/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

More simplified animals I guess.

>>3866337
I like it

>>3866343
same Anon, do I need to learn construction and form before I can draw from imagination like this? what books are best for that besides Fun With a Pencil?

>>3866331
Looks very cool. Do you have a link on how to use digital tools to get that plasticky look? I'm a total beginner.

>not a single box on my first page actually lines up right
245 more to go bros

>>3866384
Thanks ! In all honesty, I was a total beg in digital painting 5 weeks ago but I started by painting simple thing, then gradually painted more complex forms to find a comfortable way for me to paint. Week 1 was boxes, week 2 more complex boxes etc...

>>3866352
i pretty much only read hampton and did a few of the first drawabox exercises to come out with this; the drawabox exercise about organic shapes influenced this drawing a lot

>>3866393
Keep up the good work anon.

>>3866386
That's why you'll need to draw so many. By the end of it, you'll have a vastly superior control over your lines and you would be able to understand perspective just by glancing at it. It won't be perfect, but it will be much better.

>>3866404
Sounds nice

>>3866404
Sounds too good to be true.

Practicing to do dynamic poses, does anyone know how I can fix this? I used the photos for some reference for the designs but wanted to challenge myself on the pose. If you want a benchmark for how far I’m in I started like 4 months ago

>>3866386
Do Dynamic Sketching instead

>>3866420
You underestimate the power of fundies. Sure, you won't suddenly understand everything about perspective and achieve godlike linework exactly after drawing 250 boxes, but you'll take a big step forward. A box is the key shape when it comes to perspective (it's easy to understand, easy to draw, and easy to check for mistakes), but some of the beginner artists refuse to grind boxes because that's too boring and they want to make anime girls ASAP. In the end they'll end up doing the same practice if they want to achieve decency, but it'll take them much longer.

>>3866426
May as well do both, no?

>>3866426
Dynamic sketching goes after this stuff.

>>3866436
Why? Dynamic Sketching starts at zero too.
>>3866435
Sure you can, but the Drawabox is the shameless rip off version of the original

>>3866386
Lol actually practicing boxes this retarded way. Learn the basic rules of perspective and you'll be able to draw accurate boxes in your sleep.

>>3866440
What's the based and redpilled way of practicing?

>>3866443
Read something like "Perspective made easy" and you get the basics and don't need to draw 200 boxes

>>3866437
Dynamic sketching requires the ability of being able to see perspective (what lines go where and why), which you develop by grinding boxes (and later cylinders in boxes).

Tell me what's wrong with it. I'm a tard.

>>3866432
>>3866386
Okay I'm interested, what's with the boxes. Fill me in on this. If grinding cubes is the way to go them I'm open to your wisdoms padre, just take my mind home and teach it. I'm ready.

>>3866445
I did, it's nice for landscapes but I didn't really get a good understanding of 3 point perspective, clearly

>>3866426
just looked this up, looks great; is there a way to get all this shit for free?

>>3866453
it's on cg

>>3866440
>lol just use a ruler
Draw a box freehand without any vanishing points or rulers. Then check the perspective, and see how great you can do without those crutches. It's practically impossible to draw a perfect perspective by yourself, which is why studying it is so fucking hard, but also extremely important.

>>3866448
Look and compare

>>3866432
Doing 250 boxes in a row is a meme. Not that doing boxes is a meme, but the average /beg/gar will go into the 250 challenge and get spat out as unknowable on the other side just hating the box a lot more, potentially making the /beg/gar neglect the box all together moving forward because they've "completed" the 250 box challenge and figured they were just not a "box" person.
The box is probably the most effective tool in the artists arsenal.

>>3866458
I don't think anyone is autistic enough to only draw 250 boxes in a row without doing other stuff in the meantime. I think the best way to approach it is drawing like 20 nice boxes a day, and trying to use that experience in other stuff (like Loomis, he loves boxes).

>>3866454
yeah and it costs $699 there, the opposite of free

>>3866467
CGPeers is a torrent tracker.

>>3866464
It's funny you say that because I was fully prepared to do that. >>3866432 described me to a tee so now I'm trying to actually learn something after picking around for a year and not really knowing fundies as every redline I've ever gotten shows

>>3866421
I'll try not to be an ass here but Anon, for the love of god if you are using a direct reference then at least try to analyze what you are looking at.

How does one hold a rifle? What parts of the body are supporting it? Where does one look through the scope to aim? Where is the center of the weight? Where are the support points? How does it keep in balance? What happens when the gun is fired and the user gets a huge recoil?

