/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4384004
Experiment with your shapes, and do more thumbnails. Thank me later

>>4384004
i wanna kill that fucking chink youtuber

>>4384008
Based

>>4384008
yeah me too I had a dream where I bash his head with a baseball bat

>>4384008
There's finally one thing everyone can agree on

>>4384008
yup, agreed

>>4384008
>>4384045
>>4384047
>>4384052
>>4384054
>Imagine wanting to kill someone over some shitty lines.
Hope the chink keeps doing it, just to piss you faggots off.

I feel like im progressing at a snails pace or hardly at all at make me feel sad

>>4384008
>all it took was one person and people taking sides to turn /ic/ into chaos
Ridiculous.

>>4384060
fuck off mao

My brother keeps trying to Big Eyes me. I keep catching this fucker stealing my art and claiming it's his own. I'm thankful we have mutual friends who call him out on it and let me know (I try not to interact with him on social media...or ever), but really? REALLY?!

>>4384070
fuck off jet li

>>4384075
That's fucked up dude, I'm sorry.

>>4384093
I'm just thanking my lucky stars that everyone I personally know knows he's a fuck up, an asshole, and has zero motivation in life, but he's also got a pretty big social media following that he's got fooled so I'm worried about the day where our mutual friends don't see a post before they shame him in the comments to take it down and it just takes off or something. Naturally the parentals aren't seeing why it's such a big issue. Probably how he ended up like this to begin with.

>actually working on an animation but it’s taking a long time
>a few weeks back post a wip in a few threads, not spamming just like 3 or 4 relevant ones
>get maybe one good crit and that’s it
>post my progress little by little because I’m not getting any advice after several weeks
>receive a couple of compliments, which were nice and I appreciate them but I’m trying to get really honest unfiltered critique for once
>get called out for posting too much and taking too long to finish it instead of any real feedback about the content of my work
>don’t want to post it now until it’s actually finished
>stuff keeps getting in the way that’s dragging it out
>still wondering if I’m doing it correctly or not

>>4384217
Sometimes you just have to trust yourself even when the entire world doesn't anon.

>>4384218
thank you anon

>starting to realize im aeons away in fundamentals from reaching my ideal level
>starting to realize it might genuinely take years before i reach a level im happy with

>>4384008
Is this the first time /ic/ wholeheartedly agreed on 1 thing? Noice

>>4384285
It's okay, I used to feel the same way. Then nearly a decade has passed and I realized that it's not that far after all.

I feel my creativity has come to a full stop. I stopped freelancing years ago and now have a wage job. I'm desperately trying to get on antidepressants because I'll spontaneously start crying. Or disassociate for hours on end. Thinking of finishing my Cisco since I lost my will to draw.

>dont use a ref for a piece
>it turns out extra shit
>confidence tanks and I feel like the ngmi artist I am again

>>4384370
>Use refs
>Art is hella fine
>Spill my spaghetti everytime someone ask me how to draw

>>4384292
>decade not that far

>>4384008
Racist!

>>4384379
Yeah, you get old and realize every day is practically the same, years go flashing by.

>>4384004
the crazy part is youre probably brilliant at something else you just havent tried it yet

>>4384397

>>4384405
It's in response to OPs vent

im just a shit human being who uses art as a crutch for my frail ego. also unemployed

According to my conservative estimate, I'll be 35 by the time I can draw at the level I want, I should have started 10 years ago. I felt I was hopeless all this time, it took me managing to conquer another skill at a world class level through mere months of constant practice to convince me it can be done.

>>4384615
what skill are you good at?

>>4384646
Anonymous image board posting

>>4384646
post stamp licking

I crave attention I won't lie to myself anymore

>>4384646
Killing myself

>>4384397
You could say that about anyone. I blame our shitty school systems that don't bother to facilitate this.

I did coomer art and i feel shame now

People on this board need to start dealing with their anger issues and broken past instead of trying to insult other people so they feel as bad as them.

Any insult you say is not going to be original or witty, happy saturday .

being /beg/ is suffering

>>4384816
man i could rant about the school system till i filled up a book

>>4384801
I call bullshit. The fact that you're posting means that you're clearly inept at killing yourself.
We're all disappointed anon.

>>4384715
Eeh, I've seen better.

>>4384883
But i'm posting from hell

>>4384893
How's the weather down there this time of year?

>>4384896
It getting hotter even year because of global warming, Satan won't shut up about it.

i decided to pause my practicing and tried to look at almost every single thread in the catalog
Now i'm mad, unlikely to continue drawing and want to kill half of people in this board

>>4384919
Aw i love you too anon

>>4384919
You know that you can HIDE the dumb threads and PIN the good ones, right? It makes /ic/ instantly better.

>>4384766
Go get that attention Anon.

my lineart sucks big fat dicks and my drawings have zero soul, I also tried playing an instrument and game dev and I fucking suck at those too.
Somehow I still have fun doing all of this

>>4384766
I've been trying to understand this. Why? What happens once you get attention daily?

>>4384008
Based Happy making this entire board absolutely SEETHE. If you don’t want your shit getting critiqued, don’t post here you little faggot bitch. This is an anonymous board where literally anyone is allowed to post and make YouTube content off.

You bitching is like keeping your door open and getting pissed when people enter your house.

>>4384218
>>4384222

Luckily, /ic/ is not the entire fucking world and that you’re able to find critique elsewhere. Look for animation specific discord servers that aren’t hugboxes and post your work there.

>happy infecting even the vent thread
based

>post a drawing almost every day
>average at around 15 likes/3RTs
>post a fotm or popular thing from time to time
>up to 1.2k likes / 100+RTs
People always tell me to just continue posting what I like drawing and eventually people and numbers will come on their own, but I don't feel like that is the case at all. All the posts that did really well were not even polished or high quality pieces unlike the stuff that I usually post. The way I see it I should just continue drawing popular stuff until I have a proper audience and then start posting the stuff I actually care about.

>>4384008
>>4384047
Rent free

>>4386469
People who say ‘draw what you love and people will come to you’ are usually the people who unironically enjoy the biggest trends

>>4386515
Yeah, I noticed myself and usually it's the people with at least 5-10k followers saying this, but I didn't wanna tell them that because I'd probably sound like an huge ass. I need to find a way to incorporate popular stuff into my art while drawing what I like at the same time, so I don't lose my soul entirely in the process.

>>4386743
I notice my follower count stagnate heavily when I started to drift from the 'fandom' I was in. Still have an icon for said thing but my art doesn't get nearly enough attention.
It sucks that piggybacking off the creation of others is really the biggest stepping stone to making a social media presence. Even worse when it's already a niche series

why do females must do this?

now admittedly I have jerked off to her photos but still
pathetic

>>4386787
gives money, i guess you're somekind retarded to ask those stupid questions

>>4386743
Draw crossover between what you like and popular stuff

>>4386787
Because it's easy money and attention. Blame the dickbrain that is your gender for allowing this

>>4384004
Is there a good skeletal posing app out there? I dream of one

>>4386903
Not really that I know of i downloaded one called anatomy for artists and the gay shit had a pay wall and wouldn't let you pose anything, just look at the rendered images from a front veiw lol.

