/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4403399
it's a meme desu unless you get one of those fuckoff huge ones

>>4403402
I planned on getting a 20 inch huion or xp-pen

>>4403399
Depends on your set up.

>>4403408
I have a late 2016 imac with photoshop, having a screened tablet would let me use my mac as a second monitor to use for reference and such.

>>4403399
I've been using a shitty bamboo pen and touch for like 10 years. the pen tip doesn't work so i just draw with the eraser. I remember when i first started it took about a month for my brain to properly adapt to looking at the screen while drawing somewhere else.

So here's the deal about screens though. I had a friend who actually had like a high end wacom 24+ inch or whatever the fuck. i was excited to try it out but when i did i found that there was a huge ass piece of glass separating the pen tip from the actual screen. and so there was still this really strange separation of where i was drawing compared to where the drawing actually was except this time it was way more close. somehow this just annoyed me more than when i learned to use my cheap ass tablet. wacoms cost like 2000 fucking dollars and I got my tablet for like 10 bucks on ebay.

I haven't fucked with those tablets since and just stick to my bamboo. it really doesn't matter at the end of the day what you use as long as the shit works. worst id worry about is pen sensitivity range.

>>4403421
You can get a screen tablet for $300 right now.

>>4403436
300 burgerbongs is a lot of money for some of the posters on this board, remember you are sharing this place with people who can buy an apartment in their country with just 3k USD.

>>4403399
Used a Wacom Intous 4 from 2009-2016. After 7 years of a screenless tablet, I finally switched to a Cintiq 22HD Touch.

It was definitely worth it and I'd highly recommend getting one. I felt it reintroduced 'fun' into the digital drawing process, like the simple act of using a screen tablet was just more enjoyable than using a screenless tablet and I was able to draw for longer periods. It's really a blast to be able to draw directly onto a screen, to move your fingers to jump around the canvas, etc. I have very little complaints. My Cintiq 22hd had no significant issues - I didn't notice parallax issues caused by a "huge ass piece of glass" like the other anon said, though maybe those older Cintiqs were more clunky. I can only image they got better.

A screened drawing tablet won't make you any better at drawing, but I personally found it much more preferable and it increased my productivity and I was drawing more. New Wacom tablets are expensive though - there are much cheaper alternatives that seem to be perfectly fine.

>>4403399
>Was it it worth it
Since I bought mine at like 40% of the price, and since my old monitor died, yeah kind of. But otherwise it wouldn't have been.

>did it make a difference?
Not really.

>I've read that chink tablets have a shit load of issues. I've also heard the pen pressure curve is crap compared to wacom.
They're fine for the most part, I didn't notice much difference from an intuos. But I'll have to see how long it will last.

>>4403460
This is what I was looking for. I don't expect it to improve my art. But if it can make the process of learning more enjoyable then I would be happy.

Unfortunately I don't enough for a high end Cintiq. I could maybe afford the 22 Cintiq ($999.99) with the payment plan, BUT it doesn't have a laminated screen, hotkeys, etched glass, or many of the features that chink tablets offer at a much cheaper price.

My worry is that faulty hardware, software, or the difference in the pen performance will make the process of drawing LESS enjoyable. So thats why i'm on the fence of whether to get one or not.

>>4403491
I have an old first gen Cintiq 13HD that I bought four years ago and still use today. I got around back/neck issues from drawing for long periods of time by buying a cheap baking rack from IKEA to elevate it a little and then using a box of scallop potatoes to keep it from moving. If you're really on a budget, you don't have to get the fuck huge expensive Cintiqs to have fun. I still prefer it over screenless because I work much faster on it.

>>4403399
it helps but you still have to have the drawing/art skill/motivation etc.

Everything I would draw with my intuos was always significantly worse than anything I would draw on paper and no amount of practice ever closed the gap between the two for me, but what I would draw on my 12.9 iPad pro pretty much was out of the box just as good as paper. There's a little bit of a learning curve with the skating on ice feel that comes from drawing on a glass screen, but now I love it and find the friction of paper kind of uncomfortable

>>4403843
>Everything I would draw with my intuos was always significantly worse than anything I would draw on paper
So a screen tablet WILL make me a better artist?

