/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

some hand studies from last night.

>>4130661
This is p much the draw thread tho. Only maybe two pros post regularly.

>>4130674
I thought the same but I wanted a thread more focused on improvement in hopes of going pro rather than a "here's what I'm working on" thread.

I might be wrong and this may be pointless tho lol

>>4130675
I see people in /beg/ who are better than me. This board doesn't make sense.

>>4130681
Intermediates post their work in /beg/ and beginners post in the regular draw threads all the time.

>>4130681
Lol you belong in /beg/ then

>>4130661
This is unironically a great general that should become a recurring thing. Too many people in /draw/ get upset by /beg/posters. And there are many people who don't feel /beg/ but know they dont belong in /draw/.

We should try not to be rude in this thread like what happens in /draw/ when 60% of (You)s are rage posts and people telling people to commit suicide or go to /beg/.

>>4130661
good job anon

>>4130661
just no
how am i supposed to know where to post?
even stylization, porn, and draw threads limits are confusing
why not making sketches, finished-pieces, human-figure, creatures, and everything-else threads? at least that would be clear

>>4130785
Supposedly we could direct each other to which threads to post in. If you post here are ppl tell you to go to beg, then go to beg. If you post in beg, and people are complimenting your work, and telling you to get out of beg, then come here.

>>4130749
>>4130763
thanks.

studied hands from hampton's book for an hour and half so far tonight. THe three hands filled in with white at the bottom right are from imagination. Still having trouble with construction and perspective, especially on the fingers. I'll study hands from photos for the next hour.

>>4130661
i feel like this is a dangerous idea because of the potential it has to cause arguments. there will be less critique and analyzation going on boardwide, and more people yelling at each other as to which thread they should be posting in.
you'll also have shitters posting in all three gens just to get more (You's).. /draw/ regulars posting in int. to avoid the rage/envy posts from beglets lurking there..

generals were a mistake

>>4130861
this is /ic. most threads turn to shit, hopefully this can gain some traction then branch off into a discord or something.

>>4130868
Its just the Art Kings discord from the sticky, which is filled with the same /ic/ fags

so what is this, purgatory? the /beg/ threads are hell, for sure.

>>4130875
here are my totally not /beg/ sketches

>>4130872
Art Kings is worse than /ic/ itself, in both community and skill

>>4130836
These are pretty good. Which book are you studying from?

>>4130923
Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing, Design and Invention.

>>4130661
There's a reason there's not a thread for intermediates and it's because you only need the same critiques as /beg/ as if you didn't make /beg/ mistakes, you would be in the draw thread.

>>4130661
>splitting the drawthread again
please don't do this

Good initiative, but hear me out:
What if instead it was called the Fundies General?

>>4130986
Isn’t that technically the beg thread or the sticky?

>>4131037
>sticky
Closed to feeback
>beg
Problem is only begs hang around, but even pros need to improve their fundies forever. And fundies encapsulate not only anatomy, but other aspects that begs generally don't even get the chance to exercise, like composition, color theory, rendering, etc.

But I just checked the non-beg general and it's very subpar, I remembered it differently. Guess there's no need for it then, my bad.

>>4130661
A thread for asking advice for what you need to improve on in general seems nice. I feel like I'm in need of some general guidance for what to focus on, but I don't really have any studies to show.

now we just need a general general where everyone can post anything, despite of skill and/or art style, and then the cycle will be completed

>>4130674
Agreed, as you ascend beyond beg you are punished and sent back from draw if you fuck up.

None of this purgatory shit as this anon points out >>4130875

Studies and fundies
>beg, alt (please kill asg), sketchbook

Actual work
>draw, porn

>>4130749
This general actually was a thing back in 2016 or so but it got abandoned for whatever reason.

more hands from last night

turns out this thread wasn't a great idea lol. I'll just use the draw thread going forward. Live and LEarn!

>>4130661
>>4130662
>>4130836
>>4131731
When are you going to post more finished stuff and imagination work instead of studies
I like your work nigga don't just post studies all day, put that shit to use, you're more than capable of it

>>4132230
I'd post in it but I'm grinding fundies and tbqh I'm ashamed of my shitty art

Oil on canvas. Any feedback would be appreciated!

>>4133913
yeah, ill post more finished stuff in 2020 i swear

>>4131333
what will be the name?

