/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4398438
oh no no no

>>4398438
work everyday
excersise and study in mon-thursday
master study in saturday
read book in friday
fixing ocd
try apply theory in work
fix work
make original stuff with reference if i get idea

that's what i'm doing now i don't have interest in gmi or make money it just one of thing i do
art is experiment and experiment is fun

I wish I could draw. Or write a joke.

from imagination trying to place self in the scene

some DS work

>>4398487

>>4398438
lol thanks.

>>4398487
>>4398489
damn those are super cool, gj! My fav is the garlic, love how you did the roots and implied form on the shadow side.

I’ll just leave this here...

>>4398443
nice job

>>4398443
Looking good, are you going to color it?

>>4398523
Pretty jealous of you and how many (you)'s you got. You make me feel like all my studying and spending so many hours on one piece are wasted.

>>4398523
try learning your fundies.... ugh

continuing

>>4398443
very nice! did you use a ref?

>>4398443
this is what all your faces look like

>>4398606
This advice is never helpful to anyone.

>>4398717
Holy shit you're right
How can he recover

My first really "big" person I got in figure drawing today. I really wasn't feeling it today or are fat people harder to draw if you haven't before? Just never seemed to come out right. Anyways been trying to pay attention to proportions. Let me know my biggest mistakes I know I suck.

>>4398840
The shading on the breasts was bothering me.

>>4398443
I like it asukafag, keep it up!

god i wish i had even the slightest clue of what the fuck im even doing

>>4398872
You should just learn from Asukafag at this point.

>>4398872
Why is her pussy smoking

>>4398885
I dont know how to work colour or brushes

>>4398443
>>4398486
>>4398487
>>4398489

Leave beg

>>4398872
Are you retarded? Even the most beg person knows you don't use black for shadows.

I'm trying

>>4398918
Soul.

>>4398898
>are you retarded
Yes

>>4398872
holy FUCK anon, you're still working on this hot garbage , god damn that's ugly.
Finish it please and in 3 years time when you're good it will make you laugh

>>4398533
this it's cool.

The pelvis area is a disaster and I have no idea how to fix it, I guess lower body construction is the next thing to work on. Other proportions are also off, turns out that "sounds easy, I'll just eyeball it" is not a good approach when the last time you've drawn was twenty years ago.

Is picking up painting a good idea without a solid grasp of anatomy, or should I go back to the Loomis mines? Is there a recommended tutorial for the semi-realistic painting style Western smut artists use nowadays?

>>4399016
That looks surprisingly good for skill from twenty years ago.

>>4399021
He is a forty year old man

>>4399024
>simply aging makes you better than a typical /beg/
Everyone here should just leave and do that instead of Loomis then.

>>4399021
Last time I drew was in elementary school. I'm learning from the start, it's been fun so far.

I can't make a business out of this like the whippersnappers on Twitter and Patreon, but in a couple years I want to draw the kind of porn I enjoy. Not enough female:corruption out there.

good morning, another imagination nep

>>4399010
thank you anon. it took me over an hour and i did it totally by hand. no tools.

>>4398585
> how many (you)'s you got.
I think you are mistaking me for someone else, but the amount of (you)'s here as nothing to do with skill tho. The really good anons rarely get any.

>>4398606
I am reading looms. If that counts.

Loomis? More like Coomis, am i right?

>>4399076
I love this, work on the faces and expressions and you could be the next tkmiz

What's a good toned tan sketchbook for following Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching? Is Strathmore's 400 Toned Tan with a medium surface good? I don't know anything about papers and what's good or bad for felt tip pens

>>4399113
thanks a lot, I know my faces are terrible, I can't get it right , how can I learn? (have read loomis method + hampton head section)
>>4399114
imo go with the cheapest stuff you can find , otherwise you won't be free to draw in it for fear of wasting money.

>>4399114
if you have to ask /beg/ just use printer paper

In the month of February I drew for a total of 66 hours which is the same amount as in January which in total results in 132 hours, yet almost no visible progress.
It's gonna be a long road.

>>4399132
can we see your progress?

