/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3804861
living the dream

>>3804861
At least they "made it", but at what cost.

>>3804861
$5000

what the fuck? That's 10 times more than sakimichan's rates.

Tell me at least that's just a demo and he actually draws something new if you pay.

>>3804861
5000$ for a sketch? Who would pay this much for a sketch like that?
You can get full color character illustrations at the same skill level for around 50$.

>>3804868
Finished art looks like this

>>3804873
Sakimichan charges 10 times LESS.

Let that sink in.

>>3804873
>Who would pay this much for a sketch like that?

An idiot. Luckily for that artist, there are a lot of them in the furry community.

I admire the balls. Things are only worth what you sell them for, and his art is worth a lot to a few idiots.

>>3804868
>>3804873
The whole thing about a "YCH (your character here)" is that someone pays to have their character either painted or drawn in the place of the placeholder, the finished piece tend to look better. Still, 5000$ is absurd.

MilesDF is the Supreme of the furry fandom

>>3804879
Why would anyone do this? It's basically just a coloring template - you could just snatch the sketch and fill in your OCs colors yourself. This is beyond retarded, especially since the finished pieces >>3804875 aren't in any way impressive. It's run of the mill furry shit. So how are ppl paying so much for this? Is the creator well known? Is it a status symbol to get a drawing from this person? A prestige object? The ferrari among the furry porn commissions?

Did I also mention that he has a Patreon with over 1,000 patrons at a minimum of $5 a month and up to $50 a month

>>3804892
Pretty much, most furries are beyond autistic and will spend any amount of money to get their clusterfuck of a character drawn by some big name furry artist. It doesn't even matter whether your art is good, it's mostly about how much cock you can suck and how many connections you can make.

Erebun sold an adoptable design for $21k

I just got my tax return of $5000. There is NO FUCKING WAY people are paying five grand. I refuse to believe that. Fucking brilliant paintings in real life that are 100 years old cost that much. There is no fucking way in HELL people are paying this. I refuse to believe this ruse.

>>3804875
Damn this is pretty good.

>>3804861
MilesDF is pretty good and very popular. It's really not -that- big of a surprise.

Also stop opening dumb threads out of envy.

>>3804942
5000$ nigger, 5 followed by three 0's, in dollars. You could buy 83 AAA priced games for that.

>>3804943
>uses games for valuing stuff
GTFO kid.

>>3804861
good, I'm glad there's a market for art and I hope we can all make a living off it someday instead of just being jealous

>>3804921
Autists become very wealthy engineers/programmers/ etc. They dont have a social life to spend money on and they dont go out and by 40,000 dollar vehicles. They like furshit and they spend their autism bucks on furshit.

Imagine what you would spend your money on if you were given a million dollars, its probably somw dope shit. They just buy furry porn instead.

>>3804892
>The ferrari among the furry porn commissions?
Yes.

>>3804957
I'm just saying that you could buy hours upon hours of entertainment instead of a single picture for 5000$

>>3804972
It’s almost like you don’t value paintings.

>>3804982
Not when it's of this quality and 5000$.

>>3804972
>>3804987
It doesn't really matter what you or I think. It's basic economics. If people are willing to pay a certain amount for something, then that's the price of said thing.

>>3805001
True, but it's still ridiculous that someone would spend 5k for such a simple piece. But I'm not the arbiter of what gets sold or not.

>>3804940
No, it isn't, and I hope someday you'll get good enough to see that as well.

>>3805018
Well lets see your $5,000 piece.

>>3805033
im not the guy you're talking to but this has to be the most autistic response you could have possibly came up with

>>3805008
Extravagant people with a lot of cash aren't a myth. That's all there is to it.

>>3804861
Well, I don't see the problem here. It's a regular ol' furshit YCH, what can possibly be so ba-
>$5000
OH MY GOODNESS

>>3804943
Teen spotted, please leave

>>3804861
It’s all about popularity and personality. Can’t wait to see how many tards on here waste their time making a ych only to fail miserably.

>>3805033
Am that guy

Sure, miles is better than me, that's why I decided to make a study of his style. What makes it appealing and why?

I learned it's all simple forms shaded prettily. This makes sorting out his head/face shapes incredibly easy. I do like the ways he renders renders natural backgrounds, like his heads it is easy to decipher the methods for a pleasing effect.

On the other hand. The bodies I found were incredibly lacking anatomically making them worthless to study. His paws kinda suck balls lacking delicious pawpads, and the hindpaws are sometimes weirdly shaped. The hair looks like a foam hat. The clothes simply extra thickness on top of the already defined body shapes. Also it bothers me it's just shiny skin and never any real hint of fur, makes me think they are people are wearing latex body suits.

>>3804892
SALT
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>>3805076
>>3805018

>>3804875
>>3804861
>people pay incredibly high prices for popular artists
No shit, also that's MDF who's style is actually shockingly influential in the furry community.
There's a ton of artists that spawned trying to copy his rendering, more than I've seen for any other digital artist literally ever.

His stuff is basically a brand now faggot furries clamour to get

>5 Grand
nope. I don’t think these autists know what luxury art pieces you can fucking buy for 5 grand. Are they this fucking retarded??? 5 GRAND!? where do they even get five grand?

