/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4048057

>>4048047
artist?

>discord

uhh yikes

>>4048058
The corgi looks cute

>>4048065
Yoneyama Mai
https://twitter.com/yonema

Would your mum approve of you trying to draw lolis

>>4048044
>Focus on Tracing/Copying
>Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics
This is why these threads end up having people posting other people's art instead of their own it's ends becoming and inspo thread rather than a study general. You're encouraging aspiring artists to be as derivative as possible and dissuading creativity.

Continuing to explore an anime inspired aesthetic.

>>4048090
Pictures of places like Tokyo, Akihabra, and other places then?

>>4048077
Thanks. Knew I recognized the style from the Tarou's Kicks artbook.

>>4048092
Sorry, I don't understand your question. Are you asking for links to resources or references?

>>4048104
It wasn't a question, rather I was suggesting how real life place in Japan are what anime's more interesting environments look like.

>>4048146
Well you ended your sentence with a question mark lol.
I respectfully disagree as that's predicated on the art direction of an anime. It's not something that can be extrapolated to any given anime.

bunni

>>4048084
yes that's the point of the thread

>>4048244
trash

>>4048246
Being a human copy machine will not make you better at establishing and anime aesthetic. It's understanding form and abstraction of form. Nothing wrong with the occasional study, I'm just not a fan of conditions laid out in OP as I think it steering aspiring artists wrong fundamentally. Draw from multiple sources, as well as draw from life. Turn real life subjects into anime. Anime is an abstraction of reality.

wait you're not supposed to post regular work? What's the point in that? this should just be an anime thread

>>4048263
that's what every other thread is for we've discussed this before

>>4048044
>>4048084
A study server just for anime got no use
bring back /fda/ "fucking draw anime"

>>4048044
I can't draw :(

>>4048044
i like how this thread isn't even good enough to warrant actual art posted in the thread to be used as the OP image

Are these threads worth posting to?

>>4048515
no

did some space jew studies, theres a long way to go yet but i think im kinda getting a little close maybe

>>4048080
I don't think anyone would approve or me trying this.

>>4048764
I'm calling the FBi

>>4048244
She's a qt

>>4048764
Go on

Do you guys ever get accused of tracing despite proving otherwise?

>>4048940
No, never. People usually get accused of tracing if there's a huge gap between their skills, for example exceptionally good forms and perspective but completely no idea about colors and design. Or great proportions and light placement but chicken scratch. Otherwise there's no basis to accuse someone of tracing.

>>4048950
>People usually get accused of tracing if there's a huge gap between their skills

I can see why that is since I don't share much "finished" stuff online or pictures that show the extent of my skill if I give enough shit to commit time to it. But it's every time I post something that isn't a shitscribble I get accused of tracing.

>>4048954
Might be the community, crabs aren't just a meme

>>4048954
Maybe your rendering or something about your art is so bad it looks like you couldn't possibly draw the rest of it?

>>4048940
Actually yes.
My works are very hit and miss depending on inspiration and mood and honestly i have been on a long hiatus and forgot my rendering techniques already.

So yes half of my works look like /beg shit, the other look decent as if they were drawn by a person who knows something.

So i take it as a compliment. When i get accused of tracing that means this work looks better than the rest.

>>4048764
i belive in you

>>4048764
not anime

>OP has like 900 different books
Where do I start?

>>4049052
>cartoons.jpg

>>4049190
Please. All I want out of learning how to draw, is how to draw anime girls with fat titties.

>>4049456
If you're looking to draw a tasty pair of humungous hungolomghnonoloughongous,
my suggestion from these would be
(ポストメディア編集部) How to Draw - Oppai
and
(方天戟) How to Draw - Sexy Girl.
"(Go Office) Basic Drawing - Sexy Characters" is sort of okay but doesn't dive as deep into boobs.

Made this a few days ago.

Anyone else trying to learn the artstyle of Nomura here?

>>4049490
Thank you friendo.

>>4048764
loool i like this anon

>>4048764
god i wish that were me

>>4049492
Nice

>>4049492
Kevin Spacey pls go

>>4049190
>Where do I start?
hampton hitokaku loomis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko3Zaw8zffk&list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8

>>4050254
Do I need to read all of them to be properly primed to draw anime girls? Because I already tried fun with a pencil and gave up since Loomis did such a poor job explaining what to do. He just said to do it, not how.

>>4050249
They're adults though...

>>4050145
who doesnt ? thats basically the gmi anime aesthetics

Okay Yandex translator is not exactly helpful here.

I tried being more "loose" with the study but how did I do over all?

What tablet you guys use?

>>4051061
old wacom bamboo

>>4050658
I am also doing hitokaku. My only complain is that the figure drawng book doesn't explan how to flesh out the stick figures very well.

But, luckily steve huston has me covered.

Guys I'm having a huge issue. In anime The limbs: legs and arms are waaaay longer than my mind is willing to accept.

Just look at those legs. They are way longer compared to the torso+ head.

How do you guys solve this?

>>4051108
It looks fine , she is wearing high heels and long legs are a popular stylized choice

>>4051108
i like long legs.

>>4051109
I am not saying is wrong.

I am saying I can't do it because my mind can't grasp leg length and I asked for help

>>4051108
>>4051109
>>4051114


To clarify I am not saying it's wrong.... I am saying I want to do this, but my mind miscalculates legs as being smaller than they are.

>>4051108
Anime chaeacters are based on fashion models who are tall as fuck and have long slender limbs. They push those features when drawing.

