/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4329080
stop making this shitty threads faggot

>>4329082
then make one yourself fag or keep bitching and doing nothing

>>4329082
fuck off crab.

>>4329080
kek

>>4329080

I posted in another thread:

>>4329086

>>4329082
what a dick

reposting from the previous thread >>4328903

i've mostly drawn flat value weeb shit my whole life, so getting into (digital) painting is a massive learning curve for me.
can anyone offer critique for where i am currently with this piece? it's obviously very rough, but what elements can i bring to improve my overall values?
i know adding leaves to the trees will help a lot but i seem to have a hard time with them, so i'm holding out for now. if anyone has any useful tree painting tutorials, i would absolutely welcome that!

how to get better at 5 point perspective from imagination? particularly figures, but is there any theory or textbook on the topic in general? so far I've only seen a few pages on it in the books I've read with no real detail. I see sometimes there are perspective lines drawn around people but I don't see how this could actually be used

>>4329128

>www.ctrlpaint.com

>>4329186
thank you anon, this is super helpful!! <3

>>4329082
Based.

I'm so fucking done. Drawing is a worthless skill, and for faggots. Art can suck my dick.

>>4329229
are you okay, anon?

First painting im proud of

>>4329229
Its ok anon everyone dont have the patience or the talent.

>>4329229
art is a passion you need to feel in your heart. if it's something you deeply enjoy, continue to practice and improve. it's also important to draw only for yourself and not others.

is no progress in 2 months something normal?
i draw 2-1 hour a day because of school and shit

>>4329242
Did you compare your current sketches with shit you did a month ago?

>>4329080

anyone know where I can find photos of one object in different angles. like a bowl or a cup.

>>4329242
Here's a guy who started from scratch with drawing, and his progress over 3 months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhODiA4o3GI&t=

I'm having trouble with this one and I don't know why bros. I need help

>>4329279
Poor anatomy under clothing. Learn key anatomical landmarks that appear under clothes I,e. Knees, the tops of the pelvis, the ends of the shoulders, elbows. Clothing will bend around these landmarks, and otherwise it will hang and bunch up if pressed. Key problem in yours is the outside of the upper sleeve, that area experiences a lot of pull from elbow and shoulder and is thus usually smooth, and also the cuffs, they should hang off of the wrist with the outside edge fairly smooth and the inside fairly crumpled. Very shapeless shirt , shirts tend to pull away from the shoulders thus have a smoother chest area, esp on women, and then they are bundled into the pants, often spilling out noticeably

>>4329294
thanks anon.
sometimes I find it hard to recognize(?) the anatomy underneath the clothing.
What should I do?

if 4chan wasn't anonymous i would swear you guys wait until i post and then immediately create a new thread. its almost every fucking time.

crit on the shading please also head construction.

>>4329279
I just want you to know that I really liked this.

The arms are a bit off if you want something to focus on though, theyre fine but just something I noticed and probably fabric study. Great piece nonetheless

>>4329308
thanks anon...
I don't think I'm improving though (even getting worse). are there any specific exercises that might help?
thanks again

I've recently created this (mines on left, obviously). An artist I follow on twitter posted a cool image and i recreated it really well, but i still cant draw things that I want to draw myself, even with a reference.

Should i stop copying other artists' works and genuinely start grinding out gesture/figure drawing/form studies?

>>4329318
I'm also trying to get better at what I do. For me, I just look up tutorials on pinterest and youtube, If I want to understand for example light I look up tutorials and experiment until I feel like I learned something new. There are some good fabric study guides on pinterest.

I guess you could also do some texture exercises, where you draw a cube and then draw it 10 more times but in different textures.

>>4329303

Practice from reference, emphasise points where anatomy is showing up.

>>4329320
>Should i stop copying other artists' works and genuinely start grinding out gesture/figure drawing/form studies?

you can do both. i think youre doing it wrong if youre only studying all the time. drawing should be fun too otherwise theres no point.

but holy shit that left leg is so fucked. its crazy that you could post a person with a calf and ankle like that and not be sure what the problem is.

im not trying to discourage you, im just saying, YES grind the fundamentals. You've got a very steep learning curve ahead of you.

but you're not hopeless. just by being here, being honest and modest, asking for help you must have some level of self awareness that you dont see with the autists on deviant art who never improve.

good luck anon. draw some boxes and cylinders and stuff.

apple

Just finished this one took about an hour. Taking my first drawing class, I'm about 3 weeks in. What do I need to focus on the most?

Also how would I go about making finer detailed lines with shading? My finger smudges everything but I need something more thinner I guess.

Yeah I'm super new.

