/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

aight whât ya tink ouo

>>4178187
leave beg

>>4178190
this is my second painting idk ya sure

>>4178190
shut up retard.

>>4178184
From the last thread >>4178162
How does one do landscapes? Any sources that can help me out here?

>>4178225
Leave / beg/ great master

>>4178233
??? Do you understand the skill level in /int?

>>4178233
Thanks, but I can’t do angles for shit. Just boring “here’s someone standing” shit.

>>4178233
lol I'm gonna like this meme

Doing two reference drawings and one drawing from imagination for the course I'm on. I think my perspective was off. Tips for improvement or major errors that need fixing?

>>4178243
Oh. I was being mocked because my work sucks. I’ll show myself out.

>>4178257
also beg but i get the sense you're scared of letting things become distorted. look at your references. on the left, the front of the plastic bit surrounding trigger has become larger, it's obscuring more of the parts behind it

best advice i could give on how to make it prettier is to look at the form carefully and feel how it flows. the different lines form together a coherent whole. even on a gun, there aren't as many totally straight lines as you might think.

>>4178260
It's called a vibe check, kid

>>4178287
Never heard of a vibe check. You kids and your slang.

>>4178290
if yo gonna tam with the pam you gotta know your sysk.

cheated using a symmetry tool

>>4178262
Oh, good point there. I really did show too much on what I did. Thanks for the tip!

Any ibis paint users know what the difference is between these two?

When reading through and doing the pracices in "Drawing on the right side of the brain", do you really need to make that viewfinder thingy? I mean how important is it to build that thing yourself, the worst is that i can't do a few exercises but I feel lime that doesn't matter, right?

>>4178653
ads

Im /beg/ for some time now and Im learning to draw on paper first (since i've been told its superior to learning on tablet, im planning to switch to drawing on tablet in the future)
and I cant seem to get the eye symmetry right.
It ends up with one eye being slightly twitched and my characters end up looking retarded.
tldr; how to get eye symmetry right?

>>4178723
Eyes are always in line with each other.
So make a straight line.
Same with the head and the chin.

>>4178190
You leave beg. not because your to skilled but because it would be much nicer without you.

>>4178723
I think its very debatable if its actually superior I think the main factor lies in what you personally enjoy. If you enjoy digital more then its infinitely superior just because you will be more engaged.

I have been drawing boxes for a week now using vanishing point and horizon, trying to freehand it now, how did I do ? :)

Just posting some quick figures I did today for the sake of keeping it up.

>>4178771
anon why focus on outlines instead of shapes?

>>4178770
Fantastic ass.

>>4178778
He probably erased the construction.

>>4178771
Are you purposely skimping out on drawing toes, fingers, hair, etc? You should be more of a perfectionist if you want to get better.

>>4178771
fuck me posted the wrong thing

>>4178778
Like >>4178780 said. Drew with shapes first then did the outline.

>>4178790
Hair yes I skipped but I drew the fingers and toes though?

>>4178817
What do your preliminary "shapes" look like? I believe you're messing that stage up.

>>4178819

>>4178817
keep in mind the center of mass

was fun to make, but came out a bit flat I think + few weird unnatural shadows

I'm deeply ashamed to be posting this in a thread of such great skill but i need directions please

>>4178184
this might not even be /beg/ level but i'm happy i'm getting better

>>4178225
>hey that face looks pretty good I wonder why he's in a beg-
>oh lawd them feet
Practice some feet bro

>>4178770
That's a juicy ass my man

>>4178956
woops, and yes that a choker on her neck

Trying to convert Photoshop brushes into Clip art brushes.
Tried using Abrmate. Wanted me to install McAfee, seemed kinda sketchy. Anyways, to the people that use ABRmate, is it a good converter?
>>4178225
>9/10 would not suck toes
Practice 3D, use shapes for construction
Here's a rough example that sorta works for me, I draw them like space cars.
Here's a very rough example.

>>4179023
Heel is too popped out and the fatpad is kinda small, needs to be put further back. But you get the general idea.
>>4178770
Great ass, nice work on the tits, and amazing arms. Really like the stretchy looks of the arms on the first pose. Going to have to study this for a sec. You use any sort of reference?
>>4178930
Specify?

>>4178868
that would look too stiff and soulles anon.

god I wish i could shade and render and have nice lines

If I wanted to get started with gesture and figure drawings, what's a good book or video and/or course for a /beg/. The sticky recommends multiple ones

>>4179048
>>4178930
I don't even know i just felt like it's time to post something before i trap myself into thinking I'm doing things right on my own.

>>4178780
>>4178958
>>4179048
I think the GMI secret might just be focusing only on drawing asses. I wonder if anybody else has realized this yet.
These were a bit over 5 minutes each with reference. Most of the photos are from super pose books and stuff like that.

>>4179219
>I think the GMI secret might just be focusing only on drawing asses.
That's how LMsketch got his audience

I've been drawing on paper for ~10 months or so and I'm looking to get a drawing tablet.

