/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

loomis probably

>>3780034
Draw a box

>>3780039
>mfw this was the first book
Thank you /ic/

>>3780034
Akira and a bunch of Ghibli films, along with a few books on anatomy, figure drawing, and Animator's Survival Guide (If that's the correct name. Can't remember)

>>3780034
It wouldn't make a difference, I'm a brainlet and I can't learn. I liked Bridgman and Vilppu and that's what I would start with again.

>>3780034
started with bridgman, would probably give myself dynamic sketching or the vilppu drawing manual

Fucking Hampton. His book has most of what you need.

>>3780034
my first book was pic related and for videos was FZD and i dont regret it. i found those resources before i dived into /ic/, so i was already gonna make it >:)

watts atelier

>>3777777

>>3780034
Fuck that pic is so relatable

bridgman

>>3780034
>>3780220
This sort of shit is why I'll NEVER switch to digital. It happens to me 100% of the time and it's infuriating.

>>3780224
it's your fault that you're retarded

>>3780224
It can be solved by literally just locking the sketch layer. Does one extra step require this much brainpower from you?

>>3780224
It never happens to me because I sketch dark, then I turn down the opacity when I want to line them (which is what most people do anyways). So if I ever accidentally drew on the sketch layer I will instantly notice it because the line's color will be too light.

The more common problem is drawing on the wrong layer when you split up your drawings into face layer, hair layer, etc. But I rarely do that anyways.

>>3780229
I am

>>3780368
I know but I forget to lock the layer!

>>3780172
pyw fgt

If you guys could start over in manga/webcomic what's the first book /videos you would pick up?

I'd make myself actually read loomis

>>3780386
Will Eisner trilogy

>>3780380
Make it a mantra, anon. Leave a memo to yourself as a paper stuck to the wall or some shit written "ALWAYS LOCK LAYERS AFTER MOVING TO THE NEXT ONE" until it becomes a part of you.

>>3780400
I just draw traditionally. Traditional is retard proof. You can't fuck up putting the pencil sketch under a lightbox and inking over it. And it feels a million times better to draw on paper

>>3780034
Nothing, I just started drawing and looked up materials on the go to assist me with developing perspective, shading, etc...
You'll never learn by just reading, you have to actually do something

>>3780034
I have yet to pick my first book

dont have this problem in ms paint

>>3780034
If I could go back in time, I'd give me little me Fun With A Pencil and tell myself to throw out my copy of pic related which I clung to like the bible as an 8 year old

>>3780618
/pol/ please

>>3780637
Dude he was one of us. He's the original NGMI except he became productive in other fields

>>3780644
>he became productive in other fields
well, I can't deny that

>>3780647
he is also one of the most known artist, can't deny that either

>>3780644
>productive
he failed at it so hard he literally killed himself over it

If I could start over I would just DRAW, instead of what I did which was listen to a bunch of people in school and internet forums back in the day, telling me what, and how, I should and shouldn't be drawing. Rather than getting better, I just became confused, and slowed down, cause I had a ton of people all telling me different things about what I could and couldn't do.

Usually it was people who didn't know what they were talking about too, cause years later they still draw the same way, or same subjects over and over, but I was dumb and thought they had the answers. I feel if I didn't involve myself with that shit and just drew I would have been better off.

>>3780657
Everyone on /ic/ is so harsh. He did a pretty good job.

>>3780670
he should've read more loomis

>>3780679
He did mostly landscapes, not sure if Loomis would have helped

Also he was way too busy when Fun With A Pencil came out in 1939 and Creative Illustration came out in '47.

>>3780512
Wait is this a legit how to draw manga book ?

>>3780224
It's not a real problem.

With black ink on top is easy: you can either select the black, invert selection, cut and paste on another layer, or directly use threshold to get rid of the grays.

If you have a darker sketch on top of a lighter one use levels to cut out the lighter values.

If the lighter sketch has transparent pixels merge it to a full white layer first and then do as above.

>>3780034

I would read these books in no particular order, though I recommend starting with How to Draw. I'll attach my art, all done on one layer in photoshop with 100% flow and opacity.

