/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I can do it for 30 bro

>>4083753
Searching "commissions open" on social media can help, there are also some discord servers dedicated to finding commissions. I'm in this one, though I haven't used it yet: https://discord.gg/YjZgja

>>4083765
Post your work at least

>>4083753
>$70
>for THAT
are people who like the tumblr artstyle actually this gullible?

>>4083793
It's all about demand. If the artist's popular and has a large fanbase they can get away with charging whatever they want

>>4083793
70 for two characters is actually a fair price, also the quality of pic related in OP is good, stop being such cheap faggots, if you want commissions at 10 bucks go fucking deviantart, artist are not your third Word slaves, you have no problem paying for games but the honest work of someone else is not worth?

>>4083804
moreso that i could shit OP's pic out myself and i wouldn't be willing to charge a dime for it

7 burgerbux

>>4083812
Sure buddy, sure.

>>4083813
this makes me want to smoke

>>4083813
Cute
Don't under-value yourself, anon

>70 bucks to feel disgusted
whew

>>4083753
Fuck you, nigger, I’ll do it for free.

Shit, I’ll go further. Not only will I draw your characters, I’ll pay YOU instead.

>>4083823
>hehe better pay 150 for a jap polished turd

What a deal!

>>4083823
Who would have thought that there are people out there with different tastes in art than you

>>4083753
reddit
/tg/ draw thread

>>4083826
Draw a cute girl with horns

>>4083828
>hehe better pay 150 for a jap polished turd
yes. and it's funny you say that, because that deformed leg looks exactly like an unpolished turd

>>4083833
Pyw

>>4083829
not different, just bad

>>4083841
>it's bad because I don't like it

Only on /ic/ you see this kind of shit

>>4083841
The people paying for the commissions don't think it's bad

>>4083845
>Getting it backwards
He doesn't like it because it's bad
And you're sucking off shitty artwork

>>4083848
I don't think is bad, and i'm sucking nothing, i'm just saying the comments of the other anon are just baby cry because he doesnt like "the Tumblr style", i'm pretty sure that very anon drolls over genuine bad artwork, or is just baiting, either way is retarded as fuck, I have seen people here suck absolute shit, but because is of their taste they think is better, same applies backwards, if they don't like it then is trash that worths 0.

>>4083855
anon, i don't give a shit about "tumblr style". the artwork awful, that's all

>>4083866
Could you explain why? Like what makes it awful? Because saying that proves shit, come on, i'm sure you can be objective and tell why is soo awful.

>>4083876
No use arguing with a crab jealous over commission prices

>>4083804
>you have no problem paying for games
Making some assumptions there.

>>4083813
blog?

>>4083753
>someone will pay $70 for that
i-is it the peak of capitalism?

>>4083876
i could talk about the ridiculously thin necks, missing right boob (she might be a cancer survivor), banana fingers on left hand inconsistent with right hand, deformed legs, monster hands and thick arms on that tall creature, the "can't draw two eyes" and "is that my left or right foot" syndromes, but you'll probably say it's his "style", so i'll just point out how generic, boring and uncanny it is

>>4083907
the crabbines in this comment is strong, also pyw

>>4083906
i think it's just someone who wants to pay his rent with his art.

>>4083804
Playimg devils' advocate here.
Video games provide hours of entertainment and don't require me to wait for days/weeks for them to be done. It's also super easy to find good games for as little as $5, even free sometimes.

>>4083993
Yeah, but this is like paying someone to do the game you want...

>>4083993
videogames are mass-produced pieces of entertainment designed to be sold to millions of people. the cost of any single design or asset for that game is well in excess of 70$
if you want a specialized good produced just for yourself and you want it to be of any passable level of quality at all, you need to adequately compensate the person who makes it for their time.

>>4083999
It's more like paying someone to make 5 minutes of a level from a game I want. Also, checked
>>4084012
Indie games cost as little as $5 and aren't selling to millions. And indie games are often made by more than one person. Why does 6 months of full-time development from 2+ people cost less than a day of work from 1 person?

>>4083813
im interested in commissioning you, anon! do you have any other commission styles youre selling, or just this one?

