/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3593485
not sure if you can see it, but i drew another picture using "flow". the concept is still foggy to me though. but according to nsio-sama, it says to use the whole body in motion.

>>3593485
had to flip it.

>>3593485
Tried to draw some anime girl from the last thread. Let me know if you fap to it!

>>3593458
expecting critique

>>3593544
The biggest thing I notice is a lack of rhythm. Mike Mattesi has a fantastic book called Force which explains the concept well. Loomis also talks about rhythm in one of his books but I don't remember which.

>>3593548
s-sauce on mike pls

should I buy 90g or 120g sketchbooks, there's also 200g ones but I don't think that's for just pencil and pen sketching

>>3593512
There is nothing that is visually appealing enough to stimulate male arousal in this picture to fap to.

>>3593544
i can't read the poses from your drawings

you don't communicate where there is a stretch and where there is a contraction

be more aware of what is behind something and what is infront of something
and draw less of the contour and more of the action

>>3593554
doesn't really matter until you're going to use something wet, so a bit thicker is better if you're using a pen with a nib

>>3593561
so the heavier one is thicker right?

>>3593564
Yes.

>>3593566
ok thanks

>>3593548
Thanks for your recommendation.
>>3593560
Is your image a legit example for gesture drawings?
>you don't communicate where there is a stretch and where there is a contraction
Yes, I see

How a can get More confident lines?
>Just draw
Yeah but the lessons of drawabox works?

Do some of you experience pain in the marked areas after a while (or even after a few minutes of drawing?).

>>3593621
relax

>>3593621
Are you pressing too hard?

>>3593621
no

Is drawing with my wrist a detriment to my advancement of drawing skills or is it not that bad toward general improvement?

How much do you use shoulder and elbow movements compared to the wrist movements?

>>3593628
No, that's what I am actively watching out for as well as a not to too tight grip on the pen(cil). That's pretty much an issue that's holding me back from drawing for quite a while (writing included).

I haven't drawn in 6 months, but I wasn't great then either.

>>3593630
Dont worry about it, youll start using shoulder and elbow automatically when you're ready, It might seem like magic. But youll stary doin it unintentionally when you are good enough.

Is loomis book worth it?. I am improving, but i dont think that i woul ever need to draw old man faces ever again

I have a problem of only doing basic box constructions and stopping there.
The motivation is gone the moment i get the pose/ idea down.

It made me realize i'm not really interesting in "Drawing" ie doing uber rendering etc but getting the ideas in my head out on paper.
An example idea is a scene of an alleyway with a girl being raped while people walk by but another guy is playing lookout/ staring down anyone a bit too curious.

Once i get the layout down and the construction for the characters i lose absolute interest in going further.

I wonder what changes can i make to have at least simply rendered characters without the basic construction, that way it looks somewhat okay and not a mass bunch of lines.

>>3593711
The old man faces are just an excercise, keep reading.

How am I supposed to draw from imagination?
I draw one thing multiple times but a week later, I completely forget about it.

>>3593692
Please tell me how to improve this, frens

Watching a Ross Draws interview.

>>3593725
Will do, ty

>>3593741

quit

Did a head study from reference using ma boy loomis

>>3593755
God I hate that faggot

>>3593786
Why?

>>3593741
How are we supposed to help you if you don't care enough yourself to read the sticky and watch or read tutorials on the internet?

Hoping to get some critique on these 5 minute poses. Started off with gesture and then tried to apply some construction to the gestures.

>>3593807
I am tho.

>>3593692
>get ignored
Reeeeeeeeee

>>3593788
cause he a jelly crab bro why else? he just a happy artist doing his thing getting money and shit. they hate cause they crabs

>>3593904
usually when you are ignored you are too good for these fags to help you. but in your case... it was a lost cause sorry.

>>3593908
What makes it so bad? It's not as good as my old art, but I kinda like it

>>3593572
nope, it's more of construction and feeling the forms

here's a gesture image - from vilppu drawing manual

>>3593560
nope, it's more of construction and feeling the forms

here's a gesture image - from vilppu drawing manual

>>3593840
these are pretty good
great job anon

>>3593980
Where's the benis?

>>3593981

>>3593485
Thanks for making my boxes the OP.
Now if I can do something that makes the OP of /alt/, then I can die happy.

>>3594009
being OP image of /beg/ doesn't mean shit. I've been OP of /beg/

>>3593904
There's nothing to critique, he doesn't even have legs or a face because you dont know how to draw them so you just didnt. You have to actually try. Watch a tutorial or read a book or something

>>3593722
Throw on some light.

>>3593741
Forgetting means you never really knew.