>>3805134
>he doesn't have more than 5k+ in savings and nothing else to spend it on

>>3805135
I have five grand but I have an addiction to buy victorian oil paintings. Lest no matter the addiction I don’t touch my cash reserve

>>3805134
I think he allows 7 month payment plans. Not unreasonable. The commissioner probably would rather have a popular artist (probably their favorite artist) than spend that money on gifts/trips/dinners at restaurants that month. I mean the commissioner could be very wealthy too. Even upper middle class men have enough money to drop 2k a month on a sugar baby, why is 700 so ridiculous to you?

>>3805101
>>3805096
>We have no actual arguments so we must MEEEEEEEEEEME

>>3804921
basically >>3804962
I'm basic in that realm without the autism. I have a relatively decent job, not top 1% or anything, but I make enough to save a few thousand a month.

but at the same time I really have no money sinking hobbies or social life, so it just saves up. So when I see things I like I just buy them regardless of how much the price tag, and if its something I really want I just get the best I can find. so I drop money on things like nice drawing tablets even though I don't really need them just because i might as well get something quality for my hobby and its a 1 time price.

>>3804875
His art is a little weird. It's as if his drawings are made of plastic rather than having fur.

>>3804943
>AAA games

>>3804943
>that point of reference
lol fag

>>3804861

>>3805142
>art is so expensive he has a payment plan
This meme has gone too far

>>3805331
That's how it has worked for every other thing in the economy. It just so happens demand for his artwork is so high the only way to get them out of his way is to jack up the prices and he still has demand. Just economics in the works.

>>3804918
no way

>>3804918
How does an artist not go crazy when someone loves their art so much, they'll go to such depths to pay this much for it? That's too much power for one person to have.

>>3804861
Its incredible how much you can exploit a niche of autists

>>3805342
I mean there’s so many celebs and youtubers who have the same amount of power over their fans. It’s just what fame does to someone.

>>3804879
And here I thought it was a currency.

>>3804861
NGL that's a pretty fucking hot furry

>>3804921
Anon there are Twitch streamers, MALE twitch streamers, who got something like 65000 dollars worth of DONATIONS from a SINGLE person. At least these furries are paying money for something, people fucking donate thousands to streamers just to be on top of the donator rankings.

>>3804943
A more apt comparison is that you could buy an original oil painting by Brom for that much money.

>>3805430
Is Entertainment truly the best industry to get into?

>start drawing because furfag
>end up preferring to draw humans instead
What does it mean lads

>>3805441
You realized the greater creation.

petition this nigger off of FA. He is kissing your ass for 5g making emotional people feel happy for a price when you can get the same quality for less from other artists

>>3805440
I mean technically you have better chances at becoming a rockstar or a top football player than a twitch streamer, there's a literal handful of them that rake in this amount of dough.

>>3805441
>enjoy drawing anthros a whole lot
>my drawings are the complete opposite of what would sell in the furry community, with rough textural lines/colors like children's books, and the characters are cute but in a completely non sexual way.

>>3804861
i really like miles art style. is it over priced? fuck yes. does he deserve hate for charging 5k for 1 commission? no, if he feels that he needs to sell his work for that much (which is probably to lower his workload) then he can.

>>3804906
>implying that prices for non-furry art are in anyway not dependant on an artist's popularity.

>>3804906
Most of the really popular furry artists are pretty damn good at what they do.

>>3805448
Cant put a price on happiness.

>>3805465
>tfw will never make anyone happy

>>3805460
I find artist like milesDF pale in comparison to non popufur artist

>>3805449
>with rough textural lines/colors like children's books, and the characters are cute but in a completely non sexual way.

Then you can market them as "funny animals" and get some mainstream success.

>>3805471
Uhm no, funny animals are literal animals standing upright like pic related. Mine are still anthros, they're just not sexualized.

>>3805479
just post your work ffs

>>3805485

Yes I agree.

>>3805485
>>3805495
aight here's a sketch
I'm shy

>>3805499
I'm surprised, not going to lie I expected shit. You have some talent it's true.

>>3805499
>this wouldnt sell to the furry community
people who don't understand the furry mindset and just want to draw furry characters for the money are the scum of the earth and the ultimate low iq mongoloids

>>3805506
>making money off a bunch of idiots who care more about some popularity contest than making their "community" good
More power to them, all you need to understand are that furries are stupid and willing to throw money at anything anthro especially if it's fat, gay, colorful or all of the above.

>>3805499
Wow, somebody actually posted work. Even more amazing is it doesn't suck.

>>3805503
>>3805511
Thanks, here's another tiny sketcho

I wanted to make a retro sci-fi adventure comic with these anthros but there was no response

>>3805509
I’m sorry but this is definitely not true at all. To anyone that thinks they will see even a fraction of fame/money as the op artist by drawing anthro, you won’t. There are so many furry artists that get paid dimes and nickels for their art. The people who spread this type
of misinfo know nothing about the community and get their info from other outrage posts. You can even go on the artist FA and see other furry artists talking about how overpriced his artwork is. For every one artist you see having a successful ych or adoptable sale their are hundreds upon hundreds of other artists who get nothing from it.

>>3805522
>hundreds upon hundreds of other furry artists who get nothing from it
Maybe they should get good.

>>3805515
last one

>>3805532
I think your art is good enough for a comic especially if you have a compelling story. I'd start making it if it's what you want to do. Even if it turns out subpar it will advance your art and storytelling for next time.

>>3805537
Thanks! Maybe a one shot or something. I have another project right now so this stuff is going to stay in a drawer along with other stuff... I've got a million things from cartoon to horror just sitting there.