Also after taking the picture I noticed it looks better in person than in the picture, at least to me anyways. Does that have something to do with the lighting?

Could anybody help me with this one? I've just about finished up the form, but I feel there's something very wrong with the head. The direction it's facing is a bit off, but I don't feel that it's JUST that. Thanks in advance.

>>4329260
He's shit

>>4329242
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

>>4329080
This is something I finished pretty recently, but to me it just feels empty and kinda flat.

I'm also wanting to do more monsters and such, but I'm kinda just stuck in this shitty cartoony style.

How do I break this, just study?

>>4329169
start with 3 point and work up to it

Started art two months ago, but still have problems with anatomy, I'm making this but I think it looks kinda flat

Any advice?

>>4329304
Use a stomp and try drawing on top of it afterwards for texture. “Drag out” your shading with it !

What sites are good for posting webcomics on? Also, how to make webcomic

Drew this using a bodybuilder reference. Any tips moving forward?

here is my artwork

>>4329701
tapas.io hosts high quality stuff but its all yaoishit. smackjeeves is another but its again mostly yaoishit. you could always make a tumblr, devart, or twitter but those arent ideal places to host comics.
i think a dedicated website is the way to go if you’re really passionate about it.
>>4329691
you should try finishing it first...
>>4329554
>>4329546
looks very nice

>>4329702
Just fix the left arm, trust me, everything else is golden and whoever tells you otherwise is a /beg/

>>4329731
why are you trying to sabotage /beg/s?

>>4329737
shhhhhh, it's perfect

Which of these are the closest to what I should be doing for Vilppu gestures laid out here?
https://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.3/3.3pages/3.3vilppudrawing.html

>>4329702
Resize your pictures.

>>4329677
something about the gradients makes me not like this style, maybe the line thickness too, but yeah, it's very flat, you could use atmospheric perspective to make the background appear further away?

>>4329850
Honesty you need to look more at Villpu’s drawings because imo none of these capture the gesture of this all that well. Exaggerate way more especially the curves

did some more gestures.

>>4329872
Are any of these closer (They're specifically modeled off of the ones before the "Imagine an accordian" page)?

>>4329886
try doing these traditionally

>>4329320
lol, the left thigh is so thin and the calf is huge

>>4329889
Small Pen, Pencil, and Felt-Tip Pen.

>>4329886
>>4329850
>>4329906
The pose you have chosen is not great for a beginner honestly. You need to choose poses that show movement very obviously like pic related as an example.
Gesture line is not a contour line of body, its line of movement. Closest thing in body that comes to gesture line is the spine usually. Your lines are also way too stiff, just loosen up and dont be afraid of making mistake. line you first think will be mistake might be the best one

It's been 4 fucking years and I still don't know how to properly use color
I need some advice.

>>4330001
personally im trying to learn by copying other artists (pic related) though im begfag so idk if you should take my advice

so i think im able to copy something pretty decenty
do i keep drawing anathomy and gestures until im able to do it without using references or should i do something else and just use refs whenever i need it

>>4330015
draw from one reference until it looks good then try to draw from imagination but in a very similar pose to that of the reference

>>4330012
Your advice is perfectly valid, copying artists art/strategies is a great way to improve

>>4330018
will try, thanks

>>4329869
Perspective is something I've kinda always struggled with I'll look into it more.

I appreciate the feedback man.

>>4330125
You might find this useful.

http://dl.booktolearn.com/ebooks2/art/drawing/9780415840118_Simplifying_Perspective_451f.pdf

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>>4330150
Oo nice, thanks

Think I’m getting there lads.

All my paintings look muddy so I'm trying to learn how to use saturation properly.
Any advice I should take to help improve my eye for it?

How's my perfect 3d mortadella?

is there a site like quickposes, or a directory of images with interesting shots/perspectives, like fisheye lenses in closeups of action or just anything with camera distortion? I think viewing images with the same lens and positions is making it a lot harder to draw dynamic poses , as it all looks so flat

>>4330187
a lot of beginner mistakes here is why.

first of all, there should be no reason why the portion of geralts skin in direct light is such a dark grey. the local value of his skin should be much brighter.

In the figure the separation between light, midtone and shadow is unclear as they are too close to eachother in value. Geralts hair, which should have whitest values in the painting, are the same dark shades of grey as his skin. Everything is just the same, even the background, hence the muddiness.

Also the brush strokes are too small, hard and streaky for rendering skin. The right size brush is always the biggest one you can use without losing the detail you need for each specific area. Turn your opacity and flow down to 20-30% and build up the values and detail in multiple passes of light and shadow in layers. much more feasible for a beginner especially than drawing with thick opaque paint.

is it possible to add a 5 second delay after each brushstroke? would be great for improving chickenscratching + tendonitis

>>4330224
love me a good mortadel'

Why not take pictures of yourself with the poses/lenses you find interesting?

