/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4076141
XP-Pen Artist 12

>>4076141
XP-Pen Artist 12

ipad + apple pencil

>>4076188
Is there a way to Ctrl + Z on iPad?

>>4076204
No, every line you put is permanent. It gets kinda annoying that you have to buy a new ipad after a day of drawing, but hey, you get to enjoy unpaking an amazing apple product over and over again, it's a great feeling!

>>4076149
>>4076151
>12

>>4076141
Is this any good guys? Its the xpen pro 15.6

>>4076225
Well, he said budget. Can't have both.
Also tons of people use the ipad and swear on it and that's even smaller.

>>4076250
Yeah and you can get it for 320 right now

>>4076213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNiMnLTdfs

Nevermind I found it.

iPad 2018 + Apple Pencil

>>4076471
>ipad = procreate
Ugh. Anyway, you can use a keyboard, and do actual ctrl+z. Well, +z.

when a sticky for this retarded topic is gonna get created?
im tired of seeing the same thread over and over.

>>4076701
Yeah, or maybe just a tablet general.

My CTH-470 stylus has a faulty button.
Any idea where I can get a replacement? AliExpress only has the non-eraser for CTL-470. Is the stylus for the CTH-480 compatible?

>>4076250
>>4076372
I just got one of these and it's actually pretty nice, but light strokes with the pen don't register as contact at all, making it super annoying to work with. Does anyone know if there's a fix or is it just a matter of getting what you pay for?

and no, it's not a pressure curve thing

>>4076250
Is pen tilt worth it? The 22” is the same price but without tilt

Any recs for a 22+ in display tablet? I know the Cintiq Pros are the top choice but like hell I have $2.5K to drop on that.

>>4076701
>>4076712
/asg/ is a fairly new general that managed to stick around, a tablet general should be maintained as well.

>>4082176
I bought the 15.6 couldnt help it lel

>>4081113
I noticed that it takes a little more pressure to get really light strokes to register to buy i got used to it fairly quickly

Can someone that's knowledgable about tablets make a general? Also, how many of you use screenless vs screen tablets? Is a screen tablet worth the shekels?

>>4082876
all depends anon.
The first point is if you had previous experience with the analog drawing, if yes, means that you have some habit with that so a screen tablet could be a better and faster option, this also depends in how decent is your drawings skills of course, if you are /beg/ in anything then doesn't really matter.
A screenless tablet is very good also and you can have the same final product than with a screen one.
In the end the main difference is those two things. If you used to draw in analog mediums still, like pen and paper, then a screen tablet could boost your work because you have more control in your fingers, you will need less strokes, less stabilization, more fast linework, etc., BUT a screenless tablet is really more more cheap, and for a decent screen tablet with decent pressure levels and all that, you could already get a screenless tablet.

In my opinion a screen tablet is the end goal. If you are serious with the shit, then that means that you also draw in traditional mediums to keep work on your skills, means that you do life drawings, and all that. But if you need to stay doing drawings the screenless is the first option for the price.
First the screenless, then the screen one.
If you take the drawing seriously and you have the money then go straight to the screen's one, but again if you take it seriously and you are not a kid that want to draw for get attention or feel special, so that you don't have a very expensive device in the drawer in the end,

>>4082876
Both have their pros and cons.
Screenless is cheaper even higher end ones, they won't hurt your neck, but getting used to it can take a while.
Screen tablets are way more intuitive to use, but of course cost more and depending on the angle they can really kill your neck. But the good thing is that you can basicly also use them as non screen tablets sometimes.

I would say get an entry level screenless first and actually get used to drawing digitally, the pressure levels, the shortcuts etc.

>>4083208
>>4083258
Thanks for the replies frens. I've heard lots about the neck/back pain that the one anon mentioned when drawing with screen tablets, kinda scares me. Starting with a entry level screenless seems like a good idea. Everyone buys Wacom, right? Should I get the largest size possible or what?
Also, what do you guys think about using standalone tablets (iPad Pro, thinkpad etc.) for drawing? Seems crazy expensive and I doubt I would do it but I've been noticing a lot of people using that stuff.

>>4083284
>Should I get the largest size possible or what?
Smaller tablets are easier to get used to, but might force you to draw with your wrist which is bad. Medium size is good.

>Everyone buys Wacom, right?
Not really, you can buy a huion or deco, I heard they're fine, and they only cost a fraction of the price of a wacom.

>Also, what do you guys think about using standalone tablets (iPad Pro, thinkpad etc.) for drawing?
Don't know anything about thinkpad, but iPads are nice, though they have their limitations, especially when it comes to the speed of your workflow.