1) How to draw by Scott
2)Simplyfying perspective by Robert Pastrana
3)how to render by Scott
4) realistic light and color by Gurney
5)Loomis proportion/figure book

Pretty much 100 percent of the technical skill is right here, read these books and practice them well over a period of days. Try to learn to see volume and value, this can be done with practice.

>>3780034
fixed it anon

>>3781965
kek

>>3780034
>drawing digitally
>"INK layer"

This triggers me for some reason. Same as when people do inktober on digital.

>>3780686
Not the guy you're talking to, but yeah it's real, I recall seeing it at those Scholastic book fairs that went to my elementary school back in the day. There are equally bad "How to Draw Manga" books going around even today though

>>3781979
>Same as when people do inktober on digital
What the fuck? That's about as criminal as drawing a girl and calling it a boy

>>3780034
Then same books I started with, only 10 years earlier

>>3781979
>>3781999
Imagine being this autistic

>>3780386
seconded, but only nip stuff

A sketchbook

>>3780034
I started out perfectly with the best video so I'll share if anybody wants it.
There was a video series by a man names "Waveloop" on youtube called unusual art tip with easily some of the best art tips to ever be on the internet. Most of the videos are down, but his 8th video ( figure drawing part 1) is probably one of the best ones and has some insanely valuable stuff in it.

>>3780034
It wouldnt matter.
Im too stupid to properly learn anything and id be wasting my time.

>>3781965
fixed it anon

>>3780034
alla prima for the artist
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/
graphic la
how to draw/how to render
elemental magic
yasuo otsuka's joy in motion
takehiko inoue draw
any anatomy book
>>3780224
turn down the opacity on you sketch layer when you start inking. any marks on the wrong layer will become immediately apparent

>not a single mention of Keys to Drawing

NGMI

>>3782481
I bought it but I never opened it. It teaches some sort of comparative measurement approach that is completely useless to be since I draw constructively with as little reference as possible

Anatomy for Sculptors by Zarins. Secondary books would be 人描く and アニメ私塾

>>3782396
This one is actually funny

>>3780034
I’ll give - what’s the joke here? Did he accidentally delete it, was he just drawing over a picture and that was all he’d done, or does digital just work where you have to draw it twice for some reason?

Traditional-fag here.

>>3782709
he start inking on the sketch layer
hence that why some inking part was missing

>>3782709
imagine working on tracing paper but someone how you actually drew on top of the rough.and had to either trace and ink again or white out all the overlapping rough.

>>3782396
Should've changed the third panel too.

>>3780034
Honestly how often does this exact problem happen? I thought most people working in digital lower the opacity of the sketch layer so it'd be very obvious if you're inking on the wrong layer.

a book that says to start taking it serious before teenage years

>>3780034
Books:
>Vilppu's drawing manual
>Gurney's light and colour

Videos:
>HGJ's videos
>Ruan Jia's videos
>Krenz's videos
>Mohrbacher's videos

>>3780034
Here's 3 tips if you fall for this actually awful meme issue:
>GIMP exists
It has colour to alpha. Colour to alpha white and it will return your drawing to being lines on a transparent background.
>Levels/selective colour in PS exists
It can let you cut out lighter colours. If used remorselessly you will end up with very dark lines but you can also mask it or select it/smooth it/contract it and convert it into a path and then convert it back and fill in the path selection and usually this won't make the resultant ink look like shit
>select similar
This selects similar colours. It obviously won't select your lighter colours.

Make sure that you save seperate psds frequently and if you are too retarded to stick your lineart under a lock you can of course put it in a folder which has the same benefit of preventing you from randomly clicking that layer but also ensures that everything can be neatly categorised.

>>3780685
kek imagine hitler managing the European campaign, giving speeches at cool gatherings, then taking an hour or 2 off to grind fundies with fun with a pencil.

>>3783161
Hitler would make art as relevant like it is Japan. Western art is literally sjw fuckery, selected talentless hacks get the prominent jobs(art hoes suck dicks for disney jobs).

>>3780669
This is me but the exact opposite. Some 4-5 years ago I heeded tehmeh's advice and decided I would just DRAW. I realize now that the time I have spent working toward this goal has been a complete waste with little to no improvement, and I regret not actually taking up Loomis or Vilppu earlier.

take any stock photo, trace the outline roughly, then draw whatever you like