Why do most anime /beg/s start off with Jojo or generic naked anime girl?

Critique/insult my work, you filthy incels

>>3594144
Looks like it was made shitty on purpose.

>>3593963
this was for
>>3593572

Can someone please rate this? It's my first ever digital painting and I wanted to see if I did any good... thank you...

>>3594139
I don't even know why people even want to draw chinese cartoon characters because they look so fucking stupid.

People think that they can skip the anatomy by drawing them, but they need to realise that they NEED to know anatomy to draw any character, so they will continue to draw their chinese styled characters with pointy chins then pass it off and go watch some jewish propaganda on tv and call whatever show they watch an interest.

>>3594195
This, just not as aggressive. While I personally see Jap drawing as nothing more then creative void and originality abyss masked with eye candy, you have to think positives. More retards sticking themselves for that shit of dreaming to earn thousands per month for drawing anime porn with abysmal proportion, less competition for you.

>>3594184
What do you think of it? Should have started with self reflection and criticism, so maybe we know where to begin.

my brain can't even begin to understand intersection

>>3594198
Very very true.

I see peoples drawings of little characters that they have drawn on advertisements or little leaflets advertising whatever it is that they are advertising and they always try to draw them in the jap style and they always never look right.

Why's that?
It's because they didn't put any effort into learning to draw and said to themselves "I know, I will draw it mango style because people associate greatness with japanese things, therefore I can pass this off as decent at the very least, without having to put much work in"

Can I get good at art while homeless using free Ikea pencils and drawing on the blank parts of newspapers?

>>3594215
If you're homeless and really want to draw then I can't see why not.

>>3593485
Fucking help me pls. What do
>>3593560
ok this looks great desu
>>3594103
Nice shading! have you considered adding ambient lighting over shadows?
>>3593785
You should try lifting the left cheeks a bit and copying one of the eyes and pasting it to either side. I'd suggest you to flip your canvas constantly.

>>3594265
Lemme fix my post for a bit: I'm having trouble with hair. I'm converting this to digital but I don't know how.
I tried tutorials on adding colors to traditional illustrations but either I keep on getting bad results or I just hate how shit turns out.
atm I'm looking for mistakes that I probs can't see. What's wrong with this?

>>3594300
Lord Farquaad?

>>3594144
try again

Discord link expired

What do you think anons. I suck at drawing hair

>>3594345
Well I personally think that the hair is not too bad.
Just need to organise the spacing of the eyes nose and mouth by dividing the head length in half, then divide each half into thirds for accurate hairline, eye, nose and mouth spacing.

>>3594348
Yeah the face looks weird now that I look at it. I'm gonna redraw it and use guidelines rather than eyeballing it

>>3593963
Thanks man! I take it that there's no major flaws with the poses then which is good.

>>3594350
I am trying skulls.
I need to work on eye sockets and teeth the most.

>>3593904
Thanks for this, I'll try drawing this. Pretty cool concept, Anon

Does this look like a cat in a construction helmet, or more like a demon sent from hell?

>>3594454
Looks like the MC from that manga about the stacked elf girl who wants to fuck her pet kitten

>>3594359
I feel like you try to do too much at one time, like I can see you trying to get the skull anatomy right but at the same you did something with painting, you won't learn much this way

>>3594459
I'm flattered and intrigued.

>>3593933
they look like something youd doodle in high school and they are on lined paper which means you couldnt be bothered to get some clean printer paper

>>3594467
It's called "I'm Living as The Pet of an Elf Girl" I think

>>3594472
I'm not actually going to jerk off to that, man.
Just putting that out there for myself more than anyone else.
Good on you for delivering, though.

>>3593485
First time digitally drawing at all. I tried copying the Wowee emote. I read the sticky and know what to do in order to improve. I want to know what you guys think of this garbo

>>3594484
Forgot to post image

>>3594484
>>3594487
I used Krita to draw this btw

>>3594487
What do you think anons are supposed to say, compared to what you think they would actually say... to that?

>>3594491
Constructive criticism, what other way do you think learning works?

>>3594493
read loomis, and construct this dog face with it

>>3594491
General opinion and criticism, I'm curious

>>3594501
>>3594487
general opninion: it's shit, very /beg/ tier and I don't know why you posted it

>>3594522
I see the trolls from england are on here again.
Someone should draw a person from england with unbrushed yellow food chompers at their computer making shit posts.

Can I get good JUST with Loomis?

I tried drawing a proper outfit/costume for the first time. What do you think anons? I think i should have searched for a reference for the pants

>>3594530
Getting good will most likely be a several year long journey with different tutorials, books and reference images and you will try lots of different things.

