/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

why am I better at drawing with eyes closed? opening once every 10 or so seconds to check position, but no construction lines or thought into perspective etc; and it always looks better than otherwise, at least to my preference? what does it mean?

>>4364993
I mean, obviously this is ugly picture from imagination, but it's far more appealing than the appearance of what it would be, eyes open, construction or not

okay guys
is this the right direction?

>>4365012
Her pose looks real awkward. Try to pose kike that in a mirror and tell me that's anywhere near comfortable.

>>4365012
which book are you using for the anatomy ?

>>4365034
michael hampton plus many things I saw people do

>>4365012
is this david?

>>4364993
maybe it is because you become non judgmental with closed eyes

>>4365055
I guess so, the lines are much cleaner that way,
and it's actually really fun! the images are much more interesting even if hideous- compared to my usual boring imagination chickenscratches. Will keep doing it!

>>4365061
does anyone know , is this beneficial for building skill?, it's super fun!

>>4365077
No not really.

>>4365012
very stiff. looks like you used an action figure or something. And her feet are enormous.

>>4364960
What should I fix before I move on to rendering?

>>4365102
his chest looks like an old person eating something very sour. why the fuck are those things so circular? it looks kinda gay anon, was that what you were going for?

>>4365102
tits are too round, and shoulder pad is too pointy imo.

Just wanted to give an update for Mr Happy Art Review. This is still not done. I need to add the background and 2 more characters but that's gonna take a couple days.

this was my first try at something finished, but I'm probably going to give it up. was from imagination, I don't know how to paint properly.

>>4365155
also Ignore the colors, they were just for clipping

>>4365143
also curious what you guys think about the colors on this dude's clothes. Having trouble making a decision. I'll sit there adjusting the colors for hours.

>>4365012
Like everyone said, it's stiff and awkward, try to draw something you could realistically perform yourself or draw from reference
On top of this, don't be sloppy, nail down those forms and how they interlock don't just gloss over it with a multitude of lines show u understand it for real by making it clean and you might realize you don't get them as much as u think u do. Once you can interlock 3d forms in space with no overlap or line messiness it'll be 10x better

>>4364960

I'm leaving. this place is turning into reddit.

I asked this last thread but no one replied I'm working on perspective and environment design and I'm confused about how one is supposed to add detail, I see great sketches of buildings and environments which seem to ooze texture but if I try to draw every brick it obviously looks like shit, how to
A. Add texture properly by line or by shape
B. Scale figures in 2 point perspective
Thanks

okay i tried simpler forms
this is really difficult

>>4365238
Unironically looks better.

Fuck me anon

>>4365183
m8 built a few more walls before you worry about how to texture them. youve got a start here. as for figures i mean... the same rules apply to humans as anything else in perspective. i generally advise drawing people are boxes in situations with tricky perspective. use horizontal landmarks. the eyes, shoulders, tits, hips, knees.

try something and when you mess up we'll correct you.

>>4365258
i could fap to this

>>4365012
It looks fine to me.
I dunno what those people saying it's stiff and awkward are on about.
The only thing that was said that makes sense to me, is that the feet are too large.

>>4365282
>enters the dibujantehomosexual

>>4365141
Shoulder pad stays, but does this help?

>>4365275
Make that pose and take a pic.

>>4364960
Crits pls, having some trouble getting the wings in correctly

pls rember that wen u feel sad or ngmi
never forget ttimes wen u likeded drawing

wen day is dark alway rember happy draws

>>4364960
probably instead of having a cock, have a pussy for bleeding, bassoon

>>4364960
here I leave you my whores, anon

>>4365558
shut the fuck up retard

>>4365556
doggy face

How am I doing?

>>4365012
who is this character

When it comes to drawing from imagination how do you know what you want to draw?

>>4365556
tried to fix it some more
>>4365609
wdym?

>>4365626
What? It's called having an imagination, I guess you don't have one.

>>4364993
Because you're trusting your instincts. You're putting down your lines with confidence.
Interesting way of going about it, I must say I'm intrigued.

Some Lisa characters. Kinda messy but I focus more on proportions I think

>>4365626
you don't. you make it up on the spot because it takes less effort that way.

Sorry for phone posting and poorfag posting both at the same time.
I've never done a landscape before but I decided to just go for it and try making a sketch of something. I did this on the spot so I don't have any form of reference photo to show to anyone.
I want to try making this into a complete drawing. Does anyone know what I should look into doing next?

