/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4208592
just pyw or go away!

>>4208593
OP did

>>4208592
pure soul

Are you using this as an excuse to not draw? You're stupid.

>>4208593
>>4208594
no its not mine.
im pretty bad too but im just suprised 3000+ drawings doesnt mean you will improve

>>4208592
Draw = Practice specific techniques. Review each drawing and identify weakness points.

>>4208601
pyw

>>4208592
just use your fucking brain

>>4208592
dont show it to this guys' >> 4208121 mom btw

his linework is okay actually

>>4208592
>>4208601

you have to activate your brain when you try to draw

>>4208592
>Is perfectly fine with the perpetual low likes hell.
>Is perfectly fine with only being able to draw people standing.
I don't get it.

>>4208614
ok. im not claiming my art is better than his 3500 drawings

>>4208629
japanese autism

symbol drawing in anime/manga. o i laff.

>>4208601
1 minute on 3000 drawings is just 50 hours of practice.

Just draw harder.

>>4208636
Well good on you for actually pyw but this looks like something the spider girl guy would have drawn...unless...

>>4208663
>the spider girl guy
who?

>>4208669
a guy who just drew

>>4208682
not me.
the spider girl idea is interesting.....

>>4208592
Link ?
I think it’s wholesome as fuck he just likes drawing, no vanity or bullshit just draw characters he likes
Maybe it’s technically shit but I doubt he has a meltdown over how shit he is everynight

>>4208592
Soul

>>4208691
some people here likes harassing and bullying so i prefer not to link

>>4208691
Easy to find
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=27512346

>>4208700
Why post him on /ic/ at all then, if you knew harassment was a risk

>>4208741
yea shouldnt have posted it
he probably draws for fun and doesnt care about getting gud like the other anons said

why yes i can identify pure, oozing soul when i see it, how could you tell?

>>4208592
Surely shitposting on /ic/ will make you improve much faster now will it?


>>4208691
Yeah it's as if some people just draw a bit for fun and aren't trying to be the next Ruan Jia clone.

>>4208592
What's your angle here OP? I don't see the problem, it's almost like this guy is actually having fun drawing.
Are you having fun drawing OP?

>>4209041
i am kinda having fun but i want to draw anime chicks that look appealing/good and the fact that its very possible i wont even after thousands of drawings is not fun.

>>4209036
What’s this fun you speak of?
I draw to one day have power so that I can avenge myself on Pixiv and gain their acknowledgment at last when they gaze in awe at not only my lineart, but peak coloring as well.

>>4208592
do you want to know the difference between that guy and artists which improve OP? the later dont post everything they do until they are decent

>>4208629
this is the true happiness

just draw*

*but you need make a effort to get better too.

>>4209062
Sorry mate then drawing is not for you. If you only see drawing as a means to an end you'll never truly enjoy it. There is hope tho if you learn to love the process of drawing you'll get good quite fast.

>>4208592
Even if he just draws for fun this is quite sad. At least learn proper head construction or something.

>>4208682
>20 19
Always gets me

>>4208682
I dunno, I think it's innocent and cute. It's bad, but it's not soulless. You feel me?

>>4209093
It is possible to not enjoy drawing per se and keep doing it. One must have the desire to achieve something they really want. One needs a lot of willpower and obsession. Not passion but obsession. The two are not the same.

considering how much i stress out about not improving as fast as I want to, or insecure about being a potential ngmi or whatever, I feel like this person probably loves drawing more than I do. I draw everyday, but at the same time there's many days I wonder why I even bother with it at all. I feel like the main reason I draw at this point is because I've already invested this much time in it, therefore I must continue.

but I feel like this person never questions why they do it. they know what they want to make, and they make it. it doesn't look good, but I feel like their willingness to share it means they must be somewhat proud of it. It's just a pure love of the process, despite the fact the process isn't delivering them good results.

Or rather, I'd argue that the process IS giving them good results, just not good artistic results - the good results are emotional. The personal pride of creating something in tribute to characters that mean something to you.

If that's what they need out of art, then they aren't a ngmi; they already made it.