>>4051121
Again, I am not saying it's wrong.... I am saying I want to do this, but my mind miscalculates legs as being smaller and I want to fix that.

That's why I asked help.

>>4051115
Try to make them too long and your brain will adjust

>>4051108
They're not necessarily longer than normal as a rule. If it's not a style you can accept, find one you like.

>>4050673
you made the feet too small. you may have a preference for smaller feet but the larger feet in your reference are a part of the composition and pushed proportions. also, the values are incorrect in your drawing. notice how the white lines break up the giant claw hand from her leg. in yours, there’s little visual indication of the hand being separate from the leg, which creates a tangent. I wish you luck anon, you’re doing well.

>>4051125
Thank you..

>>4048044
is this even worth finishing?

>>4051135
No start over

>>4051131
>>4051128
As an example.

>>4051108
It's stylized. It's not supposed to match the rules irl

>>4051146
Shorter legs make the character shrter and cuter and thats quite popular in anime

>>4051135
Needs better lineart and a larger canvas for that. Looks nice anon I hope you finish it

>>4051129
>the white lines were suppose to be separate
oh fuck I see it now. I was tryin to be "smart" by using more than one shadow values unlike the pic, but I forgot that the white lines were mainly suppose to separate the figure rather than being highlights. I'm such a brainlet jesus

also need to work on feet in general. i love drawing legs because they're fun but for some reason I struggle with feet. Also feel like the head is off- but its probably because I didn't spend enough time and just focused on getting the body right

thanks for the feedback anon

>>4050673
I believe the main issue is you made the torso too short resulting in everything getting squished toward the left so there's no room for the leg.

>>4051152
I didn't said it was. I want to draw like that. Read again.

I'm not sure if I should post it here or /beg/ but I wanted to redraw my girl and I really liked the end, btw, there are still things that border me but outside the hands I really don't know what. Also, I didnt use any ref for neither of them.

>>4051108
Just correct yourself every time you make the mistake. Over time the proportion will be ingrained. I don't think there's any other way.

i hate rendering, but wanted to see how i go reproducing a typical pixiv work. i learnt that i don't have the patience to spend 2 hours on colouring something

what's the best brush for the hair highlights? on csp, i used a dense oil brush and an opaque watercolour for blending, but you can still see the individual brush strokes in the hair highlights

overall really happy with how her skin turned out, the little yellow before the highlight on her shoulder i found to be really cool.

>>4051314
I think some anons discussed that over here >>3856602
Or maybe it was the other thread I saved but it's late, I'll look for it tomorrow.

>>4051091
Do the translations get better or are his drawings intuitive enough to barely need the words?

>>4051325
The second. The text is mostly unnesesary imho.

>>4051061
Bamboo Pen and Touch M released 2011 or 2010 I think, I grew unhappy with it but it took me 7 years. I've decided on buying XP-PEN Artist Pro in the next weeks, I can't afford a Cintiq and they're the only alternative. I've heard about too many issues with Huion

>>4051202
Definitely better technique, but work on your hands and head perspective next anon, the torso->hips tilt is a bit too much, they should be facing the side just a bit

>>4051314
Very pretty hair but I wonder why the colors are so different, are you partly colorblind by any chance? I don't mean it offensively of course. It seems like the reds are missing

Haven't really drawn in a few years, only have mechanical pencils and pens right now.
Should I continue?

>Do daily practice
>Not satisfied with the result
>Feels like I learned nothing
Well, shit

>>4051329
Great. He's adorable and all but he really has to stop telling me to eat cake and drink tea.

>>4051417
Dude. I'm laughing my fucking ass off right now. Just took a test out of curiosity and got this. I don't know if you saved my life or ruined it forever. I'm gonna do a few more of these before i decide to quit art forever.

>>4051491
Dude don't quit forever. Your skill looks good already. You could always go for lineart-only/ grayscale work

>>4051491
you can just color balance it later so its not that bad

>>4051491
I know colorblind artists and many create absolutely great art. Don't give up, anon. I know you probably can't tell the difference yourself, but although your result looks less saturated with different hues it's definitely pleasing to the eye. Let it define your artstyle instead, your values are great

>>4051496
Hey Mclelun and Erotibot are colorblind as well and they can do awesome stuff, no need to quit yet!
The path to art's one step harder for you but It means you'll be more accomplished than the rest in the end.
Besides you could always do b&w manga if you're insecure on your color capabilities later on.

I learnt a new work today - Deuteranopia. This test took a while, cause you had to order like 30 hues in order.

>>4051496
>>4051500
>>4051501
hahah, i'm finding this bloody hilarious, cause i used to shit on my friend for this

>>4051491
How did you go through your life without knowing this? Surely the color red must have come up at some point during your conversations.

>>4051491
>he's actually colorblind
Thanks anon, had a rough day and I needed this.

How ?

>>4051507
and last one, i've seen this test before i didn't do it. big mistake 16 year old me.

>>4051503
>Mclelun
>looked him up
>same nationality
>erotibot did hot shit high
stop giving be hope anon

>>4051508
>fuck, i hate the fucking french flag, just two rectangles, it so stupid
>what are you on anon? it's blue, white and red
>tf is red?
>you know, it symbolises blood or something
>blood? what the fuck are you on?
>i speed off in my car, run a moderately grey light and crash into a nondescript truck with a ladder on the top and a hose

>>4048048
hey uhhh ehhhhh uhhhh got any uhh source for that

>>4051598
Maou Toubatsusura Dekiru Ore Isekai Saikyou no Tobakushi ni Naru.
The original artist is Mmu.

