/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I think you've been on /ic for too long you need a break

>>4164997
we in post-modern now.

>>4164997
God I wish I was a female girl.

>>4164997
God I wish I was an anime girl.

>>4164997
*black female girls need more support in the modern art scene
>OP forgot to mention that because they are racist, excluding POC from support is racist okay

As opposed to female boys?

>>4165018
please support females of color in the modern art scene

>>4165017
This is why no one like you

>>4165017
claaaaaasiiiiiiiiiiiiiic

Garbage thread

>>4165017
Now when you say poc. Do you actually mean it or do you just mean black girls? I've seen poc too many times used just for the benefits for black people. What about the Mexicans or Indians or Native Americans.

>>4164997
BETA

NO, THEY DON'T - FUCK WOMEN, STUPID WHORES, ART HOES ARE THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING BOTTOM OF THE BARREL, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CRACK AND METH WHORES BUT ART HOES MIGHT EVEN BE WORSE BECAUSE THEY CAN ACTUALLY HELP THEMSELVES BY NOT BEING SUPERFICIAL CUNTS, BUT CHOOSE TO BE DEGENERATE SCUMBAGS ANYWAY

>>4165008
>>4165016
Why this not be true
Vent

i'm a girl but I don't want to make anything about girls, I'm making a story about attractive young men because there's so much generic bullshit with girls doing all sorts of stuff and all the background males are forgettable or ugly.
I need more hot boys. I don't mind lgbt representation but I can't stand that every single time it's either two cute girls or two ugly guys played for laughs. I want sincere m/m romance that isn't rushed and isn't forced. I'm gonna make what I want to see and my vision will be uncompromised.

>>4165133
We don't care that's why you don't hear those kind of bullshit from us. Negros don't work for what they want they just want to be paid attention for the muh I was a slave

>>4165185
>i'm a girl but
Stopped reading right there.

>>4165185
Yaoi it's pretty generic

>>4165193
I mean yeah it's yaoi fujoshit but I can't stand the tropes in yaoi either, it's so cringe and dated and I just want something sincere for once.

>>4165185
Ganbatte anon, the ugly male scourge must be cleansed from media till there are only hot men left

You might like Tj and Amal btw

>>4165199
The industry is changing to portray more realistic relationships, little by little. It's no longer blatant raping.

>>4165236
/y/ actually had a discussion about this in their BL thread

The west does stories about 'the gay experience' whilst Japan is more interested in letting women and gay men use it to express their sexuality

>>4165150
cringe

>>4165185
fujo's dont deserve rights

>>4165017
no, regardless of color or ethnicity you racist

>>4165236
is gay realism?

>>4165018
Well in a couple years people will probably need to specify what kind of female or male they identify as..

I mean you already see it around "I'm a girl (male)" etc

>>4165255
cringe

>>4164997
>try out Loomis after the fiftieth time
>it actually works
Finally!

>>4165185
>I'm a girl but ...
Do you have milkies?

>>4165185
How do I draw attractive young men? Do girls have reference folders for this? Can you share?

>>4165373
just watch/read a bunch of fujoshit and take screenshots
or if you're going for realism, scour pinterest?

>>4165373
Draw a girls face and give it pecks

>>4164997
>>4165017
men in dresses will the last ones standing
>superior physical strength https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlq85dL0C4
>can literally get away with any crime out there (whether it be destroying women's only property or raping kids)

>>4165391
the data suggests that trannies don't have advantage over cis females after being on hormones for two years.

they also can't get away with crimes, they get shot by cops all the time and everyone hates them.

>>4165373
I've bought a couple of reference books from japanese bookstores.
they're pretty funny.

>>4165394
>they also can't get away with crimes
>implying
this faggot has been doing shady shit and out right seeking under age kids for almost a decade, and his ass is still not in jail with some lgbtbbqs speaking out against him

also you have Desmond is Amazing.
>makes video with two homos who've went to jail by committing murder in the past and just got let go; also video had an image of rape drugs in the back ground (in clear sight and not blurry tiny pixels)
>in his interview his greatest fear is "I don't want to die"- which isn't a normal thing for 6 year olds to think or worry so much about

but whatever keep believing that you can fly, when you jump off that ledge reality will do you a favor and end your pitiful suffering.

>>4165399
He's in Canada

>>4164997
*Ahem*

I NEED A GF RIIIIIIGHT NOOOOOWWWWW AAAAHH AAAAAAHHH AAAAAHHH GODDAMMIT I AM SO LONELY AND HORNY AAAAAAHHHH AAAAAAHHH

>>4165399
lots of this shit is a stretch. yaniv from what i've seen has just been saying creepy shit to kids-- nothing actionable. the law isn't based on twitter cancelling.
and kids associate with ex-cons all the time-- again this isn't actionable. you can say it's bad.
i think you're lying about the rape.
kids are confronted with death all the time-- maybe a relative or his fucking pet fish died. way to look into nothing.
stop talking politics on /ic/, boomer, and also,
>whatever keep believing that you can fly, when
>lgbtbbq meme
stop posting cringe

>>4165403
Draw yourself one

Why do girls from ic get so easily lewded? it's usually them who want nude pics and larping

>>4165421
Do they?

>>4165017


You're already defeating yourself calling yourself a crayola color. You don't need "support" you need to get your ass in gear and work for it.

>>4164997
I don't want to go 100% with drawing/art/social media game because people will think i'm weird, already making me feel ashamed and all those thoughts stop me from drawing anything. That makes me angry.
Also i want to draw girls but i don't want to be seen as a pervert.
I want to die.

>>4165517
Look at all the weird people on social media and come back to me

>>4165519
Tried that. Still not helping. I feel shame showering me every time i post something or interact with someone.

>>4165522
Do you feel shame right now?

>>4165373
I remember there was a thread about this where the women and gays on this board were asked to post men they found attractive, you know, for reference. Don't know where it is

>>4165017
As a fellow POC, I don't fucking care. Kill yourself nigger

>>4165185
cute boy rights
cute boy rights

>>4165373
>>4165987
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3958021/#q3959888

>>4164997
is this the vent thread for girls


>>4165244
what the fuck is the gay experience™

>>4165185
Lmao, western boys are only gonna get uglier and uglier.

>>4165373
same way you draw attractive girls, you collect refs of them and study other artists on how they make them attractive

>Can you share?
>>>/cm/

>>4165236
The ‘rape’ is what makes it fun.

>>4165517
I hate the social media game, I hate all the unfunny memes, the trendy characters/bandwaggoning/the amplification of every small little thing into the biggest catastrophe.
I hate hate hate that worse artists who upload more often will do better than people who dilligently take their time.

I draw wholesome girls, I just don't mention my sex.

>>4165255
I find it cringe that you can’t detect such a blatantly obvious troll. Newfags should be purged.

