/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Posting this here in Draw because some folks over on /alt are having a pissing match.

Roughing out designs. Which ones are keepers, which ones are duds, and which need just a touch up?

>>4041197
Depends on what the designs are for.
Horn girl is cool, fox girl is cool and bottom right is nice (personal preference). If you are designing a character however, it is best to keep head positions roughly the same, so people can see the concepts clearly.
If it is for portraiture, then it is different and not as important except for proportion and composition, but it is a bonus to add good design.
I would recommend you to do some studies and make faces with realistic proportions in different angles(no stylization), so you get a better idea of the facial features and so stylization can be easier in the future.

>>4041190
Painterly jedi. Shoulders look weird and loafish?

Pyw

I've been looking at this for far too long, I don't know anymore.

>>4041219
They are for a gacha/hero collector game concept.

I'll start doing more portraits tomorrow morning, using Quickposes. I want to build up towards a tribute to the cast of the original Star Wars trilogy.

Here's my pen and ink drawing of an old man.

I'd like some feedback on the rendering and whether I got the headshape right

>>4041751
/beg/

>>4041190
I’m working on this atm

I'd draw her naked if I had the proper context and...y'know...were a pansy.

>>4041658
weebshit sameface, but it seems you GMI

>>4041756
resize your shit anon

Didn't know which general to post in because I mostly lurk instead of posting, but here's what I'm working on right now. Had some problems with the arms in the pose because I kinda suck with proportions and perspective in any pose that isn't super basic, but here.

definitely need help with this

Finished this yesterday.

>>4042254

And a quick shading test with markers. Think it works, so I'll probably to a full render later this week.

>>4042254
>>4042256
very nice traditional technique. Have you ever tried to do a tonal drawing with col-erase or graphite on tracing paper? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCXi-9odlU

>>4041299
everything has the same floaty amount of edge contrast, add some hard edges to the focus point my man

values are good enough for me

>>4041580
thumbnail looks better than the full size

maybe don't stage it so symmetrically with two virtually identical trees on each side

add some more variety to the tree top shapes on the BG

i like the reflected light on the shadow being the focus, but i think that if you can see the shadows so clearly the light family (BG) should be more washed out and bright

Anon from other thread said I should study Rembrandt in order to better understand Ruan Jia. Can someone clarify?

>>4041197
It's hard to tell because of all the construction lines
>>4042256
So nice!!

I love OP image.
Here's my newest illo of flight attendants at work.

>>4042289

I honestly don't like rendering with pencil very much. I use Col-erases a lot for sketching and graphite for linework occasionally, but not shading or rendering.

I think I prefer inks for tone because I don't have to worry about them smudging. I'm not a very... careful artist.

>>4042306
that's some good eye for design, i could see that as magazine illustration

>>4042306
>So nice!!

Thank you, anon. I like yours too. Do you do magazine illustration?

i know its a typical anime style. i haven't tried to pick up a pen in a while. i just want some sort of feedback other wise ill never improve.
cheers.

>>4042322
Fair enough. I think I'm still a bit intimidated by ink techniques, and I like freedom of working both additive and subtractive with graphite. Btw the channel I liked has also a video where he does a tonal piece in markers, it's pretty great stuff.

>>4042324
>>4042329
Aww I always get similar comments... No, sadly I haven't done any magazine illustration, I really hope to get into it one day.

Cat sketches again

>>4042443
These are so good!

>>4042356
>>>/beg/

>>4042449
Cheers! I just watch videos of cats and draw them, it's a nice comfy way to warm up before working on commissions.

>>4040660
>>4039741
>>4040693
Thanks guys!

>>4040713
I'm still trying to find my own kinda style.. I usually use the lines when i cant get objects to read clearly without destroying the value structure.

Here's another for the same set

>>4042443
soul

Leaving something I'm trying as of late, for C&C. I'm doing backdrops by looking at reference then trying to put a character or something inside from imagination. Needs clean up.

>>4041197>>4041658
I like the second row from the top, middle one, but I have bias for smiles. The one with the big ears I guess has the most interesting silhouette but it also reminds me of Final fantasy stuff. The smiling one also has a nice one, visual interest.
Which one you should choose depends on mood and all that, what's the goal for the character.

>>4041219
Maybe I'm missing something here but it looks great! except for the feet. They look out really of place, like done by someone else.

>>4041580
The angle of view feels flat (like using telescopic lenses), the hut repetition is too obvious, try and break those up. Values don't look bad, you could try to add more breakage in the lighting but that's one of the things I struggle myself.

>>4042254>>4042256
Maybe on your interior details use more massing of textures, transitions, less on the light side, more on the dark side then go pure black shapes. And thinner lines for those details, but it looks really good. I really want to see the finished one.

>>4042306
I keep seeing your stuff and is really professional.

>>4042443
I really like them, really nice gestures, and look really solid, nice play of sharp and soft lines.
Many look like negative/neutral emotions but I guess that's the personality you are going for.
The annoyed ones at the top you could try to push the eyelids closer or the frown, or mark the cheek, overlap with the lower lids.

