/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

proko forearm studies

when I tried to make the right eyebrow aligned linear to the left one, it looks ugly. Then I titled it up a little then it looks little bit better but the eyebrow edge is now stretched out. It was frustrating because I just can't make the two eyebrows arch out as parallel as I wanted it to me.

Updated slightly from last thread. Probably still the same problems but I still want more than one person's feedback. Anything helps, thanks!

anatomy practice from last couple of days

>>4163875
Shit, forgot to add the image, here

>>4163877
the figure, gesture and anatomy are very bad. work on that.

>>4164212
Is lighting also bad or subpar?

>>4164212
not him but try to put more effort into crits
almost everyone on this board is studying figure gesture and anatomy

anatomy and sketch study using reference

>>4166015
this is neither a study nor intermediate.

back to /beg/ bro

study

>>4165438
Love the Loomis face at the top left

got inspired by the tryhard anon, so i'm gonna start posting too

I've started studying gesture and construction again (read hampton before, but i was too beg to get it). Now i'm watching S Huston lectures

>>4167411
a little less rusty i guess

didnt study today and only did this just to say i drew today

from a recent commission

Is interracial furry porn still furry porn?

warmup

color study from life, 1 hour 40 minutes

>>4167414
imagination only to practice construction

>>4168922

That's nutty, good shit bròther

>>4168922
good stuff

warmup

>>4166015
>>beg
>>4167401
>>beg
>>4168899
>>beg
>>4170190
>>beg

>>4170247
shut the fuck up retard and post your work or i'm gonna cum on your sleeping body

>>4163862
I want to make semi-realistic portraits but with sacred geometry overlays.

It's hard to see the geometry, but any other color than white would have been too much.

Can post original prank if needed

rusty, trying to get back into it

>>4170321
kinda cool until u wash it out w the UGNGBHH COLOR DODGE COLOR BURNNNNNNN shit

into color properly i promise the gains will be worth it

>>4170321
Gross dude. Try like a redhead or a blonde or something.

>>4170321
looks nice

>>4170315
this is cool man, you're great. Just make sure you pay more attention to the compression of flesh, like squash and stretch. The fingers of the middle right figure aren't really compressed into the ground convincingly. The calves don't compress into the hamstrings convincingly either on this bottom right drawings. When feet are pressed against the ground the toes should spread out to grip the ground, not stay bunched together. The ones on the top left are pretty good though

But all of the above is really easy to fix for you, just pay more attention to it from now on.

>>4170340
Thanks. Will do.

>>4170321
Like this a lot

>>4163862
Hey you guys want to study with us? We're missing a few members, we study everyday.

Felt pretty good about this one,thoughts?

>>4170766
Study where?

>>4170943
Good start. Study more perspective. Keep your forms straightened rigid, as you're drawing mechanical objects. Your tank is kinda floppy.

>>4168922
checked and nicely done

>>4168922
checked and nicely done

The level of this thread is good, I think Intermediate are just pro's with no experience and with no idea if they're improving or not, at least that's my case lmao

>>4163877
Agree with >>4164212, gesture is not that bad, but the shape of your character could be pimped up with gear or soething that describes better your character.
>>4168922
>>4170321
These are really nice, like the values from all of you.

I'm working in this character concept art, what elements do you think I could add to give more life to this little guy?

The idea is a skillful hunter from a tribe when humanity was barely developing communication skills, he lives in the jungle with his tribe.

bullshit shitty study

some more shit

>>4171193
on Discord

>>4163877


>>4164212
Could you redline that Anon's work I'm too /beg/ to see what's wrong with it

>>4163862
This general is gonna be the reason I start coming here again. What a great idea

>>4171738
Link?

>>4170247
Lol no

>>4171628
>I think Intermediate are just pro's with no experience and with no idea if they're improving or not
I think it's a spectrum. Like some people literally just graduated from /beg/, but others are practically pros who need that last big push.

>>4172241
https://discord.gg/MsnQVs

getting back into painting

Am I for here? This is my last complete piece... drew it few months ago... gave up shortly after...ngmi

Am I for here? This is my last complete piece... drew it few months ago... gave up shortly after...
took a long break now can't start again..

Trying to get better at digital painting, but it doesn't feel right. I've read that you should turn off opacity on pen pressure to make it closer to real painting, is that true? Also should I be blending on the canvas and color picking from there, or should be using the sliders/wheel/palette to pick each color?
Using photoshop atm, but have tried other programs and the way colors/edges work just doesn't feel intuitive.

any thoughts on this one /ic/?