>>4386903
Nah, proko's sucks so don't bother with his before youbtry

>>4386903
We all dream of one of those anon

Every single artistic problem feels absolutely insurmountable. There are just too many possible solutions. Getting the curve of that ear right, that eye right, that nose right, it would take a miracle for it to actually all come together, and if you make one tiny mistake then it's obvious to everyone, artist or not, that your work is a /beg/ piece of shit. People post drawings that they "did in a few hours" that would take me weeks to even come close to. In a "few hours" I would have a retarded looking mess of scribbles with only the faintest hope of eventually beating it into shape through long arduous trial and error. The fact that there are humans who are able to draw quickly enough and accurately enough to do things like animate cartoons is nothing short of magic.
I've been at this for 1.5 years and I have seen some gains, but I feel like it'll take 100 more years to get to the level of the average pro, if it's even possible for me.

Every time I sketch something I like and I realize it's becoming a larger project I'm paralyzed. I know that if I work on it I'll eventually put it online, I'll get total silence in return and I'll be disappointed.
The only way I can bring myself to post anything is by half-assing it in the first place so I don't care about the emotional investment.
I can't find a way to undo the burns I got every time I believed I had improved enough to stand out so I could tell a story. The things that people like today are completely alien to me, the things I like are so clever I'd never be able to pull them off myself. Barring a miracle I don't have a chance.

>>4386920
Curves are impossible to get right every time, use straights to figure out proportions and angles and then turn them into curves from there.

I don't know how to turn my maladaptive daydreaming into inspiration?! I get so stuck in my head I can't draw. I can't focus on one subject for too long because the story keeps evolving in my head.

>>4387173
Just sketch. Even 30 second sketches can help you get started with an idea. I keep a sketchbook around all the time to do that. When you have starting material you can start reiterating into something more complete.
It's a bit like keeping a dream journal, you have to just jot it down when you wake up before you forget.

>>4387182
what good is a 30 second sketch going to do

How do I deal with the feelings of constant regret? I'll see someone on Twitter or pixiv who only in ~2 years improved rapidly and I look back at myself and think "why am I such a fuck up? whats the secret?". I try to draw every day when I'm not busy and when I draw I do it for a couple hours at a time. I've been at it seriously for about 4 years and I'll just feel depressed that I'm barely anywhere near a decent level while other people just raced ahead of me. I don't know if I'm just slow at learning or art isn't for me.

>>4387909
Realize you're a 1 in 7 billion miracle and that you're unique, no one can ever replace you no matter what other people say.

>>4387912
He is not a special snowflake.
>>4387909
Art was not made for everyone. Talent is a pursued interest, if you are more concerned about what others are doing instead of minding your own business I suggest you give up now while you're ahead.

>>4387920
>Art was not made for everyone. Talent is a pursued interest, if you are more concerned about what others are doing instead of minding your own business I suggest you give up now while you're ahead.
It's not that I'm concerned, I just feel like I'm doing everything wrong when it seems like others can just improve way faster than me. I don't know what to do anymore.

>>4387909
What exactly is it about their art do you like?

>>4384008
this but with the guy(s) who tries to force aw*wu into the new memespeak of /ic/.

>>4387961
I'm sure that faggot has recruited minions to further spread chaos
It's not just one poster anymore

>>4386469
Everyone suffers from this but you might want to take a look at your current skill level if you are getting that much discrepancy between posting original/non-fotm stuff and your fotm work.

If you fotm stuffs are getting 3k likes while your originals are getting less than 1k then you either don't have a lot of followers in the first place or people don't actually like your stuffs beside the fotm factor.

>>4387960
I just like that from in such a small time frame they went from maybe /beg/-tier to something somewhat decent. Maybe I'm too hard on myself but I really don't feel like my art's improved and for someone that's been at it for a while as a hobby just feels downright embarrassing.

I feel like I'm constantly forgetting how to render at a consistent level
For anatomy, it really comes down to learning the muscles and fans doesn't it? I think I'm comfortable rendering the front of the body, but then the back is what the fucksville

>>4387909
refer to that one Simpsons episode with Homer chasing Edison

There's ALWAYS someone better than you no matter how talented you are, don't let those thoughts put you down because nothing literally matters outside of you improving yourself.

>>4387986
Yeah! I also like to remember Van Gough started painting at 27.. and if you started before him you're in a good spot. I just feel like I need a teacher or someone to hold my hand (no homo) and give me some guidance. I don't trust myself.

>>4387999
Van Gogh didn't seem like he trusted himself either and look at how far he got.

Crippling depression prevents me from drawing anything, as weeks and months slip by

you just have to work really hard guys and wotk smartly find different resources experiment and dont get stuck with achieving certain goald based on others art find genuine joy in what youte doing, draw for yourself as well and it beckmes easier when this is therapeutic.

>>4388030
i want drawing to cure all my problems though

>>4388030
tb.h I'm too scared to even start

>no activity from me for 2 weeks on twitter
>completely dead notifications
>write some 15 words tweet few days ago just to let everyone know that I'm not dead
>suddenly keep getting new likes and followers for 4 days straight
How the fuck twitter works

>>4388441
>some guy who has a good amount of followers retweeted your message
>his followers see your tweet
>follows the tweet into your account
>"hey I like this guy's work and I would like to keep seeing it, better put him on follow so I don't have to rely on retweets to see his new work!"
>hits follow

Do you not follow people on twitter?

>>4388454
Why would anyone retweet a stupid message, it got 15~ likes only I think, there was nothing funny nor interesting. I think it has something to do with algorithms.

>>4387909
>I try to draw every day
How much do you actually draw per week?
It sounds like you might be averaging less than 2 hours per day. It takes thousands of hours to get good. How many hours have you actually put in over those 4 years?

>>4387909
Think about all those artists who started drawing way before you and still worse than you. The ride never ends.

>>4388025
You're not depressed, you're just gay and lazy. Now get to work

>>4388491
what he said, I don't want to turn this thread into "actual autists who have been drawing for 10 years and hasn't improve at all: the thread" so someone will have to make a new thread and dump links/pictures over there.

while it might be uplifting to see that there are people worse than you out there, it's really not healthy by comparing yourself with the absolute worst of the worst.

>>4388512
Just cope with the fact that some people will always be better than others

This thread is 100% better than happyboynumber1 youtube video

>>4388514
yeah, I agree with you 100%, as someone who starts really late (28) literally everyone I follow on twitter are better than me and I probably won't be on their level for another 3-4 years even though they are barely 18.

The world isn't fair but art isn't a race, the only thing that matter is what you do on your own and you keep on improving.

>4388523
Is this the part where I ask who and you link your stupid fucking channel?

Not the most comfortable setup

Actually it is very uncomfortable after a while

>>4388550
woops, wrong thread

>>4387728
Getting a idea down before it flys away

>Student's work looks worse after the course
>SOUL/SOULLESS
BROS

>>4388986
So are you venting about this
some random dude's work?

>>4388992
I had an urge to shitpost the SOUL/SOULLESS meme, since I didn't feel like shitting up the board with a thread about that meme I went here to vent, yes

I'm tired of using photo reference for for figure drawing but I still haven't found a class with a real model that can acomodate my day job

Can you still make it if you start at age 30?

>>4389007
Age doesnt matter, stop looking for excuses as of why you don't draw.