>>4083284
Basicly the more high end you go the better it is to buy a Wacom, but entry level or mid range i would say XP-Pen or especially Huion is the best value for money. The biggest difference in that range is usually the amount of shortcut buttons or an additional small touchpad for zoom etc.
HUION New 1060 Plus might still be the best value for money for now.

>>4076141
Is the XP-Pen light? Compared to a Cintiq one at least?

is the citing 16 total shit? what about the kamvas pro 22?

>>4084415
If portability is a concern then xp-pen is definitely better in that regard. The 15.6 is way lighter than a cintiq 16, plus the cables are easier to unplug and it can run off powered USB if you want to use it with a laptop. The cintiq is higher quality but it's definitely a 'keep this on your desk' kind of thing

Quick heads-up anons
There's a sale at ali this week, so it might be a good time to upgrade (I did)

>>4081113
>Does anyone know if there's a fix or is it just a matter of getting what you pay for?

Get the pen from the Deco Pro.
They have a new very sensitive pressure sensor in that pen and it's compatible with theirs other tablets like Deco 01 so i'd think it could also work with a monitor.

>>4085499
that's wishful thinking, budget tablet models rarely have pens that are cross compatible, let alone between a screen tablet and a non screen tablet.

plus I already returned the 15.6 and got a cintiq 16 instead so it doesn't matter at this point

For less than $650:
Cintiq 16 > iPad Air 3 > Kamvas Pro 16 > iPad Mini 5 > iPad 6 > Artist 15.6 Pro > Artist 12

Avoid: Kamvas Pro 13/12, Artist 15.6, Artist 16 Pro, Kamvas 16, Microsoft Surface, any Android device.

>>4085803
>Avoid: Kamvas Pro 13/12, Artist 15.6, Artist 16 Pro, Kamvas 16, Microsoft Surface, any Android device.
Could you elaborate why should I avoid each of these?

>>4085817
Kamvas Pro 12/13: Pen jitter, inconsistent parallax.
Artist 15.6, Artist 16 Pro: similar name as Artist 15.6 Pro, not good enough.
Microsoft Surface: Terrible pen, massive jitter and inconsistent pressure.
Android: the best pen is a 6/10 compared to the Apple Pencil and the Wacom Pro Pen 2, serious art app devs don't even want to look at that OS (at least iOS has ProCreate and CSP)

A friend and I got an artisul D10s at roughly the same time, it's chinkshit though. His hdmi port on the tablet stopped working within 6 months, meanwhile mine is still fine except the pen cracked a little when I screwed it back together too tightly. However, he drew with it on his legs while sitting in bed while I only ever draw on a flat surface or laptop stand.

It's only $200 so you get what you pay for.

>>4085837
Thanks.

>>4076141
Define "budget". I have a 12" by 24" XP-Pen that I got for about a grand years ago, and that was pretty much half the price of the Wacom equivalent.

I am /beg/ tier and trying to decide on my first tablet, right now I'm trying to decide between the Huion New 1060 Plus ($75) or the Huion Inspiroy WH1409 V2 ($180), any advice to help me narrow it down? Or other suggestions if you think there is something better? I don't want to spend over $200 for now.

>>4076486
Do you actually use this? I was thinking of getting one just out of curiosity despite already having a screen tablet. Might be fun to draw digitally anywhere but the iPad 2018 seems really small.

>>4085803
is iPaid Air that good? I'm interested in a standalone device, so what does iPad Air make better than the other iPads?

>>4085803
So you recommend people to avoid Samsung S tablets, with the only decent wacom pencil?

You're a fucking idiot and don't know anything.

>>4087199
Anon they're decent but not worth the money, the biggest disadvantage is the lack of good software and better alternatives
For the price you could've gotten the Apple set which is more used, or save a bit and get a screen tablet.

>>4087268
The software isn't on par with CSP, yes.
But to act like that anon did and claim the tablets and hardware are worse than the laggy ipad pencil is retarded

>>4087297
>laggy ipad pencil
Huh? How is it laggy?

What about the KAMVAS GT-220 V2? it's the same price as the 15.6 pro, but is much larger

>>4087334
It’s a reaction image shitposter from /g/.

Ignore, they don’t even use the iPad to produce artworks, and their claims are all based on meme charts.

>>4087334
>>4087343
No, I've used both. There's more delay on it compared to EMR tablets.
Slightly worse than an Android but farworse than a Surface for example.
It's because it has auto-stablization software in the OS rather than per software that's the issue. EMR tech (what samsung uses) doesn't have t his.