>>3805499
Nice! Keep it up

>>3804861
Ok, that’s hot.

>>3804861
>>3805565
I just noticed those are basically regular human feet, not digitigrade paws. The only furry elements are the face and the tail, everything else is human. There's not even any tufts of fur anywhere.
Furry is actually really vanilla.

>>3805470
but that's unappealing as fuck, it's good on a technical level but you have to realize who the market is. This person would be better off doing fantasy art or drapery design lol

>>3805527
>get good
you can be average and just be a bleeding heart and people will pay >>3805522 it's not misinfo if there are hundreds of examples of this shit in your community, people WILL pay it doesn't matter the reason or artist skill. if this were the case Miles wouldn't be doing this shit or DC doing this outburst.

You do NOT have to be good to get money from furries they are 99% retarded the 1%, all you have to do is con them into thinking you belong with them make "friends" and they'll throw money at you. People will defend bad behavior from mediocre artist on FA it's the perfect place to con people they literally don't care because if they did they wouldn't reward these people for this shit.

>>3805587
Why is capitalism so strong?

>>3805522
Anon I don't know, I casually went to check the artist in the OP and I ended up having one of the greatest wanks of my life on Maid Marian
I think he deserves the money

>>3805571
It's only unappealing to you because the character doesn't have its tits out and a random cock the size of a bus dangling infront of bean bagged sized ass cheeks for you. Which would you be more willing to pay $5000 to that or OP?

>>3805589
People are too lazy to shop around I guess, it's like how apple makes shit product and can be openly rapped up in scandals and shit but similar to furry artist because people know that name and know it's popular they buy it, they don't bother to look at reviews and buy the nest best thing (or in the case of apple that actual superior thing like android phones). They just accept it and buy the new thing immediately no matter the price hike. There's nothing wrong with capitalism but there is everything wrong with consumerism if that makes sense.

>>3805587
>drawing furries for a living leads to stomach ulcers

pottery

>>3805587
He doesn’t get very many commissions. No one buys his most expensive options either. If you draw something as niche and disgusting as that you deserve all the money you can get. Can’t believe he used to charge half that.

>>3804861
So it's 3 drawings for 5k with nudes and whatever extra means probably futa cock balls and dick nipples I mean maybe if I was rich stupid and degenerate

>>3805604
It’s brand loyalty anon. Not because they are too “lazy” to shop around. When you have such a saturated market where nothing stands out that’s the only thing you will have. Which is why mdf makes bank while others make nothing.

>>3805499
>>3805515
>>3805532

Ok, I take it back. They're not funny animals. They do remind me of old-school fantasy creatures, like from the 1980s.

I think they'd be perfect for a story like that.

>>3805623
The setting was a space opera with rusty old battered starships, basically Cowboy Bebop with furries.

>>3805587
>man its so easy to make thousands of dollars per image
>why don't you just do it then

>w-well i just have standards! that's why i've never been asked to do a commission by anyone ever

your average artist, which is about the skill level most people on /ic/ will ever reach at their peak, is going to make maybe $60 on a furry commission, maybe double that if they're particularly good at a nice style.
furries have a saturated market, and if you think "friendship" will change that much you're mistaken. while it will give you a bit of a market, you're not going to be rolling in dough as a result, you'll get maybe 5-10 extra people periodically buying, but everyone and their mom is being "friends" in those type communities.

>>3805638

>Cowboy Bebop with furries.

There's a market for this somewhere.

>>3805639
From what I understand, most commissioners will request you to copycat a certain popular artist's style.

5000 fucking dollars holy shit, fuck this world

>>3805126
>MDF
Shit I thought it was wolfy-nail since this style is not that hard to reproduce. Literally selections and gradient airbrushing, cheapest trick in the book.

>>3804861
Somewhat taken aback to that surgeon who blows like whole wads of cash on Fox/Falco macro porn.

Though fuzzy memory begs corrections for that story.

>>3804866
no cost?
nigga just pick up a pencil and jot down lines in a certain way

collect your $5000

>>3805658
cool!

>>3804940
Yeah, but the background probably took like 20 minutes to make, for 5,000$ i'd expect better than that..

>>3805684
no cost?
nigga just pick up a scalpel and cut down lines in a certain way
nigga just pick up a keyboard and press down keys in a certain way
nigga just pick up a script and speak out lines in a certain way

collect your $5000

>>3805691

I sketched it ages ago. I wanted to do a poster-type-thing, but I never got around to it. I should pull it out of the mothballs.

>>3805715
no cost?
nigga just pick up some dental tools and fix up teeth in a certain way.

nigga just pick up an arc welder and stick metal together in a certain way.

nigga just pick up a sewing machine and stitch fabric together a certain way

nigga just pick up a flex tape and tape together this boat I sawed in half a certain way

>>3805726
Collect your $5000 dollars

>>3805715
>>3805726
Seriously that is how it works.
just learn what the certain way is.

>>3805736
>no cost
>just learn
and with what are you going to eat, drink, and warm yourself while doing so?

>>3805737
water and wal-mart dumpster leftovers. it can be done.

>>3805679
Togepi? nope that's pretty much it his story is simple, he's a Korean surgeon loves foxx falco and for some fucking reason marco too, so naturally with that kind of dosh you can he can afford anyone to draw it if they're willing

>>3805738
also live in the walmart secretly.

>>3805737
be under 21 and still live with your parents

Here is the commission from 2017. How much should I charge for this type of art on FA?