>>4130661
Fuck. Is there a thread for those in-between beg and int?

>>4134573
pyw general

>>4131333
There's an entire board for that

I forced myself to finish this after scrapping everything I drew/ painted for a week. I know he's not great, but I also knew that if I didn't force myself to finish it that I would continue going on sketching/painting without really making anything and wasting my time and ruining my own life

any feedback and c&c appreciated. I've been in a pit the last while and I need to find out what to do to pull me out

>>4135199
You fucked up the caustics on the water big time. There's no sense of scale for its size, the fish around it aren't defined well enough, so maybe it's shark sized? Maybe whale sized? Who the fuck knows.

You decided to only do scales for the head and upper body, making the rest of the tail nothing more that a waste of space. On the tail, it gets really, really lazy near the end. Honestly you should have just cut it off or changed it, but then you would be fucked since there's nothing more boring than a figure of something in profile. It's the only thing stopping the image from being completely flat. It's still flat as all hell, though

And then you bury the whole thing under a bunch of layers trying to hide the shitty colors and lack of definition in this piece. It's shocking how lazy this is, while still trying to come off as complete.

Cut the sympathy bullshit too. Boo hoo, you can't paint. Well creating this abortion isn't any better than just drawing and scrapping another dozen failures

Go back to /beg/. You're not quite here yet

>>4135206
Congratulations. You have made the most ignorant post I have ever read on /ic/. I hope to god you are just crabbing.

>>4135199
I don't know what the fuck the other anon is on about, probably a crab. This is awesome dude. Got a blog?
The only thing I would add personally is a bit more small fish that are based on irl species, to give a sense of scale, for example adding a shark near the surface of the water. This way it's easy to tell it's giant, right now the small fish could be different sizes for all I know, for example those fish under his body remind me of cleaner fish that hang out on bigger fish's bodies, so i'm basing my sense of scale off those, but I can't be sure if that's what you intended.

>>4135206
Unironically post your work

>>4135206
Good bait, mate.

>>4135206
Lol. I love people trying to act like they actually know how to critique.

>>4135199
this is really good man. The only thing I'd critique is the the rest of his body doesn't look like it got the same attention as the head and that results in the length of the creature not being so apparent.

otherwise this is great, got a blog?

>>4135199
is this really /int/? If it is it's high-tier /int/ wtf

>>4135295
>>4135611

Thanks anons. Yea, my goal was to has the remora as a tool to measure size, but even after I included them, it still felt too empty and dead, so I added some pilot fish too. I wanted it to be big, but not too big. But, looking back on it, it looks massive since I added to much atmosphere between it and the tail (since I was rushing and the tail was massively underdeveloped) this, conflicting with the water caustics, conflicting with the fish size, really fuck with the scale of the image hard. It's difficult to tell how close to the surface it is, how big it is.

And, taking a look at it from an zoological standpoint, it all crumbles. the tail is too long and gets to thin to support its caudal fin. The fins are reminiscent of a flying fish but that conflicts with the eel like body, it would never be able to make it out of the water

If I wasn't so dead-set on pumping it out in one sitting, then he probably would have turned out better, but as is, he's kinda half baked. thank you for your input

>>4135206
ahem, post your work or no balls.

can someone that knows how to draw figures do a quick sketch of this? Construction, how you put the body together
would really appreciate it

>>4135769
Trace your construction over the image and someone might help you.

something recent

>>4135769
>Practice huh? Sounds like a lot of work... You think someone could practice for me?
No

>>4135769
im not sure if its accurate but hey

>>4135769
Well it's a nice ref and i needed to practice anatomy today anyways, so here, this is what I would do.

>>4135199
lmao this is so /beg/ my wife's boyfriends son who is an autistic quadrapalegic 13 year old that's still in kindergarten can do better than this

>>4135206
As much of an asshole you sound, I agree with all your points except the fact that he's /beg/ tier. I don't think the piece is quite finished as the OP said.

i didnt see this thread before so given the level of my work i should probably post here and not in /draw/

any thoughts on this one guys? i'd really appreciate any advice on rendering, values etc.

>>4137378
as far as rendering goes, you've identified the planes of the faces and everything looks consistent.

