affect how perceive your work even without you realizing. I know this because I work by the window and stuff I do during the morning/day will always look muddy when I look at it in the evening.

>>4467290
godspeed Anon!

>>4467405
find which angle/direction your arm draws the straightest lines with, then rotate the paper so that you can take advantage of it.

>>4466361
ty for the advices I'll try to work on that on the nexts ones

Holy shit, perspective makes me so hard, like damn. Can't wait for my third eye opening, when I'll learn 3point

second exercise from Keys to Drawing
thoughts?

~Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have don

>>4467480
This board is for people who want to improve at art, this isn't your arts and crafts blog.

>>4467527
I can do what I want.

still waiting for the solder wire and tools to arrive, Sculpey came in though and it's super nice

I suck with bodies, does this look too bad?

>>4467531
this board is for people who don't try to make art, get out

>>4467535
It feels like arm is somewhat long or something but maybe I'm wrong and it seems this air thingy stay not on the same plane with girl

4th exercise in keys to drawing

>>4467545
nicely done

>>4467545
This is big nose I feel. I know it wasn't point

forgot to post the second exercise

>>4465872
please respond

>>4466604
I'll bet anything that you don't know how to render a car. You read other people on ic suggest Scott. You are a real life npc. It's so rare that anyone posts a car drawing instead of a waifu that you don't know how to react so you just go into auto pilot. Car =Scott Robertson. Don't fucking argue about it. Face the reality of what your are and why you did that.

>>4467571
take it as you will, random Anons do it for new threads. One thing you can be certain that your picture made an impression that Anon to sue it instead of using some shitty meme pic.

>>4467560
Are you italian?

heh

>>4467635
no, its just a pose the exercise was about

>>4467636
nice, thanks Anon

I always dread drawing the head and put it off until last

tried to quickfix a few things, I think it looks a bit better this way

>>4467646
is this vin diesel? The likeness is on point

>>4467653
no, the exercise was to draw my own eyes, I took a selfie

>>4467575
That's so specific. Are you speaking based from personal experience anon?

>>4467654
Damn, I bet you're good looking.

>>4467014
it might look more coherent if you put shadows on the top half of her body, judging by the light cast on the floor. alternatively you could extend the light area into the background, if you didnt want to darken her.

>>4467645
go study faces you like and get it on with it. with your understanding of form it should be np.

>>4467585
I wasn't even the guy who drew that.
I was just wondering.

>>4467660
thx man

how to make finished piece make rough sketch for 7days (3hr per day) ^^

digging stuff for 3 month during study other stuff

made it done

>>4467670
oops wrong image

How do you draw gesture when your model isn’t some Greek god contorting his body in extreme ways. I can’t see any curve or flow in this pose, the limbs are just straight. Please can someone draw a gesture of this, because I’m getting very frustrated. I especially struggle with capturing the torso in more subtle poses.

>>4467655
honestly same experience, Car = Scott Robertson. There's nobody rendering cars quite like him

>>4467674
One leg is oblique the other is perpendicular.

>>4467571
retarded OP here. I picked it because it was clearly /beg/ tier but the author was experimenting with something and clearly learning, and not just drawing the same old fucking Loomy potato

>>4467681
Yes, but how do you communicate that in a gesture. None of the limbs are dynamic, so how do you show that in gesture?

>>4467713
are you complaining that a non-dynamic pose isn't dynamic?

>>4467722
No, he's realizing that gesture drawing (not gesture itself) is a meme.

Any thoughts?
>>4467231

tried a study

>>4467722
no, but the example i gave highlights what im struggling most with when drawing gesture. pic related is a dynamic pose, but i still dont know how i would show the gesture of her extended arm, because all i can see is an arm being extended.

>>4467674
just exaggerate the pose. no one will complain if your pose is too dynamic, but they will if it's stiff

>>4467737
if you want just the shapes, you fucked up the top right quadrant a lot

overlay it atop your reference and you'll see

>>4467766
The major curve is from torso to leg. Then there's the bend and trust of the back. The extended arm doesn't need anything dynamic, but if you really want you can give it a slight curve to imply motion

>>4467773
The leaf if definitely at a different angle and the highlight shapes are kinda off. I can see that. Anything else? Suggestions?