And so on, a huge part of drawing is always "problem solving" (I can quote Vilppu on that directly) you have to know at least a bit about what you are drawing. S please look at your ref and analyze it, get up take out something similar like a pole or pipe and try to take a similar pose between a wall and chair to see how you would hold it then check your own limbs and posture. If you have a full body mirror or a phone then look at it in the mirror on yourself or snap a photo of yourself.

Okay? I know this had nothing to do with drawing but it is part of the course of learning.

>>3866421
Google and visualize why someone would lean forward befor firing

>>3866464
>I don't think anyone is autistic enough
Where do you think you are?

>>3866467
lurk more.

>>3866458

I actually think this post is important regardless of how someone might think it sounds.

Basically, the 250 box challenge is a really good idea if you can draw the boxes to begin with.

Some people, as assumed by this post, simply fulfill 250 mediocre, ill-perspective aligned boxes and didn't learn anything except for getting to that quota.

If your boxes suck, do not count them as apart of the 250. Instead, work on actually making good boxes in proper-ish perspective first. And, yes, as obsessively as the 250 challenge.

The grinding part in art is highly important and the most valuable part. Mileage and all. But if you're floundering around you're not moving a foot, let alone an eventual mile.

Learn your forms adequately and then start grinding. The idea of the grind is to make something, make mistakes, and know enough about what you've done to correct those mistakes so you get better the further along you're moving.

>>3866457
Better?

>>3866485
Better, but still not good/great.

>>3866468
>CGPeers
>Registration is currently Closed. (Opens for 48 hours on the 1st & 15th)

great, very good

>>3866481
also very helpful

>>3866421
>>3866472
this is not the same pose but similar maybe you can see it better on this.

>>3866491
shut the fuck up newfag, be glad someone replied and gave you advice you don't deserve shit.

>>3866491
NGMI

>>3866485
Overlap what you're trying to copy with your work to see the mistakes, you're way off.

>>3866421
Here's an idea - trace the gesture from the screenshot. Not the EVA itself or its lines, only its gesture (you can also compare that gesture to your art, and you'll see your mistakes). And then try to fill it in with the character.

Why is it some days I'll put out mega /beg/shit and other days I'll draw something nice enough for someone to ask for the blog I don't have?

>>3866504
Because you're beg. Consistency comes with practice.

>>3866497
>>3866500
thanks for giving me the name of a site that's not even active anymore, I really appreciate it, I don't deserve your guidance and I am very glad you replied

>>3866504
This may come as a surprise to you Anon but everyone has good days and bad days.

>>3866509
wtf I thought I was unique in this

Imagine being a beg shitter

>>3866508
>not active
wow what a retard

>>3866487
Yeah off the top of my head the top of his head looks wrong. But I'm not sure if that's the main issue. Jaw also looks very square compared to Loomis'. Again, I'm not sure if that's it.

>>3866483
Mind if I ask what the challenge is? Is it just simply doing boxes in perspective? Is pic related acceptable? I did use the softwares guidlines but I just want to know if it's the right idea. Also can't draw straight lines for shit. Especially not when I'm trying to follow an accurate line.

>>3866501
Thanks man I'll give it a go and prepare to cry.

>>3866534
The goal of it is to draw straight lines that form a box in the correct perspective. If you can't draw straight lines then you are not ready to draw a box.

>>3866534
The 250 box challenge comes from drawabox.com , specifically at the end of Lesson 1.

>>3866483
>Some people, as assumed by this post, simply fulfill 250 mediocre, ill-perspective aligned boxes and didn't learn anything except for getting to that quota.
Anyone who wants to do the challenge should go through the entire first lesson of Drawabox first. It would teach them everything they need to know before grinding.

i always thought that the cgpeers registration window was pointless, but today i learned that it's actually extremely effective at keeping out retards like >>3866508

>>3866534

Yeah, as stated from another reply, it's a drawabox.com exercise. Well. Challenge.

The idea behind drawabox/Dynamic Sketching is to run you through fundamentals in art and get you rolling. It's not a comprehensive all in one, but it's momentum.

Anyway, the idea is to be able to draw the boxes accurately by your free hand. Not for the sake of being "perfect" (though that would be fucking nice, right??) but to be able to identify perspective on a subject by sight and estimate it.

Since, naturally, you won't always have a ruler.

And forms in perspective are the foundation of drawing anything with a 3 dimensional feeling and essential for putting the figures, animals, whatever into proper space on the page.

It works out pretty well.

>>3866553
after looking it up all I can find is people saying that it's closed indefinitely

>tfw at uni so couldn't pirate dynamic sketching even if I wanted to

>>3866554
>>3866536
>>3866537

Thanks guys. Guess I'm finally going to bite the bullet and go through with it.

