/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i think i've been making progress with my latest work so far. any way i can make it better?

>>4027079
Draw full body and a background

trying to understand anatomy around the pelvis, fucked around for a few hours before i downloaded Anatomy for Sculptors and it helped a bit. here are my most recent ones.
still /beg/ perspective and proportions. not sure if i will ever use this since most legs in drawn porn are just fatty cylinders, and that's what appeals to most people including myself. next i will probably try to learn more about the anatomy surrounding the ribcage, that's probably more useful

I feel like I’m learning something with this

>>4027665
I love the shading it feels dynamic

>>4027668
That makes me happy :’) thank you, anon

>>4027665
>>4027661
>>4027079

>>>/beg/

>>4027673
An infinite loop

>>4027673
Snip snip

am i good enough to post in this thread yet?

>>4026457
>>4026461
No, the leg is definitely wrong. Go ahead and draw the two or three lines it'd take to draw the part that's hidden by the tail if you disagree.

>>4028827
If you didn't use ref: no, because you should have.
If you did: no, because you couldn't copy the ref correctly.

>>4028827
Good job on the hatching and the value relationships though.

>>4028832
Dude you are wrong. It is referenced

>>4028968
Love the Russian typography

>>4028968

Why reverse first and last name, bratan?

>>4028987
composition (proebalsya blyat')

>>4028995

Hah, byvaet.
Zbs anyway.

>>4028924
pic?

just finished this

>>4029195
I'm in love, anon. Gives such a retro vibe

>>4029199
thanks! im glad to hear you say this

some head practice

>>4028827
pretty decent bro

>>4029309
These have a lot of character, good job

>>4029309
How are you so good at faces but so bad at head shapes?

>>4029487
The head shapes have so much soul, are you silly in the head?

>>4029491
he has "look at his head" syndrome but he'll be fine

>>4029309
You need to vary the eye details. These all look quite similar

I did a 6 hour life drawing pose

>>4029518
That’s fuckin nice duee

>>4029518
this is a refresher after so much Brian posting in the last thread, good work anon, it's inspiring

Anon on /a/ requested me this. Aqua doing Mamako pout

i'm not feeling it at all really but atleast its something

anything to adjust before rendering?

>>4029651
I initially read it as a nun raping a guy bending over

>>4029651
This is the anime study thread, you're looking for the alternative stylization thread

>>4029700
Holy shit I'm retarded

Practicing building up values with black as opposed to picking tones of grey and painting them opaquely.

>>4029747
This looks good, and oof that’s something I’ll need to practice

>>4029699
cannot unsee!!

>>4029699
KEK

>>4029699
That’s what I saw from the thumbnail too!!

>>4027079
It's pretty cool but there's gotta be a way to make this a little more interesting - add background, zoom out a little to reveal the pose. I like the face of this character, though.
>>4027661
It's getting there! Go ahead and draw a few more of these every day
>>4027665
I love your work, you're really great at using this tool (is it a BIC pen?). I see you draw a lot of characters, it would be nice if added some background for a more finished look.
>>4028827
I think yes! I like how the lines on the first animal mostly go with the direction of the fur. I have some issues with that other animal, however, I think the lines on the back are a little too much. To me it looks like it's covered in some plastic wrap? Lol. Anyway, keep it up. GMI
>>4028968
Love the style!!! The layout is very good, it works really great as a poster. Kind of a shame most of that plane in the back is covered, maybe it isn't even that necessary? Idk
>>4029195
Very cool, love the painterly look.
>>4029309
NICE!
>>4029518
That's insane. Great work.
>>4029651
You did a really great job on the guys hair, it looks very real. I'd add some hint of background elements, not too rendered, just to give more sense of depth.
>>4029668
Need to see a follow-up on this one, can't quite tell what it is yet.
>>4029747
Very nice

Pic related I drew a piece to add to my editorial portoflio.

>>4030480
Ohh I love the colours used in this
>is it a BIC pen?
I used to draw with ballpoint pens and the end result was neat but I’m trying to use fineliners nowadays :0 thank you for the compliment anon, it means a lot <3

im still new to painting. did this from my head, thoughts?

>>4030480
I really hate the idea but I gotta say your work looks so professional and great for editorial. Its not my jam, but you're doing it really well. I remember seeing a few other pieces by you before. Do you freelance with editorial companies?

>>4030846
Haha yeah, the concept is pretty generic I admit. I'm a freelancer full time but I work in video production.

>>4030843
It’s got soul and is pretty appealing, use a reference next time though

Sure, why not? Eat me alive.

I’m just not sure where I’m going with my shit anymore.

>>4031181
Looks like you are going
>>>BACK TO /BEG/INNER>>>

I really like cats.

going to try to paint a crucifixion scene

>>4031181
looks like you drew the hood & eyes first then the rest of the body separately after. It makes the face bit too long and the eyes off-center from the rest of the face.
In my opinion the shading on the cloak is too thick as the bodysuit and cape look like rubber.
all of this might be me staring at this trying to pick nits but overall I'd say it's a nice piece.

>>4031824
garish, gaudy, and jewish. checked.

>>4031824
Staaahp. You don't ever listen to anything anyone tells you, you keep posting the same kind of shit that never gets any better. You're like the second coming of Illastrat.