>using people with learning disabilities as an excuse not to draw
snip snip

>>4208700
You really think people care that much?

>>4208594
Kek

>>4208625

“Not drawing enough figures from your head.”

What does this mean? Are they saying don’t use references to get better?

>>4208593
whats a pyw?

>>4211156
post your work

>>4209093
people spout this all the time, but how does one actually go about "leaning to love the process"

>>4211152
Draw from imagination to exercise drawing from imagination, the act of creating, and creativity. Basically fuck around, experiment, and have fun with your drawings. That’s the trick to not losing your soul.

>>4211266
Read Camus

>>4208592
just draw also includes drawing from life, youre supposed to jsut draw everything

>>4208592
Its just a kid give it a break

>>4211279
I love this! Who's the artist?

>>4211266
There's really no way to explain it poss. You should have fun while drawing. The act of putting lines on paper, measuring forms and angles, figuring out how exactly to represent something in 2d, it should all be fun.
It's kinda like video games. You want to see the end and hope the end is fun but the real fun is had while you actually play the game and do shit. If you only have fun after you beat the game then you either need to go out and find the fun or try a different hobby

>>4214274
Makes no sense, no "process" is fun. What's fun is the end result and being able to hold that over the head of people who can't or didn't find a way to obtain it. Don't believe me? Ask yourself if you could make amazing, perfect art identical to what you image 1:1 appear like magic. Would you not do it hundreds of times and lord how great it is over others? Of course you fucking would. Nobody enjoys grueling labor. It's the same reason people would rather win a billion dollars rather than have to work for it.

>>4215746
dude if you arent drawing for fun/pleasure then honestly how did you end up drawing at all

>>4208592
People say "Just draw" under the assumption you have the brain cells to correct yourself and keep on trying to work through your art and slowly improve. The idea is to help you work through the fear of making a mistake and not improving fast enough.
If you genuinely think that you will get better by just randomly scribbling on a piece of paper you are out of your god damn mind and are probably too stupid for your own good.

>>4211266
The way I see it, you basically enter a trance when you draw, where you are wholly consumed by the act.
That's how I experience it, but I'm /beg/ so a more experienced person probably feels it differently.

>>4214274
I sincerely doubt this is a common way for artists to feel about their process, whether they're /beg/ hobbyists or professionals.

>>4216120
this sounds like hippie bullshit

>>4215746
>>4216265
>no "process" is fun
You either have a mental problem preventing you from enjoying things or you have participated in very few activities. No matter what you're doing the fun is usually had during the activity and not afterwards.
>Would you not do it hundreds of times and lord how great it is over others? Of course you fucking would
Fuck no. Making shit poof into thin air is boring. It'd feel the same as just googling for an image
>Nobody enjoys grueling labor
You misunderstand art. Or fun in general. Hobbies should not be grueling labor. Piano players don't moan and whine when they do scales or dread time when they're just piddling around doing riffs. Writers do not fear the hours they spend typing out and dreaming up the events of their novel, nor do they shut down when they realize they have to check over their work for errors.
Yes, doing some of the tedious things are tedious, but there should always be *some* fun to be had.

>>4214268
A friend, dunno how’d they’d feel about their blog being shilled so I don’t think I can give you it

>>4216296
can't you just ask them?

>>4215746
Is this post ironic? I don't believe this level of autism is possible, even on this site.

You can "just walk", but where would you go if you just walk? You need to walk towards a destination, and it requires planning your trip if you want to reach it in an effective way...
Find a destination, and get yourself a map with vantage points on it...
>>4208660
NO, it's drawing harder AND smarter.

>>4211266
You're either passionate about something or you aren't, man.

>>4216265
Do you have any legitimate hobby or are you some kind of emotionless AI?
Ever had a fun experience that you enjoyed without caring about its end?!

>>4217672
>I don't find this particular thing fun
>what??? you don't know what fun is??? you've never had fun in your life?!?

jesus christ, please go away

>>4208592
there's a clear difference between someone drawing just to get better, and a jap with actual autism drawing these just as a hobby. Know the difference.