>>4399132
what were you drawing for those 132 hours

>>4399132
>yet almost no visible progress

>he fell for grinding meme

>>4399132
66 hours is basically nothing.
It's a week and a half at a full time job. You think you're gonna be senior at any job after a week and a half?
That said you do have to practice smart, not just practice a lot. Follow the golden triangle: draw copies from life, draw copies of artists you like, draw from imagination and try to fix the mistakes you make.

>>4399132
/vent/

>>4399135
1st of January
yes I'm doing the draw a box meme

>>4399135
yesterday
practicing construction

>>4399132
i think you should do something not just out of your comfort zone because that implies difficult, but something you dont usually do. recently for some reason started doing geometric shit and focussing on perspective, moving from 2 and 3 up to 4 and 5 point perspective. and i started doing keltic knots and then instead of making them into a square i wanted to see if i could put them on a cube, which i can, and then putting those cubes into 5 point perspective, it feels way more technical and zen like than creative. drawing people is super hard for me, drawing cars is very easy. this is just technique building. its not hard, its just building up techniques to use later. things i wouldnt have even thought of doing 6 weeks ago, not because its too hard but because i never thought of it and wouldnt have known how. do something like that if youre feeling stagnant.. i dont need references for this, just time.

>>4399154
>>4399155
Ok, so you literally just started. Then what I said already is doubly true, 66 hours is nothing.
You should be spending most of your time right now drawing copies of artists you like. But don't neglect trying to draw from imagination either.

>>4399154
>>4399155
Good stuff anon, feel the form, you're going to make it.

>drawabox crushing somebody's soul
sasuga

>drawabox

>>4399175
Do you think i'm gonna stop if you fag says it's time waste?

Fuck off i'm not a faggot i'm gonna continue this shit no matter what

>>4398717
is that a bad thing? looks like a cute girl.

>>4398717
antifafu is a cutie

>>4399156
>feels way more technical and zen like than creative
it feels good to engage in autism and watch it take shape. ornament's great for it, i get it a lot on things like rumpled fabric too.

>>4398893
lol

Here's your gesture bro.

>>4399276
Based and feeltheformpilled

>>4399264
looks like a lizard's tail and hind leg but yes exactly. good job.

>>4399175
just buy an ellipse stencil you mongoloid.

>>4399173
face is ugly, chest is caved in, shoes are terrible, render is fantastic.

>>4399293
that was half of the idea; i gave him a pool of water to drink too.

>>4399295
READ THIS AGAIN
USE A FUCKING TRANSLATOR
http://cheolhweekwon.blogspot.com/2013/07/1-365-2010092020110919.html

>>4399309
Not him but can you stop spamming your shitty blog? If you want people to read it you should translate it.

>>4398438
I drew this on cloth - thoughts?

>>4399322

>>4399309
Please keep giving people this crab advice. Less competition for me.

>>4399297
i.e. polished turd.
Huh I thought drawing boxes all day was supposed to prevent exactly this.

>>4399348
The face looks like a box though, must be part of the drawabox program

>>4398717
This looks like a tranny and still more appealing than the asukafag faces desu.

>>4399323
Pinocchio is it you?

>>4399367
Yes, Geppetto

So what's the best way to go from no practice noob to figure drawing?

>>4399264
why did you draw your jizz rag?

>>4399412
Practice

>>4399412
Probably gesture drawing, just draw a circle for the head and draw a line from the neck to one of the toes based on a reference. Do a couple of those and build drawings off of them.

>>4399419
fair. Thanks

>>4399412
Literally just draw. It's not a meme.
Read the books and check out their ideas, if something works for you then great, if it doesn't then don't sweat it. Don't feel like you have to follow this art teacher's method or that one, art is really something you have to teach yourself and people tend to work out their own methods over time that work best for them.

>>4399422
huh. I just always see flowcharts or de facto flowcharts for shit and figured there was a path I should follow.

When practicing, should I draw from existing reference or purely out of my imagination?
Do I take pictures next to my canvas and start painting them until the shapes are drilled into my muscle memory?

>>4399309
>looked to see how much he progressed over his year of circles
>there was no progress

>>4399415
always channel your coom into art

>>4399424
There are lots of flowcharts out there for how to learn or how to draw certain things. If they look good then try them. If they work then great, if they don't then it's ok. Everyone learns and works in a different way, especially in art.