>>4173849
opacity jitter is key, get used to it
as for colorpicking, mix on canvas, don't colorpick heavily from ref or it'll stunt your growth in learning color. can be used as a tool down the line for supplementing or blocking in your first tones, but getting a good eye for doing it manually will net you massive gains.
(p.s.: newer PS might have a mixing window like CSP, that would work too, i'm on an older version and it doesnt so i just mix in canvas)

Boys
I did vilppu, Hampton, Huston, bridgeman, skipped out of Robertson cause it felt too much like "perspective made easy" and im now on blair. im feeling a little burnt out. my anatomy is decent (im happy), but I feel like im spinning my tires. what do I do next? how do I get to the "next level"? thanks bros

>>4170328
Don't be a faggot anon.

>>4170321
he cute

>>4171628
cool character, I like him a lot. my suggestion would be give him a better silhouette, maybe make his mask bigger? or pop his feathers off more directional? neat though

>>4174024
Can't tell you anything concrete unless you post a sample of your work.

>>4174094
thanks man, but im not looking for validation, I just was asking for what you guys dig into next. do you just hone in on what you suck at? do you ape artists you like? I guess i'm kinda bored...

>>4170321

This is really beautifully done and the shape design is amazing. Good job!

>>4170943

Super flat. The amount of detail is the same over the whole piece and things aren't in perspective. I still like the composition end the edgy in-your-face- feel of the whole thing...

>>4171599

I love the composition but that's all. No focal point and everything is drawn badly.<

>>4171628

Torso should be slightly taller and arms should be slightly longer.

>>4173394

That's just a horrible pose... I don't know what he's even doing! Is he shy or angry or? I dunno. Figure it out! I think it'd be better if he had the arm to our right behind his body since he's not doing anything with it or you have to pose that arm but what ever...

>>4173944

The angles of her face are all wrong and her nose is flat and anatomically unaesthetic. You did a semi decent job on the eyes (even though they're looking in separate directions and I think it works for you piece) but the nose is all fucked and the mask is pointing forwards(?). It's just all fucked. The nose anatomy is all fucked too. If you want me to show how it's fucked you can ask me but I need to go to sleep. I really like the energy on the hands and the way you lay in your strokes. Foreshortening doesn't seem to work on this thing either...

You have some good ideas but do something simpler before you get into this the next time.

Does this look like a rock?

Any tips for softening edges between areas in shadow and in light? I have no issues blending colors either in shadow or in light, but when I need to smooth out those edges between the two my colors get muddy and I lose values. This is specifically in digital art/photoshop.

>>4173944
>>4174324
hey thanks for the advice, yeah i screw up the nose so often, its flat and pointed in the wrong direction. i basically have problem with keeping everything facing the same direction. will work on that

thoughts on this drapery? kinda easy pose but have been studying clothes and stuff and wanted to try a sweatshirt and slacks without reference

thoughts on this drapery? kinda easy pose but have been studying clothes and stuff and wanted to try a sweatshirt and slacks without reference

>>4174324
Catank guy here! Thanks for the criticism, I’ll go so 3D in my next piece it will pop out of the screen

>>4174570
pay more attention to where stretch and compression is happening, specifically on the right arm and both legs.. The left (his) arm looks like you gave up.

On an unrelated note his forearms look like they're proportioned without elbows.

>>4174406
probably would in the context of stuff around it, it's a little too pointed at the top, Almost looks like fabric

dayjob fucking up my studying sigh

>>4175706
your studies humble me anon
i must do this aswell

>>4175685
Yeah you're right. Been studying Dore and trying to imitate his work. Thank's for the feedback anon.

>>4175706
Do you post your studies anywhere? For some reason they helped me see the 3d form a lot easier than most things did.

>>4175706
make a tumblr acc and post ur studies there they seem very useful

>>4175734
>>4175737
https://minimumwagesketchbook.com/

>>4175721
who?

crawling to the weekend.

still having lots of trouble with hair.

still having a lot of trouble with hair

Roast me bros. I will take any criticism

>>4176333
U need to lern more about the basic. Shadow is too dark and dont have any lighting make your work look flat and dirty

>>4176347
Also u missing the medium value between light and dark that why its look like shit

>>4176343
Seem fine except the space between the eyebrows
Also a bit more detail in the neck
Otherwise, looking good bro

>>4176485
Thanks bro, seem like i need to fix the value and add more details

>>4176552
did you map before you shaded?

Yall gonna destroy me eh?

Currently working my way through The Art & Science of Figure Drawing. Got torso/pelvis/legs/feet done so I've been practicing those a bit.

How am I doing?

>>4176687
Yes i did

how does it look bros?

>>4177470
Look fine, try to draw something big like an illustration

>>4177562
Fuck i forgot to re-paint the lips

>>4163862
Been away from here for a few years, good to be back

>>4163873
You need to establish your basic forms better before you start drawing details, you shouldn’t be able to see this much of the brow from this angle that’s why it looks weird no matter what. Your skull proportions and perspective are off

>>4170321
Don’t like the ott use of colour dodge but the guy telling you to abandon colour dodge is wrong, it’s okay, but use it sparingly for moments of intense light otherwise it becomes overbearing and obvious,

>>4177562
looks good zoomed in but shit on the thumbnail. needs more values

>>4163862

Live class

Dunno bout this one, I am still working on the male character in the background, but I feel his scale ain't right, she's supposed to be Back to back with him, but it just ain't jiving with me. I might just remove him..or start again on a larger sheet of paper, if I can be bothered.