The real problem is that the underlying drying isn't complete or very good so it's kind of hard to judge.

study from a couple days ago. The one in white is from imagination.

anybody got any good reference on how the should blade moves?

>>4137775
thanks for reply. i understand you meant drawing. do you mean that proportions/construction/appeal are bad? or the quality of line itself? or both?

>>4137846
just how well the features(ear, nose,hair) etc are defined.

I can't draw much better than you but i think having a tighter drawing before rendering could help.

>>4130661
test

>>4137893
oh alright, you re right. i often think to myself i leave my drawings way too rough. i will work on that, thanks!

>>4137782
not exactly what u asked for, but maybe it could help

personally I like the attitude of >>4137378 over >>4137893
>>4137893 looks boring and dull.

>>4138035
I agree. I only did the drawing to explain what I meant by my critique.

35m warmup figure from imagination. I think I made some progress studying hampton last night. really trying to nail figure construction.

I swear the torso,trapezius/shoulder/pelvis are fucking hell to figure out.

this is everything i got /ic/ ( :0)!!!

(im still /beg/ probably)

>>4138975
!! o:
woooooooooooooooooooow . .. (*o*) <3 !!!

>>4138975
Cute but also very gay.

>>4138973
True, they don't have much of a defining shape unless you're drawing from the front or back.

>>4138035
yeah we just have different styles, their advice helped me. i tried to go back to the drawing to make it a little more defined and then continued rendering. this is where i'm at right now. i think i need to go back to values, they seem chaotic to me rn

>>4138975
yeah you are

Is this beggish?

>>4139776
ffs

got in a solid 5 hours of studying today. Feels good man.

>>4140041
proud of u anon

I dont know what I'm doing with my life
Just finished this and I don't know what I want to do next

>>4140623
Stop drawing acid attack victims and start drawing some 2d boobies

studies from last night.

>>4140984
the white filled ones are from imagination after studying a pose.

>>4140984
based and jamespilled

>>4140989
Actually, Michael hampton-pilled

short on time and didnt want to break my dad streak so i filled my canvas with random strokes until i found something

>>4140989
can you tell me what james you mean? i do know and study hampton but dont know who that one might be

>>4141463
i think he's talking about moderndayjames

>>4140625
Yes I wish
This is my first and probably last acid attack victim project
Gotta get on that bigtiddygothgf3.14waifu train

Does your family approve you doing art? I still have to make money with art and parents are constantly nagging me about getting a job. I dont want to give up as I see no other reason to live, but I hate feeling of being so dependent on parents at my age

>>4130661
I CAN'T FUCKING MANAGE MY VALUES AND ALWAYS SET MYSELF UP FOR FAILURE BY ATTEMPTING THINGS WAY BEYOND MY SKILL LEVEL

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4141634
I work a 40 hour day job and study art when I get off work. You just gotta deal with it.

>>4141634
Im going to uni to try for med school. I try to finish everything so in the morning/when I come home I can do a couple of studies/drawings. It sucks being limited on time, but you just gotta power through.

1st study of the night.

>>4130866
thank you

>>4141653
go back to beg, you can barely draw

gotta stop avoiding feet.

>>4141952
That's not beg, theres a reason /INT/ was created

>>4142355
Yeah its for people who actually decent at drawing. Sorry man you're a beg if your heads look like they were drawn and painted by a beg

>>4142380
not my work, but personally if I knew my values were garbage (which they undeniably are in that painting) why the fuck would I waste time trying to refine shapes? I'd drop it and move onto a new painting

also pyw

>>4142391
only a beglet would defend a beglet

go back to beg retard

>>4142380
>>4141952
I always make a rough underdrawing first and then add values, >>4142391 is right - i don't see any point in continuing if it looks like garbage.

I was just hoping somebody would give me ***actual fucking feedback*** instead of saying gO tO bEg YoU ReTaRd

>>4142062
I like what you're doing, it looks good. But instead of trying to draw the pose again from memory have you tried the challenge of drawing it from another angle, since you know the body well already.

>>4142429
Your drawing is good, I like the lines. I tried making the painting more readable with a shitty paintover by grouping the values more in the foreground, background ect. the metal should reflect more of the dark room unless it is glowing, I can't paint different materials yet so I didn't attempt it. gj

>>4142429
try not to use more than 3 values if you're having a hard time managing.

remember to separate your lights and darks.

work on your hands because the thumb and pink of the main hand is broken.

