/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3677947
I think you should do more drawings and less paintings. Your distaste for color and paint shows through in every painting.

>>3677972
What are you talking about? I love painting and color. I don't like drawing much.

>>3677976
That guy was trying to be nice, what he meant was that no, you are NOT good, that shit is gross.

>>3677976
The best pieces you and illastrat have done are drawings.

>>3677980
What's wrong with you? Just enjoy the painting.

>>3677985
Show me which ones? I am a painter. I don't like drawing much

>>3677987
He asked and i answered.

The neon colors hurt my eyes and the scratchy brush work makes me sad

>>3677995
You answered wrong you delusional ruan jia sakimichan fan

My art is not illustration or traditional realism/academicism. It's contemporary painting.

>>3677947
sorta, the marks and colours are A+ the subject makes it look like shit though

Illastrat is better

>>3677947
is this old? looks a lot more like your early auerbachy stuff then more recent things

>>3678078
Well I have a lot of contempt for it

>>3677947
You are a creep. The focus of your paintings is always a woman's breasts. You are worse than Sakimi in that regard. At least she's self-aware of selling sex to an audience. While you are witlessly illustrating patterns of your deeply repressed sexuality in every painting.

>>3678103
have you seen art before? the female nude is 90% of figurative paintings

Chunbum, fuck off

>>3678135
You are full of love and respect.

>>3678112
Exactly. SmART

>>3678103
I am creep by radiohead. I am a creep. I am a weirdo. Oh oh she's running out run run run run

>>3678101
Contempt poraneous you are

>>3678091
Maybe he is.

>>3678100
You got a phd in my biography

>>3678150
I've been doing some reasearch, and right now I'm pretty convinced that Chunbum is one of Illastrat's many sock puppet accounts. Your thoughts on this?

>>3678155
Umm each of us thinks of himself as being better artist than the other. Our art styles are completely different. That's a pretty big hint that we are not the same person. Every time i post something here illastrat's gf replies "illastrat is better" so there you go. We are not the same person.

>>3678155
he predates illastrat and is way better, so good research bud

>>3678162
Illashit has been trolling the internet since at least 2006 you fucking nog
both of them were on DA and /ic/ for a whiel, and Chunbum even defended Illastrat's work on DA, which was literally only ever done by sock puppet accounts of his. No original person ever complimented his art.

>>3677947
>Am I good?
Why would you even ask? You are a delusional little asian cunt, Chun. You don't listen. All you ever do is say "but my teachers loved it!"

Go paint yourself as tigers and gorillas and don't shit up /ic/ you manchild.

>>3678078
>It's contemporary painting.
what makes you think that? Nothing about it is even close to a genuine understanding of painting. Your paintings are typically filled with hobby artist mistakes, carelessly mixed color slobs and a total lack of composition, especially at the edge of the painting (something you completely ignore, you just paint your stick figures and hope they don't come too close to the edges).

>>3678177
holy kek is Chun >>3677966 >>3677993?

>>3678180
None of that is true. You are seeing problems that don't exist. You are not seeing the merits of the painting that do exist.

>>3678101
based

I don't think chuns gonna be big cause he's always painting the same fucking woman which shows the limit of his imagination/skills but he will make it into a gallery one day, not that that's a hard thing these days

>>3678213
he only posts certain things here, if you look him up he has landscapes and such, he does tend to focus on pretty lame pictures of boobgirls though

Why do i get not much attention as illastrat here? Is illastrat better? XD

>>3677947
>Am I good?
There are no right or wrong answers guy, I think it is good. It's abstract enough for me to like it but not too abstract so that I have to spend 10 minutes staring at it trying to decipher it.

You should try to palette-knife painting, that would suit your style I think. Pointillism stuff like pic related, but in your own style of colour composition.

>>3678465
My painting was done with palette knife and acrylic

>>3678078
>Traditional art thread
>Brings up digital artists
i think you are unironically retarded by now, i'm leaving this thread.