>>4177738
Never done a live class, but aren't you supposed to still use construction even if it's not from imagination

>>4177846
What do you mean?

>>4177607
Awesome silhouette, pretty amazing. The render lacks of solidity.

>>4177661 Nice color palette, that mask really pulls out from the other elements. Any social media?

I'm >>4171628 These are sketches that came from an artblock lmao

>>4178466

Critique?

>>4178516
head is rotated, but nose is straight on?

>>4170321
I'm jelly of the brushwork.

>>4178466
Thanks! I use artstation, mostly post studies and 3d work there.

https://www.artstation.com/heretic-artwork

bros, how do i add colors to a grayscale painting?.

>>4177607
great silhouette and i really like your brushwork. saved to my inspo folder. any social media acc?

>>4178685
1/2

>>4178685
2/2

>>4178746
>>4178745
thanks, anon

>>4178746
All this work to cope with the fear of painting straight in color without relying on fancy digital layer modes and adjustments.

>>4178753
np hope it helps, i rly like your drawing, have you considered just adding some delicate flushes of colors to the grayscale version instead of going full color? check out this ruan jia's "grayscale" study, it does have some color if you look at it closely https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0015/62/1381297712510.jpg just his work in general is a good representation of what i have in mind here

>>4178761
i also think doing art in grayscale first is a very complicated way to achieve something that could be otherwise done with some studying plus some trial and error, but then i've seen some really amazing art created that way and everyone has their own way of understanding things so as long as the final effect looks good, i'd say it's all cool. i *am* convinced that g->c will always look inferior to color but i also think there are way worse techniques out there.

>>4178772
Yes these tutorials u posted are very helpful, thank you kind anon.

>>4178761
Idk about the others but for me its very helpful. I can avoid thinking alot about colors as a beg i think i should stays this way

>>4178739
Thanks man, I'm same guy here https://www.artstation.com/heretic-artwork posted my artstation before. Also have a insta for art @heretic_artwork

walter study

I'm a complete retard and forgot to resize

any thoughts on this one /ic/?

>>4179649
Go post on /draw/, your work isn't intermediate.
Seriously, this is soul as fuck

One was done in Photoshop, and the other in Clip Studio. Feel like I'm getting better, but the struggle is real.

Lil illustration. Thoughts? Hate?

how do i learn light and colors? can you recommend any books (or other resources)?

i'm kinda scared to color my drawings 2bh, pic related is a gimmick i keep doing, it probably doesn't make sense

>>4179974
your soul is very strong

>>4179866
thank you anon, i think i have a lot of work to do anatomy and construction wise but its rly nice to hear theres some soul in my work

>>4179974
i like it a LOT but i feel like your lineart takes everything away from this piece. it looks vector like but your work channels a more traditional vibe. even changing the color of the lineart to less harsh and leaving it out in the background already made it better imo. check out choodraws maybe it will inspire you anon.

>>4180142
obvious answer is Color & light by james gurney but the book cen be pretty hard to understand/implement even when you're int level.

they key to light and colors is studying these principles:

1. value - tons of resources out there; reflected/bounce light and core shadow are the most important. your art needs to work both in greyscale and color.

2. how light affects color - check out this weird video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3JhHSkvAI its really strange but has a lot of important knowledge

3. color harmony - watch marco bucci's videos on color theory. his digital work isnt very good but he does have a good understanding of color which shows in his traditional art. i think these videos are really solid

>>4180191
thank you anon, i really appreciate it

going through it right now

>>4179958
where are your core shadows anon. you need them like yesterday. also area of direct light needs to be visibly lighter than area of reflected light. plus his skin and beard dont absorb the candlelight fully, they will catch most of it but you still need some of them local colors.

otherwise good job.

>>4171628
Blog?

>>4176333

increase your value range. right now most of it are in the mid range. study photos that have obvious lighting.

>>4180484
You need to work on your proportions, shading and tone should come second.

>>4176754
your lineweight and linework in general are all over the place, try to improve that.

>>4177562
lower that chin :^|, or just plain fix her jawline.
>>4177607
Good shit my guy
>>4177661
love the way you paint, and the colors you choose, keep it up;
>>4177738
try practicing form more, it looks really awkward.
>>4177746
it has a really old anime feel keep it up.
>>4178516
try to choose less colors near black it looks kinda muddy, fix the nose, and the mouth. try to add more detail to hair because it's kinda lackluster.
>>4179649
her right arm looks kinda wonky.
and in the stomach area it's hard to tell where the shirt ends and the skin starts.