>>4087358
I also have used both and didn't notice any lag.

Why does it come with a supressor?

I accidentally broke my wacom bamboo create stylus today.
What should I get to replace this tablet seeing as there aren't any replacement pens on the market?
Should I just buy another used bamboo create tablet or should I get something else?
Also I'm broke so I can't afford a cintiq or anything like that.
Please help me /ic/

>>4087450
I'm looking at wacom's intuous pro (medium). Would this be a good replacement for my bamboo create?
It's about $300 which kinda sucks and some reviews note that the nibs get worn down really quickly.
Any input would be apprectiated...

Well, after some research I'm thinking I'll either go with the Intuos pro medium or the Huion H610 Pro V2
The former is $300 and the latter is $90
Obviously I'm leaning toward the Huion because of the price
Anyone have any input before I pull the trigger? Am I about to make a mistake?

>>4087450
For the love of balls anything is better than bamboo.

Huions and Xp-Pens will feel like a massive improvement.
Intuos Pro Medium is a good tablet, if you cant spend 300$ then go for an Xp-Pen Deco Pro its great for the price, like REALLY fucking good.

>>4087589
I had Huions and i would recommend Xp-Pen instead.

Huions are generally ok but the small things like flex and a wonky loose mini-usb port are cons.

Deco pro that costs 100-120$ is FUCKIG GREAT.
The pen is grear, the quality os great, usb-C is quality as fuck and it also has a super helpful rotable dial and a gimmicky touchpad that helps browsing porn with one hand.

Totally go for it, the pen is AMAZING, miles better than the other budget ones.

If you live in a shithole (like me) and amazon doesn't ship there you can order from Ali Express.

>>4087450
>>4087570
Intuos Pro is good. You can also consider a Huion screen tablet. There's a sale on aliexpress right now, the Kamvas pro 13 costs lile an Intuos Pro medium. I'm going to test them at a store, and I might order one if like like it.

>>4087106
The air 3 has a laminated screen, a much better processor, and an extra gigabyte of ram compared to the 6th gen iPad.
I have the iPad air and my only complaint is the shitty file, which is on all the iPads.

>>4076250
Mine gets here tomorrow. Finally upgrading from a fucking Wacom Draw after 3 years

>>4087606
Both those posts are me but thanks anyway.
You kinda sold me on the deco pro but unfortunately amazon doesn't want to ship it to me (Canada).
I've never used Ali Express before...I dunno about the whole shipping from china and taking 2 months to get to you thing.. is it really going to be OK?

>>4087672
Should be around two weeks. I paid for the premium shipping and it took 10 days to Moscow with tracking and everything just fine it arrived with the courier knocking on the door.

And they have warehouses in different countries not just China.

>>4087672
Don't worry it'll be fine. You can record the unpacking on video if you're worried, it'll be easier to get a refund in case something's broken. But I never bothered, and they usually agree to refund anyway.

Best tablet monitor sub $500?

>>4087781
Kamvas 20 or 22 (be sure its the latest the hottest)
Those have decent laminated panels, etched glass, and pen tilt.

>>4087337
I don't think that one supports tilt

>>4076141
the main problem with android devices is someone wants to know, is not the actual devices, but the programs, they are so fucking bad, you could name with yor fingers the ones that could be fine for "serious" work:
>sketchbook
>infinite painter
>artflow
>medibang
aaaand... that's all, i think, yes

-sketchbook is fine but i don't know what is happening with the companie first they have licenses then dont then they unify all the programs in one sigle multiplatfrom application, that hey... it works fine, but they could use so many things of the stylus, like use the fucking button of the pencil to change from pen to eraser, or a inverted panels mode for left-hand people, and you need to make an account and all that to use it.... the stabilizer is shit also, they have rules thats fine

-artflow is fine but you need the full paid version to get .psd files, and is not that powerfull like to make finished pieces, in my opinion.

-medibang is for clean lineart, basic comics and anime related styl, nothing more

-infinite painter can be a great program but need updates, like the way you use the menu that forces you to exit the program when you quit a drawing instead of put you in the gallery.
They have the button option so is really good for sketches, but the pencils are... ok.

The tablet that i have has like 1024 levels of pressure, so is not that good, even with that i can do basic linearts, but no really make a finished piece with multiple layers. So i guess that the new ones that have the upgrade stylus in the case of the samsung's ones are far better, i have a friend that have one but never ask him to draw with it to test the programs, if i ever get the chance i will do it and and i will make a real opinion with authority

>>4087797
Thoughts on xp pen?

>>4087976
Their Artist 15.6 PRO is great but they bigger models haven't been updated and still come with rechargable pens and non-laminated non-etched screens without the tilt.