>>3678646
I am saying many of you are into digital art and applying the standards of digital art into fine art which is my art

Don't leave!! We will have a great time xD

My drawing is not bad

>>3678659
try harder plz

>>3678683
In what way
it is a loose style

>>3678744
>It's my style

Lmao

>>3678760
"It's my style"
"Lmao"
Wow dude you know nothing about art

>>3678659
>that arm

>>3678659
wtf is that fucking arm

>>3678659
Fucking kek.
This guy is such a delusional narcissist it's unbelievable.

>>3678659
everyone is talking about the arm, but i'm more wondering about that horrific belly,

>>3678798
It's his style

>>3678798
is that you brian? still exerting tard strength on your pencils?

>>3678839
uhhhh i dont think the post warranted this response.

>>3678659
>symbol drawing
read the fucking sticky

>>3679166
It's experimental art. You can call it symbol drawing
Yes symbol drawing and muh style are superior to your fundamental - polished kitsch art

>>3679139
>uhhhh
You have been posting here for a while now, this is neither the first nor will it be the last display of unbelievable ignorance and narcissism

>>3678465
eww, i'm not sure if you're joking or what, but no-one should paint like that

>>3679373
this is lazy trolling man come on

>>3679619
i think you are assuming i am the artist of that pic

>>3678101
fucking kek'd

Anyone who is a fan of my art should join the vincent artists club. Find it on disboard

>>3680200
all you ever do is paint yourself as a stick figure woman

>>3680200
ooooh look at thaaat!
the title is in latin!!! so expensive, so smaaart!
"homo pulchrus" ... the beautiful people!

wooooow aren't you a smart and sophisticated fella, eh? your art must be soooooo truly inspired and good! title in latin, as to invoke the highest intellectual merits. is that something your teacher recommended? the one that tells you that all your paintings are "great"? the one you are too scared to post his works?

>>3677947

>Why can't I ...
>paint anything anatomically correct?

>>3680200
this is a pretty cool painting

>>3680383
You are really ugly

>>3680383
I actually had one.. two.. three. Four.. five.. six.. seven teachers (after high school) tell me my art is great. So...

Any final suggestions before i call this painting finished?

Low resolution pic of my latest painting

>>3681015
Art teachers are usually garbage, my art is beg tier and I was told it's great too. You are a retarded narcissist my man

>>3681015
Hate to break it to you but thats what every art teacher does. So...

>>3681196
If you told me a 6th grader did this i wouldnt bat an eye

>>3680383
Futue te ipsum, amicum. Lingua Latina pulcher est, et quia cuipiam catamito thread concacat, ne significet Latinam cacatam est.

>>3681209
It's not equal. Art teachers in middle or high school are different from college instructors and professors. My teachers have really high standards and are hard to please. They demand excellence and accept only hard work.

You guys have never been to top tier art schools.

>>3677947
It's so good that you're now able to make modern art masterpieces, all you need now is:

>Wacky get up
>blank serious stare
>a good photographer
>be vauge of what you say
>have a good really PR person

Do this and rich snobs will be buying your work because they don't know what to do with all their cash.

>>3681222
ehoi! quod licet iovi non licet bovi.

>>3681240
I am more proud of
>3681196
than the painting in the original post

>>3681233
Neither have you, apparently

>>3677947
wouldn't enter that into any competitions that's for sure. composition is disturbing in a "not on purpose" kind of way. Color balance is lacking. obvious lack of knowledge of human form. "abstract" is not a valid cover word for "amateur" . Have you considered acrylic pouring?

>>3677976
in order to paint you'll have to learn to draw too
or else you end up with a polished turd

>>3681196
Hitler stache ftw

>>3681258
amateur doesn't mean bad, you should get a better attitude, or use the right words if you do have a good attitude but just bad english, either way

>>3681258
it's also not a great use of 'abstract' btw, good enough for general use but not the right word if you're using art lingo

>>3681276
I am not amateur. I have occasionally spoiled tomatoes mixed with ripened bananas. That's because my art is experimental. I am constantly experimenting and shifting the goals and techniques.

