/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

what do you think of the cross hatching?

Fuck drawing big

rate

I’m no /lit/, but Shouldn’t that be “heed my advice” in the OP pic?
Anyway, this is the first time I’ve tried anything approaching a background before. Always just draw figures in a white void.

Went back to this just now, taking a few liberties here. Not great but much better than my last attempt. Her face is coming out ok, but how do I make her head less Angelica-like?

>>4102012
How are you supposed to follow along with loomis in his first book? Just try to copy all his little heads?

>>4102065
Fellas It's beginning to look like a grill

peepee doodoo caca help

how do I proportion in a quick sketch, when there's no time to measure it? i can sorta feel it out when there's some reference point (like, 'ear in line with the knee', shit like that) but when not I just have to guess, and i suck at that. Just a lot of practice, I suppose?

>>4102041
bery majestic

>>4102222
hmm

>>4102021
Looks good and I think it follows the forms well. There's some random hatches here and there, but I mean, I'm not one to talk.

>>4102103
I like the style. I think her nose could use some work. As it is now it looks like a pig snout because we're not in a low enough perspective to be seeing the nose from the bottom like that.

Which version do you prefer? Left or right?

I rather like the effect achieved by nothing but blacks and whites but everyone I asked, and every comic I've read, always has grays (and those that don't, the noir stuff, is really niche), so I don't know.

Also, general feedback is welcome, as always.

>>4102252
Left

Vegeta X Majima from Yakuza 0

Goddamn realistic faces, blegh

>>4102312
Based Florachad

>>4102012
Is this...

I did some 4 finger hand studies last night.

>>4102337

>>4102336
Better than this?

i JUST started perspective made easy and are these "problems" the tasks i have to do? Am i supposed to imagine a street or actually go outside? im a bit confused by this book and one of the next ones tell me to stand in the middle of a highway so im thinking im only supposed to imagine it, anyone here went through and can tell me what they did or anyone simply know how to approach it?

>>4102361
oh yeah one also tells me to draw on my blackboard? i dont have a fucking blackboard wtf is this.

>>4102339
>>4102336

>>4102339
>>4102336
the first one is more correct but it feels like you lucked out, draw parallel lines to align the placement of the features
generally shorter snouts are more appealing

>>4102397
Thanks so much anon I tried to save an image just like this but thread 404d before I could grab it.

>>4102361
>>4102368
lads please help im desperate to get started but i also wanna do things right.

>>4102336
>>4102339

you need more fundamentals and construction. don't draw just heads and start from the collarbone up AT LEAST to give yourself an anchoring point, it can help immensely in getting the perspective.

the ears and cheek fur have little depth or dimension and I can see a couple styles you're trying to emulate but the core of your building blocks is off.

perhaps bring down the scaling of the forehead on the far side.

your big problem is just lack of experience in building the basic object. the eyes while a little skewed are nice, but it confuses confuses the perspective a bit and just a bit too far apart.

>>4102338
Any suggestions?

>>4102361
either use a photo or just imagine it

>>4102404
study real skulls both human and animal, it helps a lot. You draw the eyes very flat, you need to understand the fact they're socketed into the cranium

could someone please redline
I assume something's wrong

>>4102433
ty anon u r right i should just use a reference every time unless specified otherwise.

>>4102463

Another shitstorm.

>>4102021
You got the idea on how to show values with it well, but your verticle hatching isn't following form too well, I'd curve it or keep it straight but diagonal

>>4102469
ngmi

Alright so I have this BG right?

I'm locked
I'm stuck
What do I do next
Aside from shade and lights how do animators make their bg's look interesting using only base colors and brushes?

>>4102512
It couldn't hurt to get the boxes right first.

>>4102469
I think your problem is that you are not only trying to draw very complex poses, but also poses you can't imagine doing yourself. Not only the pose is anatomically problematic but it also doesn't make sense from a practical stand point.

Arm/Upper body movement is used to counteract rotating momentum given to the body by the legs (or to enhance the strike, or both). So if you have a character doing a side kick from right to left the arms should be twisting to the right - so the right one will extent to the side and left one will get in front of the abdomen.

Instead the character is raising one arm up and the other is doing devil knows what.

>>4102463

ok trying more then

>>4102558
they are cute but draw on a bigger resolution

>>4102558
Just a hunch, but are you using autodesk?

>>4102103
She looks like from the fucking Thornberries.