Wish me luck

Imagine drawing lines and boxes all day because you're too retarded to already do it
Have fun with that

>>3866568
imagine being a crab
Or better yet, some autist out of the bucket who taunts people trying to get out

>>3866564
What's a seedbox?
What's a VPN?

>>3866572
I have a vpn but I'm afraid of using it to pirate

Reiterating my question from last thread, is tracing a drawing on paper with a software wprth the time it takes?

>>3866576

>>3866402
Thank you so much anon, I'm glad you like my work,,,,

>>3866566

It'll suck, but it's worth it.

The fundamentals are fucking hard as shit. People are deceptive about it. If they were easy, we'd all be zipping around.

Well. They're simple, so they're "hard", but you do have to work really hard at mastering them. I haven't mastered them, but working on them has made my artwork in general much better.

Just be like, draw your fundies, and do your fun/visual drawings. Return to your fundies. Repeat. You'll start applying and seeing where applying the things you're learning is going to help in the overall process.

Do your thing!

>>3866566

Is my anatomy correct
I added the fist so idk

>>3866613
Looks like an incredibly shitty trace job of a designdoll.

How do I make this not look like a mass of lines

Also how do I convey the curvature of the apple, it's got sharp curves at the bottom

>>3866613
>>3866619
Lel yah I sketch in a weird way and del the construction lines
>he thinks its too enough to be traced

>>3866612
>>3866603
Thanks guys. Going through the introduction now. Watched the 30 minute video and now reading about 'why pens'.

Not sure if this guy sounds like he's trying to sell me a used car, life insurance or if his words are actually the considered wisdom they come across as.

Will definitely push on. Trying to take this in on 2 hours of sleep is probably not the best way to go about it though.

Good night guys. You two and the others that have put me on this path. I appreciate it and you're cool people so feel cool.

>>3866613
I couldn't even wrap my head around how to get something like this down on paper. Looks nice.

>>3866631
Tenk fellow beg
My references

>>3866633
Yikes.

>>3866633
You need better reference, that mannequin looks very unnatural. Also you chose a wrong ref for the hand, you're looking at it from the downside, not frontside.

>you're looking at it from the downside, not frontside
I agree kinda noticed it too but I was like fuc it,


Tenk

>>3866648
>>3866658
Forgot to quote

>>3866626
Redraw with better shape, appreciate input on which you prefer

>>3866667
Stop making lines like a psycho .

>>3866633
Can you imagine how huge the head is if this is the size of it foreshortened?

>switch to using krita
>tablet won't work

>>3866681
Have you tried turning your pc off and on again mam?

what should I do after finishing Keys to Drawing and Perspective Made Easy?
Dynamic Sketching, Draw a Box, Fun With a Pencil?

DS looks good but I heard there's not much on creating organic forms, something about a fish

>>3866686
yeah. i also googled the issue and it turns out xp pens are varied. welp.

>>3866693
https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/list_supported_tablets.html

>>3866691
also this has gotta be a joke, there's no fucking way they expect me to go to all sorts of museums to copy stuff from life right?

>>3866691

Yes. Any of those sources and a mix of all of them. They all cover the idea of making objects in perspective, placing them, and using them to construct other, more complex things.

Dynamic with Peter Han is pretty entertaining. His thing is like, lessons with assignments once a week. You can follow that and just go through the others at your pace while you are.

Fun With A Pencil gets you right into it, Drawabox follows Han's stuff with more info included, and Han is... Han. He's good for a live demo, I can say that. But, yeah, a little short on specific info.

>>3866695
found it when i ran the google search. well this blows. i really like the program, too.

>>3866668
¿Wot?

>>3866705
He means draw lines in one stroke, to avoid the erratic/hairy lines. If it sucks, erase it and try again.

>>3866701
You must be joking, the "explanations" of the Drawabox guy are not only boring compared to Han but also plain false sometimes.

critique? am I being retarded?

Do you actually have to find real-life reference for Keys for Drawing (like when they tell you to ask someone to pose), or would some Internet material suffice?

How do you get over the fear of posting your art? I mean like I want criticism but the thought of not even deserving criticism is constantly looming. How do those super bad artist on most art sites do it without shame?

>>3866748
>How do you get over the fear of posting your art?
here is 40 minute vid from yesterday talking about the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9lLg4yLzXg

>>3866748
I can't really answer your question since it's something I struggle with too, but I wanted to say that if that is your art I honestly see a lot of potential in you. It's not super great but I see attempts at understanding form, and while I don't know how long it'll take you, I want you to know that I believe you'll be very good one day.

>>3866750
I'll check it out

>>3866754
I think it took me around 2-3 hours.

how to color? I can't do it
doing studies feels impossible
it all seems insurmountable

>>3866772
Watch the "understanding color" video that should help with the basic theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1FK8n7WgY

>>3866776
>culluls
got a video by someone who doesn't talk like they're gargling marbles?