This is a quick sketch
Any guides or videos you recommend me watch to get better

>>3594536
Spend a bit more time doing the chin because it's quite pointy.

>>3594536
>have loomis head sketch
>mouth is not centered
>eyes not below the parallel
Do you hate yourself? Do you want to be miserable and keep failing? I hope not. If not then re read the pages and start again and don't just skip drawing funny faces, if you did just that you would not have made as many mistakes you did.

Want to get into industrial design. I'm not smooth with a pen at all yet, kinda ruined it with the outlines but whatever.

>>3594536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSAXB2NHqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymp3748rXEE

>>3593648
You should be able to draw/write at least for half an hour even without constant practice. After that your hand may get tired but you should not be getting any pain. Do you do any hard physical work? You may have damaged tendons in your hand.

>>3593548
but how do you use that book?

>>3594581
You read it.

>>3594471
Okay I get get non-lined paper. How else am I supposed to fix it though? Is it the content that's unappealing or some aspect of the way I draw it that makes it bad?

>>3594617
Why should it matter that you drew on lined paper?
Who the fuck is he?
He seems to be mad that he can't draw as well as you can if you ask me anything.

>>3594533
Looks nice. Could probably do with more definition where the breast meets the arm.

>>3594378
I appreciate it.
If you want to know exactly what it is, to maybe incorporate what I am gonna add or do what I did better...
He's supposed to be in a parking garage (hence the sign)but I know I didn't get it across too well in the pic. The lines and shapes on his chest are going to glow and I might add more later.
Oh! Also he can move around the cieling puddle of himself by using his hands to walk along the floor and pulling his body along above it. Pic related to show it. Idk if you wanted to include this or not, but I thought I'd share it since you liked the concept.

>>3594562
I like it

>>3594536
Need to be less rigid, dont always think shapes, try to visualise subject on paper

How am I meant to translate this into imagination?

>>3594669
You get a feeling for what looks right I guess?

is there some kind of drawing road map I can follow so I can start drawing sexy muscle girls?

>>3594719
Fun with a pencil is step one.

so stiff desu

I SUFFER

>>3594773
fap. It makes the stiffness go away.

>>3594781
Did you purposely make them all look suicidal?

>>3594726
and steps 2 through 5?

>>3594801
Are revealed once you've finished step one.

idk why everytime I sit down to draw I can't help but feel very uncomfortable and angry at everything I make

>>3594864
I'm afraid it's autism and there's no cure for that

>>3594865
ty

>>3594869
np

how I make pointy face with loomis method

>>3594874
have you actually read his book?

bondage!

>>3594669
>>3594669
draw it over and over and memorize

I'm really fucking bad at this

>>3594884
keep going anon you can do it

>>3594884
Yeah, the old man faces are weirdly hard to draw.

>>3593998
>the wink
lol

practicing some perspective amd foreshortening. why does this look a little off to me?

>>3594884
I was doing that exact exercise a couple hours ago. I think the hard part is thinking outside the box and creating new shapes for the cheeks/nose/mouth.

>>3594144
Try fliping the image. You can see all the flaws with the anatomy. You could also make the background darker so that the figure stands out more.

>>3594201
I am sorry, you are right.

I am personally proud of it. I think it looks not realistic ENOUGH. And I do not like the colours being all chalky, but i can't fix that for some reason.

Thank you.

>>3593722
do a bunch of rough sketches and come back to them later and of course practice more

is this a good cat eating spegt?

>>3594955
looks like a rat being fed a snek

>>3594617

if youre content with your art why come for advice

>>3594992
wrong kinda content brah

>>3594884
>>3594889
I picked up drawing in january and only did loomis for the first time last week, you'll get there, just keep working

>>3594920
the angle on the head seems like it doens't match the angle on the rest of the body

>>3595026
what are you using to draw?

this board is so fucking dead

>>3595142

right now, medibang

>>3595147
I mean what sorta device?

>>3595146
>drawing board
>being dead

You're supposed to be drawing or studying right now anon, not shitposting

>>3594644
Thanks, I'll try to make his lower body able to do that. I thought he was floating kek

Hey guys.

New to this section etc.

I've been doing a little bit of drawing and painting this year. Thought I would share something and check out this thread.

So here's a self-portrait.

>>3595146

bet you're f5ing this thread so you can take comfort in other people being just as shit as you. apply yourself and fucking draw idiot!!!!!!

>>3595148
a huion tablet

>tfw no ctrl+z in real life
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

from the depths of hell, it rises

>>3595196
>not drawing digitally
might as well go back to shitting in the bushes too

>>3595192
how big is the learning curve to draw without seeing your hand on the screen?