>>4165403
3DPD

>>4165191
based

>>4164997
Modern art is fucking garbage anyway. The only way to make money in art nowadays is to draw p0rn commissions. You can also be a jew and work in the entertainment industry, but you won’t actually be an artist, you’ll be the overseer who watches the life drain from the overworked artists as sleep deprivation kills them. Sound hopeless? Well, this is why we need UBI.

>>4165998
>is this the vent thread for girls

yes, both female and male

>>4165461
coconut oil anon send me nudes if you dare

>>4165421
Artists are often horny as fuck

>attractive femoid
>paranoid personality disorder
It would be nice if I could use my cute girl powers to make my art more popular, but I'd have constant panic attacks putting my face to my art for attention like that.
I can't be successful. I pretend to be a dude and drop my handle and start new once I get too popular. I've done it too many times to count now.

>>4166132
>dropping handles and starting anew
>tfw absolutely hate this
>also realized I do it too and the reasons why
PPD really is serious shit.

>>4165373
>>>/cm/
>>>/y/

I'm a guy......

>>4166144
Hot

>>4166133
>PPD really is serious shit.

It's not.

I'm sick of ironic shitposting
It's not funny, it's not fun, and all it does is add cancer to a community

>>4166158
Same. I don't know how it got so strong over the years. Like 7 years ago it wasn't this bad. It's the same shit cycle in which discussion and controversy fire and nothing good comes out of it.

Best vent thread so far, based OP adding some spice

>>4166132
just tell yourself "who gives a fuck, let them think of me what they want" and do what you enjoy, fear of the unknown is a normal thing just don't let it rule your life and decide your actions for you.
Heck you'll just get more messages or attention as fem but that's it

drawing cuteboys makes me sad
>>4166158
it's fine when done well, the problem is that lots of people just use irony to hide their lack of humor or drive or originality.

>that one artist with 90% of their media on twitter consisting of black people reaction images

>>4166132
you can always give yourself a fake name and be an anonymous artist. there's methods of receiving transactions anonymously as well (privacy.com for instance). or go the bitcoin route.

>>4166188
The entire point is that by doing so, you're not actually anonymous anymore and have to abandon that fake name for another fake name.

>>4164997
I wish there's more girls here who are into drawing cute guys. There's not much discussion in the /cm/ drawthreads and it's slowly becoming tumblr 2.0

hey sexy ladies

>>4166221
drawthreads on other boards are kinda redundant anyways, instead they should fill up ic with more normies and tumblr bitches

>>4166221
I'm a girl who mainly draws cute guys.

>>4165017
Black female girls need to sit on my face.

>>4166236
>>4166221
post cute boys

>be me
>2 nights ago
>get off work
>”hey anon, got get a drink with us!”
>half Japanese half polish girl with d cups and toes nails painted like candy shows up.
> we talk, she kisses me in front of all my coworkers because something I say to her.
>itsbeenalongtime.org/shegoestothegym
>she goes to the bathroom to do a bump
>here’s my chance
>boom, escape, rush home, finish the night drinking with the smell of turpentine and stack lead white filling my apartment.

VENT: girls if you want support, git good. Your gender does not add to or take away from a drawing or painting. Or just skip all the bullshit and become a prostitute.

>>4166281
This sounds made up tee b h

>>4166281
you don't make sense

>>4165607
Kinda. But it's a venting thread so it isn't that bad.
>>4166002
Same. I hate how the whole game has been business'ed up. It also has directly impacted me by forcing me to want to upload daily but in the end burning me out and making me hate drawing.
>you can't draw that because you're supposed to draw the same thing over and over
>you can't draw that because then you'll be a weirdo
>you can't put any meanings into your pieces because it will offend everyone in one way or the other
Quality also suffers. The more i draw, the worse i get... because i MUST post.
Of course, i get ashamed of posting such low quality crap and i get upset.
I seriously can't cope with this world.

>>4165415
There's videos and police reports of this guy harassing people and their children in public places. With the crazy videos he used to have online that he deleted where he was asking little girls about tampons... Yeah I'm going to say it goes beyond twitter.

>>4165517
>>4166356
kill your (mental)self. Shut it down while drawing
It's gotten ingrained in your mind that you have to please other people in order to enjoy what your drawing, otherwise your drawings will be shit no matter what. I'm not an expert but it would be better to have your mindset undone with outside help from a specialist

>>4166356
Someone will call me a crab but if you feel like this and you have a genuine love for the craft, from the bottom of my heart, I urge you to quit. And I don't mean quit art, just the "making it" part. You will enjoy it so much more. For me it was the most liberating decision although it was painful. The "game" was driving me crazy, it was making me hate a thing I loved.
Now I draw whatever the fuck I want, however I want. I am insanely harsh on myself and I love drawing more than anything else so I don't need external motivators. If people are too lazy to desire anything but fanart and porn and cookie cutter garbage, all nicely packaged like a little corporate product on social media, they can keep that. I'll keep doing my thing and have a laugh whenever someone complains that everything is the same, there are only sequels and reboots, and there's nothing new on the horizon. Oh, really? My, my, how unfortunate.
Someone will call me arrogant but I don't care.
I'm on my way to completing a comic that nobody will see. It's just for me. I wanted to publish it but why would I? It will sell 5 copies if I'm lucky because "I don't know/want to market myself" and "I don't want to do what it takes". So do I really need the bragging rights of saying "I put this thing online?" I made a 20 page short story comic in the past couple days. Why would I publish it on Tapas so people can ignore it?
It's like having your own private garden. Would you sell that garden for a few bucks and have dumb people litter it with trash just for the chance that someone might become your friend or turn your free garden in a business venture while keeping the garden intact? Nobody will do that.

>>4166373
I know for sure that i'm not drawing to please others.
I feel limited and restrained by others existence and tired from the whole nature of social media being anything else than actually social.
Growing up around and being constantly surrounded by insecure narcissistic people who will eat you alive as soon as you show any openings or any signs of weakness or feel like they're being targeted, does this to you.
Not even a shrink could put me to sleep now.
>>4166388
hm you're right
quitting social media might actually be the solution

>>4166388
this
drawing for yourself and not turn it as some soul sucking job is what I prefer the most

>>4166372
Not that guy, but you are still mentioning shit that's dubious to land anyone in jail. Want me to look up how many cis male lolcows I can find that are creepy towards kids and harass people ok the street and are scott free?

>>4165185
>i'm a girl
invalidates anything you have to say

>>4164997
What the fuck does "support" even mean? Unearned asspats?

>>4165008
Eww are you saying you actually want a vagina haha so it makes men want to put their penises inside you haha that's so weird right who would want that haha

>>4165191
based

>>4166243
oof, cringe incel

>>4166221
There's a TON of girls who draw cute boys, it just depends on your definition of cute. Lots of girls draw guys more "masculine" but they're still cute in their eyes. Think like anime sports fanart, idk.