>>4142495
>>4142469
is this any better? or should i make the hand darker to contrast with the values of the observers?

>>4142495
>>4142469
is this any better? or should i make the foreground hand darker or brighter to contrast more with the middle values of the observers?

>>4143137
he literally showed you what to do and you did the exact opposite

>>4143148
I cant keep denying the fact I have brain damage, this is a recurring problem of me doing the opposite of what people tell me

warmup to start the night.

>>4143259
beg

Ok can someone help me with values and where my fuck ups happen? I notice personally that I very often have issues with the background and can never get the values right. I want the backgrouds usuall to be low detail with low contrast so they wouldn't steal attention but they either become a blurry mess, too detailed and strong, or just too desaturated in a way that it doesn't even look like it belongs to the picture. I think this illustrates my frustration well (don't get caught up in the anatomy shitty perspective, I just made something to illustrate my point.)

What should I study to fix this? Any resources and advice is welcome ofc.

>>4143275
Not to sidestep your question but I think you should worry about being able to draw the background and the figure before starting to worry about the values.

I've found that being able to draw things more confidently has lead to me being able to control the values and intent in an image better.

>>4143280
Yea I'm currently practicing both. The reason I consider my values to be the biggest issue is that I get frustrated when I can't finish any of my works. I personally like to study one subject through out, so if I practice people, I don't want to just draw people, I want to learn to color them as well, to me they kinda go hand in hand.

>>4143137

>>4143361
you never fixed your values and did the opposite.

>>4143590
He has brain damage
>>4143246

>>4130661
>/int/
an other containment general, oh boy

doggy

Any tips on this piece i made?

>>4143361

>>4143259
I like the feeling of motion!

>>4143754
the anatomy doesn't really make sense in your image. I tried to redline it.

>>4143865
Thanks i appreciate it,he's supposed to be facing forward wearing a large shirt

>>4143879
not that guy but here's a quick anatomy fix and a different shot. i'm a little confused bout why the rings around the hand and waist give off light but the one around the head doesn't.

>>4143821
this really didn't accomplish anything

>>4143148
>he
nope! Also it was only an example of how they could make the story read better.

>>4143137
I like where you went with this, the image is much more appealing and the ring looks less out of place

>>4143361
If you wanted to make the colours a bit more realistic you could use some more colour theory. If you look at the cubes at the bottom of the image the two planes of the cubes with arrows pointed to them are the same tone because they are both the same value of pure grey. The tone appears blue or red depending on all the other tones of the image. where the tones are around the same hue, more desaturated tones or grey tones in the image should appear as the colour on the other side of the colour wheel (complimentary colours) e.g green vs red, and in yours blue vs orange.

>>4144497
please be my girlfriend

slight tangent, but does anyone here draw on a curved monitor? upgrading my PC soon and was wondering if curved makes it awkward to draw

>>4144497
>>4143361

All that was trying to explain how I think the characters in the background would look better with grey tones to show the light hitting them, (since the grey will look more orange of you use more blue) but now I have just made an ugly paintover. Keep it up, anon

>>4134566
go back to /beg/

>>4138975
still /beg/ but not bad.

i think ygmi

>>4144517
>>4144497
>>4143821
>>4142469
>>4142495
>praise, encouragement, support and feedback
>on MY /ic/

the world was destroyed and time got reset back to an alternative timeline

I invented math, I invented math, we're all just brains in jars, I invented math

Not really a study but a practice from imagination. Want some feedback on depicting mooscles.

>>4144809
sorry, kinda /beg/ - not even being a crab

you're symbol drawing and don't understand the structure or form of those muscles, and the pose is very stiff and forced

this is just a rough draft for values - how does it look?

How do you get better at dynamic posing? I feel like I'm /int/ at everything else but posing. I always find myself relying excessively on references to come up with anything interesting.

>>4144964
practice 100 figures of gesture a day, dont spend more than 60 seconds on each figure

then once you feel comfortable with gesture, apply what you know about anatomy

>>4144964
Rotate figures, draw a box around your figure and rotate it. You'll start filling up your visual library in no time

Since nobody gave me feedback on /BEG/, I thought of posting here since you guys are better and maybe could help me.