>>4102561
no i am using paint tool sai

trying to work on light and shading

>>4102041
Sup nekrotah

>>4102574
Dude relax just pick a main light direction and then use that for reference.

>>4102252
Left, but I think thats because you can develope the one on the right more, add a lot more shadows to it and you might achieve the noir effect you are looking for.

>>4102579
im still learning, light is meant to be like, front/
up

Check for proportion on the drawn figure?..used Loomis as a guide

Am I in ic's leet club now??

>>4102012
>stop drawing start trolling
starting trolling doesnt mean you have to stop drawing.

>>4102635
your drawing is fluid asf

>>4102646
Fluid?

>>4102647
not solid

>>4102648
well of course it isnt yet..its just to map proportions and basics.

>>4102647
>fluid
has good motion and flow

>>4102654
TQ by the way..I will drink to your honor tonight!

>>4102663
ayyy

>>4102647
a druid from florida.

more hedas
always appreciating redline

>>4102688
Nice faces...remember our lord and master Loomis however, Draw the ball and curve round it!

>>4102709
dont redline for another 6 months

>>4102717
and why?

>>4102720
don't pay attention on him, he says that to every redline picture.

>>4102727
phew..so my redlining is actually ok??! are you nuts!

>>4102577
The fuck? I know that dude from flockmod.

>>4102063
it's flat and boring, also resize images

I drew this sometime in June and just abandoned it for no reason.Should I pick it back up again?

>>4102558
Your eyes aren't set into the cranium and they don't have brows. Specifically the one from a top-down perspective, find some references and see how the eyes set deeper inside the plane of the face.

>>4102041
That's neat- are you gonna clean up the patterns if you color it?

>>4102810
No start something new

>>4102775
Dont do colours if you dont know shape, dont do shape if you dont know lines, read the sticky

>>4102512
Yeah the top box is floating up there bud
Add scuffs to the walls. Add texture to the floor?
Add light and shadow.
Use a perspective ruler for the boxes there bud.

I'm going to clean up the lines obviously; and try to figure out shadow blending
how many things am I doing wrong?

When does one know to graduate from /beg/?

>>4102873
You're here forever

>>4102875
FUCKING CRABS AAAAAAAAAH

>>4102847
so dont practice anything, and just get good by reading?

>>4102012
is this ic's waifu?
Because if it isnt...it should be!

Learning anatomy is crippling my proportions, this is epic.

>Fuck this fucking shit
>Try to draw big and fuck up the hips so I good back and redraw to fix it
>Fuck up the redraw now she has a weird ass neck
>Still not in the same pose as the ref despite carefully eyeballing while drawing
I'm drawing way smaller fuck this big shit. Mikey gib me the cheats pls.

I drew another head

>>4102872
I would add bigger pecs and more pronounced shoulders.

>>4102907
this is great, nice work.

>>4102907
rofl

another head

another heade

Are personal improvement threads still allowed? I remember there being some pushback against them.

>>4102966
well imagine everyone having a personal thread

anyone have that cirno picture on teaching how to draw?

This was done in mspaint with a mouse, at work, so I can't use my work internet you get this potato picture on my phone.
But this is pretty much the level of my art. I have the hardest time with drawing hair. Anyone have advice for hair and have some tutorials to share?

>>4102981
huh. i have a hair cut like that

>>4102987
wtf are you a female?

>>4102987
no im space gender :^)

yeah im fem

>>4102996
i feel uncomfortable
im leaving this thread for now

>>4102987
It's a pretty normal hair cut lately. It was suppose to be some random girl. Or I've been noticing bangs a lot.

>>4103000
Trips means you have to go away now

>>4103002
i mean like the long pieces in the font, and the rest shorter

>>4102973
Of course, but still, are they allowed or not?

>>4103009
Ah, I wasn't thinking of that I was just doodling, the appearance is a coincidence. I was seeing if I can actually draw with a mouse, instead of working lol

>>4102012
I did a drawing out of boredom and I feel something's not right.

>>4103027

>>4103027
I still need/want advice on how to improve otherwise I wouldn't be posting it here.

>>4103030
all of it

more faces

ok that's enough, I need to study more animes
anime faces from imag still too weak
see you soon

>>4103089
what is wrong with the most right one

>>4103091
i fucked it

>>4102907
You're well beyond /beg/

>>4102897
Learn to read first. Reading the sticky will tell you how to learn to do lines. Learning to do lines will mean you can learn to do shapes properly, then when you can do shapes properly, colour isn't far off. Don't be a faggot.