>>4365640
>Does anyone know what I should look into doing next?
Get a lamp.

>>4365638
I just seem to end up with messes like this that way.

>>4365645
Sorry I only have the basement light.

>>4365648
that's why you got to learn the secret technique: Kill em in one hit.

It's where you learn to draw without using reference or guidelines or proportions, getting it right the first try with a pen. Once you know how to do that for all the basic stuff, it's pretty easy to come up with things on the spot.

Don't do stuff that makes you uncomfortable, just do the first thing that works. And it has to work btw, as in look good. You should try to make it come out right from the beginning. So long as you do the first part right, the rest should come out right.

>>4365614
can someone please respond to this, I want to know if I'm doing well

How do I know when should I leave loomis and go to vilppu next?

>>4365733
there is no actual route for learning this stuff. you could do it all from observation if you wanted. just do both simultaneously and try understanding bridgeman too

A Corona chan and a photo study I did.

>>4365791

>>4365791
>>4365792

resize ur art pls, jeez

>>4365792
im gonna need name on that girl whos the chick with the massive milkers

>>4365806
If only my dude, if only

trying to get myself out of the habit of drawing characters standing, facing the camera and looking slightly to the left with more dynamic poses/perspective

It's difficult as hell for me but I'll take any advice

>>4365823
Fuck how do I get as good as you? ;-;
How long have you been drawing?

help

Blahblahblah anatomy/proportions/blahblahblah.

>>4365638

any decent artist would say you at least to have a clear idea of what you want it to be. a blank mind will produce shit.

How do i make the ruffles on the sleeves look less retarded. Also how do indicate there is thigh muscle but more subtly without a harsh line

>>4365879
Probably understand what makes those ruffles and proper anatomy.

>>4365829
I've technically been drawing for a while but in spurts every few months

which is why I'm stuck in this intermediate/beginner limbo

I never fully learned the basics so right now I'm watching Marshall Vandruff's perspective course and trying to apply some of it to figures

>>4365628
look at the shoulder line

Stop Studying, Start Copying

>>4365862
first just draw a box, you can do that, right anon?

>>4365670
I feel like you’re giving me some kind of joke advice.

>>4365968
i like this there's something genuinely p good buried under a lot of unnecessary lines, just refine your work/finish a drawing and you'll have something

>>4365823
Her right leg isn't large enough, so it looks like it's going too far to the side. If you're trying to practice perspective/foreshortening in figures always push the perspective. It'll help.

And her left leg looks broken, it's twisting too far up.

I did my best to change some stuff around, but I don't feel like plugging in my tablet.

>>4365480
> mAkE tHaT pOsE aNd TaKe A pIc
fucking ngmi. not every pose needs to be realistic. try purchasing some imagination next time you're at a grocer.

>>4365091
imagine thinking blind contour studies aren't a thing lmao

>>4365077
look up "blind contour"

>>4365012
The torso is reminding me of the bugmen from Kenshi.

>>4364960

yyyyh

i draw good on traditional but when i tried digital i suck. i just got my tablet. is it just a matter of practice?

>>4365628
Is this your gross fetish or something?

>>4366037
yes.

my lines looks muddy. how do i get those clean lines?

>>4366008
Of all the places, I didn't think I'd see Kenshi pop up in /ic/

>>4366057
Make each contour in a single stroke

How do I learn how to see?

>>4366071
Calm down and try to look through images as in, imagine whats on the other side of the object

>>4366057
step one reduce your brush size mother fucker and make single strokes, not two or three one .

if youre using photoshop set your smoothening to 30-40 if you have shaky hands

>>4366087
i get the crosshairs when i reduce my brush size. what to do?

>>4366109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLmYMfr4F4

>>4365178
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Have fun with your discord trannies.

>>4366109

when i set it lower than 8px it still has that fcking crosshair

>>4366119
nvm, solved it, turns out i just have to zoom in more on the canvas kek

Kill me.

>>4366051
yes

>>4365143
I feel like I saw this picture a while back.

>>4366035
It looks like she's about to fall over because her support leg is bent forward instead of being straight and to the side. You can't have both legs relaxed like that unless your back is supported by a wall or something.

ugh

>>4366153
damn, asuka aged like milk

>>4366153
This pose looks a lot better. The neck/torso/shoulder area looks off to me but I don't know anatomy well enough to help you with that.

