/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3771957
>Needing a circlejerk thread to receive asspats and be immersed in a hugbox environment from Anonymous dickgirl urethra penetrating artists with x ray drawings of sperm frolicking inside the bulging nutsack
Not. Gonna. Make it.

>>3771959
You sure took your time with that post Anon! Good job! Now draw with that much enthusiasm.

>>3771957
If you wanted good vibes, you should have posted a better artist for inspiration as OP pic, retard.

>>3771959
fpbp

>>3771959
wow, OP was right. This board is getting too negative.
Does this has anything to do with the influx of chivalrous re-dditors from a while ago?

>>3771959
>that one assblasted mcdonalds faggot who still thinks animu smug faces are a thing

every time lol

>>3771957
I'm too insecure about my art to share it yet but I hope all of you anons achieve whatever you set out to do.

I just wanna say to all you anons keep doing you stuff! Do it if you like doing it, everyone else can go fuck themselves.

>>3771959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMfOMsoWtU

>>3771957
I applaud you for having the balls to make a thread like this on 4chan. You have my love and support. I hope this thread takes off.

I've been on 4chan a long time (means I'm probably mentally ill) and I hate to say this but /ic/ has ALWAYS been negative. Its a part of this site after all. The least negative boards STILL have sociopaths waiting around every corner. BUT

Thank you anyway for making the thread, and yah, good luck and I hope it turns out good.

show us how u make it

I was think about same thread but, diff between those so, i can show what im doing and how im trying, thats beter i guess that just random POSITIVe , so fuck u with positive, put ur positive in the ass,there u only tryhard or u suckhard

>>3771957
Here is some encouragement. It's extremely rare that someone who is truly good at art is negative. Usually because by the time you're good you're over 30. But even when I was younger, the guys who were extra good at art in class or wherever you found them had more discipline than the average and more discipline usually means they don't waste their time with negative crap, in fact, they usually don't waste their time doing much talking at all when it comes to art.

You'll get the occasional guy who is a good talker and good at art, like Jeff Watts, but is he negative? Nope. He's mature and cares a lot about art.

this board is a piece of shit. a bunch of weebs who can't draw shit but bad anime and faggots who think they're special because they make cringy "realism" criticising other people's work. who the fuck you guys think you are to criticize anybody? we are all on the same boat, it's good to have a encouragement thread. and if you are only in this board to criticise others because you want to forget how shitty your own work is, fuck off and continue living in your fucking bubble.

>>3772201
cut your bullshit cunt

>>3772201
kek he autism
Positive thinking is actually a part of being successful (well, of course there are extreme cases on the other side), how can you be successful if you're not positive and communicate that around you? Look even outside the art field, most people that hav everything will never be angry moody fuckers. They're positive when they can (it's not black and white) and share that with others.

Also OP, 4chan might not be suited for this. Not saying this in a negative way but it's what it is, we need all sort of moods online.
But if this doesn't work, maybe start a Dicord serv or something.

anons I love you all, even the negative ones, because I know where you’re coming from. but keep in mind that no one has ever “made it” by wanting to kill themselves over bad anatomy or shading everytime, your mistakes are a part of the journey, if you keep working and genuinely care about your art you will make it in one way or another (and there is no big “making it” it’ll be small things like getting compliments, or asked about commissions or galleries it’s an adventure, not a marathon)

>>3772229
at first need thread with content and ppls who realy want it, so after it, but it must be thread with posting and ppls

>>3771979
Pussy ngmi
>>3772040
Idiot ngmi
>>3772056
Insecure faggot ngmi
>>3772134
Delusional ngmi
>>3772192
Cringeworthy faggot ngmi
>>3772254
Faggot m'lady ngmi

This thread is built on the hopes and dreams for positive reinforcement for a bunch of faggots who think love is going to save your sorry ass attempts at trying to nippon your artwork to any varying degree.

If you're so positive about yourselves, post your fucking work and show us...show us how much the power of positive reinforcement has changed your art for the better.