Just because some of my works aren't my best doesn't mean every work of mine sucks. I am not amateur, for sure.

>>3681276
>>3681279
>>3681285

"experimental" "contemporary" "abstract" all the synonyms of the incapable to clothe the amateur nature of their work. Everyone that paints prolifically has some bad mixed with the good, but everything I've seen you post so far has the same beginner qualities. It's honest criticism and nothing worse than any honest gallery owner or curator will tell you when you try to show. Hiding behind those meme words as opposed to being humble enough to take the hits and improve will only result in an amateur who's been painting for 30 years. It's not about longevity or will to perform, it's about maturing as an artist. Your composition is lacking, your strokes are forced, your tones are incoherent and your understanding of the figure is junior high school level. Experimental works a lot better when you have mastered the basics.

>>3681293
Show me an example of work that satisfies you.

You are describing something that is not my art but something else. You are seeing things that are not there. None of your criticisms apply.

I am told by my professor that i have a knack for coming up with strong compositions. Some people say my sense of composition is as strong as my instincts with color.

>>3681233
Give us an example of your work that your teacher called bad

>>3681296
>"none of your criticisms apply"

That seems like a go to statement for you. Your professor gets paid to tell you shit like that. The real world doesn't care what what your professor or friends think about your artwork. Lots of people say lots of things. Step outside of yourself for a minute and choose more than the sycophants that stroke your ego for one reason or another.
You posted a thread asking if you are good and the the objective answer is that you have a long way to go. Maybe next time you should post with the title of "look how good I am" if that's all you are receptive to.

>>3681296
>>3681300

>>3681296

>>3681296

Just a few examples. If sensuality is what you are going for, there is a subtlety that is absolutely necessary. you don't display the sensitivity of touch that evokes emotion. Your strokes are everywhere. Your palette across the paintings posted is inconsistent and unfocused. These few paintings I've posted are short on detail but big on composition and color. They are delicate even with thick paints and impasto. The figures are balanced and if they were actual 3 dimensional would stand without assistance. There's re to say but it's be a book worth of things just for you to say "your criticisms don't apply"

>>3681316
also please pardon my millions of typos.

>>3681296
Oh your sense of composition is about as strong as your sense of color alright

>>3681329
lel'd

OP go kill yourself you suck.

>>3681310
>>3681312
>>3681316
These are pretty nice anon, made me more interested in looking into these kinds of paintings.

>>3681335
not mine or my style of painting, but the best example I could find in a rush. I think they're amazing. Pretty sure the last one is digital tho.

>>3681316
Eww look at that trendy POS

>>3681337
Aw i like it
Yeah its a bit Leonid Afromov hotel art-y but the nose stretch is pretty good and i like the depth of the torso

>>3681337
trendy or not, it's a good example for OP amirite?

>>3677947
>Am I good?
No

You don’t listen to the advise you are given, so it is impossible for you to make progress.
Even though you are heavy on the impasto, your figures are stoic and flat.

Stop posting here

>every single person tells OP he sucks
>it must be that everyone else is wrong

>>3681497
There is occasional person here who tells me my art is good.

The real world is the world of professionals, teachers and peers. That's the art world.

The real world you speak of is not the artworld. It's a layman's world. This "real world" you speak of is not the real art world. It only appreciates kitsch art such as these:

>>3681316
>>3681312
>>3681310
These seem slightly kitschy and decorational.

I've had professional artists tell me my art is good. Teachers and peers tell me the same. That's the real world. The real art world. You guys on ic are living in a bubble. You say "welcome to the real world" but this is not the art world. You are a nobody in the art world.