>>4042534
>>4042443
Thanks a lot! I think I usually just draw cats being annoyed/neutral because I like pissed off cats aesthetics. I'm not sure why, but I don't often draw them actually being particularly angry. Perhaps I will tomorrow! Not sure what you mean by "mark the cheek", though

Couple from the old thread if you would like to have a look at them too
>>4035733
>>4031563

>>4042583
This mostly, I don't know cat anatomy but I think is the levator muscles? But mostly when the mouth opens the muscles around the nose and muzzle go up, so they overlap the bottom eyelid, or push out. So you can mark those lines. More so if you are looking from below. Or just touch up the eyes for more punch.
They look good also those past ones, some better than others but is nice see you playing with the gestures.

>>4042729
Oh wow thanks for pointing that out! I didn't know they acted like that when the muzzle goes up. It's forever going to be in my memory along with that gif now, haha.

Some are certainly more inspired compared to other ones, but they are a good way for me to loosen up when waking up. One thing I really would like to pay attention to more is composing them all on my sketch page better, although it's been pretty difficult to focus on that.

>>4041580
nix, go back to your fundies for the love of all cute brazil girls

>>4042977
S-sure, anon senpai. And stop doxxing me.

>>4042297
Well, admittedly that's just my opinion.

What are you trying to learn from studying Ruan Jia?

>>4042977
I-if you're pirate, please come back. Daddy misses you.

>>4042220
this was rather quick so im sorry that i couldnt replicate your brushwork and what not, but ill go over some quick edits i think it needed (its a really cool idea btw).

The first thing i did was edit the background to be focused in a bit more so the composition led closer to the panther's face. i also added little bits to sort of imply that it might be foliage, to give more story (this was done a bit lazily so use your imagination).

then i went to work on the panthers face. it was a bit derpy but nothing that couldnt be saved. the biggest problem was his sort of simpsons lip, where his muzzle didnt protrude, but ramped downward. i also lowered the eyes and pulled the far end of his muzzle back in since it went too wide. to give the face a bit more detail i added lines to show where his face would wrinkle, given that hes probably pissed.

for small edits, i lost some edges around his tail and belly (i went hard around the tail area but that was personal preference, its up to you), i added some rim lights, and i put a ground plane under the dudes butt, sort of. your lighting scheme here was sort of hard to identify so im sorry if i messed that up, i didnt exactly know what was going on.

hope this quick thing helps at all, cheers.

Why do i get disinterested the next day after starting something...

>>4043381
... is this Triss? It reminds me of her, looks good so far anyway

>>4043381
Looks Mullins-esque so far.

Keep going!

been coloring a sketch i've done a while back, trying a new coloring technique

>>4043414
Looks good so far anon

>>4043384
It is wow awesome guess. Ty anon

>>4043388
I will anon ty love you

>>4043456
shading on the pants is really weird because it lines up with the red line and looks flat, and I think the legs are a little long. however, the face is great and this is well on its way.

i finally decided to get into watercolors again and discovered how to "desaturate" things I believe. I have little to no idea as to how to paint with watercolors, any guidance? I used the solid type and a brushpen.

>>4043530
Watercolor does best in multiple layers and you need to do a little planning before you start. As a beginner you should draw out what you're doing before laying down paint. Even pros like James Gurney do this. The contrast you have on the eyes is pretty good but you put too much color down. I suggest you stick to the solid pan colors alone and save the brush pens for traveling. It's hard to control the amount of flow from those pens.

Mind of Watercolor on youtube has good videos for beginners. This video is a good example of using layers to build up your image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyJH8pAm2aI

>>4042293
Thanks. I’ll sharpen the edges on the face. :)

>>4043381
update-a-rino

>>4043885
Nice, I always love seeing your stuff. I think her pose is a bit stiff though

Don't have any major works, but I did these.

>>4043924
Your gesture is amazing, I'd love to be able to sketch as freely as you do- gonna keep practicing

>>4043885

Sorry if this is a wrong thread but I need your help with this >>>/wsr/697724. (I'm from /g/, that's for my program). It shouldn't take a lot of time and it would mean a lot to me. Thanks.

>>4044158
>>>/ic/beg

did this earlier

>>4044214
damn thats depressing

>>4043944
thanks anon, a lot of it comes from drawing in public and using ink as means of improving line confidence.

>>4044221
Damn that’s good

>>4044242
hey thanks

>>4044332
will mods ever ban her?

>>4044336
What ye reckin fer?

>>4044332
damn that rendering on those legs though

>>4044593
They were really rushed haha

>>4043906
Really? Thank you.

It is a bit stiff, isn't it? I just couldn't think of an interesting pose to go with.

>>4044077
Feelsbadman.

>>4043885
>>4044625

i actually think the stiffness tells a great story. it makes her feel a bit staggered, like she saw something or heard something so awful it made her freeze, and shes on the verge of fainting or something.

blog?

Still plucking away at this, getting close to having most stuff rendered out

Current WIP that I'm farting around on instead of doing my client work.

>>4044729
Amazing stuff, man. Do you draw every leaf by hand, or do you use special brushes or copy/pase and such?

>>4044746
You should work on your boob drawing skills.