Fact of the matter is, none of you will. Your reside back into your rooms, look across it at the gloom your lives have become, then look down on that overpriced piece of shit tablet or crumpled up piece of paper on your desk and think, why didn't I get a real job like my other friends did? Why didn't I go to school to learn an actual trade so that I can go out into the real world and make something of myself? Why am I still depending on an ability, I'll never fully master, until 25 years from now?

Your parents ought to be ashamed of themselves for letting you slide down so fucking low the humanity ladder, that you have to lurk on 4chan for other anonymous users, who are in the same quagmire as you mind you, just to keep your hopes and dreams afloat for one more day.

Quit. Put your shit down and walk away. Go get a job. Art is not for you.

You either have it, or you don't. And if you're responding to positive feedback or you're posting it, then you obviously DON'T have what it takes to draw.

>>3771957
FUCKING FINALLY
>>3772206
top notch tip

>Visualization tip
alright here's a tip to the pile
A lot of people talk about having a hard time with keeping an image still in their head when they go to draw it and being bad at imagining once they go to draw.
This is something completely natural, seeing how our brains are built for survival, seeing movement and constant change, seeing constant footage. Being able to hold an image to draw it is a skill that you get with time. it'snot about having or not having it, it's something that you develope the more you work with art, since you learn more about how something actually looks and works.
HOWEVER, there is a trick to overcoming this as a beginner, or as someone who has a hard time with that skill.
1)Draw what you want from a basic straight forward shot. Once you have the pose, and all elements down as a sideways or basic angle sketch, you can place an imaginary camera in there and using the doodle infront of you figure out how it will look from different angles
2)draw something very small and low on details, even if it's horribly cartoony and sketchy. Sometimes getting the idea out of your head fast is the best way to do it, you can then go ahead to polish it later. This is how animators do it ( storyboards and animatic then more refined for the final animation).

>>3772298
Thanks for sharing my man

>>3772302
hope this helps!

>>3771957
Add me on discord if you want me to pinpoint your thoughts and problems with art. chaseguki#7907

>>3772295
ngmi
>>3772298
dunb faggot ngmi trying to give out tips lol
>>3772302
Baited ngmi

you fuckers will fall for anything jesus christ lol

>>3772289
i get that you hate yourself but if you spent as much time and effort writing this edgy fifth grade essay as you did actually making art you could have made it already

>>3772322
Now how is that positive, anon-kun? :( lmao

>>3772289
>Insecure faggot ngmi
t-thanks you too

>>3771959
i swear this is the same guy in those dynamic sketching and streaming group threads just trying to tear people down

>>3772289
stay a crab

>>3772289
>faggot m’lady ngmi
I love you too anon when’s our wedding

>>3772289
lol look at this crab

>>3771957


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The Fighter - Poem by Samuel Ellsworth Kiser
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I fight a battle every day
Against discouragement and fear;
Some foe stands always in my way,
The path ahead is never clear!

I must forever be on guard
Against the doubts that skulk along;
I get ahead by fighting hard,
But fighting keeps my spirit strong.

I hear the croakings of Despair,
The dark predictions of the weak;
I find myself pursued by Care,
No matter what the end I seek;
My victories are small and few,
It matters not how hard I strive;
Each day the fight begins anew,
But fighting keeps my hopes alive.

My dreams are spoiled by circumstance,
My plans are wrecked by Fate or Luck;
Some hour, perhaps, will come my chance,
But that great hour has never struck;
My progress has been slow and hard,
I've had to climb and crawl and swim,
Fighting for ever stubborn yard;
But I have kept in fighting trim.

I have to fight my doubts away
And be on guard against my fears;
The feeble croaking of Dismay
Has been familiar through the years;
My dearest plans keep going wrong,
Events combine to thwart my will;
But fighting keeps my spirit strong,
And I am undefeated still!

>>3772289
You seem, upset

>>3771957

I fight a battle every day
Against discouragement and fear;
Some foe stands always in my way,
The path ahead is never clear!

I must forever be on guard
Against the doubts that skulk along;
I get ahead by fighting hard,
But fighting keeps my spirit strong.