>>4366134
Finish something

>>4366141
You did. That's why I said this was an updated version in the very comment you replied to.

>>4366134
>Too lazy even to kill yourself. Need someone else to do it for you.
Even death won't fix your problem, Anon.

>>4366195
Yeah, but like months ago. At some point you should ditch the thing and start over rather than obsessively touching it up.

>>4366191
Yeah, but then you guys will ask why I bothered finishing something that’s crap. I’m wrong either way so whatever. >>4366199
Which problem? Shit art or straight shota?

anyone know where to begin with digital painting?
i want to create stuff like this in the future

>>4366134
HOG HUG?

>>4366206
there's a point between doodle scribble and overinvesting time in a drawing

>>4366204
It was about a week ago

>>4366232
Jesus Christo

>>4366232
read the sticky

>>4365991
Yes but the pose looks awkward as all hell. It doesn't need to be 100% realistic but you should at least base it off real life unless you're going for some hyper stylized nightmarish cartoony thing.

Good or naw?

>>4366352
Definitely naw.

>>4366153
Do you have a granny fetish or something

>>4365991
>try purchasing some imagination next time you're at a grocer.
You can do that?

I forgot to post this when I posted her with clothes on. I had done a nude version of my older OC, then decided to put clothes on her. However, the breasts sagging that low kinda put off. She is supposed to be older at 47 but I don't really think they get that low yet. I dunno, critique me on this one. I personally like the way this and the clothed one turned out

god damn it please someone redline

OK guys just got myself a drawing tablet. What resolution should I be using? I'm using Sai if that matters.

>>4366399
FINISH A DRAWING

>>4366431
i will not polish turds

>>4366434
There's a difference between 'turd polishing' and 'actually getting to do more than a basic sketch'. I think you should do at least 1 a day where you take it further than the sketch phase, just to practice. What good are your proportions and gesturing when you can't ink and color it properly? Unless you just want to be a sketch cuck forever.
As for your latest pic, her right arm is a wet noodle, it needs to bend at a sharper angle. Arms can be broken into 3 basic pieces, two cylinders and a ball to hold them together. What you have there is a piece of elbow macaroni.

>>4365984
thank you so much anon
I find myself always trying to push a form to the side to better explain it instead of exaggerating the overlapping forms and its a tough habit to break

>>4366399
Looks like an amphibian. Fucking ninja turtle legs.

>>4365155
could someone critique this image >>4365155 since I spent a long time on it yesterday? it's the first time going in fully to do the linework like that, and on an original piece, I was preparing to fully render it but didn't know how to paint digitally properly
pic related is doodles trying to practice lines

>>4365155 (You)
could someone critique this image >>4365155 (You) since I spent a long time on it yesterday? it's the first time going in fully to do the linework like that, and on an original piece, I was preparing to fully render it but didn't know how to paint digitally properly
pic related is doodles trying to practice lines

first post.
don't be gentle

>>4366509
Pencil. Paper.

>>4366506
>typing (You)

point and laugh at the newfaggot

>>4366530

>>4366509
looks so flat man, read scott robertson and try it again,
There's just nothing to critique here

>>4366434
Then stop drawing turds.

>>4366535
Better. So is your character made of cubes and cylinders for simplified construction purposes or is it some kind of robot?

>>4366533
I deleted the post to crop the image

>>4364960
im starting to get cocky and i need some of that good ole /ic/ brand reality juice

>>4366548

>>4366550

>>4366552

>>4366554

Is it just me or all those "books for beginners" are actually "books for adepts and pros who want to get even better"

>>4366543
specifically he's pic related from Risk of Rain.
but yes, cubes and cylinders for construction. I wasn't sure at which point to call the
"base" of the drawing good and put it into the editor. Perhaps I jumped the gun. I
realize that I shouldn't waste time in an editor with something that's bad at it's core, but I have a million little shit studies and exercises and decided I needed to see something through to the end.