>>4330316
>>4330271

>>4330316
>add a 5 second delay after each brushstroke
very expensive , and difficult too, with just one person

>>4330316
very expensive , and difficult too, with just one person

>>4329711
You're probably right but I feel like it'd be harder to get people to read when it's some random site and not somewhere that already has millions of users at least in the beginning

Would the Dynamic Sketching series by Peter Han be a good resource for a beginner? I was thinking of practicing the exercises from that and doing some Keys to Drawing exercises in the meanwhile. Would that be too much?

>>4329554
it kind of looks like his entire asscheek is concave but asides from that great work. the whole upper body is drawn and shaded really nicely

>>4329260
Some of his drawings are surprisingly good compared to the amount of time he's drawn. Is this the sort of progress you experience when you're not a talentless fuck? I know you're not supposed to compare, but it's making me a little sad.

How long on average would it take to go from not drawing at all to drawing porn well enough for commissions? A year? 2? 3?

>when you realize you've suffered way too little in your life to ever make great art
it's not fair, bros

>>4330414
You need to become a functioning alcoholic like Bridgman to make it

Trying to develop a tiny drawing on a sticky note

>>4330183
(you aren't)

playing around

I kinda like how this monster turned out, but the paper got too fucked up around the mouth on the front facing pose. definitely need to work on how hard I press my pencil into the paper.

>>4330414
Very random but there's a scene in the movie American Animals where one of the main characters finds himself being frustrated because he, as an artist, feels like he lacks a big tragic moment or some kind of suffering in his life to truly be great.

>Decided I would be really productive today, and practice a lot
>shitpost and watch jewtube videos all day
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4330597
You just lack discipline. The more you force yourself to do something, the easier it is to do it.

Is it possible to train my eyes to be able to eyeball proportions without doing any measuring or sighting?

>>4330604
No. It is however possible to practice it to the point where you do it subconsciously.

>>4330611
What do you mean by doing it subconsciously?

>>4329279
the only thing wrong about this is that it's posted in beg

>>4330316
I am dyel as fuck and I want to draw aesthetic bodies.

>>4330615
Without putting effort into thinking about it. You'll still measure, but you'll be skilled enough at it that you don't think about doing it. This, of course, also depends on your familiarity with your subject. Another thing is that you shouldn't feel that there's anything wrong with measuring and sighting. It is a good tool and should be used as such.

>>4330453
T-rex arms

>>4330604
I am an amateur but I mostly eyeball perspectives when not using refs. It takes way longer to get it right though.

>>4330628
References aren't meant to be copied line for line. You take what you want from a reference and use it elsewhere. So find a picture of a big nigg, and put those big nigg muscles on your dyel pose. Of course this sounds a lot easier than it is, but that's where practice comes into play.

>>4330629
>>4330636
Should I still measure or sight if i’m drawing from imagination?

trying to draw beastmen from warhammer

Should I keep following this book(how to draw by Scott Robertson) if I'm a single digit-IQ brainlet and find it extremely difficult to follow the exercises, and the video """"explanations"""" these fags provide only confuse me even more? I feel like I'm just wasting my time trying to grasp some complicated shit and not really seeing how is it even applicable to actual drawing.

>>4330631
if the arm was extended it is actually on point

>>4330667
If you feel like it's not working for you, why are you asking someone else if you should stop doing it? You've pretty much answered your own question.

>>4330604

do a lot of gesture drawing

>>4330653

well, don't stop. do another sketching on top and refine it.

>>4330653
I like the style, could imagine it being something in an artbook , try some darker lines to go over the top with too

>>4330677
I was just following this guide and kinda assumed it's paramount that I finish How To Draw before moving on to other stuff if I'm hoping to git gud.

>>4330703
Have you watched the videos? No idea what it means by videos, but it tells you to do that as well. Also, if there's something specific you don't understand, just try some googling, and you might find someone else explaining it in a simpler way. You are meant to learn from these books, and if you're not learning, then what worth are they to you.

>>4330703
Having gone through the book myself recently and completed all of the exercises, I can tell you that it's not THAT important that you do and understand every single exercise in this book.
A lot of the stuff this book covers you will never ever use ever again after finishing the book.
Just do the stuff that you think is useful for the type of drawings you want to make.

>>4330012
Copy better artists

>>4328811
first time in a while drawing a girl. My process is starting to speed up, which I’m happy with. Thank you to the anon who sent me the accuracy guide the other day.