>>4044779
Different anon- I kinda like the boobs, they look soft and squishy

>>4044776
Thanks mate, most leaves are by hand but in the end I supplement a tiny bit with a leaf brush

Is the composition good?

>>4044746
boobs look like they are floating.

>>4044779
>>4044836

Hard to believe, but boobs mid stride bounce. Crazy i know

>>4044729
We're you the guy who did that shrine thing a couple months ago? Do you have blog?

>>4044818
those colors are delicious

>>4044838
Yeah I got the sensation that they were bouncing too, I really like them dunno what everyone’s fussing about

>>4044846
I think I know which one you mean, I'm ExitMothership on dA

>>4044818
It gives me a feel to it. Nostalgic somehow. Yeah composition is good for a square canvas with a centered object.

>>4042256

Did a quick/rough gouache painting based on a photo I found on tumblr. The original photo is very confusing in the density of urban concrete, so the painting is too. Nothing I'm particularly proud of but it's been a learning experience.

>>4044818
I like the mood, in terms of the composition I'd make the frame wider and add a few more trees near the foreground to help lead the eye to the bird. I'd also push the lighting a bit more, it can help sell the mood and your focal point (the bird) could get even more attention. Quick mock up of what I mean, went a little overboard with the light but just trying to illustrate my point. As a square composition tho I think it works as is.

>>4045591
noice, I like it. Props for doing traditional.

I was playing around with my coloured pencils cause I realised it’s been a while since I used them, also this might sound tacky and cheap- but I noticed that a concept becomes 10x more interesting to me if I make it steampunk haha

>>4045753
Not trying to be rude here. Abstain from colors for now. Work on your fundies.

>>4045867
Fair enough :’) I have been sketching a lot more often though, this is just for fun

>>4045631
Thanks, I really like what you did. But yeah, it's supposed to be a square. Maybe I'll try adding some of this stuff, like the light rays, and see if it works.

>>4045388
>>4044850
Thanks!

>>4044746
how do you find clients, and what does the current one want from you?

>>4041190
Does /ic/ have a commission sheet? it's not full pornography I want

>>4044779
she is flexing them dumbass

>>4044729
is the tangent of that middle tree branch with the waterfall intentional?
it's the only thing I am looking at.
Like, Idk much about this stuff but the effect it has on me, personally is like.
I see that part, and my eyes just stop there. Literaly time freeze. Can't move.
Same with the bottom branch.

im lost after the block in phase, is there any videos that shows how it's done? i can't find shit on youtube only anime and cartoon stuff, i have never blended just been using flat colors so far.
is everything done in one layer? can i get this done in sai?
please help

>>4045980

>>4045980

The block in phase is better than the finished product in these examples. The artist overrender with too much noodly detail.

>>4045980
>>>/sqt/
>>>/beg/

You soften the edges between the blocks of color where they should be soft, leave them hard where they should be hard, correct them where they need to be corrected, draw smaller blocks, rendering the picture more accurately.

>>4046027
This is either bait, or you're an idiot.

>>4045980
Assuming you've got a tablet, set your brush's opacity or flow to pen pressure. Color pick from one of the flat colors, brush lightly over the color you want to blend it with. It will produce an intermediate color between the two. Color pick that color and paint between the two. Color pick the resulting mixed colors, rinse and repeat until it's blended to your liking. Keep in mind though that sometimes mixing together two tones, for example a shadow tone and a light tone, can produce a washed-out muddy color, while you may some times want a more saturated version of that in-between tone. Either pick the color from the color wheel, or blend the two colors, pick the mixed color and adjust its saturation in the color wheel.

>>4046117
like this? i dont know if i have to tweak the brush options im just using the default ones, is this supposed to be done in one layer?

>>4046155
Yeah, something like that. You tweak the brush options to your liking to get the results you want some people only use pressure with opacity, others use flow. Some use custom textured brushes while others only use the default round one.
Usually blending is done in one layer, unless you're experimenting something you might want to delete later if you don't like it.

>>4046550
Good job with the perspective on the big guy’s face

alrighty im bored with this on to the next one

>>4044818

>>4046687
>>4044818

>>4046691
>>4044818
Your uses centre focal point which is fine due to your framing. But since I made the canvas wider in order to make the scene a little more cinematic, I used rule of thirds instead.

>>4044818
>>4046695
So this is the final little explanation. I just wanted to try my hand at composition in order to tell a better story and make the scene more interesting. Not to downplay your piece, I didn't know exactly what it was about but I played around with the same theme. I just thought about what this big rock is. It attracts a fine light source to it, and birds sit perched to it. I gave it a happy mood with groups of birds and leaves shining in the light over it. It adds detail in the area as well as contrast. It tells us a little story, while leaving questions. It gives us a sense of mystery. I hope this helps.

>>4046576
Sad cause I really liked it

How many brushes do you guys use in your paintings, excluding those that you use solely to blend? How heavily do you rely on textures/imperfections in your strokes? I'm a complete beginner to digital painting so I just want to know how many brushes I should alternate between while I block in colors, for the sake of variety. Right now I'm just using a hard rectangle brush and one that looks like an oil brush.