>>4050673
who are you studying?

I'm having some trouble with the right hand/arm. I'm trying to show it at rest but can't seem to get the perspective/hand to correctly display it.

>>4051834
Ah shoot, it turned the image again.

>>4051508
Idk how it is for him but I've got protanopia and I can still see pure red (to the best I can verify from within my own head ofc). The issue is really that red gets lost when mixed into other colors or is surrounded by other colors.
This makes it kind of a subtler problem, eg red seeming to be an uncommon color, or confusing most shades of purple for blue.
In my case I didn't find out till I was like 23.

>>4051491
It sucks to have to work around this, but the way I deal with this is just using premade pallets and eyedropping colors for materials where I know there's gonna be some amount of red in it that I can't see.

>>4051834
yikes

are these heads tilted correctly also if someone have refs like this but anime that would be great

>>4052310
They both look pretty accurate but I think there might be some mistake with the bottom one that I’m not seeing

>study anime profusely
>can't draw exaggerated anime proportions anymore without feeling disgust

I've been fucking meme'd.

>study anatomy profusely
>can't draw exaggerated anime proportions anymore without feeling disgust

I've been fucking meme'd.

>>4048044
What are some of the best resources you got from this site? I wanna know the Nip way to coloring.

>>4052323
I just draw the proportions normally.

>>4052326
What you studied?

>>4052326
Thats step one. Now learn how to design appealing characters and exaggerate the anatomy you learned

>>4051411
Thanks a lot anon, i'll try loomis construction next time and some references for hands

Tried some anime today

>>4051434
that's what happens when you fall for the "just draw" meme. Try looking for the parts you have difficulty with and then fix whatever the problem is.

>>4051434
Did you use reference ?

>>4052503
Thanks. will do
>>4052528
Yes

>>4052494
kinda spooky

I wish I could understand what this artist's coloring process is, but I never catch them streaming because of time zone differences, and when they are they just doodle around and never color.

https://twitter.com/a_4_k_a

I'm sorry. I meant to do this earlier and fix this image.

>>4052494
This is subjective, but a brighter eye color changes the atmosphere of this piece.

>>4052615
If you want to shill yourself, post something half decent.

>>4052615
I love how this artist's trademarks are always 2 small teardrops and a drool on each of their works

>>4052710
Sometimes it's annoying but overall his work is good
>tfw he follows me

>>4052494
I would put the right eye (her left) more to the side, I bet you drew using Loomis and that's an issue I've encountered, it's very difficult to adapt the more stylized it is but it's crucial to achieve the vibe. While in a Loomis head there is one plane and only the nose sticking out of it, in an anime head the eyes are pushed inwards so lay on a different plane than nose and mouth, so it explains why her left eye would be more to the side. I've tried to figure this out but it's extremely difficult to Loomis a style like pic related. What is infuriating is that it seems to be solely muscle memory and no actual constructing from all the videos I've seen. Or you have to imagine the whole head in 3D and feel the landmarks.

>>4052729
The eye being drawn much more to the side than expected doesn't apply only to moe but every anime style I've seen btw, I'm sorry for being confusing.

>>4052494
eye socket too big, no expression -> creepy

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=9384520

Hair rendering tips

>>4052727
lel he follows me too

Greetings here. Im currently doing some fanart, along with some value, anatomy and posing practice here. I did a fanart of Woclass and I would like to know where I went wrong and what can I improve. Thanks in advance.


P.S the camera of my phone is kinda trash, feel free to ask for a repost.

Are there any collages or similar with a lot of different head positions, preferably with no/short hair? I'm trying to learn how to draw heads but I get stuck when the girl's hair is in the way.

>>4052866
The hands are a bit awkward, along with armpits and boobs too low. You should definitely try hatching instead of filling areas with the pencil like this. I feel like it would benefit you. In summary, it's really good

>>4051491
Holy shit this is like that movie little miss sunshine

What do people mean when a picture needs to have a story?

>>4052889
Thanks anon you've just saved a life. Ill try out some armpit studies for now.

>>4052866
the deltoid is too short which make the connection with the pectural muscles too high. thats why the armpit looks weird.a bit of the traps should be showing too.

>>4052872
Also it seriously is fucking me up that I'm supposed to start the skill with a horizontal oval then add the jaw, and not a vertical oval for the face then adding the back of the skull.

>>4051433
no
quit right now

>>4053105
>horizontal oval
But it's supposed to be a circle?

>>4052938
It just means if you add some context into the drawing, it's more visually interesting. Drawing a girl standing straight and smiling is boring compared to, say, drawing the same girl in the middle of an action. That also gets into unnatural posing, like a model photoshoot.

>>4052676
yikes

>>4052688
it's not my shit but ok, though i can't see why you'd think that looks bad.

>>4052727
>>4052849
i think it's an autofollow thing. not taking it personal though it seems the artist probably has more important shit to do

>>4054187
>i can't see why you'd think that looks bad.
It's time to go back to /beg/.

>>4054234
His other stuff is better, but it crosses the line of artistic and steps into infuriatingly pretentious to me.

>>4054234
Not him but his art is alright

>>4054187
yeah I thought so too. Seems like follow bots are a way to promote yourself to your mutuals' followers but they just feel so fake and shilled to me

>>4052494
I like the colors, blog?

