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Im new to doing commissions, and i cant tell if this girls head looks to small! This guy wanted his wife in a frazetta style drawing, so i made her "thick" . i cant tell if this drawing is noticeably off and doesnt even look frazetta like?

>> No.4354944

>>4354931
The head's size, proportions and position are the least of your concerns. Nice attempt, but this kind of work is above your level.

To be specific -

The pose is impossible. That's not what her hips and legs would look like in a pose like that.

Her spine is broken

The breasts....no. Complete fail there.

The ankles and feet are a complete cop out.

The torso is completely wrong.

If he paid you for this, do the right thing, give him a full refund, and start over. You have much more work to do before tackling something like this, and that's not even getting into the other massive issues with the rest of the work.

Slow down, and commit to learning. You're not ready for commissions yet. At all.

>> No.4354977

A normie (in this case, a person who does not draw) will not know what its wrong in the piece, it may think it looks like this due to the stylization, but your pic is hideous bro, like really really weak, your values are somewhat okey, nice touch having her do silloute against the lighter wolf instead of going with the cheap trick of using the black wolf, so thats some good points on my book,
but your anatomy, gesture, expression, its all fucked up, how much did you charged this guy for the work? also Frazetta is much more than just bimbos and beats, is about strenght, through gesture and razor clean anatomy, apply yourself fucko, you are doing a fool of yourself.
again, normie may not notice it, they eat whatever it looks half decent, believe me.

>> No.4354981

>>4354944
The drawing isn’t done so the ankles feet hands breasts etc haven’t been touched yet.

As for the breasts, he wanted them huge and natural looking. Which I admit I’m not use to drawing. And I’ve told him I’m not use to doing nudes and that he isn’t going to get exactly frazetta, since he’s a master at art. He really wanted me to draw it though. If he doesn’t like it I would respectfully refund him. Anyways. Can you help me red line this and explain how her body is wrong?

>> No.4354984

>>4354981
>The drawing isn’t done so the ankles feet hands breasts etc haven’t been touched yet.

cheap excuse anon, thoose weird twig looking ankles are not a sketch, they are just poorly drawn by someone who dont understand the human leg and its bones.

>> No.4354988
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>>4354931
Her head too small for that massive elongated snake-woman body.
Her spine looks like it snapped too lmao..
Can you even fix it anymore though?
Just hope nobody notices i guess.

>> No.4354994

Look at this idiot saying “emergency help!” Like we’re his Mom.

>> No.4354995

>>4354984
Am I really that off with so much? I’m not the type to make excuses, I like criticism, but I didn’t think I was so delusional? I usually leave open spaces and add lines for a place holder. I don’t really call them sketches... but fuck I think I’ve just been staring at this drawing to long and thinking it’s decent.

>> No.4354999

>>4354931
Everything is wrong with at piece bro.

>> No.4355004

Alright well thanks guys for the help

>> No.4355019

>>4354981
This isn't something red lining would help with. The entire figure needs to be redone, from the ground up. I'm not going to do your work for you, if it was a slight alteration or a line slightly off, sure, but you simply need to go back to the start and learn anatomy better. This looks like you took a Playboy picture and copy and pasted her head and arm onto it, redlining won't fix that.

PS - the size of the breasts isn't the issue. The problem is that they don't work like that. At all.

You do what you want. To me, the right thing to do is refund him, and let him hire someone more skilled at this kind of work, and spend another year or two studying anatomy, and Frazetta, on top of everything else painting related, like value, texture, brushwork, and composition, before even thinking about taking commissions. And, a figure drawing/painting class is definitely something you should be looking into.

Again, good attempt, but this is above your skill level. This isn't a redline issue, this is a "you can't do this yet" issue.

>> No.4355029

>>4355004
>the momment when OP can't handle more and just leaves

Feels good to crush the weak.

>> No.4355035

>>4354931
Honestly despite the anatomy errors >>4354944 pointed out, I believe your commissioner will still be happy with it. As long as it's rendered decently most people will usually ignore anatomy issues. Just look at many popular coomer artists.

You should try to finish as much as you can and try to learn from the advice in the thread.

>> No.4355060

>>4354931
There is no saving this piece, be done with it and move on. What I don't understand is how can you commit to anything this serious in trad without making dozens of sketches, observing reference and doing studies first? Rethink your approach

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4355076

>>4354931
I think you were going for something kind of like this?

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>>4354931
>that composition

trim out all the useless clutter anon, the sword's placement also betrays your lack of perspective and make the entire thing looks off.

>> No.4355413
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4355413

Anon, I made some adjustments to your drawing. It doesn't look great, but its better than it was before. I made sure to make her body somewhat more proportional, and I added more tone.

>> No.4355546

>>4355413

why the fuck does the shadow have a face?

>> No.4355604 [DELETED] 

>>4354931
Try again even if you have to straight rip off a frazzeta work.

>> No.4355605 [DELETED] 

>>4354944
Please don't give uneducated critiques

>> No.4355967

>>4355605
My art degree and career chuckle at your naive smugness.

>> No.4356002 [DELETED] 

>>4355967
You're a liar.

Nobody with An art degree would say something this dumb.

>> No.4356188

>>4355546
I tried adding a reflection because it looked like wet mud. Obviously I shouldn't have done that

>> No.4356189

>>4356188
*it looked like they were laying on wet mud.

>> No.4356193

>>4355076
That looks even worse.

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>>4355967
OP can easily get away with selling his painting telling him to re do it and stop taking commisions because he is not ready is retarded. There are way worse artists/drawings out there on patreon making $5k a month. You're piece of paper is worthless when it comes to understanding what normies think looks good

>> No.4356628

>>4354931

looks like she's sniffing her armpit

>> No.4356716

>>4355076
LMAO AHAHAHAHAHAAH GOOD JOKE ANON.

>> No.4356725

>>4356193
>>4356716
Really? What exactly is wrong with it though?

>> No.4357071 [DELETED] 

>>4356203
This.

>> No.4357982

>>4356716
stfu

>> No.4357988

it looks like she is sniffing her armpits and the smell was so musky she got high from it LOLOLOL

>> No.4357995

>>4356002
If you have an art degree of any kind that's not traditional drawing you are already a dumbass.

>> No.4361415

>>4357995
Okay Amawu.

I think you are referring to an Illustration degree btw.

>> No.4363159

>>4356725
Nothing.