>>4083832
That’s very vague. What other parameters must be factored?

Should it look like pic related?

>>4083804
Your argument is pretty silly anon, you're basically throwing out that huge factor called "skill/quality". I'm pretty sure a lot of anons here have no problem paying over 100 bucks for art that's actually worth it, something they genuinely enjoy.

Even if you call your stuff "honest work" it doesn't amount to much since it's rather beg (assuming you're OP) and probably has lower value for anyone that comes across it. You can counteract that by boosting your popularity, if you're not really into pursuing art more deeply.


Also comparing some doodle to a game will usually get you a lot of negative attention

>>4084169
how do i delete this

>>4084172
Skill/quality isn't the sole factor people buy commissions for, though. A huge part of online art commissions is about getting specific artist to draw for you, and if an artist is popular and high in demand they can charge whatever they want. You're not paying for art quality, you're paying for THAT specific artist to draw for you, it's the prestige of having a popular artist draw for you that people pay for before anything else. It's why popular furries can charge $1000+ for simple commissions, and it's the same thing here

>>4083832
i only drew one horn. if you want horns plural itll cost ya.

>>4084247
>also the quality of pic related in OP is good
kek, thanks for proving >>4083804 wrong

>>4084173
Anon, don’t lie to me and say that you wouldn’t want to suck on those nips if you had the chance.

>>4083988
>b-but i don't like your explanation
hehehe, now explain to me why it's good

>>4083790
That was great and awfully depressing. I joined the discord channel and looked at the history of ppl offering their drawing services. Way back in time ppl were charging $40-70 but slowly it changed, now the new posts are saying all do a full body for $3. Lololol. Race to the bottom.

>>4083813
Don't forget that undervaluing your work fucks both yourself and other artists. That's worth at the very least 40-50 bucks.

>>4083813
are you fucking 14 or what? 7 dollars isn't worth drawing anything for anyone

>>4084348
7 dollar are worth 380 argentinian pesos, anon. i can survive for almost a month with that.

>>4083813
Blog link? I want to commission you

>>4084351
Facepalm,
These third worlderers are seriously dragging the prices down
Can't even buy a burger with that over here

>>4084343
> Don't forget that undervaluing your work fucks both yourself and other artists.
I fucking hate this argument. "DO N O T TREAT COMMISSIONS LIKE ANY COMPETITIVE MARKET OR IT W I L L FUCK OTHER ARTISTS."

Don't pressure artists to inflate the value of their art because you're too greedy to lower yours.

>>4084351
and you could survive like a year by just charging standard 1st world rates you fucking mong.
>>4084339
this is exactly why you should avoid things like elance & commission apps. they get flooded with 3rd worlders, underage and retarded /beg/s who underbid everyone into unlivable wages. twitter is nearly as bad ime.

>>4084438
>hehehe yeah better keep your prices at the verge of begging

Go fuck yourself, cunt, if a drawing takes me 2 hours I Will charge what my time is worth, and everyone who does commissions should el the same, otherwise retarded niggers and poorfags like you would come and ask for a work saying they Will not pay higher than "15,", y preffer yo flip burguers, drawing takes time, if you don't wanna pay a fair price then draw it yourlsef...oh right, you fucking can't!

>>4084456
oh woe is me, how will I ever afford the newest yeezys and that iphone 19x for 2000$ now that these filthy thirldworlders are willing to do something for cheaper?

this is how you sound, kys. if you don't want to lower your prices don't bitch about others lowering theirs

>>4084456
> otherwise retarded niggers and poorfags like you would come and ask for a work saying they Will not pay higher than "15,"

> art community commissioners: low volume, high standard, expects art equal to or greater in quality than similar artists
> normie commissioners: extremely high volume, probably would've used a avatar creator anyway so objective quality is irrelevant

Uber never got big by selling high price rides to other drivers.

Making a commission sheet to try and hurry along the process of getting down for a gaming PC and maybe a car later on so mom doesn't have to drive me to work anymore...
Thinking about charging $10 for sketches and $20 for linearts
Will charge extra depending on what else I think up like extra characters or monochrome/colors/shading

>>4084476
Uber is not a luxury you retard, a custom commission on the other hand it is.