>>4399425
You need to do both. Pic related. It mentions anime but it applies to anything.

>>4399430
Fair. I'm one of those types that usually just draws qt girls, or at least tries to, so probably in the same coom boat.

hello, is this cute?

>>4399474
jesus fucking christ
it's like you spewed the fat clumps of paint straight out of the tube onto the paper, its way too liquidy, use less water unless you're trying to lighten up the color, even then it shouldn't be soaked
you need to use way less paint on your brush
you haven't got the slightest idea of your lighting and values
what's the point of having a lineart below if you can't stay within its boundaries and brushing over it or not inside it at all?
You have a long way to go

what do if loomis is 2 difficult 4 me?

>>4399503
Just draw

>>4399506
Okey, will do

>>4399503
keep drawing until its not

>>4399412
Have you taken Vilppu into your heart as your god and savior?

>>4399497
so it's not cute?
is this cute?

>>4399537
looks like a muppet

>>4399526
>complete noob
A who and a what now?

Legs are pretty brutal for me. They usually come out either too wide and flabby/formless or too narrow and distorted.

>>4399538
cute though?

>>4399540
All your legs look too short to me. Size them up one head size.

>>4399540
what is the urban legend of frank frazetta and why are you copying bridgeman?

>>4399537
i like it
reminds me of a pre historic muppet

>>4399114
I'm using a strathmore 400 12"x9", but really any sort of mid-tone paper should work

>>4399550
this is all boring though, where are all the cute girls ?

>>4399557
i only post fundies in /beg/

>>4399539
Go here >>4379923
download everything Vilppu
learn
thank me later

>>4399573
>thank me later
I'll just save myself time and thank you now. It's easier this way.

>>4399544
I'll give it a try. I am always surprised by how much of a figure is taken up by legs so I could have a natural tendency to make them too short.

>>4399545
I answered last thread, there's a story that Frazetta copied all of Constructive Anatomy in one evening. Which is a bit hard to believe, but, maybe...
I basically just started doing this on a whim. I think I've been trying to draw too much from imagination lately and I've been neglecting the equally important need to draw from life and other artists so I figured this would be a way of giving structure to my copying. I like Bridgman's drawings, he shows you how to think in terms of forms and give a needed "punch" to the figure.

>>4399588

>>4399643
Thx thx
Any design choices that look off?

tried twisting a reference in space,
>>4399497
did you use a book to learn to paint? It's with gouache paint , I got it today so I could start learning about color. But as you can see everything I try looks like it was from lovecraft
>>4399603
I love higurashi!

>>4399646
Her other elbow should also have a visible couter peeking
Her knee pads/poleyn should be up higher.
I would personally make her feet larger, to be consistent with her large hands.
All of these are design choices though, not flaws.

tried twisting a reference in space,

>>4399497
did you use a book to learn to paint? It's with gouache paint , I got it today so I could start learning about color. But as you can see everything I try looks like it was from lovecraft
>>4399603
I love higurashi!

>>4399655

>>4399654
Thx thx for the feedback anon

>>4399655
Can u draw without twisting?
I won't even start playing around if I can't do the simple basics

>>4399540
You have trouble with the pelvis.
Study it and understand how it connects to the waist.
Also learn the size relation between the femur and shin/tibia

I do not know how to shade. Feel free to tell me what else I'm doing wrong.

>>4399540
Be looser/faster with these drawing imo
I do these too
But I'm like up to 5 pages a day in 30 mins

>>4399666
why though?that would be so much more boring to draw

>>4399673
Shading = understanding form
Get a good knowledge of drawing like a strong foundation (form, perspective,line) and shading/rendering will come naturally

>>4399676
BC ur twisting looks wrong
Ppl who knows the rules know how to break the rules well

>>4399678
Okay thanks. I'll keep that in mind while going through books.

looks like 1 big white tooth
>>4399680
who cares? it was a quick drawing with no construction. I learned more about helicopter interiors than I would with a shitty study

looks like 1 big white tooth
>>4399680
who cares? it was a quick drawing with no construction. I learned more about helicopter interiors and others, than I would with a shitty study

>>4399173

I like the face. But these shoes are terrible. Amazing painting.

I can't into figure drawing or construction

Am i GMI?