>>4102663
Don't listen to him. It doesn't have good motion or flow, your lines suck. Being told you're good when you aren't wont help you. Keep doing line practice every day

>>4103089
No, you need to study basic head construction. All your faces are super flat, and you don't seem to learn. Don't go to animu, go back to realism until you can understand what a face should look like.

>>4103142
ehh ok you're right
i hate realism thou

>>4103144
I don't give a shit. You're going to hate your shitty faces unless you learn to draw them properly.

>>4103145
its not fun

>>4103146
Then why are you here? If you only want to draw for fun, continue drawing shitty drawings for fun. If you want to get better, then learn to get better. Not everything in life is meant to be fun.

>>4103139
Her*

>>4103152
Fuck off, no one gives a shit.

>>4103136
Why so mad kid?

>>4103147
i hate life

>>4103154
I'm not the one who needs to go out of my way to state my gender. That adds nothing. Say something valuable, or fuck off, cunt.

>>4103136
>>4103147
>>4103145
>>4103142
>>4103139
Same fag

>>4103147
>>4103146

He's right, /ic/ is really not for fun. Other boards that are filled with laymen will be happy to see your fun drawings, but here they only irritate people because nobody's really here to be complimented.

There's nothing stopping you from stylistically backtracking once you learn something new and decide it isn't for you. But you'll be really surprised at the underlying benefits you'll gain from better fundamentals.

All your favorite anime stars did it and you want to grow big and strong like them, right????

>>4103159
Yes. That is me. Everything i've said is true. Nut up

>>4103164
ok i will im sorry i dont wanna be like this

>>4103165
Kek
>>4103159
You know calling out a samefag only matters when they are pretending to be more than one person, don't you?

ok then i tried more realistic faces

Dunno, learning from Hampton made me improve my anime drawings lmao.

I'm trying out rendering, but I think my values come out a bit samey (you can see this in greyscale). Should I just start working in greyscale then render or change how I pick color palletes

Did I do a better job capturing my likeness? I have issues with not actually being able to draw what I see. Also fucked up the angle. I know the head isn't a complete side-view because there's a very mild tilt to it and I misjudged just how much of an angle I made the front plane on until it was too late to really change.

>>4103202

okay i believe im getting the hang of this

>>4102936
>>4103133
Not even sure if those are ironic, I do have years of casually drawing under my belt, but fundies expose me for the baby I am.

I'll just keep going. In fact, I think instead of /beg/ and /draw/ generals, there should be a /fundies/ where all levels are welcome.

>>4103217
draw some glasses on to gauge the angle of the face

>>4103227
Yes good better already!

>>4103217
Ya know, there is nothing wrong with some intermittent test-tracing to whack your perception back in line, when you're not sure whether or not you're getting proportional distortion. Lining up all the stuff in the head is actually really difficult since there's super subtle perspectives at play, putting things in places you're not intellectually inclined to anticipate.

Your brain will actually appreciate it when you do a test trace to see where you're going wrong. It also trains your muscle memory for all the kinds of curves and angles that exist in reality that your hand doesn't want to make by itself.

I drew a funny person

>>4103240
She makes me wanna bust a gut AND a nut

>>4102222
Pretty nice, though atm you can hardly see anything, might be because you're not finished yet, but push the values more.
Also it's getting very wide around the eye-level, especially the ears come out to the side like wings, more so than they're sitting behind and going back into space.

>>4103211
Pretty good anon.

>>4103217
If you've invested so much in something like this that you feel it's "too late to change", you probably invested too much. You'd be better off doing a handful of shittier ones in the same time, and learning from the mistakes of each one. e.g. my shitty ones here.

I'm currently about 15 minute into this.I tried to redraw some old art from 8 months ago,aside from the fact that I haven't improved at all,am I chicken scratching,and is there anything wrong with the drawing so far?

tear me to absolute shreds pls

>>4103315
Yiff

>>4102469
>he was the shit talking grid paper user from all those months ago
Fuck you retard

>>4102103
Update on this, her left arm is fukk'd and I'm gonna fix it, but it's nice to be this close to drawing a fully fledged body. Also changed the face a bit.

>Digital drawing promotes to some extent a form of symbol drawing because of the lack of line control from drawing on a small slippery tablet with no screen

Truth or cope?