Also, if you have experience with PS and CSP, which do you find better suited to painting? I've heard a lot of anons say PS has a better brush engine, but I also hear the opposite sometimes.

>>4047089
I generally use only one for painting, be it the hard round or a hard textured brush.

Never used CSP, but I know for a fact that Krita and Painter have better brush engines than both.

Hi there, we're two generic bad asses!


Great work anons, I'm loving a lot of stuff in this thread! :D

>>4045913
Oh, no that one is not intentional, I'll try to fix that. Good catch. As for the branches: I planned to put some tropical birds there to justify the viewer looking there but then also integrate same birds in the background to draw a connection and have the viewer looking elsewhere too. Still juggling with the elements in this artwork right now, though

hi i'm struggling to make skin look realistic, any tips? also any brush recommendations? am i taking the wrong approach here?

>>4047354
I think you're on the right track, you've set up a basic palette and have every thing you need to render out the form. To take it further you could just color pick and blend by going around the form. After blending the colors and values ought to look more uniform, from there you could push the form further by adding a highlight down the middle to show that it's a cylindrical form and restate the shadow. Pic related is a quick example. I just color picked, blended around the form and added some highlights + form shadows to accent it. Used a round brush at first, making sure I varied the opacity as needed and also a soft round brush. Hope that was somewhat helpful.

been painting more wildlife stuff

>>4047407
i think what doesnt help is that im relatively new to digital (although the reason im not posting in beg is that ive adapted from trad painting so its not a huuuge stretch) but i keep switching programs, i was using firealpaca at first before i heard about krita, and today i downloaded photoshop and im gonna give that a go. thank you so much for blending it a little, thats a useful reference for me, also the fact that you included which brushes you used makes you an S-tier poster. how do i then make it look realistic and not too "blurry"? i get the feeling that any non-blurry stuff i add just looks out of place once everything else has been smoothed. also is pic related any good (left buttcheek) or have i just made the same mistakes but smaller?

>>4047430
You're blending seems okay but it looks like your brush size is a little on the small side. It could help if you started out with a bigger brush, blended a little and then refined with a smaller brush. Also I think playing with the opacity of your brush can be super helpful, since you already have a base you can work on top of that and further define the forms. Maybe even glaze a bit of the lighter color over the butt with a low opacity soft brush to unify everything a bit. It's a little like glazing and layering in traditional. And about the blurry vs non-blurry thing, that's a matter of knowing where the form is turning away from the light, where it overlaps and where it's round. For the butt cheek itself you could paint quite softly but then you can contrast by adding a harder edge and cast shadow where the cheek overlaps with the leg. In my example the hardest/least blurry part was where the cheek meets the leg because that is probably where the there would be the least amount of light. Then there's the center of the cheek where the form turns away from the light, it's a round form so I made the transition softer but I tried to make the separation of dark to light apparent. Essentially just keep the round areas soft/blurry but add harder more sharp areas where form is turning away or where there are creases or shadows. Adding the highlight down the middle of the leg and distinguishing between dark/light does a lot of the work for you. A lot of this stuff is intuitive so I'm sure you'll pick up on it once you practice some more with digital, it could also be helpful to try painting some basic forms like spheres and cylinders so you can get a handle on how digital works. You seem to be on the right track. Anyways this is kinda long so I'll stop now.

>>4047331
Ohh nice and classic

>>4047331
Been mucking around on the sega emulator these past few days.

>>4047465
Thanks anon!

>>4041756
Reminds me of the older Cranium game characters

>>4042306
Do you illustrate for the New Yorker?

>>4047782
I wish ;-;

Right column done.

>>4047860
Vedy nice wah whoa wee wah

>>4047428
Nice, anon. Add some highlight/detail for texture and this will be a really lovely piece.

>>4046687
>>4046691
>>4046695
>>4046712
Ultra helpful anon is ultra helpful. Saved your tips.

>>4047860
needs more loomis on some heads desu

Continuing to explore an anime inspired aesthetic.

>>4047992
Which ones?

>>4048072

>>4047428
>>4044221
Might wanna put another layer of gesso and sand a bit before painting, unless you like the canvas checkered like that

>>4048088
its very small this is on an 8x10 so its just to be expected unfortunately. its just the result of looking at a small canvas so close up

>>4047977
thank you

trying to do studies of Leyendecker's style. did them in pencil then tried to color them digitally. i don't really fuck around with color much, so dont think they quite captured that cool painterly energy his work has.

>>4048086
Thanks for the help, man.

Figuring out how to redesign the last two.

>>4044872
I get the impression anons just like to arbitrarily point out flaws even when there aren't really any.

Looking for some honest critique. The image is cropped, so don't worry about composition so much. I can already tell that hand is pretty wonky. What else do you see?

>>4048094
I paint 6x8 and it’s not that much more effort. I love how the paint just glides more but that might be my preference since I also like painting on primed wood panel.

>>4048331
In terms of design the character looks bland. for example: I would add more hair running down its back and some on its forearm. That would add some repeating patterns, adding interest to the character. The horns themselves also don't stand out as much as they mirror the arms in both shape and angle. So change the shapes on them (big changes, either even bigger and thicker or much smaller). Look at goat horns, how they curve backwards and then out again.
Great rendering though, like the anatomy on that thing.