I hear the croakings of Despair,
The dark predictions of the weak;
I find myself pursued by Care,
No matter what the end I seek;
My victories are small and few,
It matters not how hard I strive;
Each day the fight begins anew,
But fighting keeps my hopes alive.

My dreams are spoiled by circumstance,
My plans are wrecked by Fate or Luck;
Some hour, perhaps, will come my chance,
But that great hour has never struck;
My progress has been slow and hard,
I've had to climb and crawl and swim,
Fighting for ever stubborn yard;
But I have kept in fighting trim.

I have to fight my doubts away
And be on guard against my fears;
The feeble croaking of Dismay
Has been familiar through the years;
My dearest plans keep going wrong,
Events combine to thwart my will;
But fighting keeps my spirit strong,
And I am undefeated still!

Guys I want to give up but I don't know if it's because of depression or because I actually don't like making art. I think I do cause sometimes I find it interesting but I've always been drawing in and out for my whole life and I'm still baby mode. If I never produced anything yet, maybe I'm just being stubborn and I actually don't like making finished stuff? Maybe I keep on trying because it's the only thing I inda, vaguely learned how to do and I have no skills and I'm too old for finding a path?
How do I deal with being in love with art in general but not being able to produce anything?
This is fucking hell and I feel like a whiny baby, but I'm stuck whatever I do. I don't even know why I'm asking. If I really wanted to MI I would just fucking do it. I just wish I could accept that it's not for me.

Obligatory pic.

>>3772379
>should I quit
If you enjoy art, keep at it, if you don't there's no shame in putting it down and coming back into it when you are better, especially if your mental health is on the line.
>too old for finding a path
>been drawing for year but still baby mode
If you are focused in art and work hard on it and keep your attention on it and sit down with the intent of wrapping your head around the puzzle that is art, you can get good in a very hsort amount of time, which is why you can also pick up art at any age, but the question is are you ready to put it the work.

I think bottom line if you are depressed and your life or mind are not at peak art will become a pain, so make sure to clear those out first and then pursue art. there's no shame in wagefagging and doing art on your free time.

>>3772386
Bob ross is now an angle, but did anything really change?
Brilliant man. He deserves all the recognition he gets.

>>3772391
You're totally right.
And I know and I've felt those things, not just the words.
But I think I can't win against depression whatever I do.
Best of luck to all of you.

Sorry for derailing, that's why I deleted my other post. Keep drawing guys. You're going to make it.

I keep coming back and improving even after rather long periods away. I don't know what making it is supposed to mean, but I'm closer to my own goals than ever and I don't feel like I've actually put in all that much work. You have to look back and realize you enjoy the pain.

>>3772337
Post your work, faggot
>>3772355
But you won't post your work, stay a faggot
>>3772357
You left me at the altar, faggot. Eat a fetus.
>>3772359
lol post your work
>>3772363
because you haven't posted your work

See what I mean? This is how you thoroughly begin to unravel insecure, hopeless beginners. If any of these replies had been followed up with works in progress or, finished work, then you'd have an argument for me being so negative.

You'll all quit within three months. All of this positive pow wow crap with have amounted to nothing. And I know you're all weebs who lurk here, so let me show you the level of greatness that you'll never achieve in your lifetime.

Take a real good look at the success you'll never have, the admiration of fans who will never anticipate your next release, to the kudos from fellow industry professionals who will cite your work as inspiration.

It must be a sad existence waking up to your lives every day, with nothing to look forward to but a downward spiral of emotions from jaded parents who no longer support your dream, to friends you wish you had, to a fan base that will never exist, to an ability you wish you had, but will never develop.

Ever.

Let the dopamine rush in, have you reply back in the same cookie cut, homogonized manner you're all accustomed to here, and realize that when you hit that Post button, you will have proven me right.

Bob Ross isn't going to save you, nor will any long winded poem, or that inspirational poster that you have up on that dingy, crusted old wall in your room.

No, the only salvation here, is for to quit. With extreme prejudice.

Go on, turn the tablet off and go to sleep. You've polished that turd for hours now, it's okay, it's not going to get any better tomorrow.