>>4180484
Looks good! You could however, still make some of the outer edges harder.

>>4180541
thanks for the critique, yeah, now i see the tshirt is fucked up. i think i meant for it to reveal more of her stomach and then forgot it. will fix it.

new doodle, any advice/thoughts /ic/?

>>4180619
fixed the colors but im not sure

>>4180201
Yup, I see that now. Thanks. Mine looks like orange color is laying on top for no reason.

How do I go about cleaning my artwork? It's really messy and muddy, especially around the edges. Should I blend it and go over the edges with an eraser after I'm done or do I have to change my mindset and how I operate when I draw?

>>4181082
Gotta learn about edge control my dude.

>>4181087
Got any resources for that, my friend?

>>4180619
i almost like the darker colours more because it adds more contrast, I really like the vibe you went for, i would practice rendering leather and fabrics.

Can I be INT yet? most of the things in here seem terrifyingly good to me...

>>4181111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3zVGXSw_d8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEjKKiNjvBM

>>4181109
very cool. i dig the cast shadow on the car, i dont dig the lines on that bench - the horizontal ones are ok but the diagonal ones seem to break the perspective a bit

>>4181821
/beg/ is full of weirdos that cannot get past the chicken scratching phase and /draw/ is full of ints with bad estimation of their own skills. /int/ is the best place my dude. work on feet and calves more, look for videos here https://mega.nz/#F!rYhFlIQL!OX7slmxiS3Vn6JGsY9mUBw

Can somebody please point me in the right direction to learn more about picking colors for clothes? I don't mean painting colors. More like actual clothing colors. I just spent an unnecessarily long amount of time trying to figure out colors for this witch to wear without them clashing or being boring.

Is this a stupid question? I don't know. I'm not great at fashion and I feel like maybe learning more about real life clothing could make it easier next time.

Thanks bros.

inb4: I didn't draw the hands. I know. I didn't want to spend hours on this. Just wanted to get the idea out of me and this works.

>>4173394
I love the colours

>>4181975
Its not a stupid question at all. It's color theory even if you dont realize it yet anon, color harmony is a thing. For now i'd suggest going to colourlovers.com/palettes for inspirations. If you really want to get into color & outfit design for your characters though, you'll need the real deal, so following some tumblrs that post recent fashion shows & browsing online editorials. It's worth your time if you're really into that, fashion is full of amazing art inspo, the new wave of nip streetwear is literal eyecandy. If you prefer more regal stuff then start digging through old D&G, new valentino, elie saab and zuhair murad.

Sorry for my autistic rant. You need to work on your construction and drawing in general anon, no amount of thick lineart and abstract shapes will fix that. I'd tell you to go back to /beg/ but im not sure whether that place is helpful at all.

>>4181999
> You need to work on your construction and drawing in general anon
But it's muh style, anon.

Just kidding. Yeah for sure. Still learning. 8 months in or so. I just like to finish a thing in between the endless studies and practice.

Thank you for the tips though, them's some interesting sources and ideas.

>>4181949
>work on feet and calves more, look for videos here
Thanks for the feedback, I'll get to working on that.
Also that Video-library looks phenomenal, appreciate it.

Character design.
Hoping the colors are nice and that she at least looks interesting.
Both are wearing black flats.

>>4181975
short term goal: study colour theory, buy a book about colour theory (I like David Hornung's Color A Workshop for Artists and Designers) and watch videos and tutorials on youtube etc.

long term goal: build a visual library, one of the most underrated fundamental things for any artist is to develop a personal visual library, this just means observing, studying and painting things that interest you, and really imprinting them in your mind for future reference and inspiration. This should be as deep and broad as you can possibly manage and you shouldn't stop developing your visual library for as long as you live.

mid-term goal: gather some references of real world things that you like, and that you feel match the "tone" of your character, and apply the colours of that thing to your character clothes,skin, hair etc. it can literally be anything, you can apply the colours of landscapes, vehicles, weapons, seasons food ANYTHING to your character, and it will naturally lend a certain coherence and feeling to your character.

Good luck.

>>4181949
oh yeah get what u mean, the diagonal lines dont look as thought out

>>4192057
Thanks for the detailed reply my dude! Seriously!

>>4182146
>>4182057
I fucked the link, somehow.

>>4182211
i like it, i aspire to be able to sketch so loosely but accurately at the same time.

new piece, what does /ic/ think?
i've been drawing from imagination for a ~month now and i feel much better about my work (i was stuck in reference drawing for years), but i feel like my anatomy is all over the place. i need them studies.

>>4182244
Her headshape is off, and her right arm is really big. The size of her head kind of big.
Her hairline defining sides arent there.
Try redlining the shape of a head.