My guess is that they are taking their time to polish and then implement the technologies they used for the Deco Pro into their future monitors and holy balls the deco Pro is good.

>>4087797
What’s the diff between pro and non pro? Aside from the shortcut buttons on the pro?

>>4088038
The pro are the new series with the cool features i mentioned.

The non pro are the old ones without those cool features.

>>4088041
The new kamvas 20 has etched glass and battery free tilt but is $100 less than the pro. What does lamination do? I don’t see myself using the shortcut buttons since I use keyboard shortcuts mostly.

>>4087606
Is the XP Pen Deco Pro really THAT much better than say the Deco 01 V2? Both have tilt functionality and the same sensitivity range, but a different stylus.

>>4085803
I'm using an old Wacom Bamboo medium size and after some research am considering the Artist 12 based on your post. Going for the 12 because I'm still /beg/ and and it's pretty cheap compared to everything else you recommended.

Can I get your thoughts on my decision?

What's the best graphic tablet I could get in the $50-$60 range? Not looking for anything fancy, something that's 10x6 in or bigger, uses a batteryless pen and no Wacom-tier tablet driver problems would be best. I had a Ugee 5000L but lost the pen, served me pretty well, only complaint was that every shortcut button on it had way too much lag to actually be usable.
Would go for the fancy $80-$100 graphic tablets but I already own a Surface Pro for drawing digitally, just want this graphic pad for when my SP is being annoying as fuck to use and the pen is acting too jittery or inaccurate.

>>4088495
XP Pen Deco 1 V2 is the way to go friend, they just came out with a new model and it's on sale currently for 48 bucks. Go grab it on amazon or the XP Pen official store, I just ordered mine.

>>4076141
>>4076151
Well hey, that's the one I use

>>4085803
I just wanted to chime in to agree to avoid Microsoft Surface. Their digitizer is fucking BALLS and cannot draw diagonal lines worth a shit. Do not I repeat DO NOT purchase if you're looking to draw on it.

>>4088497
There are newer models:
>Artist 12 Pro
>Artist 13.3 Pro.
They're smaller versions of the 15.6 Pro, I would get one of those instead.

Reasons:
>laminated screen (less parallax)
>stand included
>better pen
>tilt function

>>4088445
https://www.storexppen.com/buy/artist-12-pro.html?channel=website

>>4088535
Oh thanks! How long is the sale and what's the diff between Artist 12 and Artist 12 Pro?

>>4088543
Fully laminated screen, tilt recognition, better quality pen, touchring.
Basically a smaller 15.6 Pro.

Sale is until Sept. 15th

>>4088414
>>4088497
I don't know about the V2.
But compared to the older Deco 1 the pressure sensor in the Deco Pro is fuckig crazy good its super sensitive and precise in the same time allows very light sketching and very fine control in the same time.

>>4088592
Cool. Thanks a ton for the tip. I hope I'll like it.

>>4088521
Anon he asked for a tablet under 60 dollars.

>>4088625
that was a misclick, sorry

>>4088054
>>4088041
I'm trying to figure if I should get kamvas 20 or kamvas pro 16. Right now I have a Ugee 1910b and it was ok but color is shit but downsizing from 19" to 16" might not be too bad if a laminated screen is worth it. It probably reduces parallax?

>>4076141
If you are on poverty budget, you can't beat one of these. "Proper" screen tablets and iPads don't depreciate much because there's always demand for them, but those Samsungs were often bought by normal people and fly under everyone's radars as just obsolete junk despite having proper wacom and nice screens, so you can have one for as little as 50 bucks nowadays.

>>4087606
XP pen screen tablets have issues getting them to run in Linux. Is there something I missed?

>>4089224
I have one of these free from doing their ad years ago, and no, they're not worth it even for free. Too slow to do anything worthwhile on.

i have the xp pen 10s and as soon as i got it the new models came out and i was pissed. screen protector scatches easy the res is only 1280 x 800 FML

>>4089296
its still a good tablet regardless. im just thankful to have it as a poor fag

>>4076250
I've got the newish Cintiq 16. This is tempting me after watching reviews.

I find the Cintiq bulky and the colours are bland. I've got a mark on my screen that wont go away

>>4087657
came back to say it kicks ass, turns out the colors on my monitor are really dull

>>4088592
Absolutely seething. I just bought one of those at full price. but at least its good.

>>4088543
The Pro is better and currently slightly cheaper than the non-pro version. Sale is on until Sept. 15.