>>4389007
I believe that you can git gud even if you start at 30, as long as you can put in the time. Most people don't pick up new skills at that age because they have a full time job and probably a family too, which put together will take 100% of a person's time, but if you can jettison one or both then you'll be fine.
Getting a job at a big name studio might be another story, but don't worry about that now. If you really want to be good at drawing then you can achieve that.

Not really a vent, but dunno where else to put this. There's this 35yo literally who autismo on DA I've been following for quite a while. Y'know the ones, they draw for 20 years and yet their drawings still look like its from a kid. This person is pretty delusional. The other day, they made a post about how Disney stole their oc, even though they look nothing alike. They have in their bio the username they're gonna change to in a few days. I sorta wanna claim the name since I bet they'll go apeshit. Only reason I don't is I'm worried I could somehow be doxxed

>>4389386
crabs truly are interesting beings

>>4389386
Do it faggot.

>>4384217
Just post it, let's see what you've got. Or post it in the animation thread again and leave a link here.

I use drawing to cope with loneliness/feeling numb. I've become so used to it that i don't enjoy games anymore, all the time i'm just thinking "i should be drawing right now".

The isolation is kind of driving me insane, in some way i can feel i'm not the person i was a year or two ago.

I'm better though, but at what cost? It keeps me thinking sometimes.

>>4388999
based

>>4384919
Welcome to /ic/.

I am so angry and frustrated at myself, everything ive made was absolute dogshit. Now at 7 months in and even taking classes like life drawing in college and i feel so fucking inept. I felt like i have progressed so fucking slowly or barely even at all even though i have been drawing for at least 3 hours a day. Its so infuriating, I feel like I'm falling behind so much and I feel as if nowhere near where I should have been after all this time. I feel so utterly worthless and like a failure, making same mistakes like a retard, i feel like am i going so so damn slow. Its depressing.

>See draw thread on another board
> See fun idea, decide to try'
>Post
>annon post same prompt
>there's is better, they get triple My (yous)

>>4389752
I feel you. I like to believe that artist saw my artwork and believed they could do it but better. As a result of my artwork, I altered the course of history and that makes my artwork have extreme amounts of value as that artist may never have drawn their better version of my attempt.

>>4384004
I gave up on drawing two months ago and I've been on the verge of suicide ever since. Don't give up kids, it will feel worse than what you are feeling now

>>4389704
>Now at 7 months in

anon you are developing a completely new skillset, you are not suppose to be "competent" in so short amount of time, when you are looking at successful artists who advance in skills very fast on social media remember that those people are the one out of a million prodigies, they are not suppose to be common and using them as indicator of your growth is completely unrealistic.

Remember that for every one success story out there there's a thousand people who are going through the same struggles as you are going through right now, slowly but steadily learning from mistakes is nothing to be ashamed of.

>>4389704
7 months is nothing. How many hours have you put in total? I needed over a thousand hours before I felt like I made it from level 0 to level 1. If you're doing 2-3 hours a day it could take over a year to accumulate that much.
Just keep grinding and the gains will come.

>>4390186
Sorry I completely missed where you talked about hours.
A half a year at 3 hours a day is still nothing, if you have no talent to pull you along (and most of us don't). You just have to stick it out.

>>4389518
You just described me
Im isolated sack of shit.i only go out to work

>post in a draw thread
>everybody thinks you're a tryhard and just ignores the post.
>only (you)s come from crabs trying to bring you down

>>4390265
that’s how you know you’re gmi anon

I don't want to draw, it's psychological torture for me.
But all I hear in my head is
>Draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, why the fuck aren't I drawing? I should be learning how to draw right now.

>Draw what you want to draw
I can't draw what I want because I can only just barely fucking manage to freehand an unsatisfactory cube from one perspective after 40+ hours of practicing it. Even if I were to try and draw what I wanted to, it would come out much worse than anything a /beg/ could manage.
The idea of figure drawing let alone actually doing it gives me a migraine
>it's not what i want to draw
>but it's the only way to learn how to draw what i want to draw
>annoying because i'm shit at it
>last but not least it's FUCKING BORING too

I want to CREATE SOMETHING, not fill a fucking sketchbook with a million straight lines and a million fucking boxes, but the only way to create something is to fill that sketchbook with 10 million straight lines and 10 million fucking boxes.

>>4390277
someone is going to break

>>4390277
I never studied anatomy like others on YouTube and in college suggest you should. I learned what I know from observing and asking myself why certain shades and shapes do what they do. I found it more fun that way. Also working in the 3D industry practically burned a sense of 3D into my brain without having to draw infinite boxes. There are other paths, anon.

>>4389704
Did you keep your drawings? Let's see them and work out what could be improved.

>>4390277
>Even if I were to try and draw what I wanted to, it would come out much worse than anything a /beg/ could manage.
If you only want to see a result and not enjoying the process, you're going to burn out in 2 days.
Putting so much pressure on yourself isn't going to help, m80. I know it sounds trite, but try something new, fuck around with real media you haven't tried, try to copy some styles that you never attempted before etc., or just mindlessly scribble and slap yourself every time you begin judging yourself.
>but the only way to create something is to fill that sketchbook with 10 million straight lines and 10 million fucking boxes
Drawing boxes from life can be fun.

>>4390277
>drawabox claims another victim
you could have been having fun with your pencil this whole time

>>4390290
I hope I do, it would be better than how I feel right now.

>>4390291
Infinite boxes, infinite drawings of people or household items, all of those are the same to me, they're not what I want to draw.
I wouldn't doubt that there are other paths, but I sure can't think of them and I don't want to choose the ones that involve torturing myself 6+ hours a day for 2-4 years.

>>4390302
How am I supposed to enjoy the process if it's not turning out the way I want it to or if i'm making mistakes? I'll admit that one of my biggest flaws as a person is my inability to accept failure, but that's not going to change without some magical life changing event falling onto me from the sky.
>Drawing boxes from life can be fun.
Not if I don't want to draw them, though.

>>4390316
I haven't been to drawabox once and I actually read fun with a pencil but I couldn't get past it because I don't want to draw a bunch of circles to practice construction, and even if I wanted to construct something from my head, all my ideas that could be turned into a drawing magically vanish from my head whenever I start holding a pencil.

>>4390292
Yes which ones? The most recent or just the ones over time?

>>4390326
Try just drawing from an image. You don’t need an idea to start. The ideas will come as you draw.

>>4390318
>Infinite boxes, infinite drawings of people or household items, all of those are the same to me, they're not what I want to draw.

nigga just throw your boxes out of the fucking window, sit down and draw something that you actually want to draw, be it anime thots or race cars, fundamentals are undeniably important but the most important thing about drawing is to keep your passion going, if you feel like you are not having fun, toss your fundamentals out of the window and do something "fun" with your pencil until you feel like you are ready to grind fundies again.

>I'll admit that one of my biggest flaws as a person is my inability to accept failure, but that's not going to change without some magical life changing event falling onto me from the sky.

That's everyone when they first start out, I hate failure too but when you are failing in drawing, nobody will judge you for being shit because you are not doing it in public. Also being shit is part of the learning process, rationalize to yourself that you are learning with each failure and just keep on going.

>>4390318
Just search for artists that inspire you and copy the hell out of them.