>>4084496
Then... why make it a luxury? Why not make it more accessible?

tfw cant charge more than $25 for my commissions because no one will buy them if i do

>>4084500
>no one buys your commissions at any price

>>4083753
I dont understand. People especially in this board should be happy to get more money from theyr commissions...

>>4084504
goddamn. guess i have no room to complain. hope someone commissions you soon, anon!

>>4084511
a higher commission price means nothing if there are no commissioners

>>4084531
Well of course your art should be at least good. If thats the case commissioners are always there.

>>4084546
i meant more the price scaring most commissioners off. but yeah

>>4084449
don't wanna. not my fault people won't pay more for your shitty art

>>4084549
In my opinion more commissions for less money is just a waste of my time. I would gladly do less, more quality work and not have to draw all day for crumbs.

>>4084649
this, I rather work on 5 high priced commissions then do 10 at a lower rate that would equal what I could get for 5.

Anons itt have a weirdly low unrealistic perception of what art is worth.

I charge around 30 dollars for a bust just lineart and usually around 150 for halfbody full color. I think the work in op is just right or maybe even undercharging, but that depends on who they're selling to and what the purpose of the work is.

>>4084697
You must be doing something we're not... Because based on many ppl's experience other ppl (commissioners) are A. cheap bastards and are B. not as abundant as most artists would hope. Add into the picture that C. third world "can't poo in the loos" are willing to commission for pennies.

See image for turd world pricing

>additional characters x2
Does that mean 2 characters cost $140, 3 characters cost $280, 10 characters cost $35.840?

>>4083793
>>4083812
>>4083826
>>4084438
>>4084476
Post your work.

>>4084871
This was from a "Post Your WIP" thread that got 404'd.

This is what you'd typically expect from me. Again, I do free commission. If anybody is interested, of course. Please, God, someone-somebody commission me.

>>4083793
It's all about how popular you are

>>4084476
That's the exact reason why uber drivers are living in borderline poverty, are you not listening to yourself? You're not the CEO owning millions of slave labor to do your bidding, you are that slave labor.

>>4084697
this is also something underbidding retards don't factor in.
at any given time, there's a limited number of potential customers, driving your prices into the floor doesn't increase that number especially not enough to make up for the extra labor you do for the same amount of money eg; 1 200 dollar commission vs 10 20 dollar commissions.
beyond that, the lower you go you also increase the risk of externalities like chargebacks, revision hell and just generally flaky and unpleasant motherfuckers who treat you like shit and don't value your time.

>>4084924
What should he do? You won't convince everyone to have higher prices unless you make it a legal obligation to do so. This is why things like labor unions exist, you can't just ask people to make things fair. In this market you will always have other nobodies on a similar skill level ask for a fraction of the price and anon just gimped himself for no reason. You're talking as if prices don't matter, they do. If your prices are high only very invested fans will pay you, and you can only raise your fees if you are really popular and in demand. Most people are not, not necessarily because of skill level. There are really good Russian artists that ask for a pittance 'cause that's what gives them a good pay and they never run out of work. There are people who are OK selling drawings for 5$ 'cause it's better than selling none for 10$.
The big shots vouching for this are out of touch, if I make my page rate 200$ as recommended by [famous artist] noone will hire me 'cause I am not [famous artist], simple as that.

tried to do something similar to the op image's style. never been that great at western cartoon styles though.
anyways people are free to buy whatever they want and charge however much they want for their art. personally id never drop $70 on something that simple when i can buy something like this for $55 http://d.facdn.net/art/009w/1552593567/1552593567.009w_shiemie.png lmfao

>>4083804
>70 for two characters
It says 70 for 1 and x2 the price for 2 characters retard

>>4084957
this is all wrong
you have to make the nose bigger and more crooked, make the blush more red and unpleasant, that cupid's bow is sexist
most importantly, her expression isn't smug or sheepish enough, it's a normal human expression. that's bad! your character needs to look as insufferable as possible

>>4084963
shit ur right. sorry for failing you, anon. here is a revised version that i hope is better

>>4084971
you're gonna make it anon

>>4084957
Well, thats not full figure. Also your lineart is messier.