Maybe art just isn't your thing, bro.

how do i fix this colour scheme? i'm stuck with yellow/orange for the woman but anything else can be changed

>>4031570
Nice Giger vibes
>>4031824
Could you stop posting
>>4032227
I don't think you need to fix anything, maybe just add some complexity into background colours and add shades to hold everything together (I'd use violet of the bridge on the foreground and a bit lighter on the background so the character has more contrast)

i added jesus. theres gonna be four roman soldiers and a city in the background

>>4032535
finished it

>>4032598
LOL
illastrat tier holy shit

>>4032535
Brian, please answer the phone. You haven't ONCE payed child support, and your son misses you.

>>4032598
This has got to be your worst one yet

>>4032616
I’d argue it’s the best one yet

Hi anons, can someone give me good critique, anything is welcome, im really struggling with landscapes atm.

just finished this

>>4032732
do you have a blog/website? I love the energy/emotion of your paining.

>>4032609
Kek

>>4032766
i have a deviantart but as of right now its predominantly my commissioned work so its all portraits. im going to make an effort to put more fantasy/narrative paintings up there and move the portraits somewhere else. here is the link if you are still interested

https://www.deviantart.com/doctirderp/gallery/

>>4032801
It's awkwardly obvious when you paint from a photo, lol.

>>4032804
i am paid to paint from photos mate

>>4032804
How do you find people to commission you digital portraits?

>>4032815
if you are referring to me
>>4032801
i built up and audience and community through facebook, not art related, but when i do post art i will typically get commissions because new people are always joining the group.

>>4032819
Ah I see, how much do you charge people for the portraits?

>>4032821
depends on what they want. a single subject shoulders up portrait usually goes for 200 usd if they want it in oils its significantly more. most 3 sibject portraits i charge somewhere around 700-900 usd. nobody wants a 3 subject in oil because the price is just astronomical compared to what most people can afford.

>>4032808
I'll let you know if I want a direct copy of my photos, then.

Seriously though, your older portrait studies are really nice. In some of your recent ones (specifically soldiers/marriage ones) the lighting just makes it feel really unnatural.

It looks like you've just used a colour picker to do the work, and on the soldier one It looks like you've just painted over the photo because the edges between those colours look like jpg compression. You're welcome to say "but I didn't do that", but that's what it looks like. You're welcome to keep doing that if you want to make money instead of putting in the effort, but it hurts your output after a few years, and stifles your possible growth.

I suggest you spend some time thinking about the way old artists would approach the lighting for the older portraits, specifically how soft the light is, what parts of the face are illuminated, etc. There is a book with a lot of info you might find useful, I can't remember it's name but I remember that the author used red to draw, and was something like "everything I know about portraits" or "drawing the head", something like that, but you should read about that to get an idea on how you can improve them.

If you keep painting directly from photos, it will cripple you. Learn how to make a good portrait, and then import the proportions of their faces onto what you make.

>>4032815
Easiest way to get started now is to make an instagram, facebook, etc to post your work there. Go to r/redditgetsdrawn and draw/paint people there for exposure and practice. just look at what other people do in terms of branding. Depending on your skill level, it's a pretty easy way to get noticed and also get examples of your work in the hands of people who might recommend you.

>>4032828
>>4032849
Thanks guys

>>4032842
the paintings i just posted above
>>4032732
>>4029195
were also done from photos

when i am doing a commission people are paying me to get the best likeness that i can, so i dont take liberties with colors, form or composition like i can with personal paintings. when im doing a portrait for someone else, its a product before anything else because thats what they are paying for. this is an oil painting ive awhile back. if i were taking any shortcuts i really wouldnt be able to produce this quality on a physical canvas but i have many examples of this. but regardless, thanks for the critique, i will keep it in mind.

Where do i get a pack of simple Photoshop brushes?

Everywhere there are super complex textured brushes, but i'm looking for something simple such
>round pressure to flow
>round pressure to size
>soft round
>etc
Does anybody know a pack with decent simple brushes?

>>4032862
I like the colours you used in the other 2 pics, although the white lighting on the first one is garish. The second one is great, though. I like how you've blended the colours, although I think some more careful definition of the forms of the abdominal muscles would go a long way.

>>paying to get the best likeness
You can say this, but please know you're using this as an excuse to take a shortcut and not put in extra work because you are scared it will not turn out right. You aren't taking liberties if you are reproducing a photo, you are limiting yourself.
Practice transferring proportions of a face to the same face in a different angle, it's hard, but you have the skill to do it. I think it's discussed in a loomis book (no meme) how to do this, it's pretty much having them side by side and drawing lines from one to the other to have the right proportions, but he discusses it better. If you feel you can only get their likeness through copying a photo, then in your own time practice not doing it. it is a crutch that you can discard at any time, but you have to practice not using it.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/John_Singer_Sargent
Download all of his paintings in the highest resolution available. look at them and think about why they are so attractive. Look at the brush strokes and think about how Sargent has placed each stroke so it has a purpose in the whole painting. Think about the colours he used, what areas are muted and what areas are vibrant. Change them to greyscale, and think about how he depicts light on clothing and incorporate it into your work. Look at the drawings, and think about what he takes into consideration at the start of a portrait. to help your own process.

https://keenewilson.com/page/2947/john-singer-sargents-painting-techniques
Is a great resource to give you ideas on how you can improve your your workflow with notes from a master.