I'm pretty /beg/, though, so... what am I looking for? Is there a recommended tablet for people who have no idea what they're doing? That is, good enough that I'll be able to draw with it without fighting with the tool, but I don't need like specialized artist tools or anything yet. Any advice?

(Hard mode: I use Linux. Probably not an issue though?)

Drawing cubechads is my favourite exercise

>Been drawing for barely a month and already stagnating

How do I stop this

>>4178184
What are some good resources I can use to learn about clothing and how it folds?
I'm trying to draw a robed character in a dynamic pose, and it's difficult to see what's supposed to happen.

>>4179268
In the upper middle one, the perspective of the neck and the face do not match. I would look at some reference to figure out how to draw the head from that angle, it's a bit tricky.

>>4179283
Saved this a while ago

My phone camera is ass and has smudges all over it. Is there any cheap/decent scanner I can get that you guys recommend?

tried recreating pic on the right to see how coloring works in photoshop
besides wobbly lines, what should I work on improving regarding how I apply colors?

>>4179345
Sorry but the first thing I noticed is that she has no clitoris and her butthole is a dot.

>>4179345
what happened to her fingers man

I've been struggling with drawing the hips.They look rather awkward but I'm not sure why or how to fix it. I'd really appreciate it if Someone could redline this

>>4179362
you want redline on 4 boxes?

>>4179357
Yeah i dont know how to draw vaginas. If anyone has any tutorials on how to construct them id really appreciate it

>>4179361
Hand is too small in general , was too lazy to fix it

>>4179357
>>4179361
You nasty bitches, he is asking about the coloring, not the actual work itself.
>>4179345
I don't know shit about coloring, but you did an okay job. It's not deviantart tier and pretty close to the original. I can barely notice the difference. Keep in mind, I literally know nothing about coloring.

>>4179362
I'm not a god tier artist and don't know what I'm talking about, but your box placement is just totally innaccurate to your reference especially in the chest area. You basically made the pose less dynamic, she is leaning forward WAY more in the reference image than in your boxes.

>>4179362
this is your brain on loomis

trying to draw the captain from blue submarine, will post reference once I crank out a few more.

>>4179380
Is the dynamism of this one better? (All I did was slight move the boxes)

>>4179401
Is this a compliment or an insult? I'm too autistic for this site

You guys are too good and it’s annoying desu. How long have you been doing this? I’m probably on my 25th hour or something.

(It’s supposed to be Nick Fuentes)

Doing this after watching Feng Zhu video. After doing these studies, what should I do? Just start drawing from imagination?

>>4179521
Read the sticky like god damn.

>>4179538
I'm doing loomis, nigger.

>>4179572
You symbol draw like an absolute fucking retard. Stop talking and draw. Tho i'm doubtful i'll see you in a few months since most people are just pussies who stop drawing.

>>4179588
lol imagine being this angry

>>4179588
Imagine being this shit

>>4179594
Imagine being so shit, and not taking advice even tho a literal child can draw better.

>>4179595
>>4179598
lol I'm already going through Loomis so the in depth big brained advice of "read the sticky" doesn't mean a lot to me. Make some friends irl so you wont be so emotional on here.

>>4179603
Doesn't seem like you have "gone" through loomis do something from fun with a pencil retard.

>>4178220
It looks like they made a sketch from life and then applied an ink wash on top of it for the tones. Best way is to learn the basics of perspective (Perspective made easy, framed perspective, perspective for comic artists, Marshall Vandruffs video courses, etc) and then to do studies of landscapes you like. The one you posted is fairly simple in that it doesn't feature any rigid man made structures so you're free to be loose with the perspective. The most important things for doing landscapes like this is having a basic knowledge of perspective and understanding form so you know where to lay down tone to imply lighting.
The best way to learn is to just collect a bunch of art you like, like the on you posted, and do studies of them. Some quick and loose, some longer and more intricate, etc. See how the artist simplifies nature, what kind of marks they're making, where they're laying down their values, etc. And then go outside and try drawing some landscapes from life. Think about how your favorite artists would simplify what you see before you. Then compare it with art you like and think about what you could do differently. You may also find the "Drawing Nature" book by Stanley Multzman helpful. It should be in the book thread. But again I think just doing studies and drawing from life on your own would be the most helpful.

>>4179521
Holy fuck you absolute trashbag. Add the knife then send it to him.

>>4178751
>>4178770
>>4178778

you can leave beg

>>4179620
Is this what people are like to you when you leave /beg/ and so you have to try it out here? It's /beg/ why are you upset that I suck? lmao

Everyone worse than me should kill themselves and everyone better than me needs to gtfo of /beg/

>>4179622
Then who will give good advice?

>>4179646
We'll develop a bot that spams "read the sticky" for the authentic /beg/ experience.

>>4179622
I'm definitely staying in beg, I can't even draw hands feet or faces yet.
Besides /int/ is scary.

>>4179653
The people in /int are pro compared to people here.

well?