>>4089224
horrible pen

>>4088495
>>4088497
Got the V2 off your recommendation, Amazon 1-day delivery is crazy. It's pretty great! I thought it'd be a lot harder to use since I'm so out of practice but drawing with looking directly at my hand felt very natural.
Firstly this is so much easier to use for lineart. A lot more accurate than drawing directly on my Surface, no jitter or parallax of any kind is such a needed welcome.It's a lot easier to continue lines without getting that choppy, disjointed look that gives away it was 2 or more strokes.It also feels a bit more pressure sensitive, but that's probably a settings thing. Just need to figure out how to arrange my desk to fit my Surface, keyboard, and the drawing tablet. Only awkward things I noticed is that doing long strokes and trying to draw from my elbow/shoulder is harder, but that's probably because I was drawing with the tablet on my lap. Sketching right on the screen still feels more natural, but I'll definitely be relying on the V2 anytime I'm doing lineart from now on. And the batteryless pen? Priceless, my fingers feel blessed.

also fuck 4chan cause I tried posting this reply like 6 different times and couldn't cause this dumbass site is broken

Thinking about getting the artist pro 12, is it worth it to get 13 or 15 just for the increased size?

Need some advice, should I get the XP Pen 15.6 Pro for $320 or the XP Pen 22E for $400? I like the bigger size but the 15.6 has a ring dial you can scroll with so idk

Also is it retarded getting another tablet when I already have an iPad Pro I draw with? I want something I can use for my pc

>>4091923
Have you tried using your iPad with your PC? I heard there are apps for that.

Is there an xp-pen in the 16"-24" range with tilt sensitivity?

>>4092776
The 15.6 kinda counts for 16.
Other than that - NOPE
>>4091923
Chose between 15.6 Pro and Huion Kamvas Pro 20-22

Xp Artist 20 and 22E is old and shitty.

>>4092784
I like my 22 fak you fuk

>>4088414
>>4088497
>>4088495
>>4091558
I also recently got the Deco 1 V2 in the mail today. Holy shit, this thing is soooo good coming from a Monoprice 6.25 x 10 tablet. The pressure sensitivity is SO crisp, and it feels so nice to draw on.

Highly recommend this thing for 48 dollars, what a fucking amazing deal. Super happy with this tablet.

>>4076213
kek

Anyone got any info on gaomon tablets? My friend has one, is to worth?

>>4096099
>Anyone got any info on gaomon tablets?
Yes. Your friend does. Why are you asking us when you can ask him?

Any Linux users here with screen tablets? Which model do you use?

>>4097295
For linux I would actually go with the new cheap wacom.

Even the screenless ones don't get stellar support.
Huion just don't make linux drivers instead they pay the DIGImend guy
Xp-Pen make their own but they suck and they pay the digimend guy
Anyhow you're better off using digimeend and digimend has no settings, has no side button support, doesn't support everything and not always supports tilt.

If you want a multi monitor setup you're gonna be writing shell scripts with algebraic matrices too, not joking.

>>4097364
>If you want a multi monitor setup you're gonna be writing shell scripts with algebraic matrices too, not joking.

Oh and I suppose that only works in X.
Not sure if you even can do that in Wayland.

>>4092776
The new 22Pro does.

>>4097422
why doesn't it say so in the shop page?

>>4096510
Gee did your dilating hurt today buddy? I'm asking because my friend is inarticulate and unaware of the other tablets and their quality.

>>4087606
So the deco pro just arrived and everything seemed great, installed drivers, opened SAI, put the stylus to the tablet and "SKREE SKREE SKREEEEE"
Why'd you do this to me senpai....

>>4098745
I ordered mine yesterday because of that anon, should I be scared?

>>4098745
What, cliff racers attacked you? What happened?

>>4076141
iPad Pro with Apple Pencil.

So if you're using a tablet on your PC (or mac or whatever) what software do you use? I guess GIMP and Krita are free. Is there anything worth paying for?

>>4099149
>Is there anything worth paying for?
No, if you only draw or paint Krita is everything you need.

>>4091417
Stock pen on those is pretty meh, but the digitizer itself is good, and it's Wacom and therefore compatible with a fuckton of different pens, both from other tablets and sold loose. Wacom Feel Carbon and Fujitsu T5000 stylus are the holy grails of S-Pen/Feel alternatives, but there are plenty of other stuff, including some old Graphire pens and the fucking pencil.

>>4099056
>>4099122
It's the sound of the stylus moving on the tablet surface.
No, I'm not putting excess pressure into it. In fact if I press harder it squeaks slightly less (but still enough to drive you insane)

>>4099524
The nib might scratch if it has a speck of dust sand on it scratching the tablet rub it on some cloth

Also just rub your hand over the working surface to lube it with skin oils, really.