>>4467231
It's a hard reference image. The mid-tones and shadow reflection seem to be in the same tone, which shouldn't be right. The place it sits on is very reflective and every tone is very washed out. It's hard to decipher what is going on desu

>>4467837
that's a good point. I'll find a better ref for next one!

>>4465941
you found the concept are process, congrats

Is it better to sketch with a thicker pencil so i dont have to worry as much about the lines?

>>4467902
sharpen pencil with a chisel tip that way you get fine and thick lines by just angling the tip differently, can also be used similar to a brush if you get good with it

My stuff looks kinda soulless, which I'm trying to figure out how to fix, whether that be lines or anything like that. I haven't done much of the shading on this one but I thought I'd post it at this point just so I can know where to go from here.

I try to go for various styles but end up just putting out the same style pic. Idk how to progress. At least I'm seeing improvement, slow but steady.

>>4467970
>10 folders of layers

>>4467301
Loomis

The more I apply the loomis method the more I make mistake, when I try to draw intuitively I do less mistake... why is that ?

>>4467670
fucking koreans

>>4467984
Loomis

>>4467061
like this?

>>4467575
What is your problem? There is no magical tricks in rendering cars than makes different than anything else, it is applied optics.

>>4467575
What is your problem? There is no magical tricks in rendering cars that makes it different than rendering anything else, it is applied optics.

>>4468163
>>4468171
real intelligence being shown here

>>4467301
I think the badness makes it cute.

But if you want to improve your skills, your worst point are your lines IMO.

I bought an 05 microperm pen and a 6 inch notebook, how do I become adequate at loose sketching stuff? I don't need to be rendering photorealistic.

studying Hampton's figure drawing design and invention book

>>4468241
you're copying, not analysing; you have no idea why he drew those circles between the deltoid and the clavicle, do you

>>4467984
your anatomy is garbage but desu you can get away with some bad anatomy not yours currently, but at least give it a theme/subject instead of ramdom pin up #4976754845 as a plus try to get better at drawing heads and expressions to avoid dead stare looking at the nothingness

Pose analizing.
Can't stop myself from shading it everytime.

>>4468280
That's pretty lewd, anon.

anything looking weird?

>>4468294
absolutely everything, not gonna lie

what's the point of super saturated #0000FF blue on a dark grey background??

>>4468302
that's how I always sketch. I think it's easier to look at.

>>4468302
also I'll have you know it's 002bff

>>4468294
MY EYES

what do you think anons?

I need to stop doodling and get serious about art lol

>>4468308
>I think it's easier to look at
Bro I can't see from the thumbnail and second that's still high level of saturation. Light on dark or dark on light.

>>4468329
>>4468294
>>4467970
>>4467572

large amount of trolls here today

Some doodles

>>4468340
what do you means ?

>>4468338
>>4468346

which one of you's a troll if it's not both of you

>>4468308
>I think it's easier to look at
Either your eyes or your monitor have a problem. Could be both.

>>4468339
>>4468325
>>4468357
I don't know why you care this much about my fucking sketching colours but here you go. is this better?

>>4468214
>I think the badness makes it cute.
lol, never had this said to me before but thanks!
>But if you want to improve your skills, your worst point are your lines IMO.
Yeah, I agree. The key to improving this is literally just drawing more right? Also, I heard that drawing longer lines helps I think...

>>4468363
Because it hurts the eyes and thumbnails horribly.

>>4468363
Jesus anon! I was only trying to help.

>>4468376
alright, noted. will make sure to run a bw filter over my shit before posting it in the future.
>>4468382
and I tried to accomodate your complaints to hopefully make it easier for people to actually help me

how did i do

what is wrong with her face? I can't put my finger on it

>>4468397
too small compared to the body

>>4468397
wrong thread bud

>>4468397
>>4468400
yeah i feel like she should have a little more weight on her head as well? around the cheeks maybe

>>4468370
>The key to improving this is literally just drawing more right?
I think that doing exercises is a more efficient way of doing it. Something like drawabox for instance.