>>4179277
listen man just keep drawing. Dont stop when you stop you fail

>>4179670
if your clothing was less static you'd be able to easier hide your incompetence in drawing the human form.

>>4179091
cute, try a bit harder next time and you could have something pretty. use less lines

>>4178956
roses are red,
women who wear chokers are icky,
symbol-drawn anime fag
please read the fucking sticky

>>4178778
great form, much love

>>4178366
holy fuck those wings
is it blasphemy to create such a depiction of an angel?

>>4179461
Got lazy I guess.

>>4179689
The ref, I suppose I wasn't hugely off but I'm not range murata level yet.

What fundamentals and general things do I need to improve. Roast Me

why are you guys not using krita right now. you have no excuse

thoughts?

>>4179670
Nigga, people have given you advice yet you STILL keep ignoring it, and fancy shading won't help either. Either man up and take our advice or go the way of Gains Goblin and get mocked relentlessly without giving a fuck.

>>4179700
-Line confidence (Peter Han dynamic sketching)
-Keep practicing, you still symbol draw. Ya just gotta keep grinding. "How angular is this line. How long is this line compared to the other." Break down that woman into what she is, just an object.
-LIGHT AND SHADE

>>4179700
1. line confidence - less scratching, more continuous, dynamic lines. lesson 1 at drawabox

2. less outlining, more thinking with forms - her lips and eyes are just flat outlines, think about the 3d structure first and try to build it up instead of focusing on what shapes you see. You've already done some of that in her nose so keep going in that direction.

3. this might be controversial but i personally dont recommend tracing (i see some tracing on your ref pic). the more you suffer trying to draw it on your own the more you'll learn.

4. compare the proportions i your ref. look at the vertical distance between her eyebrows and her upper eyelids. compare eye width to nose width. now go back to your drawing and check these measurements.

remember to draw from imagination along with making studies. even if it looks like shit now, do it. dont end up like half of this sub that cannot design anything and need a reference for every milimeter of their initial sketch.

>>4179729
change your artwork to black and white and think about what you see. ask yourself whether you're able to tell light from shadow. check whether there is a defined light source in your artwork.

next, the colors: again, think about the light source. is it a sunny day? is the sky blue? okay, so how do the colors of the sun and the sky affect the environment? how does a green plant look in a sunlight? or how does in took in a shadow? what is the color of a shadowed area on a sunny day? start on page 28 of Color & Light by james gurney, might help you.

good job on keeping the brush size relatively big. you should start implementing some brushstroke variety in near future. the composition is also not bad. read about focal points. i like the colors on the rocky areas.

>>4179737

>>4179736
apreciated desu.

>>4179283
... a mirror and some clothes that you're wearing, then strike your pose.

sup BEG, furry trash here, and first post, hows this looking so far?

Made this a 2 months ago

my friend wanted me to do more stuff for his site but i never feel like drawing on the pc, i feel too overwhelmed since still didn't get the basics.
I've been using Krita does anyone recommend it or should i switch for some other program

>>4178184
I'm designing a shirt with Chain Chomp Hime on it for my partner's birthday, this is an example of what it'll look like
Does this look good? And do the colors stand out in a way that looks appealing?
Thanks for any feedback!

>>4178365
This is very visually appealing to me and I dont know why

>>4178184
Used to sketch alot. Now started painting. Mostly do it because it makes me feel better, but would like to know how often pros on here paint/draw a day?

>>4179808
Me too. I think it's because it's so roomy and clean. Also the pepsi color scheme makes you feel quenched.

What material from the sticky should I study alongside Draw A Box? It's certainly helpful, but I feel like I might get stuck doing boxes for a while, and while I know DAB says I should also draw for fun, I don't want too get ahead of myself.

>>4179684
>>4178967 here, i'm currently going through loomis but I'm really just focusing on figures/cloth. Pic I posted is my 2nd attempt at making a portrait(which is fun to make). What about it makes you think its symbol drawing? and also, I know it's a meme to tell people to check the sticky but it be nice if you can be a little more specific. Theres dozens of links in the sticky, ty!

>>4179735
what advice specifically?

>>4179853
Honestly just grind forms and shit for a few weeks really can't hurt imo.

>>4179882
That's fair, I'll also read up on forms as well while I'm at it. Like I said, DAB has helped me so much with my art so far, even though I'm just finishing lesson 1 and I still have a ways to go, but I really feel like I should be drawing more than boxes or I'm just gonna get stuck in a rut.

>>4178735
lmao shut your gay ass europoor ass up and post your work

>>4179860
Previous threads retard, if that doesn't help check the archive to see if your posts got any critique.

>>4179345
didn't you post this days ago?

>>4179300
how's this?

I'm using CSP and Im trying to start practicing values but I dont know how to make a clean vector layer to make a mask out of. My outlines always come out really lumpy and terrible, and no matter how much trimming I do I cant seem to fix it.
How do you get decent fill layers and shit?

How's it looking? Any glaringly obvious things I could do to make it better?