>>4099524
tried putting paper on the tablet?

>>4099574
I didn't try that but what
>>4099571
suggested seems to have worked! I never would have thought of that, thanks fren. The noise is far less noticeable now

>>4099524

My Wacom goes squeak squeak squeak .

>>4100301
But what does the fox say?

Any chance I could make my Samsung galaxy tablet s3 work as a mobile drawing tablet?
Sometimes I'd like to draw on my bed or outside on the porch so I'm looking for something mobile. The mobile cintiqs seem expensive, even more so than an iPad and pen though, is the quality worth the price despite having just 1 function?

>>4076486
Is there a benefit to the new iPad Pro vs the 1st gen for drawing? I've been using the old version because I was given one for work and I dont need it for anything else.

>>4101884
What, you already have it but you're not sure if you can make it into a portable drawing tablet? That's, like, its main function.

>>4101902
If you already have the 1st gen, there's no need to upgrade. That said, the newer versions have faster processors, and maybe more ram, I don't remember exactly, look it up.

>>4076188
Ipad 6th gen only has 2GB ram, which limits the number of layers you can use (4 in procreate). You'd need to get an ipad pro to functionally draw on it, which isn't budget price at all.

>>4097440
then why dont you ask your friend and borrow it?
god, youre fucking retarded.

>>4102123
Honestly maybe it's because I've been too spoiled by my old intuos and drawing on the galaxy feels like a cheap gimmick so I sort of blamed it on the quality of the tablet and pen or the program I use to draw on the tablet. I came here hoping someone would confirm or deny my suspicions and recommend a better screen tablet if it was the case.

>>4102478
Dunno what you're talking about, I bought a tab s3 after using my intuos pro for a year (and an older beginner level wacom tablet before that) and it felt fine, not stellar, but enough for work even (more or less, I still do most of my work on PC), let alone sketches and studies. What program are you using by the way?

Anyway, if you really want the best, buy an iPad pro, wacom mobile studios are shit. iPad feels great, and there are very powerful apps for it.

Info + personal experience dump for anybody reading, hope it helps.

been doing digital art for a while so I got to try a few different tablets over the years:
>Started with the 2nd generation wacom bamboo
>Got a Huion screenless (it was ok but died in a year)
>Upgraded to Intuos 5 Touch for school (I still have it now, bought it secondhand and it's been about 5 years)
>Used Cintiq 27QHD in school
>Bought Ipad Pro + Apple pencil (1st gen 10.5in)
>Recently bought XP-Pen Artist 12 Pro
The old Intuos series is solid and mine has gone through some accidental abuse. I don't think it'll break as long as you don't fuck up the port. Avoid the new Intuos series.
Cintiq was actually not a great experience for me personally, I didn't like the feeling of drawing on it, I think it might've been the parallax. I didn't notice the same disconnect with Ipad pro.

I've drawn my Ipad Pro almost daily since getting it (end 2017). Size might be an issue for some people but I'm used to drawing in A5 size sketchbooks, and 10.5 is ok. If I were to buy it again, I might go for the 12.9 for the battery life. It's annoying to have to charge your ipad after drawing for 4-6 consecutive hours. You can draw while it charges but occasionally it doesn't register your touch gestures/lines and is generally more annoying. Pen battery life is good.
Procreate also has given me consistent issues with it randomly not registering my touch inputs, and I'd have to lock and unlock the ipad to get it to work again, no idea why it happens. This happens occasionally and is a mild annoyance, and my touch inputs work on other apps/homescreen when this happens, so it's a procreate thing. My other friend with the ipad pro 12.9 of the same generation has the same problem.
CSP also runs ok on the Ipad pro, even with the 10.5's screen size, but you really have to spend time to sort out a workspace that's not cluttered to shit for it to work decently. (1/2)

>>4102924
XP-Pen Artist 12 Pro has the same disconnect as with my experience with Cintiq, and I noticed the calibration being a little more off than the Cintiq's, it's noticable - when you try to draw a line and it ends up about 1-2 px lower than where you intend. I've re-calibrated a few times and it's still a bit off, I don't know if this is a case of me being continually autistic or the tablet's issue.
The anon ( >>4081113 ) who mentioned the 15.6 Pro not registering really light contact as strokes is right. My 12 Pro has the same issue, and that light contact would register as a line on my Intuos and Ipad. I have a light hand, so it's quite jarring sometimes, but if you're more heavy handed I don't think it'll be an issue.
The 12 Pro also caused some noticable differences in brush behaviour on CSP for me, eg the same custom pencil brush that works consistently on my Ipad and Intuos came out really light on the XP-Pen. The other pens are fine, so I'm not sure it's a pressure curve issue.
I do both lineart + color and paintings, and I would personally still use my Ipad or Intuos for lineart. I don't know if it's worth getting a screen tablet just to be forced to adapt to its quirks to get results, if your art is lineart heavy. If there are anons who uses this to do lineart just fine and I'm just retarded with the calibration, please let me know. I bought this thing because I wanted to continue working while my Ipad charges... (2/2)