>>4084971
wow, unironically more appealing

>>4084982
thank u fren
>>4084984
yeah im not gonna spend my time to make a clean, fullbody recreation of that style lol
>>4084985
ok

>>4084850
I wouldn't pay seven dollars this.

25 bucks

hit me on DM

delusional artists have no objectivity about their skill level and what it should be worth. fuck the market place and what it's willing to pay for. have some honor and dignity. ew ew

Make a Patreon with enough of an audience to make a stable living. Use that stability and undercut your commission prices since you're not required to make a profit. Beat out all the other artists in the market.
Any questions?

A portrait drawing done in one hour, I charge 1 dollar per drawing, which is quite a bit where I live at least (where minimum wage is around 35 american cents per hour)

opinions?

>>4085156
The absolute pajeet, this kind of people ruins anything, fortunely this kind of parasites can't compete on digital because, LMAO, they are poor.

>>4085158
I live in Mexico actually

I had a wacom tablet but it broke and I am thinking of ways to make my stall more profitable

>>4085158
>they're stealing our jobs - arts edition
kek

>>4085177
Worst is you can tell is an amerimutt because he didn't know about other countries and low wages and inmediatly assumed it was the street shitters

>>4083753
Tumblr tards sperg when you incorrectly draw black proportions yet forget their palms aren’t black

>>4085158
Thank God they can't afford screened drawing tablets

Jesus I trust in you

>>4085089
>hit me on dm
>doesn't link to anything
Uh

>>4084438
It's not like rampant underbidding has basically turned America into hellscape where the only businesses that can survive are multi-billion dollar corps. Nah dude just let third worlders who can barely draw further kill the art industry and make it literally impossible for anyone to make it as a freelancer.
>>4084468
I highly doubt anyone other than established patreon-whores like sakimi is making anything higher than rent money.
>>4084476
Uber is doing massive damage to the taxi industry and is hurting drivers by paying poverty wages and forcing the drivers to pay for their own repairs, cleaning, and other services cab companies used to pay their drivers. Uber is literally the go-to example of the new-age race to the bottom doing infinitely more harm than good.
>>4084511
People on this board don't draw. The majority of posters are crossboarders and newfags who have been poisoned by the other boards.

>>4085129
>Make a Patreon with enough of an audience to make a stable living.
How do I get 80 thousand followers?

>>4085458
What do you think of >>4084952 is this really all misguided? I know that if you raise your prices you get "higher quality" commissioners who value your time etc. but of course there's much fewer of those.

>>4084952
>This is why things like labor unions exist, you can't just ask people to make things fair.
lol have you actually been part of one?
They don't work at all if your work is globalized and there's plenty of scabs to do the work at the price you won't, which is why neolibs of all stripes want open borders immigration for the jobs they can't just outsource over the net. (which is most of them seeing as neolibs desperately want to keep the worthless middle-managerial class around)
>mfw old left here used to organized squads to viciously beat imported scabs while the new left positively worship welfare-seeking migrants and hate workers with a passion

>>4085486
So what should anon do? Raise his prices?
There will always be other non-American artists with dirt cheap prices so what is he doing that for?

>>4085471
>What do you think of >>4084952 is this really all misguided?
I think he's right in that you can't force everyone to have a minimum price but he's retarded for pretending that anyone wants the minimum price of a comm to be some stupid shit like $200. People just want to at least make minimum wage off of this shit.
>>4085493
There's an argument to be made that if your average artist raised their price to meet a standard it will maintain status quo and create a kind of social pressure/incentive for other artists to then raise their prices, but it's not something an individual can really fix since it all requires cooperation from large groups of people. You'd need some big solution like an Internet artists union (one that actually works) or some big brain shit that nobody has come up with yet to definitively fix it for good. Honestly the way the net has created this weird globalized capitalism might just cause some huge societal collapse in a generation or so, so I guess we don't have to worry too much about the now.

>>4084916
How the fuck does someone be this good and get no commissions?

>>4085510
No polishing, no appeal, no color, shitty phot on dirty paper. I'm not saying the dude is bad, it's just impossible to value his level by that drawing alone. I feel he could be pretty good drawing tatoos.