>>3595165
I liked your anatomy so I drew your dude.

>>3595216
You get used to within a week or so

my CSP just updated reset EVERYTHING. all my brushes fuckin gone
FUCK I MAD

is Draw With Jazza a spook? some of his vids, like where he rated all the free programs, feel like they're lowkey sponsored bullshit

Hello, very new drawfag here, i would like to learn how to draw because i want to improve my own personal skills (in fact, i mainly want to draw some waifu shit with a bit of my own fetishes but hey, a start is a start). So i would like some advice. I read a bit of the One-Stop Beginners' Guide in /ic/ but even so, i don't really know where to start...should i begin with perspective learning ? is "perspective made easy", by Ernest Norling is really interesting for a shitty beginner like me or should i focus in something else ?

>>3595289
TMI
you could have completely erased everything before "I read" and that would have been just fine
yeah learn perspective and do whatever shitty boring exercises that guy tells you to do. you're not gonna get to start drawing trap gardevoirs day 1

>>3595172
Me again.

>>3595289
You should start by making drawing a habit.

>>3595172
northernlion wyd

>>3595289
perspective made easy is a good start
you'll going to have to learn it anyways, and it's very rewarding

I also recommend the Marshal Wandruff videos, they are often shared around here, but are just 12$ to buy:
http://marshallart.com/SHOP/all-products/all-videos/1994-perspective-drawing-series/

>>3595300
Lol, this guy?

>>3595305
This is me.

>pokes your nose

First time posting, rip it up and tell me what I'm doing wrong. The character is a Kriegsman Grenadier / Killzone Commando Inspired soldier for my /tg/ world I'm rolling with some friends.

>>3595213
Its better for the environment

I’m really falling in love with drawing again. I’m almost ready to take the leap of going into street art.

>>3595360
i really hate these "big head, small neck" caricatures to death. and seeing that you also use it with cartoons is even worse.

>>3595360
>>3595368
caricatures is art for normies who don't know what good art is my dood, when drawing, we have to decide if its for ourselves, or for commerce.

>>3595370
no those tiny neck caricatures really stirr something up in me. i don't know, i really get angry and physically ill seeing them. like i'd love to find the guy who started that and punch him in the fucking guts.

>>3595370
I hate my work and currently unemployed , I’m in debt and don’t own a car. All I ever wanted was to be Able to make money to pay the bills .and Do what makes me happy, I would draw anything to get there. Charicatures just feel like something I could feasibly do for some return. I’m on fiver but have not gotten a bite, I have been meaning to update and do social media but constant stress of rent and food hang over my head, this makes me nervous and creativity and that kind of stress dose not mix well.

>>3595387
that's fine, you know. you can draw whatever makes you happy. thing is, i just happen to hate this recurring element in caricatures of just giving them a thin neck and that's supposed to somehow make them look more funny.
i've been drawing caricatures all through my school years and have gotten really good at it. i learned that one teacher still has that one caricature i drew of him hanging in his kitchen, even after ten years. i never did the straw-neck bs, though. with teachers, i had the chance of grasping what kind of face they pull, quite unconsciously, and i'd be trying to get that into the drawing, which ends up being the thing that defines them when other people look at the drawing.
a caricature isn't just copying a face from a photo and making the nose bigger or whatever. you still need to pin point some sort of essence of the person and that essence may not show in your family photo smile.

>>3595383
It’s just an exaggeration of a human form though..... I’m not in love with the esthetic but it’s a popular phenomenon to pop art. Sort of like zombies to fiction.

>>3595391
You should post what you mean. The straw neck emphasizes the blown up features. I don’t like to draw it because it messes with my learning and perception of anatomy. As far as the essences goes. I think your over thinking a quick charicature. You just have to describe the overall rhythm of the forms..... porko uses spirit animals I don’t know.

>>3595272
how do you reset csp manually?

>>3595410
pretty sure you hold shift when you click Paint in the launcher. it then gives you an option to reset everything

>>3595413
thanks

>>3595405
i don't really care what proko teaches. what do you want me to elaborate on? I mean it the way I wrote it. to me, a caricature of a person can only work, if you have talked or seen that person in real life. the way they act, move, what faces they make when they talk, little quirks and peculiarities … that is how i want to approach a caricature. i find it very uninspiring to get a photo sent and a request of "drawing that photo as a caricature" of a person i have never met. even worse, if the photo is like a 550x900px identification card studio photo (happened to me exactly this way once). you wonder how stupid people can be.
all you can do at this point is exaggerate features superficially. you have never seen the behavior of that person and you can only scratch the surface. that's why a lot of caricatures end up being funny in the first second and then quickly become "meh" and you don't even want to look at them anymore.