>>3866778
maybe you could read a book

>>3866782
any recommendations? sorry but that guy's voice is just the fucking worst

>>3866784
try Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter by James Gurney. you'll find it in the artbooks thread. it gets recommended a lot around here, and for good reason too, i think.

>>3866787
thanks anon, I'll take a look

>>3866748
>How do you get over the fear of posting your art?
What's the point tho? I have a few doodles I made for fun in-between practice but I've been drawing for like a week so I don't understand anything yet.
It's pointless to request critique on stuff like this because literally everything is fucked and I can see that quite well, that's why I need to work hard on those fundies.
>How do those super bad artist on most art sites do it without shame?
They're mostly young children. Or at least I hope they are.

>>3866748
These kind of people never get criticized, that's why they are able to post.
As for you, don't be a retard and post your shit. You're here to get better, so be better.

some more imagination heads bc i don't feel comfortable with using refs atm. aside from the wonkyness, anything (features? like i know i need to work on eyes/ears still) wrong?

can someone post some of those “how to get good at drawing” images? i want to read some new books

>>3866874
also trying to catch myself when i chicken scratch. also x2 i didnt realize how big i had set the canvas. lmao whoops

>>3866875

Help plz.

i'm trying to redraw old stuff from the beginning of the year

>>3866885
Why is Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain never in these guide lists.

>>3866929
supposedly it's full of pseudo quackery mumbo jumbo talk from the author, whereas Keys is more practical

>>3866885
Keys to Drawing is kinda weird imo. A lot of things it teaches relate only to traditional art, and it expects you to draw real people and real objects like it's a textbook to be used in actual art classes. Not sure if it's something essential to the modern hobbyists.

>>3866929
keys >>>> right side

>>3866946
so I'm not the only one then, fuck, I just went through chapter 3 which covered sighting techniques and such and it's been boring me to tears and driving me nuts since I have to use references, which are never as good as the real deal

it's definitely useful for drawing what you see, but yeah I see exactly what you mean
is there a better book for an absolute beginner? I was thinking of Perspective Made Easy and Fun With a Pencil after this, and then something like DAB or Dynamic Sketching

Just drew my gf, do I have potential?

>>3866508
try CGpersia DS is direct download there

>>3866960
if I had the skill, time and energy I'd make a Ludwig edit of this with a pencil instead of the Moonlight sword

>>3866772
Make a canvas the size of a business card and drop in basic color. Zoom in a bit and add some more. Wala, color.

>>3866893
Only sketch on notebook paper I'll say I like. Just because I feel bad it's a composition book.

>>3866958
>it's been boring me to tears and driving me nuts since I have to use references, which are never as good as the real deal
That's the problem. It wants you to draw real stuff in a serious academic environment, kinda like those infamous fruit painting exercises people do in art schools. Sure, it teaches you important things, but for someone who only works in their room alone on what's basically comic book art, and wants to do digital later anyway - the whole thing feels kinda counterproductive.
You should still read it (it does teach you important concepts overall), but I suggest focusing your attention more on Loomis - his ideas should be more interesting to you.
And yes, you will screw up with those heads in Fun with a Pencil, don't get discouraged and just move on. Rome wasn't built in a day.

>>3866977
Basic still lives are the bread and butter of not being shit. Go outside and draw some trees.

>>3866989
>Go outside

>>3866890

I'm gathering that your intention is to make an egg form, but could you be more precise when the method is losing you?

The more specific you are with the step you're lost on or the last one before you're lost would help.

Cause, the method is easy. You're not plotting any lines, it seems.

... Okay, I mean, you've obviously got the plans and the grids made, but at that point you should be using the grids to plot where your lines are going to be in space and the connecting them line a connect-the-dots ordeal.

So I just found out figure drawing and gesture drawing are not exactly the same thing. I'm now doing 2 minutes poses because I don't feel I'm getting much out of the 30 seconds ones, and tried to do it drawing the form (but still fail at conveying 'the movement') instead of building a stick man, adding three balls and working over it. I think I managed to improve proportions this way.

Wanted to go a bit farther than sketches since they're all I've been doing during the last days and last pic happened. I was afraid to fuck it up going with darker values for some shadows but I'll consider it next time, I also tried to pay attention to negative space but still ended up giving her a rather big torso, I think.

I appreciate your critiques.

>>3866960
Okay I tried again guys, is this better?

>>3867013
Here's the ref btw

>>3867015
your lines are pretty good, you just need to stop symbol drawing, and Loomis

Here's a task that >>3865972 suggested me to do

It was fun at least

>>3867093
ref

attempted to draw. how do I get rid of symbol drawing?