>>3805901
$3000

Style reminds me a little of Don Bluth. Secret of NIMH, Titan AE etc

>>3805901
That's by far your best piece.
I don't want to pull numbers out of my ass, artist charge anywhere from 60 - 160 for a finished pic with single character and background. And higher too of course.

>>3804861
>>3804875
Someone had to take wolfy-nail's place after he retired.

>>3805902
That’s card game rates for companies. Not wrong but sadly not something you can get very often.

150-400$ though from a private person. Easy. I’d recommend making less dark pallets.

>>3805901
250-350. people will pay for it, just have to get their attention.

i get paid ~45-75 for my work

Do you think the furries who buy these things ever have those random moments of sanity, however brief, where they realize they actually spent five thousand dollars on a jpg, and have such a crushing feeling of regret and existential despair they go right back to justifying it with some wicked mental gymnastics and layers of delusions?

>>3805439
My point was that a video game usually guarantees 2 to 3 hours of entertainment, assuming all those 83 games took 2 hours to fully complete, that'd be 166 hours of doing something. This painting on the other hand, is just a picture, what would you do with it after a while. Maybe you'd jerk off to it a couple times, hang it up on a wall or, I don't know. Seems like a waste especially when the artwork isn't of extreme quality or interest, it's just a character.

>>3805902
Maybe one day

>>3805910
Yes, I think that I did this one for 150 or 250 usd. Can't remember..

>>3806053
More colors should help. Thanks

>>3806064
pyw pls

>>3806069
Many many years ago a sfm porn artist took requests and I suggested an obscure thing and he did that thing. Very short, low effort loop. I still wank to it to this day. Imagine having something on this level but professionally drawn, like the porn animations by fuzzamorous. With your very personal sexual fantasy in it doing whatever the fuck turns you on the most. Five grand is a lot but if you have money to waste you can get many many high quality faps from it.

>>3806077

I guess you simply aren't passionate about art? Now I'm not personally into furshit but commissioning my fav artist for a personal piece would be more meaningful and satisfying to me than a thousands of games.

>>3806053

Um more like $500. Card games have shit pay

>>3806097
I just think there's a limit to everything, but I guess if someone has a lot of disposable income they might as well spend it on things they're extra passionate about.

I've seen people suggesting this is a money laundering scheme.

>>3804861
Crossposting on hate-chan, eh buddy?

>>3806083
>>3806064
drawing furry art brings me dread. ive posted it on this board before but i dont think i want to post it again, sorry anon

>>3805901
You can't determine the price of artworks based solely on the quality of the art.
MilesDF can charge those amounts because people are willing to pay for his signature.

Demand sets your prices. If there are people out there willing to pay a certain amount of money for your art, then that's the price of your art.

Most smart beginner commission artist start by giving their art a "fair" price based on how much time they spend on it.
You want to make 20 bucks per hour? Your average artwork takes you 5 hours? Then charge 250 bucks for it (50 to cover taxes, fees and promotion time).

- Are people reacting positively and sending you requests for your services at those prices and you can meet the demand? Great, keep going.
- Are people flooding your inbox with requests and you can't manage the huge demand? Fantastic, increase and keep increasing your prices until the demand is manageable.
- Are people ignoring you even tho you are promoting yourself by posting your stuff on socials all around the web? That's too bad, apparently something is wrong and you'll have to lower your prices to attract a clientele. But with that you'll probably need to increase your delivery speed or drop your quality until you gain more traction.

You can't just ask how much you should charge based on your best artwork. This simply isn't how things work in the commissions community.

>>3806171
>You want to make 20 bucks per hour? Your average artwork takes you 5 hours? Then charge 250 bucks for it (50 to cover taxes, fees and promotion time).
I meant to write 150* obviously.

>>3805638
Make it a video game. Like a simple shoot them up.
You'll strike right in the heart of the Star Fox fans, who are desperate for more.

>>3805144
>It has been said a lot so is therefore not true

>>3805278
Yeah I was about to say this, it looks like an amiibo figure

>>3804861

>Be me
>Do cheap 20 dollar commissions
>Get no buyers
>Slash prices in half
>Still no buyers
>Commissions are now a measly 5 dollars because I cut my price in half again
>STILL no buyers
>An heroing start to look good
>Fuck it, cut commission prices to zero.
>Get inbox filled with requests.

Am I just a fucking joke?

>>3806382
Post your work

>>3806171
>>3806173
The thing is that I love the creating process but I hate promoting myself and overall socializing and posting all over the social media. Simply because I have some form of dyslexia or something and when I try to communicate with audience or clients it took me too long (to composite this post took me one hour and 40 minutes fyi). I just want to draw and make some art and money from it. Is there someone who want to be my manager? I mean; you find the jobs for me, I will draw it and you'll get 10% from payment. If anyone is interested please send me a note on FA and 10% from full payment is going into your pocket. Shouldn't be that hard if you are good with letters.

>>3806399
Post your art on those sites that gives you a cut for your art sale (for prints and shit)
That way you don't talk to anyone ever, post your art at the rate you like, and if it's good art that people want to have displayed on their house, you'll sell
If you draw furry futas, you are fucked.

>>3806446

Are you saying that a struggling artist that can't get anyone to pay for their work suddenly gets demand if he puts up his stuff for print? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

>>3806471
no retard
I'm saying an autistic artist that can't get himself togheter to talk to people and promote their art can still profit it in sites that do the promotion for you

>>3806260
Learn to keep your dick in your pants to look at art objectively. I'm just going to assume since there's no argument against my observations you know I am right.