Not mine but I'm really proud if my friend who made this and am trying to get him more attention

>>4032946
i agree with a lot of the things you've said. thanks for ur time.

>>4032968
I may not agree with your political views (your paintings of trump make me cringe). But as an artist I respect you skill, and especially your openness to critique. You're gunna make it my dude.

>>4032974
No he’s not you’re all delusional

>>4032616
>>4032604
good job taking the opportunity of talking to someone smarter than you and instead treating them like an equal or less. Congratulations, you will never learn anything, and you're not going to make it.

>>4032982
Thank you for your unique perspective and thoughtful comment.

>>4032139
>second coming of illastrat
anon... this is brian, he's the original illastrat

Requesting comments and criticism on the progress made so far. Will make the connections when I return from dinner.

>>4033435
that extended arm is janked in the elbow
bow is off centre
where's she looking? her face is a little strange
weird hat anatomy

that's a really polished looking piece to put for critique. it's impressive and well done, but a lot of critique we could give you on this piece would undo presumably hours of work. maybe you should post a fresh sketch for us to insult.

>>4033435
Nice work with the folds on the gown. I'm only going to roughly suggest some colour changes.

the bright area on the hair takes a lot of attention. I lowered it's value, saturation, and also a cooler hue while adjusting some of the darker shadows too. Some small highlights to suggest the flow of the hair will look much nicer.

Knocked back the light area on the dress, too. moved the shade forward to reduce the attention it demands on your eyes, it's better to keep the face the main focal point. Also, added some grey-er vibes into the shade of the dress to give it a more pleasant feel.

I've accepted that I'm going to render this to oblivion

so here's an update

Made this for a tarot deck

>>4033918
If using photoshop, where did you get those brushes?

>>4032723
It's good that you aren't simply flipping the picture to create the reflection, but you're doing something backwards there. We should be able to see more of the underside of objects, not less, in the water. Compared to looking at the object directly, that is. Light as bright as the sky in the water too, don't be afraid of high contrast.

Don't think that was the thing you were asking about though. Zoom out and squint at it, you've dropped a lot of contrast in the mid ground, a good opportunity to include some interesting shapes. More details in the foreground will make the picture more realistic, like it has depth - without having to detail everything. Don't be afraid to lose some edges, either.

Marco Bucci's 10 minute lost edges tutorial https://youtu.be/Nap7dwHjD9Y

And interesting shape tutorial https://youtu.be/-ZknWKTpc90

>>4033918
The only problem I have with some of your work is that the gestures of your figures get a bit stiff, but other than that really nice job.

>>4033918
Honestly I'm loving this so far. Very strong face,gorgeous hair, fine legs and you're getting the clothing down pretty well. Keep it up, I want to see the final product and maybe question you on your rendering techniques.

>>4033018
this is what ego looks like, kids

>>4033956
thanks anon, i was already aware of the marco bucci thing, but i will rewatch. Do you have any tips for creating more clean shapes? Even at the initial block in phase I cant get my shapes to look really clean and not amateurish when i zoom in.

Just finished this, can someone give me good critique on what to improve, im currently messing around a lot with brushes and nothing seems to work.

>>4034069
Not sure exactly what you mean by more clean shapes. More... readable?

No need to worry about what looks clean, when zoomed in, at the beginning of a painting.

>>4034091
"Finished"

Push it for another 10 hours and we can see if it's finished by then

Finally got a laptop i can paint on again :)

>>4034099
I meant finished as in im gonna stop working on it, its definitely not a "finished piece". It was more of a value and shape study.

But do people really spend that long on finished pieces in general? would i really need 10 more hours to make this finished, what would I work on in those 10 hours? Introducing more shapes, or clean?

>>4034176
Don't listen to him, no such thing as a finished piece. Everything should be a study and should be done at the edge of one's skill and within a set timeframe.
Anyway your piece has really nice values. However the women is too dark, the darkest values should be closest to the camera. Also the ground highlights could be put in better perspective by narrowing their up-down lengths in comparison to their widths, easily doable if they're on a separate layer. Good work and don't listen to crabs.

>>4034110
Haha this is great I love it, you did a good job on her breasts

>>4034194
ty :)
made some adjustments

>>4033987
I know, especially this as it was poorly planned

>>4032598
Cool aesthetic but doing fine arts doesn't exempt you from needing to learn perspective and form.
That cross is not drawn correctly in perspective, and it's the only solid form in the piece, aside from the scribble hand, and confusing body on the right guy. Making the everything feel very amateur-pretending-to-be-deep.

I don't feel like spending any more time rendering this, any feedback anons?

>>4034479
I dont like the black hole in the boot but the rest is good, how long did it take you?

>>4034494
The hole does look a bit out of place, thanks for pointing it out.
I think most of it was done in about 4 days, then I spent a week just doing small fixes here and there, indecisive if I should post or not. Decided to just call it done and move on.

>>4034069
The lasso tool is fun if you're not already using.

>>4032732
I always figured that if digital artists are trying to go for the more traditionally-painted look and technique, then they might as well add some textures to their work to add to the effect. Pic related is a little extreme, but there's no hard in adding some subtle canvas textures.

i think i killed it

>>4034562
think again

>>4034562
The fog should have soft edges, try airbrush. Also, where does the light come from? Why is that background wall in shadow? Maybe divide it into a lit area and a shadow area, it might make it more interesting visually.