Overall I like it. You did pretty good.

>>4182278
thanks a lot for the crit, u right. i made a redline of her head and it looks like an alien egg. will fix it tomorrow before uploading to social. no idea where her hairline went. also i've just realized that her right arm has folds but the left does not at all. will add these as well. i have some kind of art alzheimer.

>>4182287
It’s okay we all do that every now and again. I tried redlining it. I’m no expert but hopefully this helps.

>>4182244
I would make the darks darker and more saturated blue, they look a bit washed out.
Other than that I love the pose and the expression!

>tfw struggling to into two characters interacting.

>>4182527
forgot pic..

Daily study, didn't have a lot of time today

>>4182656
bah, resized

study. white is without ref.

>>4182673
Are they all supposed to be the same guy?

>>4182681
Top white one was me trying to turn the referenced drawing. The bottom one was me just trying to draw an old guy.

>>4182656
nice coloring, however its hard to critique without seeing the ref. image you used.

>>4182211
Based
Top tier taste and soulful style

>>4182673
Oh the bottom right’s nose is pushed in a little too much. Or flat. It feels off.
Eyes are crooked on left one, but dude you did a really good job.grade A work.

finished this one up. Thoughts?

>>4182697
What are you going for?

>>4182697
The figure is too stiff. But the only way to fix that is to practice more. Gesture drawing particularly. Go for tilts, twists, and rhythms in your poses. Don’t draw everyhing straight up and facing the viewer directly

couple life drawings Ive done recently around 5- 10 minutes or so

an editorial illustration of Bob Dylan. Wanted to have a clean simple composition.

What the fuck is wrong with me, guys.

>>4182873
Maybe it’s me but she long. If I red lined this wrong forgive me. But you need to study anatomy.

>>4182908

you just posted cringe, brother

>>4182908
I need to work on my anatomy, shit. But she’s definitely too long.
Her thighs are long as fuck. They are almost as long as her arms.

>>4182873
Texture brush meme

>>4182873
Proportions are off.
Hands should be near knees.
It’s too long. Find a similar pose and work from there.

>>4182917
What's meme about texture brushes? Throw me a bone here.

>>4182919
Okay. Once I fix the proportions, then what? What's next? What can I do to make this an "excellent" painting from a technical and artistic standpoint?

I'm not asking you to spoonfeed me step-by-step instructions or anything. But some pointers on the direction I should be going would be nice.

I like games for to play yes much can be

>>4182924
You weren’t specific and I just told you the most blaring issue.
Your painting is muddy unless that’s the style you’re going for. What do YOU want your painting to resemble? Post an example. What are you going for? Crisp lines? Digital smoothness like Sakimichan? That way I’ll know where to direct you.
I think you have nice color choice, and your face looks nice. You just need to focus on the big issue first. Otherwise it’s just polishing a turd.

>>4182934
I realize I wasn't specific. But I just mean, fixing proportions until they're accurate isn't going to make the painting good or interesting.

Sakimichan's style is probably my least favorite in the digital scene.

I'm really inspired by Ruan Jia, Anders Zorn, Abbott Thayer, Sargent, Nicolai Fechin, Ilya Repin, Mian Situ, Wu Zhaoming.

I'm just trying to be "me". But with technical skills and a traditional approach. I'm not necessarily trying to "mimic" traditional, but I'd like to steer clear of the typical digital look.

>>4182953
not the anon replying, but you would have to be stupid to think that proper proportions and good technical skill in that area won't make a good painting, its the base requirement for good work, is an understanding and application of fundamentals such as that.

>>4182958
No, I think it's lacking in values, edges, color and brushwork.

Fixing the proportions is nice and all, and it's a step in the right direction. But it's not going to fix all those other fundamental issues.

But it's cool. I'll just fix the proportions for now.

>>4182970
your values and brushwork won't fix bad construction or the things underneath the actual painting. unfortunately they build on each other, so if you can't draw, your painting will suck too.

>>4182958
This.
I don’t know where to direct you because I don’t know what look you’re aiming for. Post an example. What theme/athetic are you aiming for? Saying me doesn’t help because I’m not you therefore I cannot guess what you want it to resemble. Traditional in what way there are hundreds of styles for traditional. You’re too vague and I don’t know what your goalpost looks like.
Example.
I want to draw in a way that has this aesthetic. I want to focus on the realistic female form while making a surreal image. I want to have a similar coloring style to this. I want to draw traditionally with pen and pencil.”
I would suggest studying the aspects you like. Study color theory, draw models. Find references. Alternate between drawing from life to drawing from imagination. Look at it see what you did wrong then correct it. Repeat until you die.
>>4182971
This.
You’ll end up polishing a turd. Fixing proportions is the first step. If the base is weak then everything else won’t really matter.
Values are effected by proportions.