>>3595428
I would just like to see an example of your work.

>>3595433
this is just doodling from videos i've watched

>>3595438
* and i don't pre-sketch either, i just go right at it with a felted pen or fineliner, 0.5.

>>3595441
You should try it. You would have better flow with your geometry.

>>3595447
i don't see that it's needed. slightly being off makes a drawing more interesting. you can redline what you mean.
i prefer freehand drawing to loomis method or other crutches.

>>3595449

Your art looks amateur and unappealing as it is now. But if that's how you want it to be then be my guest.

>>3595452
are you this guy? >>3595360

>>3595452
obligatory pyw

>>3595387
You should get a stable job, even if it's just fast food or retail or something. Stability is a really important component of psychological health; a stable but crappy situation is often preferable to a better but unstable situation. You might be surprised at how happy it'll make you if you have reliable money coming in.

>>3595470
I got an hvac education and certificate recently because I had too. I wished I chosen web designe or something that actually interesting to me.but went the safe rout out of fear and pear pressure. But I hate it, I hate even the thought of going to interviews on monday and pretending that I want to clean ducts and drains for a crappy salery and long hours. Then ride the shitty bus only to have time to sleep and do it again when maybe I could just go on the beach walk and draw my problems away. (Self portrait)

what is wrong with this?

Hey guys, I'm literally just beginning to try and learn how to draw here. I have no drawing skill right now and I'm trying to learn how to be decent. Been trying to improve with a tablet that I own and SAI since I believe the only thing that will matter in the future is learning how to work digitally.

Anyway, I was told the best way to improve learning how to draw for beginners especially when working digitally is by drawing circles, lines, and cubes over and over again so that's what I've been doing for a while now. Is there a guide to begin learning how to draw around here? I admit, the reason why I want to learn how to draw is actually to learn how to animate.

>>3595484
read the sticky firstly. study and practice fundamentals constantly and consistently. If you're interested in animating, check out the animation thread too and lurk about til you've made something you wanna post for critique. It'll be a long ass journey, don't forget that part and try get ahead of yourself.
oh & have fun.

>>3595484
Repeatedly Draw and paint fundamentaly pointless human abstracts untill you can literally bread in space.

>>3595478
That's why I hate this world.
Everyone is forced to go and work somewhere just to be able to live so everyone goes to work and have to watch every instance of their actions out of fear of some woman or fucking nigger getting them fired for saying something that they didn't like.

>>3595490
I read the sticky, but I feel like it doesn't get basic enough for me. I'm really, really shitty at drawing. These lines, circles, and cubes I've been drawing are honestly probably the best I can do, and they're not even that good. Plus, I honestly have no idea how to use SAI or my tablet other than drawing.

>>3595504
I'd personally recommend Keys to Drawing, then. It'll give you valuable information as a complete beginner. There's also Fun with a Pencil. Add .pdf to the end and Google search it for a PDF to read on yo PC (or buy it)

>>3595480
What makes you think there's something wrong with it?

>>3595500
yup

"dress for the job you want, not for the job you have!" - i guess a hobo get-up is a good start for an artist?

you go to school, get thrown into a 20 to 30 people classroom. half of them (if you're lucky) are downright disagreable and you hate them, two or three are best friends. you graduate, get extra qualification and you face the same situation in your job: half of your co-workers are assholes. you hate your job or are indifferent to it. it pays the bills. you can afford a decent flat, you buy a bunch of stuff, you go on holidays once a year, you buy some more stuff, get into relationships on and off. and then, as your body gets weaker, as your hair turns grey and you feel like you've missed out on so much, you are allowed to retire. and then in your retirement, you are probably too weak to travel.

not for me. as an artist, you are an outcast. and that is a good thing. you work lots of odd jobs here and there and you move a lot. we need change and nothing's worse than working the same stupid job for years. the central thing in your life is creating art and being in that zone when you create. i'm fortunate enough to have a summerjob that pays the bills for a bit over half a year. i can do whatever i want after summer is over. but this is not leasure time or a long holiday. i make my art in that time, i travel, i look at the city i live in, i look at other cities, i draw, paint and sculp, whatever is needed.
you don't have to bow to this shit system that turns us into automatons.

>>3595510
because /ic/ never tells me theres nothing wrong with my drawings

>>3595517
So you don't actually see anything wrong with your drawings, not even a slight feeling of it not looking right?