>>4330767
reference

First time I actually draw and finish something. Not sure if it is bad or at least passable. I think I fucked up the lightning. The legs are a bit funky too. What should I do to improve it?

>>4330782
Just a redraw of this tho

>>4330782
If this is truly your first drawing then its extremely good and you might be the new Mozart of art

>>4330768

disgusting

>>4330767
Nice, which guide? pls share

>>4330800
more like Moezart

I get so frustrated with my drawings. I have this idea in my head and I end up with shit on paper. Then I get discouraged and don't try for awhile until the cycle repeats. Also when do you guys draw? For some reason I tend to do it at night and when I'm tired I just get more annoyed.
Do you guys have any advice?

>>4330806
Thanks! Here you go
https://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/

>>4330653
you're not done. Keep drawing until you actually finish. Right now, those are just ugly scribbles. Keep going

>>4330767
I'm the anon who sent you the link yesterday.
This drawing compared to the one you did yesterday is like a night and day difference.
Goodjob anon, it's always nice to see someone actually passionate about improving.

How important is drawing posture and where you draw?
I sit at a low table on a cushion. Should I try to use my desk instead?

>>4330868
It’s good to work standing up where possible. Drafting desks usually allow for standing, drawing on a surface bent towards you. You can also buy a tall stool if you need to sit down for a bit. Standing up enables you to make big motions with your hand because your elbow is free and off the desk

>>4330868
I thought my posture was bad
and then i started drawing

>>4330879
That's a good point. I don't have a standing desk though, but I think sitting at my existing desk will be better than my current solution when you mention the elbow thing.

>Only did some lines, ellipses and organic shapes today.
>probably practiced for less than an hour
It really makes me wonder. Am I even enjoying drawing if I can't manage to force myself to do it for an hour a day?

If I'm correct, copying/referencing is perfectly fine with drawing anime right? If not, what would be the quickest and best way to improve? This is a little drawing I did... try to ignore the face I feel like the hair and eyes are the hardest parts for me.

>>4330894
Drawing has a lot of components. You probably don't enjoy those exercises a lot and will eventually come across stuff that gives you more satisfaction.
Not an excuse to skip fundies tho.

>>4330894
I feel sort of the same, I think I just like the idea of drawing but hate the process of learning how

My lines are either too short or too long. How can i know exactly how long they should be every time?

>>4330895
Westerners cannot draw anime. It is not in their genes, or their childhood. What is the point of making inferior copies of other people's work, that they made from their imagination?

>>4330942
I want another golden age of american animation. Just like how the 1930s and 1940s were.

>>4330942
how very cringe

>>4330012
learn how a vagina looks

Are master studies worth doing as a /beg/? Or would you be lacking in the foundations necessary to gain something from their works?

fellas there was this good forum where they had tons of torrents art related i remember i downloaded the proko premium course and the Steve Ahn drawing course the thing is my pc died and i no longer know the name of the site

>>4330967
the video course thread on here has some stuff

how to i learn to draw? i'm stuck as a anime fag who only knows to draw a head. I want to get better and grow so i can draw cute girls. please point me where to start. pic related

>>4330941
Should i just guess my lines and hope for the best?

So I did this last night and I notice that something I have a lot of issues with is ankles/wrists and necks. Like, I always end up with either no wrists/ankles or super awkward looking ones. Like her left arm wrist, or left ankle. Is that an issue that's common?

>>4330982
Just pick a book from the sticky and go through it step by step.
It doesn't even really matter which /beg/ book you pick, they're all fine if you just want to learn how to draw.

>>4331009
Look at references of your weak points and try to break them down in simple forms.
I assume that drawing you made is done without a ref, but you're really not at the stage yet where you should draw without ref when it comes to human figures.

>>4330965
Begs should spend 100% of time working with pen and pencil.

>>4330967
GFXPeers

This is my /beg/est drawing yet. Drew some boxes earlier. Will probably start on the first exercise of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain tomorrow. I draw shit now so I can look back in x months and see where I've learned and improved.

>>4331038
I like that you're doing dynamic poses instead of the usual 3/4th view awkward standing pose that most /beg/s start with.

>>4331039
Honestly I asked my brother to give me something to copy and he gave me this. I would have chosen said 3/4 standing pose with bib anime tidbies otherwise.

I just fucking made up the hand. I really lack any learnings about how to handle stuff like that at this early point.

>>4331028
I'm not at my computer but I did do it with a reference. I refuse draw without any sort of reference right now where I need to learn my anatomy and body haha.

>>4331043
Okay good.
I assumed it was without reference because you complained about not knowing how to draw wrists/ankles.
Just look at the ref.