>>3806474
>print sites
>doing the promotion for you
I wouldn't call others retards if i were you. Those sites promote their services, not your shitty autistic art buried in better stuff.

>pay 5000 to a furry artist
>artist gives you drawing
>artist deletes the work from his archive
>anon’s computer catches on fire
>5000 drawing gone forever

kek

>>3806502
Thanks for finally addressing the argument retard, you kinda hop in a tangent first
Do you always need to be called on your stupidity in order to talk to the point?
Jesus your mother surely fucking hate you

>all these retards
5k is a bit expensive but not unheard of in the illustration world. This is why none of you are going to make it.

>>3806069
With enough disposable income, they’ve probably bought worse things for more. My mother has an expensive purse collection and she doesn’t seem to regret spending over 40 grand on ugly purses. It’s the same with these guys, if anything they are proud of their fap collection.

>>3806382
You're an idiot if you ask for less than minimum wage.

>>3805825
>mfw im already doing this

>>3806575
nont worry. you coool

>>3804861
I guess its time to start drawing furry porn ;^)

>>3806647
blog?

>>3806647
>a scrub, bad at art, trying to say MilesDF's artwork is not worth the money, only because he knows his own art isn't worth the money
this level of cringe lmao

>>3806657
nvm found it

>>3806647
based
>>3806659
Ignore this degenerate

>>3806647
stay mad, commie

>>3806676
he didn't draw it, tardo.
he just reposted a shitty meme.

>>3806399
>>3806471
>>3806474


man. i am appeling to maketing bros.. I am not austistic. maybe i am. but please . ypu dont know what it is. every word is diferemd -- every sentence.-- please, doncet make funof me.. i its hell

>>3806382
Don't undercharge yourself because it makes normies think that your stuff is worthless. You know how you go to walmart instead of the the dollar store?

>>3806660
their art is shit
shame

>>3806728
this

>>3806647
kek me baby

>>3806382
Yes

Art is extremly valuable to people

If you're worried you're undercharging, you need to double your prices

>>3806642
you can probably sell a ych for 40-80$ if you are any good

>>3804875
Suddenly Sakimichan work doesn't look that bad.

>>3806952

Miles is definitely a superior draftsman to Sakimi in some ways.

>>3806382
It's all about advertising and activity.
You gotta flood social media with that stuff and constantly post. AND USE TAGS! Especially if you don't have a very large following. Let people see examples of what they are buying.
I think my art is mediocre at best still but I get $15-40 commissions. Because I had constantly post art/sketches and interacting with people. You just got to sell your self.

>>3806986
It doesn't look like that at all, at least sakimichan shit looks like it took some time to be done.

>>3804875
>$5000 for a single character painting without a background
>of this quality
Jesus, I personally know a lot of much better artists who could cook up complete paintings for half of that.

>>3806509
I think people object because this doesn't really look like $5000 art.

>>3806509
it is not usable for commercial purposes tho
only as personal use

suckers are born every minute the saying goes...

>>3807046
Pretty smart.

>>3804877
but its not furry

>>3807016

/beg/ spotted

>>3807059
furry fag spotted

>>3805532
blog

>>3806045
why would he retire. he was making big bux

>>3804861

Speaking of furry, there was a japanese furry artist posted here awhile ago that had great rendering skills. I think he works in clip studio. Had some high res files up. Anyone might know who I am thinking of?

>>3807046
Is this really a lot? His sketches are overpriced but I charge similar prices to him for the rest. I don’t even do furry commissions.

>>3807178
Honestly? I don't think it's that egregious at all.
Would be kind of rich for my blood, but I've seen a lot of good artists with high prices, and that's just how it is.

The question is how good that guy actually is, knowing how furries are willing to throw exorbitant amounts of money on poor and mediocre art.

>>3804962
that's fucking it, i'm going to start my gay furry twitter this week

>>3807301
May the shekels be with you

>>3807301
Don't think you'll suddenly get a ton of commissions, noobie.

$5000 is completely ridiculous for a piece you don't even get the rights to. In the TOS it states that you can't make it private and the artist can do what ever they like with your character and profit more off of you how they see fit. I would understand the cost if it was maybe oil on canvas with a nice frame. The idea of buying art is that it appreciates, while this essentially goes to $0 after the fact. Nothing to sell while anyone can come and download what you baught.

>>3807443
This is my main issue with the pricing.

You barely get anything for the money.

>>3804943
>>3804957
>>3804942
For perspective, that's more than what i get in half a year. Goddamn, gotta start doing commissions. Living in yuropoor country i should be making a firtune compared to wages around here.

>>3807457
Miles was both lucky and skilled in making himself a brand.

Expect something more like this, here are a highly skilled artist's rates, look under comission info.
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/caraid/

I personally am for this pic, because if it raises the status of art for everyone. Y’all need to stop saying “this is overpriced” and imagine a future where this is the average wage for all artists.

>>3807484
So market saturates even more. Great plan. Fagot.

>>3807463
>this is more realistic so it's better
retard /beg/ idiocy as expected from this board
artist in the OP is infinitely more appealing

>>3806382
You're an idiot because you charged little to begin with. If you don't value what you do, no one will either.

>>3807489
I'm not saying it's better, I'm saying her rates are representative of what highly skilled furry artist can expect to earn.