>>4399707
oh shit it's him >>4398872

>>4399712
Actually I'm not that guy.

Ratings? I started to make digital art a couple of months ago.

>>4399701
Lmao
Good mindset
>hey this might help
>mmmm no??? Wtf

>>4399707
You should give up then. No one wants your weebshit trash anyway.

>>4399694
Why are you scared of hands?

>>4399715
post your work if you want any authority.

>>4399719
R u retarded
This is the MOST BASIC advice
DO STUDIES RATHER THAN PLAY
no wonder ur stuff looks like shit

>>4399669
What do you see wrong with the pelvis?

>>4399717
they take me too long to draw cause i am bad at them and that drawing was during work. normally i try to draw them tho

>>4399676
I hate you so unbelievably much.

>>4399714

>>4399562
>>4399603
>>4399707
Weebs need to fuck off and die

>>4399729
A lot of ur problems can be solved by learning some basic composition
A lot of stuff looks unclear and gets confusing
Not ur hands the drawing

>>4399738
thanks, i've just begun reading up on leading the eye through the page. please post your work though

>>4399741
I did just today on this thread
Im not afraid to post my work lol

>>4399725
I disagree
>>4399731
please say why

>>439974

>>4399749
Meant for
>>4399746

>>4399745
you gonna link to it?

>>4399750

>>4399755
>>4398438

>>4399759
thanks

>>4399746
Because you think that drawing something correctly the way it actually fucking looks is "boring" you god damned adhd zoomer

>>4399761
drawing it incorrectly was boring too, that's why it's unfinished and lazy. drawing from life is more fun, it's dark. wanted to draw something from imagination and referenced the image, but didn't finish and there was nothing else other than the helicopter, so I couldn't say it was an imagination drawing.

did this out of fun, thoughts?

>>4399769
U really cant handle critques

>>4399769
ditch the ego dude

>i draw bad on purpose

>>4399777
>>4399779
what the fuck? I just draw for fun. why try to make me feel guilty for not drawing something I don't want to?

what do you think?

>>4399769
That was actually incomprehensible.
Ok so you're just another schizo i need to start ignoring, got it.

>>4399786
You are doing such a GOoD job
Keep at it DUDE

>>4399788
Not bad, keep it up

>>4399786
if you drew for fun you wouldn't care enough to keep replying, thus it implies that you think highly enough of yourself to defend your shit

>>4399714
>>4399735
The second one is way better

>>4399775
comfy

What's the best place to post my shitty webcomics? Should I just make my own sight?

>>4399809
No one will go to your shit site for your shit comics

>>4399809
twitter and instagram I guess

>>4399772
I changed the eyes, is it better?

>>4399809
Go fuck yourself

>>4399817
Fuck off weeb shitter. Your art is trash and generic.

>>4399786
I mean, it is on the first sentence of the op
>please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice

if you just wanna post whatever go to another thread.

>>4399817
work more on figure drawing, her pose is stiff and awkward.

No matter how good the eyes are, number one thing on drawing people is their pose

>>4399817

>>4399836
Wrong, it's different for anime. The face is the most important thing and that means eyes. You can draw a body as well as you want but if the face is trash, you might as well not post it at all.

>>4399794
I'm not defending the image, I don't like this image and so gave up finishing it. just saying I prefer drawing anything that isn't studies, and believe only doing studies is useless. There is more efficient ways to improve but I'd rather do what is more interesting. posting what you do is enjoyable, and typing to people is enjoyable. you people misunderstand me and it's frustrating

>>4399850
lol ok

>>4399845
do you have more of this please ?

>>4399856

>>4399852
You are never going to hear the replies you want
Ppl will tell you to do your fundies if you do drawing like a photo reference
What do you want out of posting your work on the critique thread?
All ppl can say is do your fundamentals unless what u post is graphic/design/shape-based stuff

>>4399860
thanks I'm a dumb ressources hoarder and my hard drive died a couple week ago, you're doing a charity action my brother.

>>4399862
it takes 2 seconds to post something, it is habitual. Most of the time I ask something and post a sketch for the sake of it, It's nice to be able to look through the archives in months time to see everything you were doing during the time of that thread. For example I asked in that post if he used a book to learn painting

>>4399729
Those hands are pretty good so there's nothing to fear.