You guys trash on me and illastrat but we are the best in this forum. My professor called illastrat excellent for painting in style of walter robinson. You guys are delusional as hell. Beyond saving.

>>3681528
Kitsch is not a valid concept imo. would you like to define what that means?

>these are the types of "artists" who get attention from /ic/
Time to leave this shithole. Makes no sense posting here.

>>3681530
Kitsch is anything that is not experimental art and does not share authentic qualities of honesty and rawness. If it's staged or forced it's kitsch. Most of illustration and anime is kitsch.

Ppl you love are kitsch. Not fine art.
Ruan jia? Kitsch
Sakimichan? Kitsch
Firez? Kitsch
Concept artists? Kitschy

I don't want to make art that is kitsch. In the art world that is unacceptable. Welcome to the real world, friends.

>>3677947
Looks like shit. Too blobby to look nice amd not blobby enough to look ironically nice

>>3678659
Nice Trex arm

>>3681536
>Kitsch is anything that is not experimental art and does not share authentic qualities of honesty and rawness.

Throwing around a bunch of words like "authentic qualities" and "honesty" and "rawness" doesn't mean shit. You are incapable of dissecting what is meant to be Kitsch. And honestly it's kind of backwards thinking to consider any consumer art as kitsch, as Art is first and foremost also a craft. Avant Garde was born and had its time providing a new conversation and perspective to what is art, however it has outlived its purposes, and honestly, the garbage shitpile you are making is more unironically kitsch.

It's mass produced ( in the name of being experimental ) low quality garbage ( low skill with no regards of elements of design ) done in the name of "high art" ( that's more or less mainstream, seriously you're not the first nor the last boasting yourself of going/went to art school and became the reincarnated post-modernism genius )

Also yes, I went to art school and studied all of this. And no you're not special.

>>3681624
You went to a shitty art school then
Your opinion means very little

>>3681654
damn you got me good with that one.

>>3681655
I am not trying to get you
I am simply speaking the truth

>>3681242
Haha par est ut dicis.

>>3681624
What beautiful artwork.

>>3681528
you're fucking hopeless dude. taking the word of your professors as your primary validation exposes your lack of knowledge of the "real art world". Art schools are full of mommy's favorite artist. This is you. I'm sure someone will gladly reuse those canvases you are wasting when they land in the goodwill for 2 bucks. Good luck with your future career at starbucks.

>>3681769
its risd tho, not just any school

>>3681769
Don't waste your breath as we all have here, OP is a complete basket case and will hopefully get to a therapist in a few years. Sadly, he is the exact kind of person that will never go to a psychologist to get diagnosed.

>>3681801
I am at sva now. I left risd long time ago

My art

>>3677947
People here won't cease to criticize you, but I think it's endlessly fascinating! It all flows like a river all around the body, as if made by layers of star rock that intertwine with each other while maintaining their individual threads. It gives a sense of formation, one can imagine the woman as part of the artwork's creation, perhaps as if sustaining it, as if sustaining the possibility of a larger mess that could spill over and flood the whole of the drawing! Those parts that flow away from the streams, make it look as scintillating terminals that have some ambiguous quality as they fuse with the darkness of the background (say as in the right) (though in the left it looks rather more like a wound in the background) (as if some kind of sickness was combining with the whole. The hair looks fiery, and this clearly constrats with how the cold body feels like (say embracing + intimate + bluish + whitish) And well there are countless other things I could enumerate but my point is this artwork shows the genius of the author's intuition! (Don't listen to people who insist on composition and color rules)

>>3680200
Chun, I'll never understand why you keep posting here seeking validation in your work. You graduated from the Rhode Island School of Design and that was not enough for you? Deflate your ego and join a community of peers in real life.

>>3682024
They had almost convinced me that the painting is not all that great but you saved me

>>3682025
>>3681851
Oh, my mistake. Didn't realize you switched schools nor graduated yet. Anyway, you're at an expensive as fuck art school full of other artists seeking criticism just like you and you squander the opportunity for people to judge your work in person to post digital reproductions on a slow-ass unproductive board? Come on.