>>4085527
>No polishing
He said it's a WIP tho
>no appeal
What do you mean?
>no color
Tons of people sell black and white stuff

>>4085545
I know, i'm just saying its impossible to determinate if the guy is good by only that pic.

>>4085545
>ive picked apart everything and attacked each fragment with a separate arguement instead of considering the idea and attempting to interpret the spirit of the assessment in a generous and contextually appropriate way

Why do you 4chan fuckers do this shit just say you dont agree or call him a faggot good lord its so annoying

>>4085550
Fair enough

>>4084916
Ok I'll bite. Draw my oc, she is a ww2 pilot with pink hair, smug attitude and a passion for billiard.

>>4085574
>ww2
>pink hair
>smug

Its like watching a sentient block of wood create an OC

>>4085578
Do it, show every crab itt you are better than oc.

>>4085580
Haha you said the crab word, well memed my friend

>>4085591
Coward.

>>4085552
There was a Reddit leak in aisle 7

>>4085598
Going out of your way to btfo a basic smoothbrained weeb is like getting out of your car to step on an ant

>>4085606
>there
Where? In this thread? You should be more specific
>reddit
What does reddit have to do with anything? Seems like youre being defensive, do you go on reddit?
>leak
It wasnt a leak, there was no hidden information. Maybe lurk more so you understand the common interpretations of internet lingo. You wont look at confused and stupid
>aisle 7
Wow nice clichem whats next a food metaphor?

>>4085609
>I can do op's shit better and for free
>ok do it
>lol nope btfo weeb xD

>>4085629
>I can do op's shit better and for free

Except i literally never said this retard (although i could now that you mention it)

>>4085630
I don't know who you are, i'm talking with the anon who posted the shitty dragon serpent. He asked for a commissioner for free and I asked him to do something.

>>4085622
Haha guys he did the thing he doesn't like while blatantly not understanding the point or reasoning behind that thing haha funny joke

>>4085645
And saying DUHHH LE REDDIT LEAK IN AISLE 7 isnt equally fucking retarded, okay

>>4083813
anon please respond i want to give you money

Id say 10-30 dollars is pretty in the range for high beg like me
I just need to draw more so people want to commission me at all I guess

>>4085643
I’m working on it, you faggot. But, you know, you could always hand over some money to “expedite “ the process. Since I do free commissions (functionally requests), I reserve the discretion to take as long as need since the commissioner has no monetary leverage against me.

Anyways, WW2 pilot, pink hair, smug, billiard, futanari. Got it.

>>4085726
Cant pay you without knowing how good you are, sorry. Anyway thanks, i'm waiting for it.

>be me
>get hired to draw assets for a small game
>get fired
>they put a mexican to do the work
>he charges 10 per asset
>but anon, they quality is the same as you! You should consider lower your pricing
>my price was already low for the time/effort
>the Drawings of Pedro are utter shit, not even perspective is un place

Thanks thirdworlders, thanks for ruining it for everyone, you can love with fee bucks weeks, but I fucking can't.

>>4084916
fyuck. did not expect anything this good

>>4084916
Boring, but you gmi

>>4084456
I havent had comms open for a while but I charged that much because I'm beg as fuck but some people still wanted to comm me.
Pic was $15 in spite of taking me a lot longer than 2 hours because I'm slow.

>>4085897
For your level 15 is almost fine, but you should ask for 20, thats what most artist at your level of skill charges.

>>4083753
If I wanted to make sfw commissions of OCs / fursonas, how popular would I have to be to start? I'm mid/high intermediate but sub 50 followers. I don't want to make an account on FA or other porn sites. I have opened commissions once before but I only got one response and it was unpleasant.
How long should it take to take on a client? How many slots? I want to err on the safe side.

Would people be interested in receiving traditional work? I could ship letter-sized artwork to them as part of the cost (no guarantees), and they still get a digital version. I just don't want to draw lewd stuff.

>>4085792
it sucks but fundamentally you can't stop someone from cutting corners even if it completely undermines their project and makes it look like bootleg garbage.
there are always gonna be shit clients out there with no taste or standards and ultimately their product doesn't sell. just be thankful they didn't waste too much of your time on a dead end project.