>>3807489
this tbqh
he's more "skilled" but at the same time, miles is better at creating appealing art.
Fuck, the uncompleted ych sketch is more appealing than anything in Caraid's gallery.

>>3807495
>>3807494

If you think you can go decide to be a furry and expect to make 5000$ ychs you are retarded

>>3804861

>see OP
>how the fuck can someone be so stupid to pay that kind of money
>miles DF, well known, okay.jpg, but literally looks like a trace
>Go to FA
>look up "ych's"
>see this

And someone will buy this knowing full well they could have traced it on their own.

>>3807501
I never said that.
I said the reason Miles gets away with it is because he has a more appealing art style.

>>3807517
my sides

>>3806647
I fucking kekd at the lewd

>>3807121
@hakoret on twitter

>>3807518
There are plenty of artist with superior style to bland DF, who also sells at tenth of the price.

>>3807518
Well all I reacted to in my original post was that people shouldn't expect to sell like Miles DF.
They should expect the realistic rates if they want to get into furry comissions.

>>3807536
You do know that Miles DF is literally the person who made the current furry art style?
He's literally the first person who made furry art how it is.
If you're a modern furry artist, and you practice using anyone who got into the scene after 2010, you're going to be getting influenced by him whether you like it or not, unless you're a mega autist like kalahari who has a nostalgia boner for the 90s, and even then, you can the the MilesDF influence in his art.

>>3807539
I didn't know the specifics, but it's not the quality or the style that lets him charge that much, it is the fandom fame.

>>3804861
>>3806647
I understand not undervaluing yourself and your work, but on the other hand that kind of prices it's kinda off.
It's like free2play games market, hunting for those whales that will pay thousands of $ for equivalent of imaginary goods i.e. taking advantage of mentally impaired

I hope he at least paints @ super high dpi so his clients can print his works in large format

>>3807539
>You do know that Miles DF is literally the person who made the current furry art style?

I didn't know Miles DF was Jeremy Bernal, Onta, Wolfy-nail, Tsampikos, any other generic simplistic tracer/selection and airbrush tooler.

>He's literally the first person who made furry art how it is.

I don't think you know how long the furry fandom has been around

>If you're a modern furry artist, and you practice using anyone who got into the scene after 2010, you're going to be getting influenced by him whether you like it or not, unless you're a mega autist like kalahari who has a nostalgia boner for the 90s, and even then, you can the the MilesDF influence in his art.

If by "practice using anyone who got into the scene after 2010" you mean "looked at what stupid furries were into and copied it in order to make money" then I'm gonna interject and say that that isn't a style.

>you can the the MilesDF influence in his art.
Of reproducing image as fast as possible with no attention to detail and making generic crisp air brushing? To make it as appealing, saturated with colors and romanticized flash thrown in? That's not a MilesDF trademark, that is just every furry watching youtube tutorials on what the "multiply" layer can do for you. By your logic we may as well just call furry art "hentai" since hardly any of the lazy fuckers ever even use a fur texture. Because then that would be too hard you see.

>>3805515
>>3805532
>>3807527
Learn to animate please. Don't let fur fags corrupt you.

>>3807457
You need to first make a name for yourself man. It's not like you will get flooded with $300 requests as soon as you'll open furry commissions if you are an unknown artist. Also you need to have some good shit to show.

>>3804861

>>3807668
>this amount of envy
kek

>>3807517
40 dollars for a coloured collab knee-up? Are they retarded or just ready to hang themselves?

>>3807517
Wait am minute i recognize that asian gay porno

>>3807126

bumping question

>>3807756
fuck you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdpyPIiXXls

>>3807815
trace is so bad it doesn’t even line up at all.

>>3807517
I will never understand avian furries
I mean, I think avian anthros look super cool when they're stylized and they have avian features
but having a fetish for this shit? you can't fuck a beak

>>3807630
The amount of jealousy seeping off this is hilarious.

Also it's been sold btw.

>>3808549
It’s just the attention-whore furfag samefagging. Just let him give himself pats on the back for his shitty art. It makes him feel better.

not even mad. hes very skilled

and furrys are great. they keep the normalfags out

>>3807842
You've never tried and you're not strong enough yet

>>3805594
No the characters you linked look derpy as fuck. OPs pic actually looks half decent, still wouldn't pay shit for it and furry porn is gross.

>>3804943
I woulda gone with 25 Xboxes.

>>3805465
Yes you can. Google says $75k a year with diminishing returns after that.

>>3808934

>>3809150
I earned 75k for a year. worst year of my life.

So fuck you and fuck google.

>>3809224
>I earned 75k for a year. worst year of my life.
REEEEEEEE

>>3809224
bitch I made 12k last year and I had to live with my parents and sister

>>3809224
Should of just married a businessman

>>3809123
I actually trascended furdom long ago when I had a major degeneracy level up, never understood avians

>>3808549
>lists out steps to becoming generic furfag artist
>This makes me jealous

What exactly am I jealous of? The money made? It's an entire fandom centered around pure materialism and hyper sexuality, so of course it's easy to get money of the people in it. The only "work" involved is spending years building up a portfolio of dicks to sucker in the dumber richer furries. Oh and you also have to deal with the sensitive welps, and listen to their bs sob stories.

>Also it's been sold btw.