I really find it so wild that you have continued to post here for the past 6-7 years. I guess you're a masochist.

>>3681528
Your teachers must be exhausted having you come in every two weeks with another retarded painting desperately asking them if it's good. And showing them illastrats work and demanding a positive opinion. The real students must find you insufferable too because I know the teachers do.

This is an oil painting I made on some type of unknown coated fabric. What do you think of it, OP? If, by merit of this painting, you consider me and you peers then I would like to give you a couple of pointers in regards to your own artwork

>am I good?
>*Majority of thread says no, some offer advice*
>well you are just wrong. something something real art world

What the fuck am I reading? Is this what it's like to be around an insufferable, mentally ill person?

>>3681528
Then stop posting here and escape this bubble. I haven't been on here in 4 years and I have been very productive working on my own practice. Focus on what what your professors say and what your peers at sva say. You have a choice to not be a part of this community or win people over.

>>3682052
All he has to do is call it kitsch and you're career ends. Rip

>>3682052
It looks like a student work to me

I come here because I love you guys

>>3681015
If you believe your art is great, you're never going to get better.

Kyla I revised

>>3678183
fuck off you trolling piece of shit. this art is really bad by every metric other than your own fucking moronic opinion.

>>3683662
No your opinion is bad. My opinion is good.

>>3681296
You clearly aren’t wanting honest feedback. Maybe the mommies at reddit will hold your hand and tell you what you want to hear. They’ll compliment anything.

>>3683728
kill yourself

>>3684137
You need help

>>3684144
>this painting with that caption

>>3681536
>Kitsch is anything that is not experimental art
Fucking really, bro? Are you real right now?

>>3677947
Holy shit this board got slow. It's been years since I visited until recently but a 5 day old thread on page one?

What happened to the redlines and since when did all the weeb shit become acceptable here? Sucks. I used to love this board.

Also OP your "work" is shit. SVA must not be so picky with entry portfolios like they were when I went. New York will eat your retarded ass alive if you act like this IRL. Your quest for validation is equally pathetic to your inability to accept criticism.

>>3681624
Great work of art. And great comment.

>>3684258
All the good people left due to the negativity, while bad people like OP thrive in negativity.

>>3684358
I am not here for negativity. Cant you people be positive for once?

I am never going to change the way I paint

Revised

>>3684358
ironic post you're being negative yourself

>>3677947
no

>>3685001
Exactly
>>3685019
Yessss

>>3684258
>>3684998
>>3685019
his women are godawful, because he imagines himself, dressed as a woman who does a Paper Mario Cosplay.

e.g. >>3680374

>>3686517
That was 8 years ago

>>3677947
No, learn some basics of drawing.
See your painting improve because of it.

>>3686532
Drawing is illustration
It's bad

>>3686565
>Making drawings with paints dissolves the need to learn any fundamentals of drawing.
>Muh material choices means that I can ignore fundamentals.
Idiot, learn.
>Paintings can't be illustrations.
Akshualleh, illustrations are pictures for written works, so even paintings can be used for it.

Stop being cognitive dissonant and read some Loomis, fool.

>>3678659
>not bad
sure as shit aint good

>>3681316
that painting is dope I want to rip it off

>>3686590
And mine isn't? I am greatly offended.

>>3686575
Painters don't like illustrations. Painting > illustration

>>3677947
>ask if art is good
>"no"
>gets triggered

why post art on /ic/ if you can't handle negative opinions and critiques?

>>3686694
Because they are not based in truth

>>3686685
Paintings are also illustrations you drug-addict.

>>3686714
if they are """"objectively""""" wrong then why waste your time?

>>3686685
>And mine isn't? I am greatly offended.
honestly I wouldn't really know where to start if I wanted to rip off your aesthetic.

I need more attention like a sunflower needing more sunlight