>>4048363
Thanks, I agree. the horns and arms form an awkward shape.
The additional hair is also a good idea.

>>4048331
I fucking love this, I wish the colors of the sky and trees were inverted

>>4048331

>>4045980
Don't you have a favorite artist or something? Someone you want to imitate? They probably have a video tutorial.
There are many different ways to render, it can be done in one layer, it can be done with lot of layers, filters and tricks in general, some people do a black and white layer and then apply color on top of it. Most artists use many layers and flatten these layers into one many times during the process of dozens of hours.

How well do you know basic fundamentals of art? Do you know about values and all that?

I could recommend some process videos I know, but they may be too cartoony for your tastes

>>4048374
I think your edit looks a bit over designed. I like the unevenness of the horns though. I bare skin looks more disturbing

Still working on this

>>4048331
this is really cool - looks like a much better rendition of this <<<beg-tier garbage>>> i drew a couple weeks ago

my current WIP, i plan to change the colors around once ive finished all the shading stuff

>>4048331
holy shit, blog?

>>4048414
Huh, yeah that's basically the same idea. I like yours though, the fact that it's grabbing the corpse like that makes it more menacing like it's playing with its food. and The pose makes it look surprised like it could go for you next. It's the same situation in mine but a few seconds after the creature figured out it's being watched.

painted a house

anons i need serious help with the composition and background. what should i do before i start polishing???

>>4047354
Your main problem right now is how you place your brushstrokes. The more you can convey of the form with least amount of strokes the better.
Getting the "light" right, which consists of form and value is the most important part to get the skin looking realistic, and then comes texture and color.

Your blotchy horizontal strokes not only don't convey form, but they give a gross scaly texture to her skin.

Are you trying to figure out how to blend?.

>>4048443
Add some faded tables to the bg

been poking at it since January

>>4047407 >>4047462
Anon, let >>4047430
do his thing. He's barely started lol

>>4048003
Hory shet!

>>4048419
this is pretty cool dude, i would say the pink streaks in the clouds could use more blending like you did with the streaks in the grass.

>>4048443
you need a lot more help than just the composition and bg lol. the anatomy is really shoddy but oh well, its kind of late to correct that. youre biggest problem is that the perspective is all over the place and the table doesnt make any fucking sense. how is one person laying on it with arms folded, and the others are above chest height, yet you can see ALL their faces?

>>4048443
>>4048495

>>4048495
ur right anon about the perspective. my biggest regret was not planning this well, i might seperate it into 3 individual pieces. I suppose i should've done it pic related? also can you elaborate on the anatomy? this is still largely a wip after all.

>>4048512
lmao anon ur too mean!

>>4048517
The facial anatomy is alright but it seems to me the guy on the rights face is small and distorted in comparison to his hair and shouders. again the perspective doesnt make sense, hi face is pointed one way but the top of his head and his chest are pointed another

>>4048527

First attempt at armors and knights and such.

>>4048527
Ty anon for the tips. im thinking about redrawing it, i might've wasted a day but you're learning smth new every time

>>4048725

>>4048731
Why is arthas wielding a butt plug

I don't really know.

>>4048495
>blend the clouds
I can’t I’m too dumb and it’s dry now fuck

>>4048088
Not that Anon but I just started painting on some smol canvas and it's texture is a bit annoying, I'm gonna do this with next one, thanks for the idea bro

did more to these two. I feel like the initial approach is very un-brian-like, so adding meme strokes on top of it actually livens it up a bit

>>4048979

When you guys paint do you lay down local colors first and then paint over them with the colors that would result from the light and shadow? Or do you try to estimate what the final color would look like from the get-go?

>>4049019
Not unusual to do a sketched painting with the colours you want to estimate how the final will look like. You will make changes though.
I tend to keep in mind of atmospheric light first and how that would affect the local colour. I also like to add complimentary colours to my shadows. i.e Saturated yellow light, desaturated Purple Shadow or Vice versa

Here are some thumbnail paintings I tried to do. I almost exclusively used a soft brush in the first one because I like softer edges, but it made it look kinda unfocused
Mainly did these to get better at picking colors off the wheel. Ultimately my goal is to be able to render highly-detailed characters with big boobies but I think first I should understand what makes a pretty picture. I'd appreciate any crtitiques

>>4049276
Try to use more edge variety.

working on this pic of my lovely SO atm. face from reference, body from memory

>>4049342
>>>/beg/
And nobody needs your blog, faggot, just post your art and ask for advice.

>>4049357
lol, fuck off.

>>4049342
>>>/ic//beg/

You don't understand shit about anatomy nor form, come back after summer is over with a better stand on those fronts.

Also, no one cares, get good and shut up.

>>4049374
>incels

don't /beg/ me, you asshole.

>>4049381
You’re /beg/ tho

>>4049381
I mean, you are a /beg/.

>Incels

If you don't like it here go to Reddit, there they'll be sure to inflate your ego even further, seems that's what you're aiming for desu.

>>4049342
>>4049381
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>>4049357
>>4049374

sorry anon but they're right.