>>4366557
this is partially true, but thats just because you can never perfect the fundamentals, this doesnt mean that those books arent good for begginers tho

>>4366559
lmao study better then

decided to try and finish something.

i've finished lesson 1 of drawabox, should i continue with that to learn construction or is there a better way?

i changed

>>4366660
stop

>>4366672
but that other anon said to finish my drawings

>>4366660
look this nigger actually drew something more than 2 minutes sketch. too bad his knowledge of gesture doesn't compensate gap in physics hAHA
> poor girl has her center of mass unbalanced. she would collapse on the ground instantly if she was real but fortunately it's just perverted fantasy of her creator HAHA

why does asuka poster make people seethe so hard? is it cause he actually draws?

>>4366731
damn, thats one dumbass take if ive evee heard one, you do realize that style and physics do not mix right, asukanon is on the right path, is just that he is too inexperienced

>>4365791
It's lovely anon, I love it, keep it up!

>>4364960
how do i mix some propper skin tone using watercolours? i fucked up and made a girl orange

>>4366690
Which shows how worthless this thread and everyone in it truly is. If all of you got raped to death by feral niggers the world would be a better place.

>>4366764
> muh style as an excuse for unrealistic and poorly balanced pose
are you doing this for giggles or do you unironically believe in this degenerate idea?
also
> defending attention whore
ok bro hope you live in your dreams forever

>>4366785
>Look, ma! im so cool shitting on others on a anonymous Chinese flip book forum
no one is impressed

>>4366506
I think doing lines like this is so much better! I was trying to imitate pen here, so 1 layer and minimal undo - I think it taught a lot.
also,again, is >>4365155 worth finishing to completion? (composition, pose, anatomy, linework etc) . where's a quick (not cntrl paint ) simple guide to follow for rendering a drawing like this , beyond the lines stage?

>>4366785
>not knowing yhw differnce between cruty style and genuine style

retard
also pyw

>>4366800
crutch*

>>4366660
Checked and mark of the beast

>>4365238
>>4366660
>>4366399
>>4366153
>>4366035
>>4365012
no offence, and you're clearly trying hard - but all these poses and drawings are fucking boring. there's no interest, story, angle, just _boring_anime_girl#92312903 looking at something off the page in an uncomfortable position. What's the point? If you want to draw from imagination there are thousands of photos you could trace of this exact pose/angle. You're style of drawing too is just incredibly repulsive to look at (I can't put my finger on what exactly. it's too clinical? inorganic?) enough to make someone sick like the yaoi or furry style
That is my criticism of you

>>4366791
lmao third time I hear this from other anons. why do you have such similar reactions? is this NPC meme actually real
if you want to discuss asukanon's style like a civilised man stop getting triggered for no reason

>>4366807

this is a boring thread for boring drawings and the purpose is to learn the fundamentals
I am trying to learn figure drawing

>>4366800
> don't know difference
ok tell me it then I bet you are so smart you know the difference between every beg nigger's style on this board
>pyw
posting my work will instantly reveal my identity so fuck off

>>4366818
>t. someone who will never create anything

>>4366810
>stop getting triggered for no reason
how bout you do that?

>>4366818
You’re doing fine anon, keep up the good work. There’s so much crabbing in this thread that I just want to throw some kind words your way. However, be sure you’re drawing both males and females. It’ll help

>>4366793
same exercise with no reference, but using the eraser. it's a bit fucked right?

>>4366897
lmao, I just realised what I did to that hand

>>4366548
>>4366550
>>4366552
>>4366554
>>4366555

I really like these. Really nice faces. I can get a good sense of the 3Dness. You gotta work on the hair. But you're on the right track. have an ig?

>>4366853
stop supporting this skilless nigger
he's worse than others because he regularly shits out his (((art))) in this thread attracting more autists. he's just a boring crab and doesn't deserve any attention.

>>4366555
>>4366554
>>4366552
>>4366548
style is a bit unsightly right now for my taste, but definitely has potential

Couple of questions.
Do the drawabox lessons end with the animal construction?
And also, is the construction in drawabox very loose? Cause like, I'd imagine the guy would use perspective lines to build the animals but it seems loose and much more focused on feeling the form as opposed to a more rigorous method involving perspective. Am I wrong?

So I have a bit of an issue here. So I want to redo these drawings of mine. I have them scanned, but I want to redo do them digitally as well. Is it a good idea to reduce the opacity and kinda sorta trace over it? I know what the issues are with these drawings as well as some minor stuff to fix as I go. For the most part, they're really close to what I want. or is it better for me to entirely redo them and only use them as reference?