>>4329080
took me way too long to finish, but I'm glad I at least attempted rendering out the shine

I've been wearing spirit cuffs for about 9 months. Decided to take them off today to test my power level. I have been trying to draw people from memory the whole time. Today I finally used a reference.

>>4331063
I think my drawings have improved a lot but the values in this are shit. When I used the black pencil I think I fucked it up. I'll do my best to go back in with regular pencils and give more precise contrast and cleaner strokes.

>>4331036
Thanks buddy also have some motivation

>>4329080
girl running

>>4331113
guy posing

>>4331113
Something about her head..isn’t there. It looks too big. Maybe I’m tripping. But the body especially the torso could use some work in the way you used curves, especially the front. That right hand is also way too big and could use work. The male looks pretty good.

>>4331163
thanks for your input. The first one I tried to rip different references and peice it together and it shows, the second one was just drawing what I saw

dog, first "finished" piece that i kind of like

will i make it

>>4331176
it looks like its jaw is twisting towards the viewer the farther it goes back into the throat

>>4331176
I like it anon.
The rendering is really good.
I think I kinda get what >>4331178 is saying, but if he didn't point it out I definitely wouldn't have noticed so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

How would I work on drawing details? I'm usually lost on drawing stuff like landscapes or body fat on people just because I'm certain on how to properly draw it without it looking flat or lazy.

>>4331183
yes the rendering is good but the construction could use a little help

>>4331176
You've sat and drawn something. You're doing better than most of the cunts here that just talk about reading Loomis.

>>4331176

nice photocopy

>>4331185
This might help you with landscapes

>>4331176
Don't post your work on this godforsaken board, crabs everywhere.
Find a nice discord or subreddit and post it there, people are less likely to crab if they get held accountable for their comments.

>>4331185

photobash

>>4331196

More facial practice.

>>4331233
Ref

>>4331147
looks like a spiderman pose

>>4331233
eyes are completely off

learn from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSssogLx60Q

>>4331113
Looks more like a feminine guy imo

>>4329204
nah, this kind of thread is important

>>4329696
What does this mean? Not the person who posted the picture but still wondering.
What's a stomp?

>>4331358

I think that anon is talking about "blending stump" those stick thing people use to smudge

>>4331237
I did a study of this

>>4331346
lol I see it now, thanks haha

>>4329569
Bump. Help pls

>>4331369
ooooooh thank you

>>4331399
how did you learn to draw like that? Like what sourced did you use and what does practice look like for you?

>>4329080
>always draw back when i was a kid, knew my art was shit even back in the day since the proportions are werid as fuck
>at present tries to draw
>realized i cant draw a fucking body and im afraid to continue
fuck me

>>4329569
>>4331447
The direction is fine. You aren't going to really learn this way. Just commit to a drawing and don't worry about messing up, you are supposed to mess up so you know what to improve on

>>4331461
I copied the loomis head construction for a little bit and some of the hogarth heads too. I also just copied from comic and animation artists I like that already had a good foundation. So after a while you kind of just know where the major landmarks go. For this drawing I still had trouble and the one I posted was my third attempt, it wasn't until I had to mentally put loomis's head construction over the reference to get the proportions right, then it was just a matter of copying the details straight from the reference. I tried the hardest to get the brows correct as that was his most identifying feature.

I tried loomis head but it's so hard. pic related is me eyeballing.

>>4331608
Looks good, I can't tell what's going on with the neck though

>>4331465
Just draw man. Maybe start with landscapes, buildings, or animals if you're that intimidated by human figures. Everyone starts somewhere, anon.

its not good but ill keep trying

>>4331626
You have an interesting style going here, it's got a king of the hill sort of vibe

>>4331608
Very good proportions. You should draw more of his hair and neck though.

Wasn't trying to make a full drawing just practicing the side of the skull

How do I do anatomy studies right?
I just copy from the model and try to get the anatomy down right?

Complete /beg/ here. I've read the sticky, but I'm not sure about something. Does learning to draw what I see come before anything else? Recently I've just been doing a lot of still life, but unless the subject is something really simple like an apple, I tend to get lots of angles and proportions wrong, make lines too short/long or two near to/far from each other, not know how to make shading look good, etc. I don't know if I am supposed to be able to do this more accurately before trying to move on to resources that teach stuff like perspective and construction.

>>4331746
I loke what ur doing, but try to master proportions as much as possible

Does photoshop have a windows like this, where I can just click on the different brush sizes 10, 20 , 30 . 40 px instead of using the slide bar to change the size or punching in the number value manually?

critique super appreciated

>>4329229
Did someone tell you to go back to fundies again?

>>4329229
(꒪꒪)

How do I grind perspective?