I never expected it NOT to sell. The dumb furfags treat commissions by popular artists like a dick waving contest because like I said, their entire fandom has it's foundation based in pure materialism. Sometimes they even have auctions for them. Nothing of what they do or are is beneficial to society, in fact they are degenerative to society because they literally promote dehumanization both in their consumption and the fact that some actually believe they aren't humans. So;

>Getting jealous that people are paying to promote their own philosophically void batshit insane concepts

How can you even get mad at that? Making money off others stupidity is what stupid humans do best.

>>3806660
Link?

>>3809657
And what are YOU doing for making our society better? If you think that making concept art for Hollywood bulshit propaganda movies or videogame movies is any better than drawing furry dicks I have a bad news for you buddy

>>3807122
Sometimes you want something different from life than drawing fuzzy animals doing funny things

>>3807301
First thing you have to chase the fandom, then once you get noticed you can drag them with you

>>3807517
Those wings are fucked, but i appreciate leatherman

>>3809657
>Making money off others stupidity is what stupid humans do best
>stupid humans
https://youtu.be/LtH7l-dhHZQ

>>3807126
is that Aruurara you're talking about?

>>3807815
those are the longest arms I've ever seen on an asian

>>3809141
You only think so because tiddie you mong.

>>3809926
>And what are YOU doing for making our society better?
Acting and behaving like a sane and rational human being is a good start. Not having a mental disease is another. Oh and paying taxes and working a job that benefits other functioning humans is another plus. Tell me what beneficial function smut art produces.

>if you think that making concept art for Hollywood bulshit propaganda movies or videogame movies is any better than drawing furry dicks I have a bad news for you buddy.
what part of:
"Making money off others stupidity is what stupid humans do best."

did you not understand? It just depends on how stupid the human you're working with is.
For instance:
Stupid humans have a need for signs, graphic designer makes signs that serve a function, but this function is beneficial for human beings and benefits them
Vs
Stupid humans have a WANT for pictures of naked mythical creatures. Furfags, Anime artists and smut artists fulfill those WANTS which do not serve a beneficial function whatsoever.

>>3810024
Admitting you're ignorant is one thing, pretending you know something is another. I just add the "human" part to rub salt in dumb furfag wounds. Only a stupid human would dress up and act like an animal.

>>3810358
Lmao you posted some ugly ass art, dunno why you give a fuck about what art style furries do their stuff in

>>3810370
i dont know buddy, bringing a little joy to people with some sexy monsters is good in my book

>>3804943
>not measuring it by Loomis units lol ngmi
A Loomis book on Amazon is around $25, so you could buy 200 Loomis with that furry art.

>>3805499
ew I don't want that to pound my asshole. Gross! Nice work btw

>>3805684
>>3805715
>>3805726
>>3805728

>>3806382
Try charging 250 for a portrait sketch

>>3807055
>>3807068
Fuck it. I'll charge $300 for a lineart with no background

>>3805499
That's pretty fucking neat. Reminds me of Tabletop RPG's manual illustrations.

Isn't there a screenshot with a Miles-df's YCH that some furry paid almost $3500 for it?

>>3810480
Thanks. I'm mostly a fan of old Disney stuff

>>3807517
I know this seems like a lot, but please take into consideration that the majority of furries have really complicated patterns on their body or they have odd hairstlyes and proportions. Miles DF basically only draws dogs and cats.
The main thing about this that I don't like is that the pose isn't interesting and the fetish doesn't make any sense with the background unless there's more to it or someone gets the reference.

If you want to make cheap money, buy a $20 chibi base from a popular furry artist and spam $5 adoptables. Then, offer different views and versions for an extra price. You'll pay for the base in just a couple of wandering sales. You don't even have to draw extra parts on the ones that come with extra eyes and hair.

give me ur fuvkign money right fucknfgf now

>>3810906
Ya I think disney does anthro best

>>3807527
I came to shit on furry cancer, I am glad there is someone who can actually do awesome shit. Good job. Not gonna follow because stylized designs are not my thing, but please accept my complements. Keep it up, Anon- kun!

>>3811022
You forgot to include a lewd preview with him showing his butt or something

>>3806382
lol idiot, ive been drawing a year and i charge $80 for lineart, $180 for colored work, and i raise my price everytime i do a commission. the more you charge, the more people percieve you as a luxury artist. the key is making friends with rich people in tech and networking through them.

>>3811242
Pyw, I want to flog shit off to my tech network as well. Basically flat anything?

he sold it btw
just incase anyone cared

>>3812294
Pretty sure nobody doubted it would sell

>>3804943
>videogames
cringe

>>3811242

Bullshit you are.

>>3806382
>used to/still believe my art isn't good enough
>open commission free price as long it's more that 2$ USD
>most a person gave me was 20
>friends start telling me to raise it
>they suggest 65$
>okay
>get 8 commissioners in just 5 hours

then again i had around 10k followers, i suggest doing fanart of shows/animes first to gain public once you see your fanart/regular art get more that 300 likes/note start posting commissions even lying about being full can make people ask you for a waiting list

>>3812386
>i suggest doing fanart of shows/animes first to gain public
Fuck this so much, I'd rather ngmi.

>>3812386
what site is this and what fandom?