>>4051491
tfw I'm officially diagnosed with red-green colorblindness and still ace that test.
I don't know what to believe anymore.

>watch and read Japanese drawing tutorials
>they all say the same thing: copy and trace and eventually you'll get good
>nobody ever mentions perspective or any other fundamental
Did /ic/ trick me?

>>4054661
The answer is, do both. Study realism and at the same time develop muscle memory for anime

>>4054491
Do the one anon took later:
>>4051507

>>4054661
Tracing doesn't teach you why they do what they do. Studying does.
To me, tracing is just a way to add more practice drawing, and being able to see the bigger picture while you lay your marks.

>>4054691
Ok definitely noticing something now. In red and green just as expected. Guess it's just not as severe as for the other anon.

>>4054661
>Did /ic/ trick me?
you thought /ic/ knew how to draw? /ic/ tricked itself including you

>>4054661
>listening to nips
that was your mistake.Did you know murata went to study in california for 4 years before he went back to japan ?

Can you fuckers stop posting this useless colorblind shit? No one cares.

>>4055139
No one care about you either yet here you are still breathing

>>4054661
>nobody ever mentions perspective or any other fundamental
but they do though
you just need to google the fundamental art terms, like you would with english because other wise you'll get garbage kids tutorials like Jazza. use google translate my nigga, or try to piece together moonrunes you know with the ones you need translation on etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Ecp5GKI54
I don't even draw and this makes me want to start.

>How to study anime/get better at imagination drawing/obtain a style/etc.:
>Find an anime reference you like (an illustration, screenshot, anime figure, 3D model, etc.)
>Find learning material that will help you reconstruct your ref using simpler fundamental elements
>Trace the ref using that construction
>Copy the ref using that construction
>Draw the ref from memory that using construction
>Repeat the process for the same ref multiple times and mix in other refs
>After studying a lot of refs, drawing from your head will become easier

Can anyone help me with this? I'm not entirely sure what any of these words mean. I'm ESL and also not very smart

>>4055689
> I'm ESL and also not very smart
Don't worry, at least you aren't colorblind like him >>4051491

>>4055564
To the other anon who shared this in the prev threads, thank you. So far this is the workflow I find comfortable doing. Before this, I'd do mindless studies then get burned out and not enough drawings from imagination.

>>4054661
What they really meant is
>Copy, trace and study the necessary fundies whenever you get stuck but you have to keep doing finished works from imagination to apply these fundies instead of mindlessly grinding them all day

>>4051108
Look at long-legged models.

>>4055841
>drawing from imagination
How do you even do that? I have no clue what to do if I'm not following an art book.

>>4055959
I'm not sure if I understand your question. Here's how I usually do
>Let's say I want to draw a cute animu in sailor clothes or medieval fashion
>I come up with a vague image/pose in mind
>do thumbnails and sketch on paper/pc
>"I don't fully know shit about medieval nor sailor clothing"
>go to pinterest or artbooks for inspo and reference
>refine sketch
>do lineart, coloring and render

additonal steps
>be sketching
>can't draw/visualize the pose well
>read anatomy books or google similar poses
>do a quick study of them
>go back to sketching
>repeat process if stuck again

>>4055959
Drawing from imagination is irrelevant until you have studied A LOT drawing from observation, so much so that the images of what you've been drawing is a part of your long term memory and subconscious.

A lot of begs preoccupy themselves with wanting to draw from imagination but thats kind of like wanting to skip to the endgame of being a virtuoso violinist who can recite difficult pieces perfectly from memory a few months after. That's one of the last skills you master. Kim Jung Gi himself said it took him 10 years to draw full figures from imagination in one of his demos.

However, once you get pretty good at drawing what you see without many flaws, then what you can do is practice drawing what you've just drawn FROM memory right after. Say you took some time to draw a hand. After you finish that drawing, try to draw it many times from your memory of it without looking at it. That's how you learn to draw from imagination.

>>4055689
I can't think of anything dumbed down more than Pin2D, look them up on YouTube

>>4055976
Very good advice, another anon said that practice should be solely drawing from photos or life, then you can try to draw from memory basing on what you've learned. Also, I've heard many very good artists say you should study only one thing at a time, so you don't draw torsos, then eyes and then practice perspective in one sitting. The approach seems great since I've finally found myself rapidly improving, I recommend Proko poses since there are like 200-300 photos in each series. I think they were uploaded in the artbook thread, also Super Pose Books from the yande.re list here:

http://rxih1q6u.droppages.com/

>>4055841
>>4055976
a caveat i'd add to this is even while you're still in the early learning phases of observational drawing you should still be doing a lot of applied imaginative drawing i.e; taking the things you study and then altering them to practice your creative & design skills. this could be as simple as trying to draw a study you did from a few different angles & experimenting with how different light/color passes convey different moods or it could be trying to redraw it in different styles that you like. the important part is to always put yourself into situations where you have to think critically and make choices instead of just passively copying what's in front of you.

>early 2000s anime style is coming back

I'm glad. All those fools who laughed at me drawing in the "aborted" classic style...now I have the last laugh.

>>4056142
where?