I was just going for a quick thing here.

>>4180041
If you need a circle, then take a huge round brush and click once?..

>>4180060
no i dont need a circle, thats meant to be an apple
and just in general im not gonna be drawing very many circles

>>4179890
Unpopulair opinion: you're likely to hate drawing for a long time untill you hit a higher level proficiency after the initial fun wears off.

>>4180059
If you really want to improve you gotta stop drawing like a 13 year old. Focus on forms, not on symbols.

You can still do "quick things" and draw with depth. Basically read the sticky & loomis.

>>4179910
Yeah but the previous upload wasnt finished yet

>>4179802
I really need advice on it, do the colors clash or do they stand out in a good way?

>>4180112
I always feel like "just do loomis" is a bit of a cop-out response. It literally doesn't highlight anything specific. Except "Practice more" and I mean no shit sherlock haha.

This was a speed paint with the use of symbols in mind. I was focused more on perspective and lighting, which I thought was evident. Apparently not, my apologies.

Thank you for the input though. If I decide to redo this i'll spend far more time constructing it.

>>4180148
Do loomis = you draw flat

You shouldn't worry about perspective and lighting when you are missing the most basic things in drawing. I don't know why are trying to skip ahead.

>>4180148
you're talking about things like perspective, lighting, construction, but i can't see any of that in the drawing, it looks like a child drew it, like the other anon said. "the use of symbols" only makes sense when you're an experienced artist who is very deliberate about these things. as a beginner, symbol drawing is the first thing to be overcome, so it's best to avoid that

just start with the fundamentals, try to draw "around the form" (to the extent that it's clearly visible there was an attempt), don't give up when it makes you wanna kill yourself, and eventually you'll get it

>>4179521
Kek

>>4179521
lmao, it really does look like nick fuentes though

>>4180136
Holy shit remove the green shit and purple crap, actually make an attempt to make appealing colors

>>4179521
I'm somewhere around 700-800 hours I think, and I'm still /beg/.
Just kick back and enjoy the ride, it's not goig to end any time soon.

>>4179860
Loomis and drawabox. Clearly you haven't even taken the first step towards being able to think in 3D.

r8 pls

Sometimes I get fed up with doing exercises and proper study and try to draw a character from a video game or anime only to be reminded the hard way why I need to do that study in the first place

>>4180257
Study all you want, your 20 minute sketches of characters will never look good until you do some 20 HOUR pieces where you really drill down into it and see just what is required to make a finished piece.

i don't know what im doing worse at, stiff poses or bad proportions
I really don't know how overlap body forms or how to use figure drawing for stuff from imagination and i feel like a retard
guess i'll try going back to Vilppu for the 17th time

>>4180285
1. chicken scratchings / needs more confidence

2. bags of sand / tits too "rectangular" (see pic rel)

3. check out proko's videos on gesture drawing, specifically the flow and rhythm of lines, and the unwelcome "snowman" effect; it will give your poses more "spring" - make them more fluid and dynamic

good potential, keep drawing

>>4180317
Study more anatomy, draw more figures, abuse references as much as possible. Just fucking draw more to point shitting out anatomy and figures is a walk in the park.

>>4180254
Separate the values even more desu

>>4180324
thanks
i did some more before i saw your post

Drawn from imagination, no prior experience with drawing animals. Crits on anything other than anatomical accuracy? I know it doesnt look like anything it's supposed to be (a raptor and a gorilla), and that's not the point either. Crits on other fundamentals like gesture, line weight, form etc please

>>4180434
What you just picked up a pencil out of the blue one day and the first thing you popped out was this?

>>4180475
Nevermind I'm actually a prick because I read "No prior experience with drawing" which seemed highly suspect.

>>4179376
i hope it'll be helpful

Is this still wrong? I honestly can't tell anymore

>>4180513
Well, obviously it still is. Would appreciate some advice though, I've been grinding at this thing with Prokos tutorial for a while and these 3d shapes just don't click with me, those frontal lines especially, I can't seem to make them "wrap around" the sphere. Never sure if the oval is placed properly either

>>4178187
learn how to draw a face.

>>4180513
The perspective is completely off. You have to learn how perspective works.

>>4180565
True, now that I've checked thats literally my next lesson on drawabox.
Website keeps telling me to "draw for fun" every now and then and the least I want to be able to do is a face so I skip into Proko a bit sometimes, shouldn't be suprised if it doesn't work out I guess

>>4180513
Spend some time working on basic shape/volumes and simple perspective first and you'll have a much easier time with this.

Is there a movable skeleton model online I can find somewhere that doesn't cost anything?
bonus points if there are preset poses that I can jump to instead of always trying to make a standing skellington sit down and then work from there

>>4180616
Proko has a skeleton app

What would be the best guide on gesture drawing? I'm currently doing drawabox lesson 1 to learn the basic shapes and I'm kind of stuck

Can someone please explain what is a ''form''?