But yes I want to see more cutesy bois being drawn to fulfill my desires UwU

>A comic isn't a sprint, it's a marathon
God I'm feeling it
I can spend hours on an illustration just fine but 14 pages into layouts over a few days and I just feel exhausted.

>>4166463

>>4166508
they're all cute imo. I'm just venting out that there's a huge lack of them in this board that I can talk and shitpost with

>>4164997
>Be born female
>Fat and short

Honestly your gender shouldn't matter cause guys won't care unless you'll tall and have big boobs and/or a big butt.

Anyway my art looks like a third grader drew it because I'm shit and haven't been drawing in a long time. I just wanna make an anime-styled webcomic. :(

>>4166582
>tall and have big boobs and/or a big butt

uh no, but you should get fit to show that you care about yourself and your well being. Being hot is just a nice side effect to that.

>>4165018
I'm a female boy, what of it?

>>4166630
Hello female boy, I'm a male girl

>>4166633
I wonder if we have any interests in common other than /ic/

>>4166294
I’m knew it would to this place.
>>4166299
That’s why I’m in the process of making it.

>>4166523
kys roastie

>>4166221
>/cm/ is becoming tumblr 2.0
this is the worst thing i've heard all week

Why is it I'm only motivated to draw when I'm not home?

>>4166641
>>4166668
eat dck faggot

>>4166634
post your selfportrait

What to do when you are a one hit wonder?

>>4166821
Make a second hit?

>>4166821
stop drawing curly?

Since this is a f*male thread
>want to play the girl card for social media gains
>but also don't want online presence to be cumguzzling roastie attentionfagging

Women shouldn't be allowed to leave the house also they should be gassed.

>>4167171
Then don’t? Just be a normal faker?

>>4167172
You'll find love some day

>>4167184
"You will have chemicals in your body effect your ability to think clearly and you'll then disagree with the obvious truth that women deserve a good gassing" hmm

>>4164997
im so fucking burnt outttttttttttt i just want to be able and post cute girls on twitter and get easy asspats and inflate my ego with internet points instead of sitting alone in this hole of studies

>>4167210
love and peace ^___^

i want to die but i don't want to kill myself.

>>4165373
Hang out with a bunch of army and marine dudes. The armed forces is like a fucking candy store if you like fit young dudes. Like, real guys not this faggot yaoi bullshit. Some of them will even let you play with their dicks.

I just lost 6 hours of work thanks to my laptop randomly resetting itself. I'm actually crying right now, can't remember the last time I did. Does anyone know if SAI saves temporary files or do I just have to accept it's gone for good?

>>4165185
Do you have any advice for drawing hot guys? I want to learn how to draw porn with sexy men having sex with sexy women but its hard finding reference material for men.

Do you have any tips?

>get a massive caffeine addiction while studying
>after exams decide to get rid off it because small heart palpitations everyday
>now I can chill and draw in peace
>drawing absolutely drains me 10x harder than studying, can barely do one drawing in day
>back on caffeine, drinking even more than before

im gonna make it or die trying

>>4167297
You dont need caffine you need glucose. Drink tea with honey in it. The caffine is just making your dumb monkey brain feel addicted.

>>4167297
How do you deal with jittery hands? I don't even drink caffeine and I need help on this.

>>4167303
i guess its worth a try
>>4167304
only get em if I drink lot of coffee to an empty stomach in the morning, which I don't really do

>>4167282
They're gone but the newest versions of SAI 2 have file recovery.

>>4164997
>female girls
As opposed to...?
What other kind of girls are there?

>>4166409
dilate + stay inferior

>>4166582
>short
You do realize this is ideal, right?

>fat
Can be changed if you want it to be changed bad enough

>be me, trying to get into watercolor
>try it again today for the first time in months
>tfw I fucking hate it

For the longest time I thought I liked watercolors but it's just too fucking tedious and it stresses me out, plus all the little doodads I gotta keep around to use the damn things. I think I'll just stick with ink and digital art.

>>4166221
I'm a guy who mainly draws cute guys. I haven't drawn a dude not in lipstick, tights, or both in the last year.

>>4165997
That thread was such a shitshow. It really made me hate degenerates/gays/women in general and go borderline /pol/fag.

>>4167526

>>4167503
Try doing some abstract watercolor shit and then ink drawing on top of that.

fuck it, i started a blog for posting cute girls. i only have one life, i'm gonna do what i want.

>>4167545
post link anon ill follow u

>>4167225
why not share your journey with someone and push each other

>>4167273
seems like you enjoy gay men anon

>>4167551
because good art frens are hard to find, anon...
and i'm too scared to make socials and start posting again, it feels so exposed,, and id be embarrassed with myself if i flopped after spending so much time away trying to improve...

>>4167297

this >>4167303, your brain uses more energy than if you would work out the whole day, especially those who use it creatively artists, writers, etc. A lot use sugary stuff like sweets pretty much the whole day, but they don't give back much energy for a longer period of time. Try some natural glucose which is absorbed slowly over the day, instead of sugar spikes which last for 30min

other than that you can drink coffee no problem, but keep it black and get your own natural blend

I hate feeling like shit every time I see art that's better than mine.
I thought as I got better I'd feel better about that but I think it's only gotten worse. The absolute worst thing for me is finding someone who has perfectly executed something I was hoping to do. It just makes me give up on the idea completely. That just happened to me again yesterday and I was so fucking angry.
I really am more proud of my own work than ever, I wish I could just enjoy it and not be bothered by this.

>>4164997
I'm using line-of-action to do gestures every day.
WHY THE FUCK are there so many pictures of CHILDREN NOW?
I don't want to draw children. You can't turn it off.

>>4167560
I'm more surprised line-of-action updated than anything. They haven't updated in a very long time as far as I'm aware.

>>4167503
well if you like the look only, just get csp with some custom brushes. Also I think Ipad has a new software which literally behaves like liquidy water, dunno how it's called though

>>4167557
>and i'm too scared to make socials and start posting again, it feels so exposed,, and id be embarrassed with myself if i flopped after spending so much time away trying to improve...

I mean you can also keep living in fear not making a step forward if that's what you want, but wouldn't it be more interesting to abandon your old self and set out to become who you wanted to become even if you might fall a couple times on your journey.

>>4165185
I too am a femanon who likes to draw cute guys. I'm working on launching a webcomic and I realized all my story ideas have male leads. I tried writing one specifically with female leads and was able to come up with one I really liked and immediately ended up thinking of a better one with another male lead. I confess I just don't give a shit about girls and I don't want to read or write a story centered around one.
I used to post on the /cm/ in the YouTuber fanart threads. I'm not sure what you want to discuss or shitpost about but I'm around, for whatever that's worth.