Put the pencil down, close your sketchbook and try crying in another spot of your room tonight as you listen to music to medicate your thoughts. Turn off the light, break the pencil in half and throw it away.

That's it, realize that you made a mistake in trying to pursue a dream, you have no business in. And that's alright, mistakes are to be made. Better you realize that now, then wake up 15 years from now with the same hopeless feeling you're going to be with tonight.

Quit. Art is not for you.

And it never will be.

Better to hear the truth now, than be fed a lie by someone who doesn't care for you, who doesn't know anything about you, who won't do a damn thing to reach out to you, but pretends that you're "going to make it", and continues to feed you lies anonymously from the other side of this screen, like they're your friends.

You're all alone. Quit. Art is not for you.

Say it with me. Art is not for me.

Art is not for me.

Art is not for me.
Art, is not for me.
Art, is not...for me.

>>3771957
I love how this thread is the most negative in the board currently

>>3772322
>>3772355
>>3772357
>>3772359
>>3772363

It took a truth to reveal just how negative they are underneath their skin.


They pretend to be positive, but they're not.

>>3772616
You’re a fun dude

>>3772617
This thread is a magnet for a 12 year old who wants to have some laughs anonymously on the internet. It's probably all just one dude who keeps coming back. Or maybe 2. When I was 12 I went into an alcoholics anonymous chat and flooded the room with the xeno character saying 'beer beer beer beer' in thought bubbles. That's how old I am. It was microsoft comic chat and the internet hadn't even existed for more than 10 years yet. And for you youngins who were taught the internet was started in the 50s or 60s technically no. The internet as YOU know it, you know, webpages and html, did not exist until the early 90s. And pretty much no one had the internet or a computer until windows 95 when it finally took off, some were slightly late with win 98, and a SMALL handful were early with windows 3-point-whatever. I don't even remember what the number was but I remember what it looked like.

4chan is literally just the old internet. From my foggy crappy memory it's pretty close to how things were until you ended up having to register to do anything and everything. Unless I'm remembering wrong. Which I could be.

>>3772628
You're half right. 12 year old tryhards tried really hard. The internet is a bit older than that and was autistic as fuck before aol but more civil on the whole.

I miss totse.

>>3772289
Lol dude you need more experience with life and the reality of work and success. Your worldview is so skewed it’s literally made you mentally ill. Also your entire post is a projection of your own insecurities, your still valuable as a person even if you arnt employed or not making much money right now anon, *hugs*

>>3772634
I'm totally right about the age of the internet. it was either 91 or 92, I forget now. Whatever year html was invented. Everything before that was dos nonsense and I don't count it. I consider webpages the beginning of what we think of as the internet now. So yah you're probably right in some sense. Maybe emails or telnet I guess you're thinking of telnet and ftp. I actually don't know when ftp came along. What do I know. I was like 8 years old in 91/92. You're probably right. I'm just rambling now. Its close to bedtime. Old man-groans. Night. XD

>>3772603
Hey, post your work :)

>>3772628
>>3772634
>>3772641
>>3772644
>>3772647
There's the dopamine.

Let it sink in. Nothing wrong. Everything is okay.

>>3772628
>4chan is literally just the old internet.
What's the new one?

>>3772603
can you blame me for the cold feet senpai? now get over here and help me eat this fetus you prickly cactus you :)

>>3772690
the normie net .
here from win3.9 and he is right this is essentially what the internet use to be. no youtube no fb no insta just pages with slow loading pictures and people talking mad shit.

>>3772634
i loved totse btw. great place.

>>3772577
>even after rather long periods away
That happens to me too. Maybe that happens when we give our brains some time to create new connections with what we've learned before.

>>3771957
You never gonna make it if you are not talented and draw gay tumblr art.

>>3771957

>>3772748
You just made me realise why I’m still here at 29. It’s the way it’s meant to be damnit

>>3771957
Man this manga is so shit it doesn't really teach much about art at all. All it taught was:

G-pen vs K-pen but this doesn't matter at if you're going digital.
Trace your backgrounds.
Draw only in right or left side view then flip it.