>>4331814
Does she have a instagram?

>start reading drawing in the right side of the brain
>need to make a fucking viewfinder
>no 8x10 but have an old 10x10 picture frame
Is this fine? Am i going to use this all the time in the book?

>>4329304
you do know you can see the bump limit at the bottom and top of the thread right?

>>4331832

I just skip that part and skim through then start drawing from life. a lot.

>>4331912
so what about "symbol" drawing that the book keeps talking about, if i do the exercise, somehow i can "cure" my symbol drawing

>>4331924
Symbol drawing isn't bad.
What's bad is symbol drawing with bad symbols.
Even pros still symbol draw, they just have better symbols than you.
The only way to get better symbols is to copy from real life for a while.
Copy what you actually see instead of what you think you see.

>>4331930
>what you actually see instead of what you think you see
Then why the fuck am i doing construction with shapes if i need to draw what i actually see?

>>4331930
t.retrard who doesnt know what symbol drawing means

>>4331954
>retrard

>>4331942
I mean sometimes you need construction sometimes you don’t. Most of the time you’ll use construction when drawing humans and animals from imagination or when you draw from imagination in general. But often when just looking at something it’s better to understand the relationships between lines and all rather than always constructing

>>4330767
tried doing one from imagination today. Turned out better than I expected, but something about the torso seems wrong, and the neck area is bugging me.

>>4331912
>>4331977
im actually just shit in drawing bodies and thats why i think its better to go with the fundies first but some anons suggest to just draw or copy an artist work for the meantime

>>4331993
With humans I would personally focus on fundamentals to get proportions and anatomy correct. When people say copy other artists they mean look at what the artists do to stylize and create the human form successfully and take after them

>Have too high expectations for myself
>feel nothing even though I can see myself improving because it's still nowhere good enough
I want to fucking die

>>4332012
>I can see myself improving
hey atleast you're improving while I always see my art to be very shitty

>>4331954
>t.retrard
ironigger

>>4330703
>fastest way to improve
Literally NGMI

>>4331147
good SHIT!

>>4331176
Breddy good except for the eyes and the brow ridge area as a whole is fucked.

still life of a bottle opener

>>4331626
Josh Homme?

>Used to do all my drawing in a sketchbook on my lap while sitting on the couch
>doodle for several hours a day
>decide I want to properly learn how to draw
>buy a desk and chair to make myself an area meant for drawing
>now barely draw for 30 minutes a day before getting bored and doing something else
Why must I be like this

Posting cause I got nothing better to do.

Posting something I did today.

>>4332078
30 min is still pretty good if you are at least challenging yourself

>>4332085
it looks like she's touching a wall with trees painted on it.

>>4331988
another one without reference. not as happy with this one, but I like how the right foot turned out

>Trying to do controur drawing
>Just follow the contour with the eye and draw it at the same time bro, move your eye at the same time you move your hand
>Literally impossible
My eye moves too fast or too slowly, I get full of anxiety and I can't focus at all.

Bit of a long shot, but is any of this correct?
No ref since I wanted to do at least one thing out of imagination today, rest has all been studies.

>>4332249
WOW, IT'S LIKE YOU NEED TO PRACTICE TO GET GOOD AT SOMETHING. WHODA THUNK

>>4331113
You think this is some kind of game?

>>4332302
When does it start feeling like I'm actually practicing and improving instead of haphazardly doodling? How long did it take you to not feel like you were wasting your time?

>>4330001
Colors aren't the problem

how the fuck do i construct this feet

>>4332324
since you don't have a teacher to irl show what you are doing wrong, try tracing to see where your mistakes are and adjust accordingly. Then try drawing it again just by looking at it. Keep doing that back and forth until you feel like you are good at it. Then the real test is to try drawing it with out looking at it, from memory. That is when you know you have improved

>>4330667
It's not even that hard did u do trigonometry in high school or geometry it's literal 1 IQ required to understand he's just drawing shapes and dividing and multiplying them then building forms using planes in perspective like a graph in 3 dimensions

>>4331176
It's definitely got problems but everyone is right when they say the rendering is well thought out, it's obvious u know ur way around light and shadow at least competently but you jumped the gun man, those little mistakes of perspective and form make it not coherent if u go back and address those things which arguably come before rendering then you'll be golden

>>4332332
My problem is that I can't coordinate my eye to move along with my hand. I'm supposed to draw exactly what I'm seeing but I always end up relying on other types or observation (trying to look at the entire thing, looking at the paper) or guessing instead of literally drawing what I'm seeing. I can't even move my eye "slowly" along the edges of things, I just jump from one point to the other.