>>4182984
Don't know why people still don't realize things are built from the ground up. beginners need to realize that if you can't draw a box in perspective you can't draw a body in perspective, no painting without understanding of form and proportion for ints, etc. skills build upwards, and more advanced techniques don't just come from nowhere.

>>4182986
It’s a lesson we all had to learn. Just gun-ho artists trying to get to the fun part because proportions are a chore. Studying is a chore but you have to do it.
New artist will always pop up and you’ll have to repeat this.

>>4182990
what would you recommend as far as an /int learning plan to solidify accuracy and perspective in students? actually going through loomis has been the ticket so far to show them, but any studies you think are overlooked when setting people on a daily study plan?

and yea, its always the same thing. shame its hard for them to see where they are going wrong.

Any help with this would be appreciated, wanna get into pet portrait commissions. Like how do I make the fur look good? Okay so for some reason the app crashes everytime I try post it, i even compressed it and posting other images works fine

Critique my doodles I guess.

thanks for all the advice guys, i fixed it a bit, do you think its any better now?

>>4182984
>>4182986
>>4182990
I'm not neglecting drawing. I do draw a lot, I just paint a lot too.

In the painting I posted above, I did do a preliminary sketch to work out the pose and gesture, and I thought it looked fine. But I guess I lost track of it after I started painting over it.

Anyways, you guys have made it clear that I should grind anatomy for a while before I paint anymore.

Trying some strong perspective. Feel like it's not reading well but eh.

>>4183377
No. You should paint. But you should also focus on anatomy. You can do both. Start with a reference. Draw it, then paint it. You’ll have a image to reference and learn about values and colors. You’ll hit three of your goals at once.

Just do an exercise then draw something you like and see what you learned. It’s like studying a paper then taking a practice test.

Hope this helps.

>>4183061
Your expressions are fun, and it looks good. Hopefully your line work matches this.

>>4183145
I think it looks nice. You took out some of the darkness of the lines near her left arm that showed distinction from her chest and arm.
But I dunno if it’s me but her face feels... I dunno long? I’d say it’s a stylistic choice. But just in case if you were going for less stylized realism. Her hair feels. Like a wig to me.

I say you can post it as is though.

aight i be paintin whatcha been thinking bout this one?

whatcha think bout this one

>>4182687
Oh, I didn't use references, sorry, lately I've been calling everything I do that I don't consider took much time a study

>>4183659
that's a solid study

>>4183659
Sean Cheetham?

I like games for to play

>>4183659
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4QdEjIHT8i/

>>4183845
It's another episode of "anon posts work of a professional to see how many crabs he can lure out"

gaggle a gestures skatches I been doing b4

probably looks shit if i mirror it

>>4163877
i think this looks tight, left hand could be a bit more in frame, same for the left foot, but other than that i like it. Would love to see with color or something to bring out more character, unless this is supposed to be b/w

>>4177607
love the outfit the expression and the fuck gloves.

>>4183894
yes, align her eyes

Just some study

Thoughts?

>>4180541
>try practicing form more, it looks really awkward

really awkward how?

>>4184316
beg begone

>>4184316
this is kind of cool in a weird way if you actually managed to render it really well.

Am I gonna make it?

how do i make gif?

i need a layer get into another with the opacity, but i have no clue how to do it without making a video out of it

I'm fucking late

>>4185340
You mean like an animated fade-out to a different layer? If you just want it for a quickie and don't care for quality, you can screen record to a gif using ShareX.

How long until these threads get overrun with dunning kruger /beg/s?

>>4174406
No, looks like leopard skin

I had initially put this on /beg/. I’m pretty sure I know the answer, but just in case, back to /beg/?

>>4163862
Study from a film screenshot I took ages ago. Kind of fucked it up early on so spent a lot of time just polishing a turd but I think I at least captured the sense of his haggard skin texture and lighting

>>4185304
start thinking about the forms the shadows create - go for outline instead of random hatching/scribbling. picrel - a snippet from Huston's book. as you can see, the outline of the shadow come first, the "filling" isn't as important. this approach is very helpful and effective for learning.

>>4186123
not sure about the airbrush use in her hair. also the bright outline on her neck is a rather weird choice, im guessing you were going for a rim light ? it cannot be just a harsh line on the outline of your character, you need to make an illusion of the light "bleeding" into your forms. also think about her collarbones, how would they attach to her shoulders here? on the plus side, your shadows are nice and clean and i like the edge control around her eyes and in the cupid bow area.

>>4186127
first of all: get yourself a scanner or at least take pictures in proper lighting and correct the contrast before you upload anything. you cuold be next da vinci for all we know but nobodys gonna look objectively at a picture of such poor quality. i can barely see the lines and the lamp highlighted some bumps in the colored area on the bottom. also, if this isn't ink - i suggest you start working in ink if this aesthetic is your game.