>>4085897
>$15 for airbrush shading
I'd pay $5, that is if I have to pay at all.

>>4085954
FA isn't a porn site. There's no real floor on how many followers you need, because doing comms is how you get followers.
>How long should it take to take on a client
I've never personally done OC commissions but I hear times range from a few hours to a day+
>How many slots?
Right now take on as many as you can handle. Slots are a marketing tactic (artificial scarcity) that's used when your name has weight
>Would people be interested in receiving traditional work?
Probably, yeah. If you're willing to do some lamination work you could cut the characters out and mail it and call it a free "badge". Furries love to put artwork cutouts like that on their convention lanyards, and it would give them an excuse to give you free promo

>>4085969
yeah I honestly think my shaded images look worse than when I dont bother
if it matters I used flat shading and blended it with the watercolor brush but the end result looks the same as an airbrush usually

>>4085954
hey there. deviantArt, as much as it sucks, is actually a good platform for furshit/ocs. its a bit difficult to gain followers at the beggining, but if your work is decent enough quality and your prices are also reasonable, youll gain watchers pretty fast. (one artist i know is almost at 1000 in 3 months)
personally, i usually dont take any longer than 2-3 hours on a single piece for any commissioners. for slots i only take about 3-4 at a time because im a full-time student. i guess it really depends on what style youre doing and how efficient you are.

as for traditional stuff, most people on dA tend to stick with digital only commissions, BUT you can sell badges/buttons/etc. pretty well on FA (as said by the other anon). of course you would need a following for it, and its harder to get fans on FA than dA, imo.

>>4084971
kino

>>4083813
make it 30 faggot

>>4083813
Where do you get commmissions anon?

>>4085897
10 dollars per hour is the bare minimum.

>>4083813
>>4083888
>>4084379
https://www.patreon.com/wabaki
https://twitter.com/wabaki88?lang=en
i cant believe youd lie on the internet

>>4083804
based americhad

>>4084438

Art is a privilege! Not a right! I fucking hate people who charge too low. I won't even commissioning them. They're screwing over the artist community. And the people who buy from them are enabling them.

https://www.deviantart.com/dansyron/journal/YOUR-ART-HAS-VALUE-and-how-to-price-it-589455064

>>4086712
> Art is a privilege! Not a right!
Same can be said about most consumer products, but I don't see them priced at $200.

> They're screwing over the artist community.
Make your art affordable for normies or accept the idea that people will undersell you.
Cope harder.

>>4086712
>screwing over the artist community
high end artists are going to be able to sell their work for hundreds of dollars regardless of if others underprice their work or not.
also instead of bitching about it here, consider tipping underpriced artist if youre so assfucked about it. maybe itll give em the confidence to raise their prices and show that people are willing to pay them more

[slurping slushie shitpills]

>>4083753
I haven't had my commissions open in a while, in fact I've been thinking of overhauling my prices since they're +2 years old. 30 bucks gets you a sketch, 80 bucks a regular painted pic and 200 bucks a fully rendered one (per character). Before you ask, it's all furshit. I have some wing it pay what you want for people who can't afford the entry cost, it lets me exercise some creative freedom without feeling like a sellout.

>>4086722
>special training isand a lot of time is needed to sell bottled water

No, art is a privilege since it requires specialization, and that means hours of your life that will not come back. its similar to what happens to jewelry, it not that much the value of gold itself but the craft,

>>4089970
A lot of things require special training to do, but consumers don't usually pay a lot for them. Car mechanics, fast food cooks, app developers. The end product these people make is usually cheap, but special training is required to make them.

At the end of the day, inform smaller artists about how their prices match up with the market, and then fuck off when they tell you they know what they're doing. The commissions world needs more competition, and you people are the ones stopping it.

>>4090098
all thoose are mass produced you dum dum, art cant be mass produced.

>>4090100
>art cant be mass produced.
You are literally on an anime board

>>4090111
retard

>>4090100
>art cant be mass produced.
Animation made for the public, artwork mass-produced for sale (at your local Walmart for example)...