Doing "Perspective Made Easy"
Am I doing shadows right? The wall isn't supposed to have a shadow, it's just me seeing if I understand how the shadow would change when interacting with another object. I just need some help with this. I'll keep everything else in /BEG/. And yes, I'll eventually get a proper drawing notebook.
(1/3)

(2/3)

>>4144867
this is what i ended up doing

(3/3)

>>4145045
>>4145090
Thanks, I'll try it out.

i posted this in /i/ and wanted some feedback

warmup doodle from imagination to start the night. it was more than a face but i fukt up and erased everything but the face

>>4145229
qt, reminds me of prince Lorian

>>4145137
looks about right. looks like you understand the principle of it.

The idea of a general like this isn't bad but maybe it would be a better split for the board to ahev a "draw thread" for standalone pieces and a study general for all sorts of exercises and studies?

>>4145870
Yeah I've been thinking that a study general/daily studies might have been a better idea.

can anyone help me with value placement?

i need to stop setting the bar so high for myself with complicated bullshit

>>4146129
somebody pls respond

i don't wanna get chewed out in /draw/ and i won't ever get helpful feedback in /beg/

>>4146129
ok the readability isn't that bad but you should design the contrast in your image to help tell the story of your piece such as the relationships and actions of the characters. use contrast more sparingly and maybe the image would look better realised if you go over with a soft brush to smooth value transitions.
>>4144499
what is that? also subscribe to schoolism, trust me. get it on sale

>>4146129
Go back to the beginning, and actually study value. I can tell you didn't - you don't have a grasp of how to use value to create the illusion of depth, and volume. This piece is above your skill level - get over the embarrassment, go back, learn how to build and control value, starting with simple block shapes, and then how to build depth of field and volume with value and shading.
The best way to look at value is to convert color images to black and white, and look how the values work, especially when talking about depth of field. A common technique for artists pre-computer was to photocopy their art, to see the greyscale of their images, to see where their values are. Or, to paint samples of their colors and gradations, and photocopying them, to see what their actual value is, in greyscale.
Value is something you study, until it becomes instinctual to you. Anyone that's struggling with it, almost always skipped that in the beginning, thinking they already knew it, but don't understand that shading isn't all that there is to value.
You could try breaking this down and doing this as cylinders or boxes, with the same lighting, and try to figure out the values in the scene, but I think you need to go back further than that, you're lacking the real fundamentals of value, if you're struggling this hard in B&W.

>>4146478
thanks for the honesty and critical feedback without the use of insults. Youre the star jewel of /ic/.

/BEG/ fag here looking for some help when it comes to perspective
here is my conundrum
I want to draw a shape mid air with a wall behind it, so that the shadow of that object will be projected against said wall
kinda like pic related
here's my process

>https://imgur.com/a/E3DgyyH

i'm really confused, doesn't help that i'm dumb and I wish the book would give more instructions

more figure studying. white fill is from imagination.

>>4146796

>>4146797

4 hours of feet and a naruto doodle

Head practice

>>4147052
thes are nice man. Teeth are hard af to draw.

Painting practice

Biggest mistake was to ignore the fundamentals of painting but I should be on the right track now

>>4147099
Is that a house, car, or a holicopter? What is it? Is it sky above? Looks like a mess that even a 5 years old child could produce. You definitely should continue to study foundumentals

>>4147112
>Looks like a mess that even a 5 years old child could produce
lets see you produce something similar then, shouldnt take you long.

>>4147099
this has soul

thanks for making this thread, /beg/ is crowded AF and usually no one says anything about my works.
It's frustrating AF, at least tell me "it's shit" and I'm going to be happy because someone took the time to see and reply

>>4148125
also this

I know it's pixel art but those threads are kind of bad.

>>4148205
Blog?