I drew god daim super boxes

>>4399788
>ltr
bad, med, bad, bad, good, good, med, bad, bad, bad, good, med, bad, good, good, bad, med, med, bad, med, good, med, good, bad, bad, med, med, bad, bad

>>4399836
Yeah, you are right, I am working on this. I fixed the eyes because was the only thing that I knew how to fix. Thanks.

>>4399845
Also thanks.

Color text
Opinions?

>>4399896
I got lost after the first line

anyone knows some good gore artists?

>>4399803

Thanks, it is the newest one.

>>4399914
Only Franken Fran since I read that manga and it was pretty detailed. People get cut in half and all that and it's well drawn.

>>4399707
Then find refs! Also do those poses yourself and figure out if its even possible/how you would balance in the pose.
For the sitting one, it was hard to find a decent ref because of how stiff the her upper body is, it takes some support to balance like that.

For the foreshortening I recommend drawing contours around the form to get a better feel for the direction of the body parts.

Tried to draw the seated pose you did, would love for some crit anon

>>4399927
Nice ty, I'll check that out

>>4399717
You wanna throw hands im ready

>>4399674
I tried.
I can see how going fast can actually force you to think more about the object and how it's constructed, rather than just copying the lines. If you're not giving yourself time to look at each line and get it accurate, then your knowledge of the object takes over for you (combined with the reference you're seeing of course).

>>4399817
Keep the size of the skull and placement of the hair in mind!

I fucking hate modified contour drawing exercise.
I, for the life of me, cannot synchronize my eyes and pencil to follow along.
This exercise literally gives me mini-seizures every time I attempt it.
Any tips, /ic/?

>try to render something for once
>realise you're retarded
Any good tutorials on rendering?

>>4400160
That necc

>>4400171
no bulli pls. I wasn't planning on adding anything other than just the torso.

>>4400160
Just use darker values and edges. Just get 3 shadow colors and 2 light colors with a high light.

>>4400174
thanks.

Just drew this today. I'm garbage.

just drew this today. I suck.

>>4400199
>I'm garbage.
Don't fucking call yourself garbage.
You made that.
Don't insult yourself you stupid fuck.
Let others insult you, but the second you start insulting yourself you've already lost.

>>4400201
I reposted because I forgot to resize but thank you anon lmao, thats a bit inspiring weirdly enough

>>4399173
Amazing Rendering, anon, Way better than what I can do, Hands look good, but the face and boots look kinda wonky. Do more studies on those, but you're def gmi.

Good luck

>>4400115
OK! I will do that, thanks.

>>4400203
kek

>>4399173
shoulders are narrow and fucked in general, especially her right one.
Her left foot should be facing more outwards and not straight ahead.

>>4399173
This is the type of stuff that is technically good, but lacks any kind of appeal.
What was he going for?
Is this what happens when you only focus on the technicalities of drawing?

>>4400203
lmao>>4399297
>>4400213

Loomis hands

>>4399936
>Tried to draw the seated pose you did, would love for some crit anon

Well you certainly did better than me.

Been watching baki, so wanted to try the hyper muscular style, while trying to keep a fluid body line. Would appreciate a redline to see where i got anatomy/posing wrong.

>>4399977
really nicely constructed stuff, love the rougher look.

>>4399655
got a little bit of a kim jung gi exaggerated perspective feel, really cool.

How can I get my (two left) figure constructions to look like Loomis' (far right). Exercises from fwap.

>>4399936
Yours is objectively better and better constructed but subjectively his girl is cuter.

>>4400263
>love the rougher look
Well, the look is due to Bridgman, not me. I was copying a page from one of his books. Thanks for the compliment though, I'm glad I was able to recreate the feel of his drawings.

>>4399173
Merc wip part 2

>>4400257
very nice bro

>>4400316
lol I am absolutely gonna start posting this when people tell me to pmw

today is the first day since october that i havent drawn anything. feels weird.

>>4398443

okay here is baldurs gate 3 shadowheart
ofc I copied the colors and shadows from the reference

>>4400200
Yes you suck and I don't understand why you symbol drew lips and shitty hair for the head and nothing else

>>4400444
Eyes way too fucking far apart

what are some good video course on color light and painting? i wish vilppu had some

>>4400444
Why are you replying to your own post

I made this digital paiting of my pen drive, I know it's shit. I can make mediocre shit in traditional but when it comes to digital, I'm a piece of crap. How can I become better at digital?