>>4041658
Your downwards 3 quarter view has issues. Upper right and 3rd row down center could be a lot better. I don't know what's going on with 2nd row left either. Bottom left is questionable. Good views down the center row except for the third one down, though. I know this is practice but you should work on the ones I pointed out.

>>4049382
nahh
>>4049421
nahh

people (HERE) often compliment my shit.
i am, however, /beg/ on photoshop.

>>4049387
/beg/ compared to the people who actually post on /beg/?

>>4049427
shit drawer here. Anon stop complaining and go back to /beg/

compliments are simply compliments, it doesn't mean your art is gud. You have to improve both traditionally and digitally to the point where if you post on /beg/ The admins will complain that you don't belong there anymore. That's when you know that you've leveled up.

>>4049427
>being this far in denial.

Your average 14 year old artsy kid is around as good as you. The sooner you admit this, the sooner you can actually improve. Including picture just in case you want to hit me with the "POST YOUR ART THEN FAG"

I know what i'm talking about, as do a good amount of the users here. People may compliment you but that doesn't mean you're good enough for actual criticism yet. You're still at the point where you should be studying basics of anatomy, values, sketching, etc. I get the feeling this might be trolling but i'm saying this just in case it's not, you're only holding yourself back by acting like that. To improve you have to first admit your flaws and skill level.

>>4049436
Also, being bad at digital isn't an excuse for a lot of the mistakes you made there. Digital is just a medium, things like understanding anatomy should carry over even if your technique is shit on it. They didn't in your case, so I must conclude you're just not very good yet.

I include yet because this is a place of learning. Stop being a cocky shit and go hit up the /beg/ threads that may actually benefit you.

>>4049441
you're not helping in the slightest. you're maybe 1% better than me..

>>4049452
yeah it's a fucking troll

>>4049453
you guys are the fucking trolls. i'm not pro and i'm not beg. just meh. and you can't fucking handle it

>>4049457
yaaas queen

I'd love some crits on this before I go any further
mostly blocking in lighting
desu I have no idea how to draw rocks and it's pissing me off

>>4049502
Look at pictures of rocks. why make it from memory?
Also, define planes for the rocks. I can see from the silhouettes that they plane changes and bevels, but they're being shaded like smooth round pebbles

messing about, as always.

>>4049502
>>4049506
Thank you, friend.
Still struggling a bit with the lighting since it's hard to find rock references w/ this sort of lighting but there's definitely some progress

>>4041190
Can I get some feedback on this

>>4049757
Only thing I can think of is there should be stronger highlights from the glowing sword on the rest of the figure, and the dripping blood
should maybe have less viscosity to it, besides that, I really love the composition and use of values in this, good work!

(Apologies for my own work, I haven't really done face studies before)

>>4049778
aaand i uploaded it in a way too high resolution, fuck

>>4049507
perspective is nice, i'd work more on line width variation to give further depth to your figures

This is a finished drawing i did of my brothers dragonborn, some honest critique would be much appreciated.

>>4049813
Looks extremely thick/proportionally short for a lizard. Is he half dwarf or something?

>>4049817
No, he's supposed be a barbarian dragonborn but I see what you mean about him being short. Should I slim him down when I make him taller?

>>4049821
It's up to you, he could just be a /fit/ manlet as part of his lore but if you want, but such a stocky frame is unusual for a reptile race I'd think.
Another thing, I don't know much about digitigrade legs but the lower third portion should probably be more vertical. It would make him look taller too.

>>4049825
I see what you mean, Ill go back and re-proportion the legs. Thanks for the input!

>>4048512
Underrated post. Thanks for the laugh, anon.

Can I get some feedback on this?

>>4049893
It's a good start. I like the drawing and composition. There are too many dark values though. You could be more selective with your darks and keep your darkest blacks for the focal areas. Maybe add white too in some areas.

>>4049778
Here it's the opposite. The values are too light. The white background is affecting your perception of values. Test it with a grey one and you'll probably see what I mean. The perspective of the mouth isn't quite right and it's slightly too low but otherwise I think the proportions are pretty good.

>>4049565
I agree with the other anon for the rocks. The lighting needs some clarifications too. Where does it come from. There is no real indication of where the lightsource is since it should at least be brighter than the light on the character. The upper part should be darker as well if it isn't lit by anything. Also the right hand. The composition is nice. It will look good when it's finished.

One more.

>>4049801
Fuck, I should've came here to check out any critiques before starting a new one. Still, I appreciate the suggestion, anon

Thoughts on this one, experimenting with spotting blacks

what is the line between /beg/ and /meh/? at what point can someone identify that they are decent enough to post here instead?

>>4049427
saved this from another thread to give you a pointer but cant find it
body scaled to 110% head left the same
or is your guy really that big headed or are you doing a caricature

>>4050064
if someone tells you to get off of /beg/ then you're probably meant for greener pastures. vice versa applies too

>>4050066
Some long ass thighs

>>4050059
your perspective is really nice anon! do you use ref or is it all from imagination

i feel like the colors look tacky?

>>4050362
I disagree, this looks really appealing and the colours add atmosphere

>>4041190

painted this from ref

>>4050362
I'd make the greenish hues a bluish purple

>>4050082
is there a more concrete measurement?