>>4029518
R. Good!
>>4029747
Nice. Now. I wanna do it
>>4032732
I love this! But those hands... come on.
You have the knowledge


Did this as practice. Either is just boring or I render like shit or both!
Give it to me straight ic

>>4034631
Just fyi, Ugolino was Italian, centuries after the roman empire fell

>>4029532
That’s all that guy drew in six hours lol

How are the shapes?

>>4027661
people are not tiny little twinks on top and then hyper-muscular below.

>>4034631
>draw thread
>i see no drawing
hmmmmmmmm

>>4032801
based white-obsessed amerimutt

>>4034631
This is sick desu

>>4033435
polished turd

>>4033435
If you are the person I think you are, I see your work all the time on the Waifu Factory. I think it would benefit you to simplify the face a bit more and introduce more variety in the design of your shapes (in the stripes, the hair, etc.)
One thing I like to do is draw a big shape and then cut inside of it with a smaller one, which automatically creates an asymetric ratio of shapes without too much work.

>>4034110
This is starting to look cool but she has very broad shoulders for a woman, I don't know if that's intentional or not. You might also wanna start working out the specifics of the siloheutte of her lower body, right now the exact placement of the anatomical points and overall proportions are bit awkward.

>>4034892
Thanks!
>>4034885
Guilty, almost no drawing in this one. Yet i dont think this warrants a thread by itself, so i post it here.
>>4034653
The name change should fix that :P

>>4034639
i liked the thumbnail a lot

I’m really insecure about the neck lenght and the shoulders width. There are probably a lot more errors, if you could point them out I will be grateful.

Haven’t drawn much the last few month trying to get back into it

>>4035106
I’m loving the shape design

Bro, study your fundamentals, and form etc.
It looks to me like you are just randomly adding cel shading etc,
and you aren't really thinking about shadows as a tool to define the form.
To me, idk if it's only me, or if I am autistic, but the shading of the legs suggests that it is going inward, and
then the feet are broken, like nothing looks connected. It doesn't look like she is a solid object in space.
Like, study your fundamentals. You have no knowledge of perspective/you aren't thinking about perspective.
The hair looks really cool, the folds and the attention to detail is nice. Overall, it looks very polished, which is nice.
But the fundamental drawing is flawed, and nothing, NOTHING you do will make this look good. No matter
how much you polish it etc etc, you have to study your fundies. GO BACK TO THE FUNDIES.

>>4033933
I like it, the only thing that stands out to me is that the road and the dress being almost the same hue/value and saturation really confuses the viewer
So maybe, something like this would look better? Or, idk much about color myself, maybe someone else
that understands it more could give a better suggestion.

>>4034935
Yeah working on it, ty

>>4035162
I really like this but the shoulders need some work

some people offered advice yesterday and i took it. another paint layer, more rendering, revised the left hand.

>>4035033
colors look super unnatural in an unnerving way, like an alien wearing a skin suit designed by someone with achromatopsia.

Did some touch ups. Will start off early tomorrow with some warm ups and gestures, then follow it with some studies. By night, I should have a couple of character sketches done.

>>4035033
it would be unfair to criticize this because there is a lot to be improved on. the only thing i would say is without so much fault is the proportions seem alright. your biggest challenge is going to be values. i would suggest doing black and white studies before you attempt to create anything independent, or atleast trail closely to a reference.

Can someone please redline this and help with headsize? It's my main priority right now among all of the other obvious flaws. I've been trying to draw without a reference lately and it's still tricky for me to get anatomy right afterwards

>>4035374
I’m not near my tablet atm otherwise I would redline. I wanted to comment that, although it was probably unintentional, I’m weirdly liking the colours and values that you used in this because it reminds me of the rustic feel of Silent Hill concept art

>>4035391
funny you say that, i actually made her for a videogame, not exactly horror, but pretty dark and surreal. Still working refining the graphics, but pic related is what i'm goin for. The sprites in game get some color correction and a bit of rgb noise added to them. Pic related sprite could use a redline too as i didn't use a reference for her either

>>4035374
>>4035403
/beg/

>>4035403
Keep working towards that kind of atmosphere, but practice more anatomy and use references from games that also use that kind of aesthetic

>>4035294
Her calves are huge and the face you've painted is clearly angled to be in a very typical angle so that you don't have to apply a more imaginative and complicated angle.
The colors and painting no doubt took hours, hours that could have been spent on learning better anatomy.

>>4035032
>>4034639

Yeah what can I do to improve it?

>>4035595
the only thing i can think of is use industrial references and paint some textures

More cats.

>>4035232
Can you elaborate please?

>>4035753
not that guy , but I think he might mean how the shoulders transition into he arms, also there is no insertion or crease in the armpit where the breast begins they just start where the bra strap is hope that helps

my boner is drawing a mummy

Played around with the colours a bit.

>>4035995
looks like a flaccid penis being rejected by a guy in the thubnail

wip

>>4035152
tnx my dude.

>>4036039
That is so unfortunate

>>4036039
KEK it does

>>4035179
Thanks for the feedback! I agree, I should have shaded the back of the dress better.

what can I do to elevate my spaceship interior? I realise that it’s lacking a lot of solid blacks, the vanishing points are not level (perspective is generally lazy) and the shapes are a bit basic. beyond this I’m not sure what to do, I’ve been struggling with this panel for months

Are there any good tutorials on greyscale rendering and adding colors later? Im currently trying this out (pic related) but didnt stumble upon a decent one

Trying to get back into painting since it’s been a while and I want to improve at it. Using procreate

>>4036305
Unrelated to the painting, but I like the detail, that the Moths even ate holes into the warning sign

>>4036283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJitss58XKc

>>4036283
Ctrl paint has the best one.