>>4389755

>>4389386
for the lulz!!!

>>4384004
I HAVE NO MORE MOOD STABILIZERS OR TRANQUILIZERS SO I MUST TAKE OUT MY RAGE ON THE CANVAS

nuking my followings tonight, had enough of the usual boring beauty anime female.
Ascend!

>>4390292
Here is the most recent stuff that is have been finished or mostly finished

>>4390608
Loosen up.

>>4390608
You should work on finishing your stuff, nice ass and legs.

Lmao, is this like the black pill of art or something ? OP the shit you posted in the thread isn't even that bad. You just look like a stiff noob. You're focusing too much on like pure technical skill. Drawing is FUN. I'm decent at drawing from life, and I'm trying to use more references, but idk I just love sitting around painting and experimenting with different textures and mediums and abstraction. I'm not trying to endlessly grind to the top of the technical ladder. and guess what, my art is better for that. obviously theres a flip side to this, I'm not sayin abandon all study, because that's very necessary.

Try new things. When you make a mistake, try to work within it. Try throwing down random shapes or ink blots and make it into something. Maybe draw a comic instead of just a figure study.

You should enjoy grinding to the top. Do you actually like to draw?

>watching tutorials on how to use toonboom
>"blah blah words"
>brain turns to mush then I close the program

Christ this shit is exhausting, haven't used an animation program since adobe cs3, oh well maybe tomorrow

>>4390326
it doesn't really matter if you've been there, you're still doing boxes for high reps and expecting improvement.
to make progress you need to keep your brain and eyes engaged in what you're drawing, and thoughtlessly spamming a million boxes turns into a brain-off-eyes-closed activity.

I wish the mods would permaban people spamming bait threads and the amawu autist.

>>4390277
This is why people advocating things like drawabox should get a prison sentence, it's psychological torture and makes people hate drawing.

>>4390277
I started as a drawaboxer too but got over it when I started forcing myself to make finished drawings
Try it even if it turns out to be shit, you'll know precisely what to do next (what areas to study first,...). And don't worry if it looks bad, you can always re-do it later when you get better.

>>4391881
>be me
>listen to people and watch some asian dude demand perfect lines as his raw beginner intro to art
>spend weeks filling up a stack of paper with lines
>lines never improve and even the best one is still just a line
>it's fucking boring
>wow, art sucks
>year later
>listen to people and try drawabox
>fill up pages with boxes
>boxes don't improve, and even the best one is still just a box
>it's fucking boring
>wow, art sucks
>couple years later
>listen to people and try loomis
>fill up pages with potato heads
>a few of them turn out alright on accident
>use flukes for inspiration and build on them
>wow, art isn't boring

I hate my job. I'm almost at my limit. I do tech support for a lab equipment company. The customers are so angry and so miserable and stupid. I can not see myself working here getting talked down to and insulted by assholes for the next 35 years. I make just enough money to cover the bills but not really to save up. I've seen a therapist for depression. I've tried to fix relationships with my family. I focus on improving at drawing to help my self esteem but my life is so fucking monotonous. It's kind of unbearable. I've thought about going to school for industrial design or something. But I don't know that a career in that would be less horrible. Pay might be about the same. But there's no guarantee it'd be any more satisfying. What in the fuck are we supposed to do?

>>4384008
Who??

>>4392096
something something happyartboy, the dude was shilling his channel on /ic/ a few days back but got really annoying once he started to force "amawu" into /ic/'s meme vocabulary.

>>4385160

thank you for your retard opinion

>>4385160
Was this written by a fucking AI?

I kind of think angels and demons made us like we made AI and they didn't see us as sentient creatures so they just fucking torture us constantly. Maybe initially they had a plan for us but over time we evolved, we civilized, we found ways to feed everybody, invent medicine etc. So they just put us on a space ship and fired us off into a black void and now we don't know what our purpose was and we're just alone and lost out here. And honestly I don't think anything happens when we die. Saddest thing ever is when someone dies but life always goes on. The younger people get over it and they forget about you. I don't know anything about my own great grandparents. Don't know what they looked like, what their jobs were, how they died, nothing. You need the idea of the reunion to battle the sadness of death initially but if you meet your grandmother 50 years later, what would you talk about? Would you really still want to hug and kiss this person? Do you still feel anything for them? How close were you really in the first place? Ever lost touch with a good friend and met up years later? It sucks. They aren't even fun anymore. You meet with them once and then never again. People share moments together in time. But love and friendship don't last forever. If you die old and loved that's the best you can do. That's the end right there. Sadness doesn't make it untrue.

>every single gesture guide/book/tutorial handles only the most extreme poses
>find them super simple and easy to do
>have to draw person just standing in a neutral way
>clueless where to start

AAAAAAHHHH

>>4392256
sublte and neutral poses are more difficult - proportions and perspective are more evident and need more accuracy to look good

>>4392256
That's what happens when you learn by yourself. Always focus on balancing weight. Just draw a line straight down and make sure the pose is balanced. Contrapossto is one example to handle neutral poses.

i only recently started thinking about drawing, because i reckon i consoom too much, and now i want to make something too. but now when i see good art, instead of thinking "wow that's nice" like i used to, i start burning up inside thinking "damn bro how am i gonna get that good at drawing"

>>4384004
Idk how to get the mindset to do art even when I don't feel like its the "right time" or mood

>fucking insta gram slut that knows how to hustle her godawful art and merch is able to afford a condo in Las vegas, travelall over the world, and just freelances and post her self all day


How can I get that life bros

>>4393256
Post link

I did this thing fuck it, I think

I thought I would make it faster
Now after 5 months of drawing I still couldn't earn any money from it and I still don't have a job

>>4394058
Don’t worry. 5 years and still haven’t made it.

has going on anti depressants or medication helped any of you get back into art or to be more inspired/productive? ive been drawing since i was 10 and recently ive stopped completely because i am so depressed, i feel uninspired and do not care about drawing as much. but drawing is one of my only passions and i want to have that back. ive been thinking of going on medication but if it wont help me to be more productive then i wont bother.

>>4394390
SSRIs kill creativity and emotion, stay away.

>>4394390
No it doesnt help im on them and still depressed

>>4384004

Why do you think this is ?

You never had anything in your life you would want to draw or paint about?

Think the worst you have been, the best you have been, the most loving you have been, the most hating you have been?

Now there's your "spark". put it on canvas, paper or electronic devices.

>>4394398

Get Lithium and pair alcohol.. all mental constraints removed.>>4394437
>>4394390

Keep ripping out my sketches from my sketchbook the second they're finished. I hate looking at them, they make me sick. Why even try to make anything? I'll never get better.

Why do people get high and mighty with being better than other people in art when all that determines it is harder work? I can't really see the enjoyment of downing people for having lesser experience when everybody starts from the bottom. Even if people develop quicker it's more luck than anything that contributes to it and not them. I've gotten to the point where I perceive almost all good artists to be stuck up.

Apparently everything I draw is irredeemably boring.
All the technical skill I keep acquiring amounts to barely anything since people skim over my art without giving a damn. I keep telling myself I don't need the validation but I wish my art was cool.