>>4399603
you'll make millions

>>4400561
Here is my lattest tradiotional work

>>4399750
you can't apply studies if you haven't studied. you skipped the entire first step.

>>4398670
continuing

>>4400444
you made it worse

is being a comic book artist still in demand in the west or has it transitioned mostly to animation?

>>4400600
Let's start up a western comic industry similar to manga but without brutal work hours.

>>4400648
>but without brutal work hours.
ngmi

I've been following Sycra's advice in his iterative drawing video and I've definitely been producing better sketches and having much more fun than when I tried to meticulously copy references exactly as they are. It's strange how much better my output is when I have a certain amount of "fuck it" in my attitude.

What are the most important skills in order to draw anime fanart?

in CSP how ugly would a brush look if I disabled opacity on pen pressure for it? Cause I'm trying to paint and I can't help but notice how a lot of the areas I want to color less are rather see-through. Stuff like the opaque watercolor brush and maybe the dense watercolor brush for examples, cause I wanna practice painting like in some of those timelapse videos but I don't think I have the right brush settings...?

>>4400685
Patience.

>>4398438
I've been working on my shading. I know I'm getting close but for now I like to stick to vague monstrosities because when I try to draw people I can never keep the proportions consistent. Thoughts? This one is unfinished technically but don't really know if I wanna do more work on it

I don't know what order to learn things.

>>4400863
learn how to make marks on the paper to match what you're looking at or thinking about. then learn how to make tones and then colors on the paper to match what you're looking at or thinking about.

Is /fa/ a good place for modern clothing design inspirations?

Would you consider this as an "anime" face or a western face?

>>4400843
RETURN THE SLAB

>>4400919
Hybrid

hello everyone, i need references of people walking towards the camera from a high angle

Im not even sure what im even doing anymore or should even do anymore

>>4400991
keep doing it and do it better than the next hundred. Keep it up for a few thousand references and you'll be good in no time.

Can I get advice on improving value studies? I’m really weak at it

>>4398443
this style is obviously different than yours. and im not saying you should change it. just the exectution.

my point is, you should think about which line to emphasize, and which line not to draw. maybe use 100% opacity to practice.

oi where did the loomis poster go, tell him to give me some pointers when he comes back plz. Cuz I dunno wtf i'm doing.

>>4400936
>RETURN THE SLAB
???

>>4401073
He's making a crappy undead reference.

>>4401074
Ahhh I see. Thanks for the explanation anon

>>4401073
It's a reference to courage the cowardly dog

>>4401077
I haven't seen that show in ages, I should probably try watching it again because its right up my alley

>>4398528
the saddest thing to happen when you post something is to not get a reply. I'll do you a favor by telling you this looks like shit.

>>4398438
first time drawing a dude

>>4401074
Uncultured swine
>>4401077
Based

.

Wip of the frog towergirl

Someone recommended me to try perspective and practice it .What do you think? will post refs if any one is interested in them.

>>4401033
Hey man I'm working on my values as well so take what I say more as the opinion of someone tring to figure things out too.

I assume that's supposed to be a study of the girl with a pearl earring, looks a bit like the monkey-jesus restoration, no offence.
The first thing would be to make sure that the underlying measurements go roughly in the right ballpark, if you can't do that you need to improve your drawing ability first.
Secondly identify proper shapes of value and fill them with a flat value, your values though loosely grouped have too much variation for this stage and the shape isn't clearly defined.
It looks like you're feeling your way through it instead of analysing what you're drawing.
Once you have those flat values you can harden and soften edges where appropriate and start working on variation within the value-groups.

If you're looking for resources I'd recommend marco bucci's and moderndayjames's youtube channels and ctrl+paint.

>>4401199
Thanks for the advice. I currently have no technique with this but I plan to start using Marco bucci after I finish the current video series I’m learning from.

>>4400561

For one,use bigger brushes. Keepgoing,you’ll get the hang ofit.