>>4167559
I came here to post the exact same thing anon. I don't dislike my work, but I get depressed extremely easily whenever I'm reminded of the fact that there are artists out there doing all the things that I do with infinitely more skill. It routinely ruins my mood for days at a time and I have no idea what I can do to avoid it

>>4167672
you shouldn't avoid it, but rather welcome the opposition. You gotta overcome things in order to grow.

Instead of becoming a sulking bitch expose your chest and take all the artists head on; fight them by practicing harder and becoming better at art.

>>4167572
Can you post a page of yours?

>>4167697
That mindset doesn't really ring true for things like art. I've been practicing and improving steadily for years and I've been forced to "overcome" exactly zero other artists. Whatever this feeling is, it's not about fighting people. In fact the people I feel this the most strongly about want to be my friend, I just have a hard time with it because of the bouts of petty jealousy they frequently cause just by existing

>>4167503
what do you struggle with exactly? it's honestly not that hard.

>>4167559
>The absolute worst thing for me is finding someone who has perfectly executed something I was hoping to do
your work is not personal enough if someone else is doing the exact same thing

>>4167763
It does so very much actually, and I'm getting annoyed when begs try to project their snowflake issues into "it's an artist thing".
Someone somewhere is better than you and your only response is to let yourself become depressed for days because of it. It's not what an artist does, but a petty toddler who doesn't know how to deal with his own insecurities as well as blames other for his own shortcomings.

>I just have a hard time with it because of the bouts of petty jealousy they frequently cause just by existing
right on, just exterminate everyone else and be the sole le king artiste who doesn't have to compete or be compared to anyone else. faggot

>>4167785
you sound like a dunning-kreuger with his head up his ass. let me know how that exterminating goes

>>4167805
he is. the more you grow up the less relevant other artists will be

>>4167698
I just started outlining the story a few days ago so I haven't drawn anything from it yet, sorry. If you're just curious about my art in general I could post some if you want.

>>4167672
Thanks anon. In a weird way I feel better knowing I'm not totally alone in this. I feel extra shitty when people around me are like "just get over it" or "let it inspire you". A lot of the time I am able to get past it but sometimes it just really hits hard and then I can't talk to anyone about it so I just get in a loop of being mad at myself for sucking and for being a jealous loser.
>>4167779
Probably true. I do a lot of fanart, but I try to come up with unique takes on things. It's mostly the style or craftsmanship that bothers me though, not the subject. For instance, I'd been wanting to do some Castlevania collages and I saw someone do an amazing Dracula that perfectly captured Ayami Kojima's style and was so well executed. It wasn't even the same type of image I want to make but knowing I could never execute it that well killed me.

>>4165065
>>4165067
>>4165133
>>4165303
>>4165391
>>4165514
>>4165994
>>4166243
>falling for the bait this hard
SJWs are very easy to fuck up, just purity spiral on them:

>female girls need more support in the modern art scene
>no bigot, BLACK female girls need more support in the modern art scene
>no bigot, BLACK TRANS female girls need more support in the modern art scene
>no bigot, BLACK TRANS MUSLIM female girls need more support in the modern art scene
>etc etc

>>4166158
Look at the state of this thread
You KNOW OP never actually meant anything he typed, he's just saying it "ironically"
and you still get droves of fucking retards replying to him (and that other reply) derailing the fucking vent thread

whatever inspiration or motivation i had to draw last week is fucking gone and i have barely anything to show for it

back to going dormant for two months

Hey y'all, hope you guys are doing well lately and dont give up on your dreams ok? Its been rough enough lately with me dealing with a break up with a close friend and balancing between uni and drawing. Im thinking about doing commissions next year, i just need to sharpen my tool a bit, ill just to headshots and half-bodies for starters, guess i just need to pull myself together again since its getting harder and harder for me to be happy these days. Good days are coming anons, i belive in you no matter what.

>>4164997 You just posted bait bro you found are going to lose replier

my art was ridiculed again on /ic/ :(

sometimes I see people on twitter that get a certain amount of attention for their art and get jealous, only to remember that I'm already at that point. I always forget and it feels like all my achievements don't register at all. How am I jealous of someone for getting 50 likes on something when I get multiple times the amount of likes? What do these numbers even mean in the end?

my paintings and drawings are so generic that I don't get any comments anywhere, not even negative ones to improve.

>>4168170
me too borther

>>4168115
D/ic/ks can be easily baited since this is an ultra normie board.

>>4167503
I've been using it to color ink drawings.
>>4167563
Yeah, I use CSP mainly. They added some realistic watercolor brushes that I wanna try out.
>>4167503
This time it was just the terrible paper I have, mostly. It bucked at the first application of water and warped the wash so now it looks like shit and all the time I spent on the inking was wasted. And researching better quality paper, it's expensive and you need to stretch it, which means you need to tape it (using tape that won't come off and ruin your drawing board) or staple it (will also ruin your drawing board). And heavier paper that you don't need to tape is even more expensive and I doubt I'd be able to use my lightbox and trace my sketches onto it.

The whole time I was thinking "man, I wish I was doing this digitally", which is exactly what I'll do now. At least I didn't just into high grade supplies immediately so giving up now isn't a huge waste.

>>4168122
I needed this, thanks. I recently broke up with a close friend too and I've been having a rough time of it, especially since they were my only friend for a long time and I'm too afraid to share my art and connect to anyone else which kind of defeats any prospects I might have. At least you have uni, good luck and study hard, anything you dedicate time to really pays off sooner than you might think.

>>4167805
>>4167847
cope harder, you got the message

>" I just have a hard time with it because of the bouts of petty jealousy they frequently cause just by existing"
>let me know how that exterminating goes
was directed towards you obv lol

>>4167941
feel free to sure

>>4168136
thanks for leaving a reply to this thread silly stranger

The days when I have motivation AND the time to use it for drawing are ok, even if I make very little progress. But the days when I have zero motivation/drive/lack of ability to draw and have to force myself to pick up the pen are so exhausting and leave me feeling bad and not drawing for at least 2 days afterwards. Also not getting my Twitter rolling keeps me from trying most of the time because I feel like, if I don't like my art and no one sees it anyway why even bother? I know it's wrong but I can't help it.

I make non lewd cute and funny art and almost no place is willing to take my stuff. I know I’m literally /beg/ tier, but I think it’s due to the stigma. I literally have no idea where to go, maybe pixiv and hopefully they don’t laugh too hard at my studies of better artists, or I set up a VPN and post on Baraang while literally not saying anything else. Nobody bitched when I was doing shortstacks and normal people in the nude, but I guess UN peacekeepers are everywhere nowadays.

neet wannabe artists makes my blood boil, they squander the time on their hands doing fuck all and feel satisfied shitting out half assed studies. you're all a bunch of delusional fucks and you will not be the exception to the rule. excuse me while i prepare to get in my cagie

I finally got good enough to do the things i wanted to do well, and now i got a 40 hr job. Such is life.

