/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4247576
Tupla.

>>4247576
Yes, it's called stop making up excuses for being a lazy faggot

>>4247580
This
>>4247583
kys crab

https://akademiai.com/doi/full/10.1556/2054.2018.008

>>4247576
Read some fiction novels for some months, to force yourself to IMAGINE things.

>>4247580
Tulpa*

>>4247576
Nope. Also many artists are aphantasiacs, even pros. You just have to work like a concept artist, gather lots of references and study the things you're drawing, do shrimp method, keep your notes, and work really hard.

The hardest thing for me with aphantasia is composition. I'm shit at thumbnailing crap out so I have to study the shit out of it to make my stuff look good.

i see aphantasia mentioned enough on this board to tell its a meme mental disorder people here like to self diagnose (like ocd) because they cant 1:1 draw what theyre picturing in their head. just draw faggot.
and why the fuck would someone with aphantasia want to draw in the first place? nearly all motivation for learning to draw should start from wanting to craft and present the small universe in your mind. someone with legit aphantasia wanting to draw is like a dumbass wanting to be a mathematician maybe because hes technically fast at punching in numbers in an excel sheet.

>>4247848
This board is retarded. There's 0 reason to come here other than wasting time.
>>4247598
Interesting.

>>4247848
>what theyre picturing in their head

Stopped reading, You obviously have no idea what aphantasia even is.

>>4247576
WHAT WE NEED IS AN EXPERIMENT
ONE THAT CAN TURN ANY ORDINARY INTO A GOD ONE THAT ERASES FLAW AND INJECTS TALENTS

>>4247837
>Also many artists are aphantasiacs, even pros
>like for example:

>>4247854
You’re just as retarded just for noticing that.

>>4247854
You’re just as retarded for noticing that.

>>4247598
what would this do for someone with a good imagination?

>>4247864
>noticing that something is retarded is retarded
what?

>>4247855
cry more about your imaginary disability

>>4247576
Do you dream?
Seriously, this is a important question

>>4247576
Nice try sycra

>>4247905
No. Everyday I wake up I feel like an I'm not my own person because I don't dream, I don't think, I can't imagine, etc. I'm just not. I'm much more aware of it. I see more clearly the effects of external stressors and what could be the cause for the negative emotions. We can change the situation. We can change how we feel about how we feel.

That is to say, not changing the person, but changing how we have a relationship with ourselves. If we can get in touch with our mind's energy (see bible chapter 14), our "true self" and the outcomes of our thoughts, we can perhaps change our lives for the better. This is how we become conscious of our brain and discover.
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But alas, that's not possible for me, because I simply don't exist.

>>4247920
What about music, can you replay a song in your own head?

>>4247931
I have no thoughts. I have to write things down everyday.
>Speak online.
>Speak at pub.
>Go at the general area of the group, for the computer assistant.
>Get better at art.
etc. Which is why I might just be the creator of this thread.

>>4247576
http://www.winwenger.com/imstream.htm

>>4247945
So if I saw what is the color of a banana?

You don't automatically think banana = yellow. And get a mental image or a memory of a banana. You have to search it?

aphantasia meme is the worst, I guarantee 100% of people on /ic/ who claim they have it don't. All you people are doing is making other people think they have some mental illness when they don't.

>>4247865

It made me pee on a dog.

Don't worry, the dog pee'd on me in return.

>>4247576
If we give you a solution to this problem you'll just find another thing to blame for not drawing.

>>4247848
>why the fuck would someone with aphantasia want to draw in the first place?
People don't want to do art, they just want to be called artists.

>>4247576
if you truly have aphantasia you are 100% faceblind. like, not just shit memory, but you will not recognize a close work friend if you pass them on the street because it's outside of the normal context in which you see them.

>>4247837
Shrimp method?

>>4247576
Drawing what you are picturing in your head is usually a detriment. Try to use multiple references instead.

>>4247860
glen keane

>>4247583
bruh, why are so many people on 4chan like this. Like yeah, it's stupid to think that because you struggle to picture things in your head a bit that you're NGMI, but they're also asking for advice on how to fix this. Some people on this site have their salty to levels set at a 9 to 10 as their default. Can you imagine people irl ever acting like this.

"Hey dude. I'm not really used to using windows for school work. How do I save my grades?"

"Maybe you should stop being a lazy crybaby fagot piece of shit making excuses."

Like fuck, everyone would hate that guy.

>>4247576
Okay so to answer your question, your brain doesn't know how to picture things visually if it's never had to pay attention and recall that information fbefore.
It doesn't mean you're doomed to never be able to picture things in your head, just that you have to build up your visual library. Some stuff people have suggested before on this thread is good advice. The shrimp method for example. Another thing is to learn basic forms and practice seeing real-world things as them, trees are made out a lot of cylinders, a person skull is an elongated kind of egg shape with some boxy bits added etc.


Study study study. Look at something, see it from different angles and really understand how all its pieces fit together and draw it. Draw it while looking at it, then from memory, and just keep repeating. You're going to start remembering how things look. The more you draw a thing & check to see if you did it right, the easier it'll become to recall what it's supposed to look like. This is what Kim Gi does. He's gotten to a point where can do it very quickly but if you look at an interview with him you'll see that he spends a lot of time studying things and trying to understand what they look like. If you look at any of his drawings you'll see that he isn't just creating new things, knowing how to draw them, but instead pulling from the same visual library he's developed in his head overtime.

>this thread again
fuck off russia

>>4247576
Yeah. Iterative design.
You draw something, then redraw with tweaks to make it look better. Repeat till it looks right.

>>4249584
People have been making shit up to excuse themselves not wanting to work hard to be artists for as long as /ic/ has existed. Talent, genetics, iq, ligamemes, now obscure neurological issues that you're less likely to have than you are to win the lottery.

We don't believe your self-diagnosed bullshit and won't pity you for not trying, fucking draw or quit.

>>4249597
How is this related to russia?

>>4247576

>>4247837
>Shrimp method
The what now?
>>4247598
>It's easy bro just travel to the peruvian jungle and contact the local shaman

I'm surprised there was only one suggestion to use psychedelic drugs.

>>4247837
>shrimp method
I've tried using it before but I always get confused about the steps above step 1. It's pretty useful for drawing simple designed characters but for more complex ones I always get stuck at.

>>4249584
After some time you're here you get tired of hearing stupid bullshit, i can't draw because my penis hurts, i can't draw because my pet rock died. So i can't take seriously posts like those. Anyone can get inspired by looking at whatever movies/games/books/music/hobbies they like.