>>3595306
You might have an easier time of drawing yourself if you take a selfie with your phone in actual light, and wearing a shirt that doesn't blend with your hair. Or look in a mirror while you're doing it

>>3595521
i mean i kind of do, but i want /ic/ to tell me to confirm what i already suspect

plez give me crit thanks, anything anatomy, line work etc etc what to do to correct them, maybe give me something to thing to do while Im using the tablet :P fix my fundies yah ;)

>>3595533
maybe you tell what you think is wrong with it, then others can point out other things you missed

>>3595533
Hobo dreamer here, I used to mess this up all the time untill recently I realised that I was not thinking about the pivot angles and joints from the mass shoulder and arms correctly. In your picture she has another elbow, fascinating yet jarring to reasonable human physiology.

>>3594864
This is because your brain understands how to make good art better than your hand right now. Keep drawing, and your hand will catch up, and you'll start to feel better.

>>3595334
Stiff pose, uneven proportions, flat drawing (lack of perspective), shaky/messy lines. Lots of beginner mistakes, have you checked the sticky and used those resources?

>>3595480
You demonstrate a lot more skill in drawing faces than hands. Work on your hands and come back to this.

>>3595555
like anon below you pointed out, the hand/forearm is probably completely fucked. i think there might be some slight issues with how her right side of the face is drawn like the abnormally low cheek bone but thats easy to fix. the hand needs a lot more refinement if not better construction altogether. also, i wasnt really sure what i should do about the further shoulder since it would be hidden behind her hair. did i miss any?
>>3595558
>Hobo dreamer
what does that mean. i guess i could just use design doll to recreate the pose and copy/tweak my drawing as needed
>>3595575
yeah im shoehorning these hands specifically so i can practice. but i should probably do more hand specific studies

>>3594144
Looks like you're drawing the facial features vertically while the head itself is angled to the left. Rotate the canvas such that his head is completely vertical and try again.

>>3595572
Nope, I was told to look at the sticky and post my latest thing to see what others say of it. Thanks, I'm still going through it all.

Okay, I know this is a whiny question and the real answer is to just work hard until it's easier but is there any advice for drawing things you hate? I like drawing people. I like drawing personality. I love every little sexy anatomy curve. Every bone, every muscle. Animals are a less interesting version of that. Backgrounds give atmosphere and context to the people. I can't stand drawing anything mechanical. Trying to learn lately for my projects that need them but drawing cars and mechs bores/frustrates me to tears. I don't get the type that can only draw mechanical things. When I get better will it at least be less frustrating to pour so much time on these kinds of things?

Done on my note 9

>>3595669
Wonder if you can get the same results from a tab s3

>>3595669
That looks good for it being done on a phone.
I was thinking of buying a decent mobile drawing tablet, so I can have better levels of level sensitivity without having to be plonked in a chair sitting at my computer when I want to draw when I'm out and about.

>>3594644
>>3595262
Are these stands?

>>3594781
Been trying to work on loomis heads more. Trying to progress.

>>3595754
Details

>>3595776
make long deliberate lines anon

>>3595776
How did you find the brow line?

>>3595785
I just tried to estimate where it should be from the examples in the book.

>>3594669
Don't listen to the other people who replied to you. Study form and perspective and learn to break down larger complex objects into simple forms. Then you can draw them from any angle.

>>3595787
He explains exactly how to find it if I recall correctly.

Went for a haircut.

>>3595699
What do you mean?

>>3595802
Sorry again for the bad cropping I wish I had a solution if anyone knows the quickest way to format a picture on an iPad.

thoughts?

>>3595609
The artbook thread has links to download a bunch of stuff mentioned in the sticky fyi. Start with Loomis, Perspective Made Easy, and the Vilppu Drawing Manual.

>>3595662
Find the personality, appeal, etc even in mechanical things. Maybe in your spare time draw some cyborgs and see what mechanical parts and shapes stick out to you. Edon Guraizu is one of my favourite industrial designers, pic related.
Appreciation is learned, but it's also a mindset.

>>3595804
gtfo of my board normie!

>>3595822
You did a good job at capturing detail, but the silhouette of the hand isn't convincing. Do you draw the bigger shapes and check how they balance each other before working on detail?

>>3595844
>you did a good job at capturing detail,
thanks
>Do you draw the bigger shapes and check how they balance each other before working on detail?
something like that,
> but the silhouette of the hand isn't convincing

yeah i struggle little bit with "look, hold and draw" and im working with my confident lines
also i use keys of drawing

Just tracing loomis heads from pictures. Feel like I'm getting the hang of where to place what at least.

>>3596066
How should you do minor details in things like this, by the way? Like the more subtle details on the nose or smile-lines on the cheeks around the mouth. I tried to just use lighter colors on that but it still feels way too hard for what it's meant to show.