>>4103402
Lack of control promotes symbol drawing? I find the opposite. Looser media makes me rely more on value and broad shape to define form. If you're worried about it, do your studies with a fat, textured, chisel or other asymmetric brush so that you aren't tempted to define everything with thin lines.

aka cope

Help please, how do you go about creating a good painterly drawing? I really don't know how is the actual process done, the brushes and layers and all that stuff, I'm just trying whatever to see what sticks.
I think the hair looks good but the rest feels like I don't have any idea what I'm doing, I wanna paint pretty girls dammit

Woke up from a sudden nap and decided to do a crappy self portrait instead of going to bed. Kinda like how this came out, especially the 90s cartoon styled lettering I did

>>4103426
I wanna paint like this dammit there must be some way please tell me masters

>>4103437
oh it's simple really, first you need to-and that's how the masters paint

>>4103426
>>4103437
hard round brush, single layer, get good

Seriously there's no trick. People have painted better than that for hundreds of years without layers or undo or photoshop filters or any other bullshit

>>4103454
Sounds fair, my problem boils down to not understanding paint. I'll just try to copy that >>4103437 pink picture as a study to see if something sticks.
How frustrating, I thought I was already at that skill level

>>4102252
Yknow what this reminds me of?


DON'T ANSWER THAT, A RHETORICAL QUESTION

Thoughts on this?
I had a lot of fun shading the cloaks, especially the guy's

>>4102978
Children have large eyes proportional to their heads. No joke, human eyes dont get much bigger from birth.

>>4103437
>Paints woman heads
>Gives them man's bodies.
>Thinks that is how JoJo works.
Well I guess if someone can only paint just one single face you have no choice but to make a fool out of yourself.

>>4103545
idontgetit.webm

>>4103426
Decided to redraw her, this lineart should be good enough for some big resolution rendering so I have no excuses. Also she looks a bit too much like Madoka, I guess we really are slaves to our visual library and tastes.

>>4103684
They're cute

Hey guys is my perspective ok i started to rotate things freehand

Tried combining a character I like with a pose I saw without tracing, took ages before proportions on the sketch felt right. Anyone know where the demon is from found it on 4chan somewhere

>>4103800
Perspective looks fine to me but it seems you are forgetting details/making changes with each iteration so just keep in mind what you're drawing I guess
Good job m8

>>4102041
Bad

>>4102012
I don't fucking get it /ic/, how? Art pisses me off, and the second I try and pick up a pencil I just get more and more pissed. Yet the cal arts meme looks like the easiest thing to even do, but I can't even keep a straight enough line to do it with. Am I cursed to never go beyond shitty meme doodles? Even when I study refs for hours on end, I never grow.

>>4103889
For instance, the last time I drew something serious that wasn't a cartoony page for a comic was this half-elf for my DnD session, and the more I look at it, the more flaws I see and the more pissed off I get. I've only gotten worse since then.

>>4103889
i get this when im suffering form mental health, dont over do yourself, ily

>>4102469
You are truly ngmi.

is there some alternative to pain with a pencil?
it is a pain for me kinda

how do i do

>>4103889
You need to train your basic form and precision. Take two equal pages and a pen. Place 5-7 dots on one of the pages. Connect them with straight lines. Then copy the dot placement on the other page and connect them with lines again. Do 2-3 times a day before drawing what you actually want to draw.

another day of grinding to become anime porn artist
construction still bad
waiting for a breakthrough

>>4103957
Maybe try more intermediate steps so to speak. Check out the Loomis books where he shows the planes of the head and draw them all. Not just the outline. Yes it won't look appealing but you right now don't need appeal - you need understanding of the form.

How is this looking? It's just the sketch right now and I'm worried i'm gonna mess it up with line-art.

>>4103957
Draw the cranium too. Looks like you don't really know it's dimensions, especially judging from the top right one.

https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg

>>4103437
Those are guys for one and two this person put women heads on a male body and thought that it would look like jojo so it ended up making it look slightly soulless and taking away from the charm jojo had

>>4103976
First interiorize the fact that you have absolutely nothing to fear if you're on digital. You can undo, delete the whole layer and try again, whatever.