>>3867097
there are two way
-carefully measure and block in shape correctly (draw what you see)
-understand the ref and draw its structure ( construction)

well dunno what to say but here is it

>>3866633
Stop trying to use shortcuts and learn how to drawing from observation.

how do i into lighting

>>3867125

>>3867142
Think in 3d.

>>3867142
just follow the shape of her hair how is that even a question, or do you mean the coloring processes, for that kind of style is better flat colors/celshading

>>3867148
>how is that even a question
alcohol

>flat colors/celshading
oh, well, i should've just kept it flat then.

>>3867147
ok

>>3866874

Retard here, is just drawing a ton the best thing to do as a beginner? I've been trying to work through keys to drawing but most of the book seems to be pages of exposition about a technique that could be adequately described in a paragraph.

>>3867160
i need to use refs. f

Not mine, it's my little sister's. She wants to know if her anatomy is correct and other stuff. (though I know nothing about these kinds of things.)

Some sketches ive been doing

>>3867184
Think of the ribs more egg shaped than oval shaped.

>>3867177
Thanks for making me have to turn my head around.
Anyway, I think the thighs are too wide. Face doesn't look as happy as the image suggests she should be.

>>3867163
draw shapes go to drawabox.com the reason is so you can see/understand shapes/planes which will make it easier to see the forms of everything, and also will help you to no symbol drawing

>>3867184
can feel the form but the proportion is pretty wack in some part
did you do this from imagination ?

>>3867192
i was trying to do that, looks like i cant do it yet, the wider part needs to be the bottom one right?

>>3867204
i wish, i was just copying some poses from a manga

>>3867211
you disappoint me son

>>3867211
yeah, though it can be varied, like most bodies are

>>3867141
Where can I get this book??? Will it help me do still lifes?

>tfw always feel like I don't have enough space on faces
it's a weird problem

>>3866327
Can I get a critique?

Some birb studies to practice construction

Okau switched to trad and feel like maybe this is a bit of a huge step in the wrong direction. I need to stop trying to draw from imag and actually use refs. Oh and not drink and draw. Or just fucking kms. All three work.

>>3867216
alright thanks

>>3867225
It's because you're drawing the eyes very large. Plus your structure seems off.

You can draw in anime style, but you still make sure facial features and head are still somewhat correct for existing in a 3D space.

>>3867265
>
please dont try to teach the /beg/s this neo-degenerate art style.
Thank you.

>>3867268
It's not about style, it's about the features fitting on the face.

>>3867273
He needs anatomy.
Its a cartoon so the features can look howewer they want them to be, see anime.

>>3867097
Imagine your completely unfamiliar with the subject, turn the subject upside down

>>3867221
B ok.org

>>3866386
Start with 1 point perspective, then 2 then 3.

Absolute beginner and brainlet that just finished reading the sticky here. From what I understood I should start with Keys To Drawing right?

>>3866626
Looks like youre using too much wrist m8. Lock your wrists and utilize more of your arm to make more comfident strokes. Rotate your paper too.

>>3866960
Are you from Japan? Cause that seriously reminded me of this

>>3867142
start bay making the background darker than pure white. It will help trust me.

>>3867142
Draw your own shit.

Started off drawing the head as a joke, and then I noticed the eye on the right looked like Saitama, so I did this. Don't really have anyone else to share it to

>>3867277
He's right, though. Stylized as anime is, it still needs structure. Unlike western calart cartoons, anime characters are simply just modified human bodies which take up 3D space, therefore construction and a ripe understanding of structure is needed.

I never finished this but tell me what's up.

>>3867216
Wait what the fuck? Has that thing under the sternum always been there? I never noticed until now.

>>3867446
This looks nice
I've done fun with a pencil but is there a loomis equivalent for dumb animefags?

>>3867563
roomis

>>3867565

>>3867563
You can use Loomis for Anime.

>>3866923
Bretty good improvement in such a short time Anon. Pay attention to drawing hands, the more detailed you get the more the small errors will start to pop.

Thoughts?

>>3866923
How long have you been at it? 3-4 year?

>>3867599
It's an ear alright. The rendering could be nicer.

Anyone got tips on a choking/squeezing effect?

>>3867601
I've been drawing "seriously" for two years now making webcomics. I'd like to publish a graphic novel or something in the future, which is why i'm trying to up my game since i had an art depression and burnout last December

>>3867580
You're right. I need to pay attention to that and find a good equilibrium between style and details.

>>3867613
if you’re going for a cartoony effect, make the eyes bulge, the head swell, and make the throat squeezed super tight. a few “shaking lines” might work also.