>>4332085
I like it, kind of looks like a scene out of an animated movie

>>4329961
Well now I'm confused as to what it should look like.
Are any of these closer to your idea of a gesture?

>>4329961
As for the other gesture, here's my attempts.
Again these are based on the early Vilppu gesture drawings, before the accordion.

still drawing hands, how am i doing

>>4329080
how do I "copy" angles from references when I'm trying to draw the exact perspective on boxes and depth(?) on oval objects?

>It's easier to draw a complex shape or even faces/animals etc than a box standing in front of me, because so many shapes it's just like a puzzle after the initial measurements
>The lines I capture with picture related don't even converge

>>4332499
by references I mean still life or real life, copying from screens is easy. I got few small boxes and packages to try to draw them.

>>4332344
thats actually how everyone else does it. I don't know anyone who learned to draw by following their hand with their eye in perfect sync in order to copy something, at least for me and I have never seen instruction to do it that way. You just need to practice "eyeballing" it and tracing will help you realize where something is off so you can compensate when you go back to just looking at it. You just have to get a feel for it and that comes with practice.

>>4332267
Legs are too small, right pelvis area makes no sense. Left humerus is a bit too short.

>>4332442
Improvement

>>4332442
nice core shadows, your other tones are all over the place though I would make them a bit more consistent

I just realized pinterest is the worst place to get references, unless you want to draw anime, all the photos are of slim woman and beautiful people, if i want to draw gesture i just end doing stick figures.

why is every white ink pen/micron/ink in the world complete shit that doesn't work?
I'm sick of my drawings turning into a translucent pile of shit and garbage every time I try to ink over a fine black line.

>>4332551
deviant art has a good source of varying sized models

how do i into shadows in clothing?

>>4332588
Like you'd do any other object.

>>4332588
its all about knowing where the creases are and using sharp edges/blending to convey them

>>4332588
Use refs for the two other guys like you did with Cheetah

>>4332267
always better to draw legs and arms longer than reality than shorter than reality. think of fashion drawings and their proportions you know?

>>4332634
do you have any author i can look into? loomis's fwp is the only thing i know and he doesnt talk at all about this.
>>4332675
i know it's a very generic pose but the cheetah as well as everything else was made from imagination, i'll take it as a compliment though

Small scale digital art still taking forever, I lose the drive to do anything when projects take so long. How do you speed it up?

Using Pant.net and a mouse. I don't like tablets.

>>4332843

what tutorial are you following?

>>4332899
None,I just got advice to try and draw in a box.

Twisted around my dominant hand, weird.

Just watched Joker and couldn't not try to draw him

>>4332839
>mouse
NGMI

Right now I'm poor as fuck, so what's a good tablet to get if I want to start digital?

>>4332987

hillary clinton as joker?

>>4333011
Don’t buy a tablet, draw with pen and pencil until you can afford a good tablet. It’s easy to pick up painting if you can draw well

>>4333012
oh wow I'm seeing it

>>4329080
How can I fix these? I used a lot of references some real women, some anime. Would love a red line or specific suggestions.

>>4333067

>>4333070
draw them inside a box and treat them like you're drawing inside a new environment, well that's what I do at least.

just made this as my 3rd attempt, first semi-finished (the whole artboard is covered, at least) at making stuff in illustrator.

feel like i should delete cacti and re-make them

image is simple, just learning how to do some stuff

>>4333087
just realized this is the wrong fucking board for this. fuck me, anons

As a beginner, how do I approach learning human anatomy?

>>4333087
wrong board bastard

>>4333093
look at muscle turnarounds and just copy/study them

>>4333093
Villpu drawing manual, some proko videos and Hampton’s figure drawing book

>>4333087
its ok that you posted on the wrong board but you should know that the cactus' shadow would not hug the cliff like that. that makes no sense whatsoever.

>>4332839
I love the design.

>>4333131
Go do a ton of figure drawings mate. Learn proportions. Learn anatomy. Draw more heads. You have quite a bit to work on

kinda derpy looking but meh.

$400.00 for a surface pro 2017 model with keyboard and pen. i5 with 8gb ram and 256gb hd. worth it for drawing?

studying a difficult pose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S2q_or4k4
Is there an equivalent to krita's wrap around
mode in gimp or photoshop?

>>4331608

another eyeballing practice.

some eye sketches from "memory"

>>4332395
>>4332408
Different anon here, but here is what I would consider gesture for those poses. Hope that helps.

>>4331789
Looks good. I would say use higher opacity brushes and try to really hit the right value and color. Should help with speed, keeping things simple, and prevent muddiness. Also, try switching to b&w every now and then to check overall values. It looks kind of flat right now...but I'm willing to bet that's the reference.