>>4168490
seethe and cope I've already made it lol

>what's the best way to
>is it ok if I
>should I really
>is it true that
>is anime
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SHUT THE FUCK UP THINK FOR YOUR GOD DAMN SELVES AND JUST FUCKING DRAW

I need to stop being afraid to fail and take risk and accept that stuff is going to come out shit as its part of the process. However there feels like in the back of my mind theres something that doesnt want to see me fail, crash and burn even though i know it would be for the best. I hate this feeling so much and i want to overcome it...

>>4168616
I actually decided to keep an "ugly" sketchbook for this exact reason. I only work in it to do studies and just keep doing drawings or mindless doodles that I won't hate myself for in my normal sketchbook. Out of sight out of mind.

>>4167503
play with it first, then get serious.

>>4165394
>the data
what data?

>>4166975
By conciously trying to make a second hit I feel it'll never reach the same height as the first. And I dont have the stomach to make something I know will likely have mass appeal either, or conciously make an effort to retain followers.

It is just a raw feeling seeing interest in something of yours wane, while it only grows and remains steady for others. A harsh direct sort of reminder; "you aren't good enough".
>>4166983
In a similar situation, albeit on a much smaller scale because Im not as good as him. Also i never stopped posting and I still got a drop in engagements.

produce good shit that cannot be denied
eof

>>4165415
>shilling for Yaniv
First of all, yikes. Second of all, something not being actionable is the weakest shit. The guy is on tape asking people for the green light to go into women’s bathrooms and if there’s a little girl who happens to be having a problem inserting her tampon, to help teach her how to do it. Don’t defend this guy, gayanon. He’s not the hill you want to die on.
Also double yikes playing devils advocate on the Desmond shit. People like you are how slippery slopes end up being real.

>don’t bring up politics in /ic/
Then don’t bring up gay shit. Not everyone thinks it’s hot or cute or wholesome and if you bring it up we have the right to tell you it’s pretty gross. Not sure why it’s politics to not go along with it but shilling yaoi is just fine.
>inb4 hurrbackto/pol\durrr

>>4168165
What achievements? You should feel like an idiot saying this, no matter if you were kjg, krenz, and fenghoulie secretly all at once. Try this. Try, wherever you find it, to replace pride with love- of art, of life, of people. I think the more you think about it, the more you'll realize how much sense it makes to do so.
Or you could just wind up like
>>4168490
seemingly angry with people he looks down on for being happy and not drawaboxing hard enough.

>>4168245
>what is sage
Women were a mistake.

>>4168229

Thank you, kind anon ill try my best with uni. We're in the same boat cuz loosing a friend suckkkk, that person was with me for a while and then broke up with very innocuous reasons and i understand far too well on that. It takes time to heal but i think we are strong enough to handle it! the hour is always darkest before dawn. Dont be afraid to share your art to the world, im sure it looks perfect, keep on fighting the good fight alright

>>4168937
What’re you so down on >>4168490 for? The guys just saying that there are people who waste time all day on pointless things (I.e. vidya, posting in /ic/, watching YouTube or Netflix, all instead of grinding fundies or producing things. Creatives tend to do this. Waste time, not get projects done, regrets all the time they wasted that day, do nothing different the next day. It really is infuriating to watch people make the same stupid decisions day and in day outfits

I’ve thought about lying about my gender on Twitter just to get in on those sweet “looking for female artists for X position in animation,” and “woman’s art visibility day” threads.
For fucks sake, exposure and viral potential just get HANDED TO YOU every fucking month/week. You don’t need ANY help, just take advantage of what’s being handed to you just for existing.

>>4167558
That is some momscience, no you don't burn more calories sitting on your ass drawing than working out, and you can menage perfectly fine without sugar, glucose or carbs. I'm not a shill for a keto diet but such ignorance is triggering.
If you want to have energy eat somewhat decent diet, proteins and fats will make you more satiated than just carbs. I personally feel too sleepy to work after a big meal so I eat very little in the morning

>>4169015
Because I think it's the wrong attitude, and destructive, to that anon, too. What looks like wasting time or stupid decisions is not up to anon to decide, or judge. For some people, art IS their vidya, their wind down time, every bit as banal as whistling. To get angry at it shows some things, first is that that anon is overly concerned with the image that accompanies artistic endeavors(and whatever that confers that that anon is after- money, popularity, whatever). And second, has resentment over 'undue' status, when like so many people wrapped up in the other aspects of it, could probably use a dose of neet idgaf- mode. A lot of people feel pressure to make a living off of it, even just to eat, I get it, it sucks, cest la vie etc.

It's awful as a "hobbyist" to watch people day in and day out stretch themselves so thin they're creatively drained, to slowly train themselves until the life is sucked out of their work. To be preoccupied with anything else while you create is artistic death. There's a real difference in people's work depending on how much they feel it. It's a shame to me, wasted potential, that anyone would ever make something for any other reason.

There are many places to flatline in art. The scariest to me isn't at the bottom fucking off with goofy doodles, it's at the top, losing steam and even a sense of direction because you forgot how to play in the first place. Or worse- taught yourself to not.

>>4169017
you could just change your gender so you won't be lying :)

>>4169037
um no it's fact actually, like how much of newfag are you? You shouldn't blame others for your fat ass, and you shouldn't compare begs with actual creative people who use their heads in overheat mode for 15h a day.
Top artists gonna need that 3k calorie to even keep their body weight optimal, westerners use a lot of sugar, budget asians tend to eat 3-5 servings of ramen 300-500calorie each while working 18h a day,.which is barely enough as you can see from those skinny asses.


>I'm not a shill for a keto diet
>something something typical american meme diet talks
gotcha

>>4168941
based incel

I don't know what to practice
I keep doing figure drawings poorly because I have no other ideas and I feel like I'm not moving anywhere. I just open a reference folder and start drawing.

I want to get better at doing things from imagination, but whenever I do it coems out poorly because I don't know how to construct, and the books aren't helping either. It just feels like I'm not progressing at all.

>>4169100
what was god even thinking. i want my rib back.

>>4169310
post how you construct. we can help.

>>4169317
classic reference! definitely in my top 10 books.

>>4169319
Well you see, the problem is I don't construct the body at all because I didn't really understand how.

It's something I need to work on and really dig into, but for some reason Loomis doesn't really click with me. Took me ages to understand his head construction method.
Appreciate the reply and offer to help though. I think one of the bigger problems is I don't really want to spend lots of time doing stick figures since that doesn't teach me the anatomy. But learning the anatomy without learning how to construct and position a body in 3d space will end up with a bad result regardless, so I guess I just need to bite the bullet and go for the very simple stuff first.