I have little to no understanding of value and lighting, here's Arzach

>>4148297
Forgot to resize

>>4148297
>>4148299

Also a little robot for practice

>>4148300
Now forgot to resize this one, this is fucking embarrasing

>>4148299
>>4148303
looking good uwu

>>4145144
It's nice, but the face kind of ruins it. With this style, you can probably go with the face being in shade from the hat, but the circles for eyes are just weird

>>4148236
twitter is fumi2moe, thanks :^)

Fooled around with one of the figure drawings i did

>>4148714
i know you probably wanted to show the perspective, but isnt her head a bit too small? just a bit. apart from that i rly like it

picrel college crap im working on rn

>>4135199
Looks really nice man, keep going !

don't listen to
>>4136026
this guy obviously is a sad troll

Heres mine, any tips to improve the next piece? And hypothetically could this be sold?

seems like this will be a bunch of people calling each other beg

>>4135149
Definitely /int/

Think about it. If you go back to /beg/ you're just going to be getting the same insightful comments aimed toward a beginner over and over. "Yeah right on! Just keep up with those studies!" Or worse, completely ignored. Not saying that doesn't happen on /int/.

If you post work on /int/ you'll get a needed reality check about your skill level. And you will then know what you need to work on. If you don't understand what they said, then back to /beg/ with you.

Then there's that adage. "You are the company you keep." OR "You're The Average Of The Five People You Spend The Most Time With." Even if you aren't /int/ yet. You just keep posting and trying your best, around other /int/ and getting comments, and you'll truly reach /int/ in due time.

Your mileage may vary.

>>4148780
when i look at the top half im like "yeah nice colors and patterns, wonder whats below" but the bottom half takes all of that away because of poor typographic choices. you should read into basic typography and typesetting rules before you include any text in your artwork. kerning between H and u is too big, leading is too small, space around letters is also way too small (why is there like 1 mm between H and left side, but k is touching the margin?)

More studies

And more

And some figures from imagination

man i need to get back in the swing of things. thanks guys :)

starting a job in a week, completely unavoidable. but im going to have the stuff i need to get back to it. a car. some tools. a thinkpad. luckily i already have a tablet.

>>4143291
like what he was saying values don't matter at all if you can't get the structure right, and also the values will fall into place easier if you have a good drawing. It doesn't matter how you use values, the structure is bad and so the whole thing will be bad no matter what. Values & finishing are an issue because drawing is actually your biggest issue.

>>4148297
>>4148299
lol funny penis hat.
Lighter lights, darker darks, harder edges.

quickposes, 1hr

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4148125
>>4148127
study anatomy, gesture and figure drawing.

I suggest Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing, design and invention.

I need some guidance, I'm trying to paint for the first time, but I feel like i'm making the face a little bit too uncanny with my color choices.I'm far from done but I just feel like I can't look at the face too much or I end up hating everything about it. The face is supposed to be not in too much direct sunlight as the rest of her body. This is my first photo ref study I guess?

A clown named Husky

>>4149398
post the ref?

Seems like you went for detail too soon, but it's hard to point out specific issues without the ref.

>>4149481
I have to make the hands bigger, I know that at least. I just quickly went over that cause I was having trouble w. face. Could it be that the eyes are drawn in too sharply while the rest of the face is too smoothed out?

>>4149488
wow okay, I expected her to be asian from your painting.

> Could it be that the eyes are drawn in too sharply while the rest of the face is too smoothed out?

That's certainly part of it. The nose and mouth are also too small also. The back of the jaw is too high. You should try color-picking the highlights on her face. I think your choice of background color is probably influencing your perception of the colors on the figure too.

You'd probably get more out of trying to paint something other than a face to start with. Try painting the folds on her clothes or something

only did 2 hours of studying. bit lazy tonight, i do like the little face doodle I did in the corner tho

>>4149398
your issues are way more with drawing than with painting. focus on that

>>4149777
>only
>2 hours
i feel personally attacked

>>4149469
Good, but the brushwork is a mess.

>>4150694
Yeah, made two versions, a sharp version and a blended version, though both are really sketchy and messy in general

more studies and shit. white filled is from imagination

I can't seem to position the shoulder on the left properly

>>4149563
Thanks, you were right. I just needed to take a step back for the day, I was staring at it for too long. I am trying to not color pick because I want to understand color but I think I'm getting the hang of it.
>>4149939
You're right, I'm still noob at drawing, I just started this later summer desu, Let me know if you think this is better

>>4151735
>>4149939
>>4149563

I'm dumb, forgot to post pic

>>4151735
>>4149488
>>4149939
>>4149563

So many fuckups. Here it is.