> tfw should be charging 70 when I am charging 45

A shame that I freak out of anxiety when I charge 70

>>4085726
I'm waiting.

>>4090521
Gib shekels and I’ll start drawing faster.

DM me.

>>4083753
I DONT KNOW OKAY
I DONT KNOW
(please for the love of god someone buy something)

>>4090111
I said art, not shit.

I get steady private messages about commissions, so I tend not to publicly post about about my own. If you find an artist you like, take the initiative and ask if they do them. Some don't post about it.

>>4083813
>>4086506
Love you work, Wabaki. You're art is fucked up sometimes, but s'all good.

>>4084957
>>4084971
I like your 'ugly' one better.

I mean yeah, obviously you did some purposeful exaggerations, which is funny and all. But seeing past that, it's less uptight. In your more serious attempt, you were trying too hard to make her perfect. It's a great drawing, both are pretty.

But when I see your second one, it may be rougher, and uglier in some ways, but it's more lively than the first one.

You're a good artist and I'm surprised you're so harsh about the OP. It's totally worth 70 bucks to someone who can't draw. I see nothing wrong with the price. It's a great drawing.

Pic related is my art, whatever it means for you.

>>4092353
Not one to buy commissions (seldom ever get to draw any), but Anon - I just wanted to let you know I find this very cool and dynamic, I like it a lot.

>>4090098
>car mechanics
Anon where the fuck do you find car mechanics under $100? Even with student prices the usual oil change is between $60-$80 without tax
Not bothering with the other shit because you don't seem to understand how either fast food or apps function in terms of cash flow

>>4086712
Every time i open commissions, i get too many requests, and i have to close them in less than 24 hours, otherwise just can't keep up.
Yet i can't bring myself to raise prices, 'cause i'm afraid people will be too pissed off.

People get fucking incensed when Netflix raises prices 1$, imagine if random guy were to double theirs.

>>4092341
Can't, dont know how good you are.

If I made an image every day for 20 dollars, I would get minimum wage in my country

do you think this is remotely possible?
how many comissions do people get and I mean reasonable self-taught furry porn people not some ruan jia tier chink assholes

>>4098206
or you could do one 60 dollar bust every 3 days, or 1 200 dollar illustration every week and not have to shit out glorified clip art.
it's a common fallacy to assume that just b/c you lower your price, the number of buyers will just increase infinitely. more realistically, there's a set number of people who will follow your work and an even smaller subset within that who will buy it at any given time. your goal should be to maximize what you can earn from this group. any business that too aggressively devalues their product will fail and we're no different. you should always be aiming up, not down.

>>4083804
Games are
1 hours of entertainment
2 works of effort quality and skill of multiple people
And 3 less than these drawings

Also it’s 70$ for 1 character retard

>>4086506
Something that I noticed in your stuff: you draw the same facial structure for every character.

>>4098206
>If I made an image every day for 20 dollars, I would get minimum wage in my country
>porn
it checks out. it's just that hookers don't suck only one cock a day

>>4098296
There's hundreds of kids out there ready to pay 20$ to see their OC futa cat-girl fucked by their buddy's OC.
People willing to spend 1200$ on a piece though? Especially since most people on /ic/ aren't really at the level able to compete in that bracket.

>>4098321
Yes, that's why being an e-whore is better than being an actual under-the-bridge whore.
Many girls nowadays do camming and manyvids anyway, instead of just sucking off dunkards in an alley.

>>4098347
>>4098347
i typed it weird, i mean one 200 dollar ilustration, not 1200. 200 is pretty standard for full color character + bg.
>There's hundreds of kids out there ready to pay 20$ to see their OC futa cat-girl fucked by their buddy's OC.
and then they fap, decide they want a hamburger instead and chargeback or ghost you. the weirdos who spend a few hundred on their oc? you can rely on that kind of autism, they're dedicated.

>>4098380
I am in the 50 to 200$ range, and i get very consistent work, in terms of volume.
I still end up making less than minimum wage though, because i'm too slow (or i guess undercharge the render level i provide, depends on how you look at it).
Had around 100+ clients so far, but no refunds/chargeback yet, fortunately.