>>4403874
I have a screenless tablet and think the people saying it's the same are trying to scam us out of gains. Screenless is garbage compared to paper at least.

screenless is better because then you can play OSU! with it

>>4403399
>screenless
>save up for a 13in screen
>buy screen
>too small
>constantly looking at my monitor when i draw vs my new 200 display
>too small

AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAaaaa

>>4403399
I just got a lot faster and closer to my trade style.
So yes it's worth it
Xp Pen 15.6 pro when it was 300

>>4403399
>>4403491
Do you really have to call people 'chinks' anon? I'm sure you're perfectly capable of asking your questions without being needlessly racist

>>4403903
shut the fuck up and eat your bat soup, chink

>>4403399
>Was it it worth it,
Yes.
>did it make a difference?
No.
I just like it better this way.
Cintiq 27

>>4403399
I started with a bamboo wacom create ages ago, and it still works perfectly fine. It's immensely useful how much abuse it can take considering I've basically dropped it on every possible occasion, as well as used it as a trivet/food holder.
Anyways, I had a chance to switch over to a larger screen tablet and the experience was average at best. I didn't really like the color difference from the screen but that's probably because I got a shitty cheap one. It was also a little awkward switching from looking up at my monitor to looking down on the tablet screen.
Also got an ipad pro, which is pretty comfy. A lot better than the cheap display tablet, but I still find my wacom the comfiest. Useful for going outside though.
Have tried Cintiq as well, but I dunno something about the posture change made it less comfy.
>Was it worth it?
Probably not, I still use my non-screen one more than my screen one. If you travel a lot it'd be worth getting a portable one.
>Did it make a difference?
Not really. If you're already used to lining on your screenless tablet there's not really much motivation to switch over unless you just want to have more fun or whatever.

I'd suggest just finding somewhere you can try the tablet out or like buy it off amazon and refund it since they're lax about it.
Would not suggest any other not-tablet devices that have drawing capability if you're thinking about it because they're usually kind of ass (Samsung Note, Microsoft Surface, etc). Just get something MEANT for drawing and incidentally has other features if you want them.

>>4403887
i know that feel brother, huion?

I had opted to get pic related and it works very well for me. No worries about essentially having 2 monitors and it's very portable. It comes with a pen which is very nice as well.

Screen tablet lets you make more precise lines and lets you save time if you work on it a lot.
Useless for beg, for beg its a toy to feel cool

did this transition 4 years ago (bamboo to cintiq). my digital drawing ability improved in this time but I think it was just because I found it easier to draw directly on screen. however i still use my bamboo quite often and there is basically no difference between when I use the two.

Basically, Anon, if you want a jump in enjoyment and a little bit of quality in your art, get one.

>>4403399
I animate frame by frame, so I don't know how relevant this will be for you. I bought a screen tablet and it's a huge fucking plus. I thought I would be intimidated by my hand being in front of the screen and being hunched over the tablet, but it's so much easier and faster to get a line that I want.

For painting or sculpting or something, I would say a non-screen is sufficient enough. I also got a wacom tablet because I'm not risking my shit on a chink tablet.

>>4403903
>chink
>in this case referring to the place a brand of tablet is made
I mean, it's racist, but they're not talking about the chinks.

>>4403491
There's this one that's $400

https://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-displays/wacom-one

>>4406746
>13 inch screen

>>4403399
When I switched from an intuos 3 to a cintiq 13 hd I thought it made a HUGE difference. I just felt like I was more accurate and faster especially when it came to doing line art (which I did a lot of).

Now the thing is, I've had both amazing and terrible experiences with wacom tablets. When they work, they're perfect and you'll never want anything else. But in the last year and a half I had such an awful experience with their Mobile Studio Pro 16 and their new hardware design for all cintiqs It really made me lose faith in them.

On the flip side, I've used a cintiq 22 hd at work for the last 3 years and holy FUCK it's such a great tablet. It's not very high res compared to modern monitors but it makes up for it by being sturdy and reliable. And you can probably get one for pretty cheap these days.

I wish I had experience with other brands of graphics tablet but I don't. I'm a wacom shill. All I want to say is that if you are willing to get a big tablet, I'd HIGHLY recommend the 22 HD. The newer tablets all have thin glass that flexes underneath your palm even with slight pressure which damages the pixels underneath and after a year you'll have a zillion dead pixels. Not worth it imo

>>4403399
It was worth it, but it comes with it's own down sides as well. Generally it boils down to: I sketch a lil faster and it feels nicer, but it's harder to transport and I can't draw leaning back

>>4403399
You'll never get the same level of control and organic appeal with digital that you can achieve with pencil on paper, and digital sketching is also far slower. I strongly suggest figuring out your composition and shapes traditionally and only moving on to digital for the execution, and at that point it really doesn't matter whether you have a screen. What you want is directional tilt and, if your budget allows for it, tip rotation.

>>4403903
Nice sentiment anon. No need to resort to base behavior just because imageboards are anonymous.

>>4403906
Please help make this a nice board instead of a hostile one friend. This isn't /b/.

For screen tablets you'll need a good setup to not break your neck after using it for a day. Yes, it can be faster for lineart, although there are faster ways with clipstudio through curve line tool + snap toggled on + editing thickness of the line with their editing tool if you care about thickness variation (I don't, no one notices it if your lines are pretty thin and the image is colored).

To me that's an unnecessary luxury item, I prefer a better monitor over any screen tablet.

>>4407218
stfu nigger

>>4407290
I remember being an edgy twelve year old as well :^)

>>4407314
sadly i don't remember being a redditor