>>4180632
3d shape

>>4180627
same here, anyone know to improve in figure drawing? I mean, how do you know you're not just doing it straight up wrong?

>>4180623
>app
>mobile
why do people do this

>>4180632
Like the other anon said a form is basicly a three dimensional shape with a volume. You can show this by showing multiple sides of a shape like with a box or by drawing lines around around an egg/sphere like shape to show that its actually a round ball and not a flat "coin"

Honestly, once in a while I manage to draw something good (I drew a decent baphomet last week), but my work is so fucking inconsistent that I'm going back to the basics My gesture is so fucking goddamn awful. Last few days, I tried to copy some drawings as fast as possible to improve a bit my observational skills while trying to improve a bit gesture and speed.

I'm going to spend the next few days drawings only feet and hand, since is the area that I'm absolutely fucking awful. I also struggle a lot with linework, I really don't know what brush I should use on SAI.

>>4180644
>>4180627
Make sure you got your basic volumes and perspective down first and then you can work with very basic gestures made out of long lines not much more complex then a stick figure.
Some people define gestures as the general energy, as the axis or the longest sustained curve and those are all valid as long as they show the movement and tension of a pose for you personally.

>>4180663
oh I see, I'm basically learning my lines and shapes but I haven't checked out perspective at all yet, do you know a good book / course for perspective? I took a quick look at perspective made easy but as far as I know it doesn't really have any exercises to practice with or am I wrong?

>>4180664
If you haven't already I would do the first lesson of drawabox.com. You don't need any crazy perspective with grids but you need to be able to comfortably tilt a cylinder/box etc in every angle so you can use those to represent an arm coming towards you or ribcage tilting backwards.

>>4180668
I see, that's fitting, the first lesson is what I'm currently doing, I'll finish that then, I think I just got a bit upset because I tried the figure drawings and it just looked like wet assholes, thanks for the help anon

>>4180663
>>4180669
Just to show you a bit more of how it went for me when I first started it looked closer to the one on the left then I learned how to make them more fluid and add basic volumes and the on on the right is what I'm doing right now.

>>4180679
alright, I'll start off real simple and add more once I get the hang of it, sounds good and is probably alot more fun than trying to do the complex one right away

>>4180683
Yeah this was digestible for me and the worst thing I see complete beginners do here is create gestures out of contours where they try to copy every lump and bump.

>>4180205
Honestly hope I get laid off so I can grind the fundies until I get rehired. Being a wagey is so cringe and time consuming.

>>4180679
if you're still here anon, that drawing looks digital, did you start out with a drawing tablet right away? If not, for how long did you use traditional pen and paper?

>>4180725
Yeah it is digital and I already owned a basic bamboo tablet for photoshop purposes so digital just felt natural to me. I ended up buying a screen tablet after a few months when I was sure drawing was actually something I would enjoy and stick with.
I've gone back to traditional for a period of 3 weeks when my pc broke down and I found that it all translated very well.

>>4180733
I see, I was asking because everyone says you should learn traditionally first, which I'm okay with , but I like the idea of digital art more, just having all colors and brushes is really cool, even to mess around with. Basically just unsure if I can learn my fundies using digital and still be okay

>>4180741
I'd argue that whatever medium you're most invested in will be the superior option and if going digital will make you spend more time on drawing then I would tell you to just go for it.

>>4180746
heh, fair enough, I shouldn't worry about everything people are saying

>>4180741
>I was asking because everyone says you should learn traditionally first
Heard so many times that you should start traditional but when pressed on it nobody could ever give me an actual answer. Sounds like one of those things that "seem logical" but nobody can really give a good argument for or against.
I'd say traditional is easier to grasp starting out since digital is a bit more "abstract" and has a lot of tempting crutches, but its not like you can just "skip ahead" with digital either, I'd almost argue its even more finnicky to draw straight with digital so if you can get used to that early on thats also a plus.
I just find digital much more comfortable, the knowledge, understanding and the arm movmenents are still largely the same so just opt for what you prefer would be my advice

>>4179858
Your eyes and nose show that you're drawing what you think people look like, rather than a shorthand from knowledge.
Try Hampton and Keys To Drawing.

Also, the sticky is very concise if you know how to use it.

anyone got any good sources for drawing digitally I managed to find my old drawing tablet with the pen and disc i gave up on when i was like a still in middle school.

I want to transcend from pixle shit to pixle SOUL. How do I stop being shit? I made a magic owl that stares at people but uh.. well, just look at it. It's awful. Where do I start to stop being shit?

These are some very old MS paint doodles, might be a good starting reference point for help. Going to follow up with something recent.

>>4180887
Concept: Owl wizard that stares at people.
Result: turd with eyes
I was trying to make it fit set dimensions as well.
Atm, using Paint.Net with just a mouse.

>>4180204
Thanks! Will do
I wanted it to have parts that stood out on the shirt since the shirt will be black. I guess the black and red is enough?