>>4150147
don't draw the fingers like that, make them smoother on women

>>4147027
you're not intermediate lol, all your work is fucking great.

which is better? im partial to the reddish version

its p fun to draw people on the tokyofashion ig

>>4151760
thanks man. im so far away from where i want to be it's depressing. All im focused on is being able to draw the human body in dynamic poses, I haven't even scratched learning values and all the other fundies yet.

30m imagination warmup

Hi, heres a Sargent-Value-Study i did, i welcome critiques - thanks

>>4152410
prob not the crit ur looking for, but the right eye is quite a bit lower than the other one. may be a fault of exaggerating asymmetry in the ref. i really like this piece though, even if it's just a study

>>4148714
The wings are coming out of her butt. Seriously?

>>4152766
Thanks - the same thing told me a friend too ^^ - i didn't constructed the head on the "traditional" way - focused mainly on shapes and continued to paint the values right after that - and accuracy wasn't the goal either - btw. thanks bro :)

30 min

tonights studies, white filled = imagination/no ref

>>4152919
continued.

>>4148879

Your feet and hands here (and the feet in the last one) look too short and stubby. However, in your other studies where you do complete figures the feet and hands (mostly) look okay. I would be careful of working on parts like this in isolation as it's hard to gauge relative proportions. Look at photos of feet and calves or hands and forearms, get a feel for their relative measurements, and draw them together paying attention to those proportions. You don't want to spend hours drawing a bunch of stubby feet then put those stubby feet on a full figure and not realize the problems.
Unless stubby feet and hands is what you're going for, of course.

>>4143269
Nah you faggot, begs can barely draw basic shapes

>>4152061
I really like your style! I unfortunately don't have much constructive criticism to give you, unless that tweaking the luminosity and contrast so the colors pop out more and the paper appear white?

>>4152225
>it's depressing
Don't. You are probably like, 20.

>>4135995
looks good but where's anatomy, i see only the ribcage

>>4151735
When I said color picking, I didn't mean to actually paint with. Guess the color and then later *check* with the picker. If you are surprised by the result, you'll learn what you were doing wrong quicker.

Do this with your drawing too. Don't trace the picture, but do overlay it afterward to see what you messed up. Both of these are easy ways to get feedback when working digitally, without needing help from other people.

>>4153178
will do, thanks for the advice.

tonight's studies

>>4154594
continued, white fill = imagination/no ref

I spend a good part of the day watching timelapses of digital artists of various styles. Why does everyone plop down some big colors and then immediately switch to a tiny brush for 95% of the painting? Is this the digital workflow? I thought we were supposed to be using the biggest brushsize possible?

study - i hate myself

>>4154596
Man you're a fucking beast. I love your study ethic.

What are your goals?

Recieved some feedback in beg to work on my composition. Would love some shading/rendering feedback from you fine folks. Great thread so far.

>>4156750

be more bold and guided with your values, learn how simple forms interact with light, work on drawing skills above everything else

>>4156621
THanks for the compliment.

being able to draw a figure from head to toe, dynamically, in most perspectives from my head.

Still lifes

still lifes

>>4154602

from yesterday, tackling some anatomy that I never understood.

>>4157467
continued

>>4157468

tonight's warmup

>>4157528
Flat af

>>4157592
yep.

piss poor tonight. these deltoids got me fucked up. white fill = imagination/noref

>>4157631

sorry for shitty phone camera quality, trying to learn how to draw girls

I'm wondering what I should do to improve.

This took me about 45 mins to do. I'm not trying to get better at capturing and building up images from construction so I can do it without relying on reference.

I built the image up from basic shapes, trying to get the pose and proportions correct and lazily added in the features and some clothes at the end.

>>4157528
nice

>>4157714
this is fine as an exercise, but i suggest you do it with photos and real models instead of artwork, or at least do most of this kind of stuff with real people and then some artwork
you might want to check out croquiscafe, drawthis and sites like line of action or sketchdaily. just overall figure drawing resources.

skull drawings from plastic skull

>>4156924
i like your stuff but this is a really bad redline my man. should have just told the guy to go back to the beg thread

tonight's warmup

>>4135162
its generally looked down upon if you make your own thread for your drawings

how is this still life i did last week?