>I heard that drawing longer lines helps
yeah, you make a big confident stroke and if you miss you make the whole stroke again.

>>4468394
the thumbnail looks convincing

>>4468394
Nice, maybe you can add more highlights and line strokes to communicate the forms better. It's pretty common in product design renders though it's not realistic.

>>4468425
was following this tutorial: https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/lets-paint-a-spatula

>>4468397
I think if the head were a little bit bigger it would be fine

>>4468412
Thanks anon, I'll go check out drawabox and I'll keep in mind to do longer strokes.

>>4468443
that's what she said

>>4467984
I did a quick redline

If you really want to add "soul" to your work study the works of animators. They're really good at it.

Here are a couple things to focus on in terms of drawing

-expression( exaggerate your faces)
-posing ( If you're going to going for a standing pose, try shifting the angles, it'll creature more interest)
-Gesture ( do gesture drawings, it will help you come up with more interesting posing
-add a story to your drawing, have your interact with another character perhaps or have a background that can set a mood,

Good luck

Hey guys, hows the ergotron arm for a Cintiq 16?

Want to work while standing sometimes to not fuck up my back.

Ugh. Nothing comes out right. Back to Loomis.

>>4468356
Huh? I'm not trolling. I only posted this pic and a redline lol

>>4468228
To elaborate in regards to Pen/Ink, I feel like there's too much, "just draw a bunch of hatching lines" and not enough, "look at the object and here's how to pick what parts to highlight and what parts to remove from the piece.

>>4468256
Not that guy, but how do you analyze/study without copying?

>>4468171
Problem is every single time anyone ever posts a car, the only thing that any of you empty headed nothings can say is Scott Robertson like that is the only resource out there. None of you is ever going to be worth anything of you all get your information from one source. That is one guy. Obviously I have looked at his stuff. I'm so disappointed in the people here. Why has this one guy monopolized ic when it comes to cars? No matter what you post what type of car, what medium you're drawing, what your strengths and weaknesses are, every single time or gets the exact same response from people who call themselves artists. I am disappointed in and disgusted by all of you.

Roughed in some shadows and was planning to start painting. Every time I try I just make a mess and get frustrated going beyond the rough stage...

Any guidance on how to tackle this next level of polish on a piece for someone who's stuck at this step?

>>4468456
Could you please do your construction in a separate layer and then get rid of it before you upload? Also the lips are terrible.

>>4468397
Mouth is too small it looks like she is making sour face. Also you could make the skull itself bigger this was also kind of there on >>4466133 and I think I forgot to mention at >>4467422

>>4468465

>>4468590
>Why has this one guy monopolized something something
because he had written a very detailed book on rendering and has hours of teaching material available online? and his style is not something very special, it's regular art center curriculum and it can be used in any medium for any subject. go watch syd mead or feng zhu and it's all the same principles.

>>4468636
bix nood muh n*ggah

Studying bone structure with based Skelly app

>>4468591

>>4468647
>>4468465

What is this pose even supposed to be? Dancing? Tied up?

>>4468590
Problem is every single time anyone ever posts a girl, the only thing that any of you empty headed nothings can say is Loomis like that is the only resource out there. None of you is ever going to be worth anything of you all get your information from one source. That is one guy. Obviously I have looked at his stuff. I'm so disappointed in the people here. Why has this one guy monopolized ic when it comes to cute girls? No matter what you post what type of girl, what medium you're drawing, what your strengths and weaknesses are, every single time or gets the exact same response from people who call themselves artists. I am disappointed in and disgusted by all of you.

>>4468665
Thank you

>>4468647
So you're saying I should give up?
>>4468670
Bondage. But I realized I was shit and gave up.
Oh. Well I guess that answers the above question.

is there something like a figure drawing model with augmented reality app for smartphones or aren't we there yet?

Same doodles as before, just spent some time greyscaling the colored version, noticed the values were way off

>>4466619
"He bought? Dump it!"