>>4055564
So what I'm getting from this is in order to git gud you have to:
>1. Find an illustration you want to draw/achieve
>2. Try to imitate the style as close as possible and create your own illustration (don't try to draw an exact copy of your source, just the atmosphere and feeling of the illustration)
>3. Complete the illustration, don't stop midway even if it's terrible
>4. Compare your drawing with the original source and think what needs to be done in order to achieve a result similar to your source.
>5. Repeat from step two ad infinitum until you achieve your goal

>>4056146
Remember the Lucky Star! craze of 2007-2008? Which spurred Haruhi and a few other shows? Well Maesetsu! will be the poison of 2020. All the kids this generation would get into it and a huge shift will occur once again. As with the change in choice of designs.

We revert back to 2001-2007.

>>4056151
Yay i cant wait for uguu faces to come back jesus fucking christ

>>4056148
Yeah. Don't forget the fundies

>>4056158
w-what kind of fundies?

>>4056171
Start with the ones you need for your next art

>>4056174
i don't know

>>4056180
Why are you pretending to be me?
>>4056174
Okidoki

>>4056174
Just to expand: if you want to draw gay bara, study anatomy and muscles
If you want to draw landscapes, study composition rendering etc
If you want to draw people in wacky angles, study anatomy and perspective
etc etc

>>4055976
>A lot of begs preoccupy themselves with wanting to draw from imagination but thats kind of like wanting to skip to the endgame
I guess that's a good way to put it. I'm a dumbdumb that wants to be good now and actually draw things but it'll be years until I get to that point.

>>4056185
start with what you can do at the moment. Set short-term and long-term goals so you can work towards something. For starters, what kinda animu do you want to draw?

>>4056151
>2007
>early 2000s
i thought you meant boogiepop or something ;_;

>>4056108
Fuck that index is awesome. I have always found the threads and forum really daunting to navigate

>>4052494
Hmmm... I know this, from where's it from?

>>4056187
I want to draw spidergirls. I'm only on page 33 of that "it's fun to sketch people!" book, so I'm not exaggerating when I say it'll be years.

>>4056239
>spidergirls
mein neger

>>4056239
are you the guy that likes rachnera in the drawthreads?

>>4056305
No. I only go to this thread.
Besides, I'm not a fan of driders (like Rachnera). I like the spidergirls that look like necromorphs.

Somewhat unrelated, for "it's fun to sketch people!" should I be drawing every single image in the book? It's what I did the first two days but now I seriously lost steam since it feels unfocused. Like it's not drawing for a specific purpose, to learn how to draw one thing.

hello ! im usually an anthro/kemono artist, but lately ive been drawing more kemonomimis !
do you guys think this is okay so far ? also id love to make anime drawfrens, if anyone is interested in adding me on discord @ panko#0009 <3

>>4056187
Not that guy but I would like to draw like Tetsuya Nomura (pic related) for starters. Then move on to others artists I like and combine them into my own style I guess. How should I proceed?

>>4051108
Draw a rectangle, put an horizontal line in the middle. Top part should fit the torso + head. Bottom part should be legs only. The middle line needs to be right in the pussy.
Work your proportions from there.

>>4056502
pyw so i can see what is your level

>>4056502
start with studtying amano, the superior designer for Square

>>4056557
This won't work very well on characters with larger heads, especially chibi.

>>4057459
>>4056917
>>4056965
Laugh all you want
I WILL make it, one way or another
>>4057496
Amano is actually another artist I look up though.
He's on a whole other level than Nomura when it comes to composition and color theory.

>>4051108
This sounds like a shitpost
but
get a fetish for delicious long legs and you'll just do it anyways, will solve the block in your brain anyways. also works for fears oddly enough

>>4057804
nice my bro. yeah, I'm really into colour mostly, so I love Amano. I got FFIV for the nintendo when I was a kid and the art got me into drawing and painting.
But yeah a real good start is studying their work, find out what makes them tick.
One thing I always notice about Nomura is his faces, he loves round shapes.
Oh and don't forget belts & zippers, kek. Good luck dude.

>>4058039
>But yeah a real good start is studying their work, find out what makes them tick.
Indeed and that is what I plan to do.
>Good luck dude.
Thanks, fren

I don't know why I can't get the curvature down on these hips+ribs. They just look like ballsacks.

What copic colors do you find most useful for anime art?

>>4058106
they look like reverse heart to me lol

>>4058176
Feelsbadman. Nigga I can't get the hand movement down for this.

>>4058189
don't worry so much, it get's better with practice. Or take a break and do a different study for now

>>4058193
Ideally I'd like to follow the book and draw each page one at a time but I think I'll have to skip this for now, yeah.

>>4051518
>i speed off in my car, run a moderately grey light and crash into a nondescript truck with a ladder on the top and a hose

I think i'll post my method of drawing the body / proportions soon

>>4052335

Tried practicing Granblue with the two on the left

>>4058737
did you drew a body under cag clothes?

>>4058745
There is a body under but yeah that clothes is really puffy so it's hard to make it out

>>4058750

>>4058758
Forgive me Loomis sama. Anyways thanks for the red line. Always appreciated.

>>4058737
I've noticed your clothes always looks overly wide. Maybe you should try some studies on more moderately sized skirts etc. and contemplate the issue.

>>4058750
a place to start might be making the neck of the skirt clearly hug closely to the skin.

another might be to try make the clothes suggest a thin body

>>4058737
Feet and hands stand out as a bit poor, they're really cute otherwise though. Keep it up anon

>>4058737
Complete noob question here. When you drew this, how big was your canvas and did you zoom in/out when drawing certain features?
I have a hope that my fingers would be a bit better if I zoomed in.