>>4102924
oops, it wasn't the Cintiq 27QHD. It's pic attached, the 24HD.

>>4102925
Don't know about the XP Pen, but I've tested a few Huion tablets at a store, and one of them had the same issue where it wouldn't register light pressure, but the other ones (even another one of the same model) didn't have it, and registered light strokes fine.

>Got a Huion screenless (it was ok but died in a year)
Yeah that's pretty much what I would expect from them, they feel cheap, the materials and all. At least the screenless tablets, less so for display tablets.

>>4090964
Me too, literally last month too. Wasted so much fucking money

I use a cth-480 small wacom tablet but my monitor screen is 1920 x 1080 I feel like this thing is way too small. Does everyone just shrink their drawing space?

Who needs a $80,- tablet stand when you have Lego?

>>4088535
>pic related
Oh no no no

>>4088592
My Artist Pro 12 just arrived and its great.

Things I'm not happy about tho:
-It sure did eat up my usb slots (2)
-A very very small input delay compared to my Wacom Bamboo
-I'm so used to looking up at my monitor while drawing, looking down on this, even with the stand, gets kinda uncomfortable but not a whole lot.

Other than these its great and I can even make it act like a third monitor which is helpful as well.

>>4103930
Aliexpress.
Yes really Xp-Pen have an official storefront at Aliexpress and sell most of their shit right there.

I've been googling the Kamvas 22 pro V2 for some time already, and I'm fucking ready to pull the trigger. Anything I should know that could change my mind?

>>4104182
You don't need a display tablet to be gud.

>>4104190
I asked if there was anything I should know not the hear the insecurities of some poorfag

>>4104194

I agree with the prior poster. I have a cintiq 22 and it's no great shakes.

>>4104239
>>4104194
>>4104190
>>4104182
Kek. Don't listen to these poorfag NGMIs. You absolutely need a screentab to make good shit.

>>4104182
The color palette is not stellar it's just sRGB nothing fancy.
But wacom don't offer great one either.

Other than that?
Enjoy your new tablet.

>>4104299
This. Also, don't forget to buy a good brush pack. It really pains me to see beginner artists struggle with some hard round basic shit instead of a proper tool.

the best one, in my opinion, is the artisul D10 or D13 there fairly

>>4104460
Which brush packs?

>>4104182
Same. It looks good. What huion would need to upgrade on it is resolution and having the touch strips be separately programed

>>4105325
Just ask the artists you like what brushes they use, they will gladly reply and provide links, it's the favorite question of all professional artists.

>>4104148
I know, but no sale though.

I'm thinking about buying XP-Pen 12. I used to always draw on small spaces, like really tiny when I was a kid, but I still wonder if 12 isn't too small considering it still has to fit your drawing software's interface. If you assume normal CSP/Photoshop interface and no ridiculous zoom ins, what is the actual drawing space after accounting for all that?

>>4105585
If you have shortcuts for everything you use frequently, you can just work in canvas only mode.

>>4105640
>>4105585
OK, nevermind, I did very rough calculations myself, using CSP.
XP-Pen 12's drawing space should be considerably smaller than A5 but still much bigger than A6
15.6's drawing space should be somewhat bigger than A5, so I think I should get this one instead, because I never really use all of the drawing space, just the middle part of it, as clearly evidenced by the state of my old Bamboo.

>>4099670
Me again. God dammit something has gone terribly wrong.
I got into drawing something and after about 30 mins in SAI both the stylus and the tablet itself just stopped working altogether.
This despite lights stills being on and still having access to tablet settings and everything.
Unplugging and plugging it back in seems to make it work for about 5 minutes before it stops again.
I tried reinstalling the driver (and yes, restarting the PC) but the problem persists.
Has anyone experienced this?
Why does this always happen to me...

>>4106988
I forgot to mention I'm using the Deco Pro medium

>>4106988
Dunno mate i don't have this problem.

Does it still work in other software and windows?
Try to use it with a different USB-C cable, maybe you just got a bad connection.