Hmmm feel like this isn't working out and maybe i shouldn't be focusing on value blocking right now. Maybe I'm adding too many values and too much detail. It's hard to depict values on such an organic shape like this with only a round hard brush. Maybe I'll try a more geometric, planar object

>>4468690
Sorry. I forgot to thank you for the redline, anon. I’m just frustrated at my lack of progress. thank you, though.

>>4468714
value study in digital is such a bitch

Opinions?

>>4467560
Ma che cazzo dici, rincoglionito!

>>4468721
yaaaaaa think i'll do something else with more planes to work with. maybe something with one simple light source

>>4468671
This post is just as true as the post you replied to.

What is the dividing line (pun not intended) between restating lines and not drawing lines confidently? 2-3 lines per at most?

Can I have a quick rundown on the ISIS meme?

>>4468517
When you want to study something, you just don't copy mindlessly what you want to acknowledge, you have to deeply understand how it works; if not, you're gonna forget everything just by drawing another subject in a couple of days, plus you'll never be able to replicate the same exercise on your own without the guidelines, and just by changing the angle of your subject you'll find yourself lost, cause you really never understand it, you've just copied it from one angle until you told yourself that it was "decent enough"

>>4468743
I dont understand
please
it was an exercise
see >>4467638

I still have to redo some of the line weight and little details before I get to rendering

>>4468781
I was just joking about the italian hand pose, rilassati

>>4468738
The sun reminded me of this thing I made. Ditzbitz.com/tempus.html

>>4468714
Looks like the before and after shots of when the apple decided to hit the gym

Learning to put the eye in the eye socket. I'm sure it'll look better once I add the nose.

>>4468794
LOL, I'll take it

>>4468782
that line weight is so thin that i feel it's hurting the drawing

working traditionally this time. tried to just place the features correctly through a lot of measuring. i'm not being thorough enough about it yet

>>4468805
I agree, thats why I still gotta make adjusments to it before rendering. Not to make excuses, but the line is thinner than I wanted cause im trying out some new brush settings

>>4468815
oh well i'm stupid and read your note about the line weight but didn't comprehend any of it. right on anon

tried to study body shapes

>>4465833

Okay, I'll just throw in the towel here. This is bad. Head is too big, the forearm doesn't bend that way, and the torso seems flat rather than a 3D object. But it's probably better to return to practicing instead of trying to fix everything.

I still don't finish my sketches properly before trying to color them, which makes adding e.g. hands a disaster. I need to fix that habit. Also need to study expressions and clothes, start on perspective, and find a better method of shading than just the airbrush.

>>4469017
how do I get as good as you?

>another reference of a bulky guy sitting on a stool photographed from back with legs cropped out
man quickposes has little variety

>>4469024
I'm the last person to talk about getting good, but what I do is finding artists who improved really fast and kept their sketches around. Then I study/copy some of their art that is basic enough for me to understand. Once I understand it, I'll try to study something slightly more complex.

For example, I looked at Rindou's earlier art for the outfit up there, and I did a really bad job of it, so I should copy some of him later to help with that. Cutesexyrobutts is another good choice because he's got a lot of material around, even though he's obviously three GANs in a trench coat.

But I've just started doing this, so I don't know how effective it's going to be in the long run. All I've learned is spending an entire week on airbrushing the bejeezus out of a /beg/ sketch.

Does this look okay? Any big problems that I’m missing? Just went through Steve’s rendering class and tried to follow along in procreate

>>4469053
isnt easyer if you draw from real life?

>>4469072
I don't mean to be rude but is this what you used for reference?

>>4469096
I have a problem where I unconsciously make asses gigantic. Not sure why I keep doing it

Is it lazier to use mixer brushes?

new thread

>>4469177
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>>4466133
it's like one of those tumblr drawings, but instead of being driven by muh social justice and virtue signaling, it's fueled by pure uncontained coomerism with a semi competent execution
well done op, b&r

I have never drawn before a few days ago. I'm trying to pick some new hobbies while in quarantine. Any tips for beginners?