>>4059075
Different anon, try to do as much as possible while it's zoomed out. Zooming in is only for details when you're 100% sure of the placement. Canvas size doesn't matter much when it comes to sketching. Just keep the aspect ratio correct, resize before starting to render

>>4059075
I was zoomed out for everything. It was just a sketchy thing with really no detail. Canvas was decently big but it was just randomly so since it probably wouldn't matter for this except if it was way way too small.

>>4059108
>>4059114
How in the gosh darn do you draw fingers without zooming in? I feel like it's impossible to add the curves for fingertips.

>>4058106
Go watch Proko's pelvis videos or Gottfried Bammes books on the pelvis section. The form of the pelvis is very counter-intuitive, and these abstractions won't make a lick of sense until you actually understand the true form of the pelvis.

>>4059127
lol well I didn't really draw fingers as >>4059012
pointed out. Just things that barely resemble them. I would zoom in if I wanted to make them look decent

>>4058750
I think it's that you draw the base of the shirt very very wide.

>>4059134
Stop clapbacking. The perspective and shapes of hands and feet are poor, not the lack of detail. It's visible you aren't working with primitives looking at the middle one's legs and zooming in won't fix that, it's pointless to add more detail to a wrong shape.

>>4059127
It sounds very vague but simplify the fingers, don't draw each one separately but the gesture. It will be easy to construct them after zooming in afterwards

>>4059144
Not meant to be a clapback just saying if I ever wanted to really do hands I would zoom in. Not even saying I personally would do them good. They might come out as complete shit the point is I would want to zoom

>>4059154
I realized only after posting that it turned out way more hostile than in sounded back in my head, I sincerely apologize. I understand what you meant now

>>4059158
It's all good. Text does suck. It's probably making me sound like I'm disregarding criticism because "it's a sketch lol not the real deal". But nah a "real" drawing would just be less messy but still as flawed. I know I suck shit and I am listening to all these criticism

>>4059131
Thank you.

>>4051491
Didn't know this was a thing

Hello. I recently made a sketch for a comic book, but I can not write a normal text because I do not know English. Can give random phrase for replicas of the characters?

>>4058689
okey here it is

>>4058689
er, with less clutter this time

>>4058689
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>4059392
>circle for mouth
Interesting, I haven't seen anyone do this

>>4059392
trash

>>4059378
>A-ano, anon-kun?
>Pathetic, succumbing to your fetish again.
>Pick that dog bowl up and eat from the table like a normal human being.

>>4059419
Thank. I'll post the final version tomorrow

>>4059378
>OwO
>and
>what's this?!!!

>>4048398
>pixiv literally has a howto page
holy shit this changes everything

>>4051108
isn't this from feh

>>4059392
This is actually so dogshit lol. Please don’t spread this around.

>>4059392
Hey anon sorry you got negative comments. I don't think you deserve them and at least you're contributing.
Do you have any work you could show?

>>4060004

He’s contributing horrible “guides”. Infact that’s the exact opposite of a “contribution”.

>>4060009
What if he made better drawings than you with his method? Would you still call it "horrible"?

>>4060010
what if that anon is jesus? would you still whining?

>post your work

>>4059392
i wanna make it clear that i appreciate your effort in making the guide and sharing your knowledge. i'm really just making fun of this retard >>4060010

i don't know why i hang around these threads anymore... i just end up reading so much retarded shit. are you guys mostly underage? i don't mean to make such a negative post, but it's the only explanation i can come up with

but since i like being anon, there's nowhere else to go so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

think in 3d

>>4060166
gimme blog now

>>4060166
you defend the guy who made the guide, but you also make fun of an anon who defends that guide...?

>>4060173
What the fuck's going on with those thighs?

>>4060176
>but since i like being anon

>>4060184
i don't defend the guide. it's absolutely the product of not studying anatomy or fundamentals and taking shortcuts straight to hell. i said i appreciate the effort and his willingness to share his knowledge because it's better than 90% of you fuckers who don't even draw

>>4060166
nice art lol

>>4039372
Am I the only one who thought this is leaning more to the east?
Reminds me of Uno Ryuno oni tg eromanga and I love it.

Also, don't listen to the anti-loli normies.
2D Loli drawings are only illegal in a couple of states and some shithole countries.
And cancel-like opinions should be ignored.
Don't give a fuck what people say. they probably got abused as kids and hate themselves.

Luckly this isn't twitter/tumblr.

>stop drawing anime
>don't remember how to anime

Fell for the meme

>>4060190
>it's absolutely the product of not studying anatomy or fundamentals and taking shortcuts straight to hell
what the fuck do you mean you black nigger darkie all I did was study anatomy to do that shit, what do you want me to do, waste my time studying every individual muscle one by one in every conceivable direction? You don't even need to do that, I draw girls, they have smooth arms, and plus muscles can be grouped up into bunches. I swear it's like you want me to take a billion years through suffering darwinian evolution and natural selection till I get the perfect lifeform when higher levels of organization in drawing can be easily made through simple time spend in contemplation and observation. Once you see the image, you're good, that's all you need. I'm currently seeing legs because all i've been doing is drawing is just drawing legs all week. In fact why do I even need to show off how good I am at imagining things in a tutorial based on structural processes? Structure has nothing to do with what you can imagination, they're completely separate functions. Structure is a framework of proportions that you can build off of and move around easily. But if you're structures all fucked you won't be able to get an image and it wastes energy with redraws, which is why this is an important thing to know and why I did this shitty tutorial.