>>4399891
thanks

>>4401143
This looks pretty cute, but the grill looks like she is in a different perspective than the background.

>>4401242
Thanks! I will try to fix it while I paint it, I would appreciate if you could red line tho

>>4401257
I'm probably not good enough for a redline, but the girl looks as if the horizon line is somewhere around her eyeline or even lower, while the background suggests the horizon line is at the very top of not even visible.

>no one wants to bully my works so I can improve

>>4401267
Same shit, what's your work? Let's bully each other.

>>4401274
I'm >>4400584. Which one are you?

>>4401267
>been posting for some threads now and no one has bullied me either

>>4401257
Not the other anon but here. I’d just change the lilipad perspective. I don’t think this is technically correct either but I think it looks a bit better?

>>4401277
Here's mine, yeah im shittier beg:
>>4399710
Yours looks nice to me. How long have you been drawing?

>>4401295
the kindred one is soulless. you are worrying wayyy to much on making it "right" makes it rigid and soulless.

The other one looks nice from afar. but zoomed in it looks meh. but thats a good sign. unless you traced it? I think work on making deliberate lines. and if you gonna cross hatch make sure you do it along the contour of the form to give it volume. do that and post again.

How do I know when to leave /beg/

>>4399710
>>4401295
I like your minimalistic approach on the hair and face. Your proportions are way too out of wack though and makes her look janky. Don't be half-hearted with the ground shadow- either don't have it or fully place it. The farther arm is placed too low and so it looks close, which breaks her arm. All aside, not bad for /beg/
>how long have you been drawing?
It's really on and off with a sporatic timeline. Am trying to fix that though

>>4401285
>>4401260
Thanks for the advice, I was trying make her look like her legs are over another lilypad but I think I messed up her toes.
But I like how it looks with her legs underwater so maybe I will fix her like >>4401285 said!

>>4401298
Thanks for advice, here's ref.
>looks nice from afar. but zoomed in it looks meh
all my drawings are like that
>>4401303
>I like your minimalistic approach on the hair and face
I tried to copy one of Shinkawa faces, thanks for critique.

>>4401306
i know what you were going for but the way you have the legs drawn is how'd it look if she was sitting on a box and her feet were hitting the floor

to get the pose you'd want it'd take drastic changes in the leg positions. also i'd recommend turning her a bit so you can show more clearly the pose you want otherwise the perspective will be challenging af and even if done right wont look good. but your frog girl is cute. and her toe/feet position is cuteeee. sorry i like cute shit ><

>>4401301
Haha, thinking of ever eaving /beg/ you say?

>>4401267
alright im gonna be the biggest bully because i feel like it right now, what do you EXACTLY want to do? what emotion do you wish to evoke upon the viewer? is it just a way to express an urge you may have had at that point? that is important because most of the direction that an image takes while being created rests upon such desire. Now let me tell you what I think is wrong mainly with your picture; At a first glance I see that the balance and weight are not evenly distributed. To get an idea what I mean, take as reference these videos of kindred's animations (more specifically, the walk cycles) along how a sheep and a horse move

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yds9dOxZKPk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oMJCbbyiXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y07x46rKP0

Look and study the spring action that occurs at the instant kindred lands on her foot to get an idea of the balance you're seeking. Her legs are also more apart because of how easier it is to balance like that, take a look at the arrow shooting animation and try to replicate it yourself to see how it feels. That's it for now, I usually don't frequent these threads but seeing kindred made me want to jump in. Good luck and hope this helps.

>>4400584
love the upper body, pose and armor is gud.

There are some awkward tangents on the legs, and you are missing a joint at the hoof.

The upper/lower leg mainly rotate around the FE axis. Her knees may be wide apart, but since the next leg part comes backwards, the hocks should be closer together.

She feels a little off balance, like she'd tip forward.

>>4401317
Not that anon but I have been here since 2014..

no comment

not gonna answer why i'm doing this thing

>>4401301
True escape from /beg/: when you spend more time creating than learning.
Partial escape from /beg/: when you're no longer embarrassed to show people your work from imagination (this one depends on your having high standards for yourself, there are lots of kids on DA who are proud to show people their deformed scribbles so this metric is meaningless for them.)