>>4169333
loomis lies. head isnt a circle. watch how others construct their heads and mostly always its a egg/oblong shape. but you can internalise it in whichever way makes more sense for you. dome container for the brain and a box for the jaw. a piece of paper that is curved from being rolled up at some point. whatever it is, make sure its easily broken up into thirds for landmarks of the face.

I keep having dreams about drawing hentai but I don't really want to go down that route

>>4165017
Wow spoken like a true cis
Black female trans girls need all the help they can get

>>4166508
i lean towards drawing slightly masculine guys but i normally enjoying drawing cool guys and gals more than typical cute things.

I'm extremely paranoid of someone stealing or referencing my style and becoming more popular than me overnight, to the point where I don't upload art anymore.
I don't know how to let go of this feeling.

>>4169664
early onset dunning krueger

>>4168170
me thre broder

>can't into anatomy
>stop drawing for a year
>Get back into it, now I can't even get past the primary phase on any drawing cause it always looks like dogshit
>just want to do some lineart, so shamelessly trace over porn just for the sake of getting a primary done
>do lineart
>still looks like garbage
Absolutely seething

If I dress in more clothes I get all sweaty, but if I don't then it gets too cold

>>4169664
Kek look at the ego of this retard lmao

>>4169317
ugh you gotta be a man to demand that :)

>>4170467
draw naked while cuddling with your bf

>>4170467
Layering
Thin long-sleeved shirt and then a thin hoodie or something like that over the top. You'll feel cold at the start, but then once your body warms the clothes you'll be comfy.

>>4164997
mental illness is the biggest gains goblin. i hate it

Does anyone else have this problem
>Start drawing, it goes really badly and I get frustrated
>Have to stop and go do something else
>Repeat a few times
>After I've tried to start drawing enough times my brain finally lets me work and I can produce something

It's like trying to start a lawnmover. You have to yank it a few times before the engine starts. Except the process takes a lot longer.

>>4165191
based

>>4167261
you and me both

I’m starting to revert to chickenscratch drawing, thanks to immeasurable stress at classes and losing a hold on proportions etc. and it’s driving me insane. Thanks for listening

>>4165191
based

>>4170650
My main problem is I seem to burn out so fast when starting something. Literally after about 15 minutes my head starts to 'hurt' mentally if that makes sense.

>>4169098
Lol I'm neither fat nor American, not that this ad personam has anything to do with facts. This is not fucking rocket science, sitting on your ass doesn't burn more calories than exercise, post studies to prove me wrong. From what you stated, they eat minimum 3*300=900kcal which is below Auschwitz portion and max 5*500=2500 kcal which is pretty average for a sedentary manlet, idk what do you think you've just proved. Yes if you're pro with crazy deadlines any calories will do but you're not doing your body any favor, and Anon precisely asked what to eat to have more energy. Eating too many carbs at once will make you sleepy, you need healthy fats for proper hormonal balance and proteins to sustain muscle mass, I'm not shilling keto but a normal, healthy balanced diet, carbs+proteins+fats and variety of veggies. Go to /fit/ sticky for basic nutrition information. Holy shit I try to help others in this thread but this board is most angry and frustrated from all boards I visited, I'm done

I stopped using construction and started drawing shit in proportion to other stuff. Like I start with one eye then the nose bridge and mouth to draw the head. It looks better than when I Loomis....

>>4170882
loomis is a hack

made an instagram account to post my traditional learning progress, realized that I have no art friendos, and I can't bring myself to post on IC in fear of ridicule. Also I have no idea how the thing even works, I just know how to post the pictures.

you started this mess three years ago /ic/, fuck you.

>>4170870
Hey bud I’m on your side here but I thought it was funny reading this. As soon as I started think “hah mfw /fit/ meets /ic/“ and then you actually were from /fit/. I agree with what you’ve said in this thread though. People need to eat better (and preferably exercise occasionally) if they want to have more energy and people who don’t practice at things but complain about things not magically working out deserve to keep failing at everything.
But >>4169081 >>4168937 sounds like a girl and I’m pussy whipped by every girl in the world.

Is it wrong of me to not want to share my process or brushes with whoever asks about it? I've gotten selfish over having had to experiment and figure things out on my own but if a friend asks I'll go out of my way to make an entire tutorial just for them. A lot of "big" artists don't seem to have any reservations about it but whenever one of my followers asks I just get the urge to tell them to figure it out since they'd probably learn more that way anyway and just ignore the questions.

>>4170882
Many artists work that way. Loomis is not for everyone.

I'm terribly afraid of opening comms.

>>4171422
me too anon, I just really don't want my name out there in case twitter decides to cancel me even though everything I draw is extremely tame

>My normal art consists of lolis and huge boobed characters. I don't really share or promote my gallery anywhere because I know 95% of people online are into my big titty drawings and not my loli drawings
>I also do commissions of weird fetishes. Don't really mind it but by doing so, people think I'm also into said fetishes as well
>Potential client/Curious onlooker: "Hey where do you post your stuff? I wanna see."
>Link them my gallery
>Scare people off because of the loli stuff

>>4171646
have you tried not being a pedophile? you create your own problems here, kys

All I want is to be able to draw and design anime characters in cool/sexy poses in a style of my own but i have no idea what steps i need to take in order to do so and it is frustrating because it feels like i am wandering in a circle. Outside trying to learn the fundamentals and anatomy i have no idea what i need to do in order to achieve this espically when i am not very creative.

>>4171675
Among japanese girls adults tend to look like lolis pretty often. This may be an issue regarding bodytype preferencevrather than age.

>>4171675
Fuck off roastie

>>4171054
Loomis doesn't even do the Loomis method when he draws. He loosely constructs in his head and then draws what looks good.

>>4171646
Well, the target audience for both of those genres are vary vastly. Just because you like drawing both doesn't mean people are going to like both. That means you should chose one. Weigh the pros and cons.
If you stick with big tiddy anime, then you still retain your following and the ease of progression will be faster. If you swap to more of a loli focus, get ready to lose a big chunk of your audience, but don't let it discourage you because the loli audience is just as big.

In this consumer based society we live in it's always more efficient to specialize in one category if you are trying to make money. And if your goal is to not alienate your potential clients you need to stick to one genre. Pick the one you like more, find more sexually appealing, and the one you feel has more ease of creativity.

>>4171422
Do some requests for drawthreads on other boards. This helped me to get some confidence and ensure that I'm capable of delivering what people are asking for.