>>3812391
I have more experience with tumblr since it’s really easy to be found thanks to tags
Generally Nintendo franchises are a goldmine they’re popular between all type of people therefore more likely to share it, something like Pokémon which gen 8 is right around the corner and will explode soon so I suggest drawing a comic/fanart if the soon to be shown new Pokémon as FAST as possible
People tend to look on social media as soon as they announce anything
Shows/games with big OC potential are also good like splattoon, Pokémon, SU and ect. Theses are more likely to commission you and if they like you enough will keep coming back.
Anime commissioner in my experience had always been more picky/cheap so I tend to avoid those and furry commissioners are more likely to keep coming back and giving tips the bad part is that they expect to becoming friends while describing why pregnant wolves makes them hard.

>>3807126
ovopack or aruurara maybe?

>>3811127
Thanks anon, you're too kind.

>>3805622
>Not because they are too “lazy” to shop around. When you have such a saturated market where nothing stands out that’s the only thing you will have.
That is being too lazy to compare products or "shop around." If the market wasnt saturated, there would only be a few things to actually buy and shopping wouldnt be a thing. Youre a fucking retard.

>>3806129
Probably true

>>3812824
where is her human hair and boobs? it's almost like you don't even want to be a furry artist

>>3812860
Yeah I like drawing anthros but I don't like drawing them in that style. Also I like putting lots of tufts of fur and I think it's offputting.

>>3807068
>have some consideration for other artists
Fuck you. I draw for fun and am smart enough to not make myself dependent on art. If I can get some compensation by doing something that takes more time or I usually have no interest in or dislike, then that's fine.

>>3810007
he's Russian tho
the only other choice he has is dying from alcohol poisoning

>>3804861
LEARN2DRAWFURRYPORN is the Learn2code for artists

>>3804921
>I just got my tax return of $5000. There is NO FUCKING WAY people are paying five grand. I refuse to believe that. Fucking brilliant paintings in real life that are 100 years old cost that much. There is no fucking way in HELL people are paying this. I refuse to believe this ruse.

Furries spend A LOT of money on their fetish. Some even pay up to 10k for those mascot/furry suits

>>3804861
Shit at this point someone should just trace and paint-over the image and show how worthless art really is

>>3805658
>>3805638
>Tfw space opera story with a raptor waifu is one of my bigger motivations for learning to draw

>>3815585
Do it anon! Good luck with your space adventures. Took a few liberties with this one

>>3815654
Goddamn; thanks, Anon. That's the nicest thing anyone's done and said for me in awhile. I'll keep going, maybe even post in drawthreads from time to time.

>>3804861
>by the way, this will sell within a couple hours as it does every month

There a lot of lonely and single people out there. They're going to need to spend their money on something

>>3815654
based anonymous!

>>3815518
Drawing alone is not enough to make cash. You need to market yourself properly for that.

>>3815804
Are those stats for the US? Seems like a low percentage.

>>3805506
So? I want to make a quick buck, not become a degenerate like them?

>>3816563
>implying you'll make it
100% of people who say they want to "scam the furries" end up either
>becoming furries themselves
or
>failing hard to attract any customers and whining about how you hate furries on /ic/

>>3815804
Being rich and single is the best possible outcome though.

i'm thinking of getting into furry porn, but the dicks are confusing. are human looking dicks acceptable or do you have to do dog dicks? i don't want to look at dog dicks

>>3816571
>i don't want to look at dog dicks
I'm not an expert thankfully but I'd take a look at bad dragon for reference

>>3816596
not a bad idea, thanks anon

Don't get into furry art for the money, there are much easier ways to make money than this shit
It's not a low effort way to make 100k a year, those people are the outliers, you will most likely struggle to make even a fraction of minimum wage drawing shit you don't like

Just become a plumber or something

>>3816648
This. I made more making sparkle chibis than doing furry art. Then again I didn’t do furry porn.

>>3804875
It's not even a good Sally.

>>3806171
>You can't determine the price of artworks based solely on the quality of the art.
>MilesDF can charge those amounts because people are willing to pay for his signature.
>Demand sets your prices. If there are people out there willing to pay a certain amount of money for your art, then that's the price of your art.
>Most smart beginner commission artist start by giving their art a "fair" price based on how much time they spend on it.
>You want to make 20 bucks per hour? Your average artwork takes you 5 hours? Then charge 250 bucks for it (50 to cover taxes, fees and promotion time).
>- Are people reacting positively and sending you requests for your services at those prices and you can meet the demand? Great, keep going.
>- Are people flooding your inbox with requests and you can't manage the huge demand? Fantastic, increase and keep increasing your prices until the demand is manageable.
>- Are people ignoring you even tho you are promoting yourself by posting your stuff on socials all around the web? That's too bad, apparently something is wrong and you'll have to lower your prices to attract a clientele. But with that you'll probably need to increase your delivery speed or drop your quality until you gain more traction.
>You can't just ask how much you should charge based on your best artwork. This simply isn't how things work in the commissions community.

TRUTH
Building a community/fanbase is number one

>>3816819
but how can I do so when I am autistic (but at the same time, I am really good at art)?

its all so tiresome...

>>3816648
it's definitely hit or miss, especially with your style.
i've been on the grind for 3 years doin furry art (pays for rent at least) but still need a part-time job to save up.
got a friend though who took off immediately during highschool and has been living off their work since. just last year they moved across the country AND bought a car using the money they've made.
they also don't do nsfw commissions. they enjoy creating nsfw content though, but do it the smart way and only upload it privately to their patreon. i've never heard them talk about how they hate drawing the same stuff over and over again.
they are truly living in the best timeline.

>>3816648
plumbing is not as easy and fun as drawing. And if anyone thinks that drawing furry dicks is hard work maybe you shouldn't draw at all. kek