I tried something really quick. Hope it helps in future paintings.

>>4329677
Honestly this is a GREAT cartoon style and why not just keep going with this?

>reading "right side of the brain" book
>Book says I should take 40 minutes to an hour for inverted picasso
>Really getting into that "ignore shapes and focus on lines" mode
>It's been 1 and a half hour
>Only have this

I'm retarded and I hate myself

>>4332839
>mouse
Based and GMI

Olson or Vandruff?

>>4333388
yes! this helps a lot, thank you so much for the thoughtful advice

>>4330818
Noob here. But I still think I can elaborate on you question. I read once that artists study the tools of their craft so that when "inspiration" strikes they have the abilities necessary to make their idea a reality.d Check out this book "War of Art" by Steven Pressfield. Great book that helped me to fight procrastination and draw a bit more. which leads to your next point. Irritability/annoyance. I think it's cuz we don't have the skillset to draw the greatness we envision. It could be day or night. we'd put out the same shit. We just gotta practice more? I saw a suggestion once where you draw for 5-10 min. If you're not feeling it, stop. Otherwise continue and see where it goes. I draw like 4 days out of the week most times at the minimum (20 min/week) . I know it's not the leaps and bounds of training I need but I'll get there someday. my two cents. btw, here's a bit of my stuff.

>>4333440
>"War of Art" by Steven Pressfield
many people especially from youtube also recommend that book but havent read it yet
was it really effective?

>>4333445
Same guy recommending book. It's a great book. Definitely worth. This is a book you'll read more than once cuz it's short enough you can read it in less than a day but the author definitely was able to get the point across. It's cliff notes to fight procrastination/art block/fear/etc. whatever you wanna call it. There's a pdf online somewhere. I bought the book it was that good for me

>>4333482
>to fight procrastination/art block/fear/etc
His solution to fight to fight procrastination/art block/fear is "just write" or in our case "just draw"
what a waste of time reading that book was

Crits?

I was going to post some work of mine to get some critiques but then I realized that everybody on here just says "do Loomis" and leaves it at that. LOL

>>4333570
ctrl+f "do loomis"

>>4333574
no

>>4333574
I also have thin skin because I suck and haven't improved in two years and people have even saved my work to mock me, so I'm not really encouraged to continue trying to do art and especially not post it.

>>4333574
I also have thin skin because I suck and haven't improved in two years and people have even saved my work to mock me, so I'm not really encouraged to continue trying to do art and I especially don't want to post it anymore.

SO to get good at drawing bodies and gestures i basically sketch references and try to remember it to apply later?
i was trying to draw from my imagination stuff with perspective but holyshit it took me an hour to make it look somewhat decent

>>4333597
lol if you don't wanna post then don't, but don't let some bad criticism discourage you, just sit down and make art, that's all it takes to be better than 90% of this board

>>4333445
It's a good book for life in general. But basically all he is saying is fucking work harder. Stop making excuses. Pray through your own laziness. Force yourself to work. That's the whole book.

>>4333597
It's okay to be shit, if you have a day job. Do you still enjoy drawing?

>>4333096
>>4333098
I got all the Morpho anatomy books. Would a good idea be to just fill sketchbooks with drawings from them? I can do it in ink since thats my favorite medium

>>4329080
I've been messing around with basic construction/sketching and I do find it helps improve my art as a beginner.

I sketched this out in about 5 minutes but I need to head to bed so for now please critique my work so far, I didn't put alot of effort into it I'll fix up the arms and bat (basically everything later and I'm going for a cartoony style not a realistic one.

If you can't decipher my sketch, It's meant to be a baseball batter.

>>4333906
Oops wrong pick, I was just playing around putting a face on and such.

>>4333906
>>4333908
Anon, this is pathetic.

>>4333919
I know right?!, Goodnight

>>4333956
>>4333956
>>4333956
>>4333956

>>4333906
>I didn't put alot of effort into it
>I'm going for a cartoony style not a realistic one
There's no reason to critique your drawing. You're lacking in literally all areas possible. You don't have a basic grasp of any fundies. Don't get me wrong. That's how it's going to be for pretty much anyone once they're starting out. It's the fact that you admit to both not putting in any effort, and also somehow think you can get away with being trash because it's "style" that makes your work unworthy of critique. Before improving anything else, you should improve your attitude, or just quit right now.

>>4333906
Don't post for the next 2 months. There is literally nothing to say about this.

Took 4 hours on this excercise when it was only supposed to take one. How do I go fast?

>>4333506

Could I get some critique on these? I want to give the viewer a better illustration of depth.

>>4336311

>>4336311
Same guy and question.

>>4336311
Last one.