>>4366906
i do, but i dont post, since i dont really do finished pieces and cant do scans of what i draw

>>4366913
>what is a jojofag?

jokes aside, what is it that yu dont like, maybe its something i can work on

>>4366908
>skilless
where do you think we are
this is the beginner thread
yes I posted in /alt/ but I stopped for now
I've been drawing for 5 months

>>4366956
lol

>>4366793
Aka tracing poorly. Cool study bro

>>4367005
just wanted to see if it lined up and it didn't,

well anyway
im drawing ciri

>>4367005
>>4367009
I mean also, I was going to delete it but sometimes people overlay images on the reference to show the failures, so might as well keep it in

help, where do i go from here?

>>4367091
thats very cool anon, but yu have to fix the neck and the shoulder on the right, its way too low

>>4367098
if houbtake into account where the clavicle is supposed to go it could help you out a lot

>>4366206
If you never polish turds you'll never learn to polish it my philosophy.

>>4367014

ok bros
I really put effort into this one
sorry for posting so many drawings

>>4367067
2.5 hours in so far

>>4364960
How do you learn figure drawing? I've watched so many videos of people and in the title they claim their gonna teach you how to do it but they don't. They teach you a mannequin. You they tell you to learn anatomy. But how do you combine that? I like the way Bridgman breaks down the body. But where do you learn that? His books are hand written cryptic and the pictures aren't clear. I think Ron lemen seems like he understands it but he only has like 2 videos about it and I guess the rest is behind a pay wall. I can just keep doing what I'm doing and have you guys tell me it's shit but I want to know what the specific mistakes are and how to fix them. I don't want to keep doing it shittily.

>>4367136
Don't apologize.

>>4367136
>>4367136
>sorry for posting so many drawings
It's an art board. Post more desu. If anyone tells you to stop then they can get fucked.

The head looks not attached to the neck.
Needs to be angled more upward and/or go to the right.

>>4367136
>>4367144
Also needs to rotate toward the camera. Pretty sure you snapped the neck twisting the head so far

Need help improving the composition
It was kinda hard to really study the reference because I'm not so much into feet, but I wanted to try an extreme perspective like this. This is basically the rough scrabble phase so the line quality is awful besides the feet which i tried multiple times

>>4367202
Please tell me you're gonna render this fully.

>>4367067
the anatomy is a mess and her eyes dont have depth like it's not even 3D the nosebridge it's going inside her eye socket? her neck is also way too large arms are not the same lengh and her shoulders are way too close to her neck it's a clusterfuck desu familia
>>4367137
this one is better but still have the nosebridge thing and her left eye looks like its poping off her eye socket her wrist is too thin, her breast are too low too

>>4367219
After I unfuck the comp yeah, I don't want to move on until I improve it

>>4367220
wish i read that before i finished

>>4367202
the way you drew her skirt makes it look it's a really long skirt and her feets angle doesnt match her upper body

>>4367232

>>4367136
I really like this one, even if it's a little bit to gay for my taste. But you have a neat future if you keep practicing. Good luck anon

>>4367234
Arigato senpai
Call me cringe and I become stronger, I dont care

>>4366660
That's a lot better my dude. You're doing great.
Please, try to do some scenes and figures in different perspectives interacting with each other. It'll help you get better faster if you give yourself something substantial with new challenges to work around.
Try different female body types. Do some male figures too. Heck, try cartooning. Simpler cartoony figures helped me to loosen up and play around with perspective more.

>>4367202
yeah
i coomed

>>4366828
Pyw

>>4367273

>>4366807
>that is my criticism of you
Art critique should not be ad hominem.
> I dont like looking at this
Fair feedback.
>...but I dont know why
Poor critique.
Pyw

>>4367279

>>4366956
dont worry too much asukaposter, as long as you keep drawing you’ll have a special *click* moment when you realize you’ve leveled up... try new things besides asuka once in a while though. if you keep going down this road of 1 character face learned throughout your entire time drawing these past 5 months, you’re going to regret having your entire style being ruled by your asuka face. unless you want that

>>4366548
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>>4366552
>>4366554
>>4366555
There is something very compelling with these, especially the last 2.
Keep working anon.

>>4367279
Wow, this one is actually quite nice. Saving it.