>>3596066
What's the point of the line half way between the nose- and the brow line?

>>3596072
I just drew that line to sort of show where the bottom of the eye was meant to go.

>started doing Loomis 2 weeks ago
>had fucking 5 or 6 pages of terrible old man drawings
>they vanished
>came downstairs today
>dad is holding a large plastic tube
>pulls a lever on the back of it
>bunch of paper pieces fly out and hit me in the face
>grab one and look
>it is one of my old man drawings
>dad is laughing hard saying he built a 'retardzooka'
>literally fucking ruined all my progress, have nothing to make comparisons with now

>>3596108
fuck you faggot. that was a father and son moment to show you everyone started out bad. if you want to compare something with you future stuff then save now since your shit

>>3596108
Your dad sounds like a massive dick. Cum in his coffee.

First attempt at a perspective drawing. I can already see that the spacing between the letters is really uneven, but any thoughts aside from that?

Moving from sketchbook to digital. Watching Ahmed photo study tutorial helped. What are some good resources for photo studies done digitally?

>>3595776
>>3595785
The middle line (the one that goes through the nose) is supposed to be the brow line. Try moving everything down a bit.

do loomis, do I have to draw these ugly old men?

>>3593485

hey OP, i know are trying to put as little effort as possible into these threads, but please at least link back to the previous post

>>3594265

anon... >>3594103 is cambiaso

>decide to make some art for a game developer who made a game about space ships
>post it
>get like 4 responses, 3 of those people were making fun of it
>actually cry because I've been working so hard for so long and thought I had finally made something I was proud of

>>3596423
lets see

>>3596108
Damn dude, your dad is a scumbag. Sorry to hear that.

>>3596108
Those are practice drawings not the reference. The reference is in the book.

Keep as much of the steps in your mind as you go example to example.

Also dont be discouraged plague of gripes had hugh issues with his parents over drawing as well.

You are not special and you are not alone you and rather than being discouraged by that enjoy it.

>>3593485
I literally just started drawing like two days ago. Did some very basic exercises like drawing straight lines (not pictures) and decided to take a stab at drawing something more complicated than a stick figure.

I don't know if I should start with Loomis or draw a box first, what do you think I should do?

I was really big into art all my life but then just stopped in high school. It's been about 6 years since I've taken an art class or seriously made anything. I want to get back into drawing/painting for fun and creative outlet. What are some easy ways to get inspiration? I used to be pretty good at reproducing work but wasn't too great at making my own stuff.

anyone can recommend me some book for beginners of render and anatomy?

>>3593512
That's a good Ryoko if you put in the right colors, but literally zero personality, as >>3593558 said. Work on giving her a pose that shows she's doing something or make her fatter.

>>3595334
The torso's too long, the chainsaw on the saber is sloppy on teeth and straight lines, and the left hand has no definition.

>>3596533
Anyone can draw a box, the only thing you get is a self esteem boost. Combining geometric shapes into something that resembles a picture is the first real step, and the more you learn about how shapes relate to one another, the faster you learn.

>>3595804
I think he meant Jojo. You know the one with the punching ghosts

>>3596075
I think that's where the eye socket ends

>>3596540
pls rspnd

>>3596585
Start with learning and understanding forms

is this pose too stiff?

>>3596423
Most of the posts like that are troll posts.
Ask them to show what way it should be drawn and watch as they don't post a picture showing how it should be done.

>>3596666
>Ask them to show what way it should be drawn and watch as they don't post a picture showing how it should be done.
they might be troll posts but this is just retard tier argument

>>3596666
up yours, satan.
GO back from whence thee came, from the darkest pit of hell, you vile serpent. Begone, great demon, or i'll smite thee thrice!

>>3596666
i shall smite thee thrice,
with a four by twice.

>>3596666
no one cares what you have to say, beelzebub. you're the great deceiver and you cannot be trusted.

>>3596669
>>3596671
>>3596672
>>3596675
Same fag.

>>3596666
>>3596666
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU

>>3596666
back demon. AWAY WITH YOU.

>>3596662
did you see this and not immediately think stiff?

>>3596695
i should have rather asked, "is it less stiff than usual."
hmmmm....i still have a hard time with "flow" and energy so im trying to do them with "energetic strokes" i guess? and it's like the more detail i put, the more the "energy goes away.

>>3596695
can you make a post to show what way it should of been done?

>>3596699
begone demon, your attempts to hide you evilness is pointless and I see right through your disguise

>>3593904
there's a sticky literally at the start of the thread, why don't you get reading? expecting to get spoonfed all the time isn't gonna take you anywhere.