About the sketch itself: if you draw through the girl's body, you'll see the dude's arm is actually long as fuck. Also her hands are really tiny. I sometimes put my hand next to my face to compare their sizes and not draw them to big or small.

here's a study i started, i wanted to improve my understanding of leg muscles because i can't render thighs for shit.


planning on copying some cases of hogarths rendering because i'm terrible at smoooth ball like surfaces

applied advice
small breaktrhough
good helper method discovered - draw spiderman eyes / skull eyeholes
head looking up still difficult. will need reference to grind

>>4104023
the eye crevices are the same shape on a skull. so if you want more detail you can draw the skull a couple of times and then draw a face from refrence and look at where the structure of the skull reveals itself above the surface (like the cheekbones)

also your lines could be a bit cleaner. just ghost your lines before you put them down. so you draw a curve confidently

I need to work on the lips a bit more,but,aside from that,are there any problems?

>>4104077
you need to think about drawing the parts of the face that surround the mouths, eyes, nose, lips and ears. draw some asaro heads bro

>>4103229
It's ironic. He's being a dick.

>>4102012

did challenge

>>4102934
just stop

>>4103276
are these /beg/?

>>4103030
nice diapers

is Hampton's book the best and only way to learn to construct a human body?
what I'm interested in is the what I call 'journey of grinding'
so I should first
1) grind gestures untill I get good at them
2) add skeletons to gestures until I get good at it
3) keep adding stuff and more detail

>>4104308
all of it, at the same time

>>4104328
yeah ok but why add skeleton to a bad gesture
gestures themselves are the hardest part of this process

>>4104329
Because gesture is the most loose part of the drawing. You can always adjust it when you are adding actual body parts.

>>4104280
My gestures/ figures are getting pretty good I don't really expect feedback on those, I usually just post them when commenting on other stuff.
More beg in other areas, like the head.

>>4104280
You could say they aren't, but remember drawings are composed of many more things. Just in case you thought "Why is this anon here?".

>>4104308
>is Hampton's book the best
Probably not.
>and only way
Definitely not.

really bad and flat, but a painting of myself

new head

Not /ic/ related obviously but are there any good apps for Android for resizing/rotating phone pix?

>>4102012
these threads are unironically the absolute worst for beginner artists for the reason in that comic
if you're an ACTUAL beginner, you'll be ridiculed, and its really mean spirited and not even funny. like being told to quit and dont draw anymore
this general is entirely for intermediates to seek small tips and validation and thats all.

>>4104473
the shading on the thigh is really nonsensical
post ref :^)

>>4104550
>like being told to quit and dont draw anymore
nobody wants your furry porn man

>>4104550
nobody here is an actual beginner, I assume most people just never realized how dogshit they are until they came here

>>4104550
In a way it's true but you're taking it the wrong way. See, there has to be SOMETHING to critique in your piece; this isn't an art school where you come drawing stickmen and ask for advice, I'd just tell you to go study books and see youtube tutorials and come back a few months later. And that isn't necessarily intermediate level, but it's up to our standards if it's worth critiquing or not. Also boredom, I don't always feel like writing advice and just lurk.
>>4104502 this is worth critiquing for example since he's trying to use the techniques to construct something. Also I can't think of anything to say about it, maybe draw eyelashes?

>>4104577
Also this sums it up better. No one wants to see elementary school drawings that your mom used to hang on the fridge.

more heads
lines difficult
can't figure out attractive face
a little bit closer to anime porn

>>4104583
I've been drawing for 7 years and there are people here better than me

I tried to make a thing with volume, the basic lines were on I guess.
Then I added color and the whole volume thing just vanished away completely.
How to do better at that stuff?

>>4104647
Show thing. But in general you need values - shadows to show volume.

>>4104661
Oh no, that drawing must remain buried in the deepest underground forever for no one must see that abomination.
Sorry

My attempt at doing the head construct from Cartoon Animation. May need more attempts later.

another head
gonna have to do studies of western artists to reach the next breakthrough

>>4104698

the fight to stop drawing 6 heads and asymmetrical features continues

>>4104614
The correction at the left is probably fucked up, but I hope you get the idea.

tried this from the other thread

>>4102063
Ngmi

Trying again.

another head
maybe this is cute somewhat?

>>4104780

Just broke two spines

What are the prismacolor pencils for skin tones , the ones i have make my characters look sunburnt

>>4104572
... can i even do that here? i didnt use a reff just thinking about it, and yeah, i have no sense in shading yet

More hands. Yaaaaay.