>>4367309
What specifically was wrong with his other stuff? Haven't paid much attention to this thread in a while.

>>4367346
He's just got proportional issues.

I had fun with this one but I'm impressed at how much of a hack I am, kek. I just wanted to draw the guy in the middle but I couldn't find a good angle for the damn legs, so I covered them by creating the whole scene around him. This all happened because I failed at drawing some legs and said fuck it but it's nice ai think

>>4367484
Wait I know why it was impossible to fit some legs. His waist / belt like should be following the angle I created with the arms

if all you draw is anime you won't improve. (Well unless you're Asian)

>>4367539
man idk how a portion of this board is straight up braindead and just parrot things they say with no thought like this anon

>>4367546
Malding

>>4367548
oh youre a twitch zoomer, that makes sense.

>>4367555
you're not gonna say pyw or anything?

>>4367561
i dont respect you enough to get into the conversation you so desperately want so you can get your small dick shitposting energy out sorry. bye.

>>4366660
you're getting there

>>4366381
Vaginas arent on the front of the body, anon. They are at the base if the trunk of the body. The only way you would see it from the front while sitting is if her hips were rotated backwards far enough by leaning back. While sitting like this, you would only see the mons pubis (fupa area)

>>4367286
retarded post,

How am i doing?

>>4367234
is this sei shonagon?

>>4367774
what do you mean "How am i doing?" it's literally boxes, what is there even to critique?

>>4367789
You are not smart, don't you?

>>4367790
no u

can someone give me advice on shadows? I generally draw simple ones like the one on the left, on the right one I just added more colour and used the blend tool + random highlights.
should I continue with the one on the right and try to improve it, or does both versions work?
should I even use reddish/brown for shadows?

>>4367687
Ooooohhh. I see. embarrassing for me to get something so simple wrong and shows I need to learn my anatomy more. However, I will say, I never draw nudes like that. At most, nipples since I tend to draw breasts a lot, but that's legitimately like my 4th time drawing a vagina on a sketch since I always just draw poses that don't involve spread open legs.

>>4367136
The pose looks like she's using the sword to take a selfie of her butt.

>>4367774
Neat

>>4365238
What a strange pose.. picking a ref might be a good idea.

>>4367774
You shouldn't be using line tools and assistants for these, that way you end up with a good result but don't learn much.
Draw the lines with your hand and try to feel how the tip of your pen is pushing further back into the paper, feeling the depth.

>>4367801
My advice on the shadows is don't worry about it yet.

Currently the underlying drawing and her body structure is weak and no better shading would make it better, you're polishing something not worthy of polish. The knees are especially wretched and the navel crack is just, don't fucking do the navel cracks man, the abdominal vagina is fucking sickening, it's ugly, it's a meme the Pixiv low skill are learning from the shitty tutorials the other lowskills make like a human centipede.

The pink Pixiv highlights also look a bit like swollen inflamed massive fucking zits, I personally HATE the pink highlights they make, it's a bad meme not worth following. When I see a highlight outlined with pink I can't help but imagine a festering infection and skin ready to burst with pus.

>inb4 pyw
OK, i'm not the best but I guess this is something.

>>4367774
You are doing good.
>>4367887
>end up with a good result but don't learn much.
Robertson himself uses a fucking ruler for that, he's not freehanding his geometry and perspective grids.

You're supposed to learn the fucking geometry from that so you would feel comfortable doing some technical or architectural drawings like a fucking hangar with a battlemech in it with just straight lines.

>>4367891
fuck that drawing is horrifying though

>>4367896
What's wrong with it, other than elongated lower torso though?

does saturation go up or down in areas that are in shadow? ive been told both and i know what i think personally looks better, but id like to know which one is correct

>>4367899
It's complicated.
In the natural sunlight the lit areas are blasted with powerful yellow light while the shadows are getting diffused blue light so the skin would get desaturated since it's pink + blue.

But the lighting conditions might be fucking anything you might be in a red room lit with a blue lamp, you can be at a rave.

>>4367912
Awesome thank you, so areas in light are dependent on the light source, and the areas in shadow are dependent on the environment?

>>4367926
Yeah.
Look at the moon, it's a ball surrounded by fucking nothing so you can't see the shaded area at all.

If you look at any astronaut photo you can see the shadows are fulled with vibrant blue reflected from the Earth while his base tone is pure unsaturated white, but all shadows are vibrant blue.