>>3596699
yes. yes. this'd be excellent, i'll attempt to solve it again on attempt #637
(context: im keeping track of all my "Failures" so i can give show myself and others that may ask 'how long did it take")

>>3596699
I would but all my shit is stiff af too or ignored. so rip. btfo'd myself

doing fun with a pencil, and I can't get these fucking ellipses to look right on a circle, should I keep going until I get them right or just continue with the book

>>3596721
can you legit not draw circles? holy shit.

>>3596728
show me how it's done

>>3596730
use your shoulder

>>3596731
can you show me a circle drawn using your shoulder?

>>3596734

send help

>>3596721
looks rushed. try take it a bit slower, let speed come with time and experience.

>>3596740
Thought you were meant to show circles?
You are no better but the difference between you and him is that he didn't try to make you feel bad about not being able to draw a circle.
His circles more circular than yours where yours are more elliptical.

>>3596762
I just went ahead in the book, I probably need more practice but I doubt I'd be able to get proficient at them fast enough so I thought I might as well get my practice in while drawing these faces

>>3596740
>>3596775

not that anon but you cant be serious. the other dude drew zero fucking circles. he should just chicken scratch and keep making circles till he gets the motion right. this anon's circles are way more circular than the oblong retarded looking whatever the fuck he was trying to do. and he gave him the shoulder tip. if he can't figure it out he should just quit.

>>3596778
Dewd, you are so obvious that you can't hide your troll posts any more.

>>3596775
I wasnt the original anon berating the guy

>>3596781
Someone else trolls /beg/?
Im shitposting since all my shit gets ignored while shit gets ass pats. And hand hurts from drawing so needa rest.

https://i.imgur.com/0NyDhiE.jpg - Poorly drawn yordle asshole, I don't know if I'm allowed to show that here.

This is my first attempt at coloring anything outside of base colors and it took me way too long, I've only ever done base colors once or twice too.

Do I have the absolute basics down?
New Layer - Slap down base colors
New Layer - Shade
New Layer - Lighting
New Layer - Other details
and the just smear the trainwreck together with a tool that can blend
Is that right?

>>3596828
For the most part yes, but you need to get your forms correct first if you want it to look good.
If your shapes are ambiguous and difficult to read you're going to have a hard time applying any sort of lighting.

Also try painting in greyscale to colour, its usually 'easier' to learn and having good values is key to a good painting

>>3596303
no, you cant do whatever faces you want. the details aren't important, just that you understand and can place features on a sphere.

>>3596743
now go over the whole thing with a fineliner to add detail.

how do these look
I'm trying to not copy loomis directly but I still have no idea how he draws his cheeks so I still ended up copying a lot

>>3597008
These don't look bad.

>>3596828
nice
and you can post that here

>>3597008
>but I still have no idea how he draws his cheeks
What there not to understand?

>>3597051
I know it's basically just two balls, but I have no idea how and where to place them

>>3597052
I guess what I'm saying is I know what noses ears eyes and chins and brows look like, but for some reason his cheeks are too stylized for me and I'm lost

Why do people go through painstaking copying every single picture in art books?

>>3597052
There is no precise placement. You just place to lumps where they feel more or less right and then make a face out of it. Different people have different faces so you just draw different people - high cheeks, low cheeks, thick, thin and so on.

Try to do it like in the book - take a colour pencil and draw geometric shapes and then try to transform them into a face with your normal pencil.

>>3596721
Get a plastic see-through ball and sharpie an equator line going up and down all the way around. Then sharpie an equator line going left and right all the way around. Look at how those circles look based on tilt, angle, etc. Draw them if you'd like.

>>3597069
to painstakingly get every bit of knowledge as possible.

>>3597146
By copying?

>>3597223
>>3597223
>>3597223

NEW THREAD

>>3593544
reread the Hampton guide, it doesnt look lke youre following it at all

i know, post its shit is senseless but is the first time what i do this exercise
i'm doing it right?

>>3597387
part 2

>>3595699
I was the first guy that posted the drawing.
Nope. I just wanted to draw a guy mutated and stuck to a ceiling. I was coming up with creature ideas for a DnD campaign

Also
>>3595165
>>3595262
Looks fucking sick. It's cool seeing my ideas done by other people

>>3597388
only do your circles once. and try to get em perfect.
if youre going over them twice, theres no point if they not perfect. youre just duplicating mistakes. you could however use a circle guide then go over those.

How many heads does an average man (around 5"9) have?

I hear it's 7 and a half but that just feels rather off too me. Like, that seems to be the range of someone in the 6" range. Most adults have roughly the same head size so I don't think it scales.

>>3597401
ok, thanks for the feedback

>>3594888
oriko?