>>4384295
It sounds like you're going through some really rough shit anon. All I can do is leave you a nice comment and hope it helps you get through one more day. I'm rooting for you. Get the help you need, hopefully it'll help you keep making progress and feeling better about yourself and your life and if it helps at all, remember you don't have to be in a constant state of success to feel worthy. It's okay to just be alive sometimes and that's enough.

>>4396473
Let me guess, someone shit on you.
Boo hoo cry me a river, go draw and be better

>>4396537
This is from seeing it anywhere between people whether it is direct or indirect.

>>4396473
I'm somewhere between level 0.5 and level 1 and the only enjoyment I have in life right now is shitting on people who are at level 0.
I have to be better than SOMEONE by now, orherwise what the hell am I even doing here.

>>4396685
>orherwise what the hell am I even doing here.
Maybe having fun? You DO find making art to be fun, right?

someone on >>>/y/ compares my art to bakugou
fucking faggots

>>4396724
lol

Not so much a vent as it is a PSA for all the youngsters here. I was one of those kids that spent hours drawing every day. I eventually got to the level of "Kinda decent" but it's not as though I was actually doing fundies as a kid. After high school, I looked into actually improving and started doing gestures, figure drawing, drawing from life, FEELING THE F O R M, etc. This went on for a couple years then one day, I just... quit. I had become depressed and overworked and I realized I didn't have time to spend hours a day practicing my art. I hadn't picked up a pencil for 7 years, up until about a month ago. I'm almost 28 years old now, and my drawings are fucking amateurish as hell. My shit is so washed up and bad that I regularly post in /beg/ and get roasted for how bad it looks. I wasted nearly my entire 20's doing nothing and now I deeply regret it. Don't be like me, anons. Practice your art, find the time. Even if you only do so for about an hour a night. Practice your art.

Sometimes I feel that my stupidity gets in the way of me learning art. I like stylized art and I genuinely want stylized art. But I don't understand how to stylize art. I am on a fine path of becoming a human printer and I cant break free.

>>4389518
>>4390253
glad im not the only one. Art is all i really have anymore, I cant get myself to watch shows or play vidya, it used to be guilt about not drawing but now i just actively dislike them. I have less and less in common with my friends, and the few i feel like i can relate to i cant bring myself to talk to because all i want to do is talk about how depressed i am. I just go to work, eat, draw and sleep. I should be a better artist for how little else i do

>>4396685
You might as well be level 0 with the mindset that you must be better than someone else. The only person's art you should compare yours to, is your past self.

Hey anons, am I the only one who get things like this?
When I draw, for the first minutes I can think about what I am doing but quickly my mind goes away and I start to wander. It's always the same things. I think about how fucked up my childhood was, how bad it affects me today, how awkward I am with social interactions ,how difficult for me it is to get through life and also a lot of other stuff about what's happening in the world.
I try to control it, but I always fail. I keep drawing during the process but I know I am not fully using my capacity.
It's kinda like when you read a book and your mind is gone away into your imagination but your eyes and a part of your brain keeps reading what's written on paper.

I still learn some stuff though and sometimes I put my thinking on pause when I find a new interesting way to draw a muscle (or whatever I am drawing). But this is inconscious and I'd like to draw in a non automatic way.

Anyway, sorry if this is confusing, I don't really know how to write it down better and I myself am a bit confused at the moment.

>Post in a draw thread
>Piece was worth 8 hours of my life
>Could have net me 30-50$ if sold
>No (you)s
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4397118
This is the kind of despair I come here for.

>>4397118
>post 1 hour drawing
>mutliple (You)s asking for my blog and if I take commissions
>they're all me

>>4397105
This happens to me too. My mind often wanders back to specific moments or people that fucked up my life and literally landed me in the gutter. Whenever it happens I feel part of me deflate inside and I end up with technically sound but somewhat lifeless drawings. I love drawing more than anything so I hate that these thoughts come along with it. But on good days it doesn't happen and I think slowly the good days are outnumbering the bad. It helps that I got away from shitty people and started improving other areas of my life. Maybe something like that could help you. Either way, you're not alone.

How do I speed up my process?
I can draw magnificent things but in the same time someone does equally great stuff, it's 2 hours for them and for me it's like 10
I feel like treading on tar

>>4384816
My blame goes to parents and partly to school system
If and when I get a kid, I will do my damnest to help them find their path in life and support them 100%, even if it's robbing banks or strutting ass on chaturbate.
If you have a child, you should be spending time with them
When I was at school, I used to doodle a ton but often times teachers would outright deny me from drawing because it interrupted my learning of the subject. Sure, that is right, but if a kid is showing promise in his doodles, you need to encourage them, not fucking deny them and force that math down their throat, it's not like a kid with artistic tendencies would suddenly become a mathematician

Homeschooling would be great for a more relaxed teaching instead of forceful teaching, but then they wouldn't meet new friends and friends are important for a growing child, education is a double edged sword.

>>4397134
Thanks for sharing that. I appreciate it.
For the moment I can't get away from some people but I hope this will change soon. I also plan to go through a therapy if possible, but I'll see what I can do.
That being said, I'm glad to see you're on the way to get better. I hope you will be fine, anon.

>>4397150
Every hardship you have and will face with your pursuit of improvement has been faced already by everyone greater than you. At least you can see through them where it can take you, and i hope they inspire you more than they intimidate.

There are no shortcuts. You want to speed up process? Practice more often, keep grinding those fundamentals, and focus on what you are/could be doing rather than what you can't do, at least not quite yet.

Best of luck!

It took years but I no longer want to die. I finally started enjoying drawing again and for the first time in my life I almost feel a tiny but proud of how far I've come
I hope you all make it anons

Do people actually enjoy drawing? I constantly want to punch holes in my walls while drawing because its shittyness

>>4397965
>Do people actually enjoy drawing?
I do, it's fun and rather relaxing.

Honestly, I thought returning to pinups and a few coomer animations would be a fun experience. Yet, it's just empty and joyless to me, like I'm pulling myself in others into a dark rabbit hole and a waste of an existence.

Some of the more recent illustrations I have done? They haven't netted much of a following, but I'm proud of how they turned out and that they reflect my strengths and passions as an artist.

I have a path into the industry now, and a traditional art side business showing much promise.

And if I can turn that subject and make a profit off it via animations, I'd be able to live unchained by my regrets. I'd move forward with my life again.

>post loli on my profile
>lose followers in doves

....sigh

>>4397953
Great stuff, anon. You’ll make it, so keep it up.

>>4397989
Pretty based to be honest desu. You didn't know those fake followers anyways. Only followers with good taste.

>>4396685
If your not having fun with art, this hobby/profession is not for you.

>>4397989
follower count is a meme, engagement is all that matters. Don't worry m8 and gimme that blog

>>4398285
Get fucked, I let people convince me to quit once because I "wasn't having fun" and I'm not gonna let it happen again.

>>4398325
Based

>>4398325
Whats the point of drawing if your not having fun? Also by your own admission, your dog shit, so your not gonna improve with a mindset of I get to shit on people because I'm better.
>>4398326
Also don't reply to yourself you fucking fool.

4398336
(You)

>>4398336
>What's the point of drawing if you're not having fun?
To be able to create the type of art that I want to create.

>>4397965
I find art a chore, but it's the only thing I'm good at. I'm not sure I'd bother continuing if I wasn't as there's a lot more interesting/better paid fields to move into.