>>4367279
zampalolis

Is this a good book for a beginner?
It’s the only drawing book I have physically

>>4367891
I guess I'll try to improve knees, the kneecaps should be more on the front and centered? as well as shadows, the point with the long navel-line was to imply a bulge/split for the stomach. I have no idea how highlights work.
if a characters base colour is very light yellow, should I use an even darker yellow/brown or does a reddish work?

why the hate on pixiv, I thought deviantart was know as the place with the worst art?

>>4367949
chicken scratching and bad perspective on the sword

>>4367964
Anything related to get rid off symbol drawing is very beneficial for newbies.

>>4367975
Ok thanks

>>4367971
>chicken scratching
Are you sure you know what that means

>>4367986
its mild but its there

>>4367986
>>4368003
forgot to attach

>>4367997
thats so cool, i love the second light source and how you play with proportions to make it look more expressive, im not sure this even classifies as beg

>>4367968
>the kneecaps should be more on the front and centered?
Yeah. But seriously study harder, if you don't know what you need and don't have a strong vision nothing is gonna come out well.
>to imply a bulge/split for the stomach.
I know, BUT a solid shadow or even worse a line art makes it look like a hard edge. Hard edge reads as if she has an abdominal vagina and it looks terrifying.
You should only do it VERY softly or just omit it if your shadows are all hard.
>or does a reddish work?
Depends on the scene, you can find orange, red or even purple shadows on the good pictures from good artists. It generally moves towards that way on the color circle, but how far is your call as an artist. You can make green skin work next to a purple shadow if you want extreme contrast.
Take a good picture and poke it with a color picker for research (don't just steal colors mindlessly though it's a study)
There's a lot to learn really, focus in the drawing first.
>why the hate on pixiv, I thought deviantart was know as the place with the worst art?
Pixiv is full of wonderful and mind blowing works. But there's also some awful shit just like on DA as well. Neither Pixiv nor DA have any quality standards or filters.

>>4367971
>>4368003
>>4368004
Perspective on the sword is fine dunno what you're talking about, and if you disagree I'd like you to demonstrate what's wrong with it.
And it's been said many times on this board before but "chicken scratching ≠ everything that isn't perfect finished linework with every stroke"
Chicken scratching is the attempt to use a bunch of short lines to create a line that you could reasonably have created with a single smooth line.
Also imo chicken scratching would have to be the rule and not the exception, you could cherry-pick every artist by zooming in on some place (like you did) where they didn't hit the line exactly right and call them a chicken-scratching scrub.

eh i feel like i ruined it by cutting too much of the top off

>>4367997
Shoulders are supposed to be longer than forearms, also no neck at all.

Other than that your stile and technique are cool, but I hate the subject.

I don't know what im doing.

>>4368060
ok thanks anon, will study leg + stomach anatomy as well as experimenting in colours.

>>4368068
You can actually see the neck.

>>4368070
That's ok. Just keep drawing. Pick something wrong in that drawing and make it better.

>>4367949
Perspective on the sword needs pushed a bit more as other anon said. But the head is improved a lot and doesnt look like it's on backward anymore.

>>4364960

did this no ref black and white gouache. any crits and yes i know ear is off im going to fix it later but besides that im calling it finished

>>4368070
Don't be afraid of drawing a big bulge with a huge erect penis staring right into your soul. Head proportion is off, arms and hands are uneven. Other than that it's pretty good

>>4367891
I don't understand why people put so much effort in the overall drawing just to draw a shit looking face.

>>4367774
dude boxes lmao

>>4368150
use ref

>>4368160
okay but is there anything specifically super off with it?

>>4368162
brows, eyes, nose and mouth look very well put together. head its too big and the ear is way off. use ref because you can do better.

I decided to finally start doing daily figure drawing and oh boy, this shit is hard. I am almost done with a course unrelated to figure drawing and I was thinking that the next course I do would be figure drawing related. Do you guys have any favorite courses/books you would recommend for figure drawing? I was thinking of doing Steve Huston`s "Make every mark count" book and maybe pair it up with his video courses.