>>4208592
Just draw and have an iq higher than 80

Take literally any advice and you can find some retard who took it the wrong way.

>>4208592
I'm pretty sure when this place said "just draw", it meant to stop sweating the small stuff and get something down.

>>4217697
If you don't personally find art fun then why are you projecting your feelings onto other artists? Just because you personally don't have fun doesn't mean anything about anyone else

>>4218025
i didn't say anything about anyone else

>>4218042
>I sincerely doubt this is a common way for artists to feel about their process, whether they're /beg/ hobbyists or professionals.
That's literally a statement where you infer what other people feel

>>4217664
You can "just sit" there and think about where you want to go for an eternity, asking for directions and reading every roadmap, but if you don't at some point "JUST WALK" you will get nowhere.
Also if you're "just walking" you might come up with new questions, see another crossroad that you didn't consider yet, or find shoes that are more comfortable to you.
Noone is telling you to "just walk", blindfolded and expect you to magically arrive at your destination, but we do tell people to "just walk" when they are just procrastinating instead of actually making steps.
Just walk, faggot.

>>4208592
Real talk, why are there so many of you who have no passion for art in here? There's much easier ways to get money doing something you don't have passion for.

>>4208601
You have a natural tendency to draw the same things over and over and stay in the comfort zone. Always. Sometimes I go a whole day drawing a reiteration of one thing (which is OK if that thing is new) and I notice that, say, I'm repeating a hand pose over and over again. You never stop doing it especially if you draw off your head, and it's something you have to actively challenge.
There's also a general lack of curiosity in these artists who never improve. I doubt they actually like art or ever try to imitate a technique they see somewhere. They just spam drawings without really trying to achieve anything.
And last but not least,
>>4208629
Autism, literal autism. This is what autistic people do, they just do the same thing over and over. It's not an artistic act, it's an act of repetition. If you are a normal person and you just draw a ton while attempting to challenge your comfort zone (and you will if you're not autistic) you will improve.

>>4218114
It's because they like to mentally wank themselves off, imaging how their friends and family will be slobbering over their artwork instead of putting in real effort. It's like that one friend who comes up with a semi great ideas, starts a project, then never follows it through. They just like the idea of being good not actually being good. If these types of people think than can even remotely make an income from art they're completely delusional. Even if someone had a raging boner for art the chance of them being successful is extremely slim.

>>4218075
I've met tons of artists and maybe a couple of them actually seem to have fun with the act of drawing. that's just my personal experience, but it's easier to draw conclusions based on that than to assume every artist I *haven't* met loves their process. call it whatever buzzword you want, I don't even know why you care

>>4215746
>>4216265
I'm not >>4214274 but I get a sensation like frisson from drawing in pencil and just seeing the lines appear and the feel of graphite of paper gives me immense pleasure and it's the only thing that completely calms me when I'm stressed. Watercolor is very beautiful to work with too but I am quite literally addicted to graphite, it's such a simple direct medium yet so powerful.

>>4218159
>immense pleasure
uhhh okay, whatever works for you I guess

>>4218157
>I don't even know why you care
Because retards like you who say one thing and then either shift goalposts or pretend that they didn't say it is why the average IQ on this site is in the single digits

>>4218157
Holy fuck the autism. Dude being an artist is probably the worst profession you can do in terms of income and availability. You need to tell your artists friends who don't enjoy art to go to a fucking trade school and to stop being retarded. Seriously, if they don't enjoy doing art then DO LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE! Anything is almost better and safer then being a fucking artist. It's a stressful career and it takes some serious passion, obsession, and enjoyment to not off yourself on a nearby nature park trail. Furthermore, if they're doing it as a hobby and don't enjoy it then they need to go take a fucking walk and rethink their priorities. I honestly can't imagine how anyone would pickup a hobby they don't enjoy. Why? Just to mentally torture yourself? Its retarded.

>>4218165
well excuse the fuck out of me for thinking you were referring to the post you replied to instead of the one made a day and a half ago

>b-but muh goalposts
stick one of those goalposts up your ass and save the other for the next anon you bother arguing semantics with