It didnt even taught basic fundamentals.

>>3772871
If you want a manga that teaches you how to draw, read Loomis.

I'm going to make it.

>>3772904
G A N B A T T E

So is anyone actually gonna post their work or...

You guys really are NGMI if you keep getting baited by some retard projecting his insecurities who won't even post his own work. Get back to drawing.

>>3772871
this manga taught me that if you wanna make it, you had to work to the point of ruining your own health...

Am I retarded or is the elbow in OP's pic all sorts of fucked up?

anons, why must we fight, can't we all just get along?

>>3771957
Earlier studies of achievement often emphasized the notion that high-achieving individuals typically possess traits above and beyond that of normal ability.[2][4][5] Duckworth et al. emphasized that grit is a better predictor of achievement than intellectual talent (IQ), because grit serves as the overriding factor that provides the stamina required to "stay the course" amid challenges and setbacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grit_(personality_trait)

>>3773041
tfw you realize that your language as no equivalent for "grit"

>>3773059
What's your language?

>>3773069
french.
We have "perseverance", which was the way I understood grit till now, but reading the wikipedia article shows that it's a slightly different concept

>>3773077
How about "gritoux"?

>>3773078
sounds like a medecine for cold/flu.
could also be the contracted form of "guerris tout" (cure all).

>>3772289
based NGMI poster

>>3773087
Well, gritoux is the cure-all for ngmi-tis

>>3773089
I'll take 3 box of it then.
Wait, is it delivered only on prescription? I need to go see Dr Loomis

>>3773095
brb, going to grind gritoux boxes

>>3773097
lel

>>3773089
>>3773095
>>3773097

>>3773126
kek

>>3773126
based and gritpilled

>>3773126
t-thank you Dr Loomis

>>3773137
are the GRIT(tm) pills red?

>>3773140
They're the color of sweat and tears.

>>3773148
So... they're salty?

>>3773153
Just like all the critics here.

Be straight with me /ic/ am I gonna make it?

>>3773222
How would you rate your grit on a scale from 1 to 10?

>>3773228
3
I'm not that great but I can improve, I think

Hey anon, did you challenge yourself today? Don't forget to go out of your comfort zone, it helps you grow as an artist!

>>3772216
based.

>>3773222
You can make it. You have a cute style than can be very appealing to a certain demographic.

>>3773243
This warms the heart

>>3773222
Not if you keep scratching.

Ima do it, ima get a handle on the fundamentals then make a one shot comic this year!

But i want to do the comic entirely in ballpoint pen. That a bad idea?

I'm gonna make it but you're all ngmi

>>3773222
Fuck no, you're not going to make it. What the hell is wrong with you?

If you get hit with the bad NGMI feels, try automatic drawing. I tend to draw really well after doing this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJYGFwGhHnA

i believe in everyone on this board, as long as you have the dedication to learn and improve i believe in u. keep moving forward. the only way to ensure you never do is to lose faith in urself.

ur g.m.i

>>3776179
Thank you, based Bono

>>3776247
im irish so the nickname actually fits. np anon, keep on truckin

I don't give a fuck about your improvement or progress, anon.

If you're drawing RIGHT NOW, thats a step in the right direction.
Just keep at it.

Have fun and good fortunes!

>>3772620
Fake it till you make it.

All I know is this: if I stopped now 20 years into the future I'd be thinking: "What if?"

What if, boys. What if.

>>3771959
/thread

>>3772040
Fucking newfag. This place has been nothing but a bucket of crabs for the last few years.

>>3772298
This is the most generic shit advice i ever heard, literally ngmi

>>3772849
>quotes a manga about a limp dicked cry baby that gets given the most powerful ability in-universe and an additional 6 get out jail free cards.

>>3771959
>>3772175
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMfOMsoWtU

holy shit, thank you. fuck these anti-social edgelord loners.

whatever. fuck this negativity, you're NGMI to a fulfilling life if you're always a piece of fucking trash to others. thanks again.

>>3773222
yep.

but not if you look for others' approval all the time.

>>3772192
We're all gonna make it, bruv