Just shitting out some sketches today

>>4050502

>>4050497
You should know it yourself. I wouldn't rely too much on /beg/ to tell you this, I've seen them telling absolute begs to leave.

Another point, this is how I did: leave /beg/ as soon as possible, it's a shithole, albeit a necessary shithole. Leave as soon as you see that the majority of works there are worse than yours, consistently from thread to thread. But you might not be good enough for this thread right away, spend some time elsewhere, maybe not on /ic/ at all. Post in draw threads on other boards, or on other websites. If you stay on /ic/, post exclusively in threads that encourage you to draw/post work, challenge threads etc. ignore bait threads, shitposting, whining threads, or any threads that start with a pepe (I have nothing against the meme itself, but I've yet to see 1 (one) pepe thread on /ic/ worth replying to, in more than 2 years here, it's a 100% flawless indicator of a garbage thread, you can check in the catalog right now). After a while, as you progress a bit, you'll feel more confident to post here.

another from ref

How the fuck do I paint eyelashes?

>>4050502
top left is an upward angle? We see under the nose but nothing under the chin. Makes it seem like there's no jaw

Some sort of random colour generator challenge.

>>4050024
>>4049893

thanks, I changed it up a bit and repainted some areas

>>4050691
you did a great job distinguishing the characters from the background. what if you did the same with their faces? the features are hard to make out, unless that's the goal

painted on this some more. original painting was done in spring

Anyone recommend any video courses on digital rendering or appealing brushwork or something similar?

Requesting critique and thoughts on each.

Please fucking end me. After a month, I was finally able to just draw something again.

Doodled this at work. I can't use references or anything here but at least I found an hour to draw this... (To draw at all) i would appreciate any kind of input.

>>4050970
Good job, I like the clean lines and the attention to detail in the hair. I guess some nitpicks would be some have eyes too close to one another, some plane errors like the face being too visible when you can see the top of the head.

>>4050750
The one's from the background you mean?
I would prefer to keep them vague.
If you mean all the faces then I failed hahaha.

The whole picture is kinda "rushed" and "vague"
I was going for a sketch vibe. Maybe I failed miserably and it just looks crappy.

Does it work as a quickpaint/sketch or should I fix some stuff and render?

PS: thank you for your time and replies.

>>4051077
Just draw more

>>4051169
Okay mom

background is still trash on this but the figure seems to be coming along

>>4051606
No it's not, as usual it's a tonal mess which lacks comprehensive shadows, halftones and lights, you can't see where the light comes from. Not to mention messy proportions, eyes looking like lips and these badly drawn hands. You're constantly posting work which quality doesn't improve, if you don't fuck off to actually study you're an absolute ngmi

>>4050853
I have seen you try for years now Brian but I just think figures and anatomy are just not your thing. Your landscapes however are always very interesting, especially the thumbnail on this one is great. Maybe stick to still lives and environments?

How do you vary halftones on a lit surface? Do you mix in multiple hues to make it less barren?

>>4051620
>Maybe stick to still lives and environments?
yeah but I need to practice what I suck at

>>4051606
Didn't you graduate from SVA? How embarrassing.

>>4051673
I was there for a year lol. SVA was trash, best thing that came out of it was Spencer Wan and I don’t think he even graduated

>>4051653

How do I make these colors less ugly?
She has brown hair and is wearing all black and its nighttime with maybe one overhead hard light.

>>4042534
Very art-germ ish. I love the background, are you saying its from a photo?
The Supergirl is also really nice, I'd like to see it polished up. Should be really nice.

>>4044729
Beautiful anon!
I was going to ask for your blog but see you answered another anon and I am already following you.
I wish more people did backgrounds like this, I really need more inspiration.

>>4048331
Holy FUCK I love this. This is top tier shit anon. Is this a skinwalker?
look at dem hangin tittiehs
What's your blog?

>>4048414
Wow that is a lot like the other one.
You're on your way, I wouldn't call it /beg teir. The colors are really nice and the composition and idea is good.
I think your design for the actual creature is just whats not working in the pic- the multiple colors and eye make it look a little cartoon-y.
Make the beek much longer and pointier and I think it would be a lot scarier. I'd also maybe look at how an actual bi-pedal animal would feast to get the gesture just right.

>>4051717
Can you guys stop giving crits to the lame concept art and give me more attention

>>4051717
>>4051726
Its like... we have no idea what the fuck you're going for and that's the problem. From the thumbnail I can't tell that you just drew weird awkward lines but they make the boobs look very strange and fake, like implants.

I don't know what you're going for but I can tell you what's going on.
If you are TRYING to do a muh style thing then so be it, I can't critique you on that but whose to say who will like it.
But if you were TRYING to make this realistic I see that you smudged all of your shadows out. There are no clear or defiend planes. It gets dark in the armpit but we can't tell where the latisimus dorsi turns into the breast, they're litterally just one solid shape. And where you put the line doesn't even look right, its like in the middle of the shadow instead of at the edge of it.
Your adding of these silly lines is just to add some edges because you don't know how to pa int them. Learn how to paint edges and planes. Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Don't try to make some "beautiful" finished piece and just work on making a lot of small pieces that teach you how light and shadow work.
Start with black and white.
There.