Could I be good if I really tried? Yeah, most likely. Too bad I'm a lazy dickhead with a million excuses.

>>4388490
>It takes thousands of hours to get good.

This is pure horse shit. I've always been able to draw, never had to 'grind fundamentals' or any crap like that. Why the fuck are you even in this if you don't have any natural ability?

I don't want to disparage people who are trying but the earnings in this field are pitiful compared to STEM. In fact a male with an arts degree is projected to LOSE money over the course of his life even compared to people without degrees. That's how low paid this field is and why you need a technical advantage to begin with.

>>4398963
Post your work

I was eager to vent. But I've made a decision skipping that today and draw instead.

>>4384004
Excuses are for losers OP. Get back to work.

>>4389518
>>4390253
>>4396917
>loneliness/feeling numb.
It's called social isolation, and you can get it even if you're not actually alone. You can look it up under that name or contact one of the Cracked.com writers (Seanbaby?)- he has a recurring 'joke' about putting out a cigarette against his skin just to feel something again.
same boat.

>>4392028
I write down money-making schemes as I come up with or encounter them. Most aren't going to be actionable but they are ideas to launch off of.
Assuming anon was right, I think the American Sign/ASL interpreter would probably be the best fit. You can learn ASL online from Duolingo.

>>4397105
I never got specific memories but this sounds a lot like what would happen when I began woodcarving, I'd get really depressed when I got to a part that felt pointless and mostly mindless (scrabbling at a hard piece of wood with a knife too thin to properly cut it).
It sounds like you're not used to being alone with your thoughts, man.
Or possibly you're in a vulnerable/threatened state of mind, and bringing up threatened memories because of it. Try woodcarving? It resolved eventually in my case.
https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Carving-Knife-Laminated-2-4-Inch/dp/B082BGW96W

>>4398983

>>4384004
I fucking hate being a neet in central california
I want to go back to Los Angeles and attend the community college I was attending there, they actually have really good art classes taught by industry professionals emulating the art center curriculum

I'm only now beginning to realize how important the social aspect of education is, especially in the arts, I hate learning to draw alone

Doing everything I can to get a job in the LA area again and leave this hellhole of a region called central california

Hate living with my parents

>>4399050
What’s your goal? Concept artist?

>>4399053
Sort of, I've been looking into illustration, but the design aspect of conceptart really appeals to me, especially when it comes to drawing cars, which is a skill even many professional illustrators have trouble with

Also pro tip to anyone who is thinking about attending FZD or some other expensive non traditional school

Don't, just come to Southern California in the Los Angeles area, and take your pick of community colleges because they're staffed by industry professionals who emulate the curriculum of the big expensive schools

I really want to start going back to school there again, even if I have to live out of my car, it's still better than being nagged by my mom every other day about how I'm a failure at life because I'm not working at google

>>4398963
pyw

>>4398983
>It's called social isolation
Thanks! I've learned something today. It's great to be able to put words on feelings and thoughts.

I think I've finally come terms with the fact that I won't kill myself.
I'm just going to keep drawing and drawing no matter how bad life gets or how much I doubt.

>>4399460
Congratulations, what do you want to draw the most?

OHHHH GOOOODDDDDDDD ITS MY LAST DAY OF MEDS YOU FAGGOTSSSSSS!!! IM BACK BABY AND IM WILDER THAN EVER!!! JESUS CHRIST WHO KNEW?!5 THE ANSWER IS NO MEDICATION AT ALL! MY GOD! MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING WITH IDEAS! MY PHONE FULL OF INSPIRATION! MY HEART FULL OF HOPE! MY EYES ARE CLEAR, no brain fog, I'm abrosb8ng new concepts and techniques a mile a minute. were meds holding us back?! bipolar disorder is truly a gift from the gods.

Why even try anymore its obviously apperent im too retarded to improve. I really dont find drawing (or anything else) enjoyable just frustrating and agonising constantly making garbage after garbage after garbage.

>>4396512
same

>>4399822
Until you hit the depression phase and then you dont draw for 3 weeks straight

I'm always going to be an artfag. Tried programming and web dev for a few years and hated it. Tried working in cybersec, never felt I knew what was going on and didn't enjoy learning it. Tried making short films and movies for Youtube, but I hate my fucking voice and ran out of ideas eventually.

Always returned to art. Feels right, and its the only thing I've impressed people with. Just have never made a cent off it which is what turned me off doing it for years. Need to focus on staying afloat.

Want to just practice and git gud at art all day but the looming dread of not being able to pay bills worries me.

I'm sad :(

>>4397989
If a person finds any art problematic their following doesn't count. A friend of mine lost 20% of his followers few weeks back just because turns out he said nigger on discord for 700+ times. Those people follow you not because they like your art but because you're a good goy who draws not what he wants but what others want. Also never apologize.

I fucking hate artists. They're so stubborn, snobby, and simple minded. They also make art but aren't even aware of what they're making. Modern art is also degenerate as fuck, and what artists need is step outside of their world and acquire Logos

>>4396521
Wew I wish I 2D waifu would talk to me like you did to this anon

>>4387961
same here, fuck that guy

I've been bouncing back and forth between quitting drawing all together or keeping it around to try and make something of myself.
It's been this way for far longer than I'd like to admit, and so I've stagnated.
I initially tried to git gud back in 2014 (though I've always wanted to excel at drawing throughout my whole life; been lurking ic since 2011), and although I didn't give it the full attention it deserved, I did make some gains in that time.
I never "made it" though.
Instead, I got too caught up in comparing myself to others and told myself over and over how I didn't have what they have.
I still feel like even if I continue to try, I'll end up being some cheap, down-graded copy cat of those who have heavily inspired me; I'll always stay mediocre.
It also doesn't help that I'm getting older now. Seeing so much talent and success by those 6 to 8 years younger than me is a huge slap in the face. I'm in my late 20's now and can't shake this feeling that maybe I've outgrown this and should move on. By now, I should of really had something artistic going for myself, but it's still a fantasy.
Now it just seems like I've wasted several years and have missed my chances.
I wish this never-ending curse would lift and I could draw for myself with content and a sense of accomplishment (and maybe a modest following).
I didn't draw anything in February.

CRITIQUE MY WORK REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4394390
Don't, they are jewish lies

>>4400112
not everyone's mental illness is the same

Three weeks since burnout, haven't drawn anything and I don't know how long it will last.
Would give my left arm away for the knowledge on how to get out of this.

>>4384004
Not art related, but
I threw away all my chances with the girl i was seeing and was completely and utterly in love with after i fucked my exgf
Who is now back with the guy she cheated on using me
I'm Costanza, lord of the idiots, and this month has started in the shittiest possible way

>>4401304
draw your penis and post it for me.

>>4401304
What made you get burnt in the first place?

>>4401343
I drew every day for 4 months or so, even though I didn't feel like doing it. Felt I was improving but not as much as I should've been. Now picking up a pen feels like a waste of time.

>>4401366
Did you draw for many hours each day?
I used to get burnt constantly, but I also almost always only drew during my free time.
If that's your case, try to manage your time a bit better.
Despite what you may read around here, grinding will never solve any problems.
Anyways, many things may recover you from this burn. In my case it's always seeing artwork by other people. I start to get the itch to create and soon enough I'm picking the pen again.