My gosh you fucking d/ic/klets are completely delusional. This is insanity, do you just want people to grind reference photos in stagnation mindlessly forever, will the suffering of us slaves appease you then?

>>4060293
pyw crab

>>4060293
i've tried doing your way okay? and I realized that wait a minute, I am learning nothing from this - in fact I learn nothing EVERY time I try doing it this way. And the only time I ever really did learn something was through mindful contemplation, and actually trying to figure out how it worked especially through the things that I know worked before because i'd done it before, not through mindless route grinding of anatomy.

This thread is fucking hilarious

>>4060293
this retard lmao, i surely will never need to learn the fumdies because those will just magically be in my head

>>4060293
looking back this could probs be taken the wrong way so for clarity; I'm actually for the studying all the general body parts, and studying them in every direction has been so fruitful for me I would argue it is essential for freedom in art. however not every individual section of muscle and part is useful to study; quite a few can be grouped together for simplicity. If you don't draw muscular characters (which I don't, I draw anime girls), then it is not important that you know every muscle, but rather that you know the noticeable general form of the collective muscles.

For example, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would study the shape of bones, you simply do not need to know what a bone looks like.

>>4060314
Yummy

>>4060166
lel that actually did help me tho, I might actually start using triangles for boobs

>>4060293
>>4060330
you really went off huh? i might understand how you feel if all you've been doing is studying anatomy, and i wrongly accuse you of not doing it. but i honestly couldn't tell that you put any effort into learning anatomy when you don't even attempt to abstract the ribcage (unless it's supposed to be that oval which is wider than it is tall). however, you made your point very clear on what you choose to omit learning and we all reap the fruits of our labor

>>4060342
well it's meant to be informative, hiza really does mean knee in japanese

>>4060345
you don't need those lines that represent the ribcage, you can get the ribs well enough with just the side lines. It is somewhat wip tho, admittedly chest / shoulders has been a weakpoint for me.

>>4060347
but if it is informative, then how is the guide bad?

Are anime-styled works generally more "flat" than western ones? I don't really know the terminology, but they seem to place shading over lines to represent volume. thoughts?

>>4060351
western cartoons are a million times more flat than anime

>>4060345
also my goal was not to show anatomy, but to show my process / basic structures for producing anatomy. If you want anatomy you look at a picture.

drew some anime...goodnight

>>4060348
>>4060356
good luck. i can't say my feelings on the guide have changed at all but i'm rooting for you. keep producing

>>4060350
actually, you've changed my mind. the guide is fantastic

>>4059392
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>4060432
so this is the power of guide...

>>4060330
>not wanting to draw fit girls
Why are you gay?

>>4060166
Gmi anon, pls giv unironic guide & beat these ngmis
I never git the eyes right

>>4060432
roomis

So why must I learn from fine artists when I just want to draw anime tiddies?

>>4060689
If you tackle realism you can add a hint of believability to the anime tiddies, making them extra tasteful

>>4060691
naruhodo

>>4060004
I've never been particularly good at poses so I've got nothing impressive to show.

heres a month old gesture study

oops

>>4060166
Why are you calling me a retard even though I was defending anon for contributing in the thread? And then you go ahead and say the same thing I said anyway?

Looks like people leaving nice comments about your studies and progress got to your head, anon. Might want to cool that off before calling others underage retards.

>>4060735
>>4060736
Cheers for sharing your process.

>>4060736
faces look western

>>4060432
holy shit... as expected of 「 T H E G U I D E 」

>>4060864
Anon please, calling each other retarded is half the fun around here
>What if he made better drawings than you with his method? Would you still call it “horrible”?
Is a pretty retarded/underage thing to say regardless of whom you’re defending. The whole point is that people who make good drawings can still spread horrible methods, so don’t conflate the two

>>4060683
Sorry anon I’m pretty retarded and I definitely cant make a good guide. That’s why I appreciate the other anon for even trying. If you post your work I’ll try to redline it for you though

>>4061161
I've been having problems with making my eyes feel anime, there's always a hint of western in them.
Feel free to redline which one of the three you see more problems with. Left girl's hand-hiding is very clearly hiding crimes but overall their eyes have been giving me trouble.
Also, accidental double collarbone on the middle girl.

>>4061171
Your work actually looks like my work from not too long ago. It’s a couple of small details and subtle perspective cues that you’re missing I think. I’ll see if I can show you what I mean when I get home in a couple of hours

>>4061171
i see you like bayonetta

>>4061194
She be lovely
And crap, I meant "right girl" not left girl. Lolita fashion girl's hand-hiding, not the gyaru expy. And middle girl doesn't have a double collarbone SHIET!!

>>4061171
Here’s a paintover for you to consider, anon. I’d also highly recommend researching into Japanese fashion more, as it’s one of the tell-tale signs that someone is more /beg/ or western. I have some tutorials that may be helpful to you if you want them. Also, I feel the rightmost girl is the most solid of the three.

>>4061221
Anon, that's really nice what you did there, it's lovely!
I'll research some fashion then, it's always the details essential to making something feel more japanese that I can't grasp.
Yeah if you'd like to share some resources I'd be very thankful!

>>4061221
the eye looks pretty western desu

>>4061221
Anon, how do you decide the tones for the shadows and highlights?
I am starting to get into painting and I also code.
So I am wondering if there is a way to calculate them.