If that doesn't work then it's just a broken tablet, record your issue on video and ask Xp-Pen to send you another one.
Since it's like 100$ they probably wonk ask for you to ship the broken one back to them, probably.

>>4086374
I personally use the WH1409 V2, and think its pretty good, though its the only one I've tried, so I can't speak to how it compares to others

Recently, I decided i wanna get a screen tablet after trying to, but having little success using a screenless one.
I can spend up to around £600 on one and ive mostly been considering the cintiq 16. I dont want anything smaller than 15.6 inches and i'd rather get a quality one that'll last well than a cheaper but worse one.
To anyone that owns a 15.6 inch tablet, Does it feel big enough? Im used to drawing on a4 but wasnt sure if the UI or some other shit might make it feel smaller.

>>4109396

I have the Cintiq 22 because I like having the ui on. At 16 you would definitely need to be using expert mode with something like the express key remote or on screen menus. The great thing about Wacom software is it works on both the pro and regular line.

>>4087106
To put it in perspective, the iPad is a cheaper iPad Pro Gen 1, and the Air is similarly a budget iPad Pro Gen 2 that keeps the laminated display, so no parallax. Plus it's a little bigger.
The best option is a Pro 3 or the new one that'll be announced soon.
But sitting right at the middle, the Air is the best bang for buck other than the refurb section. Good for artists that think the 9.7 is too small or want the nicer screen.
>>4102125
Not completely true. A 4k by 4k resolution will produce 8 layers. And doing screen resolution which is about 2k will obviously be more. Not an issue if you're not working larger than 4k. The Air or a Gen 2 refurb has double the RAM and is still reasonably priced.

For what it's worth, since I know a lot of people prefer buying new. The refurbs basically come new in box because of the replaced shell and battery, plus the standard warranty. Can't go wrong if you're considering one.

I have a Cintiq 12wx, and i'm done with it, i'm saving money for the Cintiq 16 pro, I Will notice a good difference in screen size? Or I sjould go for the 22 pro? Is just I hace heard the 16 has better color and resolution because of pixel density.
Help

Thoughts on the Kamvas Pro 16?

I own a Huion 1060+ and the thing is 5 fucking years old with zero issues, so I'm somewhat trusting of them

>>4076141
is it better to purchase a tablet that shows your drawing on the screen or one that shows it on a computer?
>ib4 dumdum noob

>>4111851
There's no single opinion, but if you're a noob start with a screenless tablet, just because a decent screen tablet is very expensive. Personally, I like drawing on screenless tablets, it's more comfortable for me, I sit upright and my arm is at a good angle, etc. Once you get used to it, there aren't any real downsides. Well, maybe it's more comfortable to make good line art on a screen tablet.

Has anyone noticed considerable improvement when switching from a non-screen tablet to a screen tablet?

I really think my drawings look much better on paper but I wanna draw digitally

is an old cintiq 12wx worth it?
i can have it for under 100$

I have the Huion 1060 from early this year but I'm thinking about upgrading to an XP Pen 15.6 since it's on sale for really cheap. I don't really know if I'm just throwing away my money since I just bought the Huion very recently so I guess I'm now looking for excuses...

If I'm still in the beginner hole should I get a screenless tablet, or a tablet with a screen first, both would be to practice grinding the fundamentals.

I've got a decent amount of money in amazon gift cards that I don't really have much else to spend it on so money is reasonably less of an issue to a point.

What features are actually important to get and how important is size?

What is the hands down best of the best drawing tablet??

Cintiq pro 24/32

>>4102125
Wtf? This is blatantly untrue, I regularly draw on huge canvases and have never been restricted to 4 layers. Have had almost 100 in CSP.
I have gone through many tablets over the years, all the way from wacom’s volito up to an iPad and I own a Cintiq too. If you’re looking to get a cheap tablet then I do recommend the 6th gen iPad OP, it’s pretty good and apple are about to bring out a new update where you will be able to use it as a Cintiq if you attach it to your pc.

>>4112580
It makes drawing faster for me, which I guess you could view as improvement, but anything I can do with a screen tablet I could do with a non screen one.

>>4076141
This thread again.

>>4114991
>it’s pretty good and apple are about to bring out a new update where you will be able to use it as a Cintiq if you attach it to your pc.

You mean with iPadOS 13? I didnt know you could use it as a screen tablet. I knew there were some apps to use it as a secondary monitor but they were crap

Should i take advantage of the sales and get a Artist Display 22E Pro or just the a HUION GT-220 V2 (or any other huion or xp screen tab)
Been wanting a screen display but cant make up my mind