H-help... why does this still feel kinda unnatural? If I had to guess, the "paint" feeling overrides the textures. I already did everything I know to make it look like this picture >>4103437 but that one still feels more solid than mine.
What's the difference?

>>4104905
Wait I know, it's the background, the background should be as bright and colorful as the character

>>4104905
alot

>>4104919
You put in a lot of work for not a lot of results

>>4104921
is this your advice?

>>4104930
My dude there is no advice to give here , i dont know what were you triying to do and you dont have any understanding of the basics , you are asking for advice on a bunch of scribbles

>>4104930
Not him but we'd have to know what you wanted to do to give advice. Though to me it looks more like a Graphic Design subject than a drawing one. As a music cover or internet image or logo, it works and that's fine.

>>4104937
>>4104930
If i had to give you any advice it would be work smarter rather than harder

>>4104846
>>4104856
Pls

Feeling gay

>>4104765
Oh. I’m sorry.

having a go at some digital art. working on shading and figures

>>4105051
a bit more

I kinda got over my fear of posting stuff

>>4105068
Forget pic

A painting I finished a few weeks ago.

How do I learn to paint as a total noob?

>>4105079
learn abit of color theory, then slap colors together

>>4105078
i love it

>>4105088
Should I learn to draw first?

>>4105091
Thanks. Here’s one that’s almost finished.

>>4105098
I didn’t. But I’m still just a novice. Learning to draw would be what I would do if I could start again.

>>4105104
I really like your work. Do you have a drawing background? What resources did you use to learn?

>>4105109
I don’t. I started at an older age. 45 Was in the hospital a couple years ago and they had pastels in the family room so I just tried to do a Bob Ross. I then got addicted to it.

>>4105109
As far as learning. I did a lot of YouTube watching. But then I found Stefan baumann. He’s a great landscape artist and I hired him as my coach. He has a fantastic YouTube channel. It’s not a how to. It’s a how to think.

>>4102012
1/3

>>4105135
2/3 Watercolor

>>4105098
you dont have to, but if you want it to look good, yeah. do both at the same time

>>4105137
3/3 posting one of my rougher ones by my standards. Just so you guys can get an honest look of where I'm at. If there was ONE THING I should focus on what should it be? General advice is good too.

>>4105138
Would drawabox be a good resource for this?

>>4105149
do what works for you. tip from experience tho, dont draw everything at the same angle, really fucks up long term progress

Crit

>>4105176
*squints*

Any tips to make this more realistic and pretty? I'm still willing to work on it, I could spend a few more hours on it adding paint to see if it improves but I don't have any clear objective. I hate that it still feels amateurish

>>4104702
Could be worth reading through Anatomy of Facial Expressions, it's on LibGen. Shows all the muscles and fats of the face, the planes of the head, how contractions effect facial expression.

Take visual notes on almost everything there while focusing on the forms of the face, not appeal. Then study real faces with the anatomical knowledge.

found an old sketch of an ex posing for me when we were still a thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I've been trying to practice form and anatomy from memory, I know the head's too big but are the rest of the proportions correct?

>>4103089
Make sure every single mark on a head matches the contour if how it's supposed to be represented in space,

>>4103240
I enjoy this a lot, but you need to work on your upper torsos, her shoulders are stiff and out of prorportion, the collar bone and deltoid relationship your made isn't close at all, deltoid should be in more

>>4104308
Hoho, wait until you find Bridgman

>>4104745
At least try to foreshorten

>>4105427
No they are far from correct, but you have a good idea of space, pick up an anatomy book, preferably Bridgman's life drawing book

>>4105450
Will do, thank you.

>>4105427
1 head down is the nipple line, another head down is the belly button and a third head down is the pubic bone

is there a trick to getting good at gesture besides grinding

>>4103276
I really don't know how to go any further than this I fear I would ruin it if I push the values

This happens almost everytime when im drawing.. maybe because I haven't done a thorough values study yet idk

>>4105518
Doing the poses yourself. Try to take the pose and concentrate on where your body parts go.

Trying some extreme perspective poses from reference and hatching ugly mugs.

>>4105443
yeah the perspective was non existent
Im sure hampton does foreshortening but I havent got to the chapter yet

When will drawing become faster?

Jaws and cheeks are still fucking with me. How do I get a better understanding of them? Just can't see their forms in 3d space.

I know. I know. ngmi
How do I stop sucking?

>>4102012
For the next week, I'm going to start doing three different 1-hour study sessions a day. Whole bodies, hands and feet, then faces.