>>4180872
I'm the guy from the comment chain just above. Personally I just applied all the various resources on drawing in general traditional or digital it really doesn't matter.
The only two beginner tips I can hand out is that small non-screen tablets have lower precision which is still fine but it takes a bit of getting used to and it can be harder to draw from the full arm. And don't be afraid to use a bit of the stabilizer tool (not to high but like 5-20%) and especially on a non-screen tablet you're going to want to just make ample use of it.

>>4180887
>>4180890
Here is a crystal I just decided to test pls respond or direct me to the pixel shitters board.

>>4180552
kinda too general
too late i guess

Would anyone mind giving me some tips on how to make my art more appealing using only graphite? I'm studying fundies occasionally when I get time, but more than that. Adding full color pieces really isn't my thing currently, though I can accent with colors. Any feedback would be appreciated.

can't escape chicken scrathing ;_;

>>4181117
It's okay to chicken scratch the base work, just set the base to lower opacity and draw over it in a different layer with confident strokes.

Looking for advices.
So far I've been drawing from imagination, I know people keep repeating to exercise and copy stuff but I hate this shit.

>>4181151
If you don't plan to put those hundreds of hours in to study and excersize then you only have two options. Grow content with your current skill level or quit. That sounds harsh but that's just the reality your facing.

Can I get some critique on these two drawings from the first exercises of Perspective Made Easy? I kind of combined these two exercises in two different drawings.

>Stand in the center of a straight level highway. Draw it as you see it -- disappearing in the distance. Add a sidewalk parallel to it. Add two rows of telephone poles. Add a fence beside the walk.

>Draw a railroad on the prairie sketched from the center of the track. Show a highway crossing it in the foreground.

0/1

>>4181157
1/1

Just starting drawing like 3 days ago and found a lot of enjoyment in learning this new skill, I know a lot is wrong but I am a very beginner and I am currently reading through the sticky, attatched is the example of the picasso thing drawn upside down for practice, let me know any tips or anything, thanks in advance hope im going the right direction not the wrong way.

redline/crit/opinion
I realize there's not a whole lot here - just dont want to run into problems later on so I thought Id ask.

I just got a drawing tablet

>>4181292
No problems. It looks good.

my first ever semi real drawing ever

>>4178881
What the fuck is this doing on /beg/
You're too good for this place. Leave. Never come back. I'm sorry, but you've gotten too good to ever be welcome here again. Goodbye.

>>4180136
I'd say if you only kept either the purple or green, it'd work and be super appealing, but with both it just confuses the eye too much and draws too much attention from areas like the face, which should be the focal point (though the use of the red in the eyes is really effective). Maybe you could rim the teeth with red or something to draw the focus back? Just a suggestion.

Should beginners like me be crosshatching instead of smudging? I just can't get it right even on simple shapes like this.

>>4181652
Never smudge

>>4181652
No, crosshatching is more advanced in my opinion. Your efforts look good, just remember to avoid smudging too much and to think of hard/soft edges

figure practice

red is from reference, green is from imagination

Stupid e-boys

Is this any better than my Nick Fuentes pic? (Don’t worry I’m done with drawing stuff like this for awhile, starting drawbox today)

How can I make sure I'm getting the most out of a drawing class? I feel like I've hit a wall where I'm just copying shapes and no longer learning new things about technique and spatial dynamics. Pic semi related, although I already can see that I smudged it to hell

Going to post some inktobers, looking on advice on what to do with art exercises/study to help me better understand form/construction. But any advice is greatly appreciated.

Beg feels

>>4181652
Cross hatching is is own exercise.

>>4181873
someone should draw a "what you see vs what she sees" meme with just the boxes or with boxes plus loomis heads.

>>4181877
Is that your way of saying my drawing is fucked up?

>>4181891
No, it's just the same angle as the "what she sees" part and it's funny to see that with the box around it.

Yeah , I'm a drawer since childhood from a foreign country , how's my art ?

>>4181925
Read the sticky you uberbeg

>>4181929
What's a sticky ?

How do I into forms?

I have absolutely ZERO sense of form.

>>4181976
Look at them. Touch them and feel them.

>>4182022
I don't understand

tell me things you personally do to improve your anatomy Anon

>>4182026
Molest those forms

>>4182058
What?

How do I start learning to draw sexy men?

holy fuck /beg/ dont crucify me
what should I focus on improving? (inb4 everything)

>>4182089
why is he green lol

>>4182089
everything, starting on how to make lines

it was good you did this before reading the sticky, now you know you aren't megatalented da vinci who can skip the basics everyone else needs to do

>>4182100
im slightly colorblind and havent thought I will simply add a new layer for shading, my bad

>>4182101
is there a tool/brush that helps make straight outlines or is it all just practice? I find it really hard to make it look smooth, im using krita

>>4182055
I was a master of anatomy from a young age since I had licked up so many fine ass females of all shapes and sizes and memorized every inch of their form, feel me? Sometimes if I forget some detail I close my eyes, stick out my tongue and wiggle it around until it all cums back to me. "Mhm dats what the booty hole be like, dats right just like that mhm"

>>4182106
>slightly
Haha, just give up now while you're ahead. You might as well see in black and white.