>>4036283
>>4036455
saw one by artgerm as well was pretty good

now for the part i hate
coloring

>>4036039
:L

>>4036523
This looks really good so far

did a small color study for a larger painting i will do tomorrow

might as well post here since its more active. does the foreshortening on her arm need fixing? anything else urgently need correction?

>>4036611
don;t think you're allowed the nudity on this board dude

>>4036611
crap sorry wrong board....

>>4036615
Are you colorblind?

>>4036611
Take it to the porn thread, degenerate.

Mods, delete this shit

>>4036136

>>4036615
>>4036645
retards

>>4036666
hes fucking with you, dumbass

good thread

>>4036523
oooo nice, I'd like to see it in color. going from drawer to painter is always a struggle and you're not alone. i ruin all my sketches.

>>4036525
anon is this your work? I love the atmosphere you created with the color and the noise
>>4036278
>struggling with this panel for months
>months
>months
>one panel
dude you have a probelm. Just get this done and move on, its not the be all end all to your work. The perspective on it is fine, all I could see you doing is adding a lot of buttons and switches to the exterior. I once made a similar drawing and covered every surface in random shapes and it makes it look more legit i think
pic related, what im talking about is more in the "hallway" type thigns leading out of the room she's in
balance negative empty space with positive space full of patterns
>>4036224
for some reason the thumbnail of this one looks like it is one of those ambient occlusion pictures
>>4035995
if this is yours you're too good for /ic
>>4035766
the way this girls ribcage goes in....makes her look so hungry
>>4035008
amazing job anon, whats your process? I assume with all this detail its got to be somewhat photobashed, but everything comes together so seamlessly. care to post more or give blog?

Still working but any advice on making this look more interesting and less obnoxious?
its commission i dont smoke

>>4036846

Wip

>>4036852
Oh I love this

Do you support gays?? Yes/No??

Forgot About Morpheus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgCqGm_6Hs
Still D.R.E.(A.M.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY
Dhe Straight And Narrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvY5MgOgDUw
Rabin Lenin Did Nothing Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8bzm7-kIQ

>Robin

Beep beep

>>4036852
Very nice, anon. What brush pack is that? I've been using Peleng's for a while but the textures are rather subdued.

>>4036854
Thanks
>>4036874
Thanks, I've been trying out Mathias zamecki's. It has a lot brushes ( a bit more than necessary), but I mostly use the stuff in the essentials and mixer brush folders.

>>4036445
>>4036455
>>4036476
Thank you anons those are actually very helpful. Will check in in a few days and post some progress maybe. This technique seems to actually save you a lot of time and helps with values.

feedback? it's something i did some weeks ago

>>4037056
the wooloo is very stimulating if you know what i'm saying

>>4036850
de de deee im done

Kind of going for a tattoo style, i'd eventually like to maybe even start doing tattoos starting on my thighs

>>4037150
Thats incredible! I dont really have any critique i just think thats amazing haha

>>4037261
Fuck.

>>4036865
this has a childish feel to it that i really like keep it up

>>4036844
I'm three of those haha. The main thing that adds speed and accuracy is the 3d base i use. I have a big library of objects i can spam into the scenes nowadays.I use Daz3d for character posing, zbrush for organic stuff.marvelous designer for outfits, blender for hardsurface, keyshot for rendering. fotosketcher to speed up painting process, and good old photoshop for drawing, photobash and post.

https://www.instagram.com/thmsvis/?hl=en
I usually post alot of stories on there.

Here's a render for the flaccid penis guy

>>4037533
Another one WIP

>>4037537
Main thing i love about the 3d is fooling around with camera angles light and composition.

thumbnail painting
dont know if i will make this a full painting or not

>>4036631
thanks for the ref

>>4035849

This is really good. I'm not an artist or anything so don't know how to offer any critique but I liked this.

>>4036654

>>4037541
these belong on the 3d board...

>>4036305
cool concept but that hill being white makes the entire thing feel fake

>>4037533

oh hey dude I also use a lot of those, what do you use fotosketcher for?

Still having trouble rounding off edges at an angle, I can't seem to not make them wonky and I don't want to have to draw the equivalent of a roadmap in lines every time just to get on little peice looking right..tips on FAST accurate angle drawing?

>>4037916
Ive been on /ic for almost a decade. My methods might have expanded but i still get good critique here sometimes. /3d sends me here anyway. So ill just stay here.

>>4037926
It's pretty much the same as Akvis but free. turns your renders into paintings ;)

I did these for practice.

>>4026534
not too happy with this one

Any recommendation? Maybe for a backgroud

>>4037537
Dude, that angle is epic

Why did it take so many years for me to find out that the value progression in nature is note linear?

Now I understand why they keep saying "think like a comic book artist", it's afaik to keep light and shadow families separated and focus on only one of them!

>>4038014
brap

>>4037993
>>4038007
>>4038014
Are you a fan of Sergey Kolesov?