>>4401043
>which line to emphasize and which line not to...
Which asukafag does better than you, and his lines are cleaner than yours. And her face looks cuter than that of your version. Also you unintentionally changed her expression, due to lack of skill I assume.

Never ever give critique to someone again and go practice fundies.

More of loomis’ hands ( plate 82. Foreshortening)

>>4401400
ok let me explain this thing
i'm doing this for increase accuracy of form little bit if circle is not going to center and don't have 3D dimensional form
It's a fucking garbage and i'm fucking garbage too have to do this until i can make decent one
brain is constantly saying draw like this then hand draw what brain says but coordination is not right and eye is fixing what is wrong that's how drawing mechanism works

Daily anatomy practice.

Basically my idea is to take a photo from Quickposes.com, and then deconstruct it into Loomis-style skeleton guidelines.

>>4401438
> my idea
that's roughly what loomis recommends
also extremely gay

>>4401457
I mean, I think he suggested live drawing so this is my alternative since I'm broke.

>>4401413
Getting a bit annoyed of you, ngl.

>>4398443
the chin is too pointy


>>4400444
the right eye is too big and the left is too deep

>>4401400
master study

Tried again. Idk why I'm posting it really. I just want a distraction from work.

>>4401471
rather, he recommends a doll.

>>4401549
>>4401471

>>4401515
>Nexon Plug
based

marshello

>>4401596
LOL this is like a Japanese caricature of the big nosed western barbarians.

I wan in a cafe place and tried to draw it. Any feedback? (I can post a picture I took of the cafe for comparison)

>>4401647
If you want to make it better, a few things you should do are 1)learn 1 point perspective and apply it. 2,use a ruler for your lines. 3) get better control over your line quality and shading. This Cafe is a bunch of boxes and right angles in perspective. Your fundamentals are lacking.

>>4401647
read dobson first, then robertson, keep practicing from life and thinking about how you can make your images better

start with an easy, single subject matter like a potted plant, take your time with it and focus on getting the form right and proper line quality

>>4401647
Watch peter han dynamic sketching if you have time, just the beginning.

A rectangle or a cube should be just that: a few straight lines that make a form. Every single shape in your drawing is like 30 scratchy lines that roughly make up a shape. It looks like you even scribbled over your entire drawing. Learn your form and cast shadows.

>>4401472
Your drawing skill is too bad to talk back to me like that, son

>>4401596
agachate y conoselo

>people worrying about clean lines when they'ld still be wrong regardless of quality
stop putting the cart before the horse

>>4401043
The nostrils are a bit much but the eyes look nice

>>4401672
>>4401685
>>4401695
Thank you anons. Here's a photo of the place if you want to compare (I was drawing from a slightly different perspective than this photo is taken from)

I knew i was slow at drawing but i didnt know I was THIS slow

>>4401774
Tip for you, as I mentioned before, 1 point perspective. If you trace a line from everything in this photo that is pointing forward it will all converge at a single point somewhere in the center. Use that as a guide when you draw it.

>>4401796
She's sexy

>>4401328
>>4401379
Thank you both very much, this helps a bunch. I'm redoing the legs right now

Should I just buy a drawpad and go digital? For the life of me I can't get any half decent values in with a pencil.

>>4402244
Ah nice, it automatically flipped my image from vertical to horizontal for no fucking reason, thank you Noot.

>>4401224
I followed your advice, it was easer with a bigger brush. Any books on digital paiting?

>>4402351
I like marco bucci's youtube channel when it comes to painting. I'm /beg/ but id say the next thing you should look at is edges. Having a harder edge around the outside of the picture you posted will add a lot i think

>kekfla

>>4398438

Absolute symbol-drawing beginner that started Fun With a Pencil on the weekend. Is there anything with these sucky blooks I need to immediately watch out for while I'm still starting?

Ignore the random notes. I find that writing things out helps my mind process.

>>4399132
Expect to see improvement every 6 months

>>4400584
perspective looks weird to me

>>4400584
the way the legs are bend most weight of the body would be on the muscles, instead of being most on the bones.

>>4401165
you need to learn a whole lot more than "perspective"
you draw like a 12 year old, no offence
stop the scratching, draw actual lines, study anatomy, perspective comes later

>>4398438
took it to grayscale and put some more hours into this thing.