>>4159234
i dont know if i belong here. no ref on this one

>>4159238
oops forgot to post pic. this and the backpack are mine

>>4135199
the water doing so dark so abruptly sort of irks me but i really love this

>>4146758
good job anon

>>4148735
cool

probably not the right board, probably it's better for ASG but it's not lewd so whatever it's still practice

any critique appreciated, Im still not sure about this style, because I usually don't like it because it's too comfortable and feels like Im sinking into laziness

>>4157714
I can see a lot of symbol drawing. Try picturing every part of the body as an object in a 3D environment. I am very new to this concept, but I can see merit in it, it helps you understand what you are drawing

I am talking about the face particularly, the other stuff are okay Not enough anatomy is showing through the line curvatures. I hope I helped my dude/tte

>>4158954
Samurai Jack>?

>>4159890
didn't think of that, but it fits i guess. now i want to actually draw samurai jack

>>4160426

is this piece considered /beg/ or /int/? a spur of the moment wip.

>>4144497
saved. based and ty.

>>4145221
The dude on the left is hot, would fuck

>>4130661
Did I do the style justice? Is this aesthetically pleasing? First time trying to do this sort of pinup work.

inb4: hidden hands.yes. I originally had her with her arms out but I thought this pose looked better.

>>4159238
>>4159239
>>4159234
this guy again did two more too see if i belong here did both of these without reference

>>4160584

Adam and Eve sketch for a bigger work, give critique pls

>>4160647
Shit forgot pic

>>4160650
the figures and anatomy are terrible. Before you work on all the other issued in this(perspective, rendering etc). Grind Hampton's figure drawing and anatomy for sculptors for a few weeks.

>>4160560
it looks very amateur yes, not super appealing. It's evident that you aren't comfortable enough with the human form to really execute this style.

>>4160489
can't really tell much from this wip, except that it doesn't look very good?

>>4161402
Cool thanks. I'm currently grinding figure drawing, and I'm definitely still uncomfortable so it gets tiring after a while and I need a break.

@the ones doing all the figure studies: where are you sourcing all of this from?

>>4161881
I use:
- artbook thread has some drives in the sticky with folders full of reference PDFs
- croquis cafe on vimeo (this one's timed, that's a plus for me, but if you don't want it to be timed just pause the video)

>>4161937
idk why but your work looks like something nosebro would do

>>4161901
thanks. second reference i checked out already proves to be challenging.

>>4147099
this would be really great if there wasn't so much smudge tool/blending brush being used everywhere

>>4160428
what is your daily routine? do you have a goal everyday to draw x amount of whatever you are studying in that day or is just random things everyday?

I'm really struggling with lips, the addition of the occlusion shadow always makes it feel fake and drawn on. Can someone please offer advice?

>>4162345
just focusing on figure drawing and anatomy. currently trying to simplify everything into boxes and such to get a better understanding of things. I am to study 3-4 hours per day.

terrible warmup

>>4162850
Those hands and feet are enormous.

>>4162863
You need to check your anatomy, Those bones on the fibula/tibia need to be straighter and kinda curved inwards.The neck also needs some attention. Check the arrows i put, those are the areas you need to work on.

>>4162374

>>4160428
This is from the Nude Yoga if I'm not mistaken.
Nude Yoga by Wenona, I think.

>>4163005
I just ripped a bunch of photos of new masters academy and use that for practice. No clue about nude yoga.

>>4162850
...Fernando?

>>4160428
>1h20min
Please, tell me you are joking. I don't believe you that it took you THAT long for six.

>>4163099
it definitely did, breaking the bodies down and thinking about everything. :shrug:

>>4163097
no clue who that is but I've been drawing bums for a minute.

Feedback necessary. Also, I'm terrible w/ backgrounds, any suggestions? Please and thanks

>>4163165

work on drawing, gesture and anatomy. most of it is pretty bad in this.

going to keep spamming these until someone tells me to gtfo and go back to /beg/ or confirms i can stay here

>>4163454

use some critical thinking, assess your own abilities and be honest with yourself. you won't be able to get far in general if you need everything spelled out for you

>>4163454
Dude. Do you really need someone to tell you that these look like shit man?

>>4163454
Go to beg, you can't even recognize your own chicken scratch.

>>4163685
>>4163798
>>4164195
okay what if i cleaned up the chicken stratch

okay i cleaned up the lines and made some adjustments. considering these are from imagination and using no ref. do i get to be here?

>>4164356
posted wrong pic