>>4186134
i feel like these random scribbles take away from your brushwork which is actually really nice on its own. you know what im talking about, these wobbly lines on his nose, above his eyebrow and in his cheekbone area. they dont look like dne on purpose, they look random. otherwise i like the colors and edge control.

>>4186127
I don't get what are you trying to draw, but yes. Definitely beg, nothing wrong with it.

>>4185340
I do gif animations with GIMP. it's pretty simple.
Basically the gist is to name layers in [layername](Nms) format (like "mylayer1(250ms)", "mylayerX(1300ms)", etc.)if you want to specify how long a frame lasts,
otherwise just get a project with layers as frames in wanted order and export as gif and fill "save as animation" checkbox. fiddle with settings and you're done.

>>4180680
blog?

>>4186189
instagram.com/zuzannapx

not much there but ive been trying really hard to improve.

>>4186206
siemka co tam :)

>>4186150
Thanks for the feedback, I agree about the squiggly lines I guess, I got a little impatient with this one, though it was fun to try.

Your studies look great

>>4186209
w porządalku

>>4186217
theyre not mine my dude, they're from steve huston's book.

i do recommend it to anyone who wants a quick way to improve their shading.

>>4186226
Yeah I noticed that after I read your other replies haha

>>4177562
wanna know how I can tell you aren't used to drawing females?
looks like a trap/femboy
also, jaws dont do that, the dip thing, that angle you have between the ear and the rest of the jaw, isnt that far out on the face

>>4186180
I ended up trying to do something that looked like a woman. Thank you.

>>4186150
Thank you too. I think it’s too big for a scanner though.

>>4186123
I really like this

posted it before but who cares

>>4186397
for christs sake anon, have some respect for your audience and showcase your artwork accordingly. this took me 3 minutes. and dont give any excuses like "this is just a sketch i wanted to show im on phone blah blah". you either commit to this 100% or gtfo.

otherwise nice work, i like it. the thick outline on the top of his head is kinda out of place. but hatching on his forehead is really tasty.

>>4186409
Thanks man! You're right!

How did you do that though? I've been a real technophobe for the last years, would love a walkthrough

>>4186429
np anon, what software are you using? i used photoshop but the stuff i mention here is available in most raster editing programs.

Before anything, always take as good picture as you can. Daylight is the best, keep your phone parallel to your paper. Watch out for areas where light shines on your pencil drawing as it can create ugly reflections.

1. change the color mode to grayscale. this is important. leaving pencil or ink b&w sketches in color will make it 100x harder to edit and you dont need these colors anyway.

2. use Levels to increase the brightness of white and darkness of black as much as possible without using detail. Any similar option (brigthness/contrast for example) is okay, i just like using Levels because its the most precise and flexible.

3. Use dodge tool with bigh soft airbrush to remove paper folds and shadows. If a part of the drawing becomes too bright in the process, correct it with burn tool (also set on a soft airbrush).

4. flatten the image (layers -> flatten or layers->merge visible).

5. if you're using photoshop, you can try this: Select->Color selection, click the color of your paper, work with the slider a bit, click OK, hit V and hit delete. it should delete the remaining bits of the paper, thus leaving only your pencil drawing.

this is of course not the only right way to do it, and not the best one by any means, its just how i do it. there are many tutorials on sketch clean up online https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwRc9-f_zN4 (sinix sucks in general but this one is alright its just some technical photoshop stuff). if you feel like your artwork looks too "sharp" after resizing, use Blur (but use it very lightly). similarly, if it looks to blurry, use sharpen (again, lightly). also never upload unedited photos of pencil or ink drawings to social media, people really dont like it and wont engage with your art.

fellas?

>>4186447
You're a saviour man!

I've just been uploading basically unedited shit

Never again

You got an insta?

>>4186462
instagram.com/zuzannapx im not a pro by -any- means but im glad i could help. im simply speaking from experience because i also used to upload bad quality photos of sketches and looking back it was really bad. your nice linework deserves a good presentation. if all of the technical stuff is too much for you i recommend getting a cheap canon scanner, will save you a lot of time (the software has built in presets for drawings) and you can scan your art in high resolutions so that you can print in on bigger formats later - an A4 drawing scanned in 1200 dpi can be printed on 100x70 cm format.

>>4186457
>>>/beg/

>>4186469
Followed! I have a scanner, but I've probaly just gotten lazy haha

>>4186457
1. why are you using black? black means the surface absorbed the light 100%. outer space is black. dont use black. same for white in highlights - is his skin 100% reflective? set your background to something different than white, it helps you look at color relationships better and will be easier on your eyes.

2. You need more soft edges. Use them along with hard edges to create a contrast.

3. Weird colors. Did you sample them from a photo? "Enhancing" the real colors a bit helps understand color theory better - oppose your warm light source with cool shadows.