>>4182106
So do you see White and Asian people as green or grey?

I'm sure there are tools to help color blind people but don't even worry about color right now, that comes later.

>>4182106
>slightly
bro...

At what point should I move on to the next lesson for drawbox? I know it's not a one and done forever kind of thing, I just mean should I wait to do the other lessons another day or do several in a row?

wip

Tried redrawing something from before. Hopefully it's obvious that the new one is on the right.

I know people are going to say
>"AHHH FURSHIT"
But I wanted to try something different because humans get boring.
Also, this is the first time I have used a ref to try and get anatomy relatively close.

>>4182109
At first I didnt, but I understand exactly what you mean. Thank you sir.

>>4182230
AHHH FURSHIT

>>4182236
thank

Here we go.

>>4182089
Just the typical beginner stuff. stop drawing portraits or complete figures and spend a few weeks or so learning how to draw Three dimensional forms and basic perspective.

>>4182063
About the same, Just focus on developing basic fundamental drawing skills

>>4181976
Try spending some time on the first lesson of drawabox.com

owo is this cute

hey guys
this is the most polished thing I've done all month. I see big issues with the foreshortening of the left leg, the lower right extra hand's anatomy (though that's because I simply didn't care to do it better, so blame my bad discipline) and I don't like the long straight wrinkle line on the side of the upper left extra hand. The left shoulder also could use less visual seperation.
Is there anything else yall see? Any proposed fixes? I used a reference and very bare bones construction (think sticks with ball joints).

>>4181652
My high-school art teacher always said "if you smear, you're queer", so..

>>4182220
cute and cool Kino, hate how bastardized she's become

>>4182312
Very
Chair's out of perspective

bobs

I dunno.

Why do all of these youtube tutorial guys talk about how important it is to draw from the elbow and shoulder but whenever I see them draw they're always using their wrist unless they're drawing a large circle or ellipse?

>>4182526

Well not sure about all artists but proko always uses his arms when doing gestures.
Try practicing it for a few days doing ellipses and lines in a specific direction. you'll actually prefer using it for anything big and like a curve or line

>>4182548
Oh I'm going to do it as I go through draw box and all of that, not going to rationalize my way out of getting it down since I do think it's necessary for at least some things regardless but I just found it weird that so many guys I watch almost always use their wrist aside from a few lines.

>>4181891
No lol he didn't mean anything negative by it

>>4182554
From what i remember its not that youre not supposed to use your wrist and forearm, and more that doing it from the shoulder is something really unusual for a beginner but vital to learn so you should get used to it as fast as possible

Mym from Dragalia lost
Areas to improve?

>>4182500
Unpopular opinion: tits are great

how do I practice anatomy
should I be doing those circle things

Tried out bean stuff after watching Proko's video on it. Anatomy on the left shoulder/upper left back is fucked but it's an improvement. Also I'm too tired to do the head now.

Ok, so this is probably the best thing I’ve done in a while. Thoughts?

>>4178184
How I am doing beg?

r8 desu

>>4182853
Its so abstract you can't really rate it or give much feedback. It looks rather formless and flat so I guess it's "read the sticky"? But who can say for sure with something like this.

>>4182564
This is what you should mostly do whenever possible. If you're line is to short its fine to move down to the forearm or wrist but generally speaking the shoulder joint is more stable then the wrist.

>>4182948
Thank you for responding. In terms of it seeming abstract, I had thought that it sort of ended up looking like a woman, even though that wasn’t what I was going for initially. Also, I checked out the sticky, and I’m not sure what part you’re referring to.

I'm currently doing Hampton's video course and came across pic related. Wouldn't this result in a 10-head body, which would be a bit excessive? Or am I missing something?

>you guy told me to go back and practice loomis and figures
>have been for few months now
>actually improved
>getting kind of bored
>decide to do a painting
>redraw an attempted painting
>redraw is a lot better
>terrified to paint now because i didnt do 100,000 hours of nma and studies
wat do

>>4183007
I put read the sticky in quotations because its just such a general criticism but basically what I ment was that based on what little you're showing there it can't be judged if you have a grasp of any of the most basic concepts like form and perspective.

>>4183049
I haven't done the course but yes this would result in a 10/11 head body (Longer legs are stylistic) which is indeed a little bit excessive but among super hero type characters its not uncommon to see 9-12 heads.
Of the top of my head a character like bayonetta is of similar proportions.

>>4183052
You could honestly spend much longer just drawing imo. Aside from that just start painting simple shit and realize that you'll be bad at it until you practice more. Don't get caught up in any individual work because it's all just fodder for your progression.

>>4179684
Feels like you spent all your time on the head and then just rushed out/gave up on everything below it.