>>4038013
Can you elaborate on that or perhaps direct me to a source where I can read about that? Seems helpful, much like this week I noticed that if the values work you can basically use whatever color you want anywhere you want. Pic related is an example of that, the color variation make the picture look way deeper and don't mess with the values at all.

>>4038091
How to draw portraits in charcoal by Nathan fowkes. Is one of the best examples of this but most teachers will talk about keeping lights and darks separated.

>>4038105
Thanks for the pointer, mate. I'll be sure to take a look at the book.

>>4038013
Do you mean the fact that the lightness of a surface changes according to the cosine of the angle of light?

10 / 250 Boxes

>>4037913

>>4038105
Do you have a .pdf for that book or did you buy it, anon? I looked everywhere I didn't manage to find it.

City stuff

I'm doing these rough renders trying to get a feel for what the process should be like, at the moment I'm just putting colors down and seeing what sticks. Not sure how to give it depth and make it less muddy. Feels like solid brush strokes are too hard but blending them together makes for an airbrushy look. I don't know the first thing about rendering, like if I should keep layers separate, or if I should paint from darkest to lightest, or if I should rely on blending modes. I have had some success in the past with doing values first and then adding color, but I don't want to do that.

>>4038542
Man, try playing some more with the colors, have fun with it. As is there is nearly no hue variation in the local colors of the body, no reds in the tits, hands, cheeks, etc. I'd need to do some studies on lizards to know how their colors vary, but the humans bit could use more "fun" for sure.

painted my friend

I know it's heavily stylized but I'd love to get some constructive feedback on anathomy and pose.

>>4038655
why you have shitskin friend

its stiff

>>4029747
is this procreat, photoshop or any other?

>>4038677
How can someone critique your anatomy if you don't even try to make the anatomy right? Mate, just google ecorché and go back to /beg/, stop using those brushes while you're at it in favor of the hard round.

>>4037951
what's the practice here? these look like half assed tracings, like you didn't put effort here

>>4034806
he's making toon porn
hyperbolic proportion is expected

>>4034544
Oh my god that's so much more pleasing to look at. Not the one who painted it but good work Anon.

lil doodle

>>4038542
I really like the lines you did, and so I thought it would be fun to colour her. On the left I went for a more neon-ish vibe, on the right I went for more tame colours,

I stuck with a light source from overhead (sun, or something), so it's important to cast the shadow of the tits far down. You did some pillow shading on the abdomen on yours, which shouldn't be there.

As for the brush, I don't really know what program you're using, so it's hard to give much advice, but generally you should be using a bigger brush with soft edges and then get smaller. It looks like whatever you're using has hard edges, which leaves those unsightly edges in shading like on the hips/boobs.

Layers are fine. you can experiment with adjusting colours easily to train your eyes, but it's good to be able to do it all on one layer.
Light to dark doesn't matter most of the time, and mostly depends on context. if I'm pulling from light into dark, I'll think about how the light sources is falling over the form, if it's from dark to light I'll be thinking about how the shadow is cast.
I don't even know what blending modes are.
Doing values and then colour is good if you really want to pay attention to the values of a piece. It's fine to do values > colour > merge layers and then flesh it out more.

When doing shading, my general work flow is to do a base flat colour. Then, with a big brush do all cast shadows about where they should be (so now it's 2 colours), then add darker shadows where light wont get (Ambient occlusion). blend the light areas and the shaded areas into each other. Do your best to not use parallel strokes to blend (eg on the boobs and hips) You should try to blend the colours into each other, rather than along each other. It's fine when getting the initial colours down but you will have more success blending them together.
Do the highlights last. They are the best part, but always save it until the very end.

Anyone like continues ink?

vvv

>>4038978
would love to see this cleaned up

>>4038117
I'm too dumb to put it into mathematical terms but as long as it's being hit by light, no matter how shallow the angle, it's still in the light family. as soon as it hits the Terminator (whose shape is what determines the cast shadow), it drops very rapidly (almost 100-0) to shadow.

Also consider a camera's exposure: if you have it open enough to see details on the shadow side, the light side becomes washed out. If it's closed enough to see form and shapes on the light side, the shadow family loses detail (unless hit by reflected light). This is how we know the Apollo 11 photos are fake btw, if the shutter speed and exposure of the cameras are closed enough that we don't see stars, all shadows should look near pitch black since there's probably not a lot of reflected light.

>>4038117
What he means is to have your active area be in shadow while the passive be in light, or visa versa. Also that value doesn't change depending on the angle how we like to think it does, pic related is how it actually works. So thinking like a comic book artist is the best way to go about it, just google 'notan' is you want to apply this to environments.

>>4039062
>pic related is how it actually works
Yes, that's the cosine function. Or, rather, the sine because they measure the angle to the surface instead of the angle to the normal, but it's the same shit basically.

>>4039050
>as long as it's being hit by light, no matter how shallow the angle, it's still in the light family. as soon as it hits the Terminator (whose shape is what determines the cast shadow), it drops very rapidly (almost 100-0) to shadow.
Well yeah, in general the closer you get to the terminator the faster the value changes.

Also consider a camera's exposure: if you have it open enough to see details on the shadow side, the light side becomes washed out.
But that's exactly one of the reasons photo refs can be bad, the eye is adaptive, you aren't supposed to replicate this effect in your art.

>This is how we know the Apollo 11 photos are fake btw
Oh, it's a conspiracy retard. Sorry, anon, you're probably too stupid to understand these things.

>since there's probably not a lot of reflected light
Yeah, cause what would reflect light there? I mean, there's only the entire surface of the Moon lit by sunlight, and some white spacesuits.

>>4039007
Great work anon. What kinda brushes do you use exactly? Everything has the right mix of hard and soft

>>4039070
just the default hard round brush but i stretched it to have an oval shape in the brush menu. i think it gives a bit of flair on directional strokes, fun to play around with

>>4039069
oh yes, reflected light from the ground is definitely stronger than stars unfiltered by an atmosphere

>>4039087
Yes. Good thing that you realize this, cause these are important things for an artist.

>>4039090
0/10

>>4039096
Okay, you actually are too stupid, it's no use arguing with you.

>>4037575
a bit hard to read form the thumbnail but the atmosphere on the piece is spot on, dark and oppressing good stuff

>>4039102
1/10

at least you got some (You)s out of it

>>4032801
Jesus didn't look like that. Pic related, it's our current best scientific reconstruction.

Was listening to the pathological soundtrack and decided to just draw whatever and this is what came out. It's not done yet but I'm kinda happy with it

>>4039219
*pathologic
Not pathological

>>4039209
How do I get better at digital colouring?

>>4038677
>>4038701
I'm doing a lot of realistic work also. But I don't want to end up being completely unable to do stylized work.
Also regarding the brushes I use I'm just trying to get faster at painting and doing everything with hard brush takes a lot more time.
Thanks for critique, I'll look into ecorché for sure.
I made some changes just to learn from this painting a little more. I tried to make the pose less stiff and turned the shading more realistic in some places. I'll probably finish at this point though.

>>4038655
Spider-Man might beat you up for this

>>4037198
i-is this sarcasm desu

if not then- thank you.

>>4038981
Tried doing a few more iterations, the top is just more of the same trying to see what looks good, the bottom is where I followed the directions you suggested. I don't know what it is but I still can't make something that looks impressive. There's still a bit of pillow shading going on, maybe my blending brush is also a bit too smudgy. It could be the lazy color use, maybe I just have to experiment with varying subtle hue variations around different body parts like that other anon suggested (though it seems like mixing any other color with green produces some very ugly colors). Could also just be that I have to zoom in and add more detail with a smaller bursh size to make it look good.
As for my actual painting brush, I started using an airbrush with a slightly hard edge. I like the aesthetic that hard edges have though, so your brush looks pretty nice to me. I'm using csp by the way, in case you've got advice for me on that front. Blending modes are those settings that you can set layers to, like overlay or multiply. Though I guess they don't matter when you're working on a single layer.
Sorry for the spam but I feel like I'm very close to being able to churn out something of quality, so I need to understand what it is that I'm failing at

>>4034523
the black hole drew my eyes in too, I ended up staring more at that than anything else...

But goddamn this is rad, the lighting direction and character styling is really well done in particular.

>>4038981
>blend the light areas and the shaded areas into each other.
Not him but I unironically do not understand what brush you're supposed to use for this in photoshop. I know about modifying the smudge tool to make it more blendy, but it's still decidedly different from what you can do in SAI and CSP just by picking the pre-set blending brush. Is there ANY way to not have photoshop gimp me?

Any drawanons here who have actually completed every project in "Keys to drawing"?

>>4038014
>>4038007
>>4037993
These are cool man!

Detailing this.

>>4037994
Thats why i love 3d man, keep thinkering at it untill you got the perfect angle/composition. if id draw evrything from scratch id be impossible.

Thomasin from "The VVitch" (2015)

>>4039688
>if I drew everything from scratch it would be impossible

*DEEPLY inhales*

NOT GONNA MAKE IT

>>4039665
Looks like a collage of 3d, photobash and a tumblr face.

Fucking gross

>>4032723

paint what you see in the photo, for a start. You literally made up the reflections

>>4039525
I don't know what your personal level with colour is, but if you feel like you're ready to go into the deep end go read Gurney's book on colour and light. There is a *lot* of information in there, but it is all useful. Even the stuff on physical paint mixing is useful to get a better idea on how to understand how colours work when you work in digital.

In your pic, the top one has highlights that are too strong and too white, and ambient rim lighting that's too strong. They demand too much attention, keep them subtle.

When mixing colours, don't underestimate greys. They are sleeper OP, and you can use them to work for you when you understand them. The eye can pick up very subtle differences in grey tones (Saturation between 0-10) and it does look amazing.

I would suggest going and looking at the works of Cyancapsule (fuller figures with nice shading/colours), Ataruman (subtle colour changes on the abs) , and Krenz (subtle greys + colours, Nurzhan Bekkaliyev shading)

Oh I thought you meant something else. But layer modes are the best. It's good to use them to understand how you can change the colours on your piece without impacting them directly. Use purple for shadows and setting it to multiply or overlay then using sliders to change the colour until it's pleasing to your eyes is good. Most of the time when I finish I'll add some subtle dodge layers with very very low values for nice effects, also When I'm done I usually add an overlay gradient of Yellow>red>purple>blue at at about 10% on the top to just shift the hues a tiny bit with pleasing effects.

>>4039602
My usual blending brush in SAI2. I don't know what it's called in PS, but just play around with brush settings and look at guides. It's important to spend time figuring out how to configure all the brushes to your needs. I think I've spent a couple weeks in total just getting adjusted to each setting's effects and tweaking them until I know how they will behave.

>>4039966
This is what I mean by an overlay gradient.

Haven't draw in a long time. Any help with the proportions on this one?

Been kind of stuck and trying to get back to the fundamentals.

Made in aggie.io where people can draw/paint together online on a shared canvas.

>>4040084
I actually really like this, good job

>>4040084
I'd participate in group draw threads if I wasn't /beg/. Though it doesnt seem like I see many of those here anymore

Apprehensive about the anatomy here, particularly the armpit area. Half assed the construction initially and paid for it by redrawing a lot of the lower half of her body, but it seems to me like there's also something up with her ribcage

>>4039966
Thanks for all your help, I'll read Gurney and experiment some more with colors and brushes and layer modes. Your advice is very useful, I think I'll improve very fast because of it

I'm stuck at around 15 likes. I would like some feedback while I sulk and try to come up with the next pose to use.

>>4040110
Cute Harpy Princess!

I think if there was one piece of advice I could give everyone on this board: "if you can't solve a problem, the problem starts where you aren't looking"

Every line you make is related to the other lines around it. Every colour is influenced by the colours around it. sometimes the point you can see that's incorrect is just the point where other errors meet. Thinking about things like that also helped me deal with some other problems in life.

For yours, the armpit looks off because some other adjustments needed to be made. The rib cage needs to be adjusted a bit, as well as the boobs to show the shape of the rib cage from the lower angle. Her hips should be a tiny bit fuller due to the low angle, and less of the nipples should be visible from the bottom, too.

Also, it looks like you've drawn the face from a higher angle than the rest of the body. Remember that the lower perspective can really change how the face behaves.

>>4026534
i drawded dis today. am i gun mer kit?

>>4040213
Kys

>>4038507
underrated post. more.

>>4040219
Overrated post. You brainlets are so easily fooled by gimmicks

>>4040220
what gimmick?

>>4040214
ner yuuu!!

>>4040220
Different anon but, god, you’re so fucking pretentious

>>4040225
>>4040214
holy shit these bots are viscous!

>>4040225
>>4040220
>brainlet

>pretentious

back up your argument. how is it a gimmick? it looks good and trad to me.

>>4040224
Heavy blacks

>>4040225
Thats what losers say to justify being mediocre

>>4040233
omg i hate this place.

>heavy blacks

are you racist?

>>4040233
like stop being lazy. explain what the fuck you're talking about. Heavy blacks means nothing. the sketches are good. what the fuck are you trying to say? stop being lazy and explain your dumb fucking arguments.

>>4040238
shh

>>4040245
Shut up retard. Heavy black shadows and loose sloppy linework to hide fundamental mistakes behind plastered on style use your brain so i dont have to spoonfeed you

>>4040254
it's called gestures and they are sketches. you absolute moron. shut the fuck up and lurk more. better yet, go fucking draw and pretend to be good. you fucking suck balls and you'll never be as good as that op. fuck you.

>>4040247
you solved captchas just to type 3 letters? are you absolutely retarded? fuck you asshole. go fuck off to your animu porn, faggot.

>>4040254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY&feature=youtu.be&t=31

You're being angry for the sake of being angry. Are you seriously saying that heavy black shadows when someone is using inks is bad?
Seriously, imagine how much this guys life must suck to come into a draw thread to complain about people drawing. If you're a nicer person, then maybe you'll make some friends who will actually want to talk to you rather than that one person who sends you racist memes on discord who has a pepe icon.
Maybe if you paid a bit more attention in school you wouldn't be working your your shit job for pennies. Maybe if you didn't make that mistake with that one girl you were in a relationship with you would still be together and you might be happy. Stop taking your anger at your own life's mistakes on other people just having fun, spend the effort to change your own life and be a better person before you kill yourself in your room while you're drunk on cheap booze.

>>4040286
they are retarded. but maybe theres still some hope for them. i doubt it. you're right, they probably sit and drink retard juice in their room, alone and sad. awww boo hoo. maybe they should just off themselves. world doesn't need them!

>>4040310
They world doesn't need them as they are now, but they can still be a better person if they try. It's never too late try.

Fucking around with a parallel pen while my pizza was in the oven.

>>4040393
Really like these colours a lot!

did this in 30-40 minutes
Truth is I don't know how to make it better.
My rendering sucks I bet that if I spend hours on it it would just be a polished turd

>>4040380
good. but why the jew nose?

>>4040460
agreed. this is a piece of shit, but if you studied more of light and shadows, you might improve the environmental aspects.

>>4039665
Still working this

>>4040635
I really really like this, anon

>>4040635
nice

Ruan Jia studies are so intimidating, specially with a time limit

>>4040635
i think your values look nice but i really wish you'd turn down the opacity on the line art, it reads as dark value like ambient occlusion. Unless you're going for a stylized, line-arty look

Decided to repurpose the 250 Box Challenge into various construction exercises. Requesting critique on my head/features construction.

>>4040807
as far as i can tell this is some great construction in 3D space, where did you learn 3D construction from (as in, heads and bodies in perspective)? I wanna make my own better

>>4040697
You should study Rembrandt and then come back to RJ. It should make life a little easier.

>>4041246
Try making the water surrounding the hand brighter so the hand is more contrasted, the focal point gets lost in the thumbnail.

idk bout this one

>>4040079
Still going at it...