>>3866327

I dare say that my soldier could have been worse

does the head shape look alright? can't tell if it's wonky or not
also how the fuck do i draw eyelashes, they look like shit no matter what i do

>>3867613
5hink in 3D

>>3867701
The head is fine I think but that ear is way too small. Look at a picture of real eyes and notice how they kind of clump together. Long, individual lashes don't look so good. Draw the lashes as a single stroke or something. I don't know how to say it. Do you watch Mikeymegamega?

>>3867701
the head/skull is too small and the eyes are fucked, ear is too far in the back

>>3867703
saw one of his videos yesterday which inspired me, haven't drawn anything in like 6 years
>Draw the lashes as a single stroke or something
like all lashes as a single line?

>>3867563
There really isn't, as soon as you're done picking up basic understanding of construction and got decent at constructing figures you throw yourself right into your favorite japanese book/artist to steal their appeal points. Learning to stylize your drawings is the most fun part.

>>3867446
I had assumed that eyes are supposed to be equidistant from that red separating guideline he drew down the middle. If that's not the case, how do you determine where the eyes should be?

>>3866923
i was worried that right one was newer, its pretty good now, i would only say that new ones hair look a bit flat, they look like jewish cap

What constitutes symbol drawing and how can you tell if someone is doing it by looking at one of their drawings? Can someone please give an example of symbol drawing vs non-symbol drawing?

>>3867728
the eyes are positioned a bit further inside the skull than the red line

>>3867781
That helps, ty.

>>3867701

literally think in 3d, you are forming a mental idea on how do you think it looks instead of thinking on how it should be based on your fundies/reality

like when you see certain things on clouds, it's because your brain associate certain figures with things that look similar, so your brains thinks this looks like a face tilted(symbol drawing), instead of forming a mental construction based on what you know


this is not perfect but i hope you get what im saying

>>3867701
It's wonky. Especially the eye area.

>>3866327
Well /ic/?

>>3867798
Underwhelming.

My productivity went into the dumpster once more and this is where I am like, what? Two three threads later? I did shitty sketches inbetween instead of finishing this.

>>3867789
pic is extremely helpful
thanks

>>3866923
Keep it up senpai

>>3867863
I'm already tired of looking at this.

>>3867863
Ok, this is as far as I‘ll go. Attempting to shade this would turn it into even more of an eyesore.

>>3866923
I like how those dates could also imply her progress at the gym

i will copy and study this book everyday, slowly
i had bad habbit which not drawing every day,
yes drawing everyday is important

even i can't draw many page in that day, i will draw every day, do realistic practice, not a planning unrealistic amount

>>3867774
anyone? /ic/ keeps talking about symbol drawing

>>3867577
I googled "loomis for anime" and I thought I should share what I found.

>>3867935
>>3867789

>>3867936

>>3867936
>>3867938
Are you trying to prove some point? I don't get it

>>3867940
No I just thought it was funny

>>3867938
>>3867940
No they're from the same thread long ago.

>>3867934
Join DAD then anon

gave up on this one >>3867701 and just started from scratch on a new one
are the eyes any better?
hair is hard

>>3867701
The ear seems out of place

>>3867577

>>3867577

>>3867958
>>3867954
I gave up on Loomis when he wrote about the ugly blooks.
Looks like I got memed

>>3867967
Congratulation you memed yourself.

>>3867950
Definitely an improvement in my shitter opinion

>>3867967
He only does blooks for like a few pages before introducing the ball and plane anyway, you couldnt have scanned ahead?

>>3867967
If you had read the introduction of the book you'd have realized "blooks" is a synonym for the core idea of the book.

>>3867967
>I gave up on Loomis when he wrote about the ugly blooks.
So you gave up on Loomis on the first two fucking pages? Draw those fucking blooks, they're very simple and they will teach you how to place features on the head without everything looking flat and ugly (because they will look flat and ugly unless you figure out how to see the ball as a 3D object). Loomis used those blooks because they're human heads stripped down to absolute bare minimum - no need to worry about skull shape, eyes or anatomy, just learn how to place the features onto a ball.

started learning from a udemy course brehs

>>3867883
Thank you famalam. I'll do my best to improve every day.

>>3868021
>udemy course
It's all a big pile of trash.
Learn the fundamentals instead.

does Drawing the Head and Hands by Loomis even have exercises for you to follow, or is it all information?
I skimmed through it all and it seems very different to something like Keys

are all Loomis books like that?

>>3868028
That book was made for intermediate artists.

>>3867934
Which book, Hampton?