4. There's no form in his left side of his face. Just a big flat shape of bright skin.

You need to create some variety in your brushstrokes. Dont render skin the same way you render hair.

>>4185288
These really should be in /beg/ honestly, There are a multitude of errors on a fundamental level.

>>4186507
I really appreciate it, anon.

Going over Vilppu lectures about the leg, that anon was kind enought to supply me with.

>>4186580
you can share that lecture?

>>4186844
its in the thread, literally use your fucking eyes and scroll bar

>>4183390
I wanted to add critique but I’m not the best in perspective. I think your right hand is too small even for the perspective.
If you make solid line work of this could you post it.

>>4186893
sorry, i just scrolled until the newest post

>>4186910
well now theres 4 useless posts that add nothing and I'm too /beg/ to add anything, but I dont want to continue shitting up the thread so I'll post a nice reference I found for fabric even though nobody asked, because fabric is hard to draw for some people

>>4186150
>Huston's book
ill check it out ty <3

Is this any better? I just restarted from scratch.

A year later, I didn't quite make it to where I wanted to. But oh well. Here's a wip.

>>4186519
too bad you couldn't point them out

My main problem with this piece was balanced lighting and SSS, what else can I do to improve it?

>>4187277
Everyone overestimates how much they can achieve in a year, but underestimates what they can achieve in 10 years.

>>4187284
Well, gesture structure proportions perspective. kinda the whole spiel. I feel like they need to take a lot of steps back there and start from the top.

>>4163862
Do I belong here?

new sketch, any advice /ic/ ?

>>4187613
you didnt apply any color theory to your work, the hues are all over the place. i also suggest dropping the airbrush.

>>4187995
Coil

>>4187277
Flicking nice anon.post it when done.

I did a poor job at fur texture and enviroment details, any advice how to do it better?

you know how you did a detailed(ish) pencil sketch of the bear? you should be doing that for the background too

>>4187613
No fuck off

>>4187613
This is probably closer to high /beg/

>>4187613
High beg as other poster said. It IS way too complex for most people here to draw BUT in my opinion it feels kind of stiff and uninteresting maybe because of the bold basic colors.
Still, you have most fundies well practiced if you're only lacking 1 or 2 areas, if this had better colors I'd say it wouldn't belong here.

Live model. Bunch of sweet, shy old people drawing. They were really fascinated with the ipad I was drawing with. (Yeah, douche alert haha)

>>4174570
i love you bro
>>4177738
beg
>>4186960
i love you bro but put a cross on your face i cant believe youve misaligned it so much aki

>>4187277
Very charming, do you have somewhere you post your art?

>>4188492
Not really. Your best bet would be to Google "akirel 4chan", or just "akirel art".

I will NOT go to /beg/

>>4188436
>>4188439
Same model. I stopped rendering anything and reduced the brush tool to a uniform line. With this ugly and boring tool, I isolated my weak spots. Lots more struggle this time around. It's clear I need to work on my gesture, construction, and line confidence

This was fucking frustrating.

Sorry for shit image quality, I don't have a scanner

>>4188439
>>4188436
very nice

>>4163877
Alright, I’m fucking back! Here’s an update

>>4188635
Is this a reply to somebody or some kind of GMI mantra to motivate yourself?

I'm gonna do it bros, I'm gonna go to /beg/

>>4188874
Very nice

>>4170328
T.redditor who can’t make clever racist jokes so he just says “nigger” and thinks he’s cool because he did le edgy joke on le edgy sight so now he gets (you)s and upvotes because of how funny he is with his low tier bait

>>4174710
Blog

>>4186123
i really love it, what kind of brush and software do you use?

>>4189195
Overall sketch i did in csp, cause i like how sketching and linework works in it. Also i used airbrush in csp. Later for textures i used KNKL chalk brushes in photoshop and did some airbursh

Hand studies

>>4189204
do you have a cool crack link for clip studio paint ? or did you pay it? t's just really tiring to try to find one

>>4189361
cgpeers

>>4189361
I did buy it on sale, but as >>4189363 said

>>4182673
middle is good, right is not good.

>>4176754
Those flowers in the background are from Clip Paint!

Anyway, as the other anon said, your line work is really patchy. I get what you're trying to do making the majority of the outlines thick but the lines inside the face thinner, but because of the overall messiness it doesn't really work.

I think the eyebrow to the hairline needs to have a bit more distance, it makes the forehead look tiny.

Overall good start but doesn't look refined enough to be anything more than a quickie.

Rusty as fuck for doing figures. Going to be studying Hampton and Vilppu for the next couple of day. Do some arm and torso studies as well.

Trying to apply things to drawing from ref without having grandpa vilppu holding my hand.
I have to say, watching him pull full fledged anatomical drawings out of thin air is impressive.

>>4191641
beeeyootiful hips

>>4192228
appreciate it fellow man of culture