>>4165191
based

>>4170467
if you exercises your body heats up

exercises until perfect body temperature, then repeat when you get cold again

bonus: you get fit

but if you feel extra lazy somedays you can layer

Got yet another job rejection, after so many rejections I feel like my soul is being ripped apart. I'm useless and I just want to die. It just gets harder after every no. The ones where they just never get back to you hurt even more. Fucking hell.
Seeing the other people from my uni class get jobs in the industry makes me feel so worthless, it's been 5 months since I graduated

>>4172076
post work

>>4172076
Hey Anon, been six months since I've graduated and I haven't work either. Really I've only applies to about 14 jobs though. I'm sure you've applied to more. Do you do commissions? I've been doing some and making a few hundred every month and it really helps me, like, not feel so worthless lol.
Hope you find work Anon, you can do it! ^^

>>4165133
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF FEMALE IRANIAN ARTISTS!

Why are display digitizers so fuckin expensive? You can get cheap Chinese normal digitizers for like $40 that rival the features of "proper" ones in every way but build quality and still nothing for displays.
Hell there's not even "budget" options, like lower quality but inexpensive as opposed to higher quality at a higher price. It just feels fuckin weird.
I mean fuck, you can get an x200t ThinkPad on eBay for under $100 and that's a display digitizer. It's not amazing, but it's literally the cheapest one on the market. A fully-fledged computer is the cheapest display digitizer, and they don't even make it anymore.
What the FUCK is wrong with the market.

>This is it, boys. Getting close to 10k followers
>This is the one, aiming for 1k RTs 4k likes and a huge push past the 10k mark, gonna rub one out to seeing a nice 10.1 or 10.2k next to my profile
>Work hard, show everyone my improvement over the years of grinding; blood, sweat, tears and Daddy's cummies
>Better myself by taking my time, every curve is going to be perfect
>Post some WIPs, engagement is poor, just the same fags gushing about 'wow, you're so amazing', but it's okay because I believe in myself, believe that the finished product will show everyone to not doubt
>Know the new Twitter algorithm has placed my art in feast or famine territory; some pieces get 3k+ likes, other don't even scratch 1k, and I'll-be-damned-to-grind-Proko-anatomy I'm going to eat like a fucking king tonight
>No shortcuts here, just painstaking thought of the form, pulling from tons of refs
>Gesture gets a chef's kiss, shading: dynamic, feeling like 'that' bitch
>Post
>A response drier than a witch's titty
>Old work got way more engagement, didn't get past 10k, sitting in the 9000s still...
>Realize I clowned myself

>>4172172
I've never understood the obsession with follower count. Do you draw for yourself, or for a faceless blob of social media users?

>>4172172
About 90% of the people here are clowning themselves. The market is over-saturated with artists ranging from decent to great. If you're trying to do this for fame or money you're a God damn goob.

>>4172181
Honestly, started off just for myself. This was supposed to be the same. But, sometimes I get those goddamn illusions of grandeur. So it's nice to vent. I'm actually not 'that' neurotic, it's just, oof, I feel like a damned fool and just want to get it out there for a chuckle.

>>4172182
It didn't start off like that, but you're right, I guess posting online for long enough, and everything ends up a dick-measuring contest. Sometimes, I really need to hear from other people that I'm going down a shitty way of viewing my own work. All my Twitter followers ever do is wank me off, so some perspective is nice.

>>4170595
I rather think it's selfishness.
And all the skewed life goals, inherent short- sighted/ closed- mindedness, polarization, etc, it inflicts on a person. Robs you of contentment, companionship, and even victory.
And that's saying nothing of what it does to those around you.
No, being mentally Ill only makes you a net neutral influence, or possibly even an inspiration, whereas being 'gud' but selfish is a wholly destructive force. Follow?
Unless by mental illness you mean sociopathy/ psychopathy and narcissism, in which case, yeah, burn them at the stake?

>>4172181
>>4172182
Trolling aside, based

>>4171412
Yes, you're only gonna get more worked up about tiny details like that in the long run. If you have all your shit available though and do it every other week it'll save you huge hasstles imo.

>>4172094
Thank you anon, and I’m sorry you have to struggle with it as well, it’s incredibly disheartening- I wish you the absolute best too, maybe I’ll try commissions for sure, I think that could really help with keeping my portfolio up to date, that’s a really good idea

>someone likes all my posts
>doesn't follow

>>4172306
Whenever someone does this, I have this urge to block them.

>>4172306
>follow a smaller artist
>they like few of my posts and not following back

>>4172306
>>4172354
>>4172375
Are you fags really bothered by people unfollowing our not following you? What difference would it make if you had no followers as opposed to a hundred? It is such a fictitious number on a screen that doesn't mean shit unless you have them paying you for content like on a Patreon where a follower means they are paying you something.

>>4172354
t. roastie

Are you, a fag, really bothered by what other people are bothered by

>>4172076
>>4172094
>graduated
>spent 1.5 years playing League of Legends, smoking weed and masturbating
>not a single fuck was given about finding a job
>got tired of that shit
>just started doing commissions

>>4172375
>>4172354
>>4172306
Sometimes I really like their artstyle but then I realized this artist is a gigantic faggot who whines and post political shit on their feed

>>4165191
based

I'm a boy but where's my 500 replies

>Post something to twitter or pixiv
>Gets some likes and bookmarks in a few minutes
>Realize some small thing, but can't just 'update' posts so delete them, fix problem, and reupload
>What went 20 likes in 5 minutes the first time is now 5 likes in 20 minutes

I'M SORRY I WANTED TO FIX THE LEG, JUST LIKE IT AGAIN PLEASE I NEED THE TRACTION

Ghibli fans make me depressed. I understand Miyazaki's animosity when the only reason his studio exists is Totoro merch.

>lethargic all the time
>start exercising since apparently working out makes you energetic
>now I get to be mentally AND physically exhausted
I feel fucking cheated

>>4173535
You are probably depressed

>>4166221
Going off of this, I wish there were more girls (or even people in general) who drew cute guys but also weren't obsessed fujos or raging gays. Majority of the time now whenever your find a good cute male artist they're usually super into some gay pairing with the character or draw them in homo situations and it's very tiring to always run into when you're not into that, not to mention how much worse it gets when you are able to read the "woke" comments that some people will label it as. It's a problematic opinion to have it seems though so I can rarely ever say it without being labeled all kinds of things but shrugs.
>>4169017
I fit into a lot of these dumb Twitter tags and while I'm probably a fool for not just using them for my advantage, they all feel rather.... ingeninue. I don't want people to follow my art just because they wanna support artists of x gender and race, I want them to follow it because they actually like it. I'm not sure if I'd really get more people following me anyway if I used the tags since a lot of social media is a popularity contest in the end.