>>3868028
From my experience most drawing books will be like the Loomis' ones, with just the information and without proposed exercises. Just the beginner oriented ones will have them, like Keys, Drawing on The Right Side and Perspective Made Easy

>>3868021
>trusting a site that has it's courses on sale 95% of the time.

>>3868028
It's a big boy book.

>>3867942
kek

>>3867967
I remember some anon saying Loomis is like occult knowledge hidden in plain sight.

>>3866327

>>3868028

No assignments. Well, Fun With A Pencil pulls you along because that's the intent.

Think of the others as supplemental material to your own private studies. They're reference books with methods in them.

The idea is that you read the books, draw from the information/lessons, and apply them to drawing from other sources like life or references. Then you check back to the book's information and see where to improve.

Which is where posting your actual work is important. If you do it alone, your growth will be slower unless you're highly critical and accurate in those criticisms.

A second and third and sometimes unwarrented fourth opinion questioning your sexuality is very helpful to look at what you did from another perspective.

>>3867954
>my rule of thumb: the space between eyes is one eye
That's literally what Loomis says in Fun with a Pencil.

>>3868080
>questioning your sexuality is very helpful
nigga what

>>3868105

It's a joke, my dude. Just ignore it.

Be gentle, im a virgin

I've never drawn in this style before and i'm working on a graphic for a friend

Any input? I don't usually draw in anime style, and I was hoping to make it look a little "old school"

>>3868263
looks very flat
check out Loomis

How the fuck do you start a study? Are you supposed to sketch first and then paint over it or what? Every single thing I watch feels like
>look carefully at your subject
>and now you've finished your study, so thank you for watching my tutorial! please like, favorite and subscribe, and don't forget to ring that bell!
Am I supposed to block in big chunks of color and give up on lines entirely? I don't understand how do give anything form without lines.

>>3868291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIr2SmilLj8

>>3868263
Looks pretty good, but the mouth looks a bit misaligned.

>>3868283
nice meme

>>3868295
thanks, i wasn't so sure about the mouth
i'll move it around and re-post it

>>3868291
There's no one way.

>tfw can't even get those drawabox superimposed lines to look right
I either got extremely memed or i'm just never gonna make it

>go to do some actual practice at the end of a long wageslave day
>feel too tired and just doodle stupid shit that won't help me improve

JUST

>>3868263
I did simillar stuff too, anime has completly different porpotions every decade (i have good meory about 2000's so i choose this)

But i think it's not good practice, because some of part are inaccurate
So i'm not gonna do it anymore it's pointless to me

>>3868315
Just continue practicing them. Of course you won't be able to do any of it on the first try if you never did it before. That's why drawabox is good for /beg/s - it teaches you the most basic stuff that no other book (not even Loomis) mentions because it's not something too useful for people who don't plan on making serious art, and those are the primary audience for beginner drawing books.

Hey, I can actually draw an anime head that doesn't make me want to throw up at the first glance. It's still fucked beyond belief, but I think I'm finally making small progress. Maybe in a few months I will actually be able to make something presentable.

>>3868378
Not bad at all!
If you're at the level where you still have that serious lack of confidence, I wouldn't worry about coloring or rendering much, just focusing on sketching lots of heads. You don't have to go super fast but don't dwell on them either, just draw the lineart for a head, observe what you can do better next time, and then move on.

>>3868331
All psychological. I work a pretty stressful job and my commute totals about 2 hours every day, and I can still put in 3 hours of drawing on weekdays when I don't bitch out. There's no special trick, you just have to do it.

Ah what the fuck why can't I draw. No matter what I just can't draw anything well. I can get a basic sketch of something at best, but literally can't add any semblance of detail to it without it turning into utter garbage.

>>3868399
What kind of detail are you talking about, Anon?

This was extremely difficult until near the very end, but I'm proud that I finished it. One thing I noticed is my darks should be darker, is there anything else?

>>3868404
it looks good for what it looks like you were going for. if i had to change something, i would have more contrast with the shading, but i think thats what you were saying.

meh

>>3868401
My main goal is to be able to draw people, but it applies to anything. When I used to paint I couldn't get past the basic shapes of things, I just can't add detail. Now I just fail with anything past eyes.

I'm a trying my best, I request humbly some feedback about how to improve. Is anyone familiar with this style of drawimg?

>>3868411
I think it's a lack of knowledge in anatomy. They have their own forms, and when you paint these forms affected by light, the detail should come by itself. You can also use something other than hard round to make micro details if you want. A lot of people fake details, too. Like pic related uses screentones and a few lines to imply detail. There's also "real" detail, like erosion of different kinds of rocks, so you could gather references of rock types and study them.

After reading loomis, what should I read next?

>>3868483
Vilppu

I think I learned a lot doing this one

Here you go what do you think?