Here's my first body session.

I sure do fuckin' hate myself. I didn't realize I was this garbage

>>4102557
Shit. I did forget that kicking morion. Thanks.

>>4105658
Ahh alright, you'll get it then m8

>>4105563
Nice, how tough was that skateboarder for you?

>>4105685
You'll get it just keep observing your drawings, some of your ears are way too far back from the eyes, I think this is a commom problem for beginners and professionals, pay attention to that zygomatic ridge and feel it on yourself, it's a smaller area than you would think

I need to better into anatomy

and everything else.

>>4105845
Very. I still fucked it up and chickened out on how it actually looks. It should be at around 60 degrees so that he almost stands on the side of it instead of flat.

started playing around with colored pencils uwu

Can someone give a redline for the right arm, please? It supposed to hold the ball, preferably from beneath it. I know its a weird placement, but in the story the girl ends up pregnant, so I want to give a little foreshadowing..

i drew sonic, it my first drawing

>>4105889
incredible piece

>>4105975
More like incredible pace cus G O T T A G O F A S T

>>4105975
thankyou!
>>4105988
sonic is very fast!

How do you remind yourself to use a "basic unit" when drawing?

I keep remembering that I have to use it, but it's hard when you don't have the habit for it.

Anyone willing to comment on the anatomy/layout of this piece? Guy coming up the stairs is being shot by the woman at the top who is in motion (running or something, there's a fight on both levels of the building). Tried making the pose dynamic but it still feels kinda stiff to me.

Idk if I should use coil or box for foreshortening. Or a combo of two? Coil technique is SO useful for me figuring out proportions but Idk if it's good for foreshortening. Anyone got any experience with either of these?

>>4106009
You should think that composition through. TFor example, the woman right now is in the middle of the door frame, and you can't understand the action clearly. You can try making her either leaving the frame or entering it.

Who the shot is about? What am I supposed to feel at the moment? What's the story? How come the dude is way more important than the woman? Is he the main character? If not, why is he taking all the space in the shot and we feel closer to him atm than to the woman? Why did you chose this lens for this shot? There's not a lot of depth between the figures, so the drama is lost, and we feel that those two are close somehow on an emotional level.

You have to ask yourself these questions. Get yourself some books on comic books, composition, and cinematography.

>>4105855
You need to learn gesture drawing. Read Drawn to Life or torrent Vilppu's NMA course.

>>4102228
>>4102489
thanks guys. I'll keep that in mind and keep the grind going

>>4106013
Box advantage is that it is very easy to find the middle by using diagonal lines. So you can make elongated box, find the middle and that's where your crotch will be.

>>4106143
nice, go color it digitally and will be real interesting i bet

Is it possible to learn to draw using only a tablet?
I'm thinking about buying one because I am ashamed when someone sees my drawings and this way I would be able to draw anything without people seeing it. It's not that I draw some weird stuff, it's because I'm starting and it all looks like shit.
Anyone done it this way?

>>4106274
You can get blank A5 books to carry around with you in a bag and scribble in, they are pretty cheap as well compared to a drawing tablet which starts at around $100 dollars (taking my own wacom as an example).
https://www.amazon.com/5-5x8-25-Hardcover-Notebook-Acid-Free-Drawing/dp/B07SQXCN37/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=empty+book&qid=1567969480&s=gateway&sr=8-5
Of course you can also try and find a ring binded pad with clear pages but a book type keeps the pages neater due to the hard cover.
I'd say just practice any way you feel comfortable, I only draw at home so I don't really care what I draw on or who looks at it since it's just practice.

>>4105072
Friend, it is good that you are trying rendering but please get your light knowledge sorted before you attempt this.

Have you seen the foundations of light and shadow youtube series yet?I f you have not yet then please do watch it and understand the theory abuot light and its behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV2X3tgajVlHkH3FHxm3rLZWqScFTRhtv

pic my attempt

>>4106298 NEW

>>4106288
what the fuck, big yikes my friend

>>4106274
just get a medium size wacom one on amazon, cheap and really good. forking out extra for buttons or sensitivity levels is throwing money into a drain.
also do not touch any other brand except wacom! huion is TRASH

>>4106335
What's wrong with it?

Doing a piece of fan art (wip). I think I fucked the proportions though, may scrap it and restart. Thoughts?

drawin hawkie again, feelin good about it