>>4173535
What's your diet? You are what you eat. after all.

parents won't stop harrasing me about getting a job

>Be homeschooled by mother
>Never really worked with me so I just ended up playing games all day every day
>Never learn the basics or how to study
>I fail at basically everything in high school
>Mother thinks my inability to do things academically is a result of some super illness and that I'm really smart and special but only if I didn't have the super illness
>I believe her
>Puts me on all these "natural" remedies like drinking diluted food-grade hydrogen peroxide
>Nothing changes, I become severely depressed and too anxious to ever leave the house
>Start doing art because I enjoy it
>Study it
>Realize I'm not afflicted with a super illness and I just needed to be taught how to approach a subject and study
It hurts knowing I could have gotten into art before but never did because I thought something was wrong with me. Since I don't have a highschool diploma and live in a poor town I feel like I'm going to be a wagecuck with no time to explore what I love.

>>4172873
You have to be a cute boi first UwU

>>4173291
I liked spirited away and howl's. Totoro is on my least favorite ghibli

>>4174254
kys skittles

>>4174334
Is Skittles supposed to be someone? Idk who that is

>>4172181
Why even post anything if you don’t want people to see it? What good is art if your doing it for yourself? You already know yourself and everything you feel and believe. The purpose of art is to show your inner workings externally. If you don’t want people to see it you shouldn’t create it in the first place. This “draw for yourself” shit is so lame and only crabs say it. Do you know the word amateur refers to one who does something out of simple love (amor) for it? I swear these little hipster dipshits who think they’re above it all because they pretend to draw for themselves are so full of shit. Just go meditate or some shit if that’s how you actually feel. Go create art that’s actually only for yourself and sit by a window with your gay little imagination and a cup of tea and continue adding nothing to anyone’s lives.

>used to be into yaoi/yuri in the past and am completely uninterested in it now
>wouldn't mind drawing het ships for commissions but don't want to be "cancelled" or called dumb names for not wanting to draw gay ones
Is there anything I can do besides just putting "no yaoi/yuri couples" on the list of things I don't want to draw that might help prevent this? I have no kind of following but combined with both people who I used to be friends with in the past when I was into this stuff + how hard it is for me to escape dumb tumbls on social media, I feel like they'd absolutely make sure I never get a chance to get any real following in the first place.

20 days behind...

>>4174498
Build the following and try to make a few friends. Don’t be in a hurry with anything. Make the connections first. Be arbitrary about it. Chat it up with the first person who will be the B in an A and B convo. Make it look like you know people. You may or may not be able to build from there but in whatever case you’d have made a friend, which is the most satisfying thing.

gay sincerepost incoming
>all my life, I've brainstormed cool story/worldbuilding ideas with the hope of utilizing them in a graphic novel
>unconcerned with the internet's gay popularity contests - just want to draw cool shit for someone to stumble upon one day
>I have no other purpose in life. burned my bridges and I'm totally alone
>decide to start grinding to get good while I'm young, tackling drawabox, perspective made easy, hampton and loomis with equal time to each
>have spent roughly 3-4 weeks agonizing over perspective, geometry and gestures nearly every day
>can replicate 3d shapes and gestures very well if I'm in the middle of a focused exercise, taking notes etc
>despite this it's still not fully internalized or repeatable, like at all. Either I'm a slow learner or this is truly hard to grasp
>once I start drawing from the heart all that shit just leaves my head, the emotions of the subject take over and I forget the proper methods
>give myself a headache straining and trying to make it work, my idea comes out looking half-baked - I've hardly improved at all
>overwhelmed every time I put the pencil down by a despair that I will never live up to my own standards, but somehow COMPELLED to pick it back up again the next day
I'm the most stubborn person I know and I'm at my breaking point.
This is fucking madness. It was so stupid of me to inflict this on myself. Does anyone else experience this?
Am I cursed to this forever? I see people who are older than me and stagnating, churning out garbage with no hint of self-awareness. I'm afraid of being like them.
How do I bridge the gap between 'exercising for improvement' and 'caring about what I'm drawing'?

I need someone with expertise and a respectable body of work to tell me that I can make it, that I'm being a faggot, to keep grinding and to struggle my way through.

>>4174498
You can say you only draw canon couples or that you can't draw yuri/yaoi atm because you live in a very conservative household.

>>4174437
You are right. I gave up on social media and I'm drawing for "myself", I really love drawing so I keep going every day. But there's an emptiness always there because I know I'm meant to share this stuff with someone else. But it's like every other artist wants to "make it" and only networks if it grows his followers. It's like everyone is trying to sell shit, I'm sick of it.

>>4174498
>I am held hostage by my imaginary angry homos, they don'y allow me to draw straight couples
Kill yourself.

>>4174762
Dude, stop being so mechanical with your drawings. Just fucking draw what you want and use the tools you've learned to help you craft it. The more you turn it into just boxes, perspective, gemoetry, gestures etc the more you're sucking out the imagination of drawing.

Post your work right now. I want to see what level you're at. Most of you people that go fucking mad over drawing are people near the beginning stages where construction doesn't even help very much.

>>4174306
>liking howl's
>disliking totoro
Full pleb

I think I've been depressed and wasting away for at least 2 years now. The last 6 months I've started taking better care of myself and working out, but my ability to consistently do anything is still low, I just feel so apathetic towards everything until the end of the day when an anger wells up.

Should I see a therapist? Do meds help? Will nofap turn me in to a superhuman? Do I just need to go outside and meet more people?

>>4175078
if you have already done all the
>routine
>exercise
>eat well
stuff then yeah see a therapist
and if you feel like you're beyond self-help definitely see a therapist

>>4174628
Thanks for the advice, really appreciate it.
>>4174777
I did consider that especially since the conservative household part is true but there's too many artist in similar situations now that still draw it anyway for me to feel it'd be a good usable excuse.
>>4175009
Must be nice to have never witness a situation like this I guess. If I was never involved with it before I probably wouldn't have cared as much.

>>4174864
Same. I guess i prefer the company of my gay imagination to being mistaken for playing a game I don't even believe in.

I know I should be doing copies of other people's art if I want to get good and have my work get more appeal, but I really don't enjoy doing that. It always feels wrong of me to take something that someone clearly put a lot of effort into, and make a shitty copy of it, or to do an imitation of someone else's type of art style. It just feels like a hollow version of theirs and not genuine.

I just don't want my stuff to look ugly, but it doesn't sit right with me even trying to imitate artists I really look up to.

>>4175333
I know there's no reason I should feel guilty about copying, but idk I just needed to get it off my chest.

>>4175333
>>4175391
you really don't have to do braindead copies, if you do it with analysis in mind you won't feel like that

posting sth and not getting any response is the worst feeling in the world

>>4166243
lol based

>>4175396
same, I wonder why I still post here

>>4175396
>>4175424
What'd you post? I'll comment

>>4176065