>>4401374
Yea I would spend many hours struggling to draw something, sometimes entire days.
I also took break from browsing /ic/ so maybe that I'm back looking at others work might be positive thing.

I've accepted that i will never be a good artist but I'm happy this art piece i created a few years ago. I just want to share it with /ic/ before i fade away.

I feel like I'm wasting my time by not focusing on some kind of big cool original project, but I've never been able to start anything because I have no idea what it would be about. I don't think I have any artistic voice, I can't think of a single interesting or uplifting thing to say through my work.

I already have some characters of my own but I'm terrified of doing anything with them apart from pinups and one-off gag comics. It's fun but the lack of emotional fulfillment has been wearing on me for ages. I want to turn them into something more important, but that pressure to not waste them on something bad, coupled with the aforementioned lack of thematic clarity, makes committing to any shred of storytelling seem like a horrible idea.

So instead I just keep drawing meaningless stuff and letting all my shitty story ideas evaporate before they amount to anything

still no job
art still not good enough to do commissions
mom getting tired of my neetdom
increasing suicidal thoughts

>>4401418
What kinds of books do you like? Think of your favorite stories and make up a character who could live in that universe, draw them. Think of something really cool or really awful that happened to you, illustrate that. You can't make emotional or interesting work if you never practice it.

Take a week off from drawing and do some writing. Outline a short story. Nothing is easy, especially creating your own IP. This is why so many people do fanart.

anyone else see themselves as a brainlet and the only way you can confirm you're not a mental retard is if you can validate yourself through art? school/stem is not an option, it's either art or i'm a meathead

>have idea for original art piece/character/anything
>next to no following
>dont want to post it in fear of someone bigger than me stealing it and me not being able to do shit about it since im a nobody
reeeeeeee

>>4401470
depends do you draw anime

>>4401422
pyw

>>4401422
based neet, get drawing and make it
pick up /dad/, they're nice to talk to

>>4401396
why would you quit when you still suck? keep going until you dont and then you can happily fuck off

>>4401422
Gonna have to get a job there buddy.

It's ok to have a day job that you're not fully committed to. I went to school for computer science and got a moderately comfy job right out of it. Pay isn't anything special, but it isn't that stressful and I am able to live fully independent in a small apartment. Stay single, cook your meals in advance, don't go out unless for exercise, and you'll have plenty of time to draw.

>>4402730
Okay, but are you good enough for commissions or not?

>>4402734
Probably.

>>4397989

>Post loli on my profile
>Top viewed and liked content

Can't do it because if my gf ever finds my porn blog loli will instantly end our relationship. It sucks because nobody gives a shit about anything else I make.

>>4402762
Yikes, imagine being this good and in this shit of a situation.

my tinted glasses keep messing up my perspection of colour, and im too poor to get new non tinted lenses

I wish I had art friends. I used to be in a small discord with other artists that also sucked, and it was great, and fun, but I left because I am an idiot. It's impossible to make art friends when you're older, every group I try to go to is full of 13 year old girls. I just want idiots like me to post art and stupid shit back and forth with.

>>4402762
You making any $ off that exposure? How much attention are we talking about here?

Maybe people only pay attention to your loli art because the rest of your art doesn't stand out and coomers just want to coom.

Don't know why you would want to dedicate your artistic skill towards loli coomer art anyway. Probably a shit market and incredibly niche. Just draw furry porn like a normal degenerate.

Or you can just break up with your girlfriend if loli art is that important to you.

Not art related stuff, but as a transfer at an art school who’s overall rather socially isolated and periodically going through depressive episodes, I can’t shake the feeling sometimes that i can’t be headed to a good place - I’m not gonna kys myself or anything, because aside from art, I know from experience what kind of pain it would bring my family, but I dunno - ironically I feel great about my art progress, just can’t kick depression.
>>4402784
Maybe you could use that to your advantage in terms of your personal style or composition, like have that be a running feature in colored pieces to feature a constant tint, though I guess that would be a bit harder for IRL paints - how well can you see without glasses?

Stopped reading this shit board and started Just Drawing™. I've long dreamed of writing a cool comic, but retardedly decided to wait until I was "skilled enough" without actually determining when that would be. Dropped that gay idea and just started storyboarding it even though I'm still complete trash. Immediately I'm improving, and I'm having a great time.

Cultivate your ideas into an actual concept. Make your own methods as you go. Stop thinking hyper-competitively.

The more time you spend on this board, the less you're thinking about whatever creative ideas spurred you to draw in the first place. If you're serious about manifesting your idea in reality, it just becomes a matter of willpower. Your skill will literally *inevitably* improve with mileage if you are passionate about the concept of your art.

>>4402868
>Your skill will literally *inevitably* improve with mileage if you are passionate about the concept of your art.
I like this line. Although, it's kind of a talent in itself. I think a lot of people don't have this concept and so they don't understand how to get better. It's easy for us because by drawing we just do.

>>4402640
Okay Anon, I'm gonna keep drawing.

Holy fuck man, some of you need a lot of help

either draw anime tiddies in photoshop or don't...

it's simple, people look at the work and either like it or don't...if you have to brow beat someone into thinking you're a genius with artspeak then your work is shit, it's just utter shit

I can talk art with PHD candidates, I'm a grade 9 art school drop out, yet I read more, watch more and know more because I simply WANT to, I choose to, this is all I care about, I know more about what's going on in the art world and the artists who are selling out in NYC at hauser wirth than they do...because I simply care more, I can talk about oil paint with the head of art at the local college and get told I know a lot about technical painting because I've mixed everything possible with oil paint and painted with it and it's all stuck on my basement floor. Just slop that shit on canvas, paper, mylar, whatever you got and remember what happens so later on you can take that and use it when you're actually good/getting better

I know Ashley Voss runs the Voss gallery in San Fran and it's not even a year old yet, I know hank fried egg likes to write and sand his overly gessoed canvases because it's "luxurious" I know that sedrick chishom cares about archival quality art supplies and if stuff will rot I know Tali Lennox went dark after her boyfriend drown I know chloe wise used to paint tampons. I ask, I send DM's to everyone I care to, I am polite and say thank you. I talk to art advisors and collectors of work about matthew wong's estate because I care enough to ask them. I check out website of artists I like, I ask them questions, I read their CV's and see where they've shown, I see how their art has changed over the years and how quickly it has. I then ask them why they changed their work or how they started with it or what they used to make it. I simply find out as much as I can, and then when I need to know more and it's not there I go right to them and ask...

continued...