>>4061230
I don’t draw anime too much so you’re probably right.
>>4061226
Looking on Pinterest can be useful for fashion references as people upload a lot of stuff on there. Looking up simple terms like lolita wardrobe, kogal gyaru, Japanese street fashion etc and digging through the related images helps me out a lot. Here’s various stuff I found:
https://imgur.com/gallery/R6vjAtY
>>4061249
I don’t really have a technical brain haha, I just choose whatever looks nice to me from past experience. I’d recommend studying art and finding common patterns with shading, looking at tutorials and applying your methods regularly to build your visual library.

>>4061257
Thank you very much anon!

Can someone help me out? I'm having issues drawing the 3/4 view and different angles.

>>4061171
ok here's the redline i promised. i tried to address the biggest problems that i can see in your case. i really like the gyaru actually but >>4061221 already did a cute paintover, so i focused on the other two. hope it helps

>>4061257
thanks for the gallery, i really like some of those images

>>4061356
it's pretty good anon. are you working from a reference?

>>4061356
YIKES!

>>4061356
You're going to have to be more specific than that about it.
Try to be more mindful when constructing the hips.

>>4061371
Thanks a lot, anon! I think I see what I've been doing wrong now, this is extremely useful knowledge for eye placement!

>>4061399
Nothing yikes about it. It's one of the most authentic anime looking things here despite the flaws

>>4058737 i will argue that, this >>4061407 would be the most accurate to the source despiste the long legs but >>4061356 is not only unfinished but already shows big flaws hip torso belly, neck delts holy shit it was more that what i thought at first, so yeah no

>>4061421
meant to post the first link as the second and vice versa

With Gmi-anon's eye advice I have managed to...
I mean it looks like somewhat closer to animu eyes. Not gonna reach a milestone in half an hour either, gmi-anon's advice is super useful and I'll keep it in mind from now on though but other than that, it's my duty to practice more.

>>4061403
So some issues i'm having is that I don't really know if i'm constructing the ribcage properly. With the box form thing i can figure out the angle but at the shape at the bottom right looks off and I'm not sure where the ribcage ends. Also、I don't know how wide any body parts are in heads. Like is the right side of the ribcage supposed to be further? Does the arm start further to the right?

After drawing the head I'm not sure if i'm supposed to take proportion from the top including the hair or like a little lower.

I don't really get the neck to clavicles and the shape of the deltoids. Like where does the neck start curving into the shoulders.

Also is the left side of the image supposed to be closer towards the line of symmetry?

I keep having to redraw the 3/4 angle because I don't know what i'm doing wrong or right and it takes me forever.

I'd really appreciate a redline if anyone is willing.

>>4061421
Can you be more specific about the flaws or how to fix them. I know it looks off but I don't really know what to do really.

>>4061464
did you do this with reference or just from imagination? i put it through the hitokaku machine for proportions

>>4061591
I did it by imagination, I didn't know hitokaku had something like that. Also thanks alot.

>>4061404
>>4061449
>>4061596
i was wrong about this place, people do draw >>4058916

>>4059392
>>4060432
circle method doesn't work, too hard to draw it from an angle

gonna replace it with a chest shape

>>4061591
>>4061596
i'm retarded and took you literally about the machine but yeah thanks again

>>4061611
but what is a chest shape if not for the circle method?

>>4061611
the method works for him so who are you to judge?

>>4061681
Pretty sure it's himself.

>>4061681
i'm the same guy. Circle doesn't work because it's too hard to slant at the right angle.

and honestly i've always been pretty bad at the body. Not for lack of reference, but from my very limited method of drawing it.

>>4061171
just to add to anon's advice on researching jap fashion, I shared a bunch of links on the prev threads, I hope you don't mind if I repost it again

asian fashion blogs
https://www.instagram.com/uniqlo_with/
https://www.instagram.com/officialkoreanfashion/
https://store.world.co.jp/s/brand/index/
http://www.honeys-onlineshop.com/shop/default.aspx
https://www.jadore-jun.jp/products/list.php?brand_id=10200&from=header

I also recommend aesthetic/photography blogs, they give me ideas on their casual outfits and also composition ideas
https://www.instagram.com/good_portraits_world/

>>4061591
This was very helpful thanks! Really enjoy seeing the process broken down thoroughly.

>>4051121
No their not? Their based on heroic proportions that has the character between 7 1/2 to 10 heads tall. You would know that if you actually studied your fundamentals. Also fashion models are something ridiculous like 12-13 heads tall

>>4062051
There is no depth to it, Japanese find long legs desirable and beautiful.

>>4062079
This is why you'll never progress, because you think things just are. Not understanding there are causes and effects that people have studied to get the desired results in their work. These threads will never not be a gold mine of watching the blind lead the blind into traffic.

>>4062132
I've likely been aware of what heroic proportions are before you picked up the pencil for the first time you fucking retard. Finding 8-9 heads figures attractive is the reason for this term to even exist. No difference if you choose to call it sodium chloride or kitchen salt, stop projecting crab.

>>4062132
>I've likely been aware of what heroic proportions are before you picked up the pencil for the first time you fucking retard.
Sure you have.

>>4062192
Heroic proportions are Christopher Hart level knowledge.

I like redline anon

>>4062132
get a trip so i can block you.

>>4062313
You sound upset.

>>4062313
seething!

>>4062316
It wasn't even a good bait but still strongly effective after being fed up with the shit going on in this thread.

Tonight's sketch

New Thread:
>>4063921
>>4063921
>>4063921

>>4059419
I promised a bit before, but uploaded only now. Thanks again for the text. By the way I need to put here your drawings or is it better to look for another thread?