>>4183107
well this is what i redrew. i spent 10 hours on the right, the. forgot about it for months. the. i redrew it with a more challenging/interesting perspective and composition and it reads a lot closer to what i had in mind. is the left drawing more appealing than the right

>>4183122
I would absolutely agree that the one on the left is more appealing but at the same time I'd argue the point has been proven and I wouldn't stress to much about havint to bring it to completion honestly.

>>4183119
Looking at all the drawings you've posted in the last few threads I would advice you to dial it back a little bit in terms of time spend per drawing and instead spend more time doing quick 1-5 minute gestures. The proportions especially are frequently off. Just looking at this drawing her right arm is to long especially on the forearm. her left upper arm is to short. the torso is to big, the shoulders are to wide. her thighs are to short just to point out a few proportional issues.

How come there are young teens who are able to draw well despite not being formally trained in the fundies department?

>>4183169
Because formal training won't help your untalented ass.

>>4183170

>>4178365
I like this alot

>>4183169
because they draw for fun

>>4183169
Name some.

>>4183169
Copying their favorite artists to learn some taste and appeal. Drawing what they like for fun.

>>4181652
The outline destroys your picture, especially in the lights. The whole point of using value is to make subjects without line. Erase the outlines and observe the loat edge from the lights, it will look much better.

>>4181828
Challenge yourself, try drawing a scene like the image you poated with a different camera position, and a different lens. Try telling a story with just the environment, this can be done with the type of camera lens you choose, its position, and subtext within the environment.

>>4182026
They mean you should observe forms to see the contour lines that allow you to recognize its form. Then you should draw those forms while actually trying to feel it on your paper, especially when you add contour. An easy way to introduce this idea to you is (if you aren't celibate) draw a woman's legs with thigh highs, your monkey brain will automatically feel her warm skin as you draw the forms, then when you draw the contour of where the thigh high ends, you'll automatically be able to feel the soft thigh, and coarse fabric as you wrap it around the thigh.

>>4182055
Drawing with straight lines like Shifu Bridgman

>>4182277
Study Escher

I want to practice drawing armor, is there a good source to start at, or should I just buy an armor glossary and start from scratch there? please help

>>4183170
That’s peak ngmi thinking

I did this rough sketch at 3:00/4:00 AM last night, don't know why.
All of the figures are really small, and I noticed how I tend to do lots of stylization in these cases, and also how I'm starting to use the same kind of trait.
Since it's basically a draft, I'd like to keep it 2H only (4 on a US scale, a hard pencil intended for technical drawing rather than sketches).
Bonus points for those who recognise the film.

>>4182230
Looks good

fucking proportions, i'll never get this shit down

What do you think?
First painting so don't go too hard on me

>>4179323
Try notebloc

>>4183294
It's more to do with your anatomical knowledge than prorportions. The figure where we're looking up at to the right of the figure with values, looks great.

I'm just tracing cosplayers pic, is this a good thing to do? I really can't draw for shit just with reference

>>4183426
If you're just tracing the outlines it's not too useful try tracing while adding construction plenty of tutorials on that.
Even then it's not too useful alone since you'll forget most it. After that You'll want to copy it too so draw it while looking at it with construction then move the copy to the cosplayer see any mistakes fix them do it alot of times for one cosplayer. Proko figure drawing on YouTube is pretty good

>>4183441
I should start drawing nude figures (though its hard since my parents are always home). Really don't know where this guy's crotch should be.

Guess I should study how to do contruction first then. Thanks for the help.

>>4183454
As long as you're not drawing anything pornographic I feel like anybody in their mid/late teens or older should be able to maturely discuss drawing the human body for artistic merit and it shouldn't be a big deal imo.

>>4183505
Yeah I'll try that

Sketch from imagination. Please critique, I’m starting to feel slow progress in my understanding of the figure, even if it still looks like shit.

>>4183552
As much as people here like to hype imagination the reality behind it is that you can't realistically draw something from imagination that you haven't extensively studied from reference first.
At this stage I would focus far more on drawing from a reference because there are simply way to many holes in your overall drawing.

>>4183104
Oh, ok.

>>4183762
That's one weird way to draw Star-Lord.

just want to draw comics. Don't really know how to draw... fuck me

>>4181828
I'm a noob but I just wanted to say I really enjoy the sense of space conveyed in your picture

>>4183291
Thanks dude.
I really suck at shaping out faces, and I was wondering if there is anything specific that I am doing wrong.

>>4183823
>don’t really know how to draw
>proceeds to post a very good pair of art panels
Is this some advanced form of humblebragging?

>>4178184

>>4183767
not supposed to be

Started reading a drawing guide. How do I know if I’m symbol drawing?

>>4183907
It's like those anons posting their progress comparisons and the first drawing they supposedly did when first learning is equivalent to 2 years of practice.

I keep failing at my tones. My images come across as flat. How are the tones in this? The paintwork is nothing special, I am just trying to wrap my head around the fundamental idea of it.

It looks right to me.

Self portrait, how’d I do?

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>>4179858
I... Is that motherfucking Doppio in the top of that image? I never thought I'd see motherfucking Doppio talk about boobies.