>>4402881
I literally know one MFA grad who is normal as an artist and person

he had 4 solo shows in one year and 4 group shows, Asia, UK, NA, Scandinavia the guy literally showed around the world

he doesn't beat his head against a wall worrying about the academic bullshit critiques all the other MFA grads I know do...he doesn't fuck himself with conceptual art, he doesn't artspeak, he paints what he feels and what he wants and what he sees

the rest of them have their heads so far in their asses or the sand trying to make obscure conceptual paintings that they're ignoring the fact van gogh used to simply paint what he saw each day and let the art filter through him, he simply painted everyday, he painted what god gave him to paint, he didn't fuck around with no bullshit

stop the academic shit, take what you need from it when it comes to technique then get as far away as possible

think of art the same as music

jimmy hendrix doesn't have a MFG a masters of fine guitar....taylor swift, bieber, cher, madonna, thomas bangalter, adele, elton john

none of them went to school to be taught how to be THAT good at music

art is literally no different despite what the academic art world will try to tell you, it's either in your bones or not and the only way to get better is to do it

on that note, freddy mercury sounds like freddy mercury, your style is your style, just do what you want to do and you're going to be you, your "voice" will always sound like you so embrace and accept that

practice and get better for sure, but don't get stuck being afraid of not being good enough or as good as you want, nobody has to know you don't like your own work, just get it done, let others figure out if it's any good, like warhol said

>>4402821
I can see ok close up like reading a book. But my depth persepction is basically shot

>>4384004
I'm on the college probation contract where one D will end my 4th year at the damn place. One class is going so poorly that my death sentence is already signed.
What's life like in Vegas bros? Sure as hell not dealing with California once mum loses her marbles.

>>4402949
what degree and what happened

>>4402952
Computer Science. One semester of not so stellar grades and here's your email.
I'd take the L but the classes are not only worthless with none teaching HTML, but assignments that are largely disjoint from the lectures too.

>>4402957
>classes are worthless because they don't teach HTML
So I can see why you're failing your computer science degree.

>>4403190
Okay but I need to crash this plane, with one survivor.

seeking validation from stranger's on an anime image board here
this is the stuff I did last year (not including misc stuff and doodles); I gave up drawing for good around August after trying Keys to Drawing and Draw A Box, the latter killing my passion for drawing nearly entirely

I only ever wanted to get into drawing to help visualize my ideas and supplement my writing, and never really cared for making a career of it, so very basic illustrations was my goal
fast forward to February when I picked up Dreams (game/art/music making tool) and I've been making the stuff I've been thinking about for ages, finally getting my ideas out
although in the back of my mind I feel like what I'm doing isn't 'valid' somehow, like I'm cheating and the 'no rules just tools' thing doesn't apply
am I just being a fag?

>>4403417
here's some of the stuff I made in Dreams; for what it's worth I'll be drawing the stuff I've made in here so I can stylize it and such
I just have a much easier time making stuff in 3D from my imagination and going from there

>>4401304
Dude.

Go and draw a single line. Right now.

And then go back to doing whatever you was doing prior.

>>4402949
There’s only one thing left to do anon. Stand up in class and give a speech about how much the professor sucks and why they should curve the class. Believe in your brothers and sisters.

im spending more time cooming than drawing

>>4404061
i don't understand you coomers. how can you sit and watch porn every day? doesn't it get boring? why can't you just find a girlfriend?

>>4404097
>everyday
more like all day
no it doesnt its a challenge when you try to make your flaccid coom.
>why can't you just find a girlfriend
>3dpd

>>4404061
Start fapping exclusively to your art, problem solved

>>4404101
im not cooming to my own art, its too bad to coom to

>>4404100
get some professional help, anon
don't you want to do more with your life than beating it to waifus and smelling like dick cheese?

it's over
its finished
it's done
bpd anon here today was my last day of mood stabilizers. I'm experiencing a surge of creativity, stories, characters, ideas, and a little bit of that hopium.

>>4404135
hope the best anon and go ahead, several steps ahead from now, there is no time to lose.

>>4404114
>dick cheese
anon the jews... they already...

I proposed to commission my friend and she stated that if anything we should art trade. The peice she's making for me is top notch and I feel a little overwhelmed since I'm nowhere near her level.
I'm super nervous about making her peice but am stoked on how her end is turning out.

>>4404395
Based friend. Must be nice to be a femnon who can be friends with good artist

>think fundie grinding is dumb, I'm gonna draw shit I think is cool instead
>okay what should I draw
>can't think of a single thing to draw at my skill level (not even /beg/ tier yet, I've only put in maybe 10-20 hours)

i don't like to do landscape. Doin it

>>4404484
It's okay, a couple hundred hours later and it's still the same.

>>4404398
what's stopping you, anon? there's an art buddy thread going on right now

>>4404484
If you have less than 100 hours of draw experience, I recommend you do copy studies, look at images you like and try to redraw them so that you at least work on your skills even if you don't have the imagination to start something brand new yet

>>4384004
I don't feel I'm getting better at art despite trying to draw every day. Is it really just grinding fundies?

>>4404484
I'm legit you, I used to go to request threads to get ideas but realized that it's the same 5-8 people spamming multiple requests on repeat each thread and it's always the same "draw X but nude or in Y's clothes" it gets painful real quick.

>>4384004
>came up with a funny pen name with a subtle joke
>google it next morning
>there was a fucking painter with exact same name two centuries ago
Cheeky cunt

>>4404484
dividing ideas by "required skill level" is a lie, actually. You can draw whatever the hell you want, no matter how good you are.

In fact, the more /beg/ you are the more you should take advantage of not knowing your limits to do the most ambitious shit you can think of, at least you'll have fun being bad that way

(I promise I'm not just saying this to convince myself)

>>4405153
I want to draw people.
I'm not going to draw people when I've just barely figured out how to draw something as simple as a mug.

>>4405260
just draw people, your first portraits will suck no matter how much time you spend drawing mugs in preparation. if you keep tricking yourself into thinking you have to earn the right to draw what you want, you'll just end up hating art like all the other crabs

>started posting drawings daily since last month after returning from a 3 month long hiatus
>gained only a few more followers than without posting anything at all
I knew things didn't look too well, but I wouldn't have expected it to be this bad haha.

>>4405904
At least you're not losing followers for posting drawings

Never feel like im doing enough, it eats away at me if i try to do something else. My sessions are at around 12 hours now, if i dont have classes, can be up to 20

>want to draw
>keep playing monster hunters gu
Monster hunters wins again

>look at some cool concept arts online
>think about my own art and how I literally cannot finish a design because it just revolves into nonsense and how my art is generally pretty mediocre
>realize I started too late, never had the talent, will die of starvation or flip burgers and never have time for drawing again once college is done

Just tonight I tries to create a transformer that turned into a dragon, gave up after massacring the first mode and realizing at that point it literally just did not work
How do I stave off the black pill, should I just let it consume me and become an hero and a real human bean

Whenever I finish a piece or am working on something and I show my bf it truly feels like he doesn't care about my work. :(

I don't think that I am ngmi at this point, I like my work and seemingly so do others. But it doesn't feel like he does. And his opinion is taking priority in how I feel about my work, too.

Just lately makes me want to delete everything and start over, I'm not sure.

Fuck this. For now.

I’m young. I’m 21. I’m going to take a fucking break from drawing and save my money for therapy instead. There is no point in learning to draw when I suspect I have a lot of undiagnosed cognitive disorders working against me as well as depression.

I don’t draw. I just lay in bed and do absolutely nothing all day except YouTube videos perhaps.

I think about suicide but my Art projects drag me back into the world. I think about politics and it convinces me to kill myself instead.

I can’t even pick up the fucking pen and draw. It is that bad. This site also isn’t helping. It’s clear that I need some form of firm guidance, and that there are many other things about me that I need to understand about myself before tackling Art. I need to take this detour. It will help me.