>>4051727
Jeez I didn't even realize this was fucking you Brian.
You've been painting far too long for this stupid bullshit. I've seen your work before and you normally have more clearly defined shadows, whats the deal with this smudgey ugly bullshit?
Looks very amateur.
Don't get me wrong, I dont' really like your other work that much either because I don't like abstract stylized paintings of people, just not my thing, but this is worse.

>>4051730
I know I’m gonna make it cause you guys hate my work

>>4051760
Equating criticism (which you've denied for so long) to hate and hate to envy makes you delusional, not a contender to making it. Stop inflating your ego by the means of your own strawman, you'll forever be working in a McDonalds unless you get your head out of your ass.

You're probably getting nowhere with this act in the commercial arts scene. As to academic art, I can only wish you good luck.

>>4051717
>>4051653
>>4051606
>tfw just started oil painting and already better than jimmy, brian, and illastrat

>>4051779
*inhales*

>>4051776
I don’t take advice from idiots. You guys aren’t competition. You aren’t smart enough to envy me, you’re too dumb to understand what good art is so I don’t ascribe negative feelings to you. It’s mean to make fun of retards

>>4051760
Before I knew it was you I hated it. You're an idiot. How much have you even made off of your paintings?

>>4051781
Wait to out yourself retard.
How dumb are you for using your real name on here?
You realize no ones ever going to take you seriously because you have literally hundreds of posts on here? Why the fuck are you even here if you think we're all idiots? Must be because the only place you can get ANY attention, whether it be bad or good is this "shit hole".
The only place for an ego like yours is art school. Go there and be a professor and milk the government's teet because no one is going to pay you who isn't full of shit themselves.

>>4051818
What? I couldn’t hear you you were mumbling

>>4051780
You’re probably handicapped anyways if you can’t figure out how to safely use oils.

>>4051822
What?

>>4050127
Thanks anon. My stuff is based from imagination. A lot of it comes from just drawing out in public or prior experience with models.

I am really strugglin
This is the easiest lighting in black and white but I've never been able to do it that well in color.
I can't ever find a good reference in illustration, photo or tutorial form.

>>4051877
pwease somebody hewp me

>>4051877
>wikiHow: How to poop sideways while lying in a pile of glass

beg her ouo

>>4052098
i meant here

>>4051877
just wing it

>>4052109
Are you my gf?

>>4051877
The drawing itself looks so weird ... What happened to her right arm... Is her face directly facing the camera or not?

You don't need to shade her in that dark if you light up the background more. The colours work together - if you add a yellowish light from above use it to frame the character interestingly in the dark scene.

>>4052126
Please don't just wing it - this looks terrible

feel like perspective is my weakest point especially when i draw heads. usually when i make a mistake i notice something's off and from then it's just trial and error to find what it is

>>4052130
Ughhh. Yeah I kind of wanted to go with a different angle but the client really liked this one. Does it look better like this?
>>4052069
thank you, I can't fuckin unsee this.
>>4052126
thank you for the paintover anon, i like the way you did the glass. maybei just don't like blue and yellow together, but yellow and purple also feels wrong.

>>4052169
Moved her head further away from the right arm, lessened the chin - moed the mouth to the nose - I tried to turn the head more so she's looking up. For the left arm I tried, but it still looks fucked.

And some colours... good luck anon hope your client will be happy!

I don’t think I planned out the perspective well enough, somethings just look off, I like the composition but the perspective obviously needs work. Can any anon do a quick perspective redline or something for me please? I’m having trouble figuring this out

>>4052332
Sorry its a little big

>>4050060
>>4044729
>>4044818
>>4045591
>>4048003
>>4048455
My favs ITT. Great thread, Anons!

I would post this on my Twitter. If I had one X_x

>>4051820
hahahaha you got destroyed and this was your response ahahahaha

>>4052861
Vary nice Vary nice

>>4052861
whats your process? 3d first? photobashing?

>>4052992
his mom

>>4052109
Really digging the symmetry with the curved lines. The beast's mouth looks a bit flat to me, I'm not sure if its the teeth, or tongue, or what though.

>>4052098
>>4052101
then go to /beg/

>>4052861
It looks completely bashed. Even if it wasn’t, why would you paint something to look bashed?

how do i keep drawing for more than 10 min. I know I can draw good stuff but I got some weird adhd thing going on whenever i sit down to draw. pic related is a drawing I gave up on after 10 min

>>4053819
I like listening to music personally, but a lot of it is just training yourself to sit down and draw for hours at a time.

I also highly recommend you go to the /beg/ threads, since based on your art you could use a lot of improvement.

>>4053819
>I know I can draw good stuff
No you can't. You give up because you are not satisfied with your results and can't draw what you'd like to draw.
That's the case for me at least.
Go back to grinding fundies.

>>4053641
needs more values, more darks.
keep it up

>>4045632
>>4052871

Thanks guys!

>>4042254
>>4042256

Finally finished rendering this.

never really painted a lot and i wanted to get into it, this doesnt look so good and id like to maybe get some criticism (its a wip)