>>4368162
Looks like Edward furlong in terminator 2

>>4367140
Help please

>>4368184
whooa holy shit that wasnt intentional at all. i guess thats a bad thing because shes supposed to look like a girl but then again that character looks like a girl too so i dont know
>>4368172
yeah i tried to wash away some of the area but i guess i didnt do enough. maybe ill just black out the area behind and take away some of the mass

>>4367140
Drawing is less teachable than a lot of other skills. You mostly just have to grind for thousands of hours and learn things through trial and error. Copying art that you want to emulate and trying to make your own works match that helps.
People on this board won't usually be able to point out specific mistakes in your work because they are also shitty /beg/s.
I think the best way to study anatomy is, draw something from imagination, identify a part of the drawing that is wrong, go look up the anatomy of that part of the body, redo the drawing but make it better this time. Studying anatomy only really makes sense in the context of drawing from imagination. That's when you need anatomical knowledge.
You literally cannot avoid thousands of hours of shitty drawings before you get good, unless you're talented (and I'm guessing you're not). There's nothing anyone can tell you that will make you draw well, you just have to practice.
Hope that helps.

>>4368202
this, learning what the fundameltals are is 10% of the equation, the other 90% is grinding them and using them out of your confort zone to not get stuck

>>4364960
I did this under an hour. Thoughts on colors and poses?

>>4367372
Chill with black

>>4368202
Stop giving out bad advice. I can draw a lot of things but not bodies at least not as well as I want yet. Just draw is a meme. Seriously don't give out advice if you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>4368354
I think you should spend more than an hour on your drawings so they don't look like shit.

>>4368191
Are u trying to cheat me again

>>4368400
You are retarded and have poor reading comprehension.

>>4368400
just draw and stop fucking complaining

>>4365862
pls stop chicken scratching

>>4368400
If you can "draw a lot of things" then why are you even asking for advice? Use the methods that you used to learn how to draw other things and apply them to the human body.

Does anyone know some type dog app that stops pop ups and other ads that direct you to another site while watching porn

>>4365862
>he never improved at all

lmao

>>4368428
Because just draw is a meme. You have to learn technique.

>>4368412
>>4368419
Just draw is a meme. You aren't gonna get better unless you actively work toward it. Proportion, gesture and anatomy you aren't gonna learn by drawing the same crappy sketches. You have to learn better methods. That's how I've learned everything I can do. I'm just asking for this specific thing. Don't act like it isn't different. Drawing cars is not like drawing people. Faces are easy for me. But I'm not happy with my way of staying figures so I'm looking for other methods. Stop giving out bad advice.

>>4368513
of course, but just knowing how something is done doesnt mean you can do it yourself, i know all the basics of boxing but i cant box because i havent put time into it

>>4368548
pyw

>>4368548
>>4368513
>>4368400
>>4365862
Why even post?

>>4368553
I never said it was. Nice job making up something irrelevant.

These threads really are shit.

>>4368723
Brain drain. Good artists who can give specific helpful advice beyond "Loomis" and "keep practicing" have no reason to post here.

>>4366008
those guys are so cute! i love the hivers from kenshi.

>>4366035
For the love of god please just learn how to draw generic anime faces, I know you're trying to draw Asuka, why not just copy her face? Doesn't have to be anything special. But your faces right now are atrocious.

>>4368723
And you're here why?

>>4366399
No one here can redline, we all suck.

The overlay method really does make darker tones look muddy.

I kinda wish I knew how to do better line-art and rendering, for example thickening of lines and understanding how and where to use it. I also want to learn how to do colouring properly, in terms of hair and softer shading, but I guess I'm focusing on proportion now. Also, as ever, hands are a challenge for me.

If someone could point me in the right direction, that would be nice.

any books or good vids on color theory? specifically pencil coloring

>>4366897
doodle, but failed the pose due to no planning

>>4368918
what do you use for the lines? a pen doenst do those irregularities

>>4368879
thats just finding the right settings, i cant help you with it because i have never odne digital, but i know tye settings is one of tte most important things in digital art

>>4368920
a cheap brush pen - with a solid tip

Think I'm getting heads, and how one line being a little bit darker than another, ruins the whole thing.

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>>4367219
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQxCMmDXYAEkC_w?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

So, the main problem people tell me is that I have problems with my fundies.

What should be the absolute first things that I learn just so I have a good foundation. The most transferable and applicable skill that I need.

>>4368389
I know you should be careful with your pure black but the reference went pretty dark itself.
pic related

Finished Corona chan