>>3866337
That's a good frog. Why is it standing on a wall?

I feel like i'm often trying to force perspective in an effort to avoid parallel lines during this box challenge
I guess that's the point, right?

>>3867967
No anon, it is you who are the meme.

>>3867909

>>3867679
I like the expressiveness of your characters. Learn to draw 3d objects plz.

>>3867507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ4kLYi2aU

>>3867248
keep drinking unless you blackout a lot in which case you should probs accept jesus or something. And read loomis or draw-a-box or something.

If i'm okay with drawing boxes on paper with a pencil but cannot do it with an iPad + pencil, is it just that I should get used to digital or that I most likely should keep at pencil+paper for longer

2nd shitty attempt with charcoal

>>3868624
soul

>>3866613
Just fix the back and the hip line

>>3866613
make ass bigger

entered a nihilist depression 6-7 years ago, my art has been lifeless since then

Any tips for doing studies of smaller images? I can't seem to stop my brain from reverting to symbol drawing when I can't zoom in

>>3868648
subscribed

im trying to be autodidact

>>3868648
lol meant months
>>3868668
make sure to check out my patreon for exclusive (tm) content (tm)

How good is this book next to Loomis?

>>3868662
What is symbol drawing? Also I second this question.

>>3868512
If you colored this scene, would you die?

new at this, trying to unlearn some bad habits. any advice welcome

>>3868795
Loomis doesn't stand a chance.

>>3868795
this book both taught me how to draw the face as well as how to pick up women and get laid with more efficiency than a liberal giving out gay frog vaccinations

it was the best man at my wedding

11/10, would recommend

>>3868404
I liked this a lot. For how long have you been doing digital painting, anon? Do you use a tablet with or without a screen?

I'm just a lousy /beg/ so forgive me if this is not the kind of criticism you were looking for. I think the nose looks a bit odd since it's angled closer to a vertical line than in pic on the left, which makes it look longer than it is. The eyes and eyebrows looked more spaced on your drawing. I actually like it better that way, but thought I'd mention it.

I want to try my hand at digital drawing/painting in the near future but I'm not sure if I could jump right in or if I should learn traditional drawing first. I'd like to avoid traditional painting since it seems a rather expensive hobby. How did you go about? I'd also appreciate anyone else's input on this.

How's this little fellas? Ignoring the feet on the right guy, I realized a tad too late that he wasn't at the same ground level as the kid and freaked out.

>>3868909
Posting the shaded one but I think it looks worse. I think I messed up the reflection on the adult, he should have been cleaner on the right side since it's facing light

>>3867909
You get the basics of 3D forms, alright, cool. Move on to stylizing your drawings already because they look unappealing as fuck.

>>3868472
Why the fuck do you need to draw like 5 lines to just pull a single, straight, and short line? Those are fucking simple shapes, yet you fail at drawing it so badly. On the other hand, the head, which is a more complex shape looks much cleaner. Did you trace it?

>>3868809
>>3867789
Learn to fucking read the thread you idiot.

>>3868926
Ah, yes. My mistake for missing a single, poorly lighted post in a sea of 300+ posts. I am sure that you, the infallible deity of online browsing, has never missed a single detail in his entire life.

You remind me of those base retards from MMOs who get mad at people for making mistakes, but always get offended and defensive when they themselves are called out for their mistakes. Don't worry, none of us are truly perfect. It's alright if your brain is stunted from its neglect. Thanks for helping me though, bitch. Get me some coffee while you're at it.

>>3868819
>new at this

Is the perspective weird ? crit

>>3869017
Yeah it looks odd.

how is this aside from the eye, nose to chin ratio, and the head top? will post ref in next post

>>3869054

>>3869054
>aside from the eye, nose to chin ratio, and the head top
What's left?

>>3869054
to smart

>>3869054
Everything's fucked, continue practicing.

New thread where ?

what am I doing wrong anons?

>>3869256
That which you don't like about it.

>>3869317
Good advice.

>>3869154
NEW THREAD up!

>>3869320

>>3868911
I hope you are not mad for this. I feel like such a bad person...

>>3869324
Lol great job OP

>>3869324
>beat me to it

shame, I was gonna use this

>>3869330
Sorry Anon use it next time!

>>3868922
no, I did not trace the head. I used a circle to map it out. Can you give me some pointers please.

>>3868536
this is very cool, can you post more/similar?

>>3868977
thanks i guess

>>3868512
Bane?

I drew something but It's so bad I'm ashamed to post it

>>3870070
Come on post it, you can't improve without some critique.

how am I doing

Just learned how to shade properly. How's this?
Could